Choosing Names for Future Grandchildren

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Exactly. You've got amazing ride, the weather's great. But for me, the thing I like most is sometimes with my kids, I feel like I'm watching them on their own holiday. If we just go for a normal beach holiday, they're in the pool with their mates, they're in the sea, me and Lou are just laying down, resting or reading or whatever, but it feels like we're having two separate holidays. Whereas at Disney in Florida, I do feel like we're all on holidays, like a group of four mates, as well as being mum and dad and kids, all experienced stuff. So like we come off the road and like, oh my god, that what do you like about that? And we we're all chatting and connecting as a family. So that's that's what I like about it most. Another thing. Yeah. Which people don't realise . It is humongous. Four parks, two water parks. It's massive. There's loads of there's Animal Kingdom, then there's Star Wars Galaxy Edge. There's so much going on. In two weeks you can't really do it all. Then he's got the Magic Kingdom and then the Fireworks Show. And you' justre like How is all this in one place? Epcot, walk around. Oh do you want to go in Japan? Yeah, I don't mind if I do. Should go in Mexico? Yeah, well, how far is it? Two minute walking. Dare I say it Rob in? There's something for everyone. Do you know what you need to do? What? Start planning your Disney Damre holiday today. Where would I go? Get yourself on DisneyWorld.co.uk. Terms and conditions apply. Attractions are subject to availability and change. For more information, visit DisneyWorld.co.uk. This episode is brought to you by Pizza Express. Now serving up After School Club, a selection of Pizza Express favourites for just five pounds each. Available three to five Monday to Friday. It's a tasty way to reclaim those family moments. There's kind on the wallet too. Ah, Rob, also you get the after school meltdowns, don't you? They're hungry, they're tired, they're one wants to sit in the front, one wants to choose the music. Or oh you've brought the wrong snack or you get home and they want to watch different things on TV. Josh, when the kids come out of school and like they just throw their bags at you, say I'm hungry, arguing with each other about who sits where in the car. It's it's full of Couldn't agree more, Rob, and do you know what ? When you find yourself in that situation, in my experience, there's no 330 meltdown that can't be calmed with a five pound serving of dough balls. For more info about what's included and how to redeem, visit PizzaExpress.com Terms App ly . Hello, you're listening to Parent in Hell with Can you say Rob ? Beckett . Can you say Josh? Josh Widak um. Well done. Swansea. Lester. There you go. Linebast. My two year old daughter Ania uh doing the intro. I've been waiting patiently until she was old enough to say and I think she gave it a very good go. All of it. Solid. E maybe from Swansea originally. Yeah. Do you wanna do you want some physical comedy, Rob? Yeah, come on, give it to me. So I'd lost the these are my reserved glasses. Yeah. Nice taut of shelves. I really like them, but one of the things has fallen off. Okay. But you t you can't see it, so it's fine. Makes you look um bookish and too busy with literacy to um literacy? No literature. L that's it. To um be bothered by looks. I think it's quite charming. You look like uh sort of Mark Darcy kind character. Okay, right, good. So it's 'cause I lost my main glasses. Yeah. Well the well obviously you don't know where. Where? Right, so then this morning put these on, went downstairs. Yeah . Got dressed just put on some old trousers. Old trousers, yeah. You know, like trousers from the floor from a few days. Oh sorry, trousers you wore before . Yeah, yeah, trousers from the floor, yeah. So did you just put trousers on the floor that you've worn before? Well, there's a bit of a problem at the moment 'cause our builders are doing my wardrobes are uh behind a dust sheet because my builders are building a hole in the room my wardrobes are in. Got ya. Normally I'll put my old trousers on like a chair. Yeah, well things are all a bit No, I'm not criticizing you. But basically on a floor trousers. Haven't worn them for say three days. Okay . Put them back on. Yeah . Downstairs, w uh make a cup of tea , put my hands in my pocket unthinkingly, just get my glasses out of my pocket and put them on top of my camera glasses with that . That's lovely. Didn't even think. And they actually fit quite well on. They do, don't they? So you got double So I got double glasses. Double glass. I put on double glasses. When I picked them out of the pocket, I wasn't even thinking, oh, there are my glasses. I just was like Out of Out of Boom. Straight on, double glasses. Straight on, double glasses. At least you found them. Yeah. Good. I've now got two pairs of glasses. So when do you reckon you took them off like late at night? Yes, because I'm sleeping on the floor. Well your trousers are. No wonder they're on the floor. Well, I haven't got a bedside table. So I used to put them on the floor table. Floor side table. I haven't got a floor side table. So I used to put them on the bedside table. Yeah. But now I'll they're always getting lost because I'm like taking them off and then putting them in my pocket or something because I'm like, where should I put these? Y that's safe. What 'cause I don't want to just leave them on the floor. No, because that's dangerous. So you wanna leave them on the floor hidden inside a trousers. Exactly. Exactly. In a room that the builders are in. Exactly. When what's your timeline for sleeping in a bed? Um about eight hours a night. Ideally. Time of recording. And is that because the building work or building work in my daughter's and my son's room at the moment. Right, okay. So at the moment you're all just you're basically as a family moving from room to room and your son and wife are in the bed and you and your daughter on the floor. Yeah. How does she feel about sleeping on the floor? She went in the bed the other day. With Rose and your son? No, with Rose. She was like, I've got to have a go. And so where's your son on the floor with you? Do you know what? I think Rose went on the floor as Rose went on the floor and she's like, this is awful. And I was like , Yeah. Jeff, you've got to see . Is it worth while the building that's getting on just buying a cheap double bed or single bed mattresses that you can put in round the side that says the floor becomes beds Well we are on mattresses ? You are actual proper mattresses. No, what mattresses you are? Maybe we should just buy a bed. I just think but if you've got space, why don't you just buy another bed and just accept that you now live in Charlie and the chocolate factory? Why don't we buy one of the beds? Why don't we think about the beds that are uh bu buyyer a bed that's going to be used in one of the other rooms when they're ready. Yeah, and then you just move it Yeah. I think you can't know no wonder you feel tired. Yeah just accept it and go, right, we're all in the same room for the next four months while we do renovations. And then once the building work's done, we can try and get the kids back in their rooms. This is Jessica Hines. You can't sleep on the floor. Sorry, I thought yeah. You can't no you can't just sleep on the floor. This is Jessica Hines. There you go . Jessica Hines, welcome to the show. Thank you. Can I start Can I start with s some huge praise? Uh yes. Always. Because it's rare that we have someone on who I remember just being incredible like when I was g into comedy before I did comedy . So you being Cheryl in the Royal Family, which was the first time I really came across you, I think, would that be Um Well I think it w that was kind of almost simultaneous to almost the same year in fact. Was it a few years were so first child ren? Was it? No way. And that's why he brought it up because he's so good at linking stuff back to parents in house. So you had your first child as everything just broke in one kind of Yes, that's correct. Wow. And what was that like? Like I think you can imagine what that was like. Would you like the coffee table nearer you to put your tea down? That's very kind. I don't mind holding it. No, because I put it in front of you and then Josh came in and moved it back. He did, didn't he? No, no, no, it's okay. Yes. They can share it, you guys. There you go. Yeah. I'll just keep mine on the floor. Yeah, so this cast is older. I think they were both kind of filmed at the same time, but they're not sure which one came out first. And were you pregnant in either of them? No. No. No. So how old would you have been at that point? I was just twenty five. Just twenty five.. Yeah And so your whole life just changes in one kind of year. Yeah. I mean I did I did I think I'd I you know, I was already you know I mean I did kinda pack I'd already packed in quite a lot anyway. Yeah. You know. Twenty five's quite young though it's sort of like in the world of acting TV to have a child and also two massive shows for that point that really launched you into sort of like popular culture. So was it an overwhat like how did that year feel? at the time Well it felt like I was just packing a lot in. Yeah. Pack a packing a lot in . But you know when you come to the second series of spaced are you doing that one with a small truck are you writing it and recording it? Simon came over and there was we had a little office that was nearby so I could come back and forth while I was writing. So it's a put is that is that a the perfect as like actor writer is that the perfect job the writing job with a newborn baby or 'cause that being on set and early starts is you're a bit more logistics all over the place. Yeah I mean I wouldn't necessarily say that but, it's definitely or of the pro it during the process it's definitely, you know, easier, I would say, because it's less intense and obviously there's less early morning. Yeah. Um So how many kids have you got and what are their ages now? They're three, they're all grown up. So they're not really kids anymore. They're all adults. So what's why does that mean I'm not technically No, you're still a parent. So how do you want to go? When do I can I reinvent myself now ? As a non-parent. You can reinvent yourself as a non-cause I have really done it. I've done a great job. So what so if you introduce hang up my, you know, lectures. If they were here now, how would you introduce them then if you don't want to be the parent if you're not a parent anymore they are th they're my children obviously And are they all moved out? Yeah pretty much. I mean the thing is I think you know, like we we we were all together a lot, but yeah, they have to be much. Do you feel nostalgic when you think back to those times, those early times where you Well I do say I mean your kids, the ages that your kids are, yours are ten and eight, aren't they? and yours Ten and eight and yours are eight and four. Yeah. It must be really annoying when people say, which I'm sure they do, Oh my God, just enjoy it. Enjoy it. Enjoy it and you're thinking, What are you talking about? Like how are you which you wanna make exactly that's why you're doing this podcast but it's actually it's so you know, yes, enjoy it. And you know, uh if there's one thing I would say is is do go back to the place that they that is the most simplest nicest place to go on holiday. Yes You don't need anything fancy. Literally just a different place. That's easy and you know where everything is easy. They eat the pasta in that restaurant. You know there's no steps to the beach. He's got it. Thank you. Rob's got it. There's only one thing I do well on that's holidays. Do you, Rob? Oh I can oh I love t hearing about ho family holidays. Yeah, I do. We we go hard on holidays and experiences over things more so, I'd say us. That is so good. And do you tend to be a main experience is repeatedly going on rides in Florida but it's still an experience. Is that where you go back if you you do regularly go back to the same place? We regularly go back there to do the ride the kids love all the rides at like university We know them all stuff and then we go to there's a few different uh um resorts that we go to where we've been to before that are really good so we're we're very comfortable going back then the kids love it and we love it and we know that if we go there we're gonna relax straight away. Yeah. When I was a kid we used to go to the same place every year. Nice Pembrokeshire in West Wales. Um and Pembrokeshire's lovely. But I think I because we went every year, I think I've actually got more fond nostalgic memories of that place 'cause it felt like we were going than if we'd dotted around and you gone, Oh yeah, we went on that holiday we're on the the going to the same place actually makes it almost more vivid in a way. Absolutely and c and 'cause you kind of they almost merge and and when and when everyone's talking about it, everyone's like, is that was that the time that oh no no 'cause that what year was that? And was I was I eight or was I f was I five or you know and I and I do think going back and going back to the same place is such a good shout. Yeah. I do. That's that's the only thing that that's the only I would never ever give parent advice to anyone. Yeah. Ever. But like that is something that I do tentatively suggest. And they go, Yeah, we've got that worked out. Well we we always used to go to this place uh a at one point. We don't need to be specific. No, I'll give you the address. This is where we will be. No, it's just this gorgeous we used to rent these gorgeous little holiday cottages just down in Cornwall. That was it. And it lovely fields, little creek, and it was the most beautiful place, run by people who were so friendly and welcoming and lovely. And you know and yeah, I we went there to the point where at one point one of the kids was like, Do we it's do we own this? It was like no we do not if only 'cause it was just this beautiful, really simple place. And you get there and you can just run out of the car, run out in the fields and then everyone disappears and comes back with loads of stories. Oh god. So that's happened. And then they're down there. And they're in the river. And I don't know if we can get it back again. But if you anyway I've got to go back again. But I I need some crisps. I need some uh I need something to drink. And then and that's like the best. The best, the best. Um so I wish we'd done that more the s most simple simple thing. Have you gone back since they've grown up? Oh yeah, yeah. We've gone the saddest. Anyway, we'll we'll be there. Just letting you know our dates. Um obviously we'll we'll we'll be at the same place, so just let us know if you need picking up the station. Um we can get you from Newcastle and bring you down. Exactly. But yes. Yes, exactly. But that was but that was kind of magical as well 'cause we kinda know the people who actually do own the places and then that and that's sweet, so build a relationship with them. Are they um are they uh near sort of having families of their own or are they very much sort of mid twenties sort of living their life? But that I mean that for me, I mean that's like yeah, then you have they could potentially be near having families if they but that's I think they're the years where they go missing the most for parents. Yeah. Because when they do have kids that's when they gravitate back to sort of home normality advice or childcare and but that t with that twenties a bit of their they're off. Yeah. You know. Do you did you both gravitate back to like So I've just moved back to Devon. In back into your parents' house? I've just moved back into my parents my wife's just divorcing we'll move back to later. No, she okay, right. Good. No, we we you need the help, Josh. You need the help. Just not wanting to be a parent thing to come full circle. No, so I moved away when I was 18, went to I grew up in Devon, went to Manchester and then came to London for like twenty years. But then we were just finding where we lived in London too much for the kids. So we moved back to Devon, but not exactly where I grew up. It's not like the and so they're going to the same school and all. No, yeah. But yeah, I never, ever, ever thought that would happen. Did you ever, ever, ever think that you were gonna have children? No. There you go. Did you? Yeah, I always wanted a family and kids. Yeah. Did you I did. I do love babies. I've always loved babies. You know, and obviously that's that's that's a big help. I mean it's it's not it's not a total game train. I mean, you know, it's not a total prerequisite, but it does help. I do love babies. To the point that that I would often like make friends with babies, like other people's babies. Oh would you? In a queue. crying on an aeroplane. Oh I would offer always offer to hold. Really? Oh I would I would hover around, you know, if they're there by the looes just rocking the baby, I'd just kind of go. Well, in some cases maybe perhaps I should have waited for a yes because um you've clucked like the bike. I'm just joking, of course I've waited for a yes. But yeah, no, I mean but surprisingly but then it becomes almost a case of them not wanting to be rude because of the pleading look in my eyes. They think she really, really wants to hold this baby, maybe I should just let her hold it. But but my children are now well now say if they set if they see a baby they're like Mum just leave a baby, leave a baby. Oh read don't touch the baby, just don't approach the baby, don't look at the baby you know and I'm like. But if you were in if you were seated on a plane. Seated on a plane. I gravitate towards the crying baby sound, yeah. Wow. Yeah, I do. You asked me to move closer. I I just hover around. I just I just have a feeling of like maybe they need especially on a long haul. And do they ever go, Are you but you're Never No, no, never, never. Of course they don't. No. And also you're you're on a long haul flight of people from everywhere, you know. Yeah. I th I do try to Or maybe they're secretly going, Oh, I think so. Yeah. Maybe they're inside. I think it's Cheryl from the Royal Family But also as well. Yeah. I do try and like if someone's got a baby that's kicking off, I don't really offer but I do sort of like sort of smile at them. Yeah. You know, or like you're doing well, you know, that kind of thing so do, I do, I do. So brutal. Oh, it is brutal, yeah. So so were you when y with your ones, obviously, were you obsessed with them at the baby age as well and then did you find it hard when they got older, or is it more since they've grown up that babies for you have become even more enedtic. I always love babies and I still love babies. And I I mean you know, I like I li I do like kids in general anyway. So so, you know, um I enjoyed all the fun aspects of being a parent. Yeah. Yeah. I could I just correct that when I said I didn't want I never imagined myself having kids. Oh, it's that. She she might be listening. She might be listening. By the time we came to have kids, that was we were planning on having kids. Yeah. But when you're growing up when I in my twenties I was like, why would I do that? Yeah, it it it seems so like what? Yeah. And really uh like you what you just would thought oh that would never be me kind of thing. Yeah, because I just thought I just I just didn't see the I was just too selfish. Oh just young. Just young. And when you're a child both of the same thing. It's obviously it that comes with maturity, doesn't it? Like engaging with the reality of it. When you were like twenty five and you had a kid and you're part of that kind of generation of comedy actors and stuff, I don't know a huge amount about them, but from I think Their kids uh they've had their kids later than you. Yes, yes. Was it were you living quite a different life to everyone else? Yes. You could say that, yeah. Once the baby came. Absolutely, yes. Yeah. And what about when they said they were tired in the meetings during the day? How did you feel about that when you What my babies, which I brought to the meetings. No, or or oh oh no, or there. I mean no I don't I just you know I don't I think I was so exhausted I didn't even have the mental capacity to even judge at that point. I mean I was just like just trying to kind of you know just do my best. This episode is brought to you by Expedia and Visit Scotland. 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Deep dive into the local food scene, explore striking landscapes and discover deep history around every corner. It's easy to get to, easy to navigate and full of warm people who'll make you feel right at home. Start planning your own Scottish holiday today at expedia.co.uk slash visit scotland Do you um with parenting. Mm-hmm I. can imagine you just being a very brilliant doting mother. Good. I'm trying to picture you. I never wanna, you know, dis disavow you of that of that of that perfect image of me. I'd like I'd like to I'd like to lean into that. You could you could you could you could elaborate on that. Okay, so there's a baby. Have you lovely it's difficult to get to sleep, but you don't mind. It's like a kind of um I love it. Like a advert for a bank about getting your first mortgage when the couple's really happy. You know that advert? Yeah. And you've never needed to tell your kids off or raise your voice ever happy that's famously known about you. This is my next question. Never I'm trying to place what you're like with a kind of moody teenage Moody teenager . Well I guess you, know, like I mean but g but uh that doesn't still apply? Am I not perfect enough? No no I'm fantasy as well. No, I'm just asking not just spool that fantasy under the question is should I be carried? Should I be moving the doting mother idea the whole way through? Please do, please feel free to do that. Please feel free to do that. But did you have any moments where you were acting as the character of a mum that would maybe get annoyed of a a moody teenager? You'd have to go method in that Well I mean I guess you guys are are just about to go into this phase, right? You know, yeah. I mean what what I would say is is you know that there it there is there is a lot to be said for the continuing parenting through teens. Or I would say is that boundaries are, you know, that need to be explained and and laid down. And they get they test them, don't they? They Well yeah, because they're not fully adult yet. And and that's right that they should and that they should be able to. So I thought the the best the best um you know, the best thing I ever read about teens is that when you're laying down the boundaries and the rules that maybe sometimes seem a bit like extreme, what you're doing is you uh and you're going, listen, this is non-negotiable. This is non-negotiable. That that is a rule. That is a thing. We're not gonna discuss it further. And and that and you're being really firm about it and very sure about it. What you're doing is not necessarily preventing them from doing it should they decide to do it against your will. What you're giving them is a really solid cast iron excuse to not do it. Yeah. If there's a little part of them that like, I don't really want to do that, but I just feel very peer pressured and under pressure. So what you're giving them then is like oh my actually my parents would kill me. Like my mum would kill me. Oh I'm getting in so much trouble if I did that. And so yeah, no, it's just not worth me, you know, even bothering. So the the more you can sell that as a reality to them, then the more they can sell that as a reality to people who might be pressuring them to doing something that they don't want to do. Because the fact is is you can't watch them all the time once they start to have freedom and advocate for themselves. But you can give them the strength to say do you know what I just can't, I'm so sorry. 'Cause he's like, he's a bloody You know what she's like, she's bloody terrifying, right? So it's kinda good to be that bit with all the love in the world. It's a balance, right? But I I can I can I can imagine you've been quite sort of it would be quite impactful if you were sort of like not angry but upset and was like firm because you're so playful. Your whole thing, your work is play, y that's your personalities. You like to play and have fun and be sort of silly and approachable and stuff. But if you turn and go, No, I'm happy with that I imagine that a quiet error quiet impact. Well, you know, I mean I guess you need to be able to, you know, be convincing. Yeah Right. You mean what you say. But you know, there's a there's there's there's by no me Do you struggle with it? Not firmly or aggressiv And she was like, Oh hold on. What's that? A little bit. She was like, Oh a bit and it's and it wasn't bad. It doesn't matter, we make people make mistakes and do you know anyway, she went, I need to go to the toilet. She went, Okay, go to the toilet, we'll just chat when you come back. And then she went like me and basically burst into laughter because it wasn't a massively serious thing she had to do, but it felt like we were cosplan as actual adults 'cause it was like it felt so unnatural and I was like, Oh god, I like struck because I knew I had to do it because you can't sort of just laugh everything off, things that need to be Well, there's gonna come a time, Rob, when she's gonna be able to say, You're just cosplaying as actual And you have to be ready for that is all I'm gonna say. Okay, yeah. That's true. Well they can read they can it's gonna come very, very, very soon. It c it is because they they'll say you're only saying that 'cause you want me to do that, they're so smart and quick and you're so and I'm so tired. Yes. It's not a fair fight. No. Absolutely. No. Were you amazing at stories, imaginative play, all those kind of things ago. I am amaz I did love telling stories. Yeah, were you properly selling it? Oh yeah, I I used to love I mean I made a whole story which they you know, there, yeah, just make it all up. Oh. I loved it. Oh yeah, we do we oh yeah, we used to do like shadow puppets and all of it. Yeah, we love I loved it. Yeah, I love I mean that's the best thing, right? Having fun like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, I loved it. It's the silly games, isn't it? Where Yeah, when you get a chance to, it's just the best, yeah. And after a long day filming to come home and perform a bit more? Well it depends waiting around. Oh it is, isn't it? It really is. But it depends, I mean the thing is is uh the reality probably is is that like you know, I mean if it if there's a willing audience, it doesn't matter what time it is Oh another story you said? You know probably more than any other role I might be probably like yeah the b the put the bit the part the parts the the you know the hardcore parts, like the you know the real kind of slog of yeah domesticity like the pile of laundry and the this and the that you know that's m I would I would rot I would uh perform a yeah you know an extended shadow puppet show over that any day, but who wouldn't? I feel like you are so well gonna be so good at it, we're gonna be uh so excited to be like a grandpa. Stop. I knew what you were gonna say. It's just I can feel it coming through you. It's uh a fire burning in you that is pressure guys. No at the window. Pop in matching Anna rat . Oh come on Straight down to Cornwall. Now you do own it here because there's more of us . Oh, but you know, whatever happens, happens. Happens. I'm happy with whatever. Let Nelly tell you a story Anyway, a lala What would you like to be called? Have you got a name that you've thought about? Do you know what I'm really I don't approve of that. I think when a grandparent picks their name, I'm like I think it's a bit more call me you know call me Goomar or whatever and you're like, okay. I think I don't whatever it is. Goomar's at the name for I know. It just what popped out. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. That it just popped out. I have seen it. I have seen I have seen the soprano. Yeah. Um , but you know, no, I'm thinking it's got to be up to and and and the children literally might be able to say Granny. They might not want to call you Ganny. I want to be called Yeah, I agree, yeah. I think you just have to let it happen naturally because they might want to call you Jessica. You know, who knows? Exactly. We do seem to to have got an age in time where there is a real very few people are called granny now. Yeah. Because it's every ha family seems to just have a different word. Nanny or Nan or Well no, or just like like a why like Goomar or not we can't that Goomar can't. Gumar. Goomar. I'll tell you what, that's it now, isn't it? It is Goomar. Manny Goomar . We are Sopranos fans, so we'd all be in on the joke, it'd be fine. Talking of T V crime. Yeah. Oh no, there we go. He wasn't a criminal. No, so that's correct. But right, so I hadn't seen patients, but in preparation for this, because I don't watch TV really. Don't you? Well, because you're too busy parenting. No, I watched it. I work in the evening, all my kids do you know, I don't get to watch much TV. Does Does he? Yeah. But um He's typically watched recording a podcast and promoting a podcast. On the way up I watched an episode. It's good. It's really good three things that I like. Okay. York. Love York. Crime. Love crime. Great. Autism, I'm interested in autism. Yeah. It's got all three. It's all three. I tell you what, if you had to tell me what those three were gonna be. I don't think I would have guessed those three. Also you can't say to the star of a show The Favourite Thing of Play is where it's set. No, no, no, no, no, but I think it's lovely place. It's very, very much featured. I would have gone I love you in it. No, no, no, but that's we take that as red. We take that as red. I've had a lot of people saying, Oh she's very grumpy, isn't she a character, not very nice, is she? I know, but that's all part of it. Oh you're grumpy and that but that's the character. But it's almost like I've the up They're upset. Yeah, they're upset that you'll be not but you're being a bit stern in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it it's you've got it in you. I have. T for people who haven't seen it, give us the uh the elevator pitch. It is a murder show around a young woman who works in the criminal records office called Patience who has a preternatural skill at solving crime because she works in the criminal records offices and she can see links between all the cases. Yeah. So she is absolutely brilliant and kind of starts to work on the murders with the team, the detective team, which is me as DI Frankie Mano , Nathan Welsh as DS Jake Hunter, um and other brilliant actors who are who are in it and basically she kinda joins us and helps us solve the crime. So it's so and it it's also about her life because she is um she is on the spectrum in the show. She is in real life and she is in the show. Yeah. And so it's about her also. I think what other people are really connecting with is watching this lovely young confident woman who's really interested in solving crime and interested in the world also navigating life as a young woman, also, you know, twenty, twenty two, twenty three, I think her character is. Um and so there's been a real connect with actually just enjoying a young woman actually doing something quite wholesome, yeah. Solving murders. Yeah. But also trying to navigate the world. And also showing the benefits of you know her being on the spectrum where sometimes everyone's you know actually showing it in real terms of what that skill set can give you as opposed to the challenges of it which sometimes dominate the the mess Yeah. I mean there is an aspect of that. She's very different from her character. She's they're totally two different people. But yeah, Patience is a really brilliant, interesting young female character. It's a really lovely lead, and the shows are great fun. And they're also genuinely all ages. So you could sit down and watch it with a twelve-year-old who is a little bit into crime. Yeah. Um patients have mice. No. No. I mean there's there's there's sort of you know there's definitely there's murder in it. Yeah. But there's not a lot of gore. Yeah. You know. We're talking we're talking Rob closer to Richard Osman than Scarface. I would say that's true. Yeah. I would say that's true. You know what I mean? Yeah. What one thing I really like about it is that i I'm getting a different kind of response. So I'm quite used to living in a small town and having people ignore me and not, you know, pay me any mind. And now since doing this show, which has been so popular, I mean it's been the first season which I wasn't in. So I can't I can't I can't claim any responsibility for that. The show was a hit in the first season, which I wasn't in. Um and then now I'm in the second season. It's kept its audience and people love it. That's good, yeah. But now I I I'm getting a different I'm I'm experiencing like I was just walking the dog the other day and there was somebody who I always see walking the dog who's kind of like speeding up next to me and it sh and I might nod at her and you can tell when someone will almost frequently give you the I'm not impressed with you face. Yeah . Which which happens frequently. You know, yeah, okay, whatever, maybe on the t I'm not impressed with you. Moving on. And this woman who had often given me that face and I was like, do you know what? That's totally valid, I get that, you know, whatever. Was sort of kind of kind of cut scuttling up with her dog, kind of kind of catch up with me to sort of peer around and I was thinking I think she's coming to say something she wants to engage with me and she was just like patience And like as if to say now you're in something. Yeah. Now I'm not sure. Now you're somebody. Now you're somebody I can smile in a knowing hello kind of way when we're walking our dogs. Didn't you? No no no. I was being her! I was being her . Oh you being her. I was being her. She's really you did. Okay good. Even if I didn't, I wouldn't add it with you in technique, could it? That's great. But you actually thought he was being serious. I thought he was being serious in that moment. I thought he was playing s I I thought he was th throwing a wild card in a little a little numb chuck . A little comedy numb chuck in there going, What are you gonna do with that? So I've been like What am I gonna do? Yeah, yeah. You could make jokes you can make jokes about murder or about how you know . But you can't make jokes about the Olympics, not our beloved Olympics. Yeah exactly. But you're not doing that. You're joking. Yeah, yeah. But that but that's that's really nice. Your whole new audience. Yeah, and and and I and you know, on messages and people with Have your kids watched it? One has, yes. Do you like them to watch it or I have I I feel no like if they want to and they do it's lovely and I love it because all my kids have really are are very interesting and critical in a very intelligent way. So like she was like they'd say stuff like I don't like that Olympics thing. She said, Mum, I love it. I could watch aningother twenty. And then she obviously gave me she qualified it. You're a bit moody. She yeah, she qualified it. I won't go into that, but but getting a thumbs up from her felt fantastic because she's dis she's discerning and she watches a lot of T . But you told her to watch it. Oh absolutely not. No, no, no. No, so she just came to your own. I would never do that. Maybe I should do that more. Because people go, Oh, you and it's like, well, if they want to watch something, they'll they'll watch it. I'm going to sit them down and say, Me, let's watch me. Yeah, let's watch Frankie Monroe solve another case of patience. No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that . Ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run, and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand, marketing tools that get your products out there, integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time. From startups to scale-ups, online, in person, and on the go. Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you. Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Can I ask you a question about the royal family just for my own? Of course you can. I was gonna tell you didn't that as well. No, I I didn't like it. It meant so much to me that show. That show is incblere.di Just people sat down talking. I can't get me up. Do you know what? It was yeah, it was amazing being in that. Well, this is my question about it. Yes. It was a bit of a surprise hit, wasn't it? Yeah. Do you know Mark Mylord directed a series of that? Mark Mylord who went on to r direct succession and is now directing the Harry Potter reboot. Oh facts. Yeah. There's a little facts. There's a little there's a little pub quiz for that. What's the Harry Potter reboot? Yeah they're doing them on TV. No, no, no, they're doing them on TV. I think Nick Frost is . Can you point out guests like that? Sorry, I think I'll do the Tony . You're gonna do the Tony Blair Knuckle part. Anyway, Mark My Lord, that's where we got that's why we talked about that because yeah, he was he directed And it was just a kind of little side project that just got went massive in terms of from what I've read. Well, I think I think Caroline knew it was gonna be a big tale. Oh did she? Yeah, she knew she her and Craig knew. She knew because she was a genius. Yeah. And she did a first what was amazing is that she was so sure about the tone of it and the the style of it when we we did a whole first episode of that. Yeah. In the studio up in Manchester. Yeah. And with an audience or I don't think there was an audience, but it was we had to scrap it. But she was like, It's too sick on me, it's not what I want. Yeah. We're making Ken Loach on tele. That's what we're doing. Comedy Ken Loach on tele . And so we so it that went went away and then we regrouped and then starled it so it was much more naturalistic and realistic and then did the first thing. I mean it was just like people were like, Whoa it was n like nothing else. Was it was it really easy to film? Because no one was It was hard because it it was was hard I mean it would depend on the director. Yeah. Um Mark obviously was you know he some of the directors filmed it so you were repeating a lot of the scenes just so they could track across because that was a big part of how they were shooting it. They would be tracking across everybody's faces as they said their lines and so there was a lot of timing involved. Right. And a lot of you know but i it was hot in the summer it was getting it would get very hot . Um especially, you know, under the lights and in the studio. But y I mean to say it was hard, I I mean, compared to some things it was an absolute dream. Mostly it was an absolute dream. Was it like Sometimes it would get very, very hot in the summer. It was really, really hot when we're sure. And I'd feel very tired because I was so hot, Rob, and I'd think, gosh, this is very difficult. Oh well I had been packing a lot in, yeah. Well of course. I mean but you know Sue Johnson was having to smoke, so that must have been quite tough for her. Oh yeah the overflowing ashtray. Are you pregnant at that point and got a newborn? At one point I think I might have had a new I had a newborn yes. I would have had a newborn probably yes filming that. And then another one because the sea there were some more seasons and seasons. Of course. So then with Yeah, and then then yeah, I'd I'd have filmed again when I'd had another baby. But actually I feel like you was always more in the kitchen than the front room though. I was often in the kitchen, sometimes perched on the sofa. Yeah. But to get you and Sheridan Smith as like we actually went to a kickboxing class once together me and Sheridan because we shared a car. I think we shared car either from the station or all the way back from Manchester. And I was like, I'm going to a kickboxing classs and she' I said, Do you want to come? She went, Yeah, I haven't alright So we just went to a little kickboxing class in Kilburn. That's a little bit of cool yeah. That's cool. And was she good? Amazing, of course. No no, I mean at kickboxing. Yeah, she was good at it. She's amazing. I mean, yeah, of course she was brilliant at kickboxing. Were you good can do you still kickbox? Uh it was an exercise class. So it was like, you know, pretend kick topics . It was the fantasy. It's much like your fantasy of me as a mum. Yeah. When I would do fantasy exercise classes as kickboxing, I would imagine that I was Your face in a mirror en masse of an instructor. Yeah, kind of doing the kickboxing moves but not actually kickboxing, yeah. Yeah. Oh I loved I just someone's got an amazing anecdote at the time they went kickboxing in Kilburn. Oh my word. You were in there with Sheridan Smith. Maybe nobody cared, I think, is probably that's the I think that's the anecdote here. What was Carolina Hearn like? A geni she was a genius, she was brilliant, beautiful, graceful, amazing, so bright, so brilliant, so so brilliant to work with, so specific about the rhythm of the comedy. I mean word for word what was written down kind of thing or improvise. Yeah. Ricky Tomlinson, of course. Yeah. But yeah, w it was word for word and uh yeah, it was just an amazing thing working with somebody that absolutely faultless in yeah in in her vision. Yeah. So making it happen and it was it was brilliant. How did she deal with sort of the producers and the BBC where they've always got an idea of like putting in a studio and trying to make it look like a traditional sitcom? Did you ever see every of those conversations? 'Cause in my experience that's always the m the most difficult. party to that 'cause I was a I was a you know, I was just part of the kind of like acting team. But all uh I mean all I can I'm I mean I think she probably dealt with all of that like she dealt with a lot of everything which is just like absolutely what charm. Just absolute wit and charm. Yeah. Which she was just ig just exuded. So she was she could you know she's amazing. And she and she also knew what she wanted. And so she was of course naturally trusted. Yeah. Because the proof was in the pudding and the shows were I mean it was weird actually, I think the first season, people didn't know how to respond to it at first. They're like, what's happening? And then once people were like, oh God, we see what's happening and it's amazing. I used to walk in sometimes and think, I can't believe I'm actually coming into this front room. Also having seen it. Yeah. And I'm very much thinking uh this is just legend. Yeah. And it it was a whole different thing as well going up north. So w if I'd go to Manchester, it was just a h different thing. I mean it was really loved in the South as well. But like in Manchester it was another level of Yeah. But it was like there Only Fools and Horses really where Delboy still dominates South, like people still say phrases because it's so like people we knew, but obviously that whole family in the front room was sort of the Northwest really.. Yeah Do were you in the Queen of Sheba one? Or had you I was in the Queen of Sheba, I think. Yeah. I think I was in the Queen of Sheba. That I think that might have been like the last sort of um I think that could it might have been the last an episode of the last last season or was it a Christmas special? I just remember it being one of the most incredible. Oh where she's there and she's like, Oh look that that the that's oh I'm just looking over there, that's where her head would have been. It was like a bowl of fruit or a bowl of something when she was in the bed in the room. There's a bit in that where Barbara is um uh cleaning or d uh combing Lit Smith's hair, whatever she's called Norma, I'm crying behind her that is still I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. It's still most moving things I've seen. I haven't got it in me. I'm on antidepressants Come on Josh, squeeze one of the things I can't I can't cry at the moment. Send it to Stephen Bartlett's trailer man and we'll clip it all up. Oh you should feel your feelings, but fair enough. What was it about the hair, did so anyone used to brush your hair as a child? No, not enough. It's the intimacy and the family love. It's the way love is explored and and and demonstrated. Yeah. Which which arguably even since then we've never seen anything as loving as that on Tape TV. Forget about the fact that it's a comedy gold, which it was. In terms of the actual human , you know, the beauty of human connection and family, there was just nothing like it.. It was so good So good. And what did it make you think about? Back to parenting. Back to parenting Back to parenting. Would you say Well they were wonderful parents, weren't they? Well they were. Jim and Barbara. They were they were the par they were everyone's parents. That was so what was beautiful about it. They were the parents we all wanted. Yeah. And and probably needed. Mm. Because they were just there and they were joking and they were funny and you could hang out and they were just feel like a family offset when you're filming something like that. Yeah, a i little bit when you're filming. But you know, I mean every s everyone obviously on that show pretty much had family, so it wasn't like we were all like, let's get together guys. Let's go to the Christmas together. Let's have Christmas together. Oh my God, everyone ran to mine for dinner. But yeah, no, I mean it it was amazing and and that that that sense of family was was very palpable. Have you have your kids watched spaced and raw family and stuff? 'Cause it's still they would have missed obviously. But like for them now, they're the same age as you were when you were in it. Yeah, I think that's but it's again it wouldn't be something I if they must watch and talk to me about it, then great, but it wouldn't I was hed me? Listen, I've got a list here of all the things. I mean you can probably look it up on IMDB, but put you know it would be good if you could now you're of an age, I would like you to to really, really kind of engage with my body of work so we can discuss me 'Cause I think I think I'm quite chilled but I think I'd get to the point I'd go, strange not watch any of it not one bit. Surely a bit. It it's not it doesn't apply to our it it doesn't relate to our life as a family. Really? It's my life as a w as how I feel. I don't want them to think like I think anything is more important than them. That but it is kind of that isn't it is a bit like I I get the f you you know not I'm not gonna name it but you get the feeling with some performers that I know come on name it. No, you can cut it out. Okay, don't say anything. I am gonna say it. Don't you tell me not to say a name, I'm gonna say a name. You tell me what you've got what you're gonna say and I'll just give you a name to someone that's like it. I get the feeling that they within their household they would put the idea that they're a performer and they go on stage as this kind of incredible thing that should be hugely respected within the the household. The first one was who I was thinking of. But um I Jessica? I can't think of anyone. I don't I don't I don't I don't know anyone. No, taking those names out a bit . Um but but do you do you know what I mean? I I don't want that feeling within the house 'cause I don't respect it as much as I any more than you can't be forcing them to watch. Any more than I another job. Do you know what I mean? There's I you get the feeling that some comedians think that's this is a special thing. Well it's interesting isn't it because you know that it there's certainly fortune involved in it and I don't mean fortune financially, I mean there's you are fortunate to be doing it. But in that sense it's special because you're lucky. And I and I feel on that level, you know, y you know, like appreciating the luck and and and the good luck that you've had. Oh totally. No, what I mean by special is they think it's like it's a rung above a normal job. Ah, right, okay. I don't know. Uh no I I get you now, yeah. Yeah. Yep, yep, yeah. Uh I'm a comedian, so it's a bit of you know that sorry I'm doing don't that was me doing a bit there again just clearly. Yeah, oh you were you were you were pretending to be somebody. Okay, you did it very, very well just moments they said it was like an awkward first date. If it was first dates, you'd cut to the maitre D, kind of giving a look. Yeah, go ahead. Can I ask you, Josh, in in in in in as this is our first day, like what would you think of as like what w if you if you were gonna say, Okay, so in terms of jobs that I would be like, I am is it a brain surgeon? No, I don't think there is a brain. When is there what is the job where you go, do you know what? I'm dot dot President of America. No I don't know. I don't think it is I don't think I want my children to think, oh, he does this thing that one thing is better than another. That's absolutely no, no, no. Whereas you're getting that message across daily, are you Yeah yeah I inform them. You go for the Wikipedia line by line. We edit as we go, before you know it, they're at school. What do you think about Wikipedia? I've had to change my Wikipedia. Have you? Yeah, I have. And it even left a message in in the in the comments saying, I really wanna say this is my Wikipedia page . What'd you change? Full stop. Just like some basic stuff. Well just like just like I just cut some nonsense out. Right, yeah, yeah. That wasn't true. It was just like it was just it made no sense. It m it was just like what what is that? You know it wasn't grammar. It was just like chaff. Chaff. Chaff. Like real ch aff. Yeah. But anyway, sorry, that's a little aside. That's a little different. No, you don't, you just log in. And did you then go and check whether it had gone back in? I haven't, it hasn't. been Oh that's it. There was a time when it did, and that's why I left a message. And said, Hey guys. Can you just have some respect? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what do you feel about your photo? I haven't seen it. Oh it's awful. Because they have to use a non owned photo, so it's always a photo taken. And I don't know why it's been updated. I'm very happy with the one it had before. And the thing is that the hand your own one? Do you mind if I look? Oh please don't. I had a conversation with my husband about it and he's like, Oh darling, don't worry, it's absolute and then and then he said, Oh actually I see what you mean What the the photo of you is from the two thousand and eight San Diego comic column. No, is it? Oh in Wikipedia. Okay. I don't mind that one. It's the one that you know You were born in Lewisham. Yeah, I was. Did you grow up in Lewisham? I left Lewisham when I was very young. We left you Lewisham. Where did you go? Uh we wentent uh to differ a few different places but ultimately Brighton. Oh, good decision. But I was born in Lewisham, yeah. Same route as Sean Walsh. He was born in Lewisham went to Brighton. My daughter was born in Lewisham. I was born in Sidcup, but uh my daughter's first born was born in Lewisham. I was actually born at home. Oh in the house. In the house, yeah. Uh but yeah, but d did you grow up in Lewisham? No, so I grew up in Mottenham, which is sort of near Lewisham, but I I I lived in Lewisham from like twenty one to like tw enty seven, twenty eight? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's bit roughly. Until you were twenty seven and twenty eight? Yeah. So you so you you grew up in Mottenham? Is that nearly? Mottenham, Southeast London, zone three or four. And then when I left to get like get a proper job, I moved like into zone two, so Newcross, Lewisham, or around there. And then we lived in Hivergreen and stuff like that. And when you were choosing where you live with your children, what were you thinking like? What were what were you You're gonna love this. Okay, good. I can't wait. So we were in zone two of London in New Cross. Yeah. And then we needed a flat so we went to Hiver Green, which was like ten minutes down the road and we had a baby. But then obviously we we got that before we had the baby. As soon as we had the baby it was like we need more space. We looked around the Lewisham area and actually it was like it's not a great place for a kid to grow up. There's not much stuff for kids. Also as well, um tiny house you can get. So we moved out from zone two to zone five. Right. A five minute drive from Lou's mum's house, my wife. Oh lovely, lucky her. Lucky yeah. Yeah. And then my mum and dad had gone down to Margate, so we're a little bit closer to them but still quite far away. But we moved there so that Lou had some help with the kids . Because I was working and touring. So we were there and then we stayed there for about eight years, then we moved another fifteen minutes down the road. So we're now a twenty minute drive from lose mum and dad's house. And I and we're near an area where we grew up and like went to school and know that area so Yeah. I mean you just you need it. I think one out of three's gonna move back. Yeah, of course they are. Are they all in London? Or you don't have to say but then moved away from the home, haven't they? They have. But then you know, then as they get older they go, Do you know what Brighton's nice. Yeah. Well I I uh we're actually not in Brighton. Oh, you're not in Brighton. But I I grew up there until I was about fifteen. But yeah, where we are is lovely. Oh and and and so then now they're thinking, ah that would make sense. Yeah. Also if they did happen to want her, maybe if it feels right and they find you know, and whatever will happen. Whatever will happen will happen. Maybe. Um Do you know what's gonna happen? Your daughter's gonna go listen to that podcast. I've got a few notes for you. Shut up about making a baby. Well fingers crossed for you. Yes. Fingers crossed for you. Um Patience is on when? It's on um channel four. Uh the first two seasons are already out on um four O D. Four O D. I think that's it. Very good . Very technical. No, they've changed it again. What's it called now? Channel four.com. So on the old channel four internet. Final question? Final question. Final can't believe it's gone so quick then. It's been an absolute joy. Oh I've really enjoyed it. Sorry that we got a bit fanboy at one point. That was a bit like Well, you did also say that the Olympic show is shit. I loved the Olympic show. You could have gone further for me, really. Yeah. And I think you should have cried talking about the hair brushing. Oh but you're not going to show I asked if you were in that episode, which is the worst bit. That's the rudest thing I've done of No, I don't think you're overthinking it. I think you've been a great interviewer. And I'd say actually um don't not to be caught, I think uh a bit of the blame's gotta go on you. Yes. When he was improvising about what the lady was saying to you, he's he's throwing the ball up in the air. And I didn't know I'm losing my edge, that's it. I bet you came up with it. I bet you were improving a lot at drama school as well, were you? I didn't think. Oh Josh, you fucked it. Of course I didn't. Is it just total natural? So it's a Dorothy Stringer. What's Dorothy Stringer? What's going on? It's a school in Brighton. Yeah. How do you know that? I went to Drama Class. I remembered it from the Wikipedia episode of course you did. I've got a weird memory for that. I um I went to a drama class. I was very lucky 'cause I d had lots of you know, there were lots of drama class I had a drama class that was at Hovetown Hall on a Saturday so I'd used to t get my little pound and go down there. And then you just built a whole career from that? Well Yeah, pretty much. From it. From Hopetown Hall to here. That's it. Hope town hall on a Saturday, and here I am. Simple as that, Josh. So when Nick Frost turned up on day one having worked in a Mexican restaurant, you were like, Well this guy's got nothing going on. Oh no, because we all used to muck about and do voices. Oh he had a lot going on. No, I meant it again. I've done it again. No, no, no, like I had not I was w you know, I was working in a veget vegetarian race restaurant. That's different from restaurant. It's different from restaurant. No, I I was how fast you eat the food. Yeah. Uh very oh my god, so quick. I am quick, yeah. Um no, because I I was also not you know hadn't uni, I hadn't been to drama school. I was just just I was just Dorothy I was just just making it up, just making up some funny voices and hoping for the best, Josh. Do you want to ask a final question before a ball gets thrown in the air and someone else stamps on it? Yeah, okay, sorry. We always ask the same thing. It's been a lovely talking to you, it's been a joy. It's been a joy. Let's hope for no more crosswires on this question. I can't wait. Yeah. We always ask the same thing. You always ask the same thing. Okay. Yeah. Which is um what thing that your husband, partner, husband, doesn't matter. Yeah. Uh does as a parent that you go, that is incredible, that is why I'm with them, brilliant, you know, that is just something I couldn't do. And then what thing do they do as a parent that slightly annoys you ? Well, um they are absolutely brilliant at and have always been brilliant at is being like a hundred percent present. Like they're just there and they're very, very, very present when they're present. Like they're just brilliant at that. Yeah. Um and also extremely kind and with always excellent sense of humour at the most important time. Yeah. When it's vital that somebody makes a joke . Nobody can think of anything funny. He's he's there. He's like, silence in a car for around Oh my god. And he's brilliant at that and also the children have definitely inherited that, which is great. So yeah, sense of humour. I mean I could go on. No. Many, many wonderful, wonderful things. I'll keep going. He might be sculpting away, listening to this with his own. He listens to Star Trek in Portuguese. Does he? Ye,ah he does. He's not got a ticket to the old giraffe . Do you know what? Give us one, we'll come. Yeah. I'll be there. Come on. Still plug it out. It's finished. What about the one thing that he does as a parent that's frustrating and if he was listening in between Portuguese Star Trek? Oh my god, what um what does he do that's frustrating? Oh I don't know if it's Spock giving it a bit of abrigada. As a parent, oh my god, I'm literally I I mean I I feel terrible. I just can't think of anything. Like off the top of my own. Um No, they're both. I'd say he's a gifted She's doting. He's a g he was a he's a gifted, gifted parent. Is he? Yeah. Um is he one of those people that's good at everything? A little bit, yeah. He's very good. He he'll he will certainly yeah, he will certainly . I I'm just trying to think what would he do. Imagine if I started crying now, this would be the perfect. Do you know what we say? Go on, squeeze out. Squeeze out little tear . Um Thank you for coming. We'll see you next time. Oh I can't th I've got I can't think of anything. I guess can't think of anything, sorry. It'll come to me in a torrent as soon as I've left. Send a voice like my tears. I'll send you a long I'll send you a long bitter email because it'll it'll suddenly all come flooding back. Because it I I don't want to be too saccharine. Well no, because it'll be a moment when it annoys you later and then in your head it'll because by Lord, as we all know, you know, it it's not easy. If things are going well, don't rock the boat. And I you know, it's it's good to know that it isn't easy. Exactly. Keep doing what you're doing, you're doing it. Stick them in the shed of a periperi bottles. Or the parents. Thanks so much. It's been a pleasure. It's been a joy. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Good luck for the patience. Thank you guys . Jessica Hines. She is a hero of comedy. Yeah. So the first time I saw her was in the Royal Family when she played Cheryl, Nextdoor Neighbour, and she was incredible in that, and then obviously she did spaced. And so she is up top tier. Gold standard. And that's what I told her as we both know. And it all got a bit awkward because You got gushy. Streaming now patience. Watch it now because everything she does is great. Jessica Hines .