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Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe
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Parenting Styles and Teenage Years
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Well done, Poppet I that first perfect. This is perfect comic timing from Mabel. Mabel, I know you've got hiccups. but can you say O? That's a bit of you, this it M. I know you've got hiccups. but can you say fromom now on, we will prioritise a child with hiccups doing it. Yeah. So if you've got a child with hiccups, write with hiccups. And if you write with hiccups to get to the top of the list and there's no hiccups, it' be deleted. Yeah. So try that Good morning, Michael Robin Josh Here's my daughter, Mabel, just turned two, having a go at your names of the intro. Arguably I should' have waited for a time when she didn't have hiccups. incorrect! Hlight best for m I an OG listener. The podcast started at the same time, I was making peace with the idea I'd never be a mother after a very difficult couple of years. So sending this in is something of a full circle moment for me Not only am I a mother after all, but a mother to one of those adorable toddlers that can't pronounce Whiddacam Thank you for making this wild and wonderful journey to parenthood feel normal and achievable. stay sexually relatable, Rebecca three, four hundred and thirty three months I do miss my kids not being able to talk properly Yeah, it was B we? Yeah, my son still has words which he just It's too hot in here. Can I take your jacket off? It's a a voice from the back that says, takeake your jacket off of your purver Am top? Take your jacket off. C I topops off if you want? No, I can't keep doing that quite a lot. And I saw you dresses as a chipp and down on your other podcast. You're right, tired The heat has hit me. We are recording this in the heat wave in London and the aircon's broken and it is about a thousand it feels like some sort of nuclear shelter. Fuck my fucking li. But we're going to put a good shift in. Oh J stomachs, we know, because it's Laura Smith And It's a great interview and we've done it already. You know what we said we didn't know what to do When we're walking along late at night and there's a lady, we don't want them feel intimidated. it's actually a campaign We got sent this by Poppy Murray And it's called bLadDs. co d uk. BLadDs is an awareness and safety campaign which provides practical advice to men for steps they can take to help women feel safer when they're walking alone. Exactly what we're looking for. So everyone has the right to walk alone safely. Here we go B Lads is basically is an acronym. Yeah, I suppose it is yeah. The B is a word or a sort of No I never know. I think an acronym is where it's like BBC. But if it's like NASA becomes a word in itself, I don't think it's an acronym, I think it's a different thing. What is that, Michael? do you know what I mean This check is too up to all Be visible Isn't that the problem though? Well no, because someone's more intimidating if you can't see who they are. So be in the light, D don't be like hidden Okay. Ease attention by making a phone call Yep. Hi, just on the way home make up mayabbe make up a nice normal family friendly phone call. Yep L for the lads bit. Look away down'tstare A active bystander, Do know what that means? Well just be active. Distance yourself. Yeahep. I think that's fair. S suggest walking your friend home I don't know what to actually do though still. Well let me give you an example. Okay, so I'll play that out with you. Okay, play with me. Okay, so you're walking home. Be visible. So it's slightly weird for you because you live in country lanes, right? Yeah. And I'm famous Welloy, you're all right. Fucking hell big shot. No, but I just think like it's weird in itself. Yeah I feel like I feel I you diffuses the situation instantly. I think it might help. Maybe you should stick back at the end, but you famous. It will help. if passast. If passast. because' a certain time youre famous. It's not the blkeoff L Like not a weird famous. Be visible. so basically h me give an example. let me give you an example. You're walking behind someone. Yeah, I'll call someone Too close, too close. Drop back whatever the one was that meant drop back. Distance yourself. Distance yourself. Right. So don't be too close. Got. So you drop back. Why not go more in the light? D't walk on and say the dark bit of light Maybe walk cross the road to the other side away from the exactly exxactly U the light rather than in the dark bit. Exactly.ot ye. Make a phone call to Lou And just be like nal normal friends you say no, no, make a funle. So don't say the normal things I say to Lu. might be a fruit. pretend you've got like a nal relationship. like that. so I'll pretend I've got a normal relationship. Phone up, Lo and go. Hell Lu, what's for dinner? What're's for din?'ve I don't know I' trying to make any feel safe. That's not argu about. What's in the fridge ' not It it's sort of like trad wife vibes, but I'm just trying to act like a sort of a normal friendly, non threatening husband. Because I'm happily married. And look away, don't stare because I think sometimes sort of looking and smiling to go, I'm friendly. weirder. So just don't look away, don't look at them. Very good. Yeah, we've done it. There you go And also be famous. Beause maybe if I'm walking down a country lane and there's a lady there and I'm you know, I'm trying to keep my distance stuff and she's like, You rocket off theai? Can I on a photone? I'm like I can' I'miving my distance I'm keeping my distance And I'm using the tension by making a call. Yeah exactly. That's good be visible. Ease the tension by making a phone call. Look away, don't stare. Active bystander. don't know what that means No Now that's do you think Do you think that they went with BLads first and then work backwards from there? Do you find that weird that kind of thing? if it was just you and someone else Would you acknowledge that you were Rob Becket Would you go look, it's fine. Look guys, it's Rob Beckett here off the TV. You're absolutely fine, but I don't think that would help I'm just gonna do what the campaign says. Yeah. I think that's correct. I think that's. All it makes sense to me. Poppy, if you want to email in again, active bystander, I don't know what that means. I suppose it's like being from. Active bystander, is that if you see it happening, you could intervene Hello Maybe. So that's what we're gonna do. Yep That was useful. It was really useful. Yeah. making a phone call But then I'd panic about what I'd say Or do I have an actual real ph? make phone calls these days? No Yeah but I think you should in this instance make someone feel safe. at ten PM. If my phone roise, you should be like You fucking kid. If I was walking down the street alone at ten PM and you were your voice side chirping in on a phone call like what's that It's good to talk We you like it's good to talk? We've got some Bob Hoskins references coming. Oh that's al weost likely filmed this after we did Exactly, yeah. an interview. Yeah. M might ring my mum about a doctor in a minute. H's Laura Smith Laura, hello. Oh hello. Maroel. I'm very well. How are you guys? Good. Is that Chanel necklace? It's fake Chanel. All I do is wear fake Chanel because I know my roots. It I think people just assume it's real on you. Yeah. She's got chanel. I was like, you know what? Fair play. She's just absolutely living it now. absolutely b.' been a few years since we interviewed her. She's got a fucking Chanel necklace. So where'd you get your fake Chanel from? Well, it was a little boutique in Ireland, just a Kil Kenny Comedy festival But I've got another couple of shenalls that I just found in a bootsell And I've got a fake handbag that I bought a really good one that I bought in Istanbul. I love it and people say really good ones. Like in Dubai you can get fake watches, but they're good ones. Well, what I mean is it's real lever. There's some that look like astic. Same price. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. it's same price, yeah. But when I have that Chanel handbag, it start to get a bit tarnished, you get treated well in Chanel when you're there at Heathrow airport. are youre a serious punter. even though you ain't got the price of a flip flop. that necklace, does that exist as a necklace you can buy or is it is ish I can't believe Chanel a Chanel pearl necklace Can'tly you picked up on this thing that's you picked up on the the centre point of my outfit. Probably you picked up on a deliberate outfit choice, that You in the world's number one p. Is that what it is? The world's number one Cy podcast, aren't we? Wow. That's the re That's the re. you' on it, you're part of it G on withits. Would you ever guess getensible Where you would stop buying fake Chanel Let's start buyan now I Yeah. What point would that be? What point would that be? I'll have to buy a proper house first. I don't think you can justify. No, I think you have to buy a house if we start buy and Chanel. That's it. You can't justy an eight grand handbag or cut a grand necklace unless you actually own bricks and mortar. And is there anything you can never imagine justifying in the way that I don't think I could ever be rich enough to use stuff in a minib bar you still never have it I still just can't do it tomr. You can't psychology psychologically you can afford that kit cat. Of course you can. But not y, but you know it's an inflated price. Oh it's. And it's something in me I'll play in favite prices on other things. I'm just like, o, that's fine. I can afford that petrol and the services. Exactly. Is that more Yeah. Water at an airport Oh W at Airport is m I was coming back the other day, right? through Tenor Roof, right? And I'm there with the producers We need to wal for thelock because it's four and half hours It's an absolute liberty,? Just too much. He. I going the Pret at Tenor Roof Airport right by the gate Grab formalers, Gessa much twenty seven euros.' going to go fifty fifteen euros. Why have you done w water? Why have you done the free waters? We're not going to be the fucking pcasts now.t five euros a bottle of water is mental is okay? Th I actually I thought you said four wat. Sorry, o. I guess four pounds Let's just forget that happened. I don't know. I actually went under. It's a shame, isn't it? I thought you had four waters. Yeah, right? So what do you think that the seven or eight euros ps? How much is twenty now I've gone wrong? Eururos and poundss to say these days. don't do this. fiveive eos of water? That like it. That's re it. But ye that's very over inflated. Mini Barswater an Airport service petrol Seets at cinema, wouldould you do that Yeah, you've got gold in the cinemar category. you know what? Because I had a ten my daughter was ten when I met my now husband. Yeah. and he was a young, single man. then he went to the cinema for the first time As a sort of family unit. Yeah. he still talks about it was not financial recovery. It sort Ty press. Well it was yeah, he was like, o yeah. So, I know we've interview you before but it was on Zoom, can we have a recap? You know a recap? C we do a recap for me? up ten listeners, but for me Yeah Th sort of the whole sort of setup of children husband. like you know, they did it at the start of a drama. Yeah, yeah a quick cut. Just a bit of exposition. Yeah. I was confident I'd interviewed you before, but I wasn't one hundred percent. You've done a lot of podcasts, mate. You've met a lot of parents. And I've met you. So the point is, do you know when like have you interviewed that person?'s like But if it's someone I've never met, I'm more likely to different energy in person than on Zoom. Yeah. It is that youet a new person.. Also I'vet interviewed you before. They stillw recovever. I, I' interviewed you. Thatot. But there's also that feel of you too. I just before I met you, I was like, Ohh yeah, no yeah, I've done seen you stand up. if I saw on the street, I' like, Josh, you're like Yeah peopleople are like that, yeah. Yeah. It's nice, isn't it Lovely. Now I've just got enough profile. this is my profile, it's just narrow of the eyes where I go Oh, I sort of reckommend. Oh yeah I name. It's actuallyill? Yeah No. So fact I a fake name we'amed by Rright Raybands from the markets in Spain, Roy Bins Oh is it still Chanel? I've got George Armani, watch, now, I's got cashm. I used to sell fake Burberry scarves on Manchter Christmas M. I think you've told us this poook sometimes. Cashmink. Cashmink instead of cashmere. Yeah. Cashmink.? Cashmere. I capapital of Belarus Recap on new children life. Parent in hell. I have, my oldest child is twenty three. I had her when I was twenty. She's twenty three now And then I when she was about thirteen, I had the next one. Bonnie Smith. I've got ten year old and an eight year old. So two daughters then a son Yes, two daughters and a son. Yeah. And then you met your now partner when your eldest was ten. About ten, yeah. perfect. Which is funny because now my bonn's ten. so it's a little bit funny going. So fatchs your new one? Yeah. Oh no Every ten years we get a new fner Just turn him out. Yeah, I think right. I think free baby fathers would really go with my fake chanel necklace actually. I think it's a great for new to. What's the twenty three year old up to? She's quite nice. She's alright. W wasn't the question? No no,'s al She's in the middle of a degree. She went She did arr levels during COVID so she didn't when you want to go straight to degree. it's a bit of weird time. a bit of a rest of development if I'm honest I think they're all finding their feet from then. So she's in a bitid of a degree, interior spatial design. I'm basically that mum now. You know when your mum could never say the right brand name or your degree. don't know that. So I always get it wrong. she's doing something. It's not interior design. No, it'sor. It's more architectural. you asked those a youan architect. She's just under a road shes lives near she's architects that parent how involved So so fucking involved. Noorah doesn't even know what it's called. I know you should still be involved. a degree is. You know, I am involved. I wouldn't say you're overly involved in your daughter's life if you don't even know what she's studying. I do but I don't ever get the not. It's interior, spatial design at University Arts London, right?. And then she's got a little nanny and job and then she works at a little local bakery, pillar of the community. She's all right. the girls she's all right. She sounds very sensible. And you think about that every day you like worrying or you? Oh, it's worse. No Wse when they're older. No. I bet your moms and dads worry about you more now I'm going to say that my mum and dad knew Ica of my mum and dad recently. where I finished filming at something a bit earlier than planned. I'm home for a few days. Do want to meet? I'll busy this week or not fair enough no way. Then then the next week I went, I'll come down and see you on Monday after of the kids. then I rung a back overour hour later went Bank holidy Monday I'm not gonna do it. It'll beental D downy Margate. I'll come late in the week if you want, you can come up and see me. We've not seeing each other for about three, four weeks. Come to mine Bank holidy Monday and barbe Nah, we're busy. Anyway, I was supped to go to see him on a Friday, Then my flight back from Filming got in at three AM from Tenory. I went, I' be too tired. I can't do the driving there and back the next day. Come up if you want. Nowah, we're allright So I would' say they her overly worried. I'm overly worried Well they may be letting me crack on. I just think in your twenties you're a bit. S see a lot of you on TV, though Yeah They they know what you're up to. They know what I'm doing. They twenty frees D, I'm boring and safe pair of hands. adult now. twenty frees the anomaly, isn't it? Your kids pull for them though? what I mean, that's the only way you have contact. My m why don't think my mum would bothother seeing me? She likes my kids. Yeah knowid Yeah The kids have to be an absolute guarantee that they're there them to come. No interest when it's just you. Also though if the kids weren't there Itusts me and my dad How much do you want to save? Yeah. I'm desperate for that threeree wight ch You're not desperate for that three way, are you, I sit there and hear about like what the road's been up to. or my doct' doing. My mum like it's word association with my mum like, you know what you know, I don't know if she's always been like this, but you know when you ask you about something and then you say something, it just sparks something in her like Yeah I was in the hospital. Oh yeah, it wass all right, couldouldn't find parking. Oh I couldn't in Iilford You like Yes. now we're just talking about a trip to Iilford. That's what we're talking about Yeah. She she actually you out hospital wasn and you said it there was bad park and then she's her own story about parking. Yeah that wor association. Yeah Is that all old people? it Yeah on this podcast to be sure. Yeah. Yeah yeah ye yeah. That's a podcast. Yeah, but at least you can choose to listen to this Job I mean, it's like you can't just sort of say to your mum ot really feeling the podcast this week phone down, you know what I mean? Your mum seems to be able to say it to you. say one day. My famous son and his beautiful kids. Now we're busy. We're busy m what said the other day What were they busy with? Do they give you specific? You will never guess to a million years I'm gonna tell y you. twentyenty seven years ag. They went down to the local It went else. They went down to the local pub, to the function room to watch their GP play drums in a band. What's their GP? Oh their doctor. Fucking out. What? That's the only way you can get to see your GP.lease stop. No But dad was bending over for a prostate a drumstick Yeah th, the thing is get when you get to that age, you can get the GPs whenever you want. Oh It's like an open door policy overready.. My day was fucking gted to see them. they didn't invite them down He also didn't mean that he just was trying to get him out of the room. Yeah but then they've gone there overseing me. Can you created your drums?. What's his band? Do they give you any more specifics on his band? No, but he also edits video because he's offered to edit my stand upp tour shows they're cheap. I think he does magic P personally, I wouldn't have a m be doctor. No offense to him. but there' too many other things he''. Yeah, what are you? Miss Rabbit a pig. Just have one job Well, I from my doctor, someone that's into medicine, not playing drums. Someone that m' got a book on funny moles ' he's into. by the way, before I tell you your test results, Yeah what's your? I my mum and ask her about this doctor. actually she' into because I feel Iice to catch up with her. I don't wantanna be a bit of a nob, but you know that kind of like You're roicket. You know, peopleople know yeah, you off to tell. Yeah. This idea that is presumably he's a professional doctor, amateur videographer. This idea that's like, if you needs anyone to do his stand upp videoos like I think I think my team have got that. I do think if I wr up my agent and and said don't worry about the editor My my my dad sort of me out a videographer from Mgate. He's currently a Jepid I requested an appointment to take the editing. Someone's going to ring me back in three weeks. You don't want be S sometimes it's like my mate went the other day of mum's go. Oh, we're doing the local little street festival that's in the summeright. We've got a bit of budget And then they went just a little bit if you want to do like forty minutes? yeah we' do forty minutes on a street. In my local area, I thought you' not gonna to be that guy that go There's not enough budget in the w. There's enough budget this for min is so No, even if you'd get paid to do like a big cabaret end of a night set a big awards do, it's twenty to thirty maxs. It's just kids running around with bubbles that I are friends with my kids I quickly when you do to find out what No, work's work,n' it? She's busy. Well she's actually getting the kids in an hour because She's going think that's roll with the. shes that c is she New number, who is And that's she' call back? She'll call back Yeah, that's summed up. She's in a relationship with your mum there. Lovely. What are you looking at your text with her now? Now I'm paranoid that she's never asked me and I only ask her to meet up. You've gotght my head? No, I have cught in your head. You said So do you ask your daughter to meet up? your twenty three year old is she coming to you? No, yeah, she'll come to me. do We do nice things. She's sort of done that sort of transition where she's got a bit of a flat mate and then it's a little bit, you know that first realization in the world. You're sort of full of confidence, thenen you realize, Oh, all of my confidence is based on rolling my eyes at my parents. Now I'm out in the world, maybe they. I do know a thing or two The washing machine and paying bills. you know what I mean? So I'm trying to make sure because I've got the little ones, I've realized she does suffer from that. So I've done little things like I took her from Morocco for a little spa break. I just I try to have one on one time with my kids. I think that's important. even when the younger ones separate as well, like they really come out of the michelle operate as an individual, not a pair. It's nice. We call it divide and conquering my husband with a little one. Sometimes we look at each you going I'll take that.. And then a sudden you go, Oh, I didn't know Yeah, they come to life,'t they? especially with the little one for the day. Yeah they sit in the frontere in the back chatting and then you got ' them in the front? Yeah. they saw it really nice. How many you got again two? two. How old are they again? Eight and five. Okay, that's cute This episode is brought to you by Liddle. Now, we've got a bit of an ongoing looseenck the Stiffneck debate on this podcast, haven't we Rob? Yes. I mean for the newer listeners, the looseenck Stiffneck, I'm more of a looseen neck, quite relaxed, carefree, quite loud in your face, where the stiffneck's a little bit more, you know, a little bit more rigid, buttoned up, a bit more worried you know, a bit more worried, a bit more contained, you know and then that does filter into food, doesn't it, Josh? I worry about ultra processed food, Rob. Yes. That's what I worry about. I'm thinking, if I don't have some blueberries with my breakfast, my body's gonna to pack up before dinner. Do you know what I mean? Lse Nick Legender can just smash three espresos in the morning and love his life I am like, if I have caffeine, I'm going to have a comeown at about eleven AM or after I have a decaf te with my breakfast. And that's simply how it works Rob. That is how our lives differ. That is why the world works, and that is why this podcast works. Yes. That's the good thing about Little though, Rob. In case you didn't know, stiff necks and loose necks and everyone in between can get the stuff you love there. Oh yeah, and what would that be for you then, Josh Maybe some oat milk with no sugar rb, perhaps even some veggie bits from the deeluxe range if I'm feeling fancy, mate. Meanwhile, I'm going straight for the Lur pack, rustic maguettes and a load of fromage fray and fruit for the kids. Everything we need at a great price. 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It went from twenty dates to nearly fifty end up doing Hat the Empire I did less worth it and then Hatne the Empire then indndigo D didid you have any dates outside London? No I didn't. That was because London just an so we just thought, let's just go big with haamers we a fo. Yeah. And it's getting there, man, It it's sold up but you know, wow. You know a big gig. Do you have this for your mates obviously I'm going up and down the country and Ireland, but when they go, A you going to do another dayate because there's only a balcony left, meaning you just didn't buy tickets. You know. Why the bloody balcony now is left on the balcony'sy it.ich' should guess this policy because I think when you are from similar backgrounds to you and me guess this can get slightly out of head Yeah it was no one wants to come see me I hate people I know coming. know, I'm talking about, you're not too, yet. Do know I hate texts from people who are coming Asking for details they could find out on the website. You know what? And it never stops. But it's not even people you know. Katherine Ryan posts all the time where people are studing to her DM's about, What times it start? I've got time to get a curry. You're like, Mate, I'm doing a big show here. Yeah. what tim timees it finished? I'll get back for the babysitter. Is there a break or should I get more drinks? You fuck on the? sometimes famous guys. When I on to it was on a replies, I' normally done at about a quarter to ten And ed replied That ging was running late. I'm on that gu Theyre gonna be livid with that. No, yeah, canceled. How did he get canceled? Well but he was fifty minutes out on a time prediction. I Yeahah, Twitter is the world where Whenere does the tour start? Right, it starts end of September. Lads of dates are sold out loads of dates. Wh are you in? no, no, no, no because London ain't just for a match upp has to be called Barry Fry Bob Oskins. It's good to talk It's like he was in the room. where I pulled that from. forot that existed. It's good to talk All of his stuff he's done, What a brilliant actor and he's boiled down to Super Mario Well he seem if he was? Y he was in the Mario brother Yeah. Josh has a sort of forensic memory of about that. I be able to tell you any of the big films he did L long on Friday. Yeah, Josh willon be able to tell you one film that's been released this year But can tell you about the co cast of Super Mario. I think Super Mario was f the release this year. The ping pong one W're Timothy Challamay. supreme. Well I watched out on a plane about two months ago, so I imagine that was last Yeah. That was superme I need to watch out Anyway. anyyway, back to the tour. Yeah it's called Ball Naggie. Yeah G great name. I had the idea of a different name and then I did a really early work in progress in South End. And this woman on a back row debo, it was hilarious. You know, peoplee are just so funnyu it Oh and you know, I'm just agage when o I was born agay and I was like that's it. That is it. And then she was so funy I start to make my dog and all that being my fashion, o yeah Honestly, my dog's my favorite child and two young women next to her went, M! So yeah, Ball Naggi. it just sort of summs up. I think the first was called Living My Best Life. It was very like celebratory, you know, I'd been through treatment after I was you know breast cancer and all that. and it was very like just eight L Grand, but of course, you can't stay in eight L Grand You get very hippy dippy and trippy and you do all the work and you're like, o I'm still here And still gets al like you get used to it. you get used to being better. Yeah and you forget when you weren't. You'readed. Yeah.aded with your good health. Yeah You're jaded with recovering from cancer., I better start smoking again. I do love that throat. That is how working class people deal with something so horrendous. You've sat in a podcast you you got over the old surviving cancer thing and then moved on where like as a middle class person can sit the gun and then you know s and just break out It' likeight, you know. I know well this is I know keep here. light it does worry me the things that just you can laugh at. L do you know what I mean? L nothing's that deep, you know didid you find it helped Recovering? What laughing? Yeah. Oh yeah, never a go. And never did it or not, you know, is that a fallousy? or did you Yeah no cool like the medicine helped as well. Yeah, help chemo and cano hand. if you had to lose one of them which would you have chosen chemo laugh at I didn't carry right Ohh Godd, I'm gonna get into it now. I' going be sensible for three a half mines. Okay. I not My fault Wh ask. Come on. I thought God, I'll get it ye out I just thought I don't want to carry any heaviness anymore. Do know what I mean? When you get ill, when you help I do think quite holistically in that respect. Like I say, like Rob says chemo helped. but it is about like I just quit teaching to do comedy full time. And there's this weird thing in comedy where, you know, you've run off and joined the circus,n't you? It's very free in. And then all of a sudden you've got agents and PR teams and you're trying to get on M thee and trying to get on this and trying to get that youre go, hang on, this feels like any other career now Yeah. So it made me become very present and actually just be in there now and enjoy things stop wanting for stuff. I don't qu of want for nothing. you know, like as in, I don't want for nothing and don't dont I don't subscribe to all this manifestation stuff. I think it keeps you in the future. I'm very much like now and can just I'm just lighter on myself. Do you know what I mean? I forgive myself easily, I hold myself in a bit more lightness and all that. But that ss I do accept who I am and I'm born Agggie and I do get say. Do you talk about big issues or small issues? love Small issues. That's what I like. That's what I like. smallall issues. I like small small issues. I like small issues. I want to do a big issue and then think I want to big issue small iss. I don't talk about big issues in my day to day life. Why would I do it on stage? And I think that actually and I think there's a lot of comedy reviewers that don't understand this Comedy reviewers like big issues because they can attach them their brains to them, intellectualise them, be academic. What they don't realize is how much can be said with small issues and to still jokes where you've hid the working. It's not like a long equation. bigsues with little issues. I think I' a big issue.sues Trinking people into consuming big issues against their work. Well, for instance, right I'll talk about mental health. Yeah. Big issue. Big issue But I'll do it in a little issue kind of way. Oh here we go. Well I'll talk about like the thing is that everyone's got mentalalth now and I'll contextualise that in intoort of the fact that we're all staring at our phones. Yeah. I'm totally addicted to my phone.'re adddicted to our phones, we're anxious. I'm working on a joke in a minute But just that like They're almost bombarded by like I see my twenty three year old. She's almost like Decion paralysis, there's too much in the world they're exposed to. I'm saying it's not that we didn't have aspirations. Of course we did. We had the Argos catalogue. But the internet my kind of reference. The internet is too much Argos catalogue.. So I didn't see Avocado whoil was twenty seven. That's what I'm saying. Avocado. Avocado just didn't happen. So there you go. You didn't see in Avocado who you was twenty seven That tells me everything that is the you don't have to go into the woes of working class class or you know, ind. I just saw have I just addressed a big issue, have a little issue? Yeah.'ll f you out. that up, Michael. Yeah, he does. Send it somewhere. Give me the small issues. That fans on Michael, is that all right That was that was that wasn't a smallest issue. That was just a small issue for the potential recording, but no bigger issue. I heard that you know about all your fans s of like. Oh. I don't know about my fan. Yeah, but then but even wrers say you't out loud. Yeah. You don't talk about the horrors of the war, you talk about a child's charred shoe. Do you know what I mean? Like I say issue shoes. That's I say But youail shoes sho. I think they're two big issues. Little shoe big issue. A child's charred shoe. That's what I'm saying. That's a big issue. Yeah, it's a big issue. But not a little issue. little. It's not the same as me not seeing an avocado I like little things. You like little things? Stop flirting with, Josh. My favourite thing, right here? Littles I I M I I empy How was your husband Five foot eleven. He looks little, but he's big. How tall these's lines five foot six and three quarters. Wherere bringing it up? Taller than you? You are What you told fatherers s in? Well, that's have a Oh that's not Don't breate me. You do it back to back Don't do it back to back Let do it back to back. We're all friends. There we go. do it back to back here. I don't know where it's best to do it. Right Yes, s Ta There we we got let me have a quick. got there. Well We've got your five at seven, Josh There You five foot six and three quarters just a quarter inch under him. Yeah felt so good. you know I had you down at five foot. I've had you down at five foot six, Josh. Yeah seven. You find seven on five foot six And where lifts. They' look, Oh cut the legs up and it feet. bigig old legs can barely fit them under the table. What was it eight and ten? The kids Yes, yes, yes. eight and ten. So you still call them the Llands, whereas eight and ten feels so old to me and Rob? It does. How old are yours? eight and ten? That's lovely. But you're not in the business end anymore. I think they're nice. They're quite It's nice having a little mate that's not been corrupted by teenagers. It's the sweet spot. and this is why I'm never ever gonna own a house or real Chanel Because my oldest is twenty three. I've done the teenage years already. Yeah I know Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten They're just a joy to do things with They're a joy. The two year old threeree year I mean in that moment and I meanre really enjoying it. And I'm like it's hard apart from, you know some them waking up a bit at the night getting up early in logistics's not really much though. There's not really any downsides. You can have a date night why they've got a play date where it's got drama leaving them so much. They're just at that sweet spot You're just coming out of it. You can let them play in the pool on another day because know Yeah yeah. They're at that height now. they don't even need a car seat. Yeah. twentyty five CM. They're beenty five CM. Yeah, don't need a car seat. Get him in here, let's go back. the role is back It was very very spe because was basically I hadd no car seats in my carars passast drum somewhere I went there we just double checked the gally Yeah Checked it. They got be one, thirty five CM or taller. C Can we just this in Yeah? It was a bit weird, wasn't? it was we CM. You know about CM. CM it makes me look like I use it a lot like I centimeters. I'm too busy to say that. I'm using CM so much. I've got a short on it. I. Okay you miles at thirty miles per hour. No NPH you NPH? Oh, I don't know I don't I didn't even say it A traveveling officer at seventy. Well, exactly, that's how busy you are. That's why your drive is a f. the rule is They don't need a C unlesss a one hundred thirty five CM or twelve. How's that work? right? you got little. Were you one threety five CM when you were tw? It know But I don't think there was any rules in the thoseotels There was no seatbts. Age has got nothing to do with height because the whole point is if you're too small, the seatbelt's not across your chest. across your face. If you're a short adult deemoralising enough without having to bring your own booster seat for legal reasons. it shouldn't be about embarrassment or bullying at the school gates. It should be about is it dangerous or not? But to Bob Hoskins for the second time. God, he' have been he's a short man. one hundred thirty five. onene thirty five Danny DeVito. Danny DVito one hundred thirty five is particular that's not like C off for this scenario, Rob. To be fair, Warick Davis is one hundred and seven ss here. Yeah he'd need one. went twelve Davis. As a benchmark, and then I'm gonna move up. Hoskins is next You can ask a question on this. Yeah. you So your rule is if you were giving a lift to Warwick Davis, you'd ins sistter you used to boost a seat. Well, no, no, I'd say give me a birth certificate. How old are you? If you're over twelve, you're all right. That's the law. one hundred sixty eight CM, Bob. It's all me No what No way? What's five foot seven? No no no five foot six. I fine. Is shortter of me. No, they reckon he's five fiveot four and a half here. reckonly Do you want Dandy Davo or not? Yeah you mad? Where are it now? I don't even w want to talk about the tour or twelveg, I'm sure they'll be fine Oh, one fourty seven, S him. Th are right. Th. Maximum break exactly Yeah because I suppose with a roller coaster, it doesn't say you have to be this tall or twelve. No exactly. So anyway, so anyway weve got to tell us about the t That's what are you talking about? Ohids old sweet spot age.ge. Oh, I just love them. They're endlessly amusing. They've got interest. I mean we're deep in a speish. Dumplings. Dumplings, we need Dpping needs. We're dripping them. Apparently they're really toxic They go to bed easy. And they really talkx., of course they the species. but they love them. Where' did you get yours? Where' you live? You live? Oh anywhere. They're in phone shops. You can't move them. They're everywhere. Theyre little dumpling ones. They're doing big dumpings now size of the saucepan. Oh I might need that, don't I Anyway, I they love it. basically. They love Lego. we do big jurassic Lego builds. Oh nice. Oh, she collects little toy figurines. She's just bonnie's into her feet. They've got so many interests. Alfred starts every sentence of, Can I tell you something? And it's just obscure facts? It's just absolute dream boat. Oh Oh your dad canan I ask you something? Oh it's so sweet Yeah. I sometimes go no, No I don't. And then they go I good anyway. We were looking at a video he was trying because he's my third child He's going, What wass my first word? I was like mate You're lucky I remember your name. C come on. We were looking at old videos and there were so many videos where he was just sort of toddling in the background where Bonny was sort of taking over the whole show. and then he went he goes, I think my first word was what?C he was like, Yeah he's decided he's gotten well, his first words what So yeah, he's fun and games, but Bonnie's definitely on the turn. She I can feel it. she's h eleven, She's eleven Horm coming in and horiz. H't done it before What would you do differently and what have you learned from the teenage years? I would be more of a sort of sounding board sort of sorion sponge. I always joke that I use my husband as a sort of emotional overflow car park because he's so chill. 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Just go, okay, let me just absorb it for a bit, set boundaries, you know, set standards of behavior, but actually just absorb it and not take it all too personally Someone said to me that at a teenage age, they can't really process in the moment because the hormones flood them and you're rather than going because they will talkrt you unacceptably, but rather than pull them up on it immediately, go, okay and then let them go to their room, stam a door., wait for them and A lot of the time they will calm down themselves and then feel like, oh I need to sort of talk about that or apologize or explain it. But you can escalate it by going So the thing me and L have a little bit. I don't know if he scales, but like If they're giving it a bit of like attitude Yeah, right and they say something, I'm a little bit better at just going like it's only because I'm somethingly confused because they're going like like that and I'm like, oh god, where's going. But then Lou will occasionally dor the face back at them. Yeah, nice. You know that little bit of a stank that and then I'm like just watching Tw of them do the same face with each other and I'm sort of like No I don't think the face is helping, But when I say that it doesn' help doest help. Pulling the face at the kid is definitely not what they say to. It's really hard. mean because we're all trying to do it by a book now. and like I say met my husband when my oldest was ten, I say come along at the right time I was a referee. Yeah. And sometimes he can snap like with the kids and when he's at capacity And I feel like there's always just one of us that's not a capacity that can be the reasonable parent. L if you've been with the girls all day and you can be like, right, that's it. Yeah Lluke can be the one that's like I Where' that come from? Do you know what I mean? I don't know where think I come in sometimes where I haven't been with all day so I'm a little bit not You're always you my's not full, like Yeah. So sometimes like Oh I don't know. you know like we just had a week in Ireland and and it was really lovely and then we're driving back you know, when it's like traffic's hitting, have we left enough time to return the high car? you know its get a little bit pe they've had a ra about something and then you just explode and then my husband's looking at me like Whoa, Wh's that come from, you like? You know So what tpps her over the edge on the drive? she'll go for Bonnie can be a bit heavy handy with Al like she can be a bit heavy hand with a little one. It's always She she's just but I think because I'm the youngest In my family, I think I'll get triggered. you know You' sensitive to it has been the small one getting it Gting it. That is most of the time when you blow your fuses, you're getting frustrated by something that happened to me you when as a kid. Things like if he's learned something in school, everyone knows that. Oh yeah, that You know that big brother, big sister and you have just got to let it play out, but my little heart goes out to him You know, B' Chf ch a little karate sequence knows you do it. Yeah because also as well they've done all of it at the same school. Exactly Well we did India day actually to do that then that. Yeah You know you'll just let him, you know, it's his first time. Yeah, this is it. He's got two big big sisters, but I do find my daughter's behavior more triggering than my son. The middle one. Yeah. both my daughters, they're just little me,n't they? I do think that's when it's the same gender, it's a bit more because it's a real mirror of yourself where it's you know, I think I'd find it outer having boys and girls because it's that one degree separation You are just watching little you reflect back at you, but with my boy lose Three loo. Three loose and your husband That's what you get when you buy a house. Three loops By the way, we should apologise because it's almost time for you go. I've got, got go, you' got to go. got've got to go. I'm going up to the R Mail C comedy Festival. I'm amazing. I know that's why I was going gonna come later and then I' realise how long it takes to get there I don't know where anyhere. Wheres' to train? Droit which's right. It's a three fty six st train from Eouston, so I can skip off at about five its okay. Okay. o I tried to read out your tour dates. Yeah, that's all right. You can' Website just went to notot foundound. Wow, or you even cancellled. This does not exist, I'm afraid Well Laura Smith d. com. Yeah Does your parents' GP know anything about websites? It come of shocks yous Ohh no, my m mom's call me back as well. I'll you this will wrap it up and find about the GP You're doing Newcastle, Lincoln, Leeds, Lancaster, Liverpool, Birmingham, Sheffield, Harrogut, Milton Keyes, Cambridge, Southendnd Bristol, Southport, Huddersfield, Canterbury, Brighton, Norwich, Chelmsford. Fuck here now. We're not even out of October Exer Lyim Regis, Barath, Camberly, Maidstone How much light up? Edinburgh, Glasgow, Stockton, Newcastle, Nottingham. Nearly there. G. Northampton, Salford, Dublin, Belfast. there we goll. Hello Mumam. you're right. You're still good to get the girls that are free. She's gone. She thought she'd tune into the shipping I'll ring her in the after on she's gone when we do we'll do the wrap up. Hey, thanks for having me. Thanks with the tour. Oh It wass going to be great. Yeah. And everyone should listen to my podcast as well. Yeah go on. Beuse I'm trying to be a podcast millionaire. It's called Shouldn't laugh but. Shouldn't laugh Bar. It's me and my mate Carmen, we just find really weird things to laugh at A like every other place Little things. littleittle things things but they're big things. Little things but they're big things. But peopleople love you, people can't get enough of you. That's true, Josh. n's to get enough of you. Yeah, get loads of me. It's been love Thank you so much Jos. Thank you so much for coming.ood L look at the show. Cheers. And I look forward to you doing the show in three years and I us wondering whether you've done it before aura Sith that's good,n't So good. I'm gonna try to bring my mum back now to ask her about a doctor. She' it does actually feel like she's avoided me. Do know what I mean? I think Laura's right. Yeah, I don't think she loves you. Okay now Well, that's supposed to be our outro. It's a shame, isn't it It's through a sad end to the podcast, isn't it? It's on my dad's phone Always is in an absolute lottery in my dad's ph. Does he know the GP or is it more your mum? He'll pass the phone to my mum Dad put m on. That's normally how most cell phone calls work. My dad never rings. You' about to fall asleep. Just warm. It's too. I actually feel like I'm slly cooking. I just to ask a fucking question. This embarrassing. my parents don't love me. Do they? They're sat I know wherere they sat in a car with their phones waiting to pick up their children. Why are they answering? And their phoneess connected to the car they're in because I connected it to their car. Maybe they're doing something
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