The State of Investigative Journalism

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Today, Wednesday, June 3rd, ladies and gentlemen, look at him wearing the couch, because he knows it's our good friend Rob Stane from SeahoxDraftBlog.com. And of course you can follow him on YouTube, Rob Stain Football. Rob, how are you, sir? Uh fantastic puck. Uh the sun is shining in England. We've got a World Cup uh just over a week away, and uh there's stuff happening in the NFLs, so it's all good. Or times are good. Okay, we're gonna talk a lot of Seahawks. It's a big day for you. Are are you moving today? No, so we're we're moving house, but um we've we've agreed a price on our house and we've agreed a price on another house. It's a big day. And the kids have not seen the house, so we're taking them to see the house in about a week now. What a big day. All right, we'll we'll get you in and out. And and at some point we've got to address so this year, real quickly before we get to the Seahawks and everything that's happening, a wild off season, we'll get to the Rams and everything. And uh trust me, for those that are watching and listening, we'll get to the mayors later in the show, okay? The um The uh the Eng how is England going to disappoint you this year? How will they break your heart in the World Cup? When do you think it's going to happen? Well, it could happen at any time. You know, it could it it it could be the it could be the first game. Uh where they play Croatia. It it could they could they could sort of prolong the agony. Now England is well known for just getting your hopes up, I suppose. I I keep thinking there is there are some similarities between the sort of the England football fan and uh and the Mariners fan. The slight difference is that it's a whole country who have to taught uh be tortured together over here. And uh this is gonna sound really sad, Puck, but um I I have to say, there's nothing I want more in life. than to watch England win something. Like there's nothing else. You you can offer me anything. I I want England I will not if I die and don't see England win a tournament, I will Consider it's a life unfulfilled. But that's it. That's the beauty of of Being a sports fan is just that. It's like the you you're wearing the the cougar's hat. I it I feel the same way. I'm a tortured cougar fan that's also a tortured mariner fan. That they're just the same teams. This is every year. I'm I just wake up Waiting to be disappointed. And that's a terrible way to go through watching sports, but yeah, you want That's what makes it the the sports to me is the most Invigorating thing that we get to enjoy because it's just everything. You you live and die with a stupid sport. That's what it's. There's two things in that. I I've never understood the people who don't like sports for that reason 'cause there's there's just There's just such a you know, I I feel alive when I'm watching you know, when I'm watching England playing these games, especially the knockout games, I'll have never felt more alive. than in the 90 minutes of of football that I'm watching on the TV, uh, knowing that at any second something could go horribly wrong and I'm gonna be devastated, or something all going well and I'll be as high as a kite. And sort of living in that world the two extremes between devastation and and just amazing joy make you feel um so alive. Uh an It's it's unlike anything else in the world. And um, you know, I I I I just I'm can't wait for the World Cup start. The thing about the World Cup is it's every four years, which is it it increases the agony. Like if you don't win it. You've got to wait four years and as someone You know, who is e you know, I'm forty one now. So I I kinda th I look ahead and think God if they don't win it this year. Yeah. I'll be forty five. I I think this is the way that a lot of people out here, right? Like Jim's mother uh is She's in her nineties, I believe. That's all she wants. She wants to see the Mariners win the World Series. So there's a lot of people like that before like when it was the old conference. All I wanted is a college football fan. was to see Washington State win a Rose Bowl. Like I national championship, yeah, that would be great. I just wanted to win a Rose Bowl. And so, you know, and that's now that's over. That's never coming unless we somehow put our heads together and figure out and we'll we'll solve college football's ill wills and we'll put it back to normalcy. Maybe we'll get to that, but I don't know. Uh but yeah, those are the things. Those are the things that you'll want. God, when I was a kid growing up, all I wanted was the Seahawks to win it. Now they've won They've won two of them. They've been to God, how many have we been to now? Four. Four of 'em and so now it's like fulfilled. And it was weird because I was just talking to a buddy about this last night. It almost feels surreal that they won the Super Bowl. Yeah. It still for me even in June hasn't really kicked in. I don't know if you you share that as well or or if other people share that. A a little bit. And um it does seem all very surreal, given that this time last year w you and I had spent a lot of time talking about how do they fix the offensive line with no real thought as to they're gonna go on a Superbowl run, and yet they are the world champions. It's it's crazy. Can I ask you a question that What do you what do you like? When the team that you are passionately rooting for, whether that is the Kooks, Mariners, Seahawks or or something else, even your son's team, whatever it is, you know, if your daughter's competing. Because I am a an absolute terror. I am convinced. that at least a couple of next door neighbours have moved out. Because England have been playing in a tournament. And um so they won a World Cup penalty shootout eight years ago. And I was cheering so it was about eleven o'clock at night by the time the game had finished. I genuinely felt I have to go and apologize next door. It was more like a A scream Like it was just and it was long. And then when the and then it's a couple of years ago when they got to the final of the Euros, it was even worse. Like it was actu I felt a bit embarrassed afterwards that I'd made so much noise 'cause it's just It was on him. Completely unhinged. And um Yeah, I wanna know if uh if if if Americans are like that too, or whether that's just the the desperation of watching England coming out and I I think yes. I find my it's very weird if I think this would surprise a lot of people. I'd get very I'd get very calm. When I was younger, I would get really animated a lot. But now, like after I got out of my twenties, I just I don't know, I mellowed out a lot. Like you'll just sit me. Like I watch it almost like I guess I was a coach that can't overreact one way or the other because I just can't get up and down too much. Now don't worry about when it comes to the cougs, I've got two kids, especially an older daughter, she handles that all for me. Because she's a lunatic. An absolute lunatic. Hyperventilating cri I mean you should have seen I should have videotaped two years ago the Yappa Cup in Seattle where we won and Mateira had the game and we stop him the goal. I thought she was gonna fight somebody, and this time she was 15 years old. I mean if she had a knife on her, she would have gutted half the Husky fans in the audience. And um But I found myself just being more calm than ever because I just I used to get really, really worked up. I mean, that first Super Bowl when the Seahawks lost, that was a bad I was in a bad place. A real bad place. Very angry. But yeah, no, I'm I've I've calmed down more. I I was quite calm when in Santa Clara when Seattle won the Superbowl. I I think I just convinced myself that it was definitely gonna happen on on uh in in the two weeks leading up to the game. So it was kinda just expected, but Uh I say England won that shootout a couple of years ago and that and like I've cried after numerous England games where I've just been like, I can't believe like they've won and uh you know doing things and and if they won the World Cup, it would just I I've I keep I keep sort of running through in my head what I would do. I would probably just run down the street to the pub and just be like, Get me all the beer and just be like And like get me the I'd have like a champagne, anything, just any if it's wet, I would drink it. Yeah and and it would just be twenty four hours of the biggest bender you'd ever go on, uh if they won the world. Yeah, I think it's very different for because you mentioned earlier it's that world cup action for every four years and it's it's involves it's just not a city. It's not a community, it's an entire country that gets behind it. I don't know what the reaction here in the US would be if they ever, if they ever won it. mean I'm sure it would be great and pan it would be it would be panamonium, but I I don't You know, I listen, it's the you know, in terms of the the pecking order of sports, it's it's down there. So down. But but I think it would if they were to get there, you would see the rest of the country. Like jump on board. They would jump on the bandwagon to to support it and to be all in. And so I think it would be it would be great. But it's funny with the Seahawks thing, like even when they won it this year, I think we all probably thought They were gonna win the game. So I think there was this level of Maybe arrogance, confidence, what have you, going into the game. Even when they won, I was just like. It was an odd reaction for me. I I almost just felt like Yeah, they they should have won. And it wasn't like when they l when they won the first one. 'Cause that was the first one. But it was more just uh Yeah, they they they should have won. I'll tell you what, I mean I internalized it all, going back to you know getting up and down screaming, but that I've never witnessed a better game maybe in person in my life than I was sitting there with my son in that NFC championship game. That it just was it was that was the best theater I've ever I've ever seen. Yeah. Uh um can I ask can I ask you a question as well about the Trugs. So I I saw that the the Apple Cup, which I I had, you know, until I looked at the schedule, I had no idea it was uh happening as early in the season as it was. Uh, but then I was booking a trip to come out for week one. 'Cause I I wanna go and watch the the England the New England Patriots play the Seahawks again. uh see the banner being raised and uh catch a mariness game, which is what I did a year ago. And then I noticed the Apple Cup was on the uh the same Saturday before all of that. So I thought, well, I'm going to get out for the apple cup as well. But the flights were were really frustratingly difficult and I couldn't do it. So I'm flying Saturday. And then when they announced that the game had moved to Sunday I celebrated because I thought that's amazing. It's perfect. I can get to the apple cup now, because I'm gonna fly out on Saturday, I can go to the apple cup on Sunday, go to the Mariners, go to the Seahawks, then fly home. What a perfect. I know, it's perfect for me, but what but what are the what are like the the cougs and the huskies how how do they feel about a Sunday apple cup? Yeah, I don't know. I I think from maybe for some people they don't like it. I mean I'm a traditionalist. And but I also know that the genie's not going back in the bottle, right? It's it's never going back to what it was. I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe one day it does. And if it does, then we go back to when it was traditionally played. Great. But I mean tradition, you know, was thrown out. couple of years ago when the conference broke up, it was just over. So then they You know, they played the game differently at different times. It's not the last game of the year like it traditionally was. Okay. So if we we're just going down this pattern of breaking up traditions. The fact that they're doing it. In the first game of the year. Okay. Fine. mind it as much. I mean really the weather is great. I mean 'cause the weather can be terrible if even if it's in Seattle based on Pullman, but that's kind of the allure of it, especially when it's in Pullman. The old the chance of snow and all that, and the miserable conditions. And all the great memories that that has brought up from from games of of the past. But you know, now It's in Pullman in September. Weather's great. Seattle, great. The fact that it's on Sunday, I thought I would hate the idea. But then if you look at the schedule, 'cause there's no NFL. It's the standalone game on NBC. There's nothing else going on. There's a game after it. But it's the only thing going on. So you're gonna have all these eyeballs on these two teams in a great rivalry. in a terrific stadium. The weather should be great. And when Kirby Moore and the Hus and the Cougars defeat Jed Fish. And his army of misfits, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a a one hell of a celebration on their field. I can't wait until General Kirby Moore marches in and beats their ass. It's gonna be wonderful. And the whole nation's gonna get a chance to see it, Rob. When when Damon Williams is booed off the field. And and 90% of that fan base didn't want him back. I'm gonna cry inside uh not not uh tears of unhappiness, but of joy, Rob. Well I look forward to it. I uh yes, yeah, I love uh look forward to it. Have you ever been to a game there? Yeah, I at uh what it Husky Stadium? Yeah. Yeah, I've been to uh three or four. Yeah, yeah, you'll enjoy you know, find someone with a boat. Have someone in a boat take you over. That's that's probably the way to go in for that game. I I know I know I'm wearing a Koog hat and uh and you were uh die hard Koog yourself as is Jim, but that view from the press box out onto the lake is great. It's it's unlike I've I I've never seen anything like that in this day. Absolutely beautiful. Um, all right, Seahawks off season. There's a lot that that's been going on, maybe a lot that hasn't gone on. They've done some things, obviously. The latest being uh the Derek Hall deal. Let's work then from there and then we'll we're we'll uh work backwards. We'll talk about JSN and then also Devin Witherspoon. What what did you make of the the Derek Hall deal? That surprised you? And all the money? I can't believe it. I'm absolutely stunned. I don't know how they've done this. Uh I thought that the lowest figure would be matching Boya Maffe's contract. And that the chances are it was gonna be something that gets done later in the season, you know, towards November, December. uh like Charles Cross or you might have to even go all the way through to free agency and then hope that he doesn't get They had to So to get this done On June the second And for the contracts, if you include the last year of his rookie deal is about, I think about eleven million a year over the next four years. is so incredibly stunning. I was gobsmoked and I I can't believe it. They've pulled off a a huge deal here. And I think it totally speaks to the culture and the atmosphere and the chemistry between this team that Derek Call has said, I don't want to be anywhere else. Let's get this done. Give me enough money to be set up for life, but my main motivation is I want to be here and I don't want to be looking over my shoulder throughout mini camp and eventually training camp. Well, I'm gonna tear my ACL or break my leg. Get me some money now. I don't need to bleed every penny out of you. Uh let's just do something and crack on. And uh this is the Biggest friendliest team deal. I can ever remember. from a Seahawks perspective, it's it's remarkable. I I did and I complimented you on social media. Because I I I enjoyed your reaction to the person that was on there. I believe he works for ESPN, I think. Who I think was Flummox. Maybe about the deal, didn't understand it, thought it's way too much money. And your response to I think it's Ben, you just said, Do you want? I he's he's had a couple of zany takes. Like he he said he had uh Sam D him and he and Mina Kimes had a quarterback ranking a couple of weeks ago. I did a video on this. And they had Sam Darnold nineteenth. Behind Kyla Murray. Oh. And uh I I just I thought You know, uh I I I I think a comment I made on the one of the streams that I did was that it was as if a toxic gas had spread across the United States like the first Batman film when Jack Nicholson was uh the Joker and had made everybody have brain rot because that was the worst quarterback ranking I remember. And then he sat there going, Oh, what a deal for the player. Like Derek Cole's got this uh you know, he he's got way more than I expected. And I I think did you watch the Super Bowl? Did you watch him like reckon the game aga yeah, admittedly against a terrible uh tackle, but it wasn't Leonard Williams, it wasn't D Law, it wasn't Chenner, it was it was Derek Hall, an unbelievable player, but between Ben Solak from ESPN and Peter Schreger, I don't know if the Peter Schrager one yesterday as well. I did not know. Let me tell you this quickly. He comes out and he goes, You'll never get you'll never believe this. Miles Garrett, right, had a first class flight. L did a press conference and you're not gonna believe this, then asked to do a workout. Can you believe that? He asked the Rams to do a workout after a first class flight and a press. Who does such a thing? What what a professional workout after a press conference. I mean, it's amazing. The guy is just on a different level when it comes to commitment. So that was well, I had to reply to that tweet as well. I am I am a a Peter Schrager fan, but it there's no one that has at least Publicly shown. their cards more than him of who he is in bed with than the LA Rams. You know, you know, when they came out, and I think this video has been playing on social media, how excited McVay was on the press conference with Garrett, then then they then they They put that side by side. with how he was not excited when they drafted Ty Simpson and he clearly wasn't excited. And he was not on board. And that was not his call. And anybody that's got an ounce of intelligence can see that with that press conference. But then Peter Schrager was the first one to come out. You know, I don't think we're getting the full story, which was clearly coming from him. Clearly coming from the Rams, feeding him all this information about how, no, no, no, he's on board, don't worry about it. There was this PR, you know. uh operation being run uh from their perspective. But yeah it's Yeah. U uh it's a master stroke, like getting Miles Garrett. I I It it just have to say it it is. Uh I I just think you can you can praise the Rams and you can say as we just have. Unbelievable trade. I can't believe they've pulled that off. And I will never forgive the Cleveland Browns. I hope that the factory of I hope their new building move again. Yeah, I hope the new building is is just retains the name the factory of sadness. Like it's I they deserve everything that's coming to them for trading Miles Garrett to the Rams. But it's an amazing deal for the Rams. We don't have to pretend. that uh a man who will have travelled in luxury to LA and suffered a uh the a press conference which I imagine was uh was absolutely powder puff uh and full of positivity then doing a workout is something like that I'm going to the gym tomorrow. Like I don't expect anyone to give me a round of applause when I work into the office to do an eight hour shift afterwards. Hey, I'm not gonna go to the gym tomorrow. I can guarantee everybody that all right so I I think these things can be both things can be true because I see where and again fans get defensive about this stuff all the time. And I get it. But You know, and and there's always been this like national disrespect for Seattle. I think they've had a great off season. It's not just Miles Garrett, it's the acquisition of of Trent McDuffie. It's the acquisition of Jalen Watson. I mean they have upgraded their defense. They've made a lot of great moves. And we'll see. And then of course Matt Stafford's back. This is it's a good team. It's a really good team. And you can make a real argument. A play boun a ball bounces here or there. Last year, they're in the Super Bowl. I think we all you and I said that. Whoever wins that championship game, that's the Super Bowl. They're gonna destroy New England. And that would have been the case. Had the Rams won, they would have murdered New England just like Seattle did. They have made a lot of great moves. I think if I were if I were neutral and putting money down. I would put money down on the Rams. I think they're the favorite to win it. That's not to say that I don't think Seattle can. Because the game isn't played in June and July and August when we're making bets. It's played on the field and weird things can happen. But I think it's okay to acknowledge They yes, they probably right now on paper are slightly ahead of Seattle. I think it's gonna be a hell of a season to watch these two teams. Go at it. And I am so happy, I bet you are too, that the NFL decided to put them in Australia. Are they going to Australia, right? They are. Yeah. I'm so glad that they put them in Australia. Cause that, I'm telling you, could be the huge difference this year on who wins the division. It it really could. And uh it's look, as someone who travels to to the West Coast fairly often It's not an easy recovery and it's it's there's nothing you can really do about it. Like you you don't just come home and go, Oh, I'm a bit jet lagged, I'll sleep this off. uh readjusting is is is terribly difficult. And uh that could be really challenging for the Rams and the Niners. And and who knows? Look Matthew Stafford is in his late thirties. I I'm not gonna hope for injury or anything like that. But you know if he if he gets injured, it does change their season a lot. You know, it it changes the complexion of everything. Just as it would if Sam Darnold got injured. But you know, you this is why you you sit through an NFL season and why no no uh championships are given out today. Like there's the at the minute the Rams are the red hot favourites, but it by October, November when the and You know, the Seahooks don't play the Rams till late in the season. You just don't know what sh what state the two teams are going to be in. Look at the Niners last year. They lost all their players. And um and and that could easily happen to to anybody, including the Rams. I'm just intrigued to see where it goes. All right. So they got haul done. JSN, we can put that on the back burner. Let's just let's focus on on Devin Witherspoon. Of course, the the Brady Henderson, who we both respect and like, has a report. I think it was taken out of context by some It it made it seem like oh they're they're just they're way far apart and they're not gonna they're th they can't possibly have any negotiations moving forward, right? I just think the line and I wish I had up in front of me, but it would just say, Hey, they're not They don't have a deal. They're not close to a deal yet. Okay, fine. It's call negotiations. That's how things work. Um I would assume and I don't know if you shared or not that this does get done before the season starts. I would put my mortgage and my savings on this getting done before the season starts. That's how confident I am. And the reason I have that confidence is uh if you look at any of the photos that the Seahawks put of a voluntary camp or what they're doing OTAs. There's always a picture of Devin Witherspoon with a huge smile on his face and he's participating and he's there and he's active. Now that's a a stark contrast, by the way, to Christian Gonzalez, who has not turned up for the New England Patriots. Uh, they share the same agent. So uh there is that's the that's the only reason it's not done now. is that you you've got an agent probably saying to both players, uh, we've got a great advantage here to play you off each other and to get the best deal for you both. It's probably a little bit awkward for the agent because one person is going to get paid marginally more than the other. And how do you work that one out? I that's for them to worry about, not me. Uh, but with a spoon it's he he wouldn't be there participating. Big smile, uh, if this wasn't gonna get done. There's gonna come a time when it's like, Hey Devon, do you want to earn whatever he's gonna earn this year? Or would you would you rather several more million uh for this season and guaranteed whatever he's gonna get for the long term and he's gonna say, Give me the give me the frickin' money. So he's gonna he's gonna get paid. I think he's just too valuable clearly on the field. I just think he's too valuable off the field. I mean he he represents ethos of everything that Mike McDonald is coaching and standing for. Everything. Not gonna let that guy and and John Schneider's not not gonna let that guy uh walk out of the building. All right, final thing for you. Training camp or we're gonna get to mini camp and then we get to training camp what it Rob Staten, you're you're focused in on what as we get close to mini camp, and then then that will evolve into training camp. I think just to s just hear anything that we can about how Brian Fleur is settling in as the offensive coordinator, I think that's the big question, Mark, going into the season is How can this uh this new coordinator who's never called plays before adapt? Uh, I think it's I I'm confident that it'll be okay because he's been around Carl Shanahan for such a long time that you would think and he's in look, they could have appointed internally, and that would have been so easy for the Seahawks to appoint internally and they chose not to. they chose to make an outside appointment. So I they clearly see something in this guy. I'm interested to see how that goes on. And I look everything feels good. They've got a very balanced team, a deep roster. Everything feels good. Stay healthy. Get out there. Let's get to week one. Let me get to Seattle. Let me go and have an old fashioned hotel that I always enjoy. And and let's get that banner raised. And let's go and give the the Patriots another spanking and let's get on with this thing. Like I I I'm ready for it now. Well, once the World Cup's finished, or once, or should I say, once England are out. I'm gonna be the mindset that September can't get here suited off. Okay, well enjoy it. Uh congratulations on the house and uh we'll we'll start picking this back up uh very soon as we're getting closer and closer uh to the start of the NFL season. Again, Rob Staten football on YouTube, check it out. Uh also seaoxxdraft blog.com. He just absolutely does hammer work and it's all the time, and he's got such an incredible passion for it. So go check it out if you haven't done so uh yet. Thanks, Rob. Appreciate it. Pas po yeah. Drink Georgetown Tavern Gear. Your new, locally brewed, domestic style larger. 4.2% alcohol. Cheap, good, local. As you see in the rundown, we got an interview with Seahawks rookie guard Bo Stevens on the show today. I had a chance to catch up with Bo Stevens yesterday after they were wrapping up one of their OTAs. We sat down, we talked about it's time. What it means to be an offensive lineman from the University of Iowa. He talks about his struggles that he's had with mental health and ADHD, and something that he's been very public about while at the University of Idaho and or I know I should say Iowa. And also what he likes to do once he steps away from football and kind of takes his mind off of it. Uh fun conversation. Seahawky Bo Stevens here on the Daily Puck Drop. Gentlemen, here he is, the pride of Missouri via Iowa. It's Bo Stevens, fifth round pick out of the University of Iowa. Uh for your Seattle Seahawks. She's joining us here on the Daily Puck Drop. Puck sports. Here's the thing that I got excited when I saw they were interested in drafting you. I just feel, Bo, that Iowa lineman. I would draft all of you. Just there's something feels good when you draft someone that plays offensive line from Iowa. Yeah. Um Most discipline off time, I feel like. College football. Um Been doing it for twenty six plus years. Uh head coach, Coach Ferris and Um he's an online guy at Hart. So like he misses being in a position room, but it on the field he's always over with us saying something. Specifically to our tackles. He's a he's a big tackle guy. the coach Farr's tackle circuit or they go through like sixty reps in ten minutes, it's insane. Um Yeah. No, there's it's just a different culture over there and The scheme just relies heavily on offensive line play. Uh And few years ago, whenever I was like early on in college, like We didn't have a great offensive line and you could really tell and that's really what really hurt us. We had an amazing defense, but uh the offensive line just Young and um inexperience and and it kinda hurt us. So um just the way uh Iowa football is, it's it's really dependent on our one. What what when you were coming out of high school, you're you're a fairly I mean four star recruit coming out of Missouri. Wha what drew you To the University of Iowa. Um that they didn't B S me about anything. You know? Um Been on a bunch of visits. uh all over and a lot of 'em were just talking about how nice their jerseys were. What new construction was going up, how cool the lock room is and all the different details about that. I didn I I didn't really care about that at all. Um I just wanted to know if it was gonna be good people, good coaches, they're gonna make me better. And I could just tell like the the way they recruit me was most different than anyone else. Um, I'm sure a lot of other guys would say this, but when they when they recruit you, they tell you, We don't need you. We we'd like to have you. We'll give you the opportunity, but it's gonna be the hardest place you go to. And and we can find somebody else. Um because Iowa football isn't changing for you. Uh that's why we haven't got a guy that's Uh a five star recruit. And forever that change the program, you know, that that's not how it works at Iowa. Uh You're gonna your head down and work and Um you're either gonna fit in or get out. And that's that's very much how it's been. So It it sounds like it fit just maybe kind of reading between the lines of maybe how you grew up, how you were raised, how you were coached at a young age. Of wh why what led you kinda that that fit at Iowa? Um, I would say honestly, it was what not what I was How I grew up, but more of how I wanted to lead my life. You know, like like how I wanted my life to become. Like uh like struggling with AD H and and not being diagnosed in high school, I was very inconsistent. And Um in the school on the field I was talented, obviously, but it it There was no light. fundamental base. for me, you know? And and it it's that's what it kinda seemed to me was that this place is gonna turn me into like almost a football sold, in a sense, like disciplined to the max. Um And the root like that's honestly what happened was I I found routines the the coaches and the support staff help me with these routines and it's something I live by every day. You know, it's something I'm probably never gonna change in my entire life, regardless if I'm playing football or not. Yeah, and you you've been honest and and up front, you you you've shared your story at at Iowa about dealing with ADHD and and mental health. I gotta imagine that was probably pretty difficult to go through, maybe at at that age, is just trying to, you know, kinda find your way through it and getting help. What did you learn about yourself through that process, Bo? And then and then what do you help to share with others that maybe that are watching or listening to this right now going through the same thing? No, it's something Coach Barnett. Told his the rest of the staff was like everyone when I was early on in my career I was very consistent, messing up and Um couldn't like just live up to the standard that uh Everyone else seemed to be able to do. Uh. He basically just pleaded with them that were like, Hey, well, once this guy figures it out. Watch out. You know. Um And then that's honestly what it was. It's like these g you might just need a little more time. You might just need a little more Uh structure here and there. Um, you just gotta figure out what works. And that that's the biggest thing is like when you're super inconsistent and you're dealing with things that make you motivated and unmotivated and Um We can't focus, you can focus, and you you just gotta figure out what works to keep that um the ball rolling, honestly. Um And and that's what happened was that once I figured that out, it it led into the ability to play better, the ability to have better grades, the ability to Be more social and not feel like After two hours of being in a facility, I can't talk to anybody the rest of the day because I'm just completely drained. That's all I had in the tank, you know? Um And that's honestly. It was super helpful. to go through that at that age. Because now I don't have to worry. Like I do have to worry about it, but it's not something that's just crushing you, you know? Um, and as you said it was difficult because whenever you're going into your second year and you're basically asked to start And you're going in the thick you're in the biggest part of it. Try to come out. um of the little hole that I was in. Um That's tough, you know? Like You you think, Oh, I gotta figure this out, but then I also have to play on Saturday. You know? Uh and I gotta play good. Um and we and we weren't playing good as an all offensive line. You know? Um there was good plays here and there, but as a as a whole over the season it wasn't our best season, for sure. Um, we're one of the worst offenses in college football. And so you kind of take that in and take that on yourself and you put it on yourself like maybe I'm the reason. You know? Uh. Once you kind of get that confidence of going through it, figuring things out. you kinda see the way at the end of the tunnel and that's when every you s you start feeling like let's go, you know? Um coach McDonald talked about it. It's like It's the the the change metric or whatever, whenever you feel like, Oh, I this is insane. Like when you first get the league. Oh, this is insane. Everything's quicker, faster. I don't understand what I'm doing. And then you kinda feel some like struggle and then you get to that other side of it where you kinda just embrace it. And then you can finally just feel like I can just go play. Yeah, I wonder I wonder when that slows down. Yeah. I don't know. I'm still gonna you're f you're gonna find out that you're still in swimming mode, right? Yeah, it's good. Hey, so what you were not only a a great football player at uh Missouri Uh at their high school in Missouri. Multi sport athlete wrestling and basketball. All right, I I gotta understand. What kind of hooper were you? You got a comp of somebody who'd you play like? Um Shaquille O'Neal if he couldn't dump. Or make three through he didn't already. Or he couldn't shoot. Just a bruiser is what you were setting screens and grabbing boards and grab boards. And even then if there was a guy that could jump like thirty five inches, I was screwed so. Yeah. Yeah. Never dunk? You could dunk. Uh not in game. That's definitely not in game. Like I maybe you could have done it, but I was also three hundred and twenty pounds. So I it was tough. You know. I was almost too big for my for my size at that point in time. So Yeah. And then wrestling, what what it you hear about guys talk about wrestling all the time. I mean it's actually You know, there's no colleges out here that have it, Bo, but it's huge in in high school in in Washington State. What what did wrestling What'd you learn from that sport, right? Real individual one on one sport. You just an another another guy going at it. And how did that help you in football? And just in The movement and just kind of Uh the the whole sport of wrestling I I gotta imagine it has some advantages to playing playing football. Yeah. Well, obviously leverage is the biggest thing. How translates offense line. Um But I would say there's another aspect of that one V one. You know, like the I the football you can kinda hide. If you're n if you're okay player, you can kinda hide on the field. You can kinda do your job and it's not gonna mess up the play. But you're still not a great player, like in wrestling. That's all on you. And and you gotta be the one to make the decisions and That's who that's how the the Yeah. What's the word? affected by. You know, it's yourself and yourself only. Um, I think it hel helps with just like quick decision making. For a part of it and Uh Also I was going into wrestling at three twenty and I had to drop down at two eighty five. And so just trying to have like the mental willpower to Not eat as much, like and and not feel like oh I'm gonna lose all of my mass. Like all of my actual like muscle doing this. I did get really sick 'cause I did it in a very unsmart way 'cause I was in high school and just wouldn't eat, but Yeah. Yeah, no, y it it was just more of like a will power power thing. Like so when you go to the third period and Ghast. And you're on bottom. You gotta get up. You know? It's just stuff like that where Um, it pushes you to limits that you didn't know that you had. Didn't know that You had a limit on. Uh And just in a different way. And especially I don't I only did it for a year, you know? And and I I feel like I learned a lot just from that year because I one had amazing coaches had all won like state championships for their school. Uh And they they were also like football coaches as well. And so that's why they got me into it, just to help me out. Um But it it it it was just a all around like new experience for me. Um, so whenever I can't just take the same steps I've always done, the same set I've always done in football, you gotta learn something completely new. It kinda opens your mind a little bit. Um You can move your body in a different way that you've never done before. All right, last thing for you for you, Bo. All right, Bo Stevens. Wha what do you do? You get away from football. You gotta have a release, a moment, something that takes your mind off the sport. I don't know if it's anything that now that you've landed in the Pacific Northwest that that you like getting outdoors, what is it? Well, Stevens he wants to relax, kick it up, not worry about football, you're doing one. Yeah, um I'm a very avid anime fan. Um, I know that's not everybody's thing. But uh Like I was I dabbled in it in middle school. Um And then like later in high school I kinda got into a little bit. But then once I got to college I was so busy I couldn't figure out a time to do it. But in my last couple of years of college, whenever school kind of settled down, my life kinda s felt like I had control of it. Um, it was definitely something I was a go to. Um The end of my day. I I was very thankful that Bryce George transferred over from Fair State the last year 'cause he was the one that got me into most of the stuff I'm uh into now. Uh And we were like camp. roommates as well. And so the entire time we're either playing our switch or we're watching anime together and it was it was awesome. But uh yeah, no I'm It's good. I Done got some thing with Crunchyroll recently, which is like the Netflix of anime, pretty much. Um they sent me a bunch of stuff, which is awesome. Um Especially it like it feels almost like weird that it's like, Oh I'm just getting to animate like for real now and I'm getting all the stuff people probably dreamed of having, you know? So it's the perk of being an NFL. So no, that that that's for sure. Like I I'm just a big nerd at heart. My mom works at a movie theater. Um, and she's and she's done that for like twenty five plus years. And my parents are both big movie people. Um And so like Star Wars and stuff like that, Lord of the Rings. Yeah. That's kind of the category. Favorite Favorite movie? Favorite movie. Um I really like reservoir dogs. I'm a big Tarantino fan. Okay. That's a great one. So yeah, like that's like the least nerdy part. of like stuff I watch, but I just was the best dialogue and best story I th I feel like. Um Yeah. It's great. Bo, I appreciate the time. Thanks for doing it. Welcome to Seattle. Thank you. Drink Georgetown Tavern Gear. Your new locally brewed domestic style lager. 4.2% alcohol. Cheap, good, local. If it's fun you desire it's fun you're gonna get at Flat Stick Pub. It doesn't matter what the occasion is, whether it's date night, guys' night, ladies' night, or large group event, Flat Stick Pub's got you covered. They have six great locations across the Pacific Northwest from Pineere Square to Kirkland, South Lake Union, Spokane, Bellingham, and Redmond. All locations offer the best pub experience in Washington. Two rules at Flatstick Pub, drink local and have fun. Pretty simple. So if you like to have fun, love local beer and great tasting food, make Flatstick Pub your next spot. Visit them at FlatstickPub.com. Hi, I'm Bo with All Aces Concrings. Garages are my favorite part of the house. I chose to partner with Pentec because they give me the proper tools and support to do my job right. My favorite part of doing the garages and any flake system is the transformation that happens in one day. Big thanks to Bo Stevens. They're the rookie offensive lineman for the Seattle Seahawks, joining the Daily Puck Drop here on a Wednesday. Also big thanks to Rob Staten to uh filling in on the start of the podcast in place there of the great Jim Moore. Who will be back. Well on Friday's show with our PME after dark show with Myself, Moore, and Chris Egan. We've yet to get to the Mariners. We will have inside pitch with Ryan Divish. If you're listening to Daily Puck Drop, he will uh come on later this afternoon. So be on the lookout for the drop of uh inside pitch for Puck's Posse members. Good time to sign up. Baseball season, let's go. Five dollars a month. You can sign up for a year there as well. Uh, but we will be recording that uh once the Mariners game is over. And they may never lose, folks. Another win last night. Eight game winning streak. to three, lots of heroes. Now four games over five hundred thirty three and twenty nine. Two and a half games up on the Rangers. Fourth best record right now in the American League. Second best though run differential. in the American league. When you do take a step back and look at like how good a team is. Generally, you can look at the run differential and just see. Well, how good are they? Because sometimes you have this great record. The Rays are kind of The poster child of this right now, 'cause they don't I mean, they have a it's decent run differential, but it's not great. They're winning a lot of close games. The teams that like the Yankees, they're the runaway leader right now in that in that stat. It just illustrates how dominant a team can be. Dodger, same case. Uh the Marin is second best with it right now. And they're starting to win more and more close close games. And that all clearly is all due to the terrific managing skills of Dan Wilson. Insert the sarcasm for for those who subscribe to the he's the worst manager of all time and he can't win close you know, close games and one run games. But Uh they're playing great. Everything is clicking right now at the exact time for them. Think it was a matter of time before this offense got it going collectively and they starting they're all starting to do that right now. I mean they They are never gonna change the stripes of what they are offensively, and what they are offensively is a team that hits home runs. We saw it. Yeah, you saw it again last night. You saw Julio, you saw uh Patrick Wisdom, you saw Johnny Pareto. We're gonna get to Pareta in just a quick second. Is You know, they they are gonna be reliant on the two run and three run home runs. Can you rely on it too much at times? Are the the little things could they still be a team that hits it hits doubles, extra base hits, steal bases. Manufacturer runs more. Yeah, they can, but that this is who they are. This is the game that's being played nowadays. And they played as good as anyone to get guys on and then hit that. You know, the two and three run home run. To Johnny Pareta, I I mean this has been A hell of a story. Guy that they signed off uh from the twins. They purchased the from the twins back in January. We had a good discussion with Bill Kruger about this. It's something that we're gonna talk to Divis to today uh today on inside pitch. Yeah. talking to Divish this morning reminded me, he's like, Hey man, if you go back and listen to one of our spring training shows I told you that he's the best catcher defensively, maybe in spring training. He has delivered behind the plate. I think pitchers like throwing to him. Offensively what he's doing so far. And again It's not the biggest sample size. It's only forty two plate appearances. Got an OPS of seven fifty four and he's an average of two sixty three. Again, he's he's got about him. I love the way he reacted after the final out yesterday on the terrific sliding grab uh by Colt Emerson. I was hoping he would slide a little bit better. Boy, did it not look like he got His right leg kind of caught awkwardly. It was right or left, but. And I'm like, oh God, please be okay. Please be fine. He had a great reaction after that, the way he was kind of firing up and and yelling at him and pointing at him. He's got a very good bat. He's got a very good swing. And I just think it will it's gonna lead to uh discussion. What are you gonna do? Could you carry three catchers and use Garve as your right handed bat off the bench in D F a uh Rob Ref Snyder? There was a uh and I'm gonna give th this person full credit on social media because no one ever does it and I Uh I saw it and I said, You know what? That's a fantastic idea. I was like, that's a really good idea. And I mean I'm gonna find it and I I won't be able to find it. I guarantee it. Uh Well anyways, there was a guy on Twitter. literally had a great idea of to doing that. I'm stealing and I'm parroting his idea. Mariner something. So if you're out there, Marin or something, if you're out there, your idea who said, Hey. You should just do that. You could do that in the in the For the time being, but then you gotta make a decision with Donovan, because then Donovan's gonna come back and you then at that point you can't do you can't pull that off. So when Donovan comes back. Whenever that is. Um, you know, they what they've done is they've added to the length of their lineup. They've added to the length of their bench. But Johnny Parade has earned a spot to stay on the team, and it Will it be a difficult decision for them? Maybe, but probably difficult for Cal. I mean, it was Cal that recommended and and told the Mariners go out and get Mitch Garver that they needed to have Garver there, and then they signed him and he and he made the team. I can't even remember who the the catcher was that they paid the million bucks. They don't blank it on his name. Somebody in the chat will have it, but I think Pareta gives them just a a better option. Than Mitch Garver. He does. And if you want to do it in the time being of of keeping Garver and getting rid of Ref Steiner, sure I I could be probably on board on that. I mean if you if you told me what would be a better pitch hit situation late, who would you want more, Garve or Rev Sneider, I probably would pick Mitch Garver. Most likely. I think just hats off to Johnny Paretum. He has sees an opportunity. It opened the door with obviously the injury to Cal. Looks like Cal is getting closer and closer to coming back. We chat about it on Monday with Jim. Jim's like, When do you think he's gonna come back? And he said mid-June. I said, Oh, that doesn't seem like mid-June, but shoot, I don't I don't know. Maybe Jim's right. I have Maybe it is mid-June. He's out there running around. He's gonna do a rehab start, so maybe he comes back sooner than than maybe I was anticipating. I I thought maybe at the end of the month he'd be back. But he's out there doing some light jogging with uh with trainers with the team. So maybe he's getting closer and closer of of coming back from the oblique injury and then going on a rehab start. And I don't know how many how many games is going to be on that rehab start. We'll ask Divish on inside pitch coming up uh later today. Julio, this thirteenth home run, he continues to be toward can zone with three more hits. I a he has just had a fabulous season. And when it's all said and done uh said and done for Can Zone at the end of the year in twenty twenty six, he's gonna put together his best season as a professional. He is well on his way to doing it. And again for a guy that is Gets Not limited at bats, but you know, you got to pick and choose when you're playing him and and Cal Raleigh to stay focused and stay ready. He has been terrific. Uh, for this team, but I've been on the team. There's six through nine hitters. Incredible. Oh, they're on Tuesday. Eight of the teams, eleven hits, five Ribbies. Uh in a You still look at this team and it's still incomplete right now because of Cal being out and uh Brendan Donovan. being out. But they're getting closer and closer uh to getting at full strength. And then this really will be and we've we've We have chatted about this a lot this week. They are just in the heart of a schedule that allows them to put a lot of lot of breathing room between them And the rest of their foes in the American League West. Where they can really kinda cement it and be kind of done with them. Oh, this stretch of it concludes with the Mets. Here on Wednesday and then it You go on, you've got the likes of Detroit. Baltimore two times. Washington is, you know, hovering around five hundred, so This is not murderers row with what they're about to face. So they've got a they've got a nice schedule set up in front of them to take real advantage of this while Donovan and Cal Rawley are out. All right, coming up next as we uh wrap up the show we do on this day. And also, hey, what the puck. On this day, of course, brought to you by uh the Puck Sports official social meetup, Hive Social. Welcome to Hive Social, the social network that brings your real world proximity to life. Tired of endless scrolling and fake connections, privacy is built into the heart of Hive with easy to set up safety fences and visibility controls. Whether you're here to hang out, network, Or meet someone new, create events, share photos and videos, and keep the conversation going with built-in chats for every connection and every moment. Download now and see what's happening around you. I guess. That's the way I like it. That makes me rumble. Don't we rumble? Rump like a butterfly. Dang like a bee. Rumble, young man. Rumble. That's what we're gonna do, we're gonna rumble. Listen out. Very even place. Holly a sneaky right hand. Another stinky right hand. This time he worked over the shoulder. Talked about people who've been in jail five years? Well we are talking by the honorable Elijah Mohammed that black people actually been in jail for four hundred years. We've been here in America. The time comes I'll just have to go. Boys in Vietnam are dying for what they believe. I can't get on them for dying for what they believe, so I'll just have to and they dying to free uh foreign people 10,000 miles away. So I'll just have to suffer, sold it to so-called Negroes, uh could be free. So they could have idol and the image they can look up to that didn't sell them out. Do you think you can do more for your people by going to jail? Oh yes, sir. They thought they would weaken me and put fear in me by threatening me to go to jail and taking my iron and power. They won't let me work in America. The government won't let me leave America where I can work. And I'm getting stronger and it shakes up a lot of people to see them strong. It also makes other so called Negroes strong who uh facing the same problems and in this way I think I can do for more for my people. They've never had a big black man that just stood up and identified with the struggle of his people a thousand percent. Yes sir the greatest boxer to ever live. I'm the first one that they had to take a title from in the history of all the red, white and blue American titles. I'm the first one that they tried to make the world believe that wasn't the champion and um uh never, um that never has been beaten. On this day, June third, uh, the great Muhammad Ali passed away on this day in two thousand and sixteen. Ali was seventy-four at the time of his death. He was a three time world heavyweight champion. He was much bigger. than just a heavyweight champion. He was a global civil rights icon. He stood up for what he believed in. He inspired An entire culture. People and a nation. In nineteen sixty seven, you you have to just To understand. Whether you've Read about it. Seen documentaries about it. to people that were alive then of what he did. And ask yourself if a today's modern athlete would do the same thing. I don't know. My gut would say they would not. Nineteen sixty seven, the height of his career. He's the heavyweight champion. in the prime of his career, by the way. He refused induction, as many of you know, in the United States Armed Forces. Now he didn't make up an injury. He didn't fake an injury. Didn't have a doctor. Didn't come from a rich family that got him out of it. He didn't go to Canada, he didn't go to Mexico. He simply stood on the steps of the US government said I'm not gonna go. And this is why I'm not gonna go. He was immediate whether you agreed with his stance or not. I think collectively you could step back and applaud of someone's belief in what they are thinking at that time to not do something. He was immediately stripped of his titles. And all a jury, an all white jury nineteen sixty seven on June seventh or June twentieth? I found him guilty. The judge handed down the most extreme maximum penalty at that time was a $10,000 fine. It was also five years in federal prison. He had the backing, though, of the nation of Islam and his legal team, so he was free on bail. As his legal team fought the case. For three years. Three years he was out of professional boxing in his prime. From age twenty five. 28, exiled from boxing, exiled from making a living. Nineteen seventy one finally the Supreme Court unanimously overturned. His conviction and he returned to fighting. March eighth, nineteen seventy one. He had had a fight before that. It was one of the most anticipated fights. In the history of boxing, it was titled The Fight of the Century, Madison Square Garden, he's taking on Joe Frasier. And Frazier handed all Lee. His first professional loss in a fifteen round unanimous Decision. Three years later, 1974, all he would avenge his loss to Frazier. In the second of three fights. Defeating him in 12 rounds. Non-title match, though. Frasier had lost. Title. to George Form. And less than a year later, in fact I think it was around nine months later. Oli gets on a plane and heads to Africa. The Rumble in the Jungle in Zaire to take on George Foreman, who was a larger than life figure. who had knocked out and defeated Joe Frazier and no one, no one. Gave Muhammad Ali a chance. In that fight against Big Uh George Foreman. What he do? Well that was the rope a dope. He let George Foreman tire himself out, throw punches after punches after punches. He withstood an absolute beating. By the way, it's what inspired Rocky. People don't know that. The movie written. by Sylvester Sallone. He wrote it about that fight. And He let him tire himself out and find the eighth inning. He knocks him out, recaptures the world heavyweight title. Uh Muhammad Ali one of the not just greatest sports figures that this country that this world has ever had one of the just greatest most prominent figures. uh this country has ever had. Passing away June third, nineteen, or excuse me, two thousand sixteen, at the age of seventy four. All this happening on this day again brought to you by Hive Social, the official Puck Sports Social meetup app. All right, before we get to Hey What the Buck, real quick. As we always tell you on the uh Pucks Bossy membership, we give you three bonus shows. A week. Wednesdays it's inside pitch with Ryan Divish. 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Andy Rooney would say things that I'd be like, What are you kidding me? But I watched it and I was always impressed with his And to be thoughtful. And yes, I may not agree with them, but I listen to it all the time, but the programming and the investigative reporting and the time and the effort that went in to put on that show, it was must see for me as a kid growing up that has stayed with me all the way into adulthood until Now. And what makes what has happened at sixty minutes and CBS so Disheartening. Is that it's it should bother people on all sides. It's the dismantling Of a public service, it's dismantling of journalism at its core, that is there designed to tell the truth and to protect. Us the people. And what's more concerning about it is to someone that is a proud graduate and a lum of Washington State and one of the Most proud things that I have is I look at a degree. That's setting. Right beh well, I guess behind you, in front of me. It's it says it's the I have a communications degree Merle. School of communication. Edward Ard Murrow started that. And to be able to get a degree from a school from a person that has this larger than life figure like Moreau. To go to school there. To walk in the same holes as he did. I don't know, even sit in the same classroom, what have you. I think anyone that went through that school and graduated from that program looks to him and what he accomplished and what he did during the war and what he created at CBS. And you look at what's happened to that. whole network and what's happened to six it's It's sad. It should be sad for everyone. I don't care what you stand on. It should be sad for everyone. And it's not only that, it's the dismantling of CBS news. On radio, that's gone. All of it. Just Yesterday and currently it is a sad, sad day. for television news. And what was just Absolute pillar. For investigative journalism. And what we all took in every Sunday. 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