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From The Dark Side of Bible Prophecy | Gary Stearman and L.A. Marzulli — Jun 18, 2026
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Hi, Garary's Chairman. I'd like to spend a few minutes with you talking about what we're calling the dark sideide of Bible prophecy in the church The message is of hope, it's of resurrection, it is of redemption. We have the most positive message on planet Earth But there is a dark side to the message of the Bible And we cannot ignore it And on that note, I want to introduce to you an old friend and by the way, someone I'm sure you've seen from time to time in various places. He's been our guest. hisis name is LA. Marzuli. Hi, LA. Gary, great to be here. You know The Bible message, the message of redemption is the most positive message on Earth. It's full of toomorrows, it's full of the love of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's just a phenomenal message But we find ourselves now in a time and a place where whether we like it or not, there are a lot of dark things looming up just as prophecy said they would And that's what I want to talk with you about today, the legitimacy of the dark side of Bible prophecy. You've had a lot of experience, you've taken a lot of criticism. and let's start out I guess what is a dark note fact that you've been criticized for talking about subjects that are considered subRosa not to be discussed. sureure U I'll just give you an example We probably get, in fact, I had one this morning that came to my inbox We have people that because of what I do because of the lectures and the books and everything else, they feel safe to email me. and so they'll email And what was interesting is this man's talking about Awakening. He's a truck driver, awakening in his truck and feeling this very dark, ominous presence around him. and not being able to move. And there were other experiences that he went through. And so he's coming to me looking for what's going on. What do I do with this? And of course, I'll write back to him, which I haven't had time to do yet, talkalk about the armor of God, which we read about in Ephesans six. Let him know that first of all, he's not alone in this that we get countless and I mean countless testimonies from people, we get emails on a daily some, you know, well weekly basis, more than often Daily basis from people all over America and sometimes different countries asking and sharing their stories about be either being abducted or partially abducted or you know, getting ready or floating over the bed, this type of stuff. And that's crazy, crazy stuff When when I'm at conferences, I ask people in the audience How many of you had had an encounter, seen lightights in the sky Sleep paralysis, shadow people Just give me give me a raise of hands. And usually it's between twenty and thirty percent of the people. And I've had pastors, you know, in the front row turn around and just be taken aback by the number of hands And some of them are in their congregation. they're just going to go event, you know, this person had and they'll go to them after Well, what happened to you? And person is reticent to say anything Without those kind of numbers and think about the people that aren't raising their hands twenty to thirty percent of the people just at a conference. Right. So we need to address this because something is going on And as Christians, who believe in the biblical prophetic narrative, we've got the answers. We can put on the armor of God. We can talk about the blood of Jesus. can you know, get prayed up and stay prayed up and walk in a circumspect way Well, we read about the prrince of the power of the air. Satan, sure. The old dragon, the serpent, the cause of all the difficulty, the one who fell a very long time ago from his position of authority. basasically I look at Satan. as the owner of this real estate. He looked at himself that way when he tempted Christ. He said, you know, can I can give you these things if you'll just bow down to me Jesus didn't look at him and say, you're silly. You're ridiculous Jesus didn't say I' in this place He didn't pull rank on Satan But what he did was quote scripture atan. It is written. And it is written and in doing that, he really acknowledged the fact that Satan Uh, has some kind of priority over this real estate called planlet Earth. A legal right, a legal right. And we call him the Prince of the Power of the air. he directs I think legions of followers, they're called principalities or archons They're called Eusa delegated authorities In my opinion, they're the things that go bump in the night. We tend to look at the bright side, take a polllyanna view of the world. and it's a wonderful place and salvation is great. And we go to church on Sunday and and We play golf. notothing against golf, by the way But the thing is we try to ignore Uh 's what the Bible is clearly saying that in the last days, as Paul put it perallilous times shall come and I guess you and I both have been called to deal with these subjects. I know I have I found myself backing into these subjects thirty years ago when I was writing. on what I thought was, you know, straightforward biblical prophecy, I would find things in the Bible that said, oh, oh, Something dark is coming and it is prophesied for the latter days And I began to see that something coming as you did And I think the Lord has called us to shine a bright light of truth on it. having kicked off our conversation in this way What do you think we really need to talk about today, so the Christians are not fooled or tricked Well, you know, yes sure Jesus warns us that even the elect would be deceived If that were possible. yeah, if that were possible and I thinkk I thank him and that latter part of the phrase is included I mean, that is a very stern severe warning Even the elect would be dece, but that were possible. and that leads me to think Whatever this is is going to be so overwhelming. even those who are rooted and grounded in biblical truths. will, you know, kind of take a step back and be jolted And that begs the question, what would that thing be? Is anything manifesting in today's world, which fits that description. in my opinion, it is And it's being promulgated by the newew Aers UFO cults, Ancient Alien series every Friday night rununning with it And also the springboard of this is Daminism, which You know, the whole idea of panpermia or that we were seated here from a galaxy far far away and Richard Dawkins You know know that Premier evolution of the twentieth and twenty first century, that's his position That's what he defaults to when asked, how did all this begin? That's his default paradigm We were seated here And yet he would laugh if you suggested to him that the people who ceded this are coming here to check on their work, whichich is a rather common myth that we were created by the aliens and they're coming back now toward the end of time to bring everything to a close. So There are a number of novels, sci fi novels that are written on that ground. Arthur Clark. Sure childhood. Lanne. which was just redone on the sci fi channel recently. And isn't that fascinating that that's popping up at this time A att this time. And don' everybody what childhood Hood's N essentially says? This is the fascinating thing. It's incredible because you know this huge UFO appears and the overlords show up and we don't see who the overlord is And when they did it just recently on the sci fi chilling, it was very chilling And finally, you know, the overlord picks this one person human being to be a spokesperson, a liaison between the overlords and the people of Earth. But he won't let this spokesperson, this you know, see who he really is. Finally he reveals himself and and the scene from the sci fi channel is just chilling because all these people are awaiting to see Wh the overlord is and the overlord comes out A little boy and a little girl on either side and it is exactly you know, a picture of what we would think the horned one, Lucifer Satan is It's got the wings, you know, the the reptilian head, the huge rack of horns, the clot of the back the bat wings The bat wings. I mean, it's there and it's done, you know, twenty sixteen with all the CGI you know, power behind it and it's very, very chilling And you know, when you see that, everyone was taken aback by it And as you stated, why now? Why are they bringing this back Now I mean, it's just even even in the last Super Bowl twenty sixteen Super Bowl. There was references to UFO, not as blatant as in your face as twenty fifteen, but it was still there Here we have propaganda It's ye, it's masquerading as entertainment. goodood clean sci fi and it tells a great story we have an overlord who's looking out for us. and though we may think he's a dark figure, you know, with bat wings and horns and he has kind of leathery reddish skin or whatever He's the good guy. Yeah It's all flipped. As you were talking U I flipped over here to Daniel, chapter nine, verse twenty seven, onene of the key passages in the entire Bible Talking about the Antichrist in the same context as we're talking about the guy that steps off the UFO with a couple of children. and he looks like Satan And we read here in Daniel nine twenty seven, and he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week, that would be the Antichrist and the week being a week of years. And in the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, meaning that he has in some way brought about the possibility for the Jews to build a temple and to once again resume sacrificial worship there But he causes it to cease in the middle of the year. But I'm getting to a point that goes back to childhood's end. he and for the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate And Jesus in the New Testament quotes this and calls it the abomination of desolation, Matthew twenty four. Here it's called the overspreading of abominations. Now in the Hebrew language That is Hakanv Hashe Kutim Huck enough means a wing And H she would seem means off horrors And so here In Hebrew, it says that the Antichrist is a wing of horrors. What an image. Interesting. And you were talking about the man that comes out of the spaceship with two children and he's got Bat's wings, you know, this imagery sticks in my mind. A wing of horrors. What a thing to call the abomination of desolation? You know, what's interesting is that you know, and you mentioned this just earlier that why now? whyy are they bringing this to the forefront now? I mean, we are being inundated. with the whole idea that we were seated here from extraterrestrials, the overlords are coming. Those who created us are going to come back again, going back to the ancient aliens series, you know, they and the beginning of that show every week, you know Who were they? Where did they come from Will they return? They pose these questions to the audience? And You know, I truly believe and this is what I've been really criticized for this. I believe this is the coming great deception term that I used in my novels The Nephlland trilogy, you know, fifteen, sixteen years ago now I coined that phrase The coming great deception Other people use it and that's fine. but But that it's not found in the Bible the coming G deception And it flies into the whole second Thalon. Let me ask a question on that note. Theoming great deeception. You wrote this how many years ago? Well, really, it's more like eighteen years because I started writing in Nephalim in you know two thousand So nineteen ninety eight roll the years back and go back eighteen years and imagine what you were thinking at that time Has your thinking changed from then until now My thinking has you know, the basic premise of the argument has never changed, but what I realize is that I was only scratching the surface, you know, eighteen years ago and the research actually goes back in nineteen ninety and based on the works of Dr. ID. E. Thomas, who I considered a mentor. The Omegan Conspiracy, fantastic b to cut your teeth on. Yeah. But I always see this is a very complex scenario carefully guarded And I realize this sounds like conspiracy stuff and in some ways it is But there is a conspiracy and that conspiracy is a Luciferian one. conspiracy is is spawned in Hell's kitchen as Rust Isdraar would call it That's where it's from. and it's very, very complex. And it ties in with biblical prophecy, I think on many different points Unfortunately, the church for the most part, and I'm painting a very broad brressure won't even discuss the subject. And yet this is the same Bible that talks when Jesus rolls into a town and cast out demons and, you know, they they say, what have you got to do with the Son of God And he just, you know, All that. I mean, he's dealing with the supernatural let's say, for instance, when he's on that boat. And that storm comes up out of nowhere and I've written about this in the Cosmic chess match. I believe That was not just a coincidence. I believe Satan, the fallen Cherub created that storm to kill him because he's trying to kill Jesus all through his ministry. That's what he wants to do And then Jesus goes be st in the whole thing like like a wet dish rag. If you go into the Hebrew, that's what it's like. just like a towel just dropping. storm just instantly stops. And then something else happens, which which is just astounding They instantly arrive at their destination And that's moving from point A T Travelers of the Bible, your a book Moving from point A to point B instantaneously, and you can't do that here. He is the master of time Yes is he is. He created time and space. Why can't he move through it? He's having fun doing it. And he does Let's let's go back now to the sci fi mode because this intrigues me. I remember many, many years ago I think the first, if you will, the first Bockbuster sci fi movie was the day the Earth should st. Oh yeah whereere you actually have the figure of a very handsome, charming spaceman playlayed by Michael Renny at that time, kind of a heart throb, a leading man He lands on in Washington near the White House and he says, I'm here to warn you all that if you don't shpe up, we're going to have to destroy your planet. So he comes as a kind of a savior And he calls a meeting of all the great minds. You know, of course, you've seen the movie and so has everybody But essentially, this guy was a false Messiah. Much like childhood's annt, you have a dragon looking character who is a false Messiah coming out of a spaceship with two children I'm thinking about sci fi, the whole track of sci fi in the last sixty years or so. propaganda It's amazing propaganda to me when you stop and think about u and and I'm going back to the peopleople you mentioned who attend church and They never hear teaching in church that would warn them about any of this stuff. But on the other hand, when they go home from church There it is. there it is. and They buy tickets, they go to the movies, they see Alien, and they see Star Wars, Star Trek. Star this and star that. I can't think of all the names you can, I'm sure But they're all propaganda, subtle propaganda, antiiblical propaganda. How does that happen You know, what's interesting is as you go back to where the worlds When that when that radio broadcast, Yes People committed suicide because they were terrified that we were being invaded by an extraterrestrial force I believe that That was the government looked at that Powers that they looked at that and they went, oh my gosh And so for the last sixty, seventy years, there's been a continual effort to condition public and the way they and I realize, you know, I' got my tinfoil hat here on because it's all stuff a conspiracy. But the bottom line is, you know, you go to a theater, you see this stuff and it over period of time, people become conditioned the idea that we're not alone in the universe, that extraterrestrials are here. and oh wait, they may have even created us idea of panpermia, which again going back to dooc is what That's his default paradigm and that's where he goes when pushed, that's where he goes And I think recently We talked about this off camera that Um with a remake of the X Files television show.. And so the following day It's on Fox Ns and there's Gretchen Carls and I actually have the clip and she she's talking about the CIA releasing photographs that were once classified from the forties, fifties, and sixties. And what's fascinating about this, she, you know, why reporters in this country talk about the OFO phenomenon. always They always like yuck it up. sort of tongue in cheek. Well, they're back again, you know that type of deal. And they yuck it up. And then, you know, she cuts to Trace Gallagher and he yucks it up And this subject is like, wait a minute, why are you guys laughing? This is like The repercussions of this affect every single person on this planet. and you guys are making sort of a joke about it And I take umbraidge with that. I mean, I really do because What they're doing is they're deliberately obfuscating. Oh nothing to worry about. It's all okay. Look. If something I've spoken to people I mean, not this is not hearsay. this is not whispered down mane. and this is why the church needs to wake up, especially some of the critics and understand like Ricky Sorl, and I've written about this in the book further evidence. Sorl was out in Stevenville, Texas. He was out deer hunting One day, okay guy is thirty out six. He gets caught up in some brrambles. backs out of the Bambles with his gun and he looks up like this above him Is this ginormous, enormous craft He looks in every direction He can't see the end of this thing. Andt at one point he thinks about shooting it Now That changed his entire paradigm. that incident changed his life. He was confused. This man was a Christian I sent some books, I talked to them. half a dozen times, perhaps more on the phone, did the interview with them and he was he was shocked shock to his core. What Christians don't understand We're told that Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. We're told that even the elect would be deceived that were possible. Men fain from fear for us coming upon the earth We start looking at all these prophetic passages What does that point to? And then you look at Ricky Sarl, a mile wide craft, this guy was shaken to his core, Gary, shaken to his c a mile wide craft. huge. I can't even conceive it. I can't either. uh Apparently it was low. It was just over Very low just over the tre topops And when when it went away, it began to lift and then turn at a forty five degree angle. and then off and a few minutes later, a squadron of F fifteen s or sixteens came streaking by following the craft What happens if not one of these, but a couple of dozen of these things appear over the cities of the world? It is game over. That's the program V is also indndependenceay, which by the way, Independence Day is being reissued In which you have these gigantic craft, maybe mile wide craft coming and trying to subdue planet Earth turn humans into slaves. We don't know why they're here, but they are evil, dark forces and they're out there and I think Christians look at those movies as entertainment when you and I look at them After years of researching this from a biblical perspective, we look at them as the dark powers of the air And we think of these forces advancing in the latter days as being the precursors of the rule of the Antichrist I have my Bible open here to Daniel chapter eleven. and uh the Wilful king And you and I have talked about this before. is said to speak marvelous things against the God of God. So other words, he's going to stand up and blaspheme God openly without fear of reprisal He's not going to regard the God of his father, says Daniel. He's going to honor the God of forces He's going to honor a strange Godd and the word strange here in Hebrew is the same word that you use for alien, an alien God LA, that brings us precisely to where we are right now. And Christians need to know about this You know, this is interesting. Here we are. We're discussing this in twenty sixteen, specifically in Fbruary twenty sixteen. Im I making this up Last night You know, we went out to dinner with with Bob Alwk and his wife, Chrissy and wife Peggy and we had a wonderful dinner on the way back, to where we were staying My iPhone went off. I looked at it. It was a text from a a man who I've texted before, we've had communication He said we were my girlfriend and I were riding in our car And I won't tell you where it was, but, you know, in the United States and u All of a sudden this orb streaked in front of us And they, you know, it ss at night and they're just driving in the car, minding their own business and this org just appears and streaks in front of them, kind of hovers and then darts off in the distance. They were both taken aback by what They' seen the girlfriend went, wow, that was really cool Christian girl. That was really cool What she had just seen? He said no And he began to pray against it. And this is what people and I've've look, a friend of mine who is a pastor, lives in Malibu, okay. He's got this amazing. In fact, you've stayed at the house, so you know who I'm talking about Gs got this amazing view of the Pacific. It's like one hundred and eighty degree view of the entire Pacific and he's up about five hundred feet above sea level. So he's got just an amazing perch there And this is just a couple of weeks ago He was looking out in the ocean at night And all of a sudden there's like five or six lights appear Now these aren't fishing boats and the lights start doing this. darting across the ocean at high speedch crisscross can't happen stopping. It can't happen. Yeah. And he's this is a pastor And he's mesmerized by what he sees. He's captured. Wow, what is that? He's running around trying to get his camera to get a photograph of it That's my point Unless we understand and it's rooted inough. and this is what part of what I teach when I'm at conferences, rebuke first, ask questions later When we see something like that, we need to go immediately in the warfare mode and start rebuking the Lord rebuke you in the name of Yeshua, in the name of Jesus Father, send your angels to counteract this activity in the name of Jesus. Immediately, that's the position that we have to take Well, this is fascinating because again, I'm open to Ephusion six and it speaks about what you're talking about It talks about principalities, powers, rulers of darkness. They're there. You've tracked them. You've seen their hand prrints on the wall literally literally by the is that Watchers ten, by the way? No, that was Watchers seven. seven. Yeah, tenen is not out yet, but we're working on. That' very. Nice plug. Thank you. I had to do that because LA is known for the Watchers series and he's just working on number ten, which is going to be phenomenal. off the hook. Let me tell you It's right here in front of me in sccripture. What you're talking about? Principalities, powers, rulers of darkness, spiritual wickedness in heavenly places. That is Look up There places's what we're seeing in that we're seeing dimensional shifts, things that appear and disappear. And then Paul says exactly what you said here in verse thirteen, wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God that you may be able to withstand in the evil day Are we in the evil day The short answer is yes And the reason why I say that is I think occult activity, look, just go to the twenty sixteen Super Bowl. And it's an ocult love sest. Last year, the woman rides a beast Now is that Ishtar or is that going back to the book of Revelation or is it both? I mean, it is in our face. Look at the new TV show on Fox News, Lucifer Oh, LA, you're just taking these things too seriously. I don't think so at all I think we're in the window of time where we are rapidly approaching a climax here. and lawlessness rules on this planet. I mean, you know, all the signs that Jesus warns us what will precede his second coming are in full blown operation, in my opinion They are they are to theenines. They're happening in ways You know, let's go back thirty years ago I just would never imagine that that we're seeing the things that we're seeing the lawlessness, the fact that nine Supreme Court justices decide against what most American people would say, we don't want this. Now is the law of the land And our President Obama stands up and says, you know, love triumphs or whatever he says. I'm talking about, of course, the homosexual agenda where now it's okay for, you know, gays to marry And Christians look at that and go, well, wait a minute, that's a direct assault. to what we believe as Christians. that marriage is between one woman And one man, one man and one woman And you know, if I say anything against that, I'm a homopho byy saying against the rise of Islam. and the jihadist. I'm You know, it is long before, but on don't on it goast The political correct nonsense has to stop. Yeah. Well political correctness, in my opinion, is censorship. It is E exactly what it is.ism. Gag order. You can't say this. You can't say that. What we would like to say, however, and During this conversation, it's at least my desire Tw make The average churchger understands why we're delving into scripture in the way that we are the Lord called us to look at the deep things of Bible prophecy. and when you look into them You discover that not all is sweetness and light. Of course, the most wonderful thing I can think of is the catching away of the church. I mean it could happen in the middle of this conversation. greatreat escape. Oh, well, people scoff at it Oh, you're talking about the great escape. You just wanted to get out of here, you know, Be brave, be strong. You could go through the tribulation U That's sort of one motif No, Christianity is bright, it is beautiful. it is redemption, It is resurrection to eternal life in a glorified body The Lord through hisis grace has deposited us into a very evil world Think about this, a hundred million people killed by communism worldwide over the last seventy years Brazil.ure Okay a hundred million. And a lot of them Christians sought out and killed because they're Christians over the last seventy years. And a lot of them are being sought out and killed Right now, as we speak, certainly in the middle' Chistian. Absolutely. And all this, which is very factual, is sort of forgotten about. about that. Why? Because we're blessed of the Lord. We as a body of Christ are just blessed, you know, and we are. Uh and we celebrate that in church every Sunday and in our Uh, ations with other Christians. h common ground that we share. point Onia, if you will, to summon up a term good good old biblical term. we it's one big family and I think we sort of relax into that and look away from the dark things that the Bible said would come upon the earth. Let me add to that. You know, you talked about a hundred million people dying in the gulag. Social Netian would put that number higher, especially when when you add China in, but no matter. I mean, the mind reels at that When you add to that, the one billion aborted babies. since Roe v. Wade, which is unprecedented It is absolutely an unprecedented holocaust which I mean, a billion unborn babies killed, ripped, destroyed from their mother's womb. and treated with absolute disrespect after they removed in the same way a butcher handles no steak.s prettytty much awful and the I guess the thrust of this from our perspective Number one, we know the times in which we are living And we say, what in the world can we do about this? And we often just come up short there. What can we do that's a very, very interesting question. because of the prophetic narrative We know that things are going to lead to a climax. We're in the midst of a cosmic regime change Yeah a new phrase that I've coined, but that's what it is. It's a cosmic regime change This system and you talked about earlier, the God of this world Satan is about to be deposed And we're we're beginning to see those signs. The king The king will return. That is our hope. I mean, that's we're not ever going to change the ideology of Hamas or Hezbollah or jihadist or the Mulls in Iran. That ideology is never going to change It's not going to change the mind of the abortionists who just you know, kill on demand or certainly the liberal feminist who this body is mine and you have absolutely no right to it at all. and I'm going to kill all the unborn babies I want to, including partial birth abortion, which is about as satanic as you can possibly get So You know, my hope My My real hope at the and it's something I say sometimes that at conferences or whatever, that the only way out of this mess is up. and what I mean by that Yeah, look, I'm here. We're talking about the stuff. peopleople gets, you know, saved through our ministry, they come to a knowledge of Jesus. and that's wonderful. That's great. And I can all I can do as a watch person or as a watchman is worn the folks of what I see coming and you can laugh at me. I don't care. I'm doing my job. This is what I see. I see judgment coming For the most highigh God Certainly after, I think a line was crossed last summer with the with the gay marriage deal. I think that we've reached, you know, the blood of these innocent children crying out which is, you know, people say LA, when you call it a ritual, satanic offering a blood offering, How can you possibly say that You know if Vakas aren't Satanist. Yeah, they're not Satanist, but they're basically doing the same abominable acts that we see recorded in the Old Testament. it's there It's happening. So in my opinion The only way out of this is up We're not going to fix it And I realize that that's sort of a defeatist attitude before I get to the punchline We can influence many people and we do that through My ministry, the ministry that we have, your ministry here of prophecy Watchers is absolutely all day long And you're making a difference. This platform creates content and people look at this and it changes people's lives and hearts and minds and their paradigm and the way they wit the world, in the way they view the world The only way out of this, and this is my blessed hope, and I know it's yours is when we hear that trumpet call, And up we go Who wants to be here? This place is incredibly evil and insane It's going to be a world that you won't even recognize where the supernatural becomes the natural And we're edging into it right now. There's I think a millennia long resistance to talking about the supernatural The church tries to compact everything into the real and to minimize the supernatural For good reason, it because you don't want people running wild in the supernatural. You want to try to keep them sensible and sane On the other hand, the supernatural is very much a part of the church. very much a part of the church. and we're indweled by the Holy Spirit. You can't get anym supernatural You go that. But There's something else and I want to change the subject slightly, but move into a different area because you've been deeply, deeply criticized u for The amount of time you've spent researching the ancient Nephalim story the fallen ones And we have here a ke verse in Matthew, chapter twenty four The Oliveant discourse where Jesus is seated on the Mount of Olives with H disciples. They're looking across the Kidron Valley at the temple, which has not been destroyed yet. beautiful one of the wonders of the world and Jesus breaks the bad news to them. This whole thing's gonna to come down and In the end times, he says As the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of M be. veryer harmless innocent little state, Matthew twenty att least on thef on the surf. Matthew twenty four thirty seven utterly revolutionary. And I want you to go back, revisit the days of Noah, come forward And I want ultimately to end up No with a gentlemen you interviewed in one of your watchatchers series Okay And this gentleman is a tenured professor. Oh, yes. And we're going to mention his name later, but absolutely let's go back to the days of the days of Noah. Well, the first thing that we have to understand, and you brought this up at the Nephalon Mounts confference, which is incredible. It's all about the seed, your presentation. talalking about Genesis three where the scene is Adam and Eve and the serpent and the Most High God and he's saying, you know, the seed of a serpent will be at Eity at war with the seed of the woman. That's Sperma. And we can tap dance around that all we want to But seed is sma. We know that the se of the woman becomes Messiah, the seed of a serpent becomes the anntichrist in my opinion. He doesn't go to anntichrist school to become the anntichrist. It is the offspring of the serpent couple of chapters over. We see the eruption of the seed warar in Genesis six. The sons of God Sw the daughters of men, desired, took wives wh whomever they chose, went into them in the biblical sense, and the entities that were born, the offspring, the progeny The fallen angels, the women of Eth were, of course, the Nephalim. And this is a very controversial passage. and I get it. Some people insist that angels can't have sex and they point to it says, well be like the angels, not given in marriage. Okay, it says we're not married in heaven. I get that. But it doesn't say we're sexless And how do we know the angels aren't? They lusted after the women of Earth. And they did this before they came down while they were still up there which gives us a great big clue And now. Let's stop right there. and Those of us who are joining us in this conversation, I want to say one thing. We're not being deliberately provocative here. We're just simply attempting to in clear plain terms bring the Bible story up to date in the context of the twenty first century When you go down and you pay your eight dollars and fifty cents or whatever you pay for a ticket and see Independence Day apocalypse and mile wide ships come and you're just eating popcorn and just enjoying this and thinking that this is fiction. It's not fiction. No It is the archetype of something very horrible that the Bible says is going to befall planet Earth. Now, back to the story. Okay So we know that the Nephalim were on the earth and it corrupted the entire bloodline. And the reason for this and I discussed this at great length in my book The Cosmic Cest Match, but what's happening is this move and counter move between the Mos Hi god and the fallen chherb You know, most high God creates Adam and Eve, that's the one move. And I believe that that was a replacement for the fallen angel. Satan sees that his move is to corrupt man and womom and make them fall, which is what he does in the garden. C of move to that is to promise the Messiah. K of move to that. now we're in Genesis six All he has to do is wipe out the human bloodline, contaminate the DNA. N Messi will be born. Planet Earth is mine. I win, you lose game over. And he almost succeeds except for the eight people that were taken on the ark. And I want to address something here that unless all those people were pure in their lineage, their DNA was completely intact and there was no nephylen blood. In my opinion, with all due respect to some researchers out there, it impuges God's character. It's going to wipe out the entire planet but somehow miss onene of the wives or whatever is being part of Eelim andette creates a second incursion. I don't believe that for a second I believe there was a second, multiple incursions actually, all through history right down to the present day. And our watchers watchers seven watches eight gets into this. And this is, you know, you talk about censorship and gag orders, you know, political correctness, but we have the exactly the same thing in the church. Well you can't talk about this. This is what does this have to do with Jesus? It has everything to do with Jesus. He warns us to be like the days of Noah. And our research is showing the folks that, oh my gosh, what happened in the days of Noah similarly is happening today in modernity. And Josephus looked back at the days of Noah and the descent of the, if you will, the demagods. sureure. And he drew the conclusion that they were the same demagods as the Greeks and the Romans have in their mythology. In other words, the Greeks and the Romans were in an imperfect way attempting to describe something that really happened. And we've branded it mythology, It's really the supernatural and' destined to happen again And Josephus also says that the bones of the Nephileim, the bones of these creatures were on display, openly on display in Jerusalem to show future generations what their ancestors thousands of years ago fought, what was in the land. The bones were displayed, and I find that chilling. And humanity is having a mask pulled over its face right now. Humanity is being blindfolded to the reality of this soon coming revisitation of the old world. Jesus said it would happen as it was in the days of Noah. In fact, I'm reading the King James, but as the days of Noah were, and LA has detailed that, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. In other words, in the era of his coming, there will be a repetition of this horror can't overremphasize how horrible it is. Now you interviewed a gentleman, tenured professor, Dr. David Jacobs. and at this point in time, start by telling us this man is not a wild a wild off the hook sort of a crazy running around and waving his arms and saying, they're here, they're here. Yeah. He's an accademician. Yeah And what is he saying Well, doctor David Jacobs was a tenure professor at Temple. He's retired now. But he was a tenure professor for decades he's written several books. And when he began to look into what is known as the abduction phenomenon, and again, we address this. We get letters and emails from people and I'll tell you your story in a little bit. you know, about one elder in a church, no overt sin in his life, you know, nothing hiding. I mean, the guy was just a pillar in the church and he was basically almost abducted, floating over the bed, getting ready to be sucked out wall through the wall and he knows that. and he said the blood of Jesus and bam it stopped the whole thing. And so that's the you know, the thumbnail sketch of it. But Dr. David Jacobs first got into this the idea when people would come to him and they would tell him stories about being taken at night against their will by these little gray guys with large heads and, you know wrap around black guysyes and the old story that everybody makes fun of now. Right. It we're culturated. It's been yeah been debunked.ure hasn't been debunked. And what's interesting about this is look, there's wings of the Christian church which insisted, all this is delusion and it's not really happening. And that's why we made watches seven and eight because it's physical evidence. It's not delusion. It's physical hardcore physical evidence. The problem with this is with Jacobs, he's listening to this and someone else comes to him with the same kind of story. And then someone else comes to him. and pretty soon he's got maybe half a dozen people that he's seeing and talking to and realizing that there's no collusion between them And they're all telling the same story And at that moment, his mind goes off the rails as it were. And he comes on record to us and says, I went around for six months going, oh my go, oh my God, oh my God, Ohh my God. He couldn't get his head around it. In other words, it shattered his paradigm completely. He couldn't imagine that this thing was going on And the deeper he goes with his study with his research, he realizes and he states this and watches seventh. He states it unequivocally and also his newest book. They were walking among us There seems to be a breeding program that is going on, that whoever these entities are or wherever they are from They are interested in creating a hybrid being So that screams Genesis six and it screams Matthew twenty five. And in other words, they want to mix their seed with our seed Their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they shall not cleave to them, and that's given in marriage. That's, by the way, mentioned by Daniel, the prophet. Yes Yes. And it's all about seed. It is not about some metaphor of seed meaning generation. It's about the actual genenetic information being exchanged DNA, if you will, human and alien DNA being mixed together for what purpose Well, they're creating hybrid being Chuck Missler would state that Satan is out numberumered two to one and he's creating an army. He states that and I think watchers seven. you know, unequivocally. and that was from an interview that we did actually for Watchers One and we saved that clip for later on You know, saves down number two to one, he's building an army. That's what's going on. Okay. now we've come to a point here and I want to just take a deep breath And I want to say to those of you who are with us right now. LA's got so much more that he could say. But what I want you to do is address your remarks to believers right now. What would you say to someone who's out there and maybe hearing this for the first time and becoming frightened What would you say to that person? Well, the first thing we have to understand is we've not been given a spirit of fear, but a power, love and a sound mind. I mean, that's what we're supposed to walk in. pututting on the armor of God, understanding what that is, how it protects us. And then looking at the biblical prophetic passages which warn that something is coming, which will cause men will think from fear for it is coming upon the earth. It's not a bedtime story. And if we're in the window of time, and I believe we are, it's not like we're, you know, it's coming. It's already here We're already hearing stories from people, encounters with what appear to be hybrid beings where the eyes go black, where you know, people look at bilocation where some entity is here and all of a sudden in a blink of an eye, the entity is moved You know, one hundred yards away, materialization, dematerialization. I mean, it's all over the map. And this what's happening in my opinion and this is, you know, I've been harping on this in our discussion. When you think about the one billion aborted babies, that's a blood sacrifice that opens up the gateways that gives them legal right to manifest. And what people don't understand, this is what happened You know, in places like Chitzanita where fifty thousand people were were killed. It happen bllood sacrifice has been going on on this planet for thousands of years. And then in the Christian era kind of pulled back. Now it's here again. A billion babies since RoeV W opens up the gateways opens up the portals and they're manifesting. Remember Mollech in the oldld Testament? got He would heat a, the god Mollech up until he was red hot fill him with charcoal, this bronze god. And in his lap was a bed of flaming charcoal. peoplee would toss their living babiesraz into the charcoalra The babies would go up and smoke and the people Praise the God a sacrifice. As a sacrifice. In some way they connected the sacrifice of that child with some blessing in their lives. What we're doing now is not so different from that. Their lives are being blessed because they have sexual freedom, no consequence, they have developed, if you will, a new religion No, I agree and and that That new religion is not only here in the United States, it's global It is global. We've spread the abortion idea on a global level. And so all these things are happening in the era in which we find ourselves, therefore, it's not out of order at all to be talking about the occult within the context of Christianity I want to take you back to childhood's end. You described how that happens that it turns out that our saavior really has leathery skin, horns, a tail, bat wings, cloven hoofs, cloven hoofs, the whole nine yards And I'm going to Revelation chapter thirteen, verse eleven, and I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth and he had two horns like a lamb, but he spake as a dragon. and he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast deadly wound was healed. All of this is occultic supernaturalism. It's right in your Bible. and the common reaction is, well, that hasn't happened yet. That's not going to happen for a long, long, long. Certainly not in life. I won't have to worry about it. We think we're getting close to this And he doeth great wonders So and get this, and I want you to comment on this sentence so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the side of man. Does that sound like a UFO Godd? Oh, it's just allegory. Oh Gary. I mean, that's never going to happen. Oh, okay. ye. Nothing to fear, nothing to worry about When This is what drives me nuts. When we read our Bibles, and we get with scripture like this R where it talks about calling fire down from heaven, that's literal. And that's shocking. It is shocking. We've never seen stuff like that before and certainly not in modernity. We've seen Sips Yeah hover Yeah over a reservoir and beams alike dp down. People say, what are they doing? Taking water up into their ships? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. But we do see these ships that cast down a beam that may look like fire In fact, it may be real fire in the very near future when they finally expose themselves. Some kind of high frequency laser. I mean, who knows what it's going to be? But it's in the Bible. But and it's literal. And this is what people don't get. I mean, if this is all coming upon the earth and I understand, you know I don't want to see the Antich Christ. I have no desire to see this guy But if we're in this window of time, more than likely he's already on the earth. and he may actually be you know he may be right in front of us and we don't know it. And the reason why I say this, how many people showed up for the Messiah's birth Nobody did You know, I mean, you have to have a celestial invitation for some angels and this a couple of shepherds went in there and sa. And then later on the magi comes, you know, two years later, whatever. So I mean, we think we know, but we really don't know. We see through that that glass, you know, dimly We don't you know, okay, we have an idea, but we're not sure how this is going to look. But stepping back and looking what's manifesting, It is the UFO phenomenon, in my opinion, that and all of its crop circles. I mean, you know, the alien the so called implants, which may tie into the mark of the beast. and I've written about this. we've discussed it before. You know, what do you do with that? when these implants Actually move underneath the skin, when the implants seem to be changing the host DNA, when they give off a frequency of three hundred and thirty hertz or when they show up on a gaus meter and read it, you know eight point zero or eight point five milligals, how is that possible? It can't be It can't possibly and yet it's doing all this. We have no idea what these things do and yet we posit that they're actually changing the host's DNA and they may be prototypes to the mark of the beast. That's chilling because now it's not words on a page. Now it's like, oh my gosh, if we're right, we're handling prototypes of what may be the mark of the beast. And we actually in watch watchers seven and eight, we interviewed a guy who was abducted, went up through the ceiling, the whole nine yards, had an implant and we took it out and that's all on camera That's hardcore physical evidence that something is going on. and the church needs to address it, instead putting a gag order you know on our mouths and not allowing us to talk about it. And they're ridiculing us. One man wrote this hit piece on me, I won't tell you who he was wrote a hip piece that's all over the internet. and I challenged the guy, called him up, emailed him rather, and I said, haveave you actually read any of my material? You know what his answer was? Well, I've skimmed one of your books So here he is, he's blasting away onn the internet, he's never reading the material He has skeptically skimmed one of your books. Yes. And there's a lot of skepticism and I can understand that. I can easily put myself in the shoes of someone who refuses to go there because it's too uncomfortable It's very uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable for me. My preacher never talks about it. My dad never talked about it. My mom, my uncle, Charlie why out? It's not in our family. don't We want to just live good normal lives. We want to worship the Lord, go to church. Please don't bother us. these stories and yet we're there. And I think the Lord's given you an anointing. There's never comfort in Bible prophecy. The Old Testament prophets actually sometimes died for their prophecies. They came and said thingsings that people didn't want to. Now I'm not saying No I get it. I it trust me. I get it. That's not saying. Part of me just wants to sell my property, take my money. I'm sixty five years old, go someplace and disappear. And I mean that. Part of me just wants to disappear I'm not if you had told me thirty six years ago when I gave my life to Jesus that I'd be doing this. I would have run in another the room screaming You don't volunteer for this stuff. I mean, I was sort of groomed along the way and and you know, here I am and it's like, you know Some of it is very dark. I put on my armor daily, sometimes two or three times during the course of a day. and I have to walk in a very circumspect way Very much so. I have to tell this little story. because it fits so beautifully with what you're talking about I lived in Wichitaw, Kansas. I worked for an aircraft company, an internationally known aircraft company. and I was a pilot and On a particular day, it was a Friday evening, as a matter of fact, just after sunset This got newspaper and television coverage that you just can't believe. At twenty first in Amadon in Wichita, Kansas, a UFO landed busy intersection At the same time At Wichita Municipal Airport, a UFO was caught on radar, which is an unlikely situation. Usually they don't show up on radar. This one did. It flew over the airport and landed three, four miles south of the airport in a field behindway Patrol went down there. It was sitting there pulsing and glowing in a field They were scared to death, didn't get out of their cars. A local reporter went down and took pictures of it on the ground And the next morning, you know, it was all the papers. It was on local television And within a week, it never happened. But it had an effect on me because this was something very, very real. And at that time I hadn't really begun to delve into what was going on here. Well now, many decades later, I go back to that incident And I can see how that fits in to this whole development this latter day scheme of systematic desensitization. You show yourself and disappear. showh yourself and disappear. And at first people say, o, we just thought we saw that. And yeah, the highway patrol thought that they saw something land in a field, but you in a few months, it really didn't happen And yet the seed's been planted. Well, this's been going on literally since nineteen forty eight and Roswell. Sure. And the method of the enemy is to desensitize people to this phenomenon So that they can scoff at it and say, well, it doesn't really exist and everything is okay and no problem. And yeah, some crazy people say they see these things This is the way Satan works notot only in ephology, if you will, but in his entire character. He works by trying to convince people I'm no problem. I don't even exist In the oldge this is the truth LA. a lot of people will just look you right in the eye and say, I don't believe Satan exists What do you say Well, there', you know, that's exactly what the enemy wants because if you don't believe in him, then you'll never you have no idea what warfare is and how to stand up against the Godd of this world, the God of this age. unless unless the church teaches that and teaches how to put on the armor and begin to because Paul says it in the Phesians, we're fighting against, you know, cosmocrots, archons. I mean, it's all there. And it's just the church needs to understand that unless we begin to engage, we will perish. We will be just like Jesus says, unless even the elect would be deceived. If we're still here and something happens and I again, I point to second Thessalonians, which is a very, you know I get it, it's a very controversial passage of scripture. But the bottom line is what if the apostasa, the apostasy, is the great falling away. What If that happens, that begs the question, what would cause millions of Christians around the world to abandon their faith? And that's part of what we're trying to warn against You know, like my friend the Pastor I Malibu with one hundred and eighty degree, he was overwhelmed by what he saw. He was captured by it. He wasn't rebuking first and ask questions later. He was like, wow, did you see that? The girl, the girlfriend that we talked about earlier in the car Oh wow, look at that orb. That was really cool No it wasn't And that's, you know, and it's just like childhood then we're right back at the beginning. Thereere we go, right back to the beginning massive propaganda and injected right into the middle of that is An LA Marzuli who wades in at full speed to try to warn people that this is happening. It has a biblical base. You can understand it through sccripture and you can prepare yourself for what's coming through prayer and Bible study. Amen. This is your message, right? Amen. That's it. Put on the armor of God, folks, understand the tenuous emulsuous unprecedented times that we are living in and you know take a stand, begin to tell people about the good news about eternal life, about the coming king. You in the next minute or so Where are we in terms of prophecy these days? Somebody might ask you, how And we're all asking that these days. How long do you think it's going to be before our roord returns? And I'm not asking you to name it. no dates. no dates. I think soon Tell everybody what you think. I honestly think it's soon. I think that we're in a window of time that unless he returns soon because of the work of Tom Harren and Chris Partman, transhumanism. Unless he comes soon, there'll be nothing human to come back to And that's another indication. With all the GMO foods and the RFID chips and all the stuff and they're spraying in the sky, he's got to come back. He's got to come for his people. I know that your heart burns, my heart burns for the return of the king. Oh yeah. That's our hope. That's our blessed hope And it's not a night or day that goes by that I don't, you know just go let it let it happen. You know, Marinatha, Lord Wow, LA, thanks for sharing this time. Thank you, Careary. What an honor with me and with those who have joined us. May the Lord bless you and your word, brother I can't wait until we can talk again. Yes, absolutely I'm Gary Steirermman. It's been my pleasure to talk to LA Marzuli for the past hour, and may I just say we're watching. So you keep watching too
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