Mike Leach Legacy and Impact

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What is the organization's philosophy? When they are up in the bottom of the 10th inning and it's a tide ball game. I don't understand their logic of not butting the guy over. Maybe I'm just too old school. It worked out yesterday. It worked out because the pitcher for the Mets had a brain fart and he kept looking back or stepping off to get a Rosarina at second. So then Randy knows he can't do it again and it's a full count, so he's gonna steal third base. I mean it's more about the Mets picture just not understanding what to do and Randy being heads up and going. But I mean they win that game because Randy's not just gonna score from second on that. And I I I just want to know. I wanna know if Patrick Wisdom can't put down a bump, then why is Patrick Wisdom here? Someone's got to be able to just put down a button to get the runner from second to third. Yes, maybe you don't like that old school way of baseball, but there's still a place for it. It's just still a pla and they're gonna need that in the postseason. You had Cole Young coming up anyways. You just needed him at third, so a base hit or Really what you were hoping for was a sack fly gets them home. I just I want to know why Dan Wilson or this team just does not want to have anyone but other than Cole Young. I think Cole Young's the only guy that he ever trusts uh to do. But anyways, that's uh despite uh that's uh it has nothing to do with really they won the game, so whatever. Uh, but again, that that's kind of stuff we'll kinda catch up with them, I think, eventually. Uh Hancock brilliant again, six innings, two earn run, seven strikeouts. Uh lowers the Z R Ray now to two point eight zero. Uh bullpen was great for air brash, Munio, Spire, rested four innings, five strikeouts, zero walks. They were just dominant. And Colt Emerson. Maybe we haven't talked enough about Cole Emerson's start. Uh to his professional career, but another home run, his third home run yesterday. The guy is is slugging damn near six hundred. this twenty year old and his OPS is at nine hundred. The one thing that was holding him back from Triple A of coming up here was his offense. And he has been sensational. Uh to start. Uh, we'll wait and see what comes out later. here on Tuesday about what the situation with uh Josh Naylor is the back spasms, but it doesn't appear to be all that serious. Some NFL notes before we get to John Canzano, we'll talk all things college football and just sports in general. Derek Hall, three year deal, forty two million dollars there for the Seahawks. Twenty uh one million guaranteed. Still waiting on Devin Witherspoon. This is a great signing. Hall's instrumental along with his Seahawks defense has been great. They've got camp space locking up their their defensive players. They'll put their bullseye Now on Witherspoon to get him done. Rams off season. We talked about a little bit on Monday show. Active this year, what they've done. The Miles Garrett trade, the Trent McDuffie trade. The signing of Jalen Watson. I mean, that team, thing I like about the Rams is they they do go all in. And they are trying to win a championship. Stafford comes back, right? Gets the new deal. So they are putting all their eggs in this basket to go out and try and win it. They're aggressive. It's a good off season for them. I don't think anybody could shy away. Should they be the favor of the NFC? Yeah, they should be the favor of the NFC. done more and added more this offseason than Seattle. Doesn't mean they're gonna Beat Seattle again? No, but Not like Seattle was head and shoulders better than them a year ago. The Rams were were right there. So we'll have about more on that one. Rob Staten, by the way, is gonna join us. on Wednesday's show to talk about the uh flurry of moves there by the Rams and just the Seahawks in general. 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He joins us every single week, brought to you by Flat Stick Pub. What kind of little league high school college bunter was John Canzano? Uh I was a good bunner. My dad, you know, my dad was a professional baseball player. We worked on the little things. It's always little things that win you those games. Ask U C L A. Saint Mary's uh you know, played the better baseball. uh against the best team in the country. Um you can get down a butt. Uh you can uh you can do those little things. You're a smart player. Look at the Mariners though. Lightning in a bottle. I'm just when you left them for dead, Puck. What do they do? I didn't leave them for dead. I never left them for dead. What do they do? Leave them for dead. I haven't changed my underwear in a week. So that's weird. Are you super special? Yeah, a little bit. Little bit. Uh yeah, I think anybody who's been around the game of baseball, doesn't it lend to superstition like no other sport? Because I think so. I'm watching the regional teams at the Eugene and Regional and I was watching You know, or Washington State's pitcher on Saturday night was throwing great early against Oregon. And as he came off the mound, he stepped on the foul line as he was going to the dugout. And I was like, ooh, he stepped on the foul line. Don't do that. Like you're throwing well. What do we do? Do we do that? How was it? I was as locked in as as I could be. I I'm not one was watching college baseball all year long, but I was so happy and proud of as an alum to see them in and Friday, they all were gay. Even even Saturday's game was great. Uh, but Friday's game was just electric. Nick Lewis was sensational uh defeating Oregon State, and then Oregon State gets him back there on on Sunday night. But but overall, Oreg wins the regional, they move on, they knock off Oregon State. W what was the vibe like uh certainly the the weatherplayer factor in on Friday, but But overall, how what was your takeaway from it? Well th I thought you had three really good teams in that regional. I don't think Yale was up to the task, but the other three teams were really good and they all pitched well. There were only four home runs hit in that regional. It was the fewest of any of the eighteen regionals. Um, so for all the talk about, oh, PK Park's a hitter's park, look at the home runs, look at the guys on Oregon's bench, how big they are, they're all a bunch of weightlifters, only four home runs, I thought. Pitching was the name of the game. Oregon had the best pitching throughout the weekend. Washington State, I thought the starter on Friday was fantastic. You mentioned Lewis. I even think on Saturday, They came back and they had a really good five, six innings out of the starting pitcher. It just sort of tapered off after that and Um, uh you know, same for for Oregon State, you know, that I thought their starting pitching was fine. I think just You know, the the crowd was great. PK Park doesn't get a lot of love for the crowd but they gave student tickets free and they put the students right behind the dugouts. And so it was packed. And so It ended up being a little bit of a uh a home field advantage, especially in that Oregon State game on Sunday in the seventh inning. You had the picture, I thought got the crowd got in his head a little bit. Yeah. You should have tracked down the the kid that had his shirt off that looked like he had been getting after for about fifteen hours on Saturday. Uh behind behind home plate, the Oregon Duck fan. That guy was you want to talk about lubed up. That guy was lubed up hard, man. He had been yeah that was an early AM start for that guy. Here's the other thing. Like when I arrived there, I'm used to going to Odson Stadium for football games and you park in the Odson Stadium parking lot. to go to the baseball game 'cause the baseball field's right there next to the parking lot. Uh you know, they don't charge you for parking. Uh, it's easy to park and then get in and out of there. You know, you're used to the football crow when you're parking there. So it's really nice to kind of drive up and I thought, gosh, if you lived in that area. Why wouldn't you go to college baseball games? And, you know, I thought for for Washington State, you got Nathan Shote, the coach there, big breakthrough year for him. You know, he two years ago he told me his he was selling his guys on this vision of like, just stick with me. I don't know who we're playing, I don't know what conference we're in, but just stick with me. Five of those guys were in the dugout with him during the regional. Like they just stayed with him. And I I think that says a lot about his program and What he's building there. I think he can use this for a little trajectory into the new pac twelve. I think Oregon State is missing something right now. They don't have The two, three, four hitters that they historically have had. Their lineup I thought It felt to me and you've been at baseball games, everybody who's watching has been at baseball games where You run into a team that's just not a very good offensive team and it feels like the six, seven, and eight hitters are always at the plate. Like there's nobody you're scared of if you're the opposing team. I had that feel for this Oregon State team. They play excellent defense, they can pitch it. They just couldn't manufacture runs and put enough pressure on that pitching staff on the on the other side. So Uh and then Oregon Oregon goes off to the Austin regional. Are they good enough to win? Sure. Would I bet on them? I think they're about a forty percent chance, thirty five, forty percent chance to beat Texas in Austin. Um Oregon's built You know, they got the pitchers. They got a couple of guys who can who can hit bombs. They're just not as consistent. And I worry a little bit against a really good Texas pitching staff. that they will struggle at the plate. So we'll keep an eye on that. But I think if Oregon's pitching staff can make this, you know, look at what Oregon's pitching staff gave up. What did they give up? Two, one, and zero runs. Like in the games. The kid uh the kid last thing, the kid that hit the three run home run Saturday might be the largest individual. I've ever seen. Six four two sixty. Six four two sixty. How does he not play football? I thought about that. I thought Dan Lanning should just back a van up. to the stadium and have a bunch of guys grab him and zip tie him and throw him into the van and take him over to the football stadium like He he's a big kid. He um He uh he struggles a little bit with the breaking ball. I thought Oregon State made him look bad in a few at bats that you know, because they really could pitch it. But You know, he came to the plate in the ninth inning, top of the ninth of that game, and there was two runners on, I turned to the writer next to me and I said he's gonna hit a three run bomb and the next pitch he hit it over the center field fence. I mean, you throw him a fastball, he knows what to do with it. I just put 'em at tight end or D end. Just be like go go ch chase the quarterback or go catch the ball. All right. Speaking of college football, buy Bartisan Bill came out a few days ago. Ted Cruz in Texas. Maria Cantwells from from our state. Um it's called the Protect College Sports Act. It would allow NCAA to limit transfers, eligibility. It would enforce a spending cap. It would give conferences the ability to pool their T V rights. Coaches could not leave their teams before the season ends. And it would prevent a super league directed at the Big Ten and the SEC. Does it have any teeth? It has some teeth. There's a lot in there. I I sifted through it's a hundred and eleven pages. I sifted through that. I encourage anybody who wants to really get into it to go through the hundred and eleven pages of that. But it here's the thing that's interesting. That's what they pay you to do it. I know. Teresa Gold, the Pac twelve commissioner, is going to testify in Washington, D C tomorrow. She's gonna, I think, go to bat for this thing and say, Hey, look, this we need this legislation. W there are some really good things in this bill. Like one of them says You know, you can only transfer once uh in your in your college career. Uh now you know, the other you talked about coaches leaving early. Uh it also you know, wants to put a cap on what you can pay an NIL. Um, there's some good things here that would level the playing field. The pooling of the media rights revenue It's tricky because It it requires there to be consensus on that front. Like the Big Ten and the SEC have to be on board with that. And I can't imagine a scenario where the Big Ten and the SEC would go, Okay, let's share revenue with the Pac twelve. We'll figure out that you know what This uh this level playing field. But But you know, I'm it's being pushed by not just these senators, but there's about sixty trustees at schools that are not in the big ten in the SEC. who are pushing these senators to introduce this bill and move it along. I find that very interesting. This is very much an anti Big Ten SEC movement. And it's the rest of college athletics. These are Trustees in the Big 12. These are trustees in the ACC. This is the Pac 12 commissioner. Um, you know, this this is a group of people that are saying, hey. Let's think about the greater good. And I think that message is very important and very healthy for the ecosystem. Greg Secke, the SEC commissioner, is not gonna like this bill. Um, Tony Petit of the Big Ten's not gonna like this bill. And I think for that reason, everyone else should like this bill. Okay, so how how would you make it that they would like it? What would what would there be what tweaks would there be to Get them on board or will they just simply never be on board because they wanna break away and do their own thing? I think you got to play their game. Their game is a leverage game. They it's you know, everybody's watched a billionaire operate, you know, in Seattle or Portland or anywhere else knows it's a leverage game. The Big Ten and the SEC have all the leverage. They're You know, they this is a proxy war with ESPN and Fox. We've talked about this like, you know, last week, two weeks ago. that it's Fox and E S PN pushing for the playoff expansion. It's not really the Big Ten and the SEC. Um, you know, the more I unpack the downfall of the Pac twelve, I keep looking over at Fox and going, How much did they orchestrate that to get what they wanted ultimately in the Big Ten? Like how much of a chess game was this that the Pac 12 just got caught up in? So I think you have to play their game. And I and I've said this from the beginning, like if you're the one of the group of six Conferences. Or you're the Big Twelve in today's world and ACC in today's world. You are so far behind the Big Ten and the SEC that there is a strength in numbers there that includes not just The majority of Division One schools, you have a majority. But you also have more geography nationally, which means what? You have more lawmakers, which means you have more senators and more, you know, you have more people in Washington, DC right now that would maybe be empathetic or sympathetic to your cause. And so I do think it's the time to just kinda pile drive some legislation and say, Hey, wait a minute. Is what's happening here, f first of all, is it legal? Is there an antitrust issue? Secondarily. Where do you need to draw the line? Because the SEC has talked about, oh, they would leave the NCAA and go do their own thing. I actually Don't think they would. I think it's a big bluff. And I think the rest of college athletics is going, Hey, this is not sustainable. Even the big ten or the big twelve and the ACC are looking over going, this is not sustainable. We're losing view of these other two conferences as the revenue piles up. guess that the question I would have to to both of them of the Big Ten of the SEC would be, don't you want I mean, they can't like the number of transfers. They can't like the the spending spree that's going on or these coaches. I mean it's It was the old miss that got caught in this whole mess. I mean, really with with Uh, Lane Kiffin bailing on his team before the season was over. Team was in the college football playoff. I I I just seem there's so much more to like there than to d dislike if I was the Big Ten or the SEC. Yeah, they the I think the parts that they're uncomfortable with are the parts that sort of start to tr to to level the playing field again. You know, you start talking about pooling revenue, negotiating together. Could The big twelve, the ACC, all the group of six schools, could they band together and go to the T V partners and say, Hey, we want to present a uniform TV media package. Uh, would that package be more valuable if you could get the Big Ten and the SEC involved? Yes. Uh, but can you guarantee them distributions? But hey, look, the Big Ten and the SEC have uh they're dominating in this cycle. And the Big Ten in particular is dominating. And so yeah, they don't want to change anything, really. Like, yeah, they wanna they wanna put a cap on the spending and but they still want the inherent uh advantages that they have. Is it is it the is it the conferences or just listening to you talk, is it more about ESP and then Fox? No, I think I think it ultimately comes back to ESPN and Fox, but I blame conference commissioners who have ceded power to those TV networks. Yeah. And I blame the university presidents for giving the conference commissioners that power. Like it all comes back to these colleges. These are franchises. that were supposed to be higning uh you know education uh educational universities, but instead they are functioning as uh big business and of course pro sports franchises. But Um I think I do blame Fox and ASPN. This playoff thing is crazy because You know. The SEC wants to keep it right where it is, right? Like let's keep it a sixteen or lower. Now if it goes above fourteen teams The T V deal says that ESPN that it goes above fourteen teams as a playoff Then then it those other games you get to go out to bid, which means Fox can grab some. That's why Fox wants twenty four teams. You know, that's why the Big Ten, not Fox, Big Ten wants twenty four teams because all of a sudden now Uh Fox can grab ten eight or ten of those games. That's what it's about. Right now ESPN has monopoly on the playoffs. And then the SCC doesn't want it because they're in bed with the SPN. Yes. Hundred percent. So really the G networks are running this whole this whole thing and they just These presidents of these universities, which you're right, it's it's no longer it's turned from higher learning to a profit. I mean that's what these are. They are they are actual companies now. They're not universities anymore. And and let's go back to when the Pac twelve splintered. Okay. I can remember this conversation like it was yesterday that I had with one of the four corners athletic directors. You know, he really wanted he said the four corner schools want to stay together and they want to stay in the Pac twelve. This was back in when Kleavkov was Jimmy Jacking around with the media deal. And so You know, he said to me, There are pressures out there. that are that are that are influencing this decision. And I said, what pressures? And he said one company in particular. And I said, Who? And he said Fox. Think about this. ESPN gave Colorado a two and a half million dollar incentive to leave the Pac 12. It was the first domino that fell. to leave the Pac 12 and go to the Big 12. First domino falls. Remember in the 11th hour, Apple was going to come in. It was gonna be Apple TV, it was gonna be a streaming deal. It probably would have went been just fine for the Pac twelve. The bottom line would have been just fine. There was some big upside there for schools like Oregon and Washington, but what happened? In the eleventh hour. Fox and the Big Ten came up with the money for Oregon and Washington that splintered it. So what happened? Fox took Oregon and Washington to the Big Ten. ESPN took the four corner school to the Big 12. They parted it out. Why? It wasn't just about those brands Puck. They didn't want in the collegiate sports, live sports programming space. They did not want that streaming platform in that space. John Oran, the great sports media reporter, has done some really good reporting. He said that you know there was a concerted effort By the Big Ten, the SEC, Fox and ESPN to keep other streamers out of that space. I keep going back to that conversation and going, This may not have just been about brands. That may have been a preemptive move just to say, hey, we don't want app Apple in this space. If Apple gets into this space, Apple's got, you know, more money than uh you know ESPN and Fox. Apple could could own the whole thing. Last thing for ya, some great news coming out this week. They made the the rule change last year for the College Football Hall of Fame. It was for coaches they had to have a six hundred winning percentage. That was the threshold. And it left uh Mike Leach, the late Mike Leach on the outside. He had five ninety six. Now there's no argument anyone can make an argument that he shouldn't be in the College Foot Hall of Fame. I mean, he has changed football at all levels. NFL, college, high school, youth. His fingerprints are all over him. Uh, so it's about time He's on the ballot. He'll get in. What do you think he would say about it? getting in the college football hall of fame. What do you think that speech would be like? I think he down JP'd be honored, because I think uh he was always an outlier and he was always a guy who, you know, he valued other people who were outliers. You know, he he he would have loved that you were doing this, Puck. He told me when I went rogue, I went, I left the paper, he said, this is gonna be great. He was texting me, encouraging me. He just I think he appreciated outside the box. So I think being included in that room would have been cool, but I think he might have publicly said, Hey, you know, I wouldn't have wanted to be a member of any club that would have me. Like so, you know, he would have had a funny quip like that. He would have told good stories. Think about his induction speech. It would have been epic. I I just think he would have I think though down deep, I think it would have meant a lot to him to be validated. I know that there were a few times where he was at Washington State, Mississippi State. Look at the places he coached, Texas Tech. Yeah. Yeah, would he have loved to be at USC? I would have been fascinated to see what Mike Leach could have done if he would have been given the keys to a Maserati, but it just wasn't who he was as a coach. So Uh I think the validation would have been important to him. It's gonna be it's gonna be great to it's gonna be great to watch and and to him get in. So all right, thank you so much, JohnCanzano.com. Go subscribe uh to it. It's wonderful. Also check out the YouTube page, Baldface Truth, uh, in addition to that. on YouTube. You can check out all podcast platforms, Apple and Spotify. Thank you, John. We appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Thanks, buddy. 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That I know of, but I wouldn't be surprised. You know who's the most superstitious player on that team? Oh, jeez. Um Boy, I don't that's a good question. That's why I get paid a lot of money. Apparently so. Um I Uh I'm awful. If I'm awful. If I have something like this I won't No, yeah. I can't can't stop. I do little things like I I I keep using the same pen to score the game. I do that. And if they lose I switch it up. But I use the same same pen. I don't know. You got you're on a seven game seven pink right now. Yeah. That ink better better hold out a few more games. Yeah. You know, I need to find that out. I'm not sure if like who is most superstitious. That's a good one. Thank you. That'll be a next segment on Mariners Pre Game. Well I think it's great. What that is a great Mariners pre game. Absolutely. Question to all of them. Who's the most superstitious player on the team. Yep, we talked about uh their favorite candy in honor of Julio, you know, trading nerds for autographs with fans. We asked the guys the favorite candy would be. So now we can say, Hey, what's your what's your superstition? You guys keep rolling. I wanna know how many gloves Julio goes through in a season. Oh man. And I don't understand like Yeah, ha you always have to break these things in, but how are they I don't get it. Like he's got a new one almost every game. Seems like it, doesn't it? Different color too. Different color, everything. Breaks it in. Maybe he breaks it in during the game, then gets rid of it. I don't know. I don't know what he's just it's it's a m him and then nailer's and nailer's shoes, but Oh now did you see the report That we did on Nailers Shoes in Kansas City. I d I missed it. Because Jeremy Jeremy Guthrie Former Royals pitcher. Yeah. Uh, Orioles for a few years. Northwest guy. Um he it's his company. Does the custom cleats. Custom Please dot com. So it's he bought it. He started it. Um started wearing those cleats like in two thousand nine when he played with the Orioles. Liked them so much he bought some of the company and then they said, Do you want to buy the whole thing? He said, Sure. So Naylor and these guys, you know, just s ship shoes to them. They've got a factory in Arizona and New York. It just repurposes the shoes and puts cleats on. They do Oh so they're like real soccer. Yeah, you send them your Air Jordans, they take the sole off, they put on cleats. It's hundred and ninety bucks. So I mean yeah. Yeah. So not bad and it's like it it's like a weak turnaround, I think you said. So it's interesting, and he said that that Naylor's been with him just last year and this year, so he's not like his highest volume guy because he's only been two years, but he's said he's the highest volume per order. Yeah, he's got new he's got new kicks on every game. He got a text and he said Nailer's like, Hey, I ordered a bunch of shoes on ebay and shipping it to you and it was like forty five. Jesus. But he's great. You know, and you've seen him like give give him away to the fans and just kinda share with them. It's just He's really cool and very generous with the shoes and and Jeremy a f a fellow You know, sneak your head. appreciates kinda Josh's tastes and stuff. So yeah. It was it was cool to learn kinda came to be the custom fleets. Let's uh stick with Naylor. Should people be concerned at all about being removed from the game on on Monday with backs back? Yeah, you home or then you leave. Uh I would imagine precautionary. Uh you know, he was Using the gun on his on his slower right side of his back. You know, we had that on after Dan said that he had back spasms. I I would just imagine that's just a a day to day thing. You know. Maybe they arrest him today. I don't know how it feels. It probably just how it feels and and He'll be ready to go. Yeah. Well, they were just they've been brilliant in this in this winning streak. I think everyone was waiting for them to get to this point and it and it took them a while, but And I think we've said this repeatedly and everywhere. This is the team I think a a lot of people envision to start the seas. He's playing right now. And remember they've Don't have Donovan or Cal. So Pitching side, the bullpen got healthy and we saw how good they are. The offense is just on fire right now. And they're still, like I said, missing those two bats. So Once those guys get back and we'll see this full team, but what really impressed me, Puck, and I was thinking about this. Yeah. The third of the way through the season, fifty four games, they were Four under five hundred. And not playing well. You're like this isn't going well. Is there a team now that I think 'Cause of last year, because of their expectations of themselves. Um, like nothing changed in the preparation for them. They're just getting better results now, like they like to talk about. I think that they're a team that expects to win, that doesn't worry about You know, injuries and early season and losses and this. Yeah, we're four under five hundred, big deal. It reminds me of the Astros. You know, I talked to the Astros early this year. Remember Taylor Tremel, our old buddy? the Astros and uh some some of the other players that were walking by. This is back in May when and we're down in Houston and they were they were hurt. I mean they were last place. And I said, this might be the year you guys maybe don't even get five hundred. And TL was like, No, we're fine. I mean you're fine. You have the worst record in the league. The guys are like, Wait till we get guys back, we're gonna be just fine. I mean, that's kinda the mentality of winners and veterans and guys who know how long the season is. and just knows about the up and down how to navigate. And then once you get healthy and like the Mariners I think are there. They're that team that just expects to win and and there's no panic, no worry early. Once they get going like they are now, they're just gonna just continue to go. Yeah, a lot of things that were working against him I think in the beginning of the season you're right, then the sit there with the with the cow injury now and the Donovan injury, but Yeah, look at their record. They're three games over five hundred, but they're plus thirty one in that run difference, Joel. That's second best in the American league. Yankees are number one. Then it's the Mariners, and then it's the Rays. The Rays are at plus eighteen, but they're fifteen games over five hundred. Yeah, I don't know if that that can last. No, well I don't think it can last either. And and I know everyone's excited about the Rays. I think we're It's gonna be the same thing with the Rays. They're very good. They o they're fundamentally sound, but once the postseason comes or we get close to it. I I just don't think they're gonna be a factor. I mean The Mariners have the second best roster in this league. It's you know it's the them and the Yankees. Yeah. I agree. So you look around and like who who do you you know, don't match up against or who would you not want to face? You're right. The only team that that I would want to wait for the ALCS would be the Yankees. Yeah. 'Cause Mariners don't play well there. Um they're getting healthy too with Rodon and and Cole back. Um Yeah, that that'll be a tough one, but you're right, everybody else is just wide open. It's just yeah. And speaking of that, Puck, so real quick, my wife is in Vegas. She's got some work fun I think it's a work function. That's what she's saying. That's what she's telling you. It's a pilot convention we have to go to. I'm like, Well you're not a pilot? Wait a second. Why That's right. She's not a pilot, but she's going to a pilot convention. I've got a lot of questions. You should have a lot of questions as well. And I said as soon as you touch down, go to the nearest sports book. I don't care where it is, and put some money on the Mariners to win the West. Which I think is probably No odds there because that's a given. And then it put him down to win the World Series. I'm excited about it. So Hopefully she'll do that. She get her gambling Jones on a little bit. While she's working. Conferences. Puck. So Well she's not gonna get a lot of work done at the conferences. I'm gonna tell you that right now. My girls are funny. They're like, What's for dinner? And I'm like Oh I'm at the game. You can drive yourself to the fashion, drive yourselves to Chipotle where every teenager goes and pick up the the bowl. How about a freezer full? We got a freezer full of food. Don't you want that? Yeah, dump it. I don't know. Pasta and a you know, a quick pasta boil and some sauce is always a nice touch. Easy. Let's go. Yeah. What's for dinner? No. You guys are adult kidding me? Making you dinner? Oh no. Get on it. Get on it yourself. But and here's the other thing, too. And if you look and I'm sure many Mariner fans have looked ahead to this. And I know this is a broken record for people who watch or listen to this daily and and if you do Well you're saint and you have no wife. But their their season like the next Oh, nineteen games. I mean, this is sets up well, doesn't it? This is you can get real fat and happy. They'll they'll finish here with the Mets. And I know it's baseball, anything can happen, but you get Detroit, who's been a disaster. Baltimore not good. You get the Nationals. Yeah, and you get Bal you get Baltimore again. I mean the Nationals are better than They they're fine. Yeah. But you're right. And then you get and then you get the Red Sox. We really struggle with teams that are just Kinda middling right now, except for the Nationals are the only one team that's uh game over five hundred, but They got a real opportunity to stretch their legs out. Exactly. And you just kinda feel it going Their direction. You know, the A's are coming back. to earth as we thought they would. Yeah, but I like that A's team. Yeah, they're a fun offense. God, that's offense. They have no pitching but not offense is just so fun. Yeah, I mean, you know. It is. It is fun to watch, but they just They really struggle at home 'cause you said they they just can't pitch. I mean they have up thirteen runs in an inning to the Yankees. Thirteen runs and no home runs. That's what makes it so impressive what the the the Mariners pitchers did in that series. Yeah, limited him to four runs in three games. I mean that It's amazing, right? They stopped Kurtz's streak. Uh Soto had a fifteen game on base streak they just stopped. Marte had an eleven game hitting streak for Arizona. They stopped that. I mean their pitch And so good and so consistent. And now after the piggyback, which you know It's controversial maybe, but it's worked three times. But now since they've it has. Now that they've got these sixteen games in and yesterday was a first, in seventeen days, they're going with the with the six man rotation. So though you think they stick that out for the rest of the year? It's gonna be interesting. They're gonna reevaluate that they always give themselves that out, right? Hey, we'll do it for two weeks and then we'll reassess. Well what if there is I mean maybe they maybe there's no injuries, what do you do? I know, maybe you go back to Castillo, or maybe somebody I don't know, scuffling a little bit, maybe you pair him with someone. I I don't know. Or or six man. I just six man's just hard because you just lose You know, those starts from your your top end guys, and that's that's hard to do. But I mean, look at the six guys, how well they're all pitching. Right? But it also could be a huge advantage for someone like Brian Wu. Yeah, keep 'em healthy, give 'em rest, sure. Could be. Yep. And even maybe Silbert. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it could be a a blessing in disguise. Could be like we talked about, you know Guys they wanna start, they wanna get innings, they wanna get incentives in their contracts if they have them. You know, it's a big deal for these guys to to be the workhorse and and to to put up numbers. Um Yeah, it's It's it we keep saying it's a good problem to have. So far, I mean it it's not a problem. Now I hope it doesn't become a problem. You know what I mean? Like But it's usually d you avoid the problem when you win. Yeah, but I think ultimately if they they win as a a team and a This ends up them in the World Series and all that. to stomach. But yeah, they're they're competitors. They w wanna play, but I also do think that this group Does see the bigger picture. Right. Especially after last season. And and and the way that they're getting kind of contributions now from everybody. It just feels like it's just such a cohesive team right now. You got pitching, you got Bullplin was fantastic again and you get some great maze maze from, you know, Julio and Rayleigh and I mean Canzone is on fire. Cole Young just makes plays and Cole Emerson? I mean, well, Colt Davidson to start his major league career already has, you know, three home runs. He's slug and five sixty eight and he's got an OPS of nine oh eight. I don't think anybody thought that he would have this start and eventually, you know, the league will get more information, more data on him. But boy's got they've got pretty good sample size already, and he just continues to deliver. This is a guy that that wasn't necessarily well, he he was okay down in Triple A. He was okay. Striking out a lot. Right. But his offense was kind of the word of what was keeping him back. And he is He's been real good over there. And he's been hitting lefties. Home run last night against a lefty. Yeah. You know, it's not like he's gonna be a platoon guy or anything. No. And I liked what they did on Monday than I didn't like what they did on Monday. Because They had the starter who's only in there for an inning, but then it was Mania comes in who's a lefty. And so they decided to go with Luke Rayleigh. Okay, great. I like that. Yes. I like him hit. Throw Luke Rayleigh a bone. Absolutely. He's been hit. I just would've liked to see them throw Canzona bone. Instead of R Snyder. Oh, right. That's just me. If you're gonna throw Rayleigh a bone, throw Kanzone a bone. Right. And he's he's face more lefties than Rayleigh. Has this year. He has, but you're right. Because you gotta be thinking post season. That's what teams are gonna do, right? Bring in a lefty as soon as they can. And try to get those guys out of the game. Maybe I'm being maybe I'm being too d too hard on Rev Snyder. And I think right that I just I I think I whatever the decision I would just I'd be curious from then, from from their perspective, what was the decision to go with Rayleigh? 'Cause you know Rayleigh was gonna see the was not gonna see the starter. Probably not. So you're gonna see Manaia and he gets two at bats against Manaia and You know For whatever reason why didn't They just let Cans on it. I I think one of the reasons is that they're really trying to get Rev Snyder going. You know, he had a decent series in Sacramento. He did space three times, one game, hit the three run home run in the first inning. Um And they need to get him going because, you know, these pinch hit opportunities late in games are gonna happen all season long, right? And post season. So they need to Get him. Try to get him going. Yeah. But you have a good point too. I mean those guys are gonna have to face lefties at some point too. Okay. Now that we you and I are junior managers, let me just ask you this, maybe in the pre-game after you ask about The superstitions and all this, you can you can put a microphone on Dan Wilson's face and ask this question for me. What is it worked out yesterday there or in the in the Monday game with the extra inning win. because of Rosarina heads up base run and gets the third. Why when they're the home team do they just Their philosophy is to not bunt. W why is in the in the extra in the tenth? Yeah. Because he got the runner there. And maybe you're gonna say, Well, Patrick Wisdom is not comfortable doing it. Well well, then he should be. He's a utility guy off the bench. He should be asked and should know how to bunt. Right. Because you have Cole Young coming up. No one's expecting the worst thing for Patrick Wisdom could be to strike out. And not move the run or just not move the runner over. Why not just lay down a bunch? 'Cause you know Young's coming up. And then all it takes is a fly ball. Right. I don't know. That's a good question to ask him. Th they're Yeah, that their philosophy really is don't do it. They don't do small ball. Right. And and what an advantage to an extras to be the home team. Especially when in the in the last Three extra inning games, you know, three or four they've won in the tenth, and they have blanked the opposing team in the top of the tenth. I mean, that is That's hard to do once, but they've done it three times. Dave Spice on Monday was phenomenal in the heart of the order starting Soto. It was just it was I mean, I was That was a rouse. You were a rouse. It was great. So you know, you do that, you go to the bottom of ten, you're like, Well, do we give up and out and move 'em to third? Not when the pitcher gosh, this was unbelievable, this mentor guy, the lefty. For um For the Mets, he disengages twice, like, you know, turns like he's gonna throw back to Randy second, doesn't so Randy knows he can't third. It's full count, so this guy's gotta throw a strike. So he's gone. Easy. Easy steal. I it's And I don't have data on this, but it's bad baseball. It seems to me that the Mariners more advantage of these new rules in stealing than any other team. I mean, how do you explain Josh Naylor? Stealing like twenty nine bases or whatever he did. 'Cause he's smart and he knows that when guys just can't Throw over. So I think some of these pictures I think some of these pictures just forget to I think they forget the rules. True. I think they forget the engagement and all that. It was crazy last night. It was such a mistake by the Mets. So That's a great point, 'cause I you know until you brought it up, I didn't even really think about that. That yeah, you he'd look back twice to him. So he's got nothing. In the full count he's not gonna try to pick off. So yeah. Yeah. And then and then oh okay, so then You're on third, so the Infields In. Now if the infields back at regular debt The shortstop might have caught that ball. That was a shallow pop to left field. He might have caught that and Randy's still on second. So it was a huge point in in the game. Just everything just little things like that are are falling in their favor right now. Well, they're they're just they're they're playing great. They're doing it all at once. They're getting they're getting contributions from everyone, starting pitching the bullpen, the the offense and all and all that. And then eventually You know, I don't know what the time frame is. Maybe it's middle of this month, end of the month. You know, you're gonna get Cal Raleigh back and and Brendan Donovan back. So it's like Adding two guys at the deadline that you're gonna do. Oh, are we gonna do that? Yeah, we're gonna say that yes We're doing the adding the two guys at the deadline that they already had. Like trading for two all stars, Puck. It's that's what it's gonna be like. See, this year he doesn't even need to make a move at the deadline. No. We got two all stars coming. That's fine. He's got guys. It'll be great. It will be. All right, Brad Adam, Mariners TV. Catch him uh every single night on your TV screaming package. He's gonna be asking uh players about their superstitions and and everything. So awesome. And his uh weekly visit with us is all brought to you by John Howie State. Go visit, make a neck uh your next rec uh reservation. I can spit it out at JohnHowieSteakPlo.com. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, buddy. You want excellence in dining? Visit John Howie Steak, an experienced Premier Northwest dining. 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