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And for a while, I was just kind of floating around. I don't know if it was like, you know, the butt drugs they gave me or whatever it was, but Man, what what a great piece of breaking news. You had a man inside your asshole when you found out. Yeah, I did. I did. fy inside your asshole. Yeah, withith a camera.. We can maybe try to stream it next time. It was u Listen So for anyone who missed it, Balan, who is our striker got a red card in the previous match.' a bullshit red card. Bullshit red card, which let's start with that. So the red card, the People are very upset right now because the Rd card was bullshit. It was yes, he did cleat someone in the back of the leg, but it was also he had nowhere it wasn't intentional And The refs used VAR sllomo, which they shouldn't have been using to give him the red card. So he suspended for our match today against Belgium Until Sunday morning Ish When news came actually credit to Davy Pitch pitch Uh, ourur boss, Dave Portoy said he's he's sensing that a certain red card is going to get rescinded or overturned no, no, not overturned. So The right card stands. Oh yeah, that's right. But the suspension, the one game and we talked about this a little bit on Friday It's a red card, the punishment is you're out for the rest of the game Plus there's one game suspension afterwards. I've always thought that's bullshit Like your team has to play down a man for play downown aan for thirty five minutes. Yeah. And then then they tack on in the World Cup that you get a one game suspension after that. So they suspended The suspension pending his good behavior. It I think it's like a one year thing Wh if he fucks up at all Th thenen we'll go back in time and we'll suspend you against Belgium. Yeah. So he was suspended for our big knockout game on Monday against Belgium today until Sunday morning, when it was suspended, the suspension was suspended. And it seems like all Rads are pointing to our president Donald Trump who maybe got involved didid a little strong arming. And then normally M you know, unassailable FIFA who would never ever Yeah, let anyone strong arm them They did just play an entire tournament in the middle of the desert built by a bunch of slave labor and it was also in the middle of December when the World Cup is never played. neeither here nor there. Balgan is now back And we have a full squad And the tears are incredible the European tears Belgium is lawyering up, which is pathetic by them. You think you're going to beat our lawyers? not only that, That's kind of what we do. Play us on the play us on the fucking pitch, dude. Play us on the pitch eleven on eleven. We're not doing any backroom deals or any strong arms. Eough of this this courtroom football In America, we don't deal with judges and injunctions and lawyers when it comes to our football. No. we go out on the pitch and we just let the grass talk. let me be let's just be real crystal clear What we're talking about when we're talking about Corruption. because in this case It was a blatantly incorrect call That was called incorrectly has not been overturned but suspended And It's the smallest piece of justice that the United States could ever get from FIFA goingo back over the years, the travesties The game against the handball on the line against Germany in two thousand two The mystery fal again in Slovenia in twenty ten. gone in two thousand Listen, the United States has never benefited from FIFas corruption before and it feels like we've been left out of that party. If this is our taste of the corruption And all the corruption is is just overturning a suspension that should never have been given in the first place. who, by the way, one footnote in this is kind of crazy The VAR official's name is Wuan Soto. Oh, the guy that buzzed down referee is literally Wan Soto. Interesting. And so he got on the horn with a Brazilian ref who's been under investigation in his own league in Brazil over the years that gu just known as being a bad ref. So okay, if it's corrupt We have our striker back. for a foul that yes, and probably a yellow card Doesn't matter if it was intentional or not, but it was not reckless. It was not He did not go in recklessly. It should never been a red card to begin with If that's absolutely. If that did not use reckless. If that is corruption then I guess I'm glad to be getting my first taste of corruption from FIFA because it seems like everybody else in the world has benefit from FF at some point except for me. So people will argue against some of the points you said that the mistakes that were made on the field were made on the field. This was all off the field afterwards, which I agree like the the red card It shouldn have been a red card to begin with and they illegally use VAR Uh VAR, by the way It just you I thought that the one year that we did pass interference Instant replay was bad. The VAR is just it just slows everything down. It's just fucking crazy. So I u ye, I apologize to absolutely nobody. I don't give a fuck. This is awesome Did corruption potentially benefit us? Yes Is that sick when that happens to your sports teams Also yes. that's what I'm saying I kind of want to apologize to any Texas tech fan that was getting grief This is because Listen. This rules are like, yeah, the Alabama judge that that let an NBA player come back to school for a little bit. It is It is good when it benefits. It feels good. That's what I'm saying is like this go against me before so many times a FIFA. It's good to feel just it's nice to win. This must be one of it feel should to be a Chief's fan. Yeah, exact. sick. Yeah, it feels awesome. So the timing on the suspension being suspended is even wilder because They probably could have done all this last week inststead, Belgium just practicice for a week like they werere going to go up against the United States would probably Dicic. playing a false nine or Uh maybe Go. but like a completely different formation altogether. And then now we get our true striker back And so now the formation that they just practiced against probably not going to be what they're going to be facing on Monday. It is a little funny though that And I'm so happy the Balgans' back and he's a very important part of the U.S men's national team They are treating him like messing. Like the Belgium is so scared to play him. It's like dude. Don't be such cowards fucking play him. It is Yeah Balan's got the probably got the best ego boost ever right now. The fact that the entire continent of Europe is now banding together because they're scared of this one guy Wh's whose mom was was too pregnant to fly. Right. So I think if we're doing like who gets the credit for this being overturned, I would say fifty percent goes to FIFA. for doing the right thing twenty five percent probably goes to Donald Trump for picking up the phone to try to impress his son Be being like Baron, I got your favorite player back And then twenty five percent goes to everyone on social media that retweeted the side by side graphic of Balligan with Messy stepping on the back of that guy's leg and being like this was a red card. This was absolutely nothing I think FIFA I do think that FIFA saw the memes. You think this might be the first Me overturned Rd card suspension in the history of profess of the World Cup. And we've got memes. I've been following along all these people like being very upset about it. I actually have a few there I wanted to read. Also a little credit to Davy Pitch for being the first to have the breaking news. You did report it He did get the ball rolling down down the pitch. Uh the What happened with did Ronaldo have a couple red cards going into this tournament Yeah, so we got a he did have a suspension going into the first game or he might have even been suspended for the first two games. Yeah because we've got the World Cup But then those were that suspension was suspended. Yeah, we've got we've got the memes like the meme Warriors. Thankk you for your service, mee wararriors. Every single one of these tweets of people crying I've just seen the What about these? And it's just all of the suspended suspensions. Now it doesn't happen for a red card that you got in the World Cup. that's never been like overturned for the suspension to be suspended for a red card that was earned during an actual FIFA World Cup game. It's just like qualifying games or the international friendlies that U the fair play rules have kicked in for. So you see those lists? Yeah, Ronaldo was suspended for the first three game or two games of this World Cup under the under the old rule, but under the new rule where it's good to have your superstars playing in the World Cup So more people watch it on TV FfFa stepped in and said, Hey, we got to getid this. Yeah. All right, so I just realized I got blocked by, oh, this is sad. It's a British fan who lives in Chicago, Cub Rachel Baseball fan Uh, she called us Bllocks. No very mean. B US. have utterly fucked it there. An respect they could have gained from performing well at this World Cup Roon. by the corruption of this Ballan nonsense, proper corrupt bollocks. I'll say this right now. I still respect our team and our country. I respect a good use of proper corrupt bollocks. Piers Morgan said, imagine if another government and world leader did this to disadvantage the U.S My response to him was simple. We would literally just sit in our air conditionedom houses and apartments and probably play college football twenty seven. I actually think that Pers Morgan, it takes a lot of nerves for Pers to say that. Yeah. like the US has been Pper ball ext at these World Cuubps. time and time again And we I think we said on this show, Meems and I were trying to find the conversation that we had. we Anyone that understands how FIFA operates. cororrect and how our government operates, knew that this was prime to be the matchman have the most controversial like underground cloak and dagger World Cup built off weird negotiations. and and and tit for tat bribery. It was like it was it was always going to be like that. Now that's not saying Again, I would just want to go back to say that even that Even though that it was a controversy that we had the suspension suspended He should never have been suspended in the first place and he's a good guy and a good player all intents and purposes is just like a you know, exemplary dude on the pitch. So it's not like He's out there injuring people intentionally All we're getting is just our best players to be able to play in a game. That's Yeah. We're not we're not asking for the world here. Yeah. our government and FIFA caught eyes at the bar and they're like, who It was always going to be like from this is hot from this is hot fromrom the group stage drawing to to this Yeah. This is from Max Scott. Any US. fans bragging about this are complicit in U.S. state interference in the beautiful game, a disgraceful dark day for football. I'm going brag this Listen, I'm gonna brag about this. This is awesome. This is awesome. It's awesome. Tournaments at all H this not been the best World Cup ever? Yeah. That's the America effect We did that We made this in Mexico and Canada. Yeah a little bit America. Canada's havenving Yeahah, I mean, Canada. Well, I mean, we're the last ones remaining over Yeah of the of the come Conkcaf. Yeah, no, come Canada, United States of America and Mexico. Yeah, all gotten to the knockout stage. So I do want to give some some time to say what Belgium's head coach Rudy Garcia said.. I think we have to hear both sides. He said, I didn't know that at the World Cup, the fifth of July is actually the first of April. It's April Fools That's a pretty sick burn. That is you have to admit like, okay All right. Trump might have met his match on this one. What else you say? We're not defending the national team or Federation. We are defending football. and integrity. Yeah Okay Dudeud' so it's so good being in being on this side of it for once just getting to laugh about it all Zach, it feels great. It just doesn't make much sense how everyone who's also been benefited in the past from similar If we're going to use the corruption word They just forget all of it ever happened and they're like, how dare you disrespect this graceful untainted game? It's like, well That's just not the case. We had thousands of people that died as slaves building stadiums in one hundred and twenty five degree weather in the middle of a desert that's never going to be used. in the rest of the history of the world. And again, they moved the entire tournament to a time that it's never played Yeah, just for just for the money. And before that It was Putin's World Cup. Yeah. and then Not next time, but the time after that, it's going to be Saudi Arabia's world. Correct. The here's another one. this one made me laugh. Alfie Shadow Alfi said this makes a mockery of the whole tournament. If the U.S. men's national team win, Belgium will have every right to feel cheated. Meanwhile, the USA's victory by their best ever generation of players will forever be tainted by accusations of favoritism and corruption. It's bad for everyone.ong. I'm not I'm not going to put I refuse to put an asteroisk on this. Also What what what world are we? like? Why is Belgium feeling cheated? He's not again, he is he's a good player. He's an important player like he's not the best player in the tournament If you are Belgium, if listen listen me Belgium real quick. if you're If you're a man You want to be you want to play the best. If you want to beat the best, you got to play the best. here if you want to be the best, you got to beat the best. What What is this crying about? Oh, it's not fair. You guys were going to get the favoritism And and and the corruption going your way Now you're upset that it's going the other way. Like what the fuck? They use VAR illegally It was not a red card. and it wasn't a red card. It was a terrible call at the time. It's a terrible call after Ts. Okay. now FT We have to win this game. Now we got to win it because no we have the entire world Pying on our downfall. Yeah. I will have a tweet ready that shows that I'm hacked mayaybe by like a Indian money crypto guy. But still, we got to win this game. They want us to lose so, so badly We have to win this game and preferably win this game with Balgan scoring Five goals. I need two braces out of them. A double brace. Five goals would be set. four sc. Yeah, I think that Well, first of all, we need Portugal to win We need Portugal to beat Spain. Okaykay? And then Shout out. I can't go I can' to go for Ronalo. He's my go now for I just said that we for one day if we want to be the best, we got to beat the best. He's one day he's not the best. Oh Ronaldo' a goat. So we have I want to the opportunity to take out the best Ronaldo. You mean Penaldo? Yeah goal. you got best have to firstirst knockout goal ever. I don't want reer Like Spain Spain's not a good soccer team. They don't know want to play Soccer in Spain, Portugal, they are the true kings of the Iberian peninsula. I need Portugal to win. I'm not worried about that game. And then then we have to take care of business against Belgium. You got to just play the you got to play the team in front of you and then listen, if we beat Belgium, let's say Spain wins we'll just get Spain's best playerers suspect. I'm okay with that. I'll just keep doing this. I don't care set the trend. Someone put it perfectly. a Michigan fan was like, I brag about Michigan's national championship every day of my life There's no asterisks. And this also like if we We're getting way ahead of ourselves justust win Monday There will be no asteriskss in my mind. No, absolutely not It will be full brags. And if we had lost without Baligan Asterk city. Oh the most Yeah Belgium. It's very funny that like, I don't I don't think they like Soccer, Twitter and soccer online culture is very funny and they have incredible memes and it's been very funny to watch. but In terms of the journalists that I've been reading I don't think they're fully ready for like how we can twist the rules and not care. No. They don't, they're not ready for that No long And They're not ready for us like we can be in mees. I I got I got deep into the ugly underbelly of the censorships that they're putting inside the soccer balls after those games on Friday. Um, I think that was the, uh that was Croatia Portugal, right where they had the little graft that showed up for the first time. I'd never seen that during a soccer game before But they've got the chip in the ball now And the sensor tells you It's supposed to be like, whenever even like A piece of hair touches the ball You get like a little reading on it So they use that to call a guy on Croatia off sides took away a goal that sucked.ort Portugal ended up winning that game And I am convinced that they just stole this goal from Portu. I've become convinced now that the bump that they have on it right there is actually the header that takes place right after and that the sensor wasn't synced up correctly with all the cameras. Right. And I read like all these scientific papers. I have no idea. what I'm seeing. But I did hear that the guy in Croatia said it might have hit my hair. And then in the FIFA rule book There's a part that says Hir is not considered for an offsides call in this circumstance. This this exact circumstance. All I took from what you just said is for the rest of the world Be be ready. okay? becausecause what PFT just proved There's nothing more dangerous than when we start to read When we are like, hey, we're going to read some shit We're going to read up on these things You got problems because we don't read as a country. But when we do Oh boy, watch out. we don't re books but I will read Dozens of posts. Oh. All platforms. Except when it says show more, I usually don't read it. But I still read the post. Yeah, I'll read the start of it. I read the post and then I'll click if it's like really long and there's a bunch of different paragraphs, I'll just skip to the replies and then I'll hope that somebody in the replies has distilled what was said in the original post into like a picture. You know what I'll do? is I'll bookmark it And I'll come back to it. at like midnight when I'm trying to fall asleep and I'll read half of it and fall asleep to it That's how much I e. But I'm so deep into this chip in the ball thing I've become convinced that it's all bullshit But did the sensors Yes they're there and yes, they pick up on stuff But there is no chance that it is perfectly ligned with the fifty cameras that are running concurrently in the stadium on live TV at any given time. That also is. so let's talk about some of the other games. The Croatia Portugal game was incredible. likeike some a lot of these games have just been so much fun to watch because you get a team down and the the pressure they're putting on it and Croatia was just like kept on knocking at the door That was bullshit just by the fact that the It hitting his head, maybe even is the hair of his head I know it's the letter of the law, but like that How can we not say, hey, look, he's not like It didn't actually change the trajectory of the ball at all. And like, okay, the guys like that didn't that's what I'm saying That should just be like, hey, that was a sick goal to end the game and it wasn't truly off sides. let's fucking count it and go to extra time. So that's what I'm saying is by the letter of the law, if it hits your hair, that doesn't count. Yeah, you're right. It does like that should that should have been an all lowed goal there's a like a specific rule It says that in the rule book that if it hits the hair that does not count towards offside. So it should count I actually, you know what? I want to see what Hank says about the ballan suspension Do you think he's happy Definitely. Where's Hank Mmes Where is Hank mean? I don't know. I've been asking that all day. Yeah where? Where's Hank? Do you think he's happy? He's probably happy. I think he might be upset. He's got to be No, I mean well, he doesn't like the US. The other great game was Cape Verde versus Argentina, which was There's some games of the World Cup where it's like, hey this team is going to park the bus. Kape Feraday was just going for it. Yeah like to a detriment of themselves where They're like fuck it, we're just gonna to keep trying U That was an incredible game The Mexico England game was insane. I feel like there was a hundred moments in that game that were just Awesome Uh, you know whatough Brazil lost. Have you ever seen how they used to do penalties Like in the MLS. Well ye came out they had a Yeah when they ran They a completely different penalty shot where they give you the ball at midfield is XFL shit. Yeah. and they'd say okay, it's one on one, you in the goalie just go for it And then they change it, I think after like one season ese guys would get just like smashed too. Yeah. I actually like They should not do this for a shootout, but For a penalty, it's awesome. Yeah. This is a great penalty shot. Do way you gonna to call Hank? Yeah I'll give a call.ive call give Hank a call. see what he says. But yeah, these games supp. It been insane. What's been your favorite game? Today my favor game is watching Holland playay Hey hank is It's PFT commenter from P part of My Take sports podcast. You're live to tape on P part of My Take We wanted to get your reaction to Balligan's suspension being suspended It's great It's great for the country G great for the team. I'm excited to see him play. I'm excited I'm excited he's back. P like it on Yellow once again You don't see you say you're excited, but your voice doesn't sound excited. You you okay Yeah. No, I'm good. I'm, u I'm trying to figure out how if I'm going to get to Tahoe Oh Oh I didn't know that. You you stuck in New York No, I've been texting you guys like the whole way you've been responding. I didn't know that for sure. Oh shit. I I know that I forgot S commentary. that I did know that. This stuff kind of piles up. Do you think Max was a little bit of a bridezilla? No What do you mean? Ely. We're just joking. Well good luck, Hank. Hank, we did the Mount Rushmore of Weapons for today's show. Wait but don't say anything because it's coming up. It's coming up. Yeah. What would your honorary pick be I don't know I have to think. Okay.z Ozy. Okay, nice, nice Nice. All right. Hank hank, Hank You are you going You said you're going to maybe not get out arere you going to miss the game in a while P Probably in the air. Oh, okay. Okay. But you'll probably be able to watch it on the plane, huh You'll definitely watch on the plane. I don't have a plane booked right now. so we'll see But you're not going to sleep on the plane, right? You're going to watch the game any type of answer Do you know where Beli? C couldould you point out Belgium on a map Probably not near Germany. Okay ye Yeah that actually actually yes, thatailed that. you nailed that Okay. All right, hey, thank you. Thanks, Hank. All right. seeee ya, bye. Yeah, no, he crushed that. Yeah, right near Germany. Yeah right there. R heard of It's in that Maginal line. He's on he's on he's on the block He's got it man No so mad. Dam you' fucking mad, dude Yeah, listen, Belgium, just play us. That's all we're asking. We're We're not asking for any special favors. just play us head to head in soccer Right And stop stop bitching and moaning But gettingetting lawyers disgusting This is what happened on the game we love. I just put our best eleven Your best eleven. Yeah. and we'll see what happens. So the other games, Holland is incredible. That was an incredible performance beating Brazil U Norway on to the next round. Brazil just they stink now Yeah. I mean, they have not uh They've not been good for the last several World Cups. Nymor I didn't realize had never played in a game past the quarterfinals. Yeah. Now one year was because he did break his b during the World Cup But I was shocked to hear that I just assumed that Like every other Brazilian player, they'd played in the semifinals before Brazil just looked sad. They were like Norway was the better team. Yeah. and the Ho Brazil had some Brazil blew it. They had probablyably three to four chances that were like, how do you They missed a penalty then they missed that like basically wide open goal Brazil should have actually won. they just let him hang around long enough that they didn't, Like they had some incredible chances that they fucked up bad. I guess I just judge Brazil on a different scale Be it hu because Holland and Norway Overall, looked like they were the more cohesive team Brazil they they play like a very sad form of soccer now. but they had which I don't like if you watch Brail chances. You got to watch Brazil doing the samba soccer shit. the Hogo bonito they're not, they don't Hogo bonito anymore. Brazil might not be Brazil anymore. They're not They had some chances yet. No they so the last five World Cups They've lost to France, Netherlands, Germany, Belgium six, Croatia and Norway Hmm And this also made me laugh u from no Escalator G great Twitter account. He he said, so you're telling me that Brazil won five titles many long ago. L made the title game in two thousand two and since has largely starred in cartoonish losses. is Brazil, Indiana basketball They might be. Yeah. they might be Yeah, Brazil. out Uh what other what other big I mean, congrats Ronaldo. you You had a you had a moment where you thought that that Messi was going to lose Cape Verday. And I we didn't text during that game I knew what you were thinking while you were watching it. I think a large part of the world thought there was a moment where Mess was going to lose to Cape Vird. You were so excited Not excited. I text you right after. I was like notot today Zach. In a vacuum, all bias aside The underdog story that was They win that game man is unbelievable and it is painstaking because you show Right after the last goal, he runs up Mets with the family. It's all smiles. I love you. This is for country. I don't think they should have panned back to the same section after the loss. I don't like when they do that. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was a tough way to go out. They were When it went to to extra time, it was like And they got scored against Everyone was like, okay, this game's over. Argentina might score two more an extra time. And then they come back down the field and just fire that fucking laser beam into the far post That was it was such a cool moment. I'm bummed for Cape Verde because they they were right there through the end and they did it by not playing scared. likeike they were They were on the front foot for most of that game Um So that I mean, that's these games are so awesome. That's why this is the best tournament in sports. like the World Cup when it's in your time zone and you can watch it at the time that that God meant you to watch sports There's no better tournament in the world than this. Yeah. it's been so, so much fun So much fun. Like I said, I was I I know The way I judge it is that what was it Saturday or no, it's today on Sunday The first game Brazil, I think they kicked off at three o'clock central time. Around noon, I was like, whereere's my W Cup game I was kind of I was like, what do you mean? there's a World Cup game right now? I need my World Cup game. I need my six So I'm fully addicted and yeah, it's going to be I think I think Wednesday is the first day. we don't have any games. That's going to be a tough And it's going to be a real Double check that because that's going to really suck if that's the case. That's a harsh reality right there. Wednesday. Oh no. Wednesday Oh yes. Oh shit. Nothing Wednesday. Nothing Wednesday. and then we're on to like one game a day. When's the all star break for baseball? couple weeks. Okay. nextext week, actually. nextext week. All right, so we will have baseball on Wednesday Yes, we love baseball on Wednesday. speaking of all let me do Draftfs and we'll talk some other sports and do who's backack Draft Kings, we're talking about The cuop. and winter go home. That's it. The cup knockout round is now and draft Kings has you covered for every single match. The Draft Kings app is now available in all fifty states It includes all markets Bring the game straight to your fingertips wherever you are from Florida to Texas to California You're in on the excitement at the speed of sports. M I'm actually going we're going to be in California. So we're going to try out the predictions market in California this week in Tahoe. 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Trade to get fifty dollars in predictions dollars that expire in one year. issued every seven days via click to cllaim for twenty one days. One non withdrawable reward redeemable. Predictions offer void in New York. ends july nineteenth. Terms at decKNG dot co slash audio U Do we have any So the All Star games have been announced Mes means in She. Shan's in the booth. Shane, were there any big snubs for the all Star games that you were upset about? No, I didn't even see the rosters yet. Okay, great Sooto starter Yeah, that was that was crazy. I know. PCA, not a starter. which I know he had a bad month, but he also had the best month like ever Um But listen you can't get. I don't know. Allar game like, do you really get that upset You shouldn't? No And I was like, I think Max Max was upset last year And I think I was like mildly upset about Sa, but I don't think It's tough to it's tough to be like really upset Do they say half the guys leave halfway through the Is it what the percentage of the fan vote is? I don't know. I'm just hoping that we get the home run, we get the home run Derby again, you know, the shootout and Schwarber does it in front of his home crowd, which would be sick. That would rock if they did the swing off. Yeah. Yeah, the guys was building swwing off was incredible U And then the home run Derby is also going to be better, right? Yeah notot perfectly fixed, but better better because they're going back to the outs It's gonna be better. Or it just swings? I think it's u I think it's I can't remember.hane's gonna to look it up. Yeah. Shane,? What are we looking up here? We're on this We're so sorry, I was I was looking at how Aaron Judgees is on the rosts. Yeah, that one's weird What were I looking at? I'm sorry. That one makes. What is the format officially of the homeome runun Derby this year? Is it swings I think it's back to out. No, I think it swings. Look it out. good management memes. I think it's if it's just out, that's a good way to do it. That say something. Oh no, also the fan vote is fifty percent of was say. fifty percent goes. That's a lot of fan vote, Yeah.Quite a bit of fans. You respect The fans should not have that much power. That's a lot of power for the seats They'll dis spepect to the fans Do you remember old school when you had to fill out the punchout card? That was c Yep, that was awesome That was awesome. You mailing those in? I think they actually might still have those I actually don't know U Do mine a grocery store. Did you find it? Yeah Shane? Yes, it says instead of trying to hit as many homers as you can during time rounds, participants will start each round with me head wings mees saave them. No, I just don't like the I just don't like the rules. I say it again swings. So each round, you get a certain number of swings. I like down you get twenty round two you get fifteen And meeting again in the final round. Why don't you like that me? More home runs. I feel like this I get it. But remember when it became The last few years, it became you didn't even get to see the home run because the ball wouldn' even land before they were hit the next one. Right. That's why it's it's good, but it's not everythingthing it should be it's better. But we can do even better Yeah Maor Lague base and they get like tired I like I don't like putting caps on home rununs. That's why I like the outs So you can just keep hitting dingers until until you're exhausted. So in this one. it's like, no matter what, okay, you get twenty swings in the first round And so you if your last five swings or home runs You're still donum. still stop you. I don't like that We're going to talk a lot with Wendy about MBA for agency, but LeBron's decision is looming H I think it's gonna be cleed. Do you guys agree? I think you're probably right. Can you play winter golf outside in Cleveland O is the way too I don't know, man. Well Rich Paul said it said can't all play around outside golf, right? O in O indoor Indoor He said indoor as well. Fair? Yeah, I don't know You think where iss he going? U I just think he goes somewhere where it's it's nice out year round Maybe Miami Yeah's going back to M aboutout nine months ago the Bron were the LeBron nine elites, South beaches for the first time in like Maybe six years Miami, Corway E ever since said I was like, always connect the dots. He's going to finish out Miami You s think about Thinking about it right now. No validity, but just something. I'm thinking about it hard. I hate it. L I mean, Miami wouldn't be the worst The warriors would be the worst. don't we don't want him to go back to Miami. No, I don't want him to. I mean, I think he's got to go to Cleveland. I think that makes the most sense. Is he happy he's in Cleveland Y's home, sure. you're right And and look, they're traveling a lot. likeike how much golf is he going to do during the I feel like LeBron's not good enough to be golfing every day during the season. Well not doesn't matter if you're good enough. He just got the bug. He's got He's got the bug and I was saying that there's probably a fifty percent chance he saw a Mad dog get hit in the vagina with a golf ball Youd probably watch it, you'd probably just chuck a bookmark that You think so I mean, I think it's in his algorithm. I think he's just got everywhere. He's got the old Golf out G algorithm. All right. Anything else National spports podcast before do who's back Reminder we're going to Tahoe this week We will be in Tahoe, Max and Hank will be back. there' They're in transit. It sounds like Hank's got some money Travel issues we didn't know about Yeah, it's kind of a shock, but sucks for him. At least he's going to watch in the air. I miss our boys. It's going to be fun. show weeks going to be awesome. We' got some great interviews lined up We had some great content lined up. So it's gonna it's going gonna to be awesome. All right, let's do who's back of the week and then we'll get to our Mount Rush M of Weapons and then Windy Who's back of the week I mentioned earlier, twisted tea summers here, twwisted tea summer party pack The twisted lemonade is so, so good. I have one over the weekend I also can't tell you the half and half is my absolute favorite. It's so good. And the original. The original Tist is incredible as well. So it's summer. 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Well, my who's back of the week is Mitchell Robinson because he's signed with the Celtics. so memes, what are What are your comments about Mitchell Robinson being on the Celtics U I don't want to pull a LeBron, but I kind of figured he was going to go to the Celtics just because he does fitf perfectly. with how they play, which is what live by the three, die by the three And if you die by the three, Mitchell Robinson gives you the opportunity to get second and third chances, just non stop. so he's just going to get it and pass back out Al So turns out he punched his truck. He punched his truck. As he was a family member had gotten into an accident. he was upset hit his truck You should see the truck. Yeah. it actually rocks, the truck is awesome. They're all so good. I know how much he loves his truck. He would have to be very upset to ever hit his truck. Yeah He do you think he apologize to the truck after? Yeah Nutal combat. It's all good Did you have another one or? Yeah True love. Yeah. True love is who's back because we had we had Travis and Taylor getting married at at MSG and Max and Max also got married for the third time And it seemed everybody got invited to the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey wedding Dean Blndino was on the guest list. thousandousand. It made me laugh so hard. like Dean just showing up I can't well, let me first say, you got to in this line of business Put your hand up when you're wrong I'm going to say I was wrong U I do think they actually are dating now A Don't need the P andV They got married. So I'm going to count it. I'm going put on the board. R on F. Yep. I'm going to see it. saw finger. Y H It's crazy they actually did the whole wedding at MSA. It's also crazy to invite a thousand people to Yeah Like a thousand person guest list There's so many people that you must not actually know that get invited to your wedding. and that's kind of weird. There's no way to know five hundred people. There's no way in hell you know a thousand people. How How mad are you if if you played even a snap in the NFL and you didn' get invited, you gott to be like, what the fuck happened to me? my chopped liver? Yeah I don't know. if you asked me to like, Name a thousand people that I've met I don't think I could sit down and do that list. Wait, zoom in. let's see this Okay, so this is the some of the someome of the attendees. Adam Sandler was the officent would that is that part awesome. good job T Very cool. I'm assuming that was Travis's choice. That's very cool Okay.m let's all pick someone out of here Uh, o the Dixie Chicks We're there. Aren't they just the chicks? J Jw Smith was there Jels Yeah. Paisley Keizu is there U Cal Yck Yeah, full backack That's huge. George Kittdle Geor I mean, yeah the TE, I think Greg Olson was there as well. chain smokers were big chain smokers guys. He yeah. U, Wayne Gretsky, the great one Yeah, there's no John L loveve it I made that one Oh. was Pet middler We should just Seth Myers, okay Good for all these people O attacky a Friday wedding Friday weddings are okay now you get. Listen, if you If you are looking at a big ticket venue like MSG probably save you like two hundred and fifty grand going Friday as opposed to Saturday Can I canan I say something without getting in trouble with the Swifties? Absolutely not. It's it's something that I saw. I did not I did not come up with this. I saw it. I saw someone make this point And I want them to be married for a very long time. I hope that it's forever and forever some and I actually think this is a fair game because Part of the allure of Taylor Swift is she does the numerology and the secret codes everywhere and all this stuff and it's like peopleople love doing this finding findinding what everything means Someone did point out that she might have had her wedding on july third so that if they ever do get divorced, she'll just release an album and call it Independence Day That would to go hard. Yeah I did not come up with that I did not come up with that. It crossed my eyes. Yeah I think they're going to make it. I think they're going to be married for very long time I think it was a magical whver. been marri forever. But get married forever. They turn into a castle inside of MS Is that tr I think so. I think they built it out into something crazy. Oh, that is coolz. And then there were people that were freaking out just waiting outside And then the cops brought them like donoughnuts, which is kind of ironic, but they hand them These donuts. I think they said that they're like from inside people that were just waiting freaked the fuck out 'ause they were like, it's kind of like we got invited to their wedding because they're they're throwing food at us. Yeah. And those were just regular Probably regular completely L street donoughuts. Yeah. there's they did also donate twenty six million dollars to local charities, which is very cool. W you mentioned that? That is good to say Zach. That is good. That's a ton of money. That That's a beautiful. If there's a thousand people at a wedding, you got one shot in D'ouvreay, right Oh it comes around once. you gotta just likeike sweep it onto the plate or A thousand people. You get more one ne ball but but okay. Think about it, that's like glass half empty because I think all of us here Uh, well, maybe maybe I'm just speaking for myself just kind of camp out right where the the servers come out of Imagine camping out outside of where the service comrounded for a thousand people The mass quantity of appveretisers that you can get yourself into. Holy shit. That might be traffic jam over situation. would be incredible. Do think they went open bar? or do you think they No, it's definitely like it's probably like No it's probably like coupons for two Yeah to drink t Soft pretzel. Probably have to wait in line at the like littleittle kiosks that they have set up there. Do think they had a feer guy? Do think they had a fifty fifty Maybe fifty fif I would be sick. May then I'd be all in on this. Maybe the beer guy and the hot dog guy that that's walking up and down the aisle How out of place would we feel if we were at that way I mean I felt really out of place at the dog show at MSG. so I'd imagine I would feel Extremely unwelcome at. Well, it's funny because we saw like I saw these people get in get invited that we knew we know a bunch of them, but I feel like we know not them. that side of them. You know what I mean? When I see like Greg Olsen all u, you know, suited up and looking nice and cool hat and Greg and George Kiddle looking the same way and like, you know, Edelman always looks hot. It's like I I know them when they're like fucking around with us. They don't We're the friends they don't want to tell anyone else about. It's like they're at work right now. Yeah. and they do this. Yeah But good for them. Congrats. Love is back. Love us back. Paul McCartney, saying I want to hold your hand for the first time since like nineteen sixty five. That's pretty cool. That's kind of. That's a fllex. Yeah, it's a pretty big. That's a fucking awesome fllex. Yeah Okay Well love us back U All right my who's back of the week is dude' rocking because well I got two of them. I got two dudes. one Our go Joe Chestnine, eighteen out of nineteen sixty six hot dogs It was super hot. It was like ninety two degrees at Coney Island Uh, he was Just he's just a man amongst boys. Can't be stopped. He's what was second place this year? I think Bertdletti had fifty, which I feel bad for him because he is really, really good. Any other era. Yeah. people would be saying this is the greatest eater of all time. It It's brutal. Just Jooy Chesa comes just kills everyone And it still shocks me. I cheated this during the competition but because ten years ago, I was in it and I was aroundround George Heson. We've met him a couple times and hung out with him a couple of times He does he eats sixty six hot dogs A Coney Island in ninety two degree heat He goes home, takes a nap and then just goes and gets fucked up all night. likeike drinks twenty drinks. Yeah. I don't know how he does it. It's his one man championship parade every year. He's an absolute beast of a man. And then so Dude's rock number one was Joy Chestnut. Dude's Rck number two was the story about the missing England fan who was accidentally found in a bar in Spain. Yeah two weeks later. So This is an unbelievable story. There's a guy is England fan who Left England, Michael Hewitt, sixty five. It looks a little bit like an old Sean McVeigh. Oh. Yeah. I'd have to see his shirt off to to tell if it was actually Sean Mc. Yeah, but just like, you know, over the hill, Sean. Yeah Uh, so He left he left England to go to the World Cup. He was going through Spain He lost his passport and his phone. at the airport in Spain just started going to the pub every day and getting fucked up Meanwhile, his whole family was looking for him thought he died because they thought he would went to the U.S. Turns out he was never going to the US unless he had a ticket. So he was just sitting in a pub in in in Spain lookingking at tickets being like, maybe I'll go, maybe I won't until an off duty police officer saw me as a Leeds United fan. They did the Leeds salute and then the off duty police officers like, Hey, wait a second. I like your family's been looking for you for two weeks. He had no idea. He was just having the best time of his life Barcelona will do that to you. That would be a great place to just kind of lay low for a while. Yeah He was posting pictures while he was getting fucked up in the pub. Yeah. He had his he did have his passwordort sorry. he lost his phone. He said Mick had lost his phone soon after arriving in the Spanish city. He was blissfully unaware of the desperate appeals to find him His brother Gary said he had it because he still had his wallet and passport. He saw no reason to go to the embassy or let us know. So basically what happened was He was posting pictures from this bar. So it's not like he was no out of contact with everyone. He would he just he was in contact with the internet. Yeah, not with his family. And this is honestly like this is the European equivalent of getting a vasectomy at the startort of March Madness. Yeah, Where it's like I'm going I'm going to chill out for a while and just watch basketball. This guy's like I'm stuck in Barcelona I'm just going to get fucked up and watch soccer every day. It's crazy. He even he's so obsessed with soccer in England. They his brother called him was like, Hey, we booked you a flight to come home Be we all thought you were dead And he's like, I can't fly home on that day England place. Like what if I get M he doesn't want to be a hank. in the in the air when his teams play. We should if this guy gets to the World Cup final, he should he should come to America. Yeah. Yeah, What an awesome. He's just been hanging out getting fucked up Zach who's back in the week this week is going to be Erling Holland because early Holland showed all of us that when he's not preparing for the World Cup, he' just like the rest of us. He's a dude's dude He let us know that his favorite thing to do outside of soccer is get together with the boys at home throughr a low lamb party Do you guys see the land party No, I hadd not seeen the land party No. land party So you guys familiar with land parties? I am yeah. it's a land party. Land party is just when You guys come have a sleep at my house and you both bring your own Xbox Oh hell yes. He's like this is what me and boys like to do. He's got the Xbox mini fridge there. Wait, so this is just they're playing Xbox next to you. Yes. Everybody's got their own TV and their own game and they just playing like however many guys So you're playing the same game, either co op or get other But you're all incosed system connected to each other. It's masturbation, not sex.'s a ccle jer. It's a circle jerk. Yeah, but for gaming And then he said top three is Minecraft GT and call duty. Just when you feel like some of these guys on TV doing miraculous things aren't Just like you and me, they remind you, hey a regular du That about a game. That is awesome Good for you. Gamererss hot. I read that he is a big raw milk guy Yeses, raw milk And his alarm, Zach. You know what his alarm is on his phone? I'm not familiar. It's the Champions League theme song wakes him up every morning I' might home pivot. You might maybe pivot, yeah You think you could wake up for that Or maybe round may too soft, but maybe I change some of the decibels. never know. I' you be nerous about a flight tomorow I think about anytime we travel, you sir if we're talking about it Do you have another whose backack? Other whoses back of the week to pivot off the hot dog com test a little bit was a Badman's Chus because he took down that gy and eliminated twenty seconds. That's crazy. We should get Deutsche in that I bet your George could probably beat him. I think it was like twenty two. ween one, mayaybe it was the exact time, but It Badlands Booker? Yeah, Badlands Booker, yeah. Yeah. Beast U Anthing we miss from the booth? Jaden Daniels. Oh, young. What about them beefing with his new receiver No, the the Washington commanders have released Brandon Nuk. today from the contract that he didn't sign with us and was never going to sign. Yeah. things got kind of weird over the weekend So Ayuk was saying like talking shit about Jaden's mom, I guess And then they unfollow each other And then Jaden posts a picture of a Like Kevin Durant giving the birds So I think that should probably put an end to the Brandon and I Yuke to the commommander's rumors, I was never really on board for It's been weird for quite some time. Yeah I hope he gets whatever help he needs doesn't seem like he's in a good space Mentally And it seems like even his best oldest friends I've tried to help them And he just burns those bridges too. So I hope I hope he figures it out and u Yeah it's been really strange to watch. Yeah And then I had one other Calebs giving Jerseys to Pope Leo. Yeah I'd one other Tobias Harris would be fourth all time NFL career earnings, so NBA contracts are back Oh, he's made three hundred thirty million dollars And he's too shy of Tom Brady's holy shit. Oh, that's awesome Holy shit That is nuts. God bless America. Holy crap. Buts That's insane. Good for him. Yeah. good for. What about Kirk cousins I feel like Kirk Cousins might be right in line with that We' the top four U topop four are Matthew Stafford. Aaron Roders, Tom Brady and then Kirk Cousins So he's just above Kirkz gotot it. You never know. Mike get another bite Curse got one more in them. Don't count out contract. No. Okay, let's do Mount Rushmore of weapons. and then we have Brie Winhorse talking NBA free agency Okay, Mount Rushmore is presented by twwisted T Summers here and so is the Twisted Te summer party pack twwisted teas is refreshing hard iced tea made with a real brewed tea and five percent alcohol. 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It's been like that scene except just for an entire month. Yeah, just that's all that it's been. It's his life has been half wedding. He's been a Bidezilla. Let's just all admit it. He's been a Bridezilla for the last three months, but he is Finally, I think the wedding is almost over in the fact that he's missing this show and so is Hank. So we were sitting and we were kind of gameplning what we should do And I made the offer to Zach. I was like, Hey, you can pick the Mount Rushmore if you don't talk to Hank. And then I said, you know what? Memes, do you mind sitting out this one? Let's just go Moi Moi Mano. So Zach Me all three of us and then We're like, you know what? let's do a Mount Rushmore where none of us have any idea what we're talking about and We will not use any Google or any help from anything. Not even a simple, hey, what What what are some of these And the Mount Rushmore is going to be the Mount Rushmore of weapons I would say we're not weapons guys. Is that fair to say? No I call of duty Zach might have Yeah not really weapons. I'm more of a weapons delivery system guys. Yeah I know I know planes. I know tank Um, but outside of that, no, I'm not I have used weapons. Yeah. I've shot some guns, but it's not it's it's My lists got got really tough after about we were all pen and paper. My list got tough after about six I had to start going outside the box thinking all over the place. So Weapons. Who has first pick memes PFT Oh okay, then who goes second That you. Okay. then Zach. I love having first overall pick in this draft. I gott to be honest with you. Okay This is huge. This is huge. So ready to get started? Yeah. All right.s goodood weapons a bomb. Okay. Nuclear bomb. Nuclear I wanted it to be nuclear bomb as my weapon of choice. It changed everything Okay, I got a question right off the bat Is there a difference between a nuclear bomb and a hydrogen bomb? Beuse I have both on my list. hydrogen bomb is a type of nuclear bomb So I can't take hydrogen bomb. Hydrogen bomb and Aom bomb are slightly different. What's the new age one that we have that's like so sick That's like makes the because you're talking about the one we dropped in Japan. I want the one we got now. I'm talking about nuclear weapons, which are that that's everything from Fatman and littleittle boy back in the day to the Tsar bombo that Russia developed So whatever we got on the Trident missiles right now So just nuclear bombs Okay, so I can't do any hy no hydrogen. I nuclear weap That's off table nuclear bomb. Okay. All right, you know what? I pick I think I might just go out of the outside the box for all my picks then because I really had nuclear bomb kind of the only one I really good about. Everything else I was like maybe. and I did have nuclear bomb and hydrogen bombs. So that was my one two 're taken just like that. my chemistry teacher in high school told me a joke when he was trying to get us to learn the periodic table. What do you do when your parents come home and interrupt your party? Thereere you go. Hydrogen. Nice Yeahah Okay, so what does this mean? What are you pulling up? What the fuck does this mean? It's just a lot of different This is the most powerful nukes. Okay. Got it, gotot it. Sarbamba. Yeah, bigig boy. That was nineteen sixty one. I feel like we've got to get better, right? No, we kind of stopped going bigger because it reached the point where we're like, hey, we're probably just gonna to destroy the Earth if we make them any bigger than this. So do we drop Sarbomba That was So Russia did that. on a remote island that's like way up north in Russia. and then now you can't go back to it ever again. And justust to do that's kind of selfish just to do. J just to drop one. Just to be like, hey, look what we got. I think it was so heavy that they had to design like a brand new plane that could possibly carry All you know what, I'm going to do a regular weapon for the first one, not all outside the box. I feel like I got to I got to hit something. and I do have one that I like. I'm going to go with the sniper Rifle. That's a good pick. Sniper Rifles awesome weapon, especially if you're playing video games just sit out. That's frowned upon, right? Zach. H his great pick. No, I guess in different game modes. Are you taking So all snipers off the board I think so. He got he got everything He got all the hydrogen and nuclear. Thats fair. Yeah. Why did you have a specific type of sniper? I think the Bare fifty cow is probably the one one. Yeah that is that would be the one. I got it. It's great pick. Yeah, great pick off the bat. Okay. What do you got I'm going to go with it gets really it gets tough. Is there a more fun to use for fun gun to use in video games than to siper right? No. Would you headshot someone Yeah Yeah Unreal feeling. Yeah. It really is.hing notothing else like that in life Well In the game though In the game th in the game of IRL. Weaponless IRO. Okay. I'll take AK forty seven Okay, All right, Commi. I didn't know um Is that an is it technically an ass Asault rifle. AK forty seven is a Russian That's all rightifful Russian rifle, very dury.row in the m, throw in the water, get right back up, works fantastic. Okay, so were you think about taking AR fifteen? I was gonna just take assault rifle. AR fifteen, which stands for assault rifle fifteen as Memes and I were discussing earlier. I don't know Everyone knows that Yeah, I don't my all my my entire list is just very generic terms. Okay, fair. So so we'll just said with between nuclear bomb in a form of an assault rifle seventy five percent of my list is gone So why didd you get guns? is how it would work? Guns would have gone one one, I think. Yeah. that was the only. Okay, it's fair Okay, and then one more pick I'm going to go with The force for Star Wars. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. good because I I like I said, I've run out of actual Weapons here have a couple Is a force just magic I think that's up for interpretation. Zach, do you know that this side of the room has never seen Star Wars Worth watching. I saw the second half of definitely worth watching. W was the last one return of the Jedi I don't have the numeric orders like that, but I think that's one of the third third one, which was technically the sixth one that came out. I saw the second half of that. And then it turns out I did watch Phantom mininis. I just forgotten about it because it sucked because they were just like Debating taxes the entire movie. Yeah. I've seen the original ones, but I haven't really seen like the Disney ones, the newer ones Okay. I'm going to go with what I think is maybe more powerful of a weapon than the nuclear bomb, hydrogen bomb I'm going to go with big perfect tits pickrings any man to his knee. Got some weapons, Yeah. Yeah. it's just like, what are you going do about that? Nothing. You just you become a puddle. Yeahep, right? The Nips that l that launched a thousand ships. You could you could Yeahah, right. Like then who starting W war? Helen Jan of Ar? Helen of Detroit. What did Joan of Arc do? She was burned at the stake Okay So that was close. Whatere you say Shane? Shan's in the booth because Max is a Bidezilla. Shane is Google, bigig perfect tid. Now we're just looking at nudes. Shane. There are nudes in the in the room. Yeah, good job't. And some of those aren't perfect. No, those Actually come are all perfect. Actually yeah. ye Yeah.'re they're all really good. Thank you, S. They're really, really good. Keep scrolling. That's a good job by. Okay. All right, let's stop scrolling. Max just got Wallyipip bigig time. Yeah. Wait, did you have S seearch off It was on, I turned it off. Okay, all right good. Oh Max, what a fucking pussy. He had safe search on me. Okay, PFT Okay H cross out sniper rifle here. Okay, that was a it was a pie chart of our weapons knowledge. I think As assault rifle, sniper rifle and nuclear bomb had to be That's a ninety percent of it. It's a lot of it. All right. I'm gonna to go with a classic one. I mean, probably more people have died by this then just about anything else could also be used to conffer knighthood onto people Uh, the sword. Okaykay The sword. Yeah, the mightiest medieval weapon of them all I had knife on there so I like the pick That's a good pick too. I feel like swword is just like that's a longer knife. L way bigger knife. So swword in front of knife. Yeah Okay, you have two picks. Oh yeah Um, with Rocket launcher That's pretty good. Locky monsters are That's pretty awesome. Don'tire too close to a wall because then you'll hurt yourself. And also don't hit a barrel with it because that's just going to blow everything out Okay, this one you guys can tell me if this this passes the snuff test. This is one I'm personally very scared of just in general. like is all I kind of hear about with China and all this shit. Can I do cyber warfare? Yeah, it's good pick. I mean, that's a great pick. Yeahah. I don't understand it at all I just feel like at some point they're going to press a button and we're all going to be fucked. every cell phoneess going to be jammed. Oh the stop lightights are going to, you know, go green. Yeah, everythingthing's going like all the hospitals are gonna to stop working. Cyber warfare scares the fuck out of me. You ever think about just like, what if there was a button for all the like Wayo cars And somebody hit it and they all just started going like a hundred miles an hour driving in circles everywhere. Yeah. likeike that would be pretty terrifying. Right Like like If you told me that we were going to get hit by cyber warfare or like a bom like a bomb you die pretty quickly. Cyber warfare, it's like, you're probably going to just become the rules of the street and I ain't gonna to survive that. And you might not even know you're dead. Like what if It just turns us all into a simulation My kids, by the way, pet they stopped and pet one of those robots today and I that was the first time I was like We might be it's gone too far is like the normalization. They're like, oh, look at the robot. They're like, what's its name? Selma. nam of a robot is someone Take us over. They one of those robots that was pouring people coffee in the San Francisco airport just gave double birds. I will say that I saw there was a robot that does your laundry for you and I kind of want to buy it just to I don't want to buy it to do laundry for me, I want to buy it and put it in the office and fuck with it I don't think it can handle stairs because it was just like I saw that same one It seems like stairs might be a problem for it. We should get a robot just for Mincy and just see how quickly because that actually might be our last defense That robot was Mincy's brain us robots. Like if you get a robot butler and you have Mincy be in charge of it, we might be able to disable all the robots. orr yeah, the robot might just off itself. Right, exactly And'd just be like Meny, where's the nearest magnet? wouldould it be like remote controlled? Like he's he's driving the robot or No I don't know. No, I think this robot just does your laundry for you. It's like seventeen grands. It also looks like it did. No offense to the robot, but like The guy was moving slow as fuck. I thought that we were way past that point in robot making too when I saw it. I was like I expected it to be walking like a human Yeah, it's just kind of like gliding and clumsy. If Mincy actually Mincy only has like three shirts Yeah the robot would be like probably kill itself out of boredom. Yeah, true. The folds were also like incredibly made.ike wasn't a very fold job at all. I wasn' impressed. No. I wasn't impressed. A for seventeen. No Okay., you have two picks. I will take Would do you have two picks? You have sex. We have to switch up I'm going to take Kimbo Uzi And then I'm also gonna to take I actually had Uzie on there, but I didn't know if Uzies were cool or not. Does that mean like dual wheeled? Yes. Okaykay. Is that is that canan I take him over or? Yeah you can go. Yeah. And then I'd also like to take I'd like to take C four plastic explosive Okay, yeah Okay. theseese are all weighed heavily towards call duty, it seems. I think weighed heavily towards Really fucking some shit up. Yeah. you know, I ye a Kimbo, notot a bad move But like if you have two of them that you can't do anything else with your hands Yeah. Yeah, you can't really reload, but you know, that's why they got the thirty round hunt around That' what thez's That's one the plus ses of the Uzie is a small ammunition with so many bullets Can I ask meames a question It's not about he's not going to be able to pick. He doesn't know my list at all meeans should I go regular weapon or stay off the book Stay off the book. Okay dual threat quarterback. All right yeah, it's good.et I might have find itself I was just thinking about weapons. againgain, I don't know weapons at all. so I just started my mind wandered. I have some more honorable mentions that I think are kind of in line with that. I did have Dennard Robinson. Yeah. Listen He was his position was listed as offensive weapon in Michigan. really good dual threat quarterback is a problem I had women, but the titss was a better pick. Yeah, Titsits are ye. specific. Yeah. I got one more, yeah. Y. All right, I might You know me, and you know how I do Mount Rushmore. I feel like I'm fighting myself mentally to keep myself from fucking up my with a weird pick. by already you already picked sword It sorts a good pick. Yeah And like, fifteen, twenty. I mean, just for lifetime stats on the sword. Yeah, true. You get to respect as one of the goats OG. Cannon ball still there Cannball still there. I am going to go with Musket Fists. Oh Okay. Yeah fists nice. beat down. Everyone's got them. Everyone has weapons that they're born with, they die with for the most part. All right, good draft Knuckle sandwich, not bad pick. Yeah, Kuckle sandwich. Do we want do honorable mentions? I had I did have Stehven Sagal I had Rambo and I had Kimbo slice RIP. Yeah, he was weapons. I had Flamethrower Ooh, Flametrowers is good. I couldn't You guys may be helping this. drones, but I don't really understand drones, but I just see a bunch of Russian dudes laying down in a field pretending to be dead and then getting blown up. It looks like hell. Yeah. That does feel like the weapon of the future And they do like the drones and birds now. Y Terrifying. that That is a really terrifying weapon. I think they like fly those drones around too, like tether to ethernet cables so they don't lose connection. So all these fields just have like tons of internet cables all across them from just guys just ripping drones all day. Yeah. Right, which is a terrifying existence to live in. And then they have the All of Ukraine. Looks like the the first or third base foul line now with the nets. They just have nets everywhere to try to catch them to T try to trap the dronone Foul balls. Yeah, But the thing is the drones can go over Nohing about drones when they're coming down Like when they come downbama that's that's on top of like the streets too catch the drone. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I had landmines Oh, those are mother phble missions. I had I don't know what the specific name is, but I just know that we did this with Iran. The Bunkerbuster. Yeah. That one seemed pretty fucking cool Bunkerbuster is called the Moab, the mother of all bombs. That's a big one Uh, I had Red turtle shells Yeah. Mario card. Good one. It's a great shake. That's the one I thought about taking, but I was like I better be safe and go fist. Yeah. Everybody's got them. Lightning would have actually been the pick. Lightning. Yeah, Lightning have been the pick for sure. Nun trucks He weaponize weather You sure can. Yeah Cloud seed. COVID Uzie had Yeah Trpedoes but those are only subs Kind of a dark one Really no defense against this weapon Suicide bombers Tough one the best tough one to stop. Yeah, guy just walks in. boom You're dead. Everyone's dead. you're wearing a skinny, like a sleek vest. Yeah. Are you a suicide bomber or do you work at like Ernston Young? I don't. For my other ones that were off the outside the box blackmail Good weapon That's a good weapon. Yeah. Nostalgia Nostalg is a hell of a weapon People just that's all people do now. I think it's more of a drug than a weapon. It might be more of a drug, but it is people are just hitting you with nostalgia all the time being like Did you guys see especially fourourth of July? Yeah these just like made up pictures in like this was this was America in nineteen eighty five. Itust like a scene from Sandlot Yeah, actually that' that's a fucking hot movie. But also wasn't there wasn't there like a friend of mine. Wn't sheanl out a lot. Huge recession then. I don't know Or maybe it was like nineteen seventy five? was it? Or nineteen seventy six, wasn't that like when they had to have a lottery to get gas? Yeah, like the last couple of years. L. Shit suck then There's any any point in history shit has sucked. Well the trick is you just got to focus on the other stuff. Yeah, the best part of Y history in like everyone's nostalgia. The best part, the sweetest spot that you can always hit is just when that person happened to be like fourteen years old. Yeah. That's when the world was. Maybe not even for it, mayaybe like ten Yeah fourteen is like I've a raging boner and I have to jerk off every day. Yeah, ten to fourteen. Yeah that's a sweet spot. You know that's Yeah we've been there., it's uncomfort. Yeah.' just like dude I'm a man now. And I what men do? they jerk off. you try to walk in the grocery store.'s, where I put this thing? Yeah exactly this Exactly. I drive and I jack off. That's what I do. I'm fifteen Uh Belgiian Malinois Those dogs. Those dogs are absolute weapons. Ples. They freak me out. yeah. Pit. Ples for sure. The Silence PP seven That's a good pick The BFG nine thousand picking odd job. Yeah That's fucked up. That's fucked up. you just you're loser person. You're just a loser person. Zach doesn't understand our sick reference there. No. I missed that one. If you were really nasty at Goldenye then you would be like, Hey, I'll be Jaws Yeah, You can be oddob because Jaws was like seven feet tall. Oddjob was like five feet tall, so it was harder to hit him. Okay. And where I comfort It was out two of our life Yeah So maybe you give your the home that your friend with not as well accuracy you you give him job. Yeah, mayaybe if they've got like the Madcat controller H here you can use this one. U like kid who didn't have an N sixty four Yeah and it's like, he's got no chance. He only plays when he comes over to the house. Yeah Yeah I think right. I had u The AM nine sidewinder missiles Heat seekers, Th those are pretty cool.. And the GAU canon on the A ten Wardthog, the tank Killer. That's. The one that's got like the shharkmouth at for the plane. Well like Gatlin gun, you know the. Yeah, it's gun that goes That's a good one.. Zach pick. TNT, Claymore. Yeah, RPG, spepear gun Bow and arrow, S H g's good ye You know' L like Spear gun? I mean Yeah, if you're like a fish I guess it would be I think even be out hundreds. I mean, ye, don't know. We got a spear gun. rememember how hard it was to shoot If you got a guy who's like that with the spear gun, Yeah I guess. We talked about earlier, but like just a net Just a giant net in general is a great weapon. Yeah. Th about it. A bulldog lawyer? Yeah That's a that's a t weapon. Yeah like just a legal weon like an unbelievable legal team just being like I'm going to sue you for everything. That is a weapon People use that all the time U Falair and Valgan Yeah You should have been on there. Yeah Laser beam. Laser is a good one Laser beam's a really good one What else did you have Mac ten, G five Glock, Rocket laauncher, UNP forty five, also Kembo We did the women I'm not getting near mind. Voner we do bonero Uh No, needeler. Hello needeler. is like aun that shots needles? Yeahah. But was one that you weren't going to do? Oh religion. I wasn gonna say. No, that's a good one. I was thinking about that too. It's a tough one to bring up, but it is a weapon Yeah, I could definite do recognized. Yeah And then a Sntex grenade, which is like a sticky grenade. Yeahes, why did you go with C four over Claymore because the plastic explosive, it's so malleable like guys who just like I like the covert oddness of the plastic explosive Okay likeike if you're on like a like more of like a spy mission, you just pull it out. blow something up, cllim more yet, they're more like a You know they're coming with the cllay Wars Yeah, because they're just out there Yeah and you can see him. The plastic explosive seems a little more sneaky. Oh, we missed Tommy Gun. Tommy Gun's gun. That's good. Oh, brass knnuckles. Yeah. brass knnuckles again always feel like they fuck people up. Also Um, Throwing stars Yeah, those are cool. Nunchucks maybe. Yeah. Yeah, nunchuck's cool. He of a baseball bat. Baseball bat's cool. It's a good one. Yeah. Baseball bats really cool Beer Do we say grenadade I think Zack said a grenade earlier but I don't think he think he said before we started. I don't think I took grenade. Yeah as's a miss. Grenade been a pick. Yeah, Grenade feels like close as acc countount, Zack Flash bang a really loud siren Oh, like like one of those crank ones. Yeah, but like one that just never stops. That would drive you insane. Oh yeah, that wouldd be nuts I don't know. Mustard gas? Oh yeah, mustuster gas bad Bons Yeah biapons What about just u Disease. You said COVid but disease. I mean, think about the think about, you know part of this country, you know, just handing out blankets Right full the common cold boom changed What about um just words Yeah, I was thinking the pen or the pen. Yeah, the pen is lightiter than the sword. Tue U Mes so we mees memes and shane. Any that we missed I think a lightsaber Oh lightsaberers. L lightsaber is better than force. That's not real the force. Yeah, but with the force can Doesn't the force delete somebody with a lightsaber? could You could just be like, Hey, I'm going to move your lightsaber out of your hand. Yeah. lightsaber' so cool. Had lightsabers as well, it does feel like the force could just like Give me that and then take it away. Right. a knife I feel like a knife would have been a good pick. But like that doesn't look great next to sword. knife. Yeah. I had knife on there. Jinx. Jinx is a powerful weapon Yeah she just jink someone gold scar G Fortnite Folcar Ballistic knife from Black ups. alsoso good pick LT inside ten yards L loveve that and that was my if someone had taken a dual threat quarterback, I would have maybe gone you know, a great catching running back good one It they arent weapon. And then my personal favorite favorite the the trebuche. Okay. laxatives and donuts. Llasses and donoughs. Combination Do I se was it So like shot yourself? Yeah, you shot yourself W Maranna Riverz u Yeah You're talking the mic Do you get talking the mic? talk Wait, Mariana Rver is what? Cotter. Cotter, okay. Cut fastball. trying to think of other weapons. Steph Curry's range. The giant hand from Jackass? Yeah. I' see Jackass swek. M did I fuck that out Yeah Yeah, I don't know. don't trust memes. Memes doesn't take PFT one. I mean a nuclearomb. It's like that was tough it's tough to come. Nuclear bomb was half my pick. Andy Rocket launer. That' a nuclear bomb and hydgen bomb. Yeah. I did have a pretty good. I see the big the big tiddy boys to come up You know what? I think I had the two strongest picks. I might have had two of the weaker. Sword was not a great pick. You can get dominated now If you see a guy with a sword, you're like, gu's got problems. Yeah, that guy's gonna to go cut a watermelon? No, it's just like, what's your Reddit account sir. Yeah,ight. That's what you say. You think it more like Like mythological sword or like ninja sword Like Samurai He was thinking like mythological they're not mythological but like I was thinking like medieval day. William Wallace' big just fight chainmill. Yeah. okay. Yeah. Yeah, like nights Yeah, medieval times. Listen, if there's just a shitload of people that love big tits and are afraid of cyber warare with China. I could be in I mean, in business. Yeah pretty much everyone. Yeah if they're honest with themsel Yeah. I did the Star Wars guys come on heavy. All right. Good Mount Rushmore We willll be back with the regular teams on Monday or sorry Wednesday Good Mount Rush. It felt good. Yeah. Not exactly our expertise, but I think we showed out. Analog too D't didn't Google anything, didn't look anything up weens off the dome. Sorry to all the military guys listening who are like what the fuck are these guys talking about Yeah, but also thank you for your service. Yes, thank you for your service. We did that just to make you feel smart. Before we get to Brian Windhorse, he's brought to you by our great friends over at Nutral It is Tahoe week. 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I think that you had a momentary lapse in judgment when you were reacting some news that just broke. and we say things in this business and sometimes we look back on things we say And we think, you know what? That was really stupid. So Okay, I'm gonna to write it down. you don't hate me. Yeah Dud hate you. So you got him very triggered one day. He was walking around being like Wendy's what the fuck is Wendy saying? what is Wendy saying? I like him, but what is he saying? Well, yeah, I mean so like I said, we say things in his business and I'm willing to extend grace to you and say that maybe you'd like to walk it back and say, maybe maybe that was the stupid thing I've ever thought or said. The greatest things you can do is extend someone grace. Yeah. Okay Before we even start, I just want to say I appreciate the sentiment That's why I love you, Winnie. Please double down. The Treay Young contract. Yeah. I bet you didn't think you were gonna have to answer for the Treay Youunng contract But your position is why? My position is that it is not the worst contract in the NBA. As you said after the deal was done, you said you don't think that they could trade it unless you attach the number one overall pick to it With everything that we saw in the last week or so I feel like it's safe to say that this is u Maybe not an accurate take that you had. You still might not like the like the contract But to say it is the worst contract in the NBA, I think that's hyperbole. And I think that you deep down would understand that. U And and your s what the circumstances have changed. Why? Well the cgumment so if you saw like they were able to trade Paul George last week. Yeah, he got tradeed. know the Tre's contract is two years longer and like one hundred million dollars more. And Trey is also much younger and healthier than Paul George is. No crew. Yeah, okay He's also a lot shorter I mean, how long how far do you want to go down we' going to go dollars per inch? We're going dollars per I think I think Tay Young, you know, he has issues for sure and he has not you know, lived up to some of the promise that he showed early on in his career. But I think he's going to be a fine point guard. I don't think that he's he's a Albatross around the neck of the Washington Wizards with that contract that he has And you're right. We can't you know what? what else are we going to spend that money on right now? That's absolutely an unacceptable reason to say that I would just say this like, u In this current day and age in the NBA Um And and and and it's it's Those of us who are just immersed in it, like up to our eyeballs, it's the way we think every day. and so many of the fans like They' they're their thought process hasn't changed yet. And by the way, we may be too far on the edge, but I say we as in like the media cover the league, but like right now You cannot afford to have a contract on your books That's a massive overpay and There was nobody bidding that for Treay up Nobody. noobody bidding that number of dollars or years They can say that there was, I just don't believe it. I reject the concept. And I definitely upset the wizards by saying that. they were very upset And even like like the tray group which you know I mean, I gott to tell you like Ty young They were trying to trade him for like a year You know, And it's not because he's a bad person Um It's not because he's a bad player It's because and this is the thing that where we're at in the NBA U, his contract number versus his production. The deelta that existed there was difficult to live with in the current day and age. And that's the key part in the current day and age Six years, seven years ago, if you had a player that was making higher than his production, it just meant that your owner had to spend more. And if you got to different layers of the tax, you'd like, boy, that was really penal or whatever. But it didn't kncap your ability to deal with your team Like now if you have a player who's Production level versus his salary, Is that a whack It like keeps your general manager up at night for like months on end. Right. And so it took the hawks L a year. to get somebody to take that contract And they finally You know, they they trayed Trey to because they just couldn't get anybody in the league who looked at Trey Young. again, not because of him as a person notot because him is a player, his production versus his contract It took a year and finally a team, you know, they got off of it and the team that got them now had the problem And he opted out of his contract and they had the opportunity to re re doo that And they had they were in a good position. They wanted Treay to be their franchise point guard. They were not going to draft a point guard. I mean, they' already when they did that contract, they'd already decided they were drafting to Ba. Okay. So they were like Treay young. is going to be our franchise point guard. Okaykay And here's the thing though They already promised him, they were going to sign him when they traded for. Hm. And the reason that they did that was because they needed him to not play. Yeah. Okaykay? Because if he had played, we went might have one a bunch more games and they might have not gotten number one pick And so if you're going to be a free agent, the last thing you're going to do is like basically admit that, you know, say that I'm injured for six months they told them like Trit, we're going to take care of you Don't worry. so we're on the same page. We're invested in you. We're going to bench you So they are so Trey already knew he was going to get paid And that's why he agreed to it. Now Now the wizards can't say this publicly, but that's what happened. And so his agent did an amazing job because he got him traded to a team. It was like, we want Trey Young, and we're going to pay him And like he's going to be our point guard. We're not even going to look at Darren Peterson. We're going to we're going totally invest in new trade because we think you can be great And then they got him to pay him a max Nobody in the league wanted to trade him on a max for a year There was nobody who wanted to give a four year max. Now, I'm not saying an agent wouldn't come on here and say that that's a lie and they could probably try to prove you wrong. I just don't believe it. So That's my thing. It's not having Trey Young as your point guard. It's not insaning even six months ago, we want Trey Young as our point guard. It's saying it that I'm going to pay him forty million dollars a year for four years. And not only am I going to give them to him for four years I'm going to give them a player option on year four, which is just The whole player option phenomenon in the NBA and it's probably a little bit too deep in the woods When I was a kid Two different guys got player options. The superstars you know LeBron James class and like the guys who were at the end of their careers who were playing for minimums. And you could you know, they would take him like a huge discount. And so you just give them a player option to protect him. you didn't give player options to everybody who walked in the door. Well, nowadays, everybody gets a player option. Ebody. There's so many player options out there. It's maddening, that's a different topic to give Treay that contract, it just it kills you because even if you were in love with Trey Young as a player and said, I've got to have him away from the wizards. I don't care what it costs I don't care about the money um that it's going to cost When he has a player option, it puts the franchise in such a bad spot becausecause in two years, you' now got to deal with it Because in two years, he'll be a year away from free agency and he can hold you up So I just Whatever the wizards had to do to get the number one pick I in this particular draft, I'm going to excuse. So I'm not going get on them about promising Trey Young when they ended up could have drafting Darren Peterson Even if Parson goes on and becomes like a superstar. I'm not even going to get on because they had to do what they had to get the number one pick giving him two hundred and twelve million dollars is the player option in this market. I just I thought it was I thought it was a poor decision. and I stand by that. Okay, That's fair. A couple counterpoints. I would say that with the new draft lottery rules, having a guy like Trey Young at that contract would actually be may be more valuable of a trade piece than in years past where like you said, he would be good enough to make a bad team just good enough to not be in that bottom three bottom four So therefore they'd be like in the sweet spot of whatever the next new draft lottery would be. So let me just real quick counterpoint that counterpoint. So you're saying that Trey Young is good enough No matter what to get to make you a play in team I think you said that earlier. in so many words. Yeah. Right. And is that a max? that's that's what you want a twenty hundred million dollars player to be? Well by himself, I mean, we do have other pieces around him that I think are much better than it's not like a Tay young team That's what's so I think that's what I what I like about is because he's surrounded by a lot by and large, a lot of younger players that are on affordable deals at least for the next couple years. And then after those couple of years passes and the backloaded contract that Tay has att the very least, we're going to be in a spot where they' going to be percentage evenven if that were true overall happened the last year. And it's not as bad as start high. You would start his contract high, evenven if you wanted to give him a max in the first year you start his contract high and then you would step it down so that as he aged and your other players got expensive, you could I don't even agree with that. But even if you wanted to say you give Ta Max in the first year, then you'd setep it down when your team goes up. then you would do that. I There's no such thing as it's okay to pay them a lot now because we don't have that many good players.. I fundamentally reject that premise. I'm sorry. Okay, I think Can you just say that it's not the worst contract in the NBA? I mean, if you want to and the worst contract is what I don't know let's see who would that be? I mean, Paul George pretty bad andB Paul George just got Jalen Brown. so right Fundamentally, that's not true Joel andbede, not a great contract. Jo is a very tough contract. I just watched Joel andbede win a game seven on the road with a forty point game or whatever That's true won the NVP. Now you can say that it's a by the way, I think it's bad And if you if if what if what you're getting if where you're going is to get me to concede that I shouldn't have said it's the worst contract if I if I would amend my statement to it's one of the worst contracts. If that's what you consider a victory. that's quite literally one I can't I am so sorry that as a wizards fan, you've been so damaged. Okay. that this is where youre you're going that you're going to say. That's all he need. We only have one of the worst contracts. Yeah. but it okay. but if that's what you want, I'll concede that. Okay that I should have. Okay One of the worst contract. You could have owned wind huge massive job massive This is why you'aster master at this profession embrace it again. it's the big But I know what you're saying. I am a little bit defensive about the wizards But I also think that you can't necessarily fully judge bad you think this contract is until we see Trey Young play with this wizards Young Cps. And then we can truly see How bad the contract. But even if he becomes a star an all star this year, you understand no one was offering a four year max with a player option That's like it's not it's not an evaluation of as a player. It's an evaluation of the decision to give that gu. We might be looking back on this in four years and being like, that's the best contract in. Hey, listen, man If I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong, And if I, you know, if I believe that that's the case, I'll do it. Yeah. All right. All right good talk Wendy. All right. that was enough enough wizards talk. Let's let's talk some MBA free agency. So ye I want to start with the Dust is setettled Jalen Brown trade We were all shocked. What have you picked up since then, since Thursday of what the thought process is here? becausecause I feel like it was probably a toxic situation that Celtics had to get out of because they'd already Jalen Brown and, you know, it just seemed like it was not sustainable But still How could they have not done better than that I did not have a feel for how low of a value that Jalen Brown was in the NBA. I just didnt have a feel for it And you know, we have lots of conversations and we watch lots of basketball and we talk to lots of different people. I didn't understand it. You know, what I did notice was after the Yonest trade went down and went, you know, went to Miami's direction. I started hearing about what what Boston was was asking for in trades and they were all of a sudden asking for draft picks And I was like Now that's interesting because I thought Boston was like, you know, on the verge of still competing to win the Eastern confonference. Like why would you Why would you be like asking for like multiple draft picks? you know? And I started, you know I was thinking two things. I started asking questions. I was like, well, maybe they have another player that they can trade for. Maybe there's another player out there and the team wants draft picks for them. So it's part of a three team deal. And so first, I'm saying, well, what is that player? Who were they actually targeting and who were they getting the draft picks? And as I kept having conversations teeams were rejecting U rejecting Jayen Brown U the offers, even for the draft picks, like three and four picks, they were rejecting it. And you know, notable players kept getting traded Um And it none of and where Jayalen Brown where the return could have been Jayalen Brown and it wasn't Jalen Brown And I was like Man, like Some of these guys are getting traded like they could help Boston. Right. And they're not. so I was sort of like As I was having the conversations and watching things happen, I was sort of processing it And I just didn't understand his value was where it was. And so I started having conversations with people and Like I kept hearing the same thing from teams Um, where they were saying, you know, they were explaining about certain factors of the of the of his value. And again, this is where the nuances is tough in this day and age. and I agree, you know, we're It's been such a sea change in the NBA that it's it's not everybody is totally adapted whichich is that it's not Jalen Brown the player. It's Jalen Brown, the player for his salary. Right And you have these teams that are afraid of having him for three more years at that salary with the with the with the, you know, the modifier that he was going to want a contract extension This summer I talked to multiple teams who said we just didn't want to get him in house and then tell him we didn't want to extend him or offer him a pay cut. R And I was like like I was like and but I talked to Several people, and I wrote even wrote a story about this that published on ESPN on Friday who were like, we have lost the plot This is, you know, I talked to one guy and he's like How many times have we seen this? You know, highigh school kids, international players Three point shooting rest. like we we do this, you know, somebody finds a lane that's successful and then They go to saturation and there's always this tipping point The Darko Milisic moment where An incredible front office of Detroit pistons convinced themselves that Darka Milichic was going to be better than Carmelo Anthony. rightight? Like that was like That was like part of why David Stern said, no more eighteen year olds. becausecause Carmell Anthony is one of the best college players the last forty years. and somebody saw Darkco and said, manan. D' Joe Mars, Joe D Mars Ped who's one of the hottest Streaks as an executive when he built those detroit teams. and And you know, the same thing. you get into a game like where you're Boston and you're shooting sixty five three pointers and you can't hold a lead or whatever Um, And it just goes to saturation. And so like, I definitely have people saying to me This Jayalen Brown thing is a tipping point. like He is going to go to Philadelphia and he's going to be great. I don't know if to'll win the title but it'll look bad. And then I've got a bunch of other people saying you can't have a sixty million dollars a year player who when he plays on the court, the team gets outs scored Right. And it's not because he gets on Twitch. It's not because he says I want to be I'm the best two way player or anything like that. I mean, I don't think those are I don't think the idea of him getting on Twitch and saying that this was my favorite season was in the plus reason. That's not why they traded him That's not why teams weren't aggressive with them. They just saw a sixty million dollars player who wanted seventy million who probably would have wanted seventy million dollars a year And I am totally trying to grapple with it myself because E as all I do all day long is talk to executives this time of year and I just didn't understand how low the value was. and I'm still in some ways stunned by it. Yeah. What about the reports of a little bit of friction between him and Tatum? Like the personalities just didn't mash By the end, it was just a situation where one of them was going to have to go no matter what. Do do you put any stock into those reports I mean Based on my conversations with the parties involved, that was not a driving factor The driving factor was Boston felt like it could spend the money more efficiently I don't know where Jason and Jalen are like personally. I mean, I saw some reports that like they were both in con last week And like they werere both there and they like didn't even hook up even though this stuff was going on I don't know. I'm not there. I don't know what was on their schedule. I don't know anything about that I do not think that was a driving force for this in the Celtics. I think that They looked at the numbers and said, we can spend our money more efficiently. And you may come back and say, well, well, Paul George makes the same salary.. So how can you possibly say that Paul George at the same salary is better off than Jalen Brown? would say Listen, man, I agree. I don't see it either. I'm just telling you the way that I think the Celtics, you know made this decision. And so tomorrow Monday U I think Brad Stevens and their owner, u Bill Chisholm are going to come out publicly and we'll see you know, they've had days now to formulate a case And we will see what they say And I assume they're going to take questions and have to defend it. So we'll see what they say. Now you could tell me this is stupid, Wendy because I don't fully understand it, but it does feel like we're in a weird spot with the NBA and how the CBA is set up in the second apron and all this stuff where teams are basically like they have to give these max contracts to these guys because Jalen Brown is wherever you think of him He's Let's say top fifteen he's probably closer to ten than fifteen, but let's say top twenty player. You're going to have to pay a guy like that. Right. But then the second Apron is so punitive now and teams are so scared of it. that you just basically set up a league where I know that they want parody, but I think the MBA has been the strongest when there has been dynasties and you have those storylines. But now it feels like a team cannot keep their stars because you have to pay them and then you got to ship them as soon as you get in that second apron and a guy doesn an owner doesn't want to pay it. So did they kind of screw themselves with this? So it depends on what you mean by screw themselves because they have ele they're one year into an eleven year seventy seven billion dollar TV deal. Okay. So you would say, why aren't they gonna to hurt themselves by you know, their popularity. Well, I guess, but You know, maybe the ratings will go down five or eight percent or whatever, twelve percent, but they're guaranteed seventy seven billion. Checks going to clear. So like on one hand, like the owners like this is the perfect time to do this because they knew they were going to get paid. And like just at the end of the day, the owners, you know, there's thirty of them, right? And there's more middle and small markets than there are big markets. So what's good for the overall health of the league is probably to have the Kicks play the Lakers in every finals, right? If you're Cleveland, Milwaukee, Indiana Oklahoma City, San Antonio, like you've it's one team, one vote You've got more power to do that. And if you if you're armed with knowing that you're secure in your earnings for eleven consecutive years because that's going to drive the league revenues. then you can play hardball and that's what they did And so the average player salaries are exploding because of the because of the influx of money Like you know, there are guys now signing for seventy million a year and we are eighty million is coming. Like it's the money is guaranteed. like will be there will be players in the next couple of years where they will be years on their contract where it's eighty million. Okaykay? So you can't say the players are suffering financially They are forcing Player sharing And really the second apron is in the way the teams are acting. They're acting like it's a hard cap. Nobody has been in it two consecutive years. They act like they are afraid of it. because of some of the stuff that they're into. These teams are their actions are telling them that they're acting like a hard cap. And so they have to do player sharing. And here's the other thing It's kind like it used to be that if you had a really good player, you just gave them the max Nobody got eighty five percent of the max. It was like, you know, hand grenades and horseshoes. If you were close to being a max player, you just got the max It wasn't like nobody was like tagling over, you know, that last ten percent. Especially if you were a young guy, like, you know, twenty five or younger. If you were anywhere close like what youre seeing now like with Jail and Durance Three four years ago, Jayen Duran signs his Max extension on july first. It's done. becausecause even though he had a bad playoffs, The pistons look at them like this guy is twenty two years old. and he's already an all star. Absolutely we'reiving them the max. Well, they're playing hardball. They're playing hard ball now because they know they can't give a guy twenty five percent of the cap if his Value is twenty percent of the cap because that five percent is ultimately going to screw you. That five percent. Or even worse, let's say you pay him twenty percent and he ends up being like a player who's valued at about eighteen percent And now you may say this is trivial. Oh yeah, what's trivial until you got a Cut off, you know, fingers and hands to keep your team flow. And so everybody's negotiating harder, which again is why the wizards giving the max what caught the league by a surprise, PFT, sorry to bring it back to that. So now Now there's going to be negotiation on everything And if if if Jayen well here's the thing. Jalen Brown is coming off finishing sixth in the MVP voting second team All NBA Dfinitely one of the most productive in terms of raw statistics seasons of his career. He absolutely elevated the Celtics without Tatum in there He was the lifeblood of their season And if and you've got teams out there who look at him and say Yeah he's probably more of a thirty five million dollars player, not a fifty seven million dollars player. And like people are like slapping their heads, like, what are you talking about? How could you possibly say that But I'm telling you, this is the way these teams are operating right now. And I don't necessarily see it, but this is the way they're operating. Vight. We'll get back to Wendy in a second. 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I love the whiteboard like can we Wendy's whitebard I don't have one, but I will just say that I love whiteboard humor. Like I love thinking about big decisions Yeah and thinking about like what was going on in the meeting Yeah approaching the whiteboard. Yeah. I love that Be the whiteboard. wait before we do the whiteboard can I just ask or you go ahead?' just to reset what the whiteboard is. So. So Rich Paul, he was on a podcast, I think with Max Kellerman. Yeah. And he had a whiteboard of it was like a mind map or brainstorming sheet of where LeBron might play next year. And it just said LeBron in the middle. And then it had lists of lineups I think like seven or eight different ones. It seems that he could realistically see him going to play for. The whiteboard is just it's my favorite edition of the in playoff season. I need to see more whiteboards. How I love it. Wendy, if let's say LeBron doesn't pick a team for another month My question to you is going to be How many times are you gonna get asked? day to day where LeBron is going to go my God This weekend has been blissed, but it's about to be over. Yeah You get asked all that like everywhere you go? Yeah of course Of course. Yeah. That's my way of not asking, but where' you going to play? You guys know as podcasters, especially you guys do it so many times, you know that feeling that's like a warm blanket. You go into a podcast and you have like piece of gold content Like And you're like, man We are going I mean, you guys are some of the best in the business of being creative. I'm not saying that, you know, this is, you know, sort of, you know Lowest common denominator. But when you're like this is going to carry us through this podcast. It great Yeah. And we're all going to get involved and like this is perfect. It's kind of like, you know, sports radio back in the nineteen ninety seven and a coach just got fired You're like, oh my Godd, baby, I can't wait until three to seven o'clock because boy are those phone lines gonna to be lit up. And we you Mount Rushmore season in the summertime? Yeah. Yeah. exxactly This is what Rich Paul was like going you because podcaster. He's like, o my God. This is going to be great. He's like I could go over ten teams. I could go over but by the way, the best podcast that Rich Paul could do Becauseuse he said that twenty seven teams called Who were the three who didn't call? I was gonna ask me. I want. Makers I've tried, I've tried to figure it out. I mean, I can speculate. I don't know. Give us your speculation because our speculation is Lakers and then Spurs because they got toias Harris. so they don't need LeBron Spurs definitely would call why. No, they no, they signed toobias Harris. He's basically LeBron Oh really? No there was a tweet wereing there was like it was it was announcedment that Tobias Harris. It was like a sppurs account being like the Spurs are officially out of the LeBron sweep stakes now they signed toobias Harris. could to know. All right So one three teams Blakers. Well, I can't, by the way, I don't know, I wish I could tell you I knew. I would be at this point I would be surprised if Memphis Yeah. that's good Well. That's fair. I don't think I I mean I just I mean, I know LeBron is qualified it by saying he was talking about the hotel, not the city of Memphis. Right. But I don't know if Memphis is going to call, but maybe they did. I don't know. Okay. Yeah I like I I actually was like laying awake last night, sayam, what were the three teams? What were the other two that you thought of? I mean, are we counting the Lakers or no Wellf course, Yeah ye. mean. Although I mean, it would be funny call Like the Lakers technically did call. Rightue and want to schedule a meeting. So as rich Is Rich counting that in the twenty seven? Like these are the like this is the podcast that I wanted Yeah. Because Rich might count the Lakers. Yeah. you know, I don't know Like, um Do you think the wizards called We got We got we got tray We're good. I realize that. Listen, I Yeah I do. I think I think the w are playing, you kick the tires sure. If you're playing Trey Young and LeBron a combined fifty million. Yeah That's great That's great management. So I will give you that. If they if they want to average it down like that, that would be awesome I just I don't know, man. I don't know. likeike I I can create all kinds of scenarios, But Rich walked into that and he's going, I can do ten teams here. And there's no chance Le Bos considering ten teams. He's probably considering two and a half Um, but, you know, Rich is like, we're going max You know, Max Kellerman has hosted ten thousand hours of radio. You know, Max knows how to make it go like let's go, baby. I think if it was up to Rich, he would do another podcast next week and he would cut the list to five. Yeah. We're down to five. I like that. This would be, you know, amazing. So Yeah, I got I don't think there's anywhere. Like I think look, here's the thing. It's really a unique situation in NBA history. okay? Because you have a guy who is basically admitting I will play for vastly below my value and not like A ten million dollars player saying's going to play on the minimum. notot like, you know, a guy who could be getting the mid level somewhere who's like, I'm going to go play with a team that could win. Like literally an all NBA level player still a top fifteen, twenty player in the NBA who's like saying I'll play for maybe the minimum. That's the one thing that Rich again hasn't said. likeike he said he'll play for less, but does that mean fifteen million dollars f mid level Be if that's the case, you cross off a bunch of teams Does that mean? the six million dollars mid level that's just for the taxpaying teams because then that because if because if he's willing to say yes to those two, that's the thing. Or is he literally willing to play for the minimum four million bucks They haven't articulated that yet. But if he's willing to play for four million bucks, It makes the scenarios crazy. Right. Why going to Cleveland? Can we just stop the charade? comeome on Weindy. That's what It looks like Yeah because he's he's having this nostalgia time. He's been in he's been in Cleveland for like ten plus days Acron, I should say, not really Cleveland. He does come to Akron every summer And I saw there because there's a lot of, you know,, there was an event over the weekend Um, where he was like in a like it wasn't really a club. He was in like his his place where he hosts families. It's this this center in Akron where It's a lot basically like a family center that has a lot of family programs where they just basically turned it into a club for the night He wasn't a club you know, partying up. He was at this event for his foundation And he has those of that event for his foundoundation every year. and he generally comes to Akron every year at this time. However, the fact that he is in Akron and doing all this stuff and hanging out with the calves from ten years ago and hanging out They had like a little reunion of his high school teammates over the weekend. like Obviously I was not there. I you played point card for him Yes, and I did not make forty one million dollars a year. No, but so who is that? could have played P card. The asssistant GM of the Cabs, correct Yes, whoo is his high school teammate? That's interesteresting. I mean, come on. And are they keeping a roster spot open for Bronnie Well, I mean, like they could get I mean, I know I saw that report like it's it's not like Mark Stein is like one of the best in the business. like it's not wrong. Bronnie makes two million dollars any team in the league if they like it's not any team that acquired LeBron would be able to open a roster spot and bring Bronnie in. What about the other way around though? what if what if one team wanted to like really overpay Bronnie and just hold Bronnie hostage and be like, if you want to play with your son, you have to sign with our team. That's fascinating. So he would they would they would call the Lakers premptively acquire Bronnie. Yeah be like, if you ever want to see your son again the whole NBA season You got to come play the Blazers. Yeah. I mean, this is this is something the Bazers might do. Yeah Don I could see Dunon do it how absolutely. I think because, I mean, obviously, he would want to play with. Now everyone's saying the cabs, everyveryone' saying it it's got to be the cabs.s gott to be the cabs. I was looking at the whiteboard He had just Brad and Tatum listed for the Celtics No Hugo on this list Complete andalled. What did he have when there for the wizards D don't see what the wizards are There's no way the blls wrong. He didn't have Trey. I think it just top of the list. Chasing Jordan's legacy. Okay. I T Trey has always been really good to me. I didn't mean to make it personal, but I just didn't think it was a good. You didn't make it personal. You made it about a contract Yeah she was the opposite of person. It was strictly business. a little person. Wizards thought it was personal.. That's not. Wy. tell you what Wendy, we'll make amends I got season tickets. You'll come to a wizards game, sit courts side with me at some point this year. I love it. I mean, by the way Are you excited about the team? Very excited. should be. extremely excited. Yeah. Yondre Aiten, We got three first overall picks on the team. Yeah, I just keep telling everybody, hey, if eighty stays healthy and Dondre Ayen plays like he did in college We could be really good team. J plays like he did in the first part of that playoffs against. So let me ask you this. you know, so maybe has two years left on his contract Do you think it's a good idea to give him like two more years and one hundred twenty million Uh, this sounds like a trap Sounds like a trap question, Wendy. No No. I think with him, it's probably fair to say We want you to go out there and see what you have see what's left in the tank, see how healthy you are. If you play really healthy, you will guarantee yourself a massive pay day either from us or from some other team that will gladly pay you a max contract That's a completely rational, well thought out, experienced answer. Sounds like a guy learned from the Tyng contract the mistakes that were made. Yeah It's okay. It's okay. That's a beautiful thing about sports Wendy is we can We can disagree and we can have we can have take battles and that's fine. Yeah. Yeah By the way, I think it's amazing that we're having a back and forth about the wizards. That means that the wizards are entering the consciousness thinkraz. We've talked a lot about the wizards on this podcast. Give me the three LeBron spots. Is it Philly Warriors Cleveland? So I'm not sure. I think Philly is there because they make this Jayalen Brown thing. I don't Like look, here's the thing about LeBron He says it's about happiness. Well that is so wonderfully amorphous and nebulous Like, who's to say what makes another man happy Who's to say? rightight? Like like, you know, like LeBron could like decide like I want to play Marion. I played Marion. That's a Yeah, you know, I play the Philadelphia. cret club and I think it's the course I want to play seventy times a year and that makes me happy. Who's to say Yeah You could be a masochist. You could be like, you know what really makes me happy is a bunch of philly fans screaming at me and calling into radio at shows and telling me I'm a bum Right, like the happiness. like so if he picks the warriors Um he can say I want to play with steph. Who's going to Who's gonna to say that that doesn't make somebody happy? That of course it could make you happy. U So this is the thing. We've never seen a free agency like this ever Um, where like The money is kind of for the large part out the window and it's happiness. So you can Whiteboard thirty five teams, Whiteboard, you know, the teams in the G League you know, you can is if you want to create happiness. So I would say this When Draymond opted out of his contract I was like, well, Draymond knows LeBrons out of LA. He very clearly doesn't opt out of his contract unless he knows that there's a possibility And the thing that I didn't know, I was like, would Draymon really opt out on spec Like just at the possibility of LeBron coming, would Draymond leave twenty eight million dollars on the table and like say everything's going to be cool because This happened once before In twenty fourteen when LeBron left, Miami He really didn't articulate to wade and Bosh what he was doing. He was just sort of on the fence And so Waven Bosch look like LeBron opted out of his contract like ready for the season, like ten days before the deadline Wayd and Bh ooppted out because they just they didn't want to be locked in. LeBrnd has had to go back to Cleveland gives Wade like a very minor heads up. like there's been different stories or whatever, but he didn't really let Duayne know until very close to when he actually was going to do it Houston offers Chris Bosch the Max. And so Miami's hand is forced and they give Bosch The max, which ended up being huge for him because he had the blood clots and get his to get the longer contract it worked out and protected him and he didn't lose any money with that terrible healthcare. Wade had like had a really bad season with knee injuries. and when the heat had to like move on, they were like, Hey, Duane, we got to give you a pay cut It cost It costs way about ten million dollars roughly opting out of that contract without certainty. So I've never believe that like a player on spec would opt out. I was like, well, he would maybe know. And so when Draymond opted out, I was like, well, he's got to be operating with some knowledge ' what it seems like is that he was operating with the knowledge LeBron was not going back to the Lakers N that LeBron was for sure going to the wararriors. And this is one of the things that has sort of emerged people who've been around the broad and I haven't talked to anybody for a couple of days here, It's been the holidays. so I may be a little bit lagged in information People who've been hanging out with LeBron recently who I've talked to, they're like, yeah, he's not really saying what he's doing. And that Jibes with previous times where he's done this where he's not like sort of showing his hands to even people pretty close to him. So I definitely think Draymond opts out because he thinks there's a reasonable chance he could go with the he go with the warriors. So I think they're absolutely on the books. I'm not sure about Philly because I'm not sure how that fit is with those other guys. Obviously, if he goes there, it's an abundance of talent R. And like you're like, well just figure it out. And like, you know, when has LeBron not made a team that he's been around better? L you could see it Um, I'm not sure like I know Rich said the Philly was there. I'm not sure that like It makes a ton of sense, but again, he could just say, I'm going to be happy there. Right. And so it does like honestly, like he doesn't fit tremendously with Harden and Donovan Um, by You're like, it's LeBron James. He's this incredible player with this incredible talent. Like he'll figure it out. So yeah, if he if he picks Philly, I would be surprised, but You know, let's put it this way. Philly As soon as they got the Jailin deal like done They immediately reached out They're going for it. like they made their pitch. they've reached out, they did it. I talked to people in Philly You know, I'm like What do you think? And they're like We're afraid it's Cleveland. Ebody Everybody I talk to is like well, we're afraid it's Cleveland. Nobody seems like they have optimism. My whiteboard for the Philly part of it is LeBron thinkink then this you you obviously know I've never met the guy don't know how he thinks, but LeBron watching the Kicks break their drought and everyone loving that team so much. There's probably a small part of them is like, hey, there could be a sliding doors where I had gone to New York back in the day Philly's the the next story Phill' forty three years Philly's crazy passionate That might be the next story. He could be like Hey I'm the champion of this city. Like if he went to Philly and they won a title this year. He is a king in Philly forever Even if they just went to the conference finals, it would be a huge step forward for that. It would be like a smashing success season. No, that's He did it from Cleveland, obviously. Yeahah. Yeah. They can't I can't take that off the table. Yeah. What about Minnesota? kind of the same thing. Yeah, Minnesota. Like you go to Minnesota, you win you win a sports title a min. What was the last time the twins? Yeah the last one they had inycket? No, the The links Yeah. have. Yeah, I forgot about them. Yeah. But yeah, I could see, I mean, that roster is It feels like it would be a really, really strong one with LeBron I mean, I think LeBron with Annt Edwards would be amazing. I don't know how LeBron would do with LMello. L I think that I think LMello hoisting up thirty five footers in transition with eighteen on the clock He might look side eye a side eye at that. Maybe he likes a little bit of crazy though. He liked having JR. Smith on the team for a while Trust me. He's definitely had some guys who were crazy on his teams over the years. Listen, again, if you look me straight in the eye and say I want to play with Anne Edwards, that that will be happiness. like I ain't trying to talk you out of that. I think that up. I mean, I think Anne Edwards is one of the most amazing players in the league. I've gotten to know him a little bit covering team USA. LeBron was there with team USA. so many things were fascinating about the twenty four. I mean, Nimbi was on that team too. as long as we're going to talk about that. But there were so many fascinating things about Tam USA. One of the things about Tam USA, we haven't even talked about Miami yet is how LeBron and Ericspolstra I don't want to use the word bonded because Spolstra is like a robot and I'm not sure I'm not sure how emotions are with players you know, like I've seen Spo with his kids and he's like a great father. I've seen Spo with with players and he's like locked in like a robot. I don't I don't know But like LeBron and Spo were like attached at the hip and like pouring hours in working with each other on Team USA. likeike their relationship completely evolved in a new way with Team USA. so Like that's the thing. L you can create cases for all. all of these scenarios and I can't rule them out. I do think Cleveland is where There's definitely a feel in the league like oh, it's gott to be Cleveland. It's got to Cveland But I don't think people are talking with knowledge. I think people are talking about vibes. Right. And that would be the best storybook ending for his career and just finishing it, especially now, you know, the documentary being filmed like let me say something about Yeah Lebron has had cameras around him consistently for at least a decade now Is it possible that he would have an uptick in cameras for this last year Yes And is it possible that he would, you know some permission from the league to have a little bit more than he was previously allowed Yes But the idea that LeBron having cameras around him was an indication of something. I'm sorry, that I just Reject. I mean, he was on the Netflix show a couple of years ago where he had heavy cameras around him a lot of times and he is playing more and more years. So u He probably has ten thousand hours. I mean I remember going to see Bronnie play as a high school freshman. And there was a documentary crew following Bronnie as a freshman. I remember going out to the the parking lot to leave the game and there was Soundman and two cameras watching Bronnie get into the car to go home for a nond descript non league game on a Tuesday in December So like just having cameras around is not like that is not a change in the James when the James worldld. Okay. So I'm going to do a Windy fingers for you If LeBron always has cameras around Why hasn't he posted any footage of all these predictions he gets correct Right We should probably have some footage of him saying o Oh, yeah, Kobe's about to score eighty one I can vouch for times when I've seen and heard LeBron make some predictions But like this is a problem. I was just talking about this the other day Um I and positing and you guys can tell me you think I'm wrong. I believe that LeBron James has given more interviews and has been on the record for more hours anyone in modern American history Okay. Damn. Because when you think about And I actually want to say American history But like when you think about twenty because because going back to high school, you think about twenty five years. of Multiple hundreds of hours multiple hundreds of interviews a year for twenty five years, plus. All of the podcasts Plus The television shows Um Plus the social media I don't think that there's more in the public sphere on the record comments anyone in modern American history. And so therefore If you searched it like in mass, you could find proof of just about any point. Right President Trump will be my only one. So you say that What was Trump doing three two hundred interviews a year from two thousand three to twenty. was the apprentice. He was doing the apprentice Yeah. He was doing the apprentice. He's eighty. so he's obviously he had like what a forty year head start on Le Bron Are you saying just in the last twenty years? Well, LeBron's life, you know, Yeah. How would you put it in the public sphere for twenty five years. The big two, LeBron Dave Portnoy. Yeah, Dave the two would be up there. Yeah. He would Listen Like It's possible It's possible. Yeah, but that's a good point though. It's it's a kind of a crazy thing to think about. And when you consider all of the hours of Gameplay, right? And all of the hours that he has generated and people talking about him or reviewing him like we're doing right now. I would again, make the case that he may be one of the largest content creators in the information age. Yeah, I think that's probably fair. The amount of the amount of like yeah, podcasts and dis discussion just hours of us watching. Yeah you're living proof not not that the LeBron major career, but you you moved to Miami and they start you guys started what was it called The heat index. The heat index, right? like you got that branding. a good brand. That's good branding. But yeah, you guys like and guess what It was a smart move by ESBM because everyone wanted to hear about it. Yeah. Right. So I'm just saying like you could almost find evidence to prove any point as a point where like Thee Bron claims to have made a lot of predictions. Of course, there are emmptying examples where it looks like he's stretching the truth However There are also examples where he was right Yeah about Th is what I'm saying What about this rival league that LeBron and I think it was it Maverick Carter? that they're in Kahootsong. It's called the B project. And I know that for a long time they were saying it was going to be men's basketball leeague and women's basketball then for a while it was just like a rival to the W NBA. But then I read a couple months ago that they're trying to get back in to become a rival league to the NBA as well and possibly as a landing spot for older players to extend their career How is this going to factor in to the end of LeBron James NBA career. as he's thinking about maybe starting a league that will rival, you know, his old his old employer Very, very, very good question. Good question. Ver very very, very good question. He's trying to fire you up because you broke your heart body There's a Serbian agent Mishko, who's Yokich's agent And a lot of what we know because Maverick has not really really talked on the record about it and the folks who were involved with it I tried I I tried to get on the record and really couldn't get them to reply to me. They were not interested in talking about it. so Um Misco went on a Serbian podcast and talked about it in Serbian. I had it translated and like verified the translation. And in that podcast, you know, he talked about meeting LeBron and Maverick on a yacht in the Mediterranean and they discussed Um, I basasically creating a rival league to the NBA U and then two things have happened and I can't For sure. say that this is related. but two things happen because the under the belief and understanding was that There was going to be some Saudi backing LeBron has ties in Saudi Arabia. He is u he has visited Saudi Arabia as a guest of the of the royal family and the the Saudis the PIF, the public fund of Saudi Arabia U they own a league where this's I believe it's electric boat racing and LeBron owns, you know, owns a team in that league. He has business develop developing business with the Saudis. This is public information. This is not like anything that's like, you know, it was all announced and stuff like that. He when he, it was in newspapers in Saudi, he was on social media with members of the royal family when he visited Saudi Arabia, none of this is is new information. but he was He was sllowly but surely like developing his relationship with the Saudis and then there was like the possibility of this league forming and Nobody for sure knew it might be Saudi money, but In the wake of Liv, people speculated that the Saudis could be backing LeBron with this league And the idea was that you wouldn't have to kind of like live golf. You would play a world tour. where you wouldn't have to play as much and you could potentially make more money And then a couple of things happen. One Um NBA Europe started and the Saudis, I think, were at least in some level interested in investing in NBA Europe. And so And by the way, again, Nicho, the agent is on the record in this podcast saying this is what they did. This is again quoting him, I'm not I don't have hard report. I can only know what he said on a public podcast in Serbia Um The NBA Europe begin Um the U Saudi, So liiv Golf basically failed U and the Saudi Arabia entered a war And where they're now focused on buying drones and the PIF is cutting back funding other funding of sports sort of across the board. So When the women's League started, there didn't start with the men's League and it's there there's a Saudi company operating it or helping it with events, but it doesn't It's not one hundred percent clear that there's actually Saudi money in it So for a time, it looked like it may be something was you know, could blossom into a live It hasn't someome of the players who were thought to be guys who might be plucked off. likeike some people speculated that that would be Luca. would maybe go or Yokich would maybe go. Well, Luas signed a contract extension and now LeBron looks like he's going to has announced he's playing another year into age forty two. So It was sort of hazy what was going to happen there. Um, but There's been no indication. andm and I wish I had more. But there's been no indication that that is going forward, notot that it couldn't at some point. Okay. That's interesting stuff though. likeike the fact that he as as a player in the NBA at one time was plotting to start a rival league to the So said that agent Yeah Um You know, LeBron never said that. just to be clear. R All right, Wendy, last couple of questions. What team should we be looking out for? I know, you know, free agency already started. We've got a lot of moves already happening. Is there one team that you're like, Hey, what's going on there? Qestion. I mean, u Uh, so I would just say like The Utah jazz U They were like way better than what their record was, like they were doing all kinds of maneuvers to lose And like I think their team might actually kind of be good U and Uh Darren Peterson got off. he, you know, you know over react to Summer Leue, but he had he lookk a nice start to Summer League and And they let Walker Kessler go. And so now they have like all this ammunition to make trades. And I really think that they kind of won like win immediately So like they're going to have Laowry Market in And and Jaron Jackson And and Darren Peterson and Ace Bailey and Chiante George and like a ton of c space And Trade assets Um Cade exceptions like The Utah jazz are and like, you know, they're just sort of existing. like no one's pay attention to them in years I think they are like They potentially were like a I don't know how many wins they had this year, like twenty five wins or twenty eight wins or something like that. But I think really they were like probably like a thirty eight win team and like I think they're going to maybe get like Way better, way fast And so Utah is a team that I am going to be watching this season. Okay. All right. Whatever that's worth you. I like that. All right. And then last question, roback question, RHO BAK dot com promo. L their stuff. Just order. Yes Like they have these hoodies. I love to fly in them. Yes. and they're very lightweight because you know, airplanes are cold, big cat. Y. And so you want to have something that's lightweight but has a hoodie on it. I love this. I just got some paid for with my own money, did not receive anything free. I'm telling you, I wear them to fly. I don't know what it's called tech something or other. Yeah lightightweight Hy Myike Cie for summer. Next time putting in promo code take twenty percent of first purchase. Yeah they great polos, great, great hoodies, great shorts, everything. I love Wendy that you have the sweatshirts and speaking of Robback pumped to see our guy Jamis Winston invested in Rowback along with two hundred plus other athletes. we love Robak. we love Jamis. Conggrats guys. Zach You got us a question And Wendy, thank you as always. You're always so gracious with your time. Thanks for having. I texted Wendy on I think fourth of July I was like, Hey can come on Sundayight, talk free agency? He's, Yeahah, absolutely The absolute best about the donuts. That is tr Mps. Yes Yes. Yes. and I just got gotten back from taking my kids to get them. Zach, go ahead. How you doing today, sir? I did have a quick question regarding the trade deadline Do you think Nicola gets Oh, okay, sorry. Oh my the trade Okay. my bad never mind. I'm gonna No, no, go for it. All right, another question. No trade tal to the trade deadline? No, I was just one in February. No, I'm just kind of curious if we think Yogi iss gonna to get tradeed at all. Okay, that was okay That was my fault. That wass a good question Andpe what He calls me, sir, like respects my opinion. Yeah, I just see that respects my expertise. As ask a question and when it's because I respect your expertise so much that I expected better from you. Yeah. Ask a question again, that's my fault, Zack. I shouldn't have I thought you got free agency and trade deadline That's clearly understandable. I was just kind of curious do you think he's going to get traded? And If if so, what the pulse is on that? if you have any kind of like what you're thinking? Well, naturally, I've asked this question because, you know, Yokich could have extended last year And it was like, no, no, no, he doesn't it does there's no's no stress, nothing to worry about. Um, he'll going to he'll extend next year. And so it's now next year Now like nobody is really extended. like, you know, None of like the young guys have extended, you know whenen Benyama hasn't extended, right? Like So, u I'm not like getting you know, I'm not getting all interested in that on july fifth Um I will say that like if if Yokich does not extend He can be a free agent next year. And if he reaches a point where he says I'm not extending. there is not a reasonable reason not to extend. The financial I guess in theory he could get an extra year. I mean, in theory, you could wait to extend until you're thirty eight and extend for five years and just say, well, I got an extra year But he is now going into the last guaranteed year of his contract. He has a player option or whatever If you could Now now the nuggets are like He's, you know, he is on the record is saying, I'm a nugget for life U the nuggets are not stressed about it, like they're operating in their business, like they're not the only thing. But if Yokich enters the season having not extended That will become a significant storyline. Will it become like LeBron twenty ten I don't think so because again, he has said on the record, I'm a nugget for life. It is absolutely something that is on the board to keep an eye on if he does not extend his contract because the nuggets are a team that's bumping up against a second apron and are losing players and are in danger of losing more players and had obviously a disappointing end to this last season Arguably you could say disappointing under three straight seasons because You know, if you look at that run where they had two game seven losses, one to Minnesota, one to Oklahoma City and they won the title. You could argue thatith in that three year span that they had One championship out of three years was the worst possible outcome. Like as good as they were and as powerful as they were. that they probably should have at least gotten back to another finals and maybe won a second one And so now, performance is going downhill and their spending is going downhill. or not spending, but they're losing players because all their players have gotten more expensive. So yeah, they are definitely on the watch list and that's one of the reasons why they would be an amazing team for LeBron because There' I think the Nuggets would be in some ways the most interesting team. Of course, I am from Cleveland and you know My family are waiting, you know, with babid breath for LeBron's decision. And like, you know, Bron going back to Cleveland is is extremely enriching for many people that I know And I have such a history there or whatever. But from a straight Um, you know, focused on like you know, in a vacuum twenty, twenty six, twenty seven season If LeBras went to Denver and brought that level of talent to a team that is wheezing under the weight of its salaries brought that influx, it would be in incredible and seeing LeBron and Yokage play together would be potentially like once in a generation type by the way, Cry and Le Bron would be the same L it's not just Yokage, but short of the short of the nuggets pulling the sword from the stone in that type of in that type of transaction, I don't know if they're going to be able to bring the same team back. So I don't know if they're going to be better. So yes, absolutely Zach. We are watching it, but like the nuggets are not you know, According them, are not stressing it.ood question Eactly. In instead of asking you where LeBron iss going to go, do you have any idea on the time frrame? It sounds like they were not doing it this weekend. I know there was like this big internetom, obbviously the weekend's over, but there was like this big internet rumor where he was announcing it today or whatever U and I never believe that. Sove I've asked a question obviously and I've gotten like a series of different Days like, oh, it could be midwek. it could be the week later So I don't have a good answer. Trust me, I've asked I just knew it was not going to be this weekend. All All right, Well, Wendy, thank you Wendy. You are the best. Thank you the starter of the country clubs in Akron. Yeah and find out what day he does not have a tea time in the next week and that would be like if I was really intrepid, that's what I like that.'s good move. We'll get on that. That's a good movie. I'll see you I' see a courts side feet on the wood at a whiz game It's going be great. And by the way, I It's the league is better when the wizards are good. My? I've always said that. Yeah. two thousand five to two thousand eight Three straight years, calves, wizards every year in April in the playoffs, cherry blossoms are out Fun Street. R remember they would close off the arena. Y. They would close off the street next to the arena. eighth, eighth, I think it was eighth and they would call it funun Street and they would have everybody out there. Go goo bands. Yeah. You know, well Soldier boy sitting courtside. Y. Gilbert Ana hitting thirty footers like These are core memories for me. Deh Stevenson to Seaun Stevenson with Abraham Lincoln on his that Like these it would be awesome to see the wizards be relevant again. I am not I am pro wizard. Okay. All right, we'll see you there. Yeah. All right. Thank you, Wendy. You're the best. guys, Have a great week Okay boys, off to Tahoe Chill week Next you see us. Lake Taho and behind us Maximum chill. Maximum chill doing some awesome interviews Jo week is usually sneaky one of the most busy weeks that we do. Pump fake chill, Pump fake chill,ome great interviews coming out. Great guests And should be niceer Good weather Ms are unbeliev. Watch out for the bears out there, Zach. Look forward to the onions Lots of bears. He's not talking about Urlacer, but Urlacer might fuck you up too. But no.t no smoke with with Urlacer. There's a lot of bears out there. like physical bears. We gotta get weapons. Hey, you got I gotta get my cheeseburers. I gotta get going. What's your preferred cook? No pink, A little pink? Medium So Big cat came over to my place for fourourth of July and I was grilling out and I made some burgers and I was walking through the house checking on people I pass my big cat. I go, Hey, bigig cat, did you get any burgers seat And he goes, Yeah, I had three. and I was like, oh that's And then I stopped. I was like, wait, what? you had three? I was a little ashamed of it because it was it was a fun party. There was kids, there was people and I ate off, Ie my three burgers each one in a different location because I was like I didn't want to like there's There's probably like fifteen people from that party would be like, Oh I sat with him for a burger because I was just like kept like I ate one with the kids. I ate one with just more some adults then I went to the table because I was like I can't sit and just have three cheeseburgers in front of people. And then I hate some steak too. Yeah, but every room you're going through it's like different group people saying, Ohh, that must be his first. Yeah, right. I was just trying to hide. I was a little ashamed of it, which I shouldn't be I'm gonna go with fifty. let's go through thirty. There seven eighty six. A ninety nine Thty one Yeah. You didn't get it. You want do one more birthday. Semore. thirty. Sem more. I's go fifty again Hero. o Happy birthday to George W. Bush. Happy birthday to Dolly the Sheep You got cloneed, your ass got cloneed, maybe not even a birthday, Hppy clone day to dolly the sheep. Happy birthday Dign, Williamson Maybe ease up on the cake And happppy birthday to the goat Nancy Reagan. She would have dominated the Nathan's hot doog contest All I peacha