Paul Scholes Early Career Struggles

This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. Shouldn't you be at home? Seagull follows a chora. It's because they sink salt jeans will be stormed into the sea. I will love it if we beat them. Love it. I'll have a low-fat pizza or something like that or a few biscuits and some milk on a Sunday. And you can pair up if you like, and you can fucking pick someone else to go up again, you can bring your fucking dinner. Pannister and Bruce in the queue again. Bruce! Let's go! Now you know him better than anybody, probably. Do you back him to score quickly, yes or no? Yes. Oh no! Welcome back to Now That's What I Call Quickly Kevin. I'm Chris Skull joining me Josh Witacam. Hello. And the man who wasn't Ian Wright's favourite teacher at school, it's Michael Marden. Hello. Love that clip. He talks about Desert Island Discs, if anyone's interested in hearing that. Apparently is Desert Island Disc is a complete tearjerker. We've discussed this though, have we? Have we? No discussed someone. You're cheating on us. You're cheating. You're having 90s football conversations outside of us. I am, yeah. And apparently Ian Wright's Desert Island Disc is absolutely magnificent and is a a real nice uh make weight when you consider his behaviour on I'm a celebrity get me out of it. It made amends. And the way he treated PH Michael all those years. So I've got a question for you before we uh before we go into our correspondence. How often are you checking the football news headlines these days? Not at all. And actually I I watch the sport update with like a morbid curiosity, so I'm just like, what are you gonna talk about today? Things be getting moved or cancelled. It's weird, isn't it? Because obviously my kind of default, one of my default crutches on my phone was like to check the football news. And now it's just completely gone from my life. And it's very quick how you can totally kind of write football out of the narrative of your life when it was quite central to it, if you know what I mean. Yeah. I'm still checking the BBC transfer gossip page every day. Oh yeah. Is that still going? Yeah, yeah, partly out of sort of muscle memory, but also just sort of morbid fascination or this need for some kind of football speculation. The thing that surprised me is how quickly FPL was such a big part of my week. And for two weeks it was like Yeah, fantasy Premier League. And for two weeks I was like I'd lost a limb. Have you furloughed your team, Michael? Yeah, well it's because the game weeks are still running. This is so boring, but the game weeks' still running because they can't rewrite the software. So you get the free transfer every week. So essentially everyone's got like A free wild card. You can just rebuild your team, but it's pointless because you don't know who's gonna be in form, you don't know who's gonna be at what club, what's gonna happen. So it's sort of entirely redundant. It's so weird, isn't it? I love trying to understand how it's affected my relationship with football. The other thing I was thinking about was like Do you think when everything restarts like the managers that were under pressure are still gonna be under pressure or do you think you get a bit more of a honeymoon period? I was thinking about until someone gets sacked. I think you're gonna have a bit of grace. Yeah, I think so too. Annoying I think Society's gonna keep the job now. I was like, damn it. I thought we might get potch, but now no chance. Pot. He thought he was gonna have three months out of the game. Can't even go on holiday, he's still probably stuck in North London. I find myself like I I will flick on Sky Sports, but what I've discovered is I've got no interest in any kind of contemporary football anymore. I've got no interest really in any kind of replays of games in the last like three years. Two thousand nine, maybe 2010 and before. I I I've watch everything, really into it. Do you know what? It's proven that I'm interested in football from the past. I know we all knew that. But So you've satisfied yourself. We are aiming uh we should say to the viewers in catch up to viewers, listeners, in catching up over these kind of lockdown weeks with guests that we've had on previously, like friends of the show, to see how the lockdowns affected them as football fans. They'll give advice on old football that you could watch to kill the evenings, and they'll talk to us about which players, you know, they're most excited about seeing once the lockdown's over, stuff like that. Uh so that will be coming up as part of all of our lockdown specials. But before that.. Here is some correspondence. I'm Jim Rosenthal and this is the Electronic Post Bag. You got mail. Three emails all about Panini's rising uh Merlin's rising stars. Uh so you know how I asked last week for people to uh do some research for us on uh the Merlin rising stars of nineteen ninety four, ninety five, was it? To run you through them again, Ian Selly, Steve Frogart, Darren Edy, Jamie Forrester, Darren Kaske, Neil Shippley, and Neil Bartlett. The Merlin's choice of the seven nailed uncertainties for football stardom. So uh Patrick Is It has um done us a uh favour. Hi guys. After hearing last week's list of Rising Stars, I decided to get to work on the research task, which is frankly the most exciting thing I've done in weeks. After a bit of digging on various websites to make sure we weren't doing England's next generation of stars any disservice. I've compiled a spreadsheet which makes excellent viewing. Brilliant. In Fallers to Ean Selli he did break his leg twice in the space of three seasons either side of his move to Fulham for five hundred thousand pounds. Enjoyed uncovering the developing careers which saw Neil Bartlett quit football for a role in the army in nineteen ninety seven. A Jamie Forrester s sort scumthorped town. No, it's gonna be united for FC Utrecht before returning to Warsaw. Hope uh this is of some use. So I'll run you through them. Do you know what? I'm gonna do it on Premier League appearances, I'm gonna do a kind of higher lower. Player cards right? Can we have the player cards right? Um theme tune please, Michael. Okay, Chris, are you ready to play your Merlin Stars of the Futures wrong? I'd love to, Bracey. We're gonna do it on Premier League appearances. Your first card is Ian Selly. Is Steve Frogart higher or lower than Ian Sally's 41 Premier League appearances? Got to be lower. You've lost. Wha Michael, the game's past you. Steve Fogg seventy-five Premier League appearances. Wow. Darren E D. Higher or lower than seventy five? Oh, that's tricky, because he featured, but I don't know that Norrid were in the Premier League enough. So I'm gonna say gonna say lower. God, what a waste of a game. It was higher. How many? 81, it was close. Come on, man, it's close. Back to Chris. Someone's gotta go there right. Darren Edy's 81. Jamie Forrester higher or lower. Lower. Correct. Darren Kasky higher or lower than Jamie Forrester's nine. Oh, that's gonna be really tight. It's not that tight. No, I'm gonna say higher then. Yes. 32, Darren Kaske. Neil Shipley, higher or lower than Darren Kaske's 32. Higher. 149 Premier League appearances. Neil Bartlett, higher or low than Neil Shipley. Uh lower. Lower it was. It was eight. There you go. Um so the honors, Ian Selley, he won an FA Cup, a League Cup, and a UA F Cup winners cup. Yeah, we had a lot of people tweeting about that that he played in the Cup Winners Cup final. Steve Frog won the League Cup. Darren Edy is anointed into the Norwich City Hall of Fame. Where's where's Eddie Mike? Oh yeah, there is A D Mike. They haven't got A D Mike down yet. Where's the data? I think it's our fault we didn't read out A D Mike. The three emails we've got, none of them are mentioned A D Mike. I must have made the mistake when doing the call out. I do apologise. So a new call out. Um Can we have all the information possible on AD Mike. Yeah. Someone wants to go for his bins. Well do you remember this is a great bit of 90s trivia that I think we've mentioned before. Do you remember that um there's a big scoop that Shearer was being linked with Man United because that someone had found the the the tickets for a plane jelly Manchester United were about to take and Alan Shearer's name was on. And it turns out that what they what they've done is kind of set a trap. They put this document in their bins to prove their theory that a journalist was going through their bins. Wow So a big front story scoop that Anti is going to say. Yeah, they entrapped they entrapped the journalists. That's the false memory. I'm sure that happened. So we've got we've got a couple more people who've sent in stuff about these people because people got absolutely fascinated by them. This is from Luke Williamson. Darren Edy was called up for England and was expected to make his debut in Le Tournoi in 1997. However He got injured and missed out and never featured again for the England first team. Really? That's mad. I never thought he was that close. Well get this. Steve Froggett was also called up for England. In nineteen ninety nine, during his time at Coventry. Ninety nine? For the Euro two thousand playoff with Scotland, but he was an unused slut. Wow, that is mad. So much later than I would have thought. It's mad, isn't it? I love that. There is the odd outlier though, isn't there, playing for England. I always think of like Chris Powell. Every now and again you'll get a like an absurd player. I was looking I actually watched the other day the highlights of when England beat Germany five one. Do you know who he played in uh I think it was left midfield. Do you know who's playing in left midfield? No, it's left. Nick Barnby. Nick Barbe. That's a different era. He should be in that team. That's a mistake. It's a glitch in a moment. He's a very forgettable player, isn't he, Nick Barbe? He w he went to Liverpool, didn't he? Kind of had this kind of Late rise in his career. Yeah, I think I think he's one of the biggest forgettable players, Nick Barbe. Like he is a high profile play out, moves for a lot of money, England caps, big clubs. But unless you'd mentioned him, I'd forgotten Nick Barbe even existed. Totally agree. So there you go. That's a that's amazing. A lot of interesting facts on those. If you've got anything on AD Mike, uh this is how to get in touch. Get in touch with the show. Email hello at quicklykevin.com Follow us on Facebook and Twitter at QuicklyKevin. and sign up to the mailing list at quicklykevin.com. correspondent. So earlier last week we um we tweeted who was better did a little Twitter poll, John Collins or Collins John. I'm delighted to reveal that John Collins won with 74.3% of the vote. However we got a reply on the on the thread to this from a guy called Adam Nathan who says that he's got a game that he plays with his mates uh who are at 11 goodie and at DM seven two three. And the game is putting players' names in sequences. And I have to just give you what he's come up with to to to kind of demonstrate how this game works. So he's got uh the following sequence of names. Stern, John, Collins, John, O'Shea. Given. That's six. Six individual names and he's strung together. So I think you're allowed to use the second bit of the surname 'cause he's not called O' Shea given. No, yeah. So I I I think what what I would like to do is invite the listeners to see if you can string together a longer line of players' names than that six, which is Stern John Hollins, John, O'Shea, given. We will accept Osha. And we should say uh there will be bonus points for the heavily leaning on the nineties. Yeah. Very little interest in anyone post two thousand seven. Thank you very much. Okay, now it is time to look back into the nostalgia football podcast. It really is eating itself. Do you remember that time when we remembered something? It is. Now that's what I call quickly, Kevin. First up, Alex Brooker tells us about his worst Arsenal eleven of the nineties. So, in Gull, we've got Vince Bartram. Vince Bartram. Oh yes. Vince Bartram. So I think with each one we should say to Skull. That name, what do you know? So the when I think of Vince Bartram, I think of your uh black and gray goalkeepers kit with a star in the middle. Yes. And uh and the other thing I think is that it was quite good. I remember them I think he might have played against my stamp, but I remember thinking the thing about Arsenal is you've always had good sub keepers throughout the ages. Like even when even when Seaman came in, John Lucas' number two, I'd have said he was alright. And do you remember Alex Meninga, for God's sake? Alex Meninga. Alex Meninga was in the world. What I liked about Alex Meninga is he looked like he was about 15, so you could kind of imagine like it just being like one of your mates in girlfriend. And the way you used to like dive on everything, right? You do maybe like a kid as well. But he I he had very he had very rugged cheeks, didn't he, Alex Malinga? The other thing that we ha that hasn't really come up on our podcast is that I grew up thinking substitute goalkeepers were rubbish and it was a massive advantage if a substitute goalkeeper came on. This may have been influenced by sensible soccer where the sub goalie's were always rubbish. So Vince Bartram I mean like I'm sure I saw Vince Bartram play games and thinking, well I'm still gonna concede four or five here. And I that never happened. So maybe I'm like For Vince Bartram the problem was that David Sigman was just really good. So he was never he was never ever gonna ever gonna get in the team. Um my trivia for Vince Bartram is that he later went on to play for Gillingham and his career ended when he got a wrist injury because he collided with Tony Warner, the goalkeeper, I think it was from Millwall, had come up for a corner in the last time. And then she got injured colliding with another goalkeeper. What a way to bring the curtain down. Also, Tony Warner was a kind of reserve at Liverpool, wasn't it? There was kind of that it was a bit of a circuit, like you had Tony Warner. Liverpool also had Mike Hooper, did you? You remember Mike Hooper? Didn't he play for Newcastle? Yeah, I think he went on to be a reserve keeper at Newcastle. It's one of the most compelling characters in football, I think. When you know you're never going to be first choice keeper. Like the third choice keeper at Chelsea, like Cudicini was there for years and didn't play. Like what's your daily routine? What what goes on? From Green at Chelsea. Yeah, well Richard Wright ended his career at City. I imagine right, do you reckon if they'd have had like WhatsApp? Back then they'd have had like a little WhatsApp group. Reser goalie. Reserve goalie WhatsApp group and they're just all slagging off. It's like, oh God, Steve Grisovich is doing my nuts. I'd love to know the money to games ratio. Like who earned the most money but played the least games. Richard Wright must be a contender. Wright, definitely. My favourite thing about reserve, I think Kudicini. Cudacini didn't he go from Chelsea to Spurs and stay as reserve goalie. Yeah, he was. Babe's just a great lad. He's a really good tab around the dressing room. My favorite thing a reserve goalie can do. is when it cuts the bench and they're wearing the gloves. Um Why are you worrying that you have time? Um I've got a little reserve goalie bit of tr trivia or factoid. My dad sponsored the match ball, West Ham vs QPR nineteen ninety four and we got into the ground for a tour at twelve PM uh twelve midday, the kickoff was three. Get in there at twelve. Les Seeley, our reserve goalie, was already strapped up, boots, like shin pads on, ready to go, three hours before the game. He was ready. He was ready for the team. No one was in the dressing room. It was a tour of the dressing rooms. He's already in there. Strapped up ready to go. No one else around. That's a different send. The reserve goalie was ready. Now You see a reserve goalie if they think the keeper's it's like they look as if they say you're joking I've got to come on Did you ever see Vince Barton play? Yeah, I must have seen Vince Barton play. I can't remember it, but I know that he wasn't like very good and like apparently they used to cheer when his goal kicks went uh further than the halfway. That's gonna knock his confidence. But he he came from Bournemouth and he just I always think it's a sign of players where they come from and then where they go straight back to. Yeah. And he came from like a lower league and then he went straight back down to like lower leagues and it's all pretty much all of these players have done that. You know we were talking about strikers on Wikipedia who've got awful goals to game ratio. Yeah. I bet if you looked up uh Ali Adier's goals to game ratio, I don't remember him ever scoring a goal. The thing with Ali Adier was he'd always do really well in like a League Cup game and you'd be like Well I'll tell you what, if he's done this against Rotherham in the League Cup, what is he gonna do in the Premier League? Jeremy Ali Adier, who uh eventually ended up at West Ham. I think it's worth pointing out. Try to think about I remember Ali Adier, he went out with that he went out with a uh a model, didn't he? He had that what's that like Layla or Lila? He had a quite famous girlfriend. Lelani. Lelani. Lelani. And then that was a very exciting time as a West Ham fan and I'm just. Yeah, I don't remember how they had the air scoring for us. But again, more dross. North north to East London. Come on in. Yeah, to have a more Suka. I mean going back to the Liam Brady, we had Hartson off, yeah, Chris. Ian Wright, obviously, yeah. Laughing all the way to the time. Nigel Winterburn, we could go on and on. So we found it, Michael. Yeah. So for a centre forward that played twenty nine league for Arsenal, he scored a single goal. Went to Celtic, didn't score a goal. Went to West Ham, didn't score a goal. Scored two unlow at Wolves in fourteen games. Found a bit of form at Middlesbrough. Uh this is way past the nineties, but 1 in 78 and then he just plummets down. 11 and 78 he's found a bit of form. Almost one in six. I'm sure that he pops up like they do like these legends games. We played Ace Man a couple of seasons ago, played Real Madrid this season. And I'm sure Ali Adier started the game At the Emirates, at Right Back. I'm really sure. Legends in the loosest sense of the word. I was like hungover. Looking on Arsenal.com. Michael feel feel free to Wikipedia Lalana to see what she's up to now. Her goal record's better than I guess. Next up, Bobby Gall tells us about his spell at West Brom and the time he signed Stuart Pierce. Let's have a few words on your clubs after at Wimbledon. So we've got West Brom for a period. Not the ha not the happiest time. What was wrong? What went wrong at Wimwooden uh West Brom, sorry. I was um I didn't settle it. It was something within the infrastructure of the club and when the chairman goes into the press conference and says oh this is Bobby Gould Uh the new manager of the football club at West Wombridge Albion but I didn't vote for him. Oh my gosh. Confidence that's a start in there. So I had a I had a a torrid time. We spoke to Frank Skinner and he said uh one game I think it was uh was it a way a way towards the a way to throw through towards the season. I'll tell you the story, okay? No no no he's not telling my story, this is my story. It's my story, not his Okay. So I've got I I've gone there and the I I had a nightmare. All of a sudden the lads are doing the walnut said, Gaff, you've got to get outside, you've got to see what they got for you. It was a coffin. And it had a this coffin, it was with all the West Brommish Albion supporters. And it had R. I P Bobby Gould. Rest in peace. They want you shot at me. They want you to be out of the way. Do you think Alan Taylor organized it? No, no, no, no. There is a follow-on. Okay, there's a follow-on. So we're talking now, where are we talking? 91, 92? 199, 91, 92. So anyway, so Imagine if today was the day your idea changed someone's life. Imagine if you could help someone pay for university, help your community build a new playground, or help a child make it to that dream competition. With GoFundMe, it's all possible. GoFundMe is the world's number one fundraising platform. Trusted by over 200 million people. Every week, ordinary people meet their goals and do extraordinary things. Your ideas matter. GoFundMe isn't just for emergencies. Want to raise money for your kids' football team? Or raise funds for a small business, a charity, or event. GoFundMe turn ideas into reality. And help adds up. 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Isotonic means it's in balance with your body fluids. One of the high points, you signed Stuart Pierce, you plucked him from obscurity. I was i in a situation of going to Coventry Anyway, so I'm struggling for a left back. I says Bostick I says what what you got in your little book. It says a I was a lad at Wheelstone. Oh yeah. He says yeah that he's funny enough he says they're playing at Yobal tonight. Well I th this time I was living in um Portishead in Bristol and I was commu commuting a little bit and um from Coventry, so I said, you'd like to go out for a meal? She says, oh that's lovely, I have thoughtful. I says, right, so I went down, picked her up, and took her to Yovel. She says, What kind of meal is this? I says, Well, you know, I want to see this player. She says, Who do you want to see it? I says, Well, he's a is a left back. Within five minutes, it was the old old Yovel pitch, which was on a a slant like that. And all of a sudden, the uh wheelstone number three hit the number seven. with a tackle I had never I had never seen for a long time. And the number seven nearly landed in my lap. And I said to the good lady, I said, we're going home. You can't go home. She said disrespectful. I see what I'm see. I see what I want to see. So anyway, so I I I drove home, got up at five o'clock the next morning, drove to Coventry, got onto the chairman I says, I want two and twenty two and a half grand. He says, What for? He got oh board meeting. I says, No board meeting. No board meeting, nothing. I says, I want twenty and two and a half grand. He says, What are you doing? I says, I'm buying myself a left back. He says, Who's that? Stuart Pierce? Wow, for five minutes. Uh oh, it's Omdinga. Oh closed. Shop closed. And I brought I brought him up. I brought up I went and I went and interviewed him with his mum, um and he was a he was a sparking electrician. Uh Ben Terry Venable got ready from uh QPR. Yeah. And uh I I brought him up and he he was stunning. Yeah. There was a f gentleman called George Curtis who was Jim Hill's number one and it George was the he he taken over the uh running at a club, you know, and uh it come up he's he's in the first team on Saturday. I says he is not in the first team on Saturday. George, you do not pick the team, I pick the team, you just disappear and know that you've got a great left back. I kept him for four weeks. I kept Percy. I hid him for four weeks. Fourth in that fourth week who we were playing at Hyville Road? Queensbot Rangers. Who was manager? Teddy Venerables. Who was man of the match? Stuart He was phenomenal. And did you sell him to Brian Clough? Pardon. Did you sell him to Forest? I had a phone call. Well yeah, so it all went on I I tell you his best position is it wasn't full back. We went over to Scandinavia and I played with a sweeper. So I played um a three b uh uh somebody good on the ball. I played two good markers, I played two f I played two wide men. And he was he w he was the third man of the midfield. Oh right. He was awesome. Really. Awesome. He was back and forward and it's a new role and he'd rattle them in midfield and they don't expect that, you see. But he was he was he was brilliant. He was really, really very, very special. And finally, Gary Neville drops a bombshell that as a teenager, Paul Skulls was the player they thought wouldn't make it as a pro. With that class of 92, so there's, you know, there's the the the six on the on the wall there, and then there's obviously there's the Ben Thornley's, and there's, you know, a lot of people say Ben Thornley was actually the, you know, the greatest of all in talent wise. Was there anyone in the class of 92, and you don't need to name names, that you thought was shit that actually made it as a professional footballer? That's the question you've never been asked. If I exclude myself for now. Anyone thought gonna make it. Yeah. I can actually, I don't even need to be, I can name him. If you said to me at 1213, Skullsy would be one of the greatest players. I said how? He was so small, so slight, he didn't have great energy and strength, he had no strength. Yeah. You could knock him off the ball because he was really slight. He had asthma. You'd probably run very far. It wasn't quick, he never beat you for pace. So you've got to imagine when you're a young kid at 12, 13, 14, you play as Nicky Butt and Nicky Butt was an animal. He'd run all over you, power, the strength, he'd kick you, he'd head you, he'd pass the ball, he'd run forward, and you thought, gee, you saw Ben Thornley beating players, quick, nimble, agile. You saw sort of bet coming in, sort of the best striker of a ball you ever saw, whipping the crosses in, that ping that he had. So you saw qualities in every single player. I say I exclude myself. But I was a defender, I was being pushed back into defence, which is a completely different thing. And then you look at his goals and you just think yeah obviously he was tied beyond the ball when he got the ball. But you just how come he can't cope? Physically he can't cope with everything that's going on around him. He sort of didn't really get into the county team. Didn't really play a lot of games. So in the first year 1992, he didn't play on the youth team. Really? But all of a sudden the year after, I think that was the point where I think he stopped. I think that was the point where he stopped drinking beer. And stopped and stopped eating pies on a Friday. And he tells the story himself, but he was, he he scolds he was sort of you know you just eat what he wanted. And then transformation inside of two or two or three years was unbelievable. So you just think about I mean what I would say is the club saw him as a player though. Yes they could see it. Brian Kidd adored him Sir Alex said if he doesn't become a football player we can all pack in and that's when he was 18. But we have sort of been with him since he was 14, 16, 17 you're always thinking well you know from our youth team 92 it was Nicky Button central midfield with Simon Davis it was Ben Thorne, Keith Gillespie and Bex. Four of those five Scores never got a look in. I don't think he was on the bench in the 92 final I don't think he's on the bench. So people that class of 92 stalls in that 92 Cupwin wasn't on the pitch, wasn't in the bench. So that was to one to me was the biggest shot. And then you get to the end of my career and I say the best player that I ever played with. So if you think of that jump from being a 13, 14 year old when you first see him. to this sort of like you know small kid with no strength not great stamina can't really run that fast to becoming the best player you've ever played with that is a sh that's a big shit but he was never in danger of getting kind of let go was he did he ever kind of no no we I mean I wasn't privy to those discussions anyway but to be fair the club in themselves saw obviously the future saw the potential the talent so that's what clubs do and Brian Kid I have to say He the one thing he had he was a nasty little scroll so he could stick up for himself. He won't back out of a tackle even though he was younger. Well for his career. Yeah. I mean I remember him as actually a six year old in the B team, he he played a g he played a couple of games at left back. It was too it was too much for him in central midfield. So he played at left back. thinking actually you have to get him out of the way. We play the muddy pitches, uh we play against big lads. Strength and power really important. You know that when you play football you're younger, the big lads always used to just trample all over you. And skulls you just end up getting shift out to left back. Yeah, it just obviously the the club themselves believed in him and knew he growth, knew that obviously this incredible awareness. But it's no good it's no good being aware if the pitch is muddy and you've got two six foot two six foot two your 15 year olds again. Awareness doesn't really care. The ball's stuck. It's who's the strongest, who can get it out of that mud. And this little kid from Middleton couldn't get it out of the mud so left back. There's a bit of grass over there. That was our best bits. Or so not all the best bits. That was some of our best bits. Thank you very much for listening. And as a little treat at the end, we do like to leave you with something from Desert Lynham's album of poetry. What career. Sku. Can we have a number, please? I'd like the key to the door, twenty one. 21. Okay, that's it for today. We'll be back tomorrow with our first ever play-along quiz. Do join us for that. Until then, here's Des Linem and Robbie Slater. See you later. I went into a public house to get a pint of beer. The publican, he up and says, We serve no red coats here. The girls behind the bar they laughed and giggled fit to die. I out into the street again and to myself says I, Oh it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy go away. But it's thank you, Mr. Atkins, when the band begins to play. The band begins to play, my boys. The band begins to play. Oh, it's thank you, Mr. Atkins, when the band begins to play. I went into a theater as sober as could be. They gave a drunk civilian room, but hadn't none for me. They sent me to the gallery, or round the music halls. But when it comes to fighting, Lord, they'll shove me in the stalls. For it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy wait outside. But it's special train for Atkins, when the troopers on the tide. The troop ships on the tide, my boys. The troop ships on the tide. Oh, it's special train for Atkins, when the troopers on the tide. Yes, making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep is cheaper than them uniforms and their starvation cheap. And hustling drunken soldiers when they're going large a bit is five times better business than parading in full kit. Then it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy How's your soul? But it's thin red line of heroes when the drums begin to roll. The drums begin to roll, my boys. The drums begin to roll. Oh, it's thin red line of heroes when the drums begin to roll. We aren't no thin red heroes, no we aren't no blackguards, too. but single men in barracks most remarkable like you. And if sometimes our conduct isn't all your fancy paints, why single men in barracks don't grow into plaster saints. Well it's Tommy this and Tommy that and Tommy fall behind. But it's please to walk in front, sir. When there's trouble in the wind. There's trouble in the wind, my boys. There's trouble in the wind. Oh, it's please to walk in front, sir. When there's trouble in the wind. You talk of better food for us, and schools and fars and all. We'll wait for extra rations if you treat us rational. Don't mess about the cookroom slots, but prove it to our face. The widow's uniform is not the soldier man's disgrace, for it's Tommy this and Tommy that and chuck him out the brute. but it's saviour of his country when the guns begin to shoot. And it's Tommy this, and Tommy that, and anything you please. And Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool, you bet that Tommy sees. Mm. I'm Max Rushton, I'm David O'Daherty, and we'd like to invite you to listen to our new podcast, What Did You Do Yesterday. It's a show that asks guests the big question, quite literally, What did you do yesterday? That's it. That is it. 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