Reflections on Makerfield and Political Reporting

Am I tough enough a strong and stable leadership? Total rubber. Hell yes, I'm tough enough. Shut Frenge. Not another one. It's the politics show cast The four seances I'm gonna to put this out tomorrow. so we're recording this today, but they're hearing this tomorrow. Oh fantastic. Because the thing that they're getting today is about the Palestine action prescribing the upholding. The upholding. It was upheld. Uheld. It was upheld. Uheld. which is Interesting. yeah The like the long and the short of it, well that they can go and they probably presumably they've listened to yesterday's podcast. who knows? they might not have If you haven't, you could go listen to it. But like the stipulation is that like essentially the homeome Secretary and the Home Office have more room. L If they want to do that, then they should be allowed to do that. What he m You know, I tell you what, it was actually really unsetling because I went with Ben feel b And I it was really unsettling watching Everyone be arrested It was quite creepy. we'd be interviewing them and then they'd be picked up and taken away and it was quite Dystopian? I just cycled past the Royal courts this morning on my way to work. Oh then you would have seen me. Well, it was like maybe seven thirty eight o'clock. Oh then would you would not see me now. But I was shocked how many police were there that early because I knew it was happening today but I didn't think it was happening until like ten eleven o'cock They were there early. there were probably a hundred police already there was a bit surprised it. I. The whole saga, my favorite thing about it all was when they called themselves Evette Cooper forb a week D they? Yeah. so now technically, a Vat cooper is prescribed as an alias of Palestine action There there were a lot of police and they busted a lot of them in as well. Yeah. So like when it was all, it was weird we were like talking to them, I was like asking police officers before You know, what, you know, are you planning to arrest them all if It was more like for planning Yeah, you know of like is this going to happen? And they're like, we don't know. We're not sure. And then they got the order when So I wonder yeah It's an interesting one, isn't it Mark Rowley's really Mark Roley's getting himself making himself busy, isn't he He's made a tit of himself do you think? I thought he made a tit of himself when he overruled Sid Khan On the Palentine. On the Palentine stuff. For some reason on Sopie Ridge Yeah. what but why is that allowed I'd I mean I mean, surely you shouldn't be lobying for a commercial venture. like with the you would imagine that as Head of the Met pololice, you're not allowed toate publicly whether you favor or not favor a certain vendor Yeah for a procurement contract, but apparently you can I thought we met Is it because the home offffice wants there even think the home office. Who wants it? D like T I think Louis Mooseley is the chief executive pol here in the UK I think He's got very good PI. he's everywhere He's always everywhere. He's Yeah. He's on the BBC and skky twice a week. Well, I know they've really They've really softened their image. I also was really frustrated because there's a commentator who I like and respect and I was listening to them sort of talk about this moral panic over Palantir Like, o gosh, they just get so exercised about anything And I thought what I think it's perfectly reasonable to be exercised about all of your data being subsumed by company that is not inherently based here. Oh, by the way, you have not referred to me by my correct pronouns. What's your pronoun?'ve correct pronouns now N new pronoun. What are your pronouns Horrible, horrible feminist who hates men Where did that come from? There was just well, you know there's a couple of people who was Sack from GB News. Yeah, so cool. And for some reason they're still talking about that three years later. Yeah And You know what I mean? L let it go. like And They ye, yeah, so But to see that this clip went out and I only saw it because someone tagged me in it. and I was like, thanks for that. Didn't really need to know. Be I don't obviously like see anything that they do. but like tagging me in I right there ye. by someone I follow And u Yeahah, he's just like this horrible horrible woman, horrible horrible feminist who hates men. And I was thinking about it, I was tumbling it last night and I was like It's so mad in this country that you can just say that about someone based on no evidence I believe they're still going three years on. I can't believe they're still going on about it either. Is that the only thing that's ever happened to them? You just take the Lll and move on? I know. yeah, I mean, I don't know. this are. I've never I've never spoken about them. O mentioned it, so I don't if I was like going on about it all the time or Id, you know. Well you you make the list every year, don't you? I do top hundred anti Britons or whatever it is. Yes, a family member I have a lot of like South East London family. Yeah And they were like, it was really disappointing that over Right far down that list you work. I'll say Yeah, I'll try that an next day Pase. Social media. Oh yeah, we go to my social media Interesting isn't it? Is it? You're no longer to be allowed on social media. Yes Alright B.right well Alright Burn. But it was a bit of a shock, don't you think? Because do you think that this was rushed? Because it was expected that he was going to announce that at the beginning of tech week and then he caught loads of flack for not announcing it at the beginning of tech weeek and he's done it the week later. So do you think if they were like, Oh we need to get out, we need to I think there's a couple of angles on this. For those that don't know, government policies aren't always just made by mininisters or the Prime Minister or whomeever. Often they go out to consultation before and anyone can submit to a government consultation. whether you're a think tank, a trade union, a private individual, they ask X amount of questions and you can write up your answers and you can subit to this consultation and your views will be considered A lot of times these are just for window dressing, so they'll only be a month long consultation or a three week consultation or whatever This was a three month consultation, which is on the it's much longer than the digital ID consultation, which was only a month. Isn't it like really high response rate as well? wasasn't it like nine out of ten you wanted to ban? Yeah. So I think they actually did want to hear the publics and You know, the wise minds of wherever their views on this because they left it as a three month consultation period, which is a very thorough consultation. and Generally speaking, the academic consensus is, everyone agrees that it probably should be banned for kids but technically it's reallyally possible. I mean in Australia, for example, seven out of ten kids circumvent the social media ban So at that point, Is there really a point of dying on the hill of legislation using all this political power do it And Have you ever submitted to a consultation?? Not personally, prorofessionally I have. Yeah. I have personally. Oh really. Do you want to hear what it was?. It It was road traffic. L like a low traffic noe neighborhood. So basically where I used to live And they were going to bring in this LTN and they have now brought in that LTN. but I lived on a really Basically my point was and I'm pro LTN. I like LTNs. but my point was you're going to put this LTN there and then firstly as a cyclist, it's going to be really dangerous because you now can't make the turn safely. And there were a lot of lorries that would go through there, a lot of beer deliveries It was like pub district where I lived. And so I was like, you're not going to be able to do the turn safely. Secondly, it's going to back up the traffic all along this road. and They went ahead with their LTN anyway. I think that my contribution was completely overlooked. And then every single morning after that I would go out to the smell of like roaring fumes of diesel and like honking horns for hours and hours and hours and I'd let my kingdom. I was correct. Yeah. Now consultations are They're sort of what someone on the kind of radical right of the Labour Party would call part of the kind of stakeholder state or whatever it' called wasas it stakeholder ' Ben Judah, did he coin the term he uses it a lot in the new statesman where it's like it's captured by stakeholderism. Okay trying to make everyone happy all at once and make everyone feel like their views are heard. And I like point. I like the prospect of a consultation and I like at making people feel like they've . Contributed, yeah I felt vindicated. I said I told you in the consultation this would happen Yeah I think the social media ban, I think it's interesting that it's not covered WhatsApp signal telegram but it's covered snapchat Instagram, Facebook, Twitter I don't want to, you know, get into the panticy. I think probably signal and telegram. if you're going to do, you know snapchat, probably get those guys as well. I don't know many people who are you know on their family groups chet on signignal Yeah, but they probably will be now, aren't they? Also that's really where all of the enclaves that all of the government are frightened of. That's where they aret. But what would happen as well, if like for videos that are sent on telegram or signal, would they be blocked now Well, this is the kind of technical angle to it. No one N one really knows. Right. It's because because you not just like hypothetically have a telegram channel where you just post loads of like Instagram reels and then like kids can go and watch them instead of like spending their time on. Yeah, basically Okay, well then that sounds great. Glad that we glad we went through all of this. I have to say, I'm very disappointed at the media coverage of it. like the BC this morning Anyone who was Antiabanon on their main panel, it was five or six bereaved parents, which you know respect them and their campaign, they definitely need that the voice is heard. But I think the media quite similar to assisted dying haven't Molly Russell's father wasn't pro it, was he? Did you see that on good Molly Britain He wasn't No Molly Russell was she was seventeen, wasn't she Yes. Yeah, awful I think I think the NSPCC have said something interesting about it as well though, didn't they? They said that this doesn't The platform should be safe for children to use rather than children not be allowed on the platforms. And that's pretty much where my position is. I think that a lot of these companies have now got off sccot free. becausecause children are going to circumvent the ban they are going to use, you know I'm not going to advertise on here how you would do it. but it's pretty easy to figure out. But you know, they are going to circumvent it and then they're going to have access to them. And then these platforms don't have to change any of their any of their algorithms or any of their output. And the maddest thing as well is that You know, like I was reading someone from a tabloid this morning basically tweeting u that they oh You know, children should not be exposed to the horrors of the internet every single day. They should not be able to access porn in the way that they are. They should not be able to access violent images as frequently or as easily as they can right now. And I was like, whyy don't really think adults should either I don't really think that you should like have this like Twitter has calm down a little bit now, but there was a period of time where you'd go on there and it would just be penis all the time. was it? Well, it was gay porned for me. so that's not even It speaks maybe more to your. I don't think it actually does I actually just don't think that does speak to where my proclivities are because like I'm going to shock you all If I'm going to look for that, I am not going to look for like four men having sex with each other. Sad. Ces London. is Sharia law is in place. That's what I was looking at all the time. and I was like, oh my Godd, I'd leave my laptop open on the desk and like Sean would come back and be like, what there? And it's not me. Yeah ye One of the big problems for me about the social media ban is I'm going to put out Q hac the announcement today and they put out a fact sheet and kind of the key part of that is at the very end when They're talking about how will ages be verified? What will be the age assurance is what they call it how that be done in the good C will fure that out in the next six months. Because you know, spring twenty seven is when this apparently is going to come into place And we're just going to leave OfcOom to it. It is exactly what they did with the Online Safety Act. They left OffcOom to figure out what the harms were and what the punishments were for the harms committed under the Online Safety Act. And it left a complete mess where nothing was being done. And you had people who you know millions have been spent on the Online Sfety Act and its implementation, but we still didn't have clearly defined harms or how they were going to be enforced I think we're going to get into that situation where it is, april may twenty twenty seventven O don't have the funding and don't have the manpower to come up with a project of this side because age assurance is very complicated and It's just going to be one of those things where all the campaign groups will kick off and then everyone will be going, oh, this is government at it its wor, it's failure, it's not fi, etcetera, et cetera. And're going to cause more hassle. that it's actually worth. She just annoying just I worry that it's one of those policies that Staher felt he had to rush through because there's a potential that his leadership's going to be toppled and he wanted to be known or remembered in the history books for having done something. And I worry that I mean, I know you told I agree, you know the consultation was extensive. I just don't think that it's had enough It really needs some Parliament Okay it needs parliamentary time, but I don't mean House of Commons chamber time because there are a lot of MPs who are going to I'm going to say something quite rude I'm just going to say something quite good A lot of MPs that I talk about social media don't really understand social media.. And they will have a social media person in their team who does all of their posting And you know, if you even say to them like things like keyords Well, if you don't like being called a whore on Twitter, you can actually block that. And they'll be like, can you Yes, you can, and you should know that as a legislator Yeah to what I'm kind of being a little bit rude here and basically saying like the people who aren't creating this legislation perhaps don't quite know their way around it. And I think on the as an extension to that because they don't know a lot about it, they'll trust whoever comes to them first. Yeah. So whatever lobbying organization, whether it is, you know an NGO or a third sector or someone in civil society Generally, that's a positive thing, but then you know, on the other hand, it could be someone in the private sector that does have commercial interests. And I think the issue is they will just trust whoever looks official and we'll come to them first and just adopt that view is an issue. It is an issue. There's a baroness who actually I'm going to be interviewing at Sunday Papers Live on the fifth of July. So If you'd like to come and see us there, you can go and get tickets. who's there Kidon Barion Yeah.es.reat. She's so clued up on it and she's great. So what I'm saying is when there should be parliamentary time. I really would I'd love to have seen it with the science and Tech commommittee and then to see it also in the in the laaws commommittee because they really are good at scrutinizing Emily Darlington, who's an MP in Milton Keynes, she's really clued up and really understands the landscape in a way that most of the MPs don't. And I think the difficulty here as well is that like the way that this question is framed is Do you want to see a ban on social media? And if an MP is filtering and says, Oh, I'm not really sure. they so you want children to take their own lives, do you? Yeah. And it's like, Well it's not, that's not an either it's not an either or question. that there's this huge vacuum in the middle, which is, well, why on earth were they looking at this sort of content? Why is this sort of content existing on the internet? And You know, is it really actually free speech is a lot of the sort of mad bots on exX like to claim it is to be able to post whatever you like on Twitter or actually Is this quite sinister and should it be allowed I don't know Quite similarly ass to dying, which apparently is coming back. J so back You know, let's back. I think it's been This is one of those kind of moral debates that's been adopted by the very worst of each side. That's what's seen as the mainstream ideal of it. I can sit in my, you know high horse and go, this isn't good guys, but it really isn't when we can't have a rational conversation. about it without each side invoking really strong emotional arguments that just ignore the realities of both government and the private sector and the technicalities of it I really don't, you know, I really agree with most of the sort of like the the more emotive arguments, which are like children particularly at the COVID generation should not be spending nine, ten hours on their phones, which they are doing. the knee jerk reaction is to say If you are a person of a certain age, you say take the phones away from them. take the phones away from them. We don't live in that world anymore But they are going to have to exist in a world where they have this technology in their pocket. And if they don't adapt to it, the moment that they leave the country or the moment that they turn eighteen, they're going to be in for a hell of a ride. It's sort of like, now I'm not condoning like underage alcohol sales, whatever at all. but it's sort of like when you go to university and you're your first year there You can really tell who had a glass of wine at dinner versus who had like an outright ban and parents were like quite puritan about it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Why didn't get to Unison, no, No sorry. I get the principle of. Do You understand like the idea that like you know, the people who had a glass of wine at dinner, when they get to university and they can just they have free will, they don't end up in the gutter. Oh my God, one of my friends who was very over parented, very over parented, I would say She rings me up one night from a payphone Now I'm not that old, I'm really not that old. L honestly when I was getting this call, I was like, I did not even know that you could use payphones. Like genuinely, I didn't know And she's like, I'm somewhere in Brighton I was like, What Don't know where I am I c't my phoneess dead Like d d d. And she was hammered. Yeah. So then we were like galavanting around Bright and trying to find her But she was very much one of those people who had been not allowed alcohol until she had gone to university and her parent like under outside of the auspices of her parents' eyes. Yeah. Do you know what I mean aker I am a Guna. It's Mematic show cast And There's also another thing about, you, we're going to bring in votes at sixteen. then you're notowed to have any social media access until you're sixteen So It's sort of one of those about the political education that's already lacking in the country, but now we're going to take basasically the internet away from people and go, o I'm very pro. Yeah, I'm very pro the social publisher argument where the site is responsible for the content that is posted on it. That's where I'm at with it. L In the same way I saidw this on the BBC the other day and it was like They had to turn to the tech correspondent to ask if that was possible, if that was like feasible. I was like, this is entirely feasible. But I was like, you know, the same way that like on like the joe. coa UK website, I couldn't post a photo I couldn't post an AI image. of you naked, right? poor for it for it. But do you know what I mean? I would be held morally not morally, I would be held legally culpable and responsible for that I can't do that, but for some reason I can do it on X. Yeah. What the you know? Yeah. I agree. think especially in the co The issue is in context of the onless safety Act, there are just so many It's the last in an extremely long list of things that we do need to regulate social media platforms over, like age assuranceces at the very bottom of it. you know, we'd start probably with child sexual abuse material or just sexual abuse material at the very top Yeah. and then, you know, there would it' hundreds of things that we need to regulate them over. and age assurance I would say at this point is on thegea because it's already in law. Well I think that's what is' it's probably easier and quicker to just ban sixteen year than it is to bring in legislation, like line by line about what is appropriate content for a child to be viewing. know And I think that this is the problem with all of the tech platforms and all of the tech companies that have infiltrated our lives over the last decade or so, is that they don't have any oners or responsibility. So you look say I'm not going to name names, but say, say one of these like axi apps They don't call themselves a taxi app of course and they do that intentionally. So like the driver who is using that platform. They do not work for that company. Bogus self employment. Yes. It's bogus self employment And so it's like this sort of detached armss length like it's like, how can we take as much profit as we can but subsume zero of the responsibility? And that's the same thing that's happening with social media. Like, Oh, well, we're not a publisher. People can just come on and post what they like and interact with it It's and then we'll take the money off the back of that. It's like this' sort of like And for some reason, successive governments have allowed these companies to do that. While regulation has got tighter in the workplace, we've just had the new emmployment Rs bill come in, once we've you know, but they've allowed these tech companies to loosen their grasp on it. It's absolutely astonishing. Yeah. This is why you can't compete Soorry I should just go on. But this is why like black cabs can't compete with a platform like Uber or Bolts. Yeah. becausecause black cabs like They are self employed, But they're also they have to follow certain legislation. Yeah They're part of TFL on that as well. kind of third secret option, but Wave and Wayo moving in as well. It's gonna to cause h see them driving about. Yeah, I hate him. Oh do you know what? I was so embarrassed the over day Wh where was I'd been out all morning, It was like four o'clock. I hadn't eaten all day and I was eating this like phalaffel wrap thing or whatever on this wayo, like I look up and this wayo' is right in front of me and I was just like, that's so embarrassing that'm probably gonna be on like some Google map now like hoofing, like phalaffel wrap into my mouth. Yeah. I hate them. I'm really anti them. just not just principle. I think we didn't manage the transition of Uber and you know, private hire vehicles into London cities, especially well And I think this iss just going to be another version of that ten years on. It's pretty cool, isn't it as well, that they were like, so like these platforms for a long time said like we do not consider the driver to be an employee. And then when the government, like or when the Supreme Court ruled, like actually you do need to be allocating sick time in holiday time and because they are actually people Yeah. they were Right? Well then we'll better do away with them as well. Let's just take them out takeake them out of the equation. I't like I didn't like wave. You're analogue man, though, aren't you? I am. I am. I'm an electric bicycle, I suppose, which iss very modern The lime. God if That's my big wish to Steak on in this current term, you know, if he does another one. I want him to make Santan air bikes better. because I would rather drive the publicly owned bicycle Sometimes their bikes are awful So I've got to go to the. Unfortunately, the lime bike is the most convenient option. We just need to nationalize Lime. That's all I'm hearing But also we need to get we need to start arresting people who don't park them properly do we? Do you not park them properly Not especially well. What do you put ' them in the middle of the pavement? Sometimes. They don't. in Soho, you know in Soho Square It gets quite busy r that I sometimes just aband it in the middle of the day No Yeah. But what about like if it was a pavement that like someone in a wheelchair needed to get down. you wouldn't slink in the middle of that. Well, know if I saw the person in the wheelchair? No, but I can't, you know, predict. Oh that's you gott to stop that right now. You gott to pack that in. I just park it. I it on the road. I'tark it in the middle L like the side. Oh the side, that's fighting the side' No I didn't stick in the middle, Some people do. I don't I don't Some people d Honestly someone's Westm. A, can I just can go a little quick gripe, a little quick gripe, but. Like if you are listening to this and you are thinking for the first time in your life, you're going to take you haven't been riding a bike, you haven't ridden a bike in a few years, right? But you've decided that today on the commute, you're going to try riding a bike again and get on a line bike. Don't do it. Don't do it Oh my go, some of the people I see on these like I'm like you know what? Tubbe strike I didn't even want to be on a bike because I know that those fools are now on a line bike and they are going to cause me havoc. I go into the office early and leave late. I don't do, you know, between eight and nine or between five and six, I can't do it. Yeah. It was a couple of tubbe shows ago, like I remember coming up to Black Blackfries Bridge off of The Thames Path, it was a horrific It was like people just don't understand how bicycles work And like it's too late cycle lane and they were just on both sides going way like what are you doing? L you can't do that. They're fresh on the bike, aren't they? The one that really piss me off isn't too stke related. It's Westster Bridge Yeah There's no real divide between the pavement and the cycle lane and the road. I don't go in on the cycle lane I go on the road. I the fool always end up in the c. because the tourists are all thereakingiddle like you like you're the dickad because you're they do going down the cycle like brother. You're in the middle of the cyclee. Yeah. But I just feel like you can't beat him so just don't join him. cant beat him him bycleight So I wouldn't adocate that person. Well I wouldn't advocate for that obiously. But I wouldn'tvocate in middle of a cyclee in Westst Bridge. You know, I recceently got knocked off my bike by D Juo Lingo Owl there. by what? Duo Lingo Owl. Duoolingo Ride. Yeah, ye, they were filming content with the Duo Lingo O. Duo Lingo Owl. I love Duo La O D. The Dunep O And he like the owl, whoever was in this like huge Owl, iss actually ridiculous. Whoever was in this huge Owl costume fell into the cycle le. And I was like, o my God. I saw one of those trying to get into Parliament a couple of years ago and it's Obviously the visitors' entrance, those don't know it in Parliament is actually quite cramped and you've got to go through Like a kind of what's that door called The revolving door revolving door. He was in the outfit and it just wasn't. It's quite fun when we try and take equipment in that way. Or, do you know what the nightmare? M and Ben got in trouble when we went to look in Jordan. Yeah. Ben Ben got you got caught up, didn't you p Pal Yeah, see, that's the trick, isn't it? You need someone there to meet you fresh off that. See see, I can tell the worst thing If I'm meeting some for a shoe, I try and get out there. Ben, I haven't always done this with you. I've probably never done it with you, but I have I try to go out first to take the equipment Yeah rather than have the visitor take the equipment in Yeah because the visitor's going to get questions of why are you bringing that in? Whereas the passholder is okay. Yeah we got. I had to show a security comrade Whats up chat with Sean from Melb Children's off Fantastic offic, isn't it? Oh, God it was incredible I can't believe it. Yeah. And he's on the Stan in. He's on the reform corridor as well, which is even funnier. But you know, I don't think they mind him. He's just a trade union boy, isn't? Yeah. I just think it's funny. Neil from Pool. Neil from Ple. Majority of nine, I believe. It's actually. It's something stupid, like seven or nine or really It is tiny. Like Sarah Potin. Sarah Potin. Yeah. God, Who remembers Sarah Potin? Who remembers Um I Yeah, the social media bum. I really am convinced that he's just bringing this in because he wants to be remembered by something. I think that's the only reason he's doing it and rushing it in the way that he is. You sat on his hands for a couple of years. now he's like, o Yeah. I think you think of Prime M ministers they generally do have you know one or two or three things that You live past their premiership as. Oh, on, let's name them then. What do you think Margaret Thatcher will be remembered for? Dangerousization, probably. Oh really D. I think it would be for a friendship with Gorbachev I thought wed gonna sa for a friendship with someone else there for a moment. No. We can't say his name. What do you think John Mayor will be remembered for? Joh John Mayorayay John Mayjor. I you don't know me job mjor. Cricket, probablyro know, but eggs. Eggs What about the salonella eggs? Salmonella eggs Yeah, probably Barr Johns Brexit, I suppose.rex. David Camer, Austerity is May Brexit or I think the G home vans. I know it was before her time as Prime Minister. It was when she was home office, but She was so pro gay toa May, wasn't she? Yeah, she really was. Iid think it's because her last name is Maye Why would that have any c because May gay ' rhyme. Didn't that's what it was? I don't know if that was what it was to be honest. Because gay marriage could be May, couldn't it Garrt, I suppose would more. Yeah, I suppose so Rather than. I suppose of you invert it me, ye, yeah, ye, this is good. Anyway, have' you heard that reform is the gay partarty now, it used to be the Tory. It was so a council that was telling me on social media was now the gayest party in the UK u which is true They do have a few kind of quite high profile gay comrades, not actually in Balliament, but in there tataring guard of Council this. But it's interesting because it reminds me of MAGa. There were a lot of gays for MAGa What where in the first L the sort of real estate Florida. the first incentation of if Trump won, there was w, they moved very much more hetro You remember the New York magazine cover school kid wasn't it? Where was all these kind of hot petros and the youngs of New York are you know, fucking and they love Trump. I think ye the Trump won was definitely very good. And then the thing is is that they were like that's just remind me of something, I'm taking gear change, gear change. Gear change. Oh my Godd, who thought that that Hannah Spencer shirt was a gucy shirt? No I'm not being funny. When you look at it, you can see it's not a The pattern with all due respect and like okay. It was nice. It' a nice shirt, but it is quite clearly not a gucy shirt. Like the pattern doesn't line up the weight, the little cheating. To tell something is expensive, the pattern lines up, right? That's why it is more expensive because a lot more has gone into the production of it Looking at that, I'm like, that's just a vintage shirt It's just a about the Northern core. And also, if she had bought off vintage Gucci shirt, Like maybe from like Bestir or like vintage. Yeah. You know I crack out a few bits of Bill andiaga every now and again on here and I never get done for it Do you really Yeah, I'm a big Balenz yaga buyer invinted, y Why? I don't like I don't. The only thing I really recognize is Alentyi Arto those awful fucking shoes. They do some lovely knitwear, but you can buy it really cheap on vinted. Really? Yeah, there you go And it's always better to buy on vinted because you're buying a premium I'm not this is not spawn. But you're buying a premium product.'s like you're buying a product that's not going like go to trash in the wash In that same vein, I've just discovered too good to go Right? Yeah whichich is that's right up. I bet you're getting Greg's too good to go, aren't you? Yeah, I got a six pound box of donoughnuts from a doughnut shop. Is that where you got them from the other day? Yeah.es, yes, yes. I saw that ye. Yeah yeah. I often think about I was into too goodood for go when I lived in Shordditch because you're by all of the all of those areas shut like all of those shops and that they shut at like seven PM when all of the city go home. Yeah. So on my way back I could go and get like, you know, like the posh farm shops. Yeah that you could go you could get her a lot for Six or seven quid. Yeah. You could honestly, you could do like a food shop with what they'd give you. It's craz. I got very into it recently Um s great prospect, right is't it? I know man, is capitalism stuff, maybe. Maybe maybe I'm wrong. I It's pretty good. I yeah. I never minded going in there either be like I do feel a little bit of shame Iight is' For some reason, I've always been in when I've done three of these now And for some reason the shop's always open, so it's like, paying custer buying what they want and then you go Too good today do I'm about to get all of that. I call me ye and Yeah, I think that if had if I was more minded to do it properly, but the thing is is that it's very difficult to get into My vision as well was I wanted to be able to go do two good to go and then I wanted to go and give it to the Shwitich Food Bank It's really difficult to get times like the times to drop off food at the food bank I just applied for where I live now. I applied to be delivery driver. for the local food bank. I needed four references.. Four. I was like, sorry. Wh four? And then it was like I had to write like five hundred words of why I thought I was right for the role And I was like, I do think we're going a bit far here. volue. I might try a different one Yeah It was to do the job of do you know when you go pick the food up from the supermarket and drop it off? Yeah. And then they were like, Wh makes you qualify for this role? I was like, Well, you used to do this for money like as a job. I can drive and I haves. I could drive a van. so like I thought I could do this. Yeah. And then it was like Then I was like, I finished that bit bit. and then it was like going on for three more paragraphs three more big long questions. and I was just I'll piss off. Yeah, man. That's mad Yeah. There Got got be DBS checked? What enhanceced or just DBS I think it might have been an enhanced one. although I do think I have that Do you have to redo them that? You have to do it for each employer eachoy, I've got it then. we'd have to do it again to them. So so a DBS check isn't a DBS certificate. It's not like it runs out in five years. It's that company doing the search or that organization doing the search and then holding it against their stunt. like you technically can't fail a DBS check You can fail organizationss DBS standards are? Really? If that makes sense. like yeah, that's basically As's myad Yeah yeah, I'm unsfe g. up. Yeah anymore for any more Make feelield be mad. Oh yeah, makeake feel. Iite we should do that again. We should do another one we talk about Make and Field. We should probably do that on Wednesday Yeah You're around on Wednesday? Yeah. Yeah. You should probably come and do that then shouldn't we? I mean Friday, I suppose we would be a day to day makeakp. Probably Friday would be a day to day makeupld. Post. We could do both We both went to Makfield last week, didn't we? Yeah, we did. I had a much better time than they did. It was really, really wet. They stood in so wet and had to talk like serious business to an MP a former MP for How long I went on a pp cel and went day drinking and it was quite sunny. So I'm gonna taste somethingy. I When you're doing those sort of shoots, you're on a really tight time like time frrame. First, Seaan and I, we drove. We drove don't know why we drive was not my choice to drive rain was It was shocking It was going to be like five hundred quid for us to go up there. Yeah. And I was like, I cannot. It's not my money, but I was like, I can't in good conscience like use the politics J own money to do that. I thought it was outrageous So we drive And u you're on a really tight time frame. So you're like, you go and interview someone, you kind of leave like half an hour for each one. because you want to do pleasantries as well. You want to be like, you know, thank you so much for your time, and dah. But there was like one particular person who been talking to us for like goodood fifteen minutes after the interview had finished. And I don't normally mind that.ike I like a chat and also it gives you a bit more colour. and you know I'm thankful for their time, so I'd like to listen to them and what they have to say The rain was so bad. Like and I mean I was like dripping. like I actually like I was wearing these jeans and I'm not joking. they were completely soaking. I swe I'm sorry, I' just have to go And I felt really bad about it at class. But I was just like, canan we read the room? Yeah. L I'm actually dripping at you Yeah I didn't have that. I feel al right cal for saying that now. R I had a nap with the guy. They took this out. They've edited this out the piece so I can tell you guys I had a nap with a guy because I was interviewing day drinkers and chat to him, chat away in was going So talk me through, you, what would you normally do at this kind of time? routine? Yeah. And he go, Well, I've had two pointints and normally I'd have nap now, but I'm talking to you And I go, o, you can have nap, I can go talk to someone. ' no no I'm talking to you I was like, oh to nap with you if you want them to k pook a afteron and I was like, Yeahah, okay. And we just How long did you go out for? T twentyentyd minutes. I belie leave that in the piece that's a fantastic bit of color. I thought so. My let just disagreed. Cowards. I know I know Cowards. By the word count, I was told was eight hundred and I submitted four thousandteen hundred. so it's There was a lot to say We went into this I'll told you about this a minute ago. We went into this triangle snooker joint that's like all over Twitter as like the Andy's lost it because This Snooper pub has reform outside of it. Yeah No one in there knew anything about politics and they were like, are there even reform science outside? And I thought they might be pulling my leg But like I did stand outside for a one. I kept asking people, I got nothing. Yeah. no. I think Makeerfield is a really weird place because Journalists generally speaking haven't made it past Ashton High Street L a lot of coverage I'veen has just been on this one road in the town in the very sou. Oh I did. I went you'll see this as the piece. I went to Stones and I went to Ins Well interestn't technically in the constituency any. Wellly. Actually, the point that I was making with that I spoke to people who were' at their parader shops. Right. So I asked them first. Are you voting in the by election? Dan I spoke to them? Maybe If you have to watch the piece to find more out about that. Yeah, you would All right, read Andy, watch me, see you later