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It was just like claustrophobic Everyone jammed in, couldn't move. but that said The next fans that were there having a great time That will be a day that you will I was going to say never forget. You probably a lot of them probably will forget it. from alcohol But it's going to be a similinal moment in your life and it looked awesome for them. Listen, I get the idea of the where you're talking about the train station, that part where everyone was just stuck underground for like thirty minutes because they couldn't There's just a log jam of humans. Those things That would suck I think when you go to a parade like this, you're basically saying fuck it. It's going to suck at some points getting in and out But we're going to have the best time ever. And what from what I saw, I saw a torque battle where a woman pushed another woman off of a lamp post and then torerked right in her face Uh Jayen Brunson, had a great quote and a great He was just walking I think it was down Broadway with the Larry O'Brien trophy literally the King of New York, probably the coolest moment that or the coolest anyone's ever looked just walking being like, this is all mine. But his quote There are a lot of people have a lot of opinions, but when you prove them wrong, you don't have to say shit to them Nah, they don't deserve it. Thank you. I love that. He could have just could been like, you know, Philadelphia Eagles parade where it's like calling out all the haters orr you know, sometimes these parades like all these people didn't believe in us. I think the chiefs did that. They called out Stehen Say a few years ago He's like, Yeahah, Becky Hammond, all these people I don't care I'm not even going to say your name. I'm not going to give you a name check because that just helps you that elevates you I proved you wrong. I have Larry O'Brien. S see you later. Yeah. I thought that the speeches were awesome. The players looked so happy. They were hammered. Jose Alvarado, grand Theft Alvarado on top of the the truck rarapping to fifty cent. L looked like the best time he's from New York and that's like That seems like pinnacle New Yorker right there. It cannot get any better. That is final boss you've conquered him congratulations to him. I think Tyler Kolick getting detained by the police because they didn't believe that he was actually on the team. Yeah was a very funny sight too. He was just like he was running down a barrier, high fiving everybody along the edge wearing a baseball hat Wearing a wearing a baggy t shirt honestly looked kind of like a Barcelow spports employee. And the two cops that were there went up to him they grabbed and theyre like, hey, what are you doing here? he had to be like, No, I really am on the team. Yeah he say he tweeted after said. I swear'm on the team, bro. We had Mitchell Robinson's trucks. I love that they actually got one of his trucks in the pro Yeah That fucking around. Mcaail Bridgees dog U we got a somewhere somewhere Peter Herb Street is like, what the fuck? Why did' I get invited? We got a new banner for you. Yes. So the so the day did was not a great start for City haall and and the parade because they put up a banner. who whoo was it for It was Dylan Jones Dylan Jones number thirty three forer wizard. And you probably are saying to yourself number thirty three in the New York Kicks Isn't that Patrick Ewings number? Yes, it was Patrick Ewings number. It is retired. And they put Guys are getting rings were on the Ns at some point this year and Dylan Jones thirty three who I did even play? playay for's two a contract. He's a two a contract. Tough start. I do want that banner Uh so Mumani hit hit us up. Let us know will'll take that banner But yeah, it looked It was euphoric. I mean the streets were absolutely packed. I saw the guy trying to Uber eats delivery guy trying to deliver his chick fil A shout out to that guy. There was two of them. hero. They had like probably six stacks of chick filt boxes, but I saw that I was like, that's pretty impressive. Then I realized that Brandon Walker still has his auto order Yeah for every day for lunch. Y and they was just going to the office. Did you guys see the guy who I think he was having some type of medical emergency and a woman saved his life and then he immediately went Sandlot and tried to make out with her? I did see that. And it was it was funny and then I saw the look on the guy' face and I was like, I hope this guy's okay. Yeah. I hope he's all right. But that's his last moments on eararth But it was it was went out trying. It was as big of a mess and chaotic as we thought it would be. Uh Mes was there. Should we call Memes real quick? Let Let's call. Let's see let's see if Memes looked like he had the best setup. I know it was right next to the E. Everything. He was like front row, then he was right next to the stage with the confetti. didid he get a hookup somehow? I don't know. I hope he's so drunk. Oh no. And also Biggest story Mister Bing Bong is back after day retirement That's true. mis. Bing Bong is back, Hank Is he back? Well, he said Mr. Bing Bong's back for the parade You think it was just a he was back for just a moment He's a m Yeah. No, he said he's back. He said the police officer whispered in his head. I mean he is the biggest flip flopper. likeike if he gets one comed he flip flops and then he gets another he flip flops back. No, he said here's he has Here's a quote Absolutely Jerry No willpower whatsoever. He kind of like what you do with Lty righty. Oh no I'm's not a de. That's not what bigig Cat said Hm. Yeah, I saw you hit a shot, Ry. Yeah. I took one, but every round simulator hit a couple of Ry. Every round that I play is lefty except for the one shot That wasn't around. Okay I just wanted to fight on behalf of B. Jerry says getet on the cuckboat, Hankie Mr. Bing Pong is stronger than ever. tweeted it out. yeah with a picture of him in the streets of N. So he's back So RIP the death of Mr. Bing Bong june sixteenth, twenty twenty six through june seventeenth, twenty twenty six. He' probably back Are you shaking in your boots? You should be. You shaking your boots? Are your toots shaking? L Gomas's tooties are shakaking? Ify Gomas has some nice boots, Hank She was devastated by whooa aboutout losing Mis. Bing Bong. Yeah I can't take Max seriously when he wears visor What's wrong with my vvisor? D' a great great visor, butisor. you are It's just very it's a very funny look. It's great visor. Hankates Hank also hated this visor tell me. He said he's like Hank Hankates soccer. We're going to get to that in a second. Yeah. All right. let me call memes. let's see real quick. I hope he's just so so hammered He's what do you think Oh Mmes. We're taping the show right now. Give us your quick recap of the parade Re Kevin Fraid, I'm fucked up. I'm in the subway right now George Where are you getting a Six inch meatball Six inch feball We're going to ri Karaoke right now. Awesome.astic. That's a great choice. That's an awesome choice. choice. Me are you gonna to do Alicia Keys Okay, could better, yeah. All right. A couple great choices for memes right now. Finest American band. What's happening now I think when he said he was in a subway, I think you took that a sandwich. I think I was making m. J Mas. what you make I found was serious. Okay Just to clarify, it it's the it's the subway with the train cars not the sandwiches, right Okay, All right. I'm actually a little confused.. All right, so so Mmes, how did you get such great spots everywhere you went just we just knew a guy. Oh hell yes Was a security guard Mike No, it was a different guy. Okay. what to say RTMu guy security RI Yeah ye sh out. So you had the best day ever, Mmes I go rip some karaoke All right. All right, seeee I love y you. Oh man, he sounds like he's having a great time, Max. Goddamn, dude. comeome on manax. I know That was. How you how can you listen to this show and not understand that This happens to me every now and then everyvery now and again, it you just completely Maybe your visor's too tight. It's cut circulation your brain. I think it maybe maybe had some brains in in your belly fat that you lost recently Oh I'll take that that's a compliment. I wouldent. I would love to get rid of some brain cells if it meant to get rid of some fats cell. skinny and dumb Yeah. turn into a memberate In inccredible scenes though. I mean, I I think that I would have preferred if I were there and a Nick fan. I I'd prefer to maybe be in a building be able to watch everything. Yeah, but s down sing down with But like I said, you know, it's almost like when you when you know you have like a long travel day and you have like a couple layovers or whatever You say, Hey, you know what? this is going to suck. I'm going to put my head down. parts of is going to suck, but we're put our head down get through it. the getting on and off the subway getting to and from the parade that part's going to suck Everything else, you just don't care because you're drunk and you're having the best time ever and it looked like incredible, euphoric, everything. New York showed out. And I think the fact that we're not Nicks fans is probably a pretty big reason why we wouldn't like to do that. But if you are a Nicks fans like every interaction you're having that day is probably a good one. Yeah Probably like, yes, this is awesome. I'm around the I'm around my people, right? In fact, I heard one person that's on the ground there saying that Um People are just looking each other in the eye on the street and just saying champion to each other like the New York the Jeep wave of New Yorkersice. It sounds like it's a real thing that's happening according to the source that's on the ground. Champion. We did you guys see I think O Bosco is the source on the ground? Oh, wow. saying my favorite part of winning is people just looking at you and saying champion.e That must happen a lot. happens all the time. The we had I think Carmela Soprano was on a boat Bobby Bacala, I saw. Mike Breen. by the way, Mike Breen, I don't know if he was specifically talking about us, but he did confirm to both Jimmy Turanna and I think it was Craig Carton show that he was going to do a triple bang if Brunson had hit that three in game four. quote used with Craig Carton was something like became a thing because those two those two knuckleheads that I talked to. couple of knuckleheads. Yeah. Yeah. I listen, that is an incredible compliment if Mike Breen. He doesn't have to know who we are, what the show is. But if he's like, yeah, those two knuckleheads, I'm like, thank you, Mike Breen. I love you. The fact that he was going to send out a triple bang to some knuckleheads is that's pretty cool. And I believe him because he said he that's why he went triple. It's good. Yep. And then I saw I saw a lot of replays recently of that three pointer that Bronson took that led to the OG tip in and it looks like Wimby got a fingertip on it. making the shot fall short making OG be able to run in there and tip it in. the soft land It is really just man. This is going to be NBA finals that we talk about, I feel like for decades. Yeah. I really do. Hank. what do you think? I agree. think so. I think you guys are prisoners of the moment. You'll say this next year two Nah. I don't think so. I think this is this is it. No, I have seen some New York Kicks fans saying that this championship for them feels like three or four for another franchise just because of how much it means to the city and how long they've waited for it. What do you think about that, Hank I mean, good for them, that's fine. It was one championship. But it feels like more Definitely feels like It feels like the biggest one. out of that run where we've got like a new champion every year. It probably feels like the biggest one Max, what would you give to them Um, I I don't know how I'm supposed to answer this quest. Okay. he's still stuck on the subway thing. it's still got him No, because I've had championships too. so No, and the graphic that shows like the last NBA champions and Oh you know, how many years has been since we've had a repeat? Eight in a row. eightight in a row. This one does feel very memorable, especially I mean, if you're comparing The celebrations between Nicks fans compared to the celebrations between Celtics fans when they won. I wasn't directly, but now that you're bringing it up I'm inclined to agree. There's probably a little bit of parade fatigue in Boston No. I mean, Hanks said himself, he was like, I couldn't really get that excited What You were killing them and you guys just you guys went viral for the worst were We were up by forty. We had been celebrating the whole game Yeah, you couldn't even get that excited for the final whistle Okay, because I think that New York again, my gu this is Wipe off the whiteboard. Yeah. We've gone zero days since making the next championship by the Celtics. New York. I didn't do that. I'm just saying that New York they have been thirsty for a championship. They've been starving for a championship and they got it. So they're going to celebrate a while. Boston, on the other hand, it does feel like they like it's like every year Oh, I got to go to another parade again. Okaykay. I guess I'll buy my tick. Okay, I guess we'll cue the duck and another. Bub,ah hear you with the, bu, bl,ah,ah Should we talk about the other big news in the NBA Tay young Yeah, Max has actually been looking forward to talking about this more than I have. He was mad that we weren't able to talk about I said save it for the show at like ten thirty this morning and he's been angry that he hasn't been able to talk about it since I don't really know. So Tre young opted out of his deal Yeah. I declined his his forty eight point nine seven million dollars player option for the twenty twenty six twenty seven season He is technically going to become a free agent on Monday. I would assume this is just him resigning a different deal with the wizards. Rumors of try looking elsewhere have been described by sources as nonsense. okay I'm just I'm just reading the reports. I know it's foreign for some people in this room and on this podcast player would want to come back to your team after not having a contract That's what Tres Tray just went on the pivot or whatever that podcast was like three days ago and talked about how The wizards could be a one scene. No one's talking about it I'm pretty sure Te Youong is going to leave Technically and free he's going to become a free agent Then he's going to sign like a three year deal for a lower average annual value than forty eight point nine seven So he wants to stick around And maybe listen We just saw with the New York next day with Jyn Brunson taking a paycut He's going to lower his average annual salary that we can build around. So we we can develop a good team around and makeank. What do you think about that? That's interesting We all agree though it would be so funny if you went somewhere else I don't think I't think's going to the wizards are a front runner. I don't think he did not say that the wizards I't think he'd be that funny if he went somewhere else. I would I disagree with that too. Okay. It would be hilarious if you went somewhere el. I disagree. It would be. The funniest if you went somewhere else after we made an Instagram account called Dwizzler about how excited we are for this new core of the Wizards before you you even get to that point Yeah The guy is gone. First of all first of all, Dad, it's TikTok Not Instagram. Sorry, I'm sorry. Second of all, Brian Winhorse says that he's going to resign. So how about that Wendy Scott Sour. Bret Siegel says it's nonsense that he's look. this was completely expected. I knew this was coming. you guys have apparently never paid attention to an NBA offseason in your lives. if you don't know how this type of thing works. He was always going to opt out. He's always going to come back. He knows the wizards are building something. He wants to be part of a special future with a special franchise with special people and to do that and to make room for more special people He needs to take a slight pay cut Come back longer longery pay cut. I big question You said you always knew this was going to happen. Could you pull a PFDs tweet of when this first got announced? Yeah, please do Z. I would love to see that, Zack. This doesn't seem like a quote of someone who always knew this was going to happen. is this or not? I think it does. Keep going This may hit This might Keep going rightight there. Go back up. Is could you read that? If you love something, set it free If it comes back It's yours. If it doesn't It never was. That actually makes perfect sense. Thank you for bringing that up, Max. Oh, that is a kid that is like I want because I'm on I'm on team It would be very funny if Treang wentwere else. I want so badly to agree with the guy whose visor is I think at this point becoming a medical emergency to what it's doing for to his brain right. Max, That quote makes. pererfect sense for this situation. Thank you. Thank you. it could be It could be a more perfect question. What are you doing, dude? B? We're letting him go. He's becoming a free agent and then he's going to come back to us. Yes. If it comes back, it's yours If it doesn't, it never was Right. Yes, correct. He's going to come back. But that is a quote that you that you said heard that that he lo something that is Yeah, but yes, but that is not a that is someone who is preparing for the possibility that he does not come back hundred percent But if he doesn't, it never was. Max, he's com that is going that is not what he said was I always knew this was going to happen. No it's cra. This was never a worry. That is not a quote. that is a that is that is not a worry. Look at, lookook at you, emotional. The wizards live rent free inside your head. H it's here R free Rnt free. I am right in theet in on the w doesn't it never was is not a I knew that I knew that this was going to happen. I have no worries that he's going to come back. You know what's honestly pathetic about this whole thing It's pathetic That I'm right. You're trying to insist that I'm wrong when this entire time you could be bringing up the fact that Alex Sarr broke his foot, but but you haven't That's that's where you should be if you that if you have think if you weren't wearing a tight visor that was cutting off your brain. You would bring that up by now, but you haven't Tun's all you got F Fredie young's mine, he's going anywhere. Well, not right now. Not right now. Not right now right now. Right right now, he's techn not yours. Technically he is not right yours He is he's ours. No, no. no no he's a free agent. right now he's not yours. I thought he became a free agent on Monday Okay, I guess right. Okay. All right, there we go. Oh, PFTs right again. What else is new? knocking him down Get your facts straight if you wantan to talk about the wizard's bititch. do it I want you to quote' stand back. Learn ball, learearn contracts He's going to be back. everythingthing will be fine We're going to become the next rival to the Kicks. We're probably going to win a championship in the next five years. We're going to have a better parade Hank, you got toa get involved here. You're killing me. Heank's out. How The que makes perfect The quote does not make perfect sense The quote does not make perfect sense for someone who is completely expecting this person to come back You do not say that quote if you're like, oh, this is a this is a nothing thing. You do not say that quote if you think that he's gone I think no, but you're opening up the possibility for him to be gone. I think the quote makes perfect sense. If you want to make the argument that the PFT maybe didn't know that he was going to opt out, I could buy that might not be you might not have known these opt out. He's been giving quotes this entire offseason about how he's looking forward to building something for the future in DC So when you first saw the opt out, we were a little bit nervous for like a brief second. It's more about like all the tags I was getting Yeah in the span of about fifteen seconds of Twitter where it was like, oh shit something's going on what happened And then I saw a big graphic of Treayy Young on it And then I had to zoom in and read the dialogue And then I had to search his name to find out what was actually going on and then consult with experts with experts in the field before I jump to conclusions And yeah, he'll be back And it's all good. And my season tickets or If anything, increase in value So I'm not worried about that either Okay, so we're officially not worried. Not worried. I am not worried about Trey Young but print it. but it sure sounds like maxes Max might be a little worried about Tray. I just I just I just want the funny I just want funny outcomes. I just want funn would be the funniest outces. I just want I'm just rooting for funny. S Sorry I'm a fan of comedy over here. Yeah. It actually the funniest would be if Anthony Davis is like, I only wanted to play with Trey Young. I also want a Treay That also would be funny. All of these things would be funny. Kep your eye on what the Whiz do. Everything's on the table in the next week or so We could make some moves, could make it other trade. could make a draft pen Yeah, it's definitely going to make ao. So I think we don't know. Yeah. anything could happen. In all seriousness, where I think this stems from is the fact that the wizards have been completely irrelevant and their front office has been a joke for the last thirty, forty years U which is fair and it's fair to judge them off a lot of stuff that they' done So they see something like that and they think, Oh yeah, it's just the wizards like they're just basically a parking lot for bad contracts And then As soon as those bad contracts are done, The wizards will gladly give up their players and whatever assets they have to other teams in the league just for the greater good of the actual franchises that have good front offices where the wizards are just like, yeah, you know what? we'll talk to the wizard. We'll just we'll trade our fifteenth overall pick for their fourth overall pick and the wizards will do it because That's the right thing to do and they only serve to make us better because we're a real team and they're not Those days are over. We have a competent front office, We're building something. we've been building something for the last three years Now it's about to come to fruition. m glad that we spent more time talking about the Wizards than the New York Champion Kicks and their parade U and I'm glad that we're rent free inside Max's tight little head He's got to take that thing off. it's fucking him up. Yeah. It's a good ad visor. It's a great visor.. I hate that I wasn't It's going to look like I took it off in this show, but but I didn't take it off. Yeah because you have it off No, because we take Firefest earlier and I didn't have it on for Firefest. So so yeah. So technically I gota take this do whatever we say. He took it off. Cant be honest with you, it'd be pretty funny if Okay Yeah hilar. Tay good And Nthy Davis we're just like, Yeah, we're out. Yeah.akeemot. be hilarious. All right, good, good. We're on the same page. 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Yeah because it's got guys where' right now we're taping this U the leader is minus two leader in the clubhouse minus two as well, Rory's minus one. It seems like it's a miserable experience and I love it. We've got a couple of amateurs that shot two under today which is pretty cool for them. It looks windy as fuck. They had to do a fog delay early this morning. even though as Frankie Burelli pointed out to us earlier that they have ball spotters that have the flags They go out there and they like mark the drives in case they go into the rough or whatever Apparently the USGA thought those weren't like they weren't capable of doing their job So they had to do a fog delay And I think there was some high wind that got even windier Um And and then right off the bat was it Harry Higgs They hit that shot to like twelve feet and then it rolled off the green. forty five yards away It rolled forty five yards off. crazy. And this is why we this is why we root for the course the US open. The course, as they said last year. about Oakmont They've lost the course. I love it. The course is off the chain. It's got a mind of its own You can no longer control it. I am become deeath, destroyer of Worlds is what the USGA is saying right now And it's out for blood. It's awesome to watch Bryson, by the way is two under through four headed over a way Um, But yeah, the course, this course rocks and the wind is is gnarly It's it's great. I love I love having one tournament a year. where it just truly is Like even Par wins and everyone's just struggling and it's it's just miserable. It's just fun to watch. And everybody feels like we feel when we play. Yes. that's what's that's what's really nice to watch You deserve to feel it too. Yeah, it's a lot of fun to watch. Hank, why do you hate the World Cup I don't hate Wor Cup. don't I don't do I don't Don't be afraid to say itt don't put words my mouth again. Can I just do a recap of some of the things that you've said about the World Cup over the last? The fandom of people in this most common thing I've heard from Hank is M. He said a lot of fart sounds. He's going out of town this weekend, but then and so Max invited him to the bar for the games the US men's national team game on Friday today and Hank was like, well, I'm going out of town And Max said oh, yeah, that's right. And Hank Hank followed up with Even if I wasn't, I wouldn't go Nice. just really let you know Yeah. Hey don't hey just so you know it wouldn't have happened regardless. I just and this probably is a little bit hater me, but the amount of fake soccer fans that are coming out of the woodwork in this office. Like I walked into a gameling cave, we have eight TVs in the gamling cave Four of them were on one soccerame. they didn't even have the US open on. And it was it was you're mad about the golf. Switzerland versus Bolivia Herzengota, whatever Like these teams that no one cares about and they're not even watching. They're acting like oh, this is a huge game. Let's let's lock in on this on this soccer Yeah I get rooting for USA. I get watching, you know, the the Portugals and the Argentina's sureore But to act like every game of the World Cup is let's sit down and lock in on these games It's it's it's performative. There's a lot of performative soccer fandom going on And I'm just I I'm not doing it. I think number one, we should let people enjoy things and then number two You're a company man, Hank. you appreciate things that make us money here at Barcel's C course Would it interest you to know that there's a live stream going on for that game that was specifically sold to be a branded live stream watch along for as you put it, would you say switch It wasn't I was in the game cave. There was no live stream going on. That's just false. That is one one hundred percent fault. That wasn't for that game. I was told that we had a live stream today. No. We might later, but that was that game happened Oh wait, that's the one that's going on right now. Yeah. There's no live stream. You sure Yeah I was in the cave. sitting in the cave D you sure you weren't alive I think so. I hope that he might I don't think we were San Either way, I listen I'm not the biggest soccer fan. I'm not going to pretend that I'm like the rest of the year r is it life Um, The rest of the year like I care S apologize Pty, wouldd like to apologize. for what? My second point. Yeah. Yeah, there was no live stream. Okay. But my first point stands, which is let people enjoy things. Yeah. I like watching the World Cup. I like watching sports in the middle of the day. I think it's the the The countries, the reaction videos of small countries just scoring a goal is awesome. And then my big my my favorite thing that's happened since we've last taped Messy He has always been my goat. U We're going to get into it with Raj. We also are going to get the reasoning behind Zach's Ronaldo fandom at the end of the show in Fire Fest. Messy Breaking out with a hat track to start the World Cup was incredible I love it so much. People have been saying that he's done For you Did you see the clip? There was a clip from The twenty eighteen World Cup where the announcer said It was sureirly Messi's last World Cup match and perhaps his last with his country. He'll be thirty five year olds when the next World Cup and Qatar arrives. Oh, he won that one by the way. Yeah This was in twenty eighteen. It's twenty twenty six He on on Tuesday night scored a hatchrick to open the World Cup. Exactly twenty years since his first World Cup game. He is now the tied for the lead for most World Cup goals He is my go He's so incredible. I also love this one guy who said I respect Messi's greatness. This will this will have be in the takeies I respect Messi's greatness, but I'm fully convinced he's going goaless this World Cup and Argentina are getting grouped He holds him back mark this and come back when it happens. Now this one was interesting because when he says he holds them back, That actually is happening withith Portugal and Ronaldo. Yeah. it was ugly yesterday. There was no worst two day span, I think in the history of this debate than the last few days So Ronaldo looked awful He looked angry. He looked like a diva. And if you want to talk about like holding your team back, there you can watch the replays of Ronaldo during his team's game He blames his goalie for letting in a goal like directly gets in his face like, hey, why don't you go out and catch that And then at one point, his teammate Hits a bicycle kick And then Ronaldo edate his first reaction is not to celebrate holy shit What an awesome goal. His first reaction is raaising his hand in the air and be like, Hey, that ref called you off sides though So let's not celebrate. He seems like the tricky part is like Everybody that's on that team with him grew up idolizing and worshiping Ronalda And so there's nobody in that country that's capable of saying, like Hey man, you suck now, please stop playing Even though there should be because this exact same thing happened in Qatar in twenty twenty two. Yep. So we should have known that it was happening. Oh yeah, because he actually hasn't scored a goal in over one thousand international game minutes. Yep And I think the last most recent one that he scored was a penalty k. Yeah. it's not a Penaldo. If it's not a penalty, he's not getting out of bed for it. Oh This is so great. This is one of my favorite takes. This is from Paul Watson N not the prison planet guy, but a different Paul Watson He said, I've said it before. Portugal need to organize a fake worldorld Cup for Cristiano Ronaldo during the real thing. So he believes he's playing against the Congo when all the players are actually actors genuinely think he'd fall for it. Not sure he knows who any of his teammates are anyway. He's not wrong. No, he's not wrong. No. C you imagine anybody ever saying that about Messy No Zach, you have the floor defefend your go. You know, as a Ronalo fan, you really wanted to there was a thought in the back your head, like he'll kind of He'll see his new role on the team be able to comment. Not take a back seat but kind of let other guys shine do a little bit of facilitate and not just think everything runs through him He hasn't been able to do that yet. There's another game coming up in a couple of days. mayaybe he'll be able to put that aside and and kind of maybe this is a sobering moment because you know he's seeen all of it online. You know, Messy lives run free probably in the back of his soul She a lot of back of soul Lot a lot of ball be played. Yeah, you hated to see it. You really did. Ronaldo Go but B days ahead But but maybe no, maybe not better days. maybe you thought about that like better days is. I certainly have. Yeahah. this could be he could just do Yeahah. he could never score another World Cup goal again. I'd say that's probably That's like there's a high chance Yeah. And what does what does this mean for his legacy I think we have to have legacy talk tarnished forever I wouldn't Tarnish forever, I don't know. I don't know,, I've got my new top five. Okay You know, this is what we talk about in the barbers shops, which is top five. Hey PFT, which is the top five S compers. I got my top five. Okay. Number one, messy. Unequivocally. Y. Nber two, Merada. He was my number one until Mess he won World Cup now Meridana's number two Number three, payleay. yall change the game. Number four Digi Buffon? Okay, the goalkeeper from Italy for like twenty years. Yeah. onene of the greatest ever do it. Number five, Luis Figo. one of the best midfielders of all time. Portuguese leegend. Okay, so mine is pretty similar. We have the exact same top three. I go messy. Maradana Heayway. And then my number four soccer player of all time is just going to be messy again because he's that good And my number five I am going to take Ronaldo. The Brazilianans because he was way better. Well then I've got and if he didn't get drugged before the ninety eight World Cup final, they probably would have won. That's actually a different list that I have is my top Ronaldos of all time. Yeah. numberumber one is Ronaldo from Brazil. numberumber two is Ronaldinio. Y from Brazil, number three Cristiano Ronaldo from Portugal. I did have a moment by the way that I had I think I'm I'm so transrfer portal brained by college sports now Colbia has a Louise Suarez Yeah. I was like, what the fun? You can transfer. I was like, but also the other Lis Star is like forty five now So yeah, I gotta But yeah, the World Cup has been awesome Pank I think if I think you're going to get into it a little bit. Maybe not on a US open weekend Yeah Maybe next week. It's fun. It's like It's not That This is honestly the best times to watch sports is when you don't really care It's like Yeah you just like get to root for something. and if it doesn't work out, it's like ah, whatever. And it's Yeah and yeah, it's everything around it too. Like the fans that are at the stadium right now traveled from all across the world and like they're I like the fan stuff. The fan stuff, I appreciate the true fans passion I'm not knocking You just say international fans You're knocking the It's mostly the people in this. But like the people in this offer are just having act was a joke. Well you saw me this morning, I don't know if you can see it on camera. My visor says USA soccer. and Hank looked at me and he goes, what a poser. I was like, dude, it's just a cool visor like in the moment it's fun. Yeah, Hank. wereere you saying that to people that were root for US hockey? Why not It' the same thing. It's the same But it's also one of those situations like good at hockey but but good we play not good at soc. No, but hank, you haven't watch the game. You said you didn't watch the g. We never do it. We't know. Hey, do we even make it to the sweet sixteen or whatever. He. we never get to we never get to all be on the same team We all have our own teams. then, you know, World Cup Olympics Uh that's pretty much it. Yeah. It's Wars. you know, when we just bomb everyone, that's it. We only That's the only time we get to go USA, USA. I'll be rooting for the US. this weekend the U.S. openpen Wow. us G us. All right, well let's let's talk some more soccer real quick. I Yeah, we kind of we haven't discussed one of the biggest stories of the entire off season. Oh Jacobbe Beret's holdout. Oh yeah. It's still going on. Yeah. It continues We're on Jacob because we did we did discuss it, but that was the early But we need to we need to follow up on it. Yeah because Carson Beck. Oh my God new spelling in there Who's working the who's working you think? Who do you think?'t here. that one's on me. Jacobi Berset he spelled J A K O B I E. B E R S E T T You've got and you've got no Jacobi Bersette news with that spelling. I got softball unfortunately. It from back friend. No no hits. You got how from that Softball from that Names are tricky, man, you know? Yeah It's up to the mother of birth. She can spout however she like. So what's the what's the holdout at? Where's that? I'm just saying the holdout continues. Okay, but I'm sure that there's people being like, Hey what's going on with Jacoby Perette and his his contract hold out. We got you. And for the record You have to pay Jacobbe Bsette have to. They don they don't grow Jacobbe Berssettes on trees. Correct. And now Carson Beck says that he's going to be at the facility thirteen hours a day. Okay. seizing this opportunity Loves that for him So that's where're Okay, that was our update on Jacobbe Veret We're going to talk more soccer with Roger Bennet We also have Alex Caraban who's going to get drafted in the NBA draft on Monday And then Firefest. Before we get to Roger Bennet, he's being brought to you by our great friends over at Neutrrofful Some guy's hair just doesn't perform like it used to. The move isn't a hat, it's addressing the root cause Neutrophil works from the inside out, it's backed by real credentials Neutrphal is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand. It's used by over one point five million people Neutrphil is formulas built for men at different life stages. 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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He's a great friend of the program. It is Roger Bennett. You can still go by his book. We are the World Cup on Amazon U Rog Great to see you, great to talk World Cup. But before we talk World Cup You're so big time now that you have a microphone tester Food tas there as well. Yeah. There was a nice gentleman who when we pulled up the Zoom, was sitting there in your seat And he's like we're like, you're not Roger. He's like sorry to disappoint. Can I test the mic real quick? And then you come swooping in like Ellen DeGeneres. I think I saw you slap him across the face Yeah and told him to get out Yeah, I run that off you. Yeah Congratulations. You tell you. We once interviewed James Corden long time ago when he was doing like nighttime, James Corden. m and just before, you know, he's a big football fan West Hamven fan And just before the cameras went on, were chat in all cool and then he just As we're about to campain he goes Chief. and a guy just zoomed in to the shop and goes All clear. And was like I was like, what was that man? What was that? And he goes and the guy afterwards said there was one time he was doing an interview He'd had a salad and there was a big piece of spinach in his teeth happened. And so I was like, it's your job just to go around now And just he's like that's what they do. We shout teeth. that's it. So you're not really big time, man until until he got the teeth on. Yeah you did tell don't look you in the eyes. No eye contact. I believe I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, Rog, it's great to talk to you. World Cup. We have Wld Cup fever Do you? Do you really? Oh yeah, we've been watching The game's on right now. We've had every game on. Now I'll tell you why we have World Cup fever on this show PFT and a guy who we work with who's very smart his nameed Seaan Qigly. They came up with a round roobin bet which I don't know if you're familiar with a round robin bet, but you basically bet every iteration of something and it's you bet twenty things and if two of them hit, you win a little money three of them hit and it keeps going up and up. We did that for the first games of the tournament And we bet all the draws And we had a day where there were four draws and most people would be like this sucks soccer sucks are they're tying. It was the most electric day in this office. We won so much money from all draws. They don't get it. Yeah, they don't understand the game. likeike you and I Yeah You're essentially just mitigating your own risk. Yeah Yeah if Yeah just like bet you were betting for the worst potential outcome just in case. Yeah. there you go, That's how football's truly going to catch on in America. I mean, there's many reasons to love this World Cup. It is an ultra marathon. We're all getting nipple chafing. It's a lot. four games a day is heavy tonnage. We're here in Seattle U, know where the United States are about to take the field against Australia tomorrow for a little game and knifey spoony. U It's going to be something. but ultimately the whole world cup at the end of the day Is it not just a thirty nine day U Rom compom where slowly, slowly Um Alexi Lwless is trying to win the love of Zlatin Ibberhimovich He'll break him down eventually. I'm sure because it's very funny watching that dynamic too because Zlatin's ego and Alexi's Ego are pretty much the same But one of the two, and I'll let you figure out which one is more deserved than the other. And so it's like and then God bless Honrio' just up there making faces whenever Zlatin says anything. It's amazing. And just reach point Zlotin's not even looking at Alexei Laos anymore. There's like, I'm not even going to acknowledge your presence. But this is just a romcom trope. This is just a three app play. I actually think they have planned all of this, it's all worked out. I mean Cerryon R is the greatest modern striker in the English Premier League history like every sing' the special glue of any show he's on any foootballer that comes on is immediately in know that it is Terry on me As great as he is. I actually do think he's becomome even greater as a face pull, like Yeah. he's just like if that was a gold medal event, man, he'd be Phelps. He'd be the Phelps of just on camera face pull in, But the Lala Latan thing. I mean, Trevor Noer came on our show the other night. and went in great depth about this is a Rom com t. We've seen it before and at the end of it, Satan's going to shake his hair down, take off his glasses and just be it was me all the time, Slatan. It does end up with them, you know, it does end up with them kissing. and I think it will be posossibly as beautiful and as moving as when the United States win the World Cup against Cape Verd in the final. you have to look forward' beautiful. I recently rew watchatched the two thousand two World Cup with South Korea advancing through the knockout stage. time after time. all the calls that they got. and I'm thinking, hey, that was at home for that we we could do that too now. I saw that first game And Roger I got to tell you. Yeah. I gott to tell you, my pants got real tight. Yeah when I was watching that. Yeah. That's the best by far I've ever seen this team play. and we've had some big wins before, but in terms of like a complete game and how enjoyable it was to watch that style of soccer I've never seen that before out the United States. We scored goal. We score go score go and the counter pressing that we like we turn the ball over and within two seconds just swarming the ball, winning it right back It was amazing to watch and I'm at the point now where I've said If we play like that, that team is capable of beating any team in the world. I'm not saying that we're going to or that we're going to run through because you have to, you know, win what six games in a row Yeah in USA in world second Yeah. but I think that I think that that team couldould beat any team in the world. Am I crazy to think that I don't know what to think anymore. It was erotic Yeah ye. It was aerotic. watching this team. We have seen this team in good days. when we faced up to St. Grenadiness and Vincent and we've beaten them one theyill with a goal off some of these testicle the game was more toriillin than it sounds. And we've seen bad days when we've looked at Trinidad and Tobago in the eye and they beat us never play two teams at the same time. Americ you learn. We've always been a good team. We've always had collective you know, at the best we've had like the dog in us, you know, we've been like a collective fist just guys who look like they could be hootie and the bluefish Radies, but you know, when they pull on that stonewashed denim jersey, Oh they become superheroes and become like a mid major This was I mean, this was stunning. This was like I can't quite understand where it came from. I love these footballers. This is the best individual set of footballers we've ever had They've struggled recently to find like coherence. They've've struggled against European teams. Don't look them in the eye as you said earlier. We've lost that is it nine straight to European teams? There's like a slight bakit in inferiority. This though It was I was trying to think it's like Matthew McConaughy like doing Rom com, Rom comom, Rom comom, yea,ll do Texas Changehaw massacre. Yeah, I' kind of like this level and then suddenly being like, no man I'm doing Dallas Buyers Club. This is who I am. I'm going to steal Wolf of Wall Street with my cameo. I can do whatever I want and I'll do it whenever I want. It was that kind of football. The goals were ecstatic. Yeah. you know, the team play was was transcendent And it was it was like big cat, it was like Caleb Williams was playing. Yeah. and suddenly we't fear the packers and suddenly My God, we don't fear the curse. I do fear the Maden curse. I mean, its something it does feel it feels like everything is possible, man, and it's magnificent. It was incredible to watch. I had so much fun doing it. Are we worried at all about Australia? PFT keeps telling me they're fast. I trust PFT with his soccer analysis Like I expect us to win every single game in the group stage now We got so funny disordder. I wrote in my book the nineteen ninety four I went down to Soldier Field for the first game Bolivia, Germany, I was worried no one would show up played a video, a crackly video outside the stadium in which Tommy Lazorda said they they clearly got him to make a hype speech and he said something like I don't really understand soccer. I don't know what the World Cup is, but if America are in it, I know we're going to win it which I just love. I just love. So that's what you sounded like in that moment I mean, here's the issue. I'm going to whisper this because it's a little bit frightening. Australia They love being the underdog. They love like their big locker room. billboard merchants When we got drawn against them, U because we were hosts. so we were the number one seed. everyone went mad in America, like o Godd, Australia there. And one guy on CBS television just les into the microon and goes, Australia, lay up. likeike you know, pizza pit. and then Ct remember what it was London Donovan said something so astonishing about the coach that he was a common The Australian coach was interviewed. He's a very good coach. Popovich And he said, yeah, we're pleased too that we got America. like that's good that's good. We could have got Brazil, we could have got England. We're pleased with America. And Landon like talked about him being arrogant. that wasn't the word he used. He said something like he's going to get out of here on the on the next Quantas flight, which was like, wow, bro U And then Alexi weighed in and said You know, there's not they're ordinary. It's an ordinary team. And so the Australian press, this is why I'm whispering, have taken all of this and they've decided that we think we are, you know, we're this, we're that. They're going to destroy us So I want to say to the people of Australia, we fear you You' a very good football team I'm just gessing you up. I'm just gessing you up. Were just we fear you. They are a good team. They're kind of us. they're kind of us. They're organized, They're disciplined. They're a really good collective It will be a really great game. I don't like to be hyperbolic. It might be the best thing that's happened to Seattle since Never Mind came out in nineteen ninety one. I'm so excited. this city this c end did well. Oh Oh I'm trying to remember a pulljam alvum very quickly. the streets are like, it's crazy here, man. It's beautiful I'm finding it I'm finding this so moving as someone that loves America U like Kenny Powers loves America that loves football rising in America beautiful part of the other night was seeing just streets, you know Columbus, Ohio, thousands of people out there, seeing like you know Saint Louis, thousands of people out there, seeing Americans you, falling in love with this feeling of connectivity and joy and happiness and being together and welcoming I mean, we can get off on that in a minute I'm starting to worry what we're going to do when the Scottish fans leave that I don't know what's going to happen That was my question Yeah, because there's there's there's certain storylines that popped up the US men's team, you know, the booth on Fox, but the Tartan Army, the Scots. I read a someone wrote a story about the Tartan Army and they had an anecdote in it where Essentially, they were all in a liquor store And a woman who had nothing to do with the Tartan Army came in and bought really hot day really hot bought two water bottles and they booed her for buying water. Did you know that this was like the Scots and the Tartan Army had it like this because they are' capturing the hearts of America. By the way, PFT knew this. when I was in Chicago and we were I was walking out the studio and this is months ago, hundred days before the World Cup, my book came out And you al I was like you're like, I'm so excited for the World Cup. And I was like, What are you most excited for man? And you were like, oh the Tartan army you knew back then and you're right I mean It is I mean, the Ton Army is beautiful for so many reasons. I'm oldld enough to remember when Boston used to be an Iria city And just to see them come in. and fall in love with Boston and to you know quadruple the beer sales over a weekend that they have on St. Patrick's Day, which is thring down the gauntlet. U But overall, the joy of the Tan arrmy is really profound. I grew up in Liverpool in the nineteen eighties, Fotball fandom was hooliganism. and you know England was struggling And football was parochial And you would march all over Europe and every team had a, you know was going to win and have, you know, violence. The fans we wanted the taste of blood in our mouth, you'd go and to be And in World Cups too, just pitch battles against police, against other fans against anybody that you could, you know, you were letting out a profound national anger And I think the thing that's been really beautiful, and my God, we needed it in America. We really did. We needed them to come over and revel in our bookies. We needed them to come over and be like, Oh, this smothered and covered. What is this? We needed that. They're falling in love with us and we can fall in love with ourselves again. part of the The joy of this is someone who has lived a lot of football is how welcoming the The fanbases are, it's no longer about like, okay, let's go and whereere's the English? Let's go and have them. Let's go and it's about We're here, lifeife is short This is joyful. Everyone can participate. We had the Diego Lun up That actor come on the other day in Mexico. And he was laughing about how the Mexicans and the South Koreans are having a love off. They're playing today in Guadalajora. like the too fight you se like Mexican fans dunk South Korean fans upside down in huge vats of tequila and they're like their lives are being changed. And he's like, I love it. This is the face of Mexico that we always want to put out, but it's also like I kind of miss. the old days Wh the Mexican fans would spend hours in the middle of the night outside the South Korean hotel firing fireworks at the players' windows and just making it he. But it's beautiful. We need this kind of love. Yeah own arrmy is they're an SEC school. Yeahes it's the biggest company you can give ' them. It's incredible. Yeah. exxcept like SEC. They're Alabama. They're Georgia. L likeike just show up to your city, drink every single beer Yeah have a great time. I was going to ask you about that because like what is the legacy of this? L playing it forward? Boston, I'm so sorry. You have been the jewel of the planet in terms of warmth, hospitality, wonder. I'm seing clips in my U in my feed that'm like, Oh, I've seen that one before three days ago and then he realized holy crap, no, this is new. Yeah it's still going. Yeah It's still going man. like Scotland, the nation where We once had Ovie on the show and I asked him when he won Stanley Cup and he did all that stuff, you know, where he's in the fountain doing the press ups and then at the nationals game doing all the crazy stuff shirt off. He invented tops off at the Nationals game We just didn't know at the time. And I was like, man, you did this for five days. How do you not ungo and he just looked at me like a min he goes, Ovi do not get hunangover. And Scottish people and Ovi do not get hangovers and I admire it so greatly. But they're going to Miami next week that's gonna be the humidity of Miami theart and hm Lon and the Scottish heads are like a max made and p It's gonna be insane I do want to see the videos that come out of Scotland like the Tart Army going to eleven Oh my God. in the kilt.'s two things that have not been invented in Britain. is sunscreen and electricity. Neither exist there and they're going to have their minds say I'm interested in what you think about how American sports like English fans were at were in Dallas Stadium there' in Jerry World yesterday and they were blown away by it. you know, they The America the sports hand global sports hands are blown away by America, both the sporting reality and the Um and not our gas stations. the way, we got to get into the we got to get into the buies European franchise business. likeike I want to open the biggest bloody buookies in in Dresden outside of Dresden. They'll be like money. But u The other thing is How will American sports culture be changed by what you guys have seen which SEC school will be playing freed from desire. Yeah Ie, you know, when they win will you be will you be doing will like Will will the Vikings fans be doing the Norwegian rowing piece Yeah might be thatv it Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, who be who'll be tidy en up after themselves? Will it be BYU fans? Will they be like just tidy enough after games like the Jack L do you see American sports cults have being changed by this crap or will it be a circus that just goes? I mean, we need the chance. We do do I think that chanting could use a little bit of work, but that's something that has to be organic. So we don't know where that's going to come from. I know our boss Dave had a couple bangers that he dropped on the timeline yesterday. We'll see if those get picked up or not. for the American f. Yeah, he had one Yankee Doodle Danny, very popular song that everybody knows that you just replace some of the words with Pulisic and then you rhyme Turnney with it I forget some word that doesn't rhym with Tony. So it's going to take some work that we have to do. But I think you got to hit the nail on the head earlier. It's nice to see our own country through other countries's eyes sometimes Because to paraphrase Kevin Durant, a lot of dumb bullshit happens in our country, but a lot of great things happen too And sometimes we lose sight of that and seeing other people like enjoy our culture. like the Japanese fans, they've, I feel like they might even be My favorite fans of the entire tournament them being amazed at barbecue, going on all the local news stations and just being like great ambassadors for the country. It's great to see your country through the eyes of another. It really is. That's what I'm here because of that, man. I genuinely my life is a living testament to the soft power of America, which felt from Liverpool when I was growing up, you know, I watched William Refrigerator Periet. I wanted that man. I wanted that You you watch public enemy and you're like, wow, God A young Nuttria highigh school John Hughes movies and that bloody hell And it is right. the Japanese fans who wrote that letter about um about how free u free chips at a Mexican restaurant just kept coming and then they felt obliged to eat them, even though they were feeling physically sick because like in Japan you don't get free stuff and they had this great line like a free gift can never be dishonored. So like these guys just sitting there on their eighty seventh bowl of chips and salsa. And they just want to vom it, but it's just like America as they stuff it down. I love that. And by the way, we've not talked for a second aboutb anything that's happened on the field. This is the joy of the World Cup. It' just It is just every day's just another fan base. the off the field is and this I guess is sports now man but it is like just the Just the joy of the world right now reveling in in the United States, it's a very healing moment I guess one thing that has happened on the field that a lot of people are talking about is messy Has Messy gotoneten to the point where he's being mean where he's just rubbing it in Like it's's he's won the battle so clearly against Ronaldo We get it, like a hat trick to open up the World Cup and then Rinaldo looking like he u probably shouldn't even be in the continent. He shouldnt made the trip over here. Like it was it was a tough watch for Portugal and it was a great watch for Argentina what can you say to if you know a Ronaldo fan, they're probably going through it right now. What can What can you tell them to make it seem like everything's going to be like? I don't think you can. I don't think the world's divided into two kinds of people. like there's well, you they're always sweet people like sweet, people like savory. you know, people who like the no people like people who like Messi, people who like Ronaldo and you can't say anything. You cannot change it. It's not a objective thing. It's in American sports too, obvious with like Michael Jordan and LeBron and all you just cannot change that. Once you're a Ronaldo Tsa, you're a Ronaldo Tsa. I love your idea that Messy this sweet little diminutive ewalk who can just do crazy magic. It's not even physical. truck walks Most of the game when you watch him, he's walking. You know when we I ask him I said, he looks like he's just wandered out of your local super cuts. you're like, I'm not afraid of that. And then suddenly He'll just like burst into life and do like it's part like I'm pretty sure there's part ninja action going in there. There's part like close up magic Ricky Jay kind of card shuffle crap, this stuff. I don't even know the thing is it's probably so infuriating to Ronaldo because Ronaldo's stuff is is A rodesqu. It's five tool player stuff. It's just like, you know, six abs is not enough for the perfect, you know, the perfect shirt reveal. You got to have eight on a good day ten.. And so those are diminishing those powers Um, and you're left with, I mean, it's like kind of James Hardest kind of catch twenty two that he's going to take all the shots. He's not going to play the day. You kind of know at this point, you're not going to win with him But it's the bonfire of the vanities for Portugal I said this a couple of times. they can win this they can win this tournament. That's the agony and they all want to win it for andald day But the thing that's stopping them winning out for Ronald is Ronaldo right. It's bit of of mind Bnder. Yes. do you think there's any chance that they do sit him because that from everything I've read and seen like Portugal has a team that is a true, you know, I don't even know if they're dark horse, but they're one of the best teams when he's not playing And yet they have to just kind of bend the knee to them and say, yeah, we're going to let you play and and not in American sports. who's the Renallda of American spports I don't want to bash him, but L LeBron is better than LeBronaldo right now, but you could make the argument LeBron is maybe holding the Lakers hostage a little bit for their future So that's I mean, that's ultimately it and they can win. I mean, they are so bloody talented. But you got to remember these players all came through with Ronaldo as that icon. So no one wants to tell him. No one wants to be there. They had this last World Cup and they did drop him. And the guy that replaced him who's still the number two striker, Ramos You scored a hat r Um and and and then that, you know, and and then they, you know,, I mean, it's tough. It's very psychologically tough, but I mean he's making three hundred million dollars a year. So how tough is it? I don't really know U, and his legacy is And his legacy is magical, but what messy Messy must drive him crazy that he's wor the World Cup that he's still delivering that he just wanders on. How great was it in Kansas City narrowhead stadium. PFT. whenever I see arrowhead stadium, I think of you laughing at the school booard. I do I do I do. But to see that stadium which is normally just like Andy Reed's domain feel like it You know, in the heartland of our nation to see it bouncing and it could have been in Argentina that night. the noise The spectacle. It could have been Buenos Ares, it could have been the mononumental where Argentina normally play. I found that really to be sincere for one very fleeting second I find it really moving that that was America and to see that and to witness that And I think I won't Yeah. Yeah. He has more wins at Arowhead than Derk Carr. Yeah,'s pretty pretty crazy. Dk C played in the FC West for many years. All right. So what team what team has impressed you the most through the first games? I mean, England was great Germany obviously just absolutely spanked whoever they play C Cur wasn't fair. Maybe Curao is better than we think because they only lost to Germany by the same amount that Brazil did close to they were t one one. Yeah. But but when they scored that goal though, Cursaow this tiny This tiny island I mean, we're seeing Curiso on that schoolbg. again against it it's worth millions and millions of dollars to like the the Cosao but worth even more to the Kuracao and diaspor, that pride, that joy, that. I mean, I find all that incredibly moving. when they scored Kuracao against Mighty Germany, a really good goal on the counter, really good I'm dad inside. I'm a horrible person But I stood up. I was like, so bl, I've never been to Curisao, I'm not Curisaowan It's an incredible achievement. sameame with Kate Verd.. We had that goalkeeper on the forty year old journeyman. I mean, this is like a man who rattled around like triple A AA baseball forever and then suddenly got not just called up to the majors But almost like in the world Sies just suddenly came on and pitched almost a perfect game. I can't imagine what that must have felt like for him. Um and You know, the joy of it to go from twenty nine thousand Instagram followers he had no one no one was saying the word Vemia when he woke up that morning. But by night he had ten million Instagram followers, more than more than M homes Y more than Wemby. And every kid, I said this to him, Do you know like every kid tonight when they're playing football is throwing themselves around on the turf or the asphalt or whatever, just screaming, I am Vazinia. And That's ultimately, I think whoever wins and we don't know yet to answer your question, like a lot of teams look tasty U, you know, obviously France are amazing Argentina, amazing. England didn't crap the bed at the first hurdle, which is a big, big psychological relief U so many of the teams, no one has fear. That's what's changed. like the middle midd the African teams are fearless, self confident. everyveryone fancies themselves. no one wants to capitulate. But really the joy is It's like the Vasignia joint that names that we do not know can just have transcendent experiences and this a bit sincere for your show. So I'm going to bring it to a hold. but like that that is it, man. And I just hope More than anything that some of those names will be American names. This tournament is going to be enormous whith or without the US. boys going deep. But if they do go deep if they can win a couple of games, if they can make us believe, if they can give us these scenes in cities across the nation make us feel alive, cheering for the Fation, America loves winners, America loves dream teams. This has been a dream on team forever It could be so profoundly transformative. Yeah. I could. Yeahah. Have you heard anything? you've got sources everywhere, Roger. Have you heard anything about Christian Pulish's cf How's that leg doing He was wearing like a compression sleeve. Yeah. They're being very you know what? I actually kind of, I think I like what they're doing. It seems almost Belacheian the way that they've handled this injury There's like no information that they're giving out whatsoever. So it might not even be that bad of an injury and they're just letting us all think that it is. It might be way worse than we think it is, but we're wondering like, is he going to play? There's a chance he might play. I really I kind of respect how they're like keeping it very, very close to the vest and letting the narratives get out there. But what have you heard about it? I've heard it's still attached to his leg. Good which is big if true and can neither confirm nor deny that Um I mean, Thank God, a couple of things The team has so many talents right now. and the group this group stage is so forgiving. The way they've set this tournament up, almost everybody goes through after you know all these games and all this journey done Yeahah, yeah, everyone everyone is in the next round lads Um, and so I guess it's a trade offff of resting against Australia, we played them in November, was it Um and we beat them to one. they were very good. They gave him a real kicking I it's a very physical team. It's like it's like kind of football Bill Lamberer would really look out and be like, now that's I could I'm interested in that game they really gave him a kicking. He actually had to come off in that game and was injured for weeks and weeks and weeks So I think how he's used if he is fit, can he play Would he play would you fling him into that will be the narrative But it's going to be a magical game. I remember I'm gasing up the Australian. It's going to be a magical game. bothoth teams very good Both teams very good. Australia, very, very good Um, and so I do I just hope for a spectacle balllegant to see to see an American. pull his foot back to strike the ball and actually believe it's going to go in the back of the net. that is I didn't think I'd live to see the date. Yeah. That's pretty incredible. And you're right to gas up the Australian and it shouldn't just be like gassing them up. We should if you've watched the tournament so far You should know that any team is capable of beating any other team or at least tying any other team Yeah and if they tie, good things happen at Barostol headquarters. So everybody wins baby. That's fact. That is true. That's that is the point. Do you have do you have like your top four? Do you have a Mount Rushmore of all time soccer players Yes, but they wouldn't mean much to you. Most of them are terrible and they just make me laugh with their like tenacity trying to overcome their terribleness. I love. I do I think that's the greatest thing in sports. like being a bears fan, being a white sox fan You do learn that Sports is a pleasure that hurts is it like it's a suffering, it's an agony. And when something great happens, you know, it's fleeting, death is going to come for us all. It is And you just got to celebrate it. So most of my favorite footballers are human beings that are deep deep my favorite baseball player of all time wasas Joey Kora? Okay. ador him. like I I've signed I've got every baseball card of Jerry Coras. I've got sign jerseys of Jerry Coras. In my office, I've got Joe Cora Avenue somebody made in Chicago. I have that street sign Like this was a guy who was playing on a really good white sox team When I arrived And he just he just took the field every time just like so happy to be there. So I mean never took a second play baseball u for granted. I adore him and that kind of That kind of it's like ultimately life is short and you gott to make the mostte of every minute, and that's what I love. So my favorite footballers, I could tell you, but they wouldn't mean very much to you. They're just hilarious. You want of the best great ones of all time. Yeah, yeah, tellell me who like you would say would be the four greatest of all time. In order Okay ye Yeah fair, fair. Number one, just asss. Christian F. Yeah. Christian Fistic number two Um, probably ready to do? U Is he three or four though that's that' I don't want I don't You knowt why there's the messi and the there's the messy and the Renal there's the There's the Fredya D three and the Freddya D four absolutist and I don't when you get into a Twitter war with ambassadard, ye ye. they'll get's over it's over, man Freddie Day and I'd probably put in Um, Number four I think would probably be Morta. Brailian the Bazilian icon. That's how there. be Lalas. U it be Lallison polistic. do respect I love Kyle Beckerman who used to play for the United States, play for us forever. was just the most tenacious footballer that work so bloody hard He'd probably be number five, but you only wanted four on that rush more. so that's how I go, baby. Yeah That's good. So are there any teams that should be pressing the panic button Brazil I'm mostly asking about Brazil Should Brazil be pressing thepain fine. They they p the bos and they had like eleven guys in playing inside the penalty box.omll be fine. Spain Brazil be like shit I can't read too much. First game man is like these teams, the Germans have a word for it. I think it's going like turn your manshaft. They got a word for everything And the idea is that the Wld Cups won by the team that plays themselves into the tournament. You got to remember These men and they are they're just guys They're living together in like weirdly monastic conditions for like forty d. It's like love Island, but without any of the women in the house And so when walking around. there's some great guys. There's always some pretty weird ones Um And it can be like we've had great teams that sound amazing that have just destroyed themselves in the first week of camp just like just self immolating in there because they can't stand being in these weird you know a natural Where's whereere's my club to stumble out of at four o'clock in the morning covered in my own vomit. If I can't do that, I can't perform. You know, where's my where's my Lamborghini to smash into a lamppost and just walk out of and go and buy another lamborghini, not even have it towed. unless I can play football under those elite conditions Do it. So ultimately we do not know. And so the tony of Manshaft is like sometimes in those Sometimes in those conditions, just the geezers come together, just the boys kick in. You sort of Argentina, they bring overlight Theying over like twenty five thousand pounds of meat And all they're doing is either playing football training or barbecing. It's like those are the three three times of the day and they loved it and they played their music and they're like man it's so amazing And they come together by the way Th those boys in Kansas City, the first time they they taste burnt ends is going to they'll be like with Don't you think they're going be like we've been doing it all wrong all these decades. Yeah. Yeah. it is true. The Argentinians. I mean, I'm a big messy fan. so it's been a great week. a great week. Raog. So everyone, by the way, the book is fantastic. Go buy it on Amazon Also just a little little preview I think PFT and I are booked to come on your show live after the final group stage game for the US men's national team in a moment of victory. We're going to have a post quital cigarette together. So we'll be joining you from this studio and so we're very excited for that. We actually will shouldn't Listen, we have our eyes on the whole thing. so we're not going to roups We're in the United States, Roger, we don't celebrate group stage wins. All right? Yeah exactly. That's beneath We celebrate hardware trophies. R And by the way, it's happening. Can we just It is. And then it's over. I think I think we were texting when you were laughing about what we were saying a week ago, but If the world ever lets us win a World Cup, it's over It is I love you, B. canan you say this theory? because it is so funny to me. Bea the only thing that's keeping the world together is them laughing at us. so bad at men's football. Yeah They know that that's why they laugh at soccer by the way.. Like B the way, English people call it soccer. The biggest show on Saturday on English television is called soccer Saturday. They wake up to a show called so Soccer Air They use it. It means association football. It's like so they use it all the time. But they also know when they're like, hey, Hey mate you're not even proper. You call it soccer know bed that we're like, oh my Godd, we're inferior that they know that we know that they know that we know that they're laughing at us makes us feel. But your point is what when we win it, what happens? It's just over. It's over. You have nothing left. The world has nothing left. I got into it with a guy the other night and he was like, oh, typical American only cares about soccer once every four years. And I said, Hey buddy Sorry that we have other sports that are awesome. And we and we have March Madness in the NFL and college football. My bad dude. Yeah. And so if we win this It's a rat Just forget it. the a better be coming the next day. W ever be able to deal with this. Wouldn't that be the greatest em really that after all these decades trying to make football, soccer happen in the United States. Yeah we would win it. And then the rest of the world would it be the equivalent of a kid knocking the game board over. the rest of the world would just be like it's over soccer is crap. their bong go Yeah like we're not interested anymore. If you If you thought it was bad what we did to Canada when we stow hockey. Oh my God. You're giving it up. You're giving up. You're not you're not playing any sport that resembles soccer anymore Like no more ball sports just we're going to swim every the rest of the world, we're going to swim from now on and go if it happens if a twelve month timeespan, we win The World Cup, we win the gold medal in hockey at the Olympics And we get the pope. Yeah. And now now the pope is from Chicago. Honestly, the only only move that the world would have is put Yugoslavia back together and hope you can win a gold medal in basketball. That's like that would be your only move. We got to get a pope chang going at the World Cup. We've got the pope We've got the pope's There's only one pope by the way, we've not even have time to talk about and I know this is the longest edition of P my t in all of history and everyone wants you to talk about the Nick God man, it's so amazing. I'm like a Balls fan I grew up with like watching John Starks beat the crap out of Tony Kukotch. F times a year, I have a nightmare, cold sweat and night'm thinking of John Starks puuby mustoustache laughing at me like the Cheshire cat And so I'm not Nicks I'm not Nicksight forward. but man, that's the kind of ecstasy that really looks insane today. Yeah. I just wish everyone has it. But we not even had the chance to talk about You you've done it. You've won football already. You've made us have four quarters. don't know you hydration breaks. Yeahipping those commercials. I don't know how people didn't like the World Cup must have had several players die every year before the hydration break. It's a good thing we got it and also it's a good thing that they go to commercial During the hydration break. that's why it's gonna be in every in England where they play and it's like pissing down and it's like minus twenty And they're gonna be now we're going to the hydration break because everybody wants to the one, I think it was our game in LA. It was like seventy four degrees the perfect weather indoors, they' like hydration America, you've almost won already. Yeah. All right, I got one last question for you, Raj. You're the best. We're going to have you back on before before the World Cup fininal. This tournament is best. And also tune in for us on Ra's show on after the America going America going to lose and you're going to come I'm just We're not showing. We won't show I thought it would be so funny to have on when we just like do it. instead, it's like going to be the end of four weddings and a funeral We'll see replacement. Let me be it willll be Zach and Hanks sitting in these two seats. Let me tell you let me tell you what's going to happen if we lose. We're going to do an NFL preview. Yeah on your show. We're we're going we're going hope you're ready to brown down the NFC south. Y We're going to get deep into it Let's talk about the Sts you. Let's talk about the Saints Line Backers. That's that's what we care about. Oh, it's happening. But all right, my last question rooback question RHO bacK dot com promo code take twenty percent off your first purchase cQuesan Poloss Hoties joggers shorts, roobak. comot promo cod take, Here's a little preview if we do lose Zack is going to give you the last question, Zack Go for it. How are you doing today, Roger Exactly, how gorgeous. what What's going on my man? I had a quick question. I was kind of curious on your thoughts that England didn't bring Cole Palmer to the World Cup, if you had any any takeaway from that? That's a deep cut robot. com twenty percent off So Cole Palmer is for those who don't know, he's like a virtuous so natural maverick words are not his thing. He's a very funny kind of very memable football player, but what he can do is actually the transcendent to give you a very serious answer Ultimately, all of everyone, every coach is grappling with the same issue with this World Cup is that you have twenty six human beings They're going to live in like reality TV conditions And you you don't want. I mean it was on the was it on the Miracle in Iice That movie, Kurt Russell gave us out beautiful, beautiful wisdom that he doesn't want what the He doesn't want the best guys. He wants the what's the rest of that quote? He wants the best collective, the best squad, the best unit. And Cole Palmer has had a very poor season and ultimately, this was a signal by the coach. We have a German coach. We didn't even get into this. Can you imagine? number two things I want to leave you with If England win the World Cup. in America in the two hundred fiftieth anniversary, of America It might just be The darkest timeline where Rock I said this to you last time I was on like America will just be in agony watching so many English fans fire in bottle rockets out their enuses O of our offices, we didn't even know you could do bottle rockets and that's our gift to you, America but it's also You know, the English will have to know they have a German manager. They couldn't when with an English manager, they got very close but like well, we need that German winner. They have a German manager running the team now, which's like be an agony in many ways, for it needed a German to lead us to victory. in whatever anniversary of D day, It just was is also in agony. And so he kind of like you're saying, I don't need the big names. I just need the right names together and that's what's going to lead us to victory And we will say God, I can't wait for the bears season to kick off over. We'll have you back on for a pre. I can't wait for that baby. I just got excited. Yeah. I see my stickers falling off, which means it's time for me to get. Yeah Roger, you're the best We'll see you in a week and you're the absolute best and everyone check out Men in Blazers and buy Roger's book and Here's the Wor Cup. Rubakot com. Big, big love guys. Really, really enjoy every single second, makeake great memories, enjoy the Scottish fans while we got them. Carrage. Thanks. Roger Binnet was brought to you by Jose Cuervo when Cuervo enters every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor, you can't help but stand up and high five those around you at the game And the room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time You stop checking the time. Suddenly small talk escalates to laughing so hard that you can barely catch your breath That's the Cuervo effect. hoping for a few more Cuervo effects at the game on Friday. US. Sververs Australia, when when we when we rip a world class topop shelf Golazo. That's a quer of a moment right there All you have to do is keep it qu vo with Jose Cuervo, it's delicious. It's teequila. You love it. The moments are great who was a quervo And now here's Alex Caraban. Okay, we now welcome on a very very, very special guest. It is two time National champion and soon to be drafted in the NBA, Alex Caraban. Alex, thanks for joining us Uh First question is how you feel? You got two weeks to the draft How are you feeling? Are you like nervous? What goes through your head when you're this close to the draft U you just want the draft to be here. That's really how it is. like you're working out every single day getting ready for the combine now you're traveling a bunch working out for NBA teams and It's a long process. It's exhausting. It's also fun at the same time. stressful, really just It makes us so many emotions and Really just looking forward to the draft now and just seeing where I go. and when my name will be called, so just excited for that. Yeah. you've been playing basketball a really high level for a long time now. and then To get prepped for the draft, I'm sure you have to work on things that maybe you haven't worked on a ton in the past or like focus on certain parts of your game. Like what has been different about getting ready for the draft as opposed to just like what you've been doing, which has translated into you being a really good basketball player. Yeah, I think it's really just mastering what I was good at and just making sure I'm like solid at it. So like becoming an elite shooter and really just Really just doing the things that will help me make an impact on a team or really just help an NBA team win. So trying to create everything super simple, not anything that's outside of my box and really just Whatever the team needs me to do to win and just sharpen what I'm going to be a lead at the next level, just working on that every single day. Ive got a big question for you. Have you thought about your draft night outfit H Do you have that ready I have been working on it actually. I've been working on it. I'm gonna I'm most likely going to do it at home. so I'm doing like a whole party in Massachusetts and really just I'll probably rock like a suit, like something with a suit, but I also want like on the insides to have like everything that's like led me to the draft night. You would lik kind crazy is? What if on the inside of your suit was that last play against Du Yeah open it up the passast to Braylin Yeah then Braylin celebration That would be pretty incredible. I might include that. I will invite Braylon to the draft party so he could orchestrate all that. Have you made the suit yet I have not made it yet. So can we be in the suit?olutely It's up to it. Absolutely. my take. Yeah. abbsolutely. Like a little timeline of everything twow weeks before the draft did the gauntin and talking to you guys. Yeah go back to where it all started two weeks ago at the Bar. I do I mean the shot, I should thank you. was I think The exact tweet was like I just came I've seen that. liked it on Twitter. Yeah. I came multiple times. That was onene of the best tournament games like ever like after that game are you guys just What even do you say in the locker room? just like, holy shit did that just happen? Yeah, it was just like complete shock. It was just like we really came back and we really won. It's like You were like trying to remember like Oh shit we made to the final four.'s like you're just too caught up in Brailing shot the comeback, just everything that happens You're going on social media after you're seeing Coach headbt, the ref, everything. so really. Oh yeah. So not a head butt. not a head That was his friend. It was a nuzzle. And they were leaning close to have a conversation intimately was cing. It was cuddling. Yeah.Quick No, I know You said you have a dog. Do you have a dog? I do. have three dogs. So you've nuzzled with your dog before. have, You know what's crazy too. O of my dogs is named Duke Oh like That's awesome. My sister named him. Okay. so we got I have a younger sister and a younger brother and we each got to name a dog and I namedine Luca. my sister named the other one Duke. That is very funny though that you can be like, sorry, I gott to go put some water some more water in Duke's bowl. That's what I'm saying. So it's like if we lost that game, like I don't know what I would done with the dog, Duke. So reename. You'd have to rename. Rname him have to, right? Yeah, But no you like put Duke on a leash and then take it for a walk. That's great. That's actually veryolutely ye. Yeah. We did you find it? scroll down. I said it's so wet, incredible, but I think I said I I think it said u I came. I can't remember the exact phrasing, but I remember Oh yeah, I just came in my pants. That was the greatest thing ever. Yeah. I did That was the greatest thing ever. It was. It really was. And it also like Was there a party you was like, Yeahah, that's what we do. We just win because you won so much that you're like, Yeah, and I don't know it's going to work out. Like halfime you're like I don't know guys, We'll just figure out We' I Mouse Karean. I'm at Yukon. We win. Yeah. No, absolutely. I knew we had a chance no matter what just we didn't play the first half the way we wanted to. but We knew over time, we just keep playing the way we want to play. shots are going to fall and really just we've made comebacks before we've Really just been such a good team the entire year that we had so much belief in ourselves in that locker room to where we knew we could win that game. So Yeah, definitely. we definitely believed that. Yeah. Afterwards, did you because we played this for for your coach, did you see the reenactment that we did of the final shot? No, I did. It was in the office. Yeah, we did we did like a full on reenactment. We were just everyverybody in this office was just buzzing for the next like twelve hours. It was It was so incredible I got to see that right after. Yeah. It's not great. We're not great basketball players at all. but looking back over the years at UCon, you played on some incredible teams. you've played in some incredible games. Is there one game where you're like that's when we were at peak Yukon where just Everything, every possible thing that we did worked And nobody could have beaten us Um. I mean, besides the national Championshipames, it's got to be that Illinois game my sophomore year around that thirtyzer run. likeike that was insane. just Nothing could have gone wrong for us that that run and just We got to stop score, stop score and just And in Boston too. So it was like ninety percent Uucon fans too. so it was incredible. Yeah Yeah. here's the Oh yeah, here's the react It's on the screen right there. It's really bad. thought It's really, really bad Bball play. It took us like ten shots too Okay like bigig steal from Big Cat to me back to Big Cat Bang, bang I love it. Yeah. and we made it Hank is a Duke fan. so that's's why I kick see there start kicking the other players. That twenty twenty four team I know that like cooach Hurlely and we know him Fairly well. He's been a guest many times. We love we love rooting for him, but like Was there a part of that twenty twenty fourteen where he was trying to give you guys motivation or being like, we haven't won anything yet and you guys are like We're so much better than every Be you guys were. It was just the whole tournament it was never a sweat. No, definitely. I mean, he made us work every single day in practice and it was like He's like this team hadn't done anything. You got you got Steph, you got Cam who haven't won before. You got all these new guys to that haven't expericed what we experienced as returners from the previous years. So Um, he was making us he was making us earn in like when we would lose games too, that's like when he capitalized on We're not good. We got to get better at this and like every single day just pushing us. So He was never satisfied for any moment and really He saw the potential of our team. is just he wanted us to see how far we could go and really just never being satisfied. Yeah. Yeah, when you would watch him before the game drinking his piss, would that be like a little intimidating likeike o shit he's going to be on one like he's able to just slug this p the mushroom coffee all those drinks that he had. So like my freshman year, I never knew what that drink was. So I probably thought it was piss too. It is pissed. Yeah He's confirmed. He's confirmed it's pisses.ike that I never knew what that was at then Obviously it came out, but Did he mellow out because he he claims he mellowed out? Did he mellow out a little bit in your four years I couldn't tell to be honest. Okay yeah he could tell He did a good job of telling everyone he did a good job of hiding it to himself. Yeah. but No, he was he was the same every single day. That's just I think that's what makes him so special, but No know, I never could tell Yeah, What was his recruiting pitch do you like It was crazy because we were we were holding national championship trophies from the previous years taking photos together and I'm like, cooach, I'mll be honest with you like this feels weird and he goes, I hate this too. Like I don't want to hold the trophies together and he goes. you know, I truly believe that you can make an impact on us and Mind you, I live an hour away from campus too. so it's kind of like a local school for me as well. and When he brought the championships and just the history and all that, it just made me want to be a part of it and just really help Ykon bring YCon back to the level that it should be at and seeing his reactions to when I held the previous trophies and he was just like, let's go get our own I think that's what really just sold it for me. Do you think he was testing you? Like here' touch the stroph and you're like, He might have been He might have been. Is good. That's the right answer. Exactly. ' that is a weird thing to ask you to do. It's like, hey celebrate Or like a team that we had twelve years ago That's what I'm saying. we both weren't a part of it. We had nothing to do with that. So like, why am I holding a trophy that? we had nothing to do with. so U Yeah, I think that was that was like really the moment when we were able to like bond and really just made me want to play for him. Yeah, what other schools are you deciding between It was between Yukon and Northwestern. So my mom, she's big on academics. it's like. What are you going to do when the ball stops bouncing? G get a degree. Northwestern is obviously a great academic school. so Really she wanted me to go there and I took a visit before UCon to Northwestern and we went to dinner And she was like, you better commit, you better commit to this dinner. Owise like I'm gonna be pissed at you away. And I was like, M,'ll be honest. We got Yukon next week. Like we see Yukon here both sides. And like I was begging her. So she was like, all right, so she gave me the grace to go to Ykon and then I took my visit to Ukon and coach Hurley and the coaching staff did all basketball talk. So like my mom left and she was like I don't like this. They didn't talk about academics once. Coach calls me when I get back to my room after the visit. What do we got to do to get you? I said, lookook, you just got do a visit of straight academics for my mom. Once my mom gets the green light for me to commit, I can commit A week later, they bring a black SUV to my front from my front door Get in from eight AM to eight PM. We visit every academic building with every professor. The current president at UCon actually gave us the tour of campus. No way her and my mom are best friends now. Oh my God, that's perfect.. Does your mom ever know that you told them that Yeah, she knows. Oh she knows that you were like, hey, you have to you have to set this up like you have to do more academic. That's incredible. He loved it. He was just chilling. He was watching me. I was basically suffering I'm sitting in academic meetings all day talking about the same things Yeah, it was good. Did you get a degree I did, yees. Okay. so she's a lot of what was your degree in? I started with computer science.. So I went computer science but that became too much. So I just I just graduated in economics. Okay.' still pretty good. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But so she's happy with how the academic side turned out. Oh, she's very happy. And then I'm sure once you get that first and be a paycheck, she's gonna to be, okay, yeah, okay, this is a good career move. This isn't too bad actually. O the NIL. NIL money NIL too, definitely. Yeah. So did you grow up a fan of Red Sox, Patriots All Boston teams and Yukon basketball You just you just never stopped winning You've just won much When was the last time you didn't win something in a year Like gu a fan or as a player. I guess this past year with The national Championship game, but other than that. yeah. I mean what Tom Brady did his job? Jason Tatum and Je Brown recently Buins Red Sox, so really going to a bunch of championship parades and then experience some myself as well. So what happens if you get drafted on a team that wins like ten games It's going to be an adjustment. Yeah Is you're a winner adjustment. Yeah, it be an adjustment. but u Yeah, I've been telling teams like if we're not winning, I just want there to be like a good culture. If like culture set and like we're able to build on it for years to come and really eventually reach the point of winning, then I'll be cool.ike some of the best teams in the NBA are actually in a pretty decent position to turn things around pretty quick. you see how fast it happens in the NBA.ol. L if you just look at the east this past year, it's like nobody really expected This to be like the you know, the final four teams from the East and then you know, if you get a good staff in place, a couple good draft picks, maybe free agency pickup, like things turn around quickly in the NBA. Absolutely. You just got to sign the right guys, the right guys that fit and have the right mindset to work the organization like what they want to do for the team, then You know, you see things turn around quickly. Have there been teams that you've been meeting with more than others? Um I mean, I met with a bunch of teams at the Combine and then takaking a couple more visits. So like a couple teams, a lot of contenders, a couple of teams rebuilding. so Really just trying to find the right fit for me, but also like teams that are within my draft range. Did you get any weird questions of the combine Yeah. so one team was like, we heard you're smart guy and like a high IQ player. So before I was able to shake their hands, they I walked right in the door and they go How many pennies aren in a million dollars? And if you get it right, you can sit down and interview with us. What's the answer It was it was like a hundred pennies in a dollar. one hundred times a million. So a hundred million pennies All right you're smart. ye. economic. All right, let's try another one. Let's do a couple of weird ones How do you describe the color blue How do you describe the color blue? Yeah, it's a tough one This is weird to maybe it's like I mean you could say sky, but then someone could be like That would be good. You could say the sky or like the ocean water peopleople could be like, Is that really blue or a reflection Yeah it's a reflection. You don't want to talk if somebody calls you out and they don don't talk to that person. Yeah, yeah ye. What about how many ping pong balls in a seven forty seven. seven hundred forty seven Aual answer I wasn't seven for seven ping pot ball. I mean, you could You put them anywhere. Yeah. You gott to fill up the whole plane. The whole plane. You could put them into, you know, different cabinets too. What's your guess? My goodness, it's gotta be twenty million. Ooh, that's actually not bad guess. It says fifteen million on eight. fifteen million. That's pretty good. That's a really good guess. Yeah, that's a good guess. I would have said like, I don't know, like a couple hundred thousand Infinity Infinity. Yeah. I would have said, I play basketball man. Let's talk about basketball, please. When you're doing these interviews, how many people are in the room with you It varies. So like one of them I had four people, another one I had eighteen people. And like a couple of them, it's like you're sitting like in a circle. so it's like Everyone's seeing you, everyone's seeing your reactions, like You say something, you like you see someone write something down. So ye like what you just write? Yeah It's like high pressure scenarios in a little bit. but Um, I mean, they're good. You just got to be yourself. I mean They've done your research, they know who you are, J just be who you are. Yeah ye. How fun has it been to watch Castle It's been insane. It he's so good. incredible. Yeah. he was obviously awesome in college. He was a great player. There's no secret that he was going to be good in the NBA. But he seems like and a lot of times we say or I'll say something like this and it will be kind of a backhanded compliment. I don't mean it backh at this time that I'm saying. He plays basketball like best football player who plays basketball that you've ever seen. Like not in terms of like, you know, clumsy breaks for hands, that sort of thing that you hear sometimes when we talk about guys, but like he is so physical. He's he's a dog. he's in your face. And he's like an intimidating dude for his position too U But he's been so fun to watch. Did you know that he had this next level inem I knew he had it. I didn't know to this level. like he's definitely gone to a whole different level that didn't expect either like in the summer, you see them like He's doing all the moves. he's scoring with ease and like he's been an elite defender since college. but He really took it up a notch and really just the way he's guarding guys right now in the playoffs and then also Drop in twenty a night too like it's incredible So yeah. He's awesome. Have you ever seen him smile Rarely Yeah I was say like it's I love watching because he's just angry all the time. He's angry pissed and then he'll celebrate after a win and then the next day just move on and do what he's got to do. So cooach Hurlely must have loved him because he basically is just a coach Hurlely on the floor of just being pissed off all the time. He loved him. he' also super humble, so it's like coach Coach Hurlely and Coach Young are yelling at him every single day and he's just looking at them dead in the eyes and just nodding his head everyingle time super robotic with what he's doing. Like they could say whatever they need to say to stuff. He's just saying Yes coach, yes coach.. goes out and kills. so he's incredible. That's awesome The u so at the end of your career at UCon. Was there Was there like moments where Cach Hurlely kind of like pulled you aside was like, dude like thank you so much or like this is, you know, like, did he soften a little on you? Or was it just the same pedal to the metal the whole time. Same pedal to the medal. Really? We lost to St. Johns in the Biggies Championship and The next day in film, like he's cussing everyone now and he goes, Alex You really want to end like a soft motherfucker? L I love it. This is how you're gonna end your career. L, arere you serious right now? Like everything you've done and you're gonna go out like this, you're gonna go shit on the core. I was like He's right. Yeah kind of like lit a fire inside of me for the March Madness run and The more games we won, the more like he was just like enjoying the moment and not really talking about it to then when the season ended, like we have player exit meetings and He invited my whole family over to the ex meet and we just like talked for a couple of hours just about the entire run, the entire career just our entire relationship, everything that we've done at Yukon. So that was the soft moment. But other than that, like, He's never going to let off the foot. never let off the gas. Yeah. Did you ever u did you ever tell him, hey, like let your son shoot when he gets in at the end of the games? We wanted to. We told him that a couple of times actually. So when when Andrew would get in, we'd say like run to play for him. like Yeah. And he would a couple of times, but not u Like in the March manics games I know coach wanted him just to hold the ball and do the spike. Yeah. like that was the superstition of his. but We wanted him to shoot and we would tell him and he just he just never drew up the place. Yeah. There were some looks that I saw at the end of those games where he like you could tell he was thinking about it and you guys were like looking at him like, do it. And then hed look over at his dad. he'd be like, No, you better not, you better not shoot it. But yeah, the whole time we're just yelling at like let him shoot. Let Andrew get it get a couple shots off We wanted him. He would have made him. We know that like a moment like that o When you played So you played what years did you play IMG? Was it just your senior year or my senior year Who was on your team? I had u AJ store Wisconsin. Yeah Well everything. Eansas St. John. everythingverything. Yeah ye, M M. I was on the postgrad team of Star with. So I had AJ, Qadier, Justin Taylor, then I broke my hand and then the national team wanted me to be with them. So that was with like Kuone George, Jeris Walker Jet Howard And would you guys just kill people We would scrimmage against each other. They were They were a really good team. Yeah. they were a good team, but I broke my hand and they were like, do you want to come play for us? Yeah. I was like, I'd rather just go to college right now. So I just came back against college players. So yeah I was really there for half a year and it was cray I mean you a class from like eight to eleven and then You're just an athlete the rest of the day. What's that decision like when you're like so you play your first three years at your hometown high school and then you decide to go to IMG. W was that tough? like to be like, hey, I'm you know, like these guys have been playing with my probably your best friends. Yeah. Now you're going to go somewhere you're going to go to Florida for your senior year. Was that W that weird? Oh, it's extremely weird. I mean, I never left the New England region ever in my life. So really just making that transition to Florida was a tough decision for me, but then also leaving my hometown, leaving everyone behind. I mean I loved it and really just, you know, you want to go out your senior year and just You know, one last run with the boys, but Um, you know, I wanted to do That's for my career at the end of the day. and that's just playing against better players, just being uncomfortable pushed every single day and IMG, they had the facilities to do that. so What was your best high school game when you're at your regular high school My regular high school. So my freshman year is I had like forty forty and twenty five. So you're what, like fifteen years old Probably sixteen yeah. That's crazy And then u I was like I was like a su super shy kid too. so like all the like all the people coming to watch me and like the team that we the team that we had was really good. So like, first couple games, I'm going up to dunk, I'm falling on my back, like missing all the dunks just from the nerves of it all U Yeah, than just really going out to jrop forty and twenty pretty much every night at a gonkorn. Yeah. When did you first dononk Late seventh grade, early eighth grade. That's awesome. There was middle school dunking on people. That's kind of. No, I swear there were some like hometown middle school games were playing different tos just dunking on people. just it was cheating. Did it back on do you feel bad? Do you feel bad for dunking on a seventh grade kid? I do feel bad, but then when I see these kids grow up and like, you know, just talking to them like ast the middle school days they loved it. Yeah really to say like, oh yeah, Alex Cariban dumped. No, exactly. So they love every second.id Did you shock yourself when you dunked the first time? Yeah, I did. You like, holy fuck. Yeah, I didn't expect it. It's like you want your dad to videotape you do and then like you watch in slow motion, then you post on the Instagram story growing up and try to get try to get some hype around it. Yeah. That's gott to be a great like what am I doing up here? How No. Actually and also guys that used to do dunk on in like seventh, eighth grade, just reminds like they grew up and they probably get mad at you if their parle doesn't hit. Oh, absolutely. So you need to get those dunks in well you can justust to remind them, yeah, okay, I'm on a slightly different level. Absolutely They definitely that on me before probably. so yeah What's the what's the most shots that you've made in a row in practice D three pointers, Yeah I was doinguring like live play like during like Five on five action or just no like a workout The most are easies you made in a row, yeah might have been seventy two maybe? That's so many shots. That's so many shots It's so fun. I had a question about one of your the assistants, Luke Murray, who's now at Boston College. Was he just would he draw stuff up for you guys offensively because it felt like the one thing that you guys did better than anyone is like You always had different actions that other teams weren't expecting and weren't ready for. And you'd see it like in the bigig schedule it would be a slog, but then the minute, I would say the stat all the time, but like your four years like you guys barely ever lost out of conference. Would he just have things ready to go that just like we just know it's going to work? Yeah, he would have he'd have a bunch of plays drawn up and like you'd always do it out of like the same set or like a formation and really just you think one action is happening, but he has a count or like a different play out of that formation. So really He had a whole bunch of plays and like We do install before every practice and it's like and install the new play. So like and you could see coach and Coach Murary just like talking about and like talking us through it all. and There were a bunch of times too during my career where was like Coach Mary's calling me upstairs and like he's drawing up plays for me and just trying to see my thoughts or If we wanted to draw something up, like try to get ideas for me too. so He was nonstop thinking about new new sets and really just trying to give us an advantage. Yeah. Was there a team that in conference play, you felt like Okay, this is like some actual bad blood Providence provroince was always sharping us, I mean. They hated us. They hated coaches. He was at Rhode Islands Cayon, Crayon would get that Yeah's got some nassy things nasty things and Omaha happens. Yeah. Staint John's recently just with their success as well. so I kind of say those three So you won't even worry about Villanova Villanova got me good with those free throws at one time, but I mean, I've lost to Wait what happened there? I missed two Freeitos for the win against Villa Nova. That was Bad Nova team too. I remember that game. But like what am I? I think I'm like eight in one, seven in one against Nova, so like I'm not's not necessarily worth Yeah. And the one that you lost didn't matter really. It was in my control. so was I miss those fitos so. Yeah Yeah would have clinch the game. pererfect record would have been nice. It would have been nice. Yeah. Wait, where were you committed to UCon when Coach Charie gave the speech, like you better get us now? Yeah, that was I was committed a couple of years after that. Okay F years after that one That still is in all time fact that he called a shot like that. Oh absolutely. is insane. Absolutely. And like we'd played in like hype videos too like before a game like If we're playing Nova, like we'll do a hype video of like getting ready for the Nova game the night before and it's like, clips there every single time. and's so soited to see. That's that's you can't be f That's a fair clip. Yeah. It was com back around. Yeah, when could you tell like this team's coming together This seems actually going to be a real problem I think what to ours? Yeah or Ykon I think it was my freshman year. we went fourteen too in the non confference and like We played some really good teams too like start off undefeated and then bad month, but then we really regrouped and really just found our way in Marchmen is I think But really that first stretch of games like we played like top teams too in the country. I think that's when like we knew that. we had something special. And then you guys were you guys were such a problem in the tournament. It was like It was almost boring to watch in terms of how great you were. as it Did it ever get boring? like winning those games so much? I was like, I'd like to see some good basketball occasionally. It's never born. love you love to kill the teams. I think the really think it like the offense, like the schemames that we run and just how we have so many different plays and actions against every defense imaginable. so I think that's what gave other teams a challenge. and then the bigig East teams, they were so familiar with us that That obviously made it harder harder for us to be in conference than non confference. Do you have a favorite blob that you've ever run U I always like the ones where like we do like backs screens for our centers to get dunkks. like we had what like Sampson Johnson on our team like we'd run like a back screen play for him and like it worked every single time because you just throw it up there and youd dunk it or really just different' like ones where we get shooters open You said that you don't look at any of the mockdrafts. I don't believe you. I swear I don't. I would look at every mock draft. I swear I don't. All right, so I just looked at four mockdrafts. Do want to know where they have you landing Ion't say number, I'll say team How you can say teams. So one of them is the next. Okay. And then three out of four of them that I just looked at. is the spurs D'd be pretty fuckingick. That'd be nice. You could probably pace up Wendby. She should callal out right now. If if I could be with Stehic good, Yeah, that'd be a dream to. That would be awesome. That'd be pretty incredible.ust looking at Th makra, which ultimately they don't mean anything. but not. I mean, if you go to one like your two choice or teams that are playing the finals right now, that's a pretty good spot. Oh as a winner two in college, I mean Yeah this Mck draft says floor spacing passing in a championship DNA. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's all I got to do at the next level. What yeah. What goes into your championship DNA? I think the preparation just being so disciplined with what I do every single day and just really relying on the work that I put in really, just trying to work my ass off every single day on the court in the weight room, in academics, really just trying to be trying to maximize every single day the If I do have a bad game, just lean in my preparation and then Eventually all the days add up to where you'll see success and reach your end goal. What's the preparation like? How many hours a day we spend A Yukon it was u I'd get shots up in the morning. so would that' take goodood forty five minutes to an hour You'd u practice with a coach which three hours, three hour practices U you do film. so that's like an hour, an hour after a loss. Good two and a half, three hours and then you gota do recovery too. So just like another hour of rehab, recovery. emics however long that takes then really just, you know chilling after that and relax and so it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. It is I read that that your vertical What half a foot better. In the last year. Oh, hell yeah. That's a lot. Six inches is a lot. Trust me, She would never imagine that. It's mass, but. That's to do that after you, again, you've been like training and working specifically at basketball, I wasume a lot of drills that would involve getting stronger at jumping. And then you do that in one year, what was it that like you're the most athletic that you've ever been by far I think different exercises in the weightroom, just working a lot more J with more intention in the weight room and then nutrition too, just big on nutrition and just trying to changange my whole diet with that. So I think And then recovery too. I mean, I work a lot and it's like I wouldn't really give my time myself time to rest, I think. learning throughout my career just the importance of recovery too. You should just put the word out there that you're still growing Technically, it's probably true. Yeah. It technically is. Rly. if you draft me, I'm probably going to keep growing. I'll be taller next. I could get a foot taller then increase my vertical even more. and yeah Yeah o else knows? Well this has been awesome, man. We we really appreciate you coming by. We have I have one last question. It's a roowback question. RHO BacK. com promo code takeake twenty percent off your first purchase Qzips, pololos hoodies Joggers shorts Roback d. com promo code take Zach, you ready A you, sir What's going on? How are you today? I'm. How are you? I're doing well, I? You're not hitting him with this sir I think I did I said, yes or how are you? To me? that was a search to the room. Okay I circle that back. We go individual. All right. I a quick question for you. That's cool. Yeah. If me or another traveler were en route to Belarus Is a top three dishes I'd have to try before I made it backstate side? You'd have to ask my dad dad because I think all the dishes are bad. So you've be completely honest with you. L my grandparents, my parents, they would make like different dishes from like, you know, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, whatever it is I try them. think I liked any of them. So like now it gets to the point where it's like we have family gatherings. they'll bring the foods that they like, that me and my siblings will order like pizza or Chinese food like Really just balance it all out. I respect the honesty there. Good question, Zach, you have a follow up? Yeahah, quick follow up W possibly you know NBA contracts in your near future, haveave you given any thought to like Maybe something fun or like quirky you might maybe wouldn't have spent some earnings on, but like, hey, put yourself in this position you work this hard Maybe like get something fun. You get any thought to that I always wanted jet ski. likeike I want to get my sk. They was like from Massachusetts So like I'll go to the Cape a lot. So Cpe Cod and really just buy Jetsy out there and just kick it on it for a couple hours and just really just go wherever I need to go. So I think a jet skki iss up there for me That's good. in terms of things like waste money on that's a pretty I think it's was greates Great answer.. Well, best the luck of the draft man we're rooting for you. and Yeah, Go crush in the NBA. I appreciate you guys for having me. so this was great. So thans. Thanks. Alex Caraban was brought to you by Microsoft. So before we get back into more chaos, we got to tell you about something that helps people focus on what's most important Its Microsoft three hundred sixty five comp piles. 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Do you preface something before you said what you're doing. I'll say right now, I don't think it is rigged There is a part of my idea that might hurt Hank Does that make sense? I don't know what your idea is. I don't know if All right, so there's six of us. There's a hundred numbers in. You're gonna put a couple numbers in there for hank first the world. Hank first the world. So I think so everyone So if you go six times sixteen, that's ninety six numbers. So we go everyone has, you know, like PFTs one through sixteen Th then Zach is seventeen through. I'm going to need some help with the math here. seventeen through whatever that is. thirty two. Yeah. I keep going up And then if it's ninety seven, ninety eight or ninety nine, it's hank first to work I don't think that math Does Do that m And by hank versus the world, you mean that It's teams of it's it's the booth versus me you one solo Are you okay with? I mean, the odds are in your favor that that's not going to happen. I think one it should be one number for the three of us versus the world Okay. Okaykay. That's fair. Or should we do see no, no no. I agree, but I'm saying what we should do is maybe one through fifteen so then they all have numbers too So everyone has a verse to world number You know what I'm saying? Yeahes what about this? So what if we did, I don't know if this is what you're thinking, but we we draw the number and let's say it's bigig cat that's one through sixteen. And the number fourteen pops up. so that's a big cat Th then Big Cat gets first pick in the draft. And you don't was to pick somebody. I was going to do it. I was going to be random. So it was going to be Yeah draw number. So if it's like if you're one through fifteen, it's number ten and I'm sixteen through thirty. If the first number is ten, the second number is twenty, you and I are teeen. Okay You know what I'm saying Yeah I I think that makes sense. So all right, I'm writing it out right now Bank has forty six through sixty. We're not math guys. so I just want to say that just everyone Everyone chill out on the math and if we get this wrong. So fifteen that would get us to ninety though. So there would be ten numbers. Yeah. So everyone everyone gets two U or everyone gets one Everyone gets one and we' throw we'll thow we'll throw a couple out Yeah Okay we throw out All right. So so PFT has ninety one. I ninety two. I think all the leftovers should be Maybe two teams this mount Rushmore season. It's literally everybody against Hank We could do three v three I got it, I got it. Okay. got it. All right, I trust you I trust. Is one hundred in there Yes Okay hundreds in there U, Okay. so it's going to be so PFTs number one through fifteen. I'm sixteen through thirty memess thirty one through forty five Hank forty six through sixty Zach sixty one through seventy five, Max seventy six through ninety. Everyone's got fifteen numbers If the number ninety one comes up, PFT versus the world. ninety two and actually it's ninety one and ninety seven PFT or your two numbers. ninety two, ninety eight are my two numbers Mmes ninety or Hank Uh ninety three, ninety nine c Max ninety four one hundred and then Zach and memes will be ninety five and also eleven Both of them get eleven. So if the first eleven happens, it's memes, if the second eleven happens, it's that I don't know how we decide the different elevens. So wait, if what if it picks like we've I've gotten myself confused. Yeah. So yeah, because what if it' two eleven my numbers and what it mes to be the eleven? Memess to be the eleven. arere we saying that whenever any of the eleven wit, wait wit waitait Is it saying that if any of the us versus the world pops up that then wipes out everything else corct O it wipes out everything else. Okay. So that's the game breaker. Yeah. Okaykay. Yeah actly right U Is there er is double zero in there? No. Oh, zero' in there. Perfect. Wait zero is also zero. zero is in there both in there. Yeah, zero's in there. All right, so we're good. So we all have numbers. Uh yeah, so eleven wipes everything out Yes. Yeah Zach will just not have a second number. You're going to get zero through fifteen. eleven doesn't count for you. Okay. Okay. So I have ninety four and one hundred my vers of world Okay ninety you sorry, you have ninety six and ninety nine. H has ninety four and a one hundred. I have ninety six, ninety nine.. All right. I think we got it. I think I got it. Okay. All right. I got it. I wrote it all down U Zach, you don't have a second number for Zach vers the worldor So let's say in fairness sake, if the same number comes up twice then it's Zack first Okay. Okay. so at any point if the same number comes up tw that Yeah that works. Yeah. Okaykay? Y sir. All right, so we're ready to go The first of the world would be something. Now are we also guessing numbers No, o. All right. so just just a recap PFT has num zero through fifteen for his regular like team And ninetine except for eleven Except for eleven. ninety one in ninety seven Couldn't be more clear.y one in ninety seven is his verse of the world I have sixteen through thirty, ninety two and ninety eight are my se the world. Memes has thirty one through forty five ninety three and eleven are his verse the world Hank has forty six and sixty ninety four and one hundred are his verse of the world. Zach has sixty one to seventy five ninety four and any doubles are his verse of the world, Max you have seventy six through ninety ninety six and ninety nine are your verse to world. Okay I'm just going to rely on you because I Whatever number comes up first will be the first person who is they will be up and then whoever second, obviously it's them on team U this also I just realized we're going to get a vers of world. We what he's going to be I also just realized we're going to have to just keep hitting the lottery ball machine because once someone's up, then it's going to keep coming up to their numbers. whatever Listen, we're not, the odds have now come down to like, we're definitely gonna to get a verse toward. I'm now remembering why we deced not to use it this way last year. Yeah. Yeah butudy could the numbers are there's way too I think it's more of a chance we do It's just not true. Yes because we're going to No it's one out of fifty seven. So that is Hank. Hank. you are the first person up Whoever comes up next, that will be your teammate What if it's of versse the world. Then that's the game breaker. No. Yeah, yeah, we're goty we got a max I'm like pretty confident it makes more sense. L No, this is gonna work, I think. I think the odds of it being versse world are very good because it wipes out a rs. Yeah And then we just stop at least we'll stop the drawing if that happens Hank is teamed up with Zack. Let's go. Let's go hank.ank and Zackal in. Hank and Zack A teeam chemistry has been great the last two days. Couldn't have started off hotder. Yeah. I mean, none of this matters. It's going to be a versa world. Don't say that. don don't That's not true. There's ninety options and it's not versa posos. No because so many gam because now, wait a minute, wait a minute stop No no, no. no, donon't say that O PFT Europe up. Okaykay. Because we're just stoping. stop playing time zones for you. You just can't be No, I'm right But just now there's back so many more options. You stop You stop You stop, you stop. Literally if this next number is one of our numbers, we're done. then say Yeah. we have the te. you stop hit Oh Oh shit. Oh no. PFT versus awwards. Aing. Bring it on. Bring it on. I love it. I love So so so I think should it be Zach and Hank should stay as the team. Yeah and be Max and memes and first PFTing fif world Can't wait canan't wait. I love man I love it. Ws PT first the world is I'm useds the world is great. I'm used to it Bring it Can't wait canan't wait to see Zach and Zach and Hank just eat each other alive I know the team could have two divas on it at the same time You guys are going to destroy each other. bad chemistry Memess is just going to wreck your team because he thinks that you guys are both losers I'm all I got that a problem. Yeah. It is a problem. P PFT versus worldor is so good Okay The only question I have is because it kind of sucks if it's a the team of three kind of sucks because it's like Well I guess it doesn't matter. Now. I was going to say if you want to, if you want to go One other person versa world two with like one four teams this year couldould be interesting. pair up the M, Max and Mmes figure out who the two of us are paired and then the third is just also first away. other person against the world just going maybe the the next number of your three numbers that comes up Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. the next number of we're making this fourour teams, but now it's not world. Four teams t. All right. fourour teams tough. All right ye. I was just thinking Yeah, you right It was forty four. What have been means You would have hated that Okay I can't wait canan't wait. If there's one thing I'm really good at it's my Rush More season. You're really good. Finally, I don't have Hank to weigh me down as a teammate. And then we'll on Monday when we do our first Mount Rushmore, we will also declare our punishment Okay Sounds good. Sounds great. happened All right, Hank, you ready? Can youag if there was a duel, likeike if there's a one verse three duel at the end of the summer That's a dream. that's the dream M me, Max in memes are Nolos It will be it could be a duel versus p and me. I might just Zack. Yeah might We're are I would get Zack. I would argue the the three of us are the are the three best players about Rush M. H and Zack for sure could be. That's a I mean, Hanks is terrible That feels like an early selly from you guys. Yeahly early you guys are the three like dream team? Is is Vince Young over there Well, we're just basing off analytical Yeah. I'm actually not I'm probably third. I think Max and Mmess are the best Let's not forget Qeen Latifa. Queen Lif was a tough pick. Max is the best Jerome Bettis as long as Max lost mount rush moreore season..ome Queen Lifia the list goes on. M is as long as Max stay away from meatballs he's pretty' you know, meatballs was That was my hot street. That's true. You've had some terrible picks in your day to. T f. Yeah. that was. I take it back. I take it back. This is gonna be That was awwesome pick. Take it back. What color is cheese also correct pick. take it back. Okay Fire had a pick. that was just a fight. Hank, Fire Fest I had a good week. This week is one of those weeks that every day kind of felt like Thursday, which is good. felt like, you know, right before the weekend. I almost killed someone on the golf course day is Friday a week top so Fel like every day was uesday That's interest because Hank used to say that Friday night was not a weekend. Yeah. But you just said, like It feels it's about to be the weekend everyvery day feels like Thursday. Every day feels like Thursday Loki the longest week ever iff differentere sorts for different pos. Yeah, that's why it's funny yeah. U I say, no real fire fest. I did alm kill someone in the golfse today that was almost It wasn't a firefest though that they survived. He h it Five feet in front of a guy walking on the path along Lake shhore And the guy put up his arms. We Hank yelled for the guy put up his arms after the ball had gone by No no. Yeah. he wasasn't even playing golf, which was which was the he was just walking. Yeah there's a pad. Yeah. He was just an innocent bystander that like happened to be wal walking by a golf course. You almost like it was dead. He would be dead. would be dead. Head on a swivel So you got no fire fest Yeah, my car's leaking Our pugs got cancellled the water. a cool ass car? My cool ass car, it might be time for an upgrade. Damn whyy don't you fix a car? Every time it rains, everyvery time it rains, it just leaks water. What do you mean it leaks water? Close the windows,. No,'s not's the windows are closed. It's from like sun the sunroof, the sun roof. It closes the sun roof. It He got a gasket issue. And also his trunk is broken which I think is all relates back to the water. You think the water got into the trunk I think it messes with the mechanics of the car But everything else works except for the trunk. That's classic water. always going after the trunk for Yeah I don't know You try to take that to a mechanic see what's on? I know I brought to the shop. I brought my car to the shop so many times where I'm just I' sick of I'm sick of it I need to upgrade. That's tough man. some people can maintain cars, some people can't Yeah I guess I guess I can't. Okay. This is good fire f us. Thanks My Fire Fest of the week is about a new invention that just came out. I don't know if you guys saw this. We talked about like the AI robots so far, we've seen like the robotic dogs that serve to like Gard your house, we've seen the AI bartenders There's a new invention that I got debuted this week that I'm concerned about The AI powered autonomous robot toilets. They just got debuted at some trade show over in China in Shanghai. Okay. And apparently you like snap your fingers and you're in bed and this toilet just wheels itself into your room pulls up next to the bed Is like come on, sit on me, big daddy And then you just sit on it, do your business, and then it goes away and like takes care of whatever you just put into it. whichich sounds it sounds super convenient, especially if you're out of place. like I don't know, parade where you can't have a toilet anywhere. you just bring your like little R two D two shitter with you. But then I start to think about it If they ever get self aware. Yeah, these are the robots that are going to kill us first. Yes is the ones that we've been shitting in their mouths for the last twenty years. Yeah and being like snapping our fingers. come over here so I can piss down your throat robot These are the ones that would I would be more fearful of than like the Skynets or those robot dogs. They're getting abused. like Yeah, this room's toilets Yeahagine Max's toilet being able to talk? Max is going to die first in the robot in the robot uprising. God cram. Too many meatballsanks Hanks the most recent Hanks the F guy now. He is a far' the Fark guy. Well, Hanks also got the most tummy issues on our podcast by far. I've always had tummy issues. Yeah I know but it's literally like we'll have just a regular meal and you'd be like never again That's a place down the street. I've had I have had issues with that since we moved here and I've sworn it off and then we had it at the office. I was like, Ohh I'll a chicken breast Still not tell me. It with the tummyve Dee's got stomach issues. I'm of poop. I'm very re. It's a big difference. It's a pooper. I got healthy healthy poop that comes at the same time 's always writing time rightight before we start right before we start podcasting. That's when it comes out I mean, some dudes like puke before every Josh Allen Throw us up before every football game M before every podcast. Wait, so your fire fest is that there's robot toilets and not that you missed your producer on macrodosing's birthday. We don't have to get into that. I did So here's the thing on Thursday's episode I wish her a happy birthday. We taped on Wednesday I wish her a happy birthday And she goes, than wait what Oh on We t yeah, taped on Wednesday for Thursays. episode comes out Tuesday Thursday Hank. And then when I said that to her, she goes Thank you My birthday was yesterday on Tuesday So I was even I was even a day late after forgetting on Monday's show. So happyirthday to McKenzie Sorry about that But no, that's not my farire fit. My fire fest is that I truly believe that these are the robot toilets that will one day stand up and kill. Why do you need AI toilets? That's what I'm saying Like it seems like we're running up the score on the robots at this point They're going be like dude, you didn't Just go to the bathroom. you already had a toilet Seems like you just took a sick pleasure. in defecating Yeah on on robots. Yeah and all my brethren. So I feel like that's I don't know. we're putting a lot of bullets and board material up for the robots at this point if we're taking dumps on them. Agreree. Did I tell you guys I've recently become a baday guy The days are nice I feel like you should have always been a big guy. I should have seemed to right up your all. I know. I was always a little nervous ' It's a little sace. I'd rather just, you know crram my fingers up my ass and I don't water going up there. I don't really understand how b like I've seen bidays. I've sat on bidays I don't trust myself to operate a biday correctly. Well, mine's a toilet biday So it's not like the, you know how there's theidays that you like go and sit on after Europe No, I've I've sat on the toilet today days. Yeah. the Europe ones don't make sense at all. Yeah. You just kind of have to hover They're not like comfortable to sit on. S you don't sit on though. I't think you gott to hover on it Maybe maybe you can't sit on them. Like that that thing, I look at that thing. I'm like, that's a urinal. Yeah don't like I agree. or like a drinking like Yeah. Yeah. It does. It looks like I just take a big lap out of it like just a big dog. I don't trust the ones that don't have like the built in dryer Bilt in dryer.ine has mine has I have heated seats, which is incredible. My bathroom, my toilet seat is just always warm And then the toilet opens up when I stand in front of it. so I don't have to open the toilet. That's so sick and rich. Yeah That's like the richest thing that you got. It It's scared the fuck out of my three year old. He started crying because he walked by the toilet and it opened up and he was just like, what the fuck? You walk your bathroom, your toilet's like, comeome on, give it to me. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. Um, Okay, my fire Fest. I had a pretty good week too Um Im trying to think. Oh, I mean, listen, this is this is to to any parents out there. I'm finally My son's seventh birthday, my oldest is seventh birthday is today Friday. And so I have all my kids are within like six weeks of each other. parents probably know this the birthday stretch is the worst because it's just there's so much talk about birthdays in my house and it's just been presents and birthdays and like the week comes and like countdowns and all that stuff. So I've finally cleared that Gonna to go see Toy Story five He's going to have a party, watch Toy Story five. I'm excited for that. But yeah, birthday stretch And I don't do like it's really my wife has to do. she plans a birthday party. but its it's stressful. You don't realize it, but Birthday sock. Laser tag U No, I just said we're going to Toy Story. We why to know about the other two. Oh, the other two one was sllime Factory, which was probably the grossest place I've ever been in my life U It's literally just buckets of slime that the kids go and touch And then three year old we don't do we don't do birthdays till birthday parties until four in my house. So we had a cake and a family birthday party, but we didn't Th year old stock You don't have friends He's got one friend. they get they have like a fight club. It's fucking hilarious. How how do you manage Fun for school though. How do you man Be being being when they're older. Yeah, having having June birthdays is awesome Yeah. how do you manage when it's it's not their it's their brother or sister's birthday? It's a problem That's also also my birthday is soon too. Right. But can't we say it's my birthday also. And then they get upset that like someone else has presence and like, but you just had your birthday. Yeah my three year old, yeah, he's in a he came home with like scratches all over his face and I was like, what happened you get scratched? And he was like, yeah, my friend Teddy scratched me. I was like, what happened Why he's scratchy? He's like, I was hitting him. It's like, o, okay, well, I guess that's mutual. Yeah. mutual agreed combat. I guess what do we learn today Nothing, yeah. human body creates contact Okay, Zach finishes off My preface this week is just that it is a tough week for guys who just who pick one side of the mess Rinalda argument. Yeah This week was really Re hard to defend as a Ronald defender. you're anly sure how to come back this. I disagree with the premise of your firefight. You said it's a tough week for guys to pick one side or another of the messy Ronaldo thing. I don't think that's true. No. I think it's tough for guys to pick One side, the wrong side. We've had a great week over here. It's been incredible. That's a fair point on the fifty fifty side picking, yes. Why L I know we talked about Ronaldo Messi at the start of the show and with Roger Bennett, but like what's your deal? You like penalty kicks? I think the free kick is like the most electric way to scorn. Messy does that too. I know, but not like Ronaldo all Hows do the like little stutter step when he got gets up to the ball It's unbecoming Look I'm really sad. I'm open enough to come to you guys and say this is the worst part of my week in saying so, I understand where the The pitfalls are in the argument picking one side as opposed to picking another side. Also it's like one of the guys is a good dude and the other is like a world class asshole Here's a crazy stat I just saw Cristiano Ronaldo has sixty five career free kick goals That is a lot. Stong but it's a strong sixty five. Yeah. Messy has seventy one. This isn't Why would you why's nuance Ronaldo's the free kick gold becausecause there's nuance in this. Oh okay. It's not black and white. Okay. But but you said Ronaldo, there's something about the free kick. Yeah, there is. There's something about the free kick and Messi's done it more time. I think maybe the one argument you can make against Messy is that He has never scored a goal in a knockout game in the World Cup And that's a fair I would say that's a fair argument that you should make against Messi. Wait no, I'm sorry Rald has actually g Oh, no. I got my name is mixed up. M he scored a shitload of goals. He's won a world He won like almost single handedly. Yeah, that's right. It's also true Okay, Which one would you rather hang out with that IMessy seems to be a little more likeable. Yeah, yeah, yeah ye. But there's really nothing that you have on your side other than apps be W fast I show speed. No I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking about acceleration on the pitch. I was talking about actual speed. Who does I show speed like better Is it Renault? Are you Are you attracted to Ronald? Not No there is a deep because that actually what is I showow spepeed. I I never get into it. Ihow spepeed is famously and passionately team Ronaldo with messy first But that the whole That's the whole show that's his whole thing is Ronaldo So you're a sheep So that the so the prepose of my argument does come back to something a little bit deeper if we're going to get into it. My my entire childhood growing up, I got one brother We're getting on FIFA twenty eleven and on. he's playing a messy. I'm playing with an all. So I cantcede this argument ever in my life. you' probably actually there's a lot that's actually I've been trying to tell you that for a while. Yeah So I can't concede this argument, but I see the great points you guys are making, but there's one guy who is better. I would think that you would play on the same team as your brother and you'd only play goalie based on your tattoo No, we play we used fight a lot growing up. We play on different teams. just we play the same team Literally my brother's keeper. I'd hop in that for. Yeah. Yeah. I would All right, that actually makes more sense. Yeah, for sure. So it's not that you're physically attracted, sexually attracted to. No, no real sexual tension when it comes to an. What if you had to pick one or the other to hang out with? No, sexually. S being boys? seexual. I mean I think Mess you might want to don me a little bit better. Oh you're like Messy for everything except for Ihow Speed and your brother just No, Ronaldo, if we're picking side on this argument, but I feel like if somebody's taking you out to a date, I feel like Mess you might He treat you better. He might have better rese, yeah. Yeah Like reservation. Yeah, you can take me to dinner we' drink some wine, maybe first. I think Ronald' is a sneaky link guy I think's shooting text and expecting to show up. I think Ronaldo's hookup resume leaves a little bit to be desired too Fair points for both camps. Yeah. Can I say five percent point? Yeah there's never been a more clear winner of a sports debate Yeah. It's not even LeBron versus Jordan. No. Like it's not in the same stratosphere. No. I saw somebody tweet that I'm closer to Ronaldo than Ronaldo was to Messy at this point. Yeah. And it's like Messi just running up the score on him. It's honestly, I'm reaching the point where I feel bad. likeike he's like an old dog that you see out on the field. It's like, dude just call it a day. Yeah I just wanted to get ahead on why I can't concede, but so that you got some great points there. Okay. Max was your fire first us You guys aren' gonna to like this one And I because it's been it's been a long time it's been a long time comon got married The the wedding planning is is is hitting the stride now and it's it's a rp. Wit. how how is it hitting the stride? You're getting married a week a half. Sh it be planned? Well, you got to you got to think this sort of guy that I am is that I I put a lot of things off until right now and now and now I got to do a lot of things. So I'm going home every single day this week And it's just and it's just wedding stuff. I was putting together the seating chart The seating chart is a puzzle that can't be it's like putting together a puzzle of pieces that don't fit. So it's like you don't have the right pieces, but you have to put this puzzle together One of the guy one of my friends just wasn't on the list. I thought I finished it and then by the end of the end of it I was going through all the names He wasn't on the list. That stressed me the fuck out because then you got to start from scratch and just restart the entire the entire fucking thing And then it makes me worry, Is there anybody else that I missed?? Am I going to show up? am I going to show up to this wedding? I would be like, I don't have a place for you. I got to figure out where you're going to sit. Wedding it it sucks. It was way better when I just did like my family and that was it. and I didn't have to worry about anything. Now there's people coming It's a lot. Wedding planning is super stressful. I've like stayed up at night this week. Just st stressing about wedding planning. In the next couple of weeks're probably going to get a couple people to h you up. They're like, Hey, man, sorry forgot to RVP. canan you put me in? No, yeah. I've already got had a couple of that But that's a lot. Yeah. and then and you're like, Yeahah, Max. Yeah I sure can. Max. Max, do you have a binder? Is there a wedding binder at home No, no, it's just a lot of Excel sheets that I don't really know how to work Excel. Nax I told you love your fiance. She's great Now it's over. like let's just fucking get the fuck out of here, dude. Get in the car. Let's get in Hank's shitty car with his with his broken trunk and his leak, and let's just hit the road We could do it, dude. Fuck 'em all Just bros for life. We'd have to come back for the show on Sunday. Yeah I' be fine. go. No it could be like we could just hit the road as bros forever. Yeah Just the buddies that never came back. Come on, Max. I had a friend that got married recently who just said fuck it to the soting chart And just I see yourself. Do that. I was so doing that. It was insane. I was so close to doing it. But it was funny kindind of The seating shar Everyone everyone everyone's everyone's s Yeah. It's it's the wor it's the worst part. it's the worst part of planning is it because now I I got in a spot that I'm like mostly good about But I'm also a people pleaser. and now all I'm thinking about is the people that are that I know aren't in The most desirable seat and I'm just thinking about how they're going to be motherfucking me Yeah while they're sitting that while they're sitting at this table going that I just spent a billion dollars on. Yep. It's never going to be good enough for. No. it's not somebody's going to be motherfucking me. Yep. And my wife just keeps saying like whatever, you'll never hear about it, but it's like, I need to know I need to know who's saying. If you don't hear it for me, but then you think it could be everybody Like I was a suspect. I keep saying like, I'm going gethead of it and like tell the people that they're not in the best spot. are going to be drunk I know I know, but it's no one gives a fuck. They're gonna to be drunk. This is it's So it need wedding. You're fine. Everyone's gonna to be having the time of their life. Max is right. Everyone's gonna hate you. No,. They're gonna sit down at the Paradise Island and they're gonna to be like, Max,' such a fucking dick for making me sit here All right, numbers fififty ninety five, six No zero ninety. twenty seven. forty twenty five. forty five seventeen, Re reggular zero on it Regulularars here. Shan, you okay now that you're not the Tieram Misuka anymore Yeah, I'm fine. Zact regular zero for the number of goals Pinaldo has scored besides penalty kicks in the last two a cs Tan. Messy and every other good player Yeah No that was tough. Yeah That was tough. That was tough. There's a lot of quality tenens out there. Wait Chrisher he's what? seven? Oh He's actually not a. So ten is the number that you get in soccer when you're really good. Yeah, Maradana. If you guys really blue to That's that's messy number If only one of you guys would have taken it. Yeah H Okay. Good show Love you guys. Also, sorry about missing your birthday, Mcenzie. That one's on me big weekend of birthdays coming up. So happppy birthday. Enjoy your weekend to the following people Leonard Williams, Drk Stingley Teril Prior Mattlynn, Dern Sprols Fabelo Darkco Milich. Rampage Jackson Turkewitsky Lou Garg Quinting jammer to Gram Mac Lamore and Anthony Kem from the F As. Nice Oh yeah Love you guys