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Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe

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From S12 EP51: The Ransom Is My EgoJun 30, 2026

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S12 EP51: The Ransom Is My EgoJun 30, 2026 — starts at 0:00

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That is five year old Rory Let's hope he doesn't grow up to be quite rude to other people in the spotify podcast area The good thing about this podcast beef is no one, even with seven degrees of separation, listens to this that knows Royory Stewart dutiesactlyactly. Let's be honest, I'd say there's seven billion people on Earth And the last person to hear about this podcast sub beef and understand it will be Rory Stewart. What about why don't we do thing called justifiable podcast beef? and people message in about people they've met that do podcasts that are Tats so that we've got a reason to because really, Rory Stewart was sort of having loud interview. Well, is he?erry's he's not. he's not Whator I lovely man Right. what's Rory say? I mean, the moment when I'm on Instagram and strictly unvealsed it's eighth dancer and's Rory Stewart, I'm going to shit myself. The last one I saw was the makeup person. Is that it's been anymore since? Kim Kardashian's hairdresser Yeah since that, that's the last one. He's got four million followers, Rob I'm surprised. By the way, Josh, there's a lot time. Look at my hair. We need to sew out your hair. We need to sew out what I'm doing. I look like I'm having a breakdown and I didn't realize it until I sat down. Your skin looks great. I don't know if it's your appointments or if it's the light. It's my appointments, I suppose. You look great, You look younger Thank you You look unbelievable. I feel like this is probably one of the worst I've looked on the podcasts. I look like No, don't think I don't think that's the case. I look like a disgraced children's TV presenter that's on the comeback trail This, by the way, sorry if you're listening to this, is worth seeing how awful roob look somehow mad You look great look You look great. your hair was big, but your hair looks good. a bit It's got a bit blonde from the sun. Your skin's looking great. You look like you've got up, you've hit the gym this morning.ve got you're in a beautiful hotel room or house, it looks like. You look great. The asthma pump on the bed still brings you back to reality. so we know you're a normal guy at heart You know, I don't know how many old you have It's so suggestive if we're bagging, I'm going need to pump. is that okay? We'rep they're pumping H we go. The more we pump, the more I pump. Okay, we're pumping iron and air I a gu would brone Pumping iron and oh no, not iron. No, that's not s. This that joint Every night's a workout, you baby, stuff like that. too, right? Well, that sounds like she's sounds like she's What? She's hard she's B old ye n, yeah I have a really difficult or Anyway, why can I justuse this email for Sorry Oh uh He ded listening after Rory was born in twenty twenty one and caught up on the back catalogue in the depths of newewborn stage. I've listened to Friday's episode I was excited to hear another effie Can we short for Elizabeth or Euphemia't sorry Euphermania, Euphemania? I'm gonna stop me there. It can't be short for Elizabeth It's Lizzy, Liz Libby. L F is ours is just called Ey We like the name. So these are two things I've never watched, Rob. I think double down. if you like the nameFE, don't try and give Elizabeth to sort of distract. She doesnn't's's. this is a compliment Yeah, these from two TV shows that I haven't watched apparently What Ey? Kins Did you watch that? I didn't watch that. And the hunger Games? That's a film. I watched hunger games, ye. We saw Rob back in Kendall in march twenty five and we were hoping to see Josh but never got aroundound to booking tickets.ucks Did I do Kendle? It's a leisure center. It's aort sports wholeleet Maybe next time Rory is really looking forward seeing Josha strictly this year. know he's not. he's five, sureurely. Well thank you though, Rory. Thankk you. Really love listening to the pod. I've even been caught laughing out loud whilst I work in the office. keepe it sexy and relatable Rosie, three hundred and sixty five months Ricky four hundred and fifty four months, Rory and Effy. There we go. Rory and Ey. Describe your look for the people at home. So my look is I'm currently my office is currently get renovated, well, I've not checked, but the builder said it is Som I'm in a makeshift studio. There's some baging going on in there, am I right? Yeah yeah you better able believe it. So I'm in a makeshift studio and I've got this weird thing behind me just because it's easier than tidying up. Yeah everyvery time, what I mean? You slightly look like on the one side, the way you're posed It does slightly look like you've been taken hostage Have I been taken hostage big question that. On a level, yes I've been I've been taken hostage u by my own need for attention my own sort And when did the hostage takers arrive for that one? They arrived probably since about the age of five or six internally and now the ransom is my own ego So will I ever release myself from this? Who knows? Time will. I will tell Josh, I'd argue we're all us podcasters are' all hostages of our own ego and our wants in need. I don't think you're ever going to be reunited with your family. I don't think your family is in a peace. My ego cannot afford the ransom. So that explains that behind me. It's easier to have this behind me. It look a bit shit than tidy up every time before a podcast because well this room's sort of being used as a bit storeroom while stuff from the office. Boring. Is it Luz Pilate's room? Well, it should be, but I've put all my shit on a Pilateates thing. There is also I don't want to throw under the bus here. there is also a a couple of mad TikTok purchases that don't ever get used. Palates gets used. The sort of travelator little walk in thing. You know, not big enough for a treadmill running, but one a walk in pad of TikTok. Right. Why not buy a treadmill Well, the treadmorts are too big and too expensive. this is cheap and small. so you can just walk on it while you're like watching the telly or something or doing your' never, ever gonna be used. J never ever going to be used. Y. And then also a machine that you stand on and just like, wobbles you a bit. I don't know what that is. Right, yeah, yeah. And then the top I'm trying to get the World Cup favor going here because we're well deep into the World Cup I'm not really enjoying England games, but so got I thought you lads would like this. You're looking at your phone now, Josh. What's going on? I was just seeing how much treadmills are thousandousands and also they're massive and you can't move them. This thing fucking out they're expensive. You can move around your house quite easily. I think it's under a qu. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it was how much? I'd to be honest, I've got no idea how much it was, I just guessed Is it called a walking pad Yeah, so you can get them from D Cathlron for ninety quQid. This is a TikTok shop job, so I reck it was cheaper than that. Proably that I'm talking. So what's its top speed? So so just to be clear, Louz's watching TV while just w the spot She's not she's not doing anything. No, in theory. In theory or in theory I guess. You're watching England versus Ghana Wh you walking on the spot? Yeah. Well yeet, or you've got a high desk and you're walking on the spot doing emails or writing a book So people do this in offices. they have a walking pad that they walk on as they're working So they could be walking as it' doing in the Zoom. I could be walking on it now talking to you, which I don't think my current state would add to the chaos of what's going on because you've not even addressed my top yet, which but can I just show you this so we can get this out of the way? This is the most American thing I could find to give me some sort of woup feor that I thought you and Michael would have re. Yeah, it's all for that Try and guess what I'm wearing. att the moment, you can only see my shoulders which is just red white and blue sty wearing an American It's an Ameran football jersey that is. styled on the Stars and Stripes Yeah but I'm getting it's a restaurant Planet Hollywood. Correct. London Oh my Godd, that is so bad. I just tried to name the Nafest thing I could think of and it was correct. I saw it in a charity shop No sh. No shit I've gone red. Give me your case's number, Sort my skin out. So. Um I'm in a hotel Rob Yeah, why are you in a hotel Be the building work is on deadline and I can't tell them to stop for two hours. What does deadline mean? The first phase is finishing at the end of July So that needs to be done so other people can come in No that needs to be done so that we get our house first two thirds of the house done And then they fully done I've got the first fix, then the second fix. No they' done No, no. it's not the fix, the first phase. Pase Okay, so that then so by the end of July you can get your whole two thirds of your house back Yeah. and then they move on to finish the other third. So you'll be in your bed then next week. You be in Be No because our bed is in is in the other third is next We're in our bedroom at the moment. Right. So you're in your bedroom. So then when your bedroom's getting done the you'll find another floor. So we'll be in the spare room So you're gonna be in bed next week? I haven't got so used to sleeping on the floor that always next week, you're going to be in a bed Sleeping No, no, endnd of July. End of July. When is it? What is it now? I'm all over the J the beginning of July. It's the beginning of July. Re really weird headspace. I'm I tell you about my morning. So I've had come to this hotel which Michael's book to me in town. I arrive They've obviously he's booked it for last night. Yeah. And you's not turned up, yeah So they've marked me as a no show straight away I can't show the disappointment on my own face the moment she says that. and then I feel bad. No, no. This no show thing, I've booked a room. When I use it is when I use it. You can't start light driing re it and not get it done. it's my room until eleven A. Winds check Yeah. Exactly, that is true. Yeah. If I want to rent, house I don't have to be in it the whole time. Well you don't yeah also you don't like after twenty minutes of a comedy g go, our March was a no show. You're not allowed in? Yeah We people actually do that they don't they They do but that's bad. Yeah, I think that's bad when they say, what about latecomers? Some people don't let anyone in just come in, disrupt your art. They might disrpt your ar. Yeahah, sorry. yeah, well that is a worry. If I'm asking someone from Kendall what they do for a living, I don't ask a couple why they're late which let's be honest is going to be easy. I do this when they're late. G them a quick sort of like recap of what's happened at the gig so far Oh, that's fun.. Th what you do is you basically just list all the callback punchlines. Really fast. No the people that already heard it find it quite funny that you're sort of bottling up five minutes of chatting to one line. and then the people that come in and all look beused and then you can give them load of shit. So that's quite good thing. You can't do that now, can you? Because everyone's listened and they've gone, Oh, he does that everywh. That's a shame. Yeah, but thenit live. lookook I thought that was just. People know that Michael Jackson's song beat it. they heard it on the radio Anyway, we teased some stuff. What was we talking about before that came? I got to the hotel. I got to the hotel. Yeahes,. So I got to the hotel. it still need to be Michael's window Then I got in She she said it. Then I have to go, well, now I'm using it this morning And then I'm like It sounds like I'm shagging Oh, so youre I need to use this morning so like, you're meeting up with like, No don't worry, yeah, I'm using the room this morning. Th then I'm like for work And then it sounds like And then I'm like, Ohh Are you allowed to use it for work? Do you know what I mean? I'm panicking definitely thinks I'm shying. I' notking about shking yourself. I've not booked for a wank. I mean, there's no one in there. No one's come up. No, but then what would happen, Rob? I don't want to point it out is that you know A lady of the night would arrive separately, wouldn't she? Of the midmorning of the mid morning and Lady of nine AM A lady of mid morning Lady of M morning would arrive separately and she I'd have given her the room number. That's how it would work. Yeah. She was like, all we've got available now is a Um of what they called an accessible room Oh yes. And I said that's fine. And then she went, Well, the bed will be a bit lower. And I'm like, I'm not using the bed It does. It doesn't matter just go.ver high the bed is I said the b will be fucking lower after I've finished with it. I'll tell you that Fe like a photon on the floor once I'm finished with it. Just how I like it Yeah B the way I'm not sleeping on a fot on it, it turns out. Well sle s to me It's just a mattress topper. That's even worse. It's so bleak, is' you're tired of moaning No one. I'm not moaning. No, but you did. You should just yawn for episodes and just tap out. You can't be sleeping on a mattress topper on is it a carpet or wooden floor? carpet s at least it was a bit of soft. cararpet that is so dirt. up. Wh me come back Oh you going to like the as specialists. What do you think you could be face down on a carpet on a mattress top? It's insane you've not got a mattress Josh. Why havet you got a mattress? Well, I'm moving into another Romance. You've got another month. That's fine. You've got another monumth Yeah. I' mattress Toy Eats said out to the track someone told me, I know you've donel itraded. If they tellld me Rob, you're going to be sleeping on a mattress to on top of a dirty carpet that's making asthma bad. I would be ordering a cheap the cheapest mattress you can find immediately just for the next few weeks. Why you could order a more expensive one whatever, but why why not treat yourself? Well, I don't know if there's room for a mattress. I'm quite wedged in the corner There's now way to live. No. Do you ever get in the bed a bit like early or late or if like If your son gets up and Rose have a line, do you ever get in Yeah, yeah, of course. Father'sair got to move into the bed Oh well off wow What a drreat. Any other special things happen for you that day? No It was quite a stressful day actually yeah All in. It was it was the day that um had a panic attack Other now, you'll have any more genuinely I'm feeling quite at the moment. You look qu right as well. It's the best I've seen you in ages. It's because I don't live in London, Robber I don't think it's that. I think it's going on toring and doing last leg. Yeah, well, it's partly that and I don't live in number And of course the London v it's the fact that you're driving around the country four nights a week. Yeah, so I'm in this hotel room. It's quite it's quite very pleasant I've never my breakfast yet Courage Yeah. I've never been prgeed yet. Yeahah, bit of porrge I you say Well we're going to recall for the next two hours and you've just got a cold pot of porridge next to you. What you No episodes have between the there opportunity. Um Do you want to hear something funny startarted giving my son pocket money Yeah. so he's on The same as my daughter because you can' you cannt not do that. She's on five pounds a week, right Which feels excessive at that stage, but what are you going to do? Pay him less, It feels unfair Well, yeah, I mean, it does the thing is it does amp up it amps up quickly. That's twenty pound a month, forty pound a month, you're doing. No, I'm not But then they't off for him. and all of a sudden they' four hundred becausecause also he's so young that what is he spending there? For her, if she want my I tell you what's spending it on, Rob Ready Hello. Youve got a megap phone Hello. How's it going He's bought a megaphone L that that it's awful That's going to make people crush their car. friend, Rob Yeah, thereinsin are alright. So why do you want a megaphone? He just said he wanted one and then there are eleven quid online, so it only took him two and a bit weeks to save up for it. R ot you. That's have quite a fun present My kids are still obsessed with squishies and Nidos. It' still a big thing in London. Neido, the former Egyptian sppur strik. No, no no. Nid' Is it there not got down I don't think I'veertain you spoke it. I't mean it's down to exit yet is it No, if your daughter was obsessed with meo, would you see that as a good thing or a bad thing I think it's good to have role models and I think Mido, you know, far from play witham has done nothing too bad No I mean it' just quite weird, wouldn't it Yeah Medo. Yeah M very niche player. Let me see if there's any controversial in his Wikipedia before I can give you full answer. So Mido. is's a player for IX he put on a little bit of timber in retirement, but who does I't remember that yet. Six foot two, forty three, play for Roma. Yeah, get a Roma shirt. probablyroably not the top norm one.. ed that good career Middlesbor, I went to Wigan but finished at Barnsley. In january twenty six, Meo sparked controversy after claiming on a podcast that magic and mercury and religious figures influenced the Africa Cup of nations, teeam Rituals and squad selection suggested this affected his exclusion from the twenty ten squad. H remarks through criticism for questioning the legitimacy of Egypt's achievements. leading the Supreme Council for Media Regulations to barr him from media appearances pending an investigation. Oh no media in his comments S they' takaking out of context I think that's fine. It's a little bit B How's it be So yeah, in an askswer question, I'd be absolutely fine with my daughter Asolutely loving Meido instead of Neides How would you feel about your son A abbsolutely loveving meegaphone, the Spotify podcast RSS link system. Well it wouldd be good for me because obviously I've gotten in So I could probably show them around the offices. I reckon. Do you reckon I can get it? Yeah because they'll probably if you make different branded like no pad pens Yeah, around the offices Yeah. probablybably get him a meet and greet with Rory Stewart. He'd be stood on a corner doing an interview And what's positive about it is in the future if he continues with this, an interest in new media is excellent for a future career. I'd argue that if my daughter was obsessive Mido, the ex Egyptian Toptenham Roma footballer I apart from having a great hobby, I don't know what's bringing it, you know I'd say megaphoneess your best option. I say say I I'm going to try it out as a feature. What is the weirdest nichious thing a child has become obsessed Well that and also if anyone from Mgaphone or MidO' offices are listening, would love a Mido shhirt. if you've got one and would love a M Megaphone, the podcast hosting platform that Spotify use. C I also add ye since the last episode, and I DH channel have got in touch with me I'm brilliant You remember this, my son being into DHL? Yes he's obsessed with it. DHL have been in touch and They've offered for them to deliver some DHL toys to him in a DHL van that he can then have a look around A, Well, I mean, it would be absolutely mental for them to deliver it not in a DHL van. You should write downod I can't believe I'm saying this about a DHL There's some DHL toys in a DHL van You worry about him being spoiled by getting all of his dreams when he's f I mean, nepotism iss a big thing and you can't, you know, this boy's got to live his life and realize not every day's like this. Exactly Oh you know it Before you know, you've got a Brook and Beckham situation on your hands. Exactly He's got ad door dash advert. And. This episode is brought to you by new personersal Nonbio Ultra stain removal capsules. Josh, how much washing do you think you guys get through? Oh m so much. becauseuse your kids, right? obviously, it's not like they're keeping their clothes clean is their priority. Do you know what I mean? No Having fun is their priority. Yeah. So you could be getting through more than one outfit in the day because you know, they'll go play in the garden, they'll jump on the trampoline, but it'll be muddy to get to the trampoline or whatever. But you've got to just accept that because that's being a kid. Do you know what I mean? You don't want to be going to your kid Oh, this is important. You want them to be enjoying their life, right? Well, I got my daughter that hot chocolate. She had like a white jumper on and was driving along I was ask about chocolate if you want, And I was like, she's definitely going to spill that on a jumper. but I'm like, Do you want to be the dad? that's like, takeake the jumper off, put it aside because you might spill it, drink it. You're like, no just let her learn, let her dribble down a top, we can wash it we get home. Exactly, because that stain, Rob says I'm having a fun time. Yeah grass stains on your trousers, they say I've had a fun time outside. 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I did two days in a row at Bromley Glades because we was was your school closed due to heat? A. so we were all smug last time I was on ear, so hours was still open. An hour after recording, we got the email there Your childrenren can still come to school. However, if you didn't want to send them in, it wouldn't go down as an unauthorized absence Thank going in No, not the first timeue because you can't be the parent that goes, wow, it's a day off from the heat wave. Yeah. And weve just got a big paddling pot Also I' got a padle. I' got a big pool, but not a big paddle in. A basically impulse ber five hundred quid massive twelve foot It was not pound. You know what? pound for pound, better better in better investment than the walking pad one hundred percent. Yeah. justust say hello Hello Lou with if Lou hasn't already sent a voicemail What about this? deffending herself U that she will whence she hears this podcast droping off feel she's at sports dayay and I can't do. She'll she'll have got to this point Why can't you do sports today are you working? I'm doing you now We could have moved it. We couldn't I'm too busy Michael's in America And then I'm going to I've got to work, I'm going to I'm going to America tomorrow for work Oh yeah, I did. Oh ye, you're doing them Gar You are going to do the rest of football. We call happen got pad Rle. it's not padding pool. It's biger than padding pool, but's not swimming pool. It's a massive Like I can stand up to it and it goes over my nipples That's a swimmingo That's a swimmingool, I'd say's a temporary swimming pool. That's an above ground temporary pool Yeah. anyyway, so I built it on a whim when it was really hot in May and then the builders at.' it take to f It took about took took ages. I did it before the hose pipe ban before anyone comes to me, and it how do you empty it We don't just leave war in it. And then so this is why I didn't realize it's got a filter on it. so it's got to be plugged in. M So now you've got a temporary swiming. So now you've got a swimmingool forever that just has B basically until I stab it and all the water goes everywhere and floods the house. But it's basically yeah, so now I've got put chlorine in it So he's biing, this is a swimming pool Yeah, I know but then also it was alright last week, but if you want to use it, you got to buy heater for it then you've got to plug it in. So it's like a space in a swimm pool But I didn't really know what I was doing. So now I've got to put chlorine in it and now lose order the things that clean the bottom of it. I was like We've bought a swimm pool by Stealthy, but you can't leave it in your garden forever. This is a thing with swiming pools, Rob. They are generally permanent. Yeah, I know, but I didn't I thought it was a baddlimball It didn't m it. Yeah. So what are you going to do with it at the end of the summer? Maybe I don't empty it and then fold it up How are you gonna to empty it? It's a swimming pool of chlorinated water. Yeah you siphon it, you put the hose pipe in the s.. And then where are you gonna pour it? In the garden. It comes out slowly. So it's watering the plants. For two hours. you're gonna water the plants. Oh No, no just leave it on the florid t it willll take about two days It's twenty thousand liters It's it not going to ruin your lawn. Yeah, yeah, ye yeah. You're can have no you have no grass with the st. It's a bair. the kids love it, but it's p be betterter. No thata comes of it. Fucking out So we just send to it? What was that sound That was a plate on my table. Is that metal?? No, no, no, it's like fabric, Greay fabric and then they're plastic tubes and then you get a little ladder that goes in with it. That's so big. It looks like that swimming pool went up. I know. I didn't understand how big it was. When Bart breaks his leg in the Simpsons and then they get that swimming pool next door. What is that next door? It looks exact that one Basically, I'm just going Sit chlorine in it, ride it out for the summer, and if it's a night, get rid of it for that. It comes with a ladder. You can spnd fight. youook the kids have already had, I'd say four days of mad fun in that. So per pay per use A a moment. I'm not saying I'm wasting money. No, no, it's an investment, but it's a mad thing to have in your garden. It's so weird. Yeah, yeah looks really rough and ready I wouldd say I'm not a lose not and I'm not a massive fan of the aesthetic at the moment So now It's the kids are loving it and he's been on. It's solar powered Well it isn't, you've got a covever for it, but it like it heats up the first inch of water and the rest of it's like like min Wedes. What are you reading, my Josh I've just found there's this nightmare situation with them. You know, my daughter's broken her arm. Yeah So we've got I've got a holiday booked for July startart of the summer holidays. summer I've been waiting to find out how this plays out Yeah how I just saw that I'd got a text. about it B of a problem, really? Rob, bit of a nightmare We can either go to this swimming pool A holiday that is about swimming. yeah. Yeah withith my daughter with her arm in a cast. Yes, notot ideal tootal waste of money Yeah, yeah, pretty much yeah Could we move it to we've got these five days in August we can move it to It'll be because we've booked the holiday. At the start of the earliest we can do it in July, not the start of July, the earliest we can do it in July to get the cheaper rate. So to move it to mid August, it's an extra two ground on flights. So fuck that Yes, that's insane So then we went back and we said, can we move it to next year They've said no you can't move it next year So what about Oober? What about October half term? but I don't think the weather will be good enough will it? It's a fucking nightmare I don't want to spend all that extra money on a holiday. It's already an expensive holiday. Well basically what they do with changing flights last minute flights last minute is that They know that no one's doing it out of choice Its sort of like a situation like this. So they just's not even the flight that. it's totally understandable. The hotel, the reason we booked it when we did Yeah is Because then we didn't want to go in August because it's too expensive in August because Because it's a kids summer holiday. you you get that cheaper one just before if you take them out. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Oh what would you do in that situation, Rob? No, I wouldn't change it at all. I'd go I'd Try move it to October if they do that or it's not Think of activities you can do that isn't But then you're paying your're slightly, right? if you're not paying the extra money for August. You're like, I'm already paying quite a lot of money Bad holiday I re Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You're like you h yourself. You're like, You should really throw good money after bag to make this a good holiday. What could you So say, for example, you're booking a holiday now and she's got a broken arm Would you just not go on holiday, do you think? orr would you try and find a different holiday? I wouldn't go to a holiday which is all about And she wouldn't be able to go on a theme park ride of a bad ar, would she? either? They wouldn't let her on. No. But it's fine because we can do other holidays. Do you know what I mean? in August. We could do a cheaper holiday in August. Can not and you can't cancel it U dont Rob Rub, rub, rub That's not the news you wanted, is it? No it's so much more It's like of cost by never Because you're adding it on to the holiday. Do you know what I mean? Yeah? Do know what'd say what I'd say, Josh is I'd get one of the castes because they're like thirty quids They can go over the arm and she may not be able to swim, but like it's not she's not Rebecca Adton doing limps She's just gonna be playing with toys and she'll get used to it not even realise it. and then you can go in and out. she can still do sand castles of her left arm or whatever and that to protect her. that Oh, Rob Would it be better Tod twenty five degrees. In October October I I'd pushed October it's if you can for the similar price or Average average of twenty one degrees Mm no What's twenty one degrees like That is You try enjoy five to six hours of bright sunshine daily. Expect roughly five to six days of rainfall throughout the month, fine. How long are you going for with this soon holiday? Oh, the water cools down, but no that's the say, that's the say How long is It was a pack Lers. is Layers. Five nights Five nights. I think just go for it. putut the little arm thing on it. If it was two weeks and it was a big mega holiday somewhere, but like, Oh, Rob, it's so difficult, isn't it? I think get the cast thing for five nights And because if it's it'll be a novelty Get in the pool of it on. she probably find it quite funny and like it. And then by the time it's really annoying. she can't swim swim, you're coming home anyway. Would you give it wouldould you give it a run out in a poool. Over here No, I'd give it a run out over there. So it's all or nothing on day one of the holiday. You're not gonna You don't want to's too much money It's going to cost too much money in August You don't want to go there in October, I think, go there. And also there's like other things you can do with her. You don't like the sun and the water too much either. You could go on little day trips out and about. She doesn't want to go on de We're not a day trip. We're not a day trip family Rob We are a holiday where we don't do stuff. You't I thought you'd be a bit more get bored of that I want to be out and about. Fuck that. Really We go on holiday to not do stuff D don't want to go on a day trip I don't want to go and see a historic fort I don't want to be right up your street. That's my day to day life, Rob should Yeah On holiday, we want to just kicked back with a bucket of woo woo juice and a sex on the beach. If I' luck Yeah, I think go with the arrm cast cover Okay I think she'll find it funny and she's at seven eight, she's like and it doesn't hurt her anymore, does it No, I think it'll be fine. I think it'll be fine. I think we go beginning of July. And even if she has to just sit on the edge with it on and she'sort playing with toys and stuff like that I think and there's other stuff you can do and mess about with Yeah and you know Is it a right or left It's ever right, Bob And that's a dominant hand. I said Domino, actually she's proved to be very good with their left hand in terms of writing and drawing surprisingly which is You know, a good discovery Yeah, amb dexterous There's a positive spin on it. alsoso you could get to you could spend all that extra money, get to August and she could have an earach and not be allowed in the water anyway You know what I mean? There we go No pun intended Rroob It is a special part of today's show. Yeah. Summer shenanigans and that's a good sound for summer shenanigans where we give our best advice for not just surviving, but having an actual blast during the six week holidays. And it's brought to by Monzo who with their free kids account are helping children become more independent with their money. Yep. Drop my tips for the six weeks holiday. Go on, hit me. Pace yourself. Yeah ye It's long. it's hot and it's hard. sometometimes it won't even be hot. Here's a little tip. do not take yourour holiday, if you're doing a holiday away Yeah. Don't cash that in week one. unless you you can save money. You can save money because of your term date. S sometimes kids have like earlier breakups. So if you can fly on that date, but then You're staring down the barri of a five weere. That's the equivalent of Chesney Hawes coming on opening with I am the one and onlyn and then doing the rest of the set. But when I saw Chesney Hawkes, he opened with it and closed with it. exactly. if you can afford two holidays, I one eachkend We like to call that the chesne. Yeah. Start with it and then with it. Or well the other tips just never go camping ever. Yeah. That's not relatedet. It's sort of a personal mantra of mine. What do you do if you need to work and your kids are in the house during the summer holidays? I like to give them a little thing called a device. Yeah which is slightly frowned upon but I wouldn't do it every day for six weeks. But I watched a lot of TV in the summer, Rob. Yes, but I would say you watch too much TV. you've become completely obsessed by it. Your only knowledge base is an eight year period where all you did was watch TV and you've since gone on to use that as reference points for a very good career in the media, but also written a book about it. And I would say that's great because it's work for you, but I would say you are the exception, not the rule Yeah, Okay, fat. Well let me put it this way. There's a halfway house. What I would say What's what's that n NTCV show I say and I'm liable for this ye, and Rose has brought me in on it. Don't over plan the summer. It is a holiday for them. You can't just back to back to back to back stuff because you're worried about them being bored. Yeah. Sometimes kids have to find their own entertainment. Experience buffer. We need buffer. I mean you're the worst for no buffer Here's another tip Rob. Go on, go on, tip me off. If you're looking for summer clubs. Yeah, I started a WhatsApp group with the parents of my daughter's friends and said, What summer cllubs is everyonendoing so that then they're much easier to sell to your child when you go. Your friends already doing so join. Yeah. I would say kids are more interested in what their friends are doing than what the actual content of the club is. Look what the friends are doing and then offer that to your kids. That would be my tip. And the other good thing to do is this is a tip that we've done before. find friends, the kids and if there's four of you, you can alost split a weekup where you go ike I'll take Wednesday off and have all the kids with me on Wednesday and have a day with them. and then the other two or three people take the firsturday, the Tuesday, or the Friday off, and then the same four kids just get moved around from house to house. Perfect. That's a good system. What about days out, Rob? what's your stance? Y stance on days out? I'm a big fan of the old trip to the seaside fish and ships on the coast But then it's difficult at the British seaside because you want it warm, but you don't want it too hot Yeah It' down a thirty degree in Dim Church. What you don't want, Bob, is one of those days that's so hot a picture of the beach you go to end up on the tabloid newspaper with what a sculch are written on. the worst case scenario. what you want is you go, Jo what? I'm not sure about the way then I'm going to take a jumper But that jumpper never gets warm. Yeah. I'm feeling quite confident for the summer holidays. We've put in enough things, but we haven't overpacked it. We'll see how it plays out, Rob. Yes. The holidays are a great chance to teach your kids about money as well, aren't they? A Monzo kids account lets you schedule pocket money, gives the kids their own card a child friendly appview, and gives them fee free spending abroad. 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There's always fun runs or stuff going on at the weekends at this partark I didn't know about Part Run I didn't know about Park Rum. Why would you living under a bloody rock? Yeah, but I didn't know Park R run was a thing. I just there's always different fun runs for kids for adults at the park right So' there loads of people. We get there about half Whating in one minute park run. It's been brilliant So at what times does it normally start No what I am So So I'll get there with my mate and we go for a run. and I've never run with anyone before and I was a bit scared. it's not fun. But he was very kind and slowed down and just went at my pace. Yeah we did I did five K in thirty two minutes So as good as I good. Yeahah yeah. thank you. as you're my resident cover star of rununning Anyway, cool. So We do that and I'm following him along. I didn't have about P Rob. We get there at nine thirty. So there's a few people about, but not li the record Rob you just below medium on a park run Medium, just below medium. o. but I didn't get there at the start time. I got there half nine So most people have finished work So I think mean I was going out for it was like a fun run. And then u I'm running around. There's a lady in at high visious s there She goes a This is Hannight, I didn't know what Park R was. So guys, you did a part run I win Oh nine. Yeah, I did a part. I don't know. Yeahah obviously,' the p when I'm running. Yeah, exactly like. whyy is she asking? This is like, you know, it's like I was walking up to going go A are you breathing So yeah, yeah I don't yeah, yeah, its it. Are you did or not? Yeah I'm in a p part running. Oh yeah, good one It's usually much friendlily than that. know exclusively friendly Absolutely, but I think I imagine she might get a little stick of people that just run and don't want to do a part run, kind of. Right? I'm oblivious of this. and now she's up in my gri People finishing at this point. This is like nine forty five because I'm fifteen, twenty minutes in. The slow She's probably one Yeah so she probably wanted to get going. She's probably looking for the last person. Yeah So she can go, right? Yeah. also go the old She stood the way I run is literally just just a loop, right? The only other way to gopart is Yeah. But the only other way to go is The main road orr you stay in the park Right And she's like this way, I might There's no other way If you got lost on that part run, You should not be allowed out of the house on your own If any Parun didn't need a marshal Right? Pople love marshalling at their role They do that. And then she was like, yeah, goodbye and I was like, No, I wasn't tryingly funny anyway. So I do that in a cafe, Th then this happens this is a saveer and I don't want to look needy, but I feel like I that woman that told me I wentn't around it before. someomeone's stagging me off of me new shoes I hadd a bit of back and forth a Park run lady. Now I'm in a cafe. W a mate. I'm the hotest day of year and I' porridge try to be healthy. Never been so hot in my life. I'd run a five can and started eating porridge Anyway, Tom'mat there and And at the end of my run with him, I sprinted. I went, let's just sprint the last and I was really out breath at the end. I was really happy myself fastest one I've done ,w in the cafe, lady comes up and she goes You need a personal trainer Same woman. differentiff woman Bloody out Now In what world can you ever say that and it be the right thing to say? Yeah Yeah That is one thing you can't say to anyone ever and it's not that. There's no caveat there of what because even if you You know It maybe it' one may if if you were in a gym And someone's technique was bad. Yet, you might go, Do you know what you need a personal training because you're going to do yourself an injury. O or they come in with, oh, and this happened to me before when I was trying to do pull ups He said, Big muscle man went, Oh, you're better off coming down slow and Rather than just like pull yourself up and drop it, come down slow because you work the arms and the way back in and you'll build up from there. you know, And I was, oh, d youate. And then you could go I do a bit of person training. I've got more tips you know Yeah. That would be frustation You need a person to trainer All right Yeahah, that one's for free but come. And I I was like, oh, okay. And then she went, Yeah, I saw you running and being out of breath at the end And' that work kid? sureurely You need you should need a person trainer if you're not pushing yourself. Yeah. if I weren't out of bh then I won't push myself hard enough anyway So I was like, all right. J yeah. Jana, we were watching you There's two ladies there. And then I was like And I said, Well, oK, well next time you're exercise and I'll watch you from afar, thenen I'll come over with feedback Yeah And then I said and then I'll see how long it takes to bring the police it. Yes bit. I've been. I've been big time, right? And I'll just give you a bit backack, right Then she went up I used to be a personal trainer And now this lady, I'd say was older than me And I said Oh I've regret it slightly but came I used to be a personal trainer and I went Well, I can see you've retired Wha Yeah of bit becauseuse that's double that. Yeah. B myself going when you're old too that. Yeah. I've done a inter. And to be fair, she did look older but she didn't look like she let seselff go, which was annoying. But yeah she's really in really good shape actually but let's forget that I talk now I'm just going it for the a. What was that Yeah? Just fuck off she say She was like,h, what I thinks happened there is She thought she wouldn't beenate. she misplred a and then she was doing banter Before she knew it, she was doing but b. Bad banza. Bad banza, didn didt hit the mart and I felt like s who goes up to some and says, you need a person? I' like fuck off. I'm trying my best. I don't know how much time. I've run the fastest I've ever run. I'm feeling really good Don't tell me I need a personal trainer. Let me eat my porridge in the heat You get me sweat into my oats, okay? Yeah I don't go up to people. I don't ear conversations in the pub and go, Oh, you need an anecde trainer, you're boring. Yeah, yeah you do that, don't you? Yeah, sometimes I've se you do that a couple of times. I don't say it, but my eyes tell the story C yeah ye Were you waiting for to set up when they added extra info you don't need yetust give me the bu. Anywayah, so I've got a more parent and stuff to tell you but I thought I wantm to get out of b Do you know what I'll tell you about, Rob? Was I too harsh going another bar just felt like? No, I don't think so. I do want to have a conversation. Do you want to hair out? a link to the next podcast. Did we cover all the stuff that we teased last time? No, I'm going to tell you about going to a running trainer Yes, okay, we'll do that next time Yeah. So be a shout out Yeah, why not Oh no, it's a word I can't say. Hello. I've been listening since the very first episode and L love the podcast. Could you give a small business shout out to my girlfriend, Georgina and her new venture The fivei palete FA UVE what's that? Father F a F. 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