Future of the Backrooms Franchise

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But overall, from a feature debut film, One of the biggest hits of the year from a ten million dollarsar budget with A twenty four, Kanaine Parsons directing as a twenty year old nineteen when we made the film twenty years old when it comes out. It's so impressive. We're seeing a new wave of Hollywood filmmakers and Kane Very much going to be a part of it And is this the best the biggest moment of Blum House since its early days? I don't think a combination of obsession in backrooms. I think get out was still a bigger sensation You know, We'll see because get out, ended up making three hundred million dollars, but that was also cultural fever. But you could argue that because social media is so much more prevalent now that obsession and backrooms is probably compable. I think that you, Blumhouse, this is great for Blumhouse. It's amazing for A twenty four. It's going to be their most successful movie ever Oh hundred that already is almost their most successful movie in three days. and it was a great There's a great concept and I I really enjoyed a lot of this movie but ultimately it didn't always land with me But I found it to still be a really impressive debut Um, a well made movie, a well I left I love the craftsmanship of the film. I thought the cinematography was interesting And I like I love the concept of the backrooms. I will say As a narrative structure and as an overall film experience It it just didn't didnn't quite do it for me I still respect the hell out of it. I think that, you know, Kain Parsons built this incredible world unbelievable IP of The backrooms on YouTube, which I knew nothing about a year ago N even heard of it. And then with the film announcement did a little bit of research and then I've not watch watched much of the backroroundoms. I've seen a little a little bit here and there. And then it's just an amazing story that this young guy I created such a big sensation on the internet. I built a huge following on YouTube and You' basing it off this really cool underground story on Reddit and filled with so much ambiguity and so much mystery And then eight twenty four really making the right move of investing in this guy, investing in the world he's crafted and built on YouTube And this is an opportunity for young people to see something on screen that they grew up loving, not an IP that's being remade for them Not an IP from the eighties, not a property from the seventies that a studio is remaking or something they grew up loving. they grew up obsessing about Um it to You can see the excitement. peopleeople are going nuts for this and it's such a big success. It blew all the expectations, projections all the water. So it's an amazing success And I think it was overall an interesting experience at the cinema We'll talk about the good and the bad. I don't think it was a perfect movie. I don't think it was amazing, but I did have I did see some interesting moments, some interesting scenes and some great questions posed in the narrative. And the market was great and the ambiguity, the mystery of what are these rooms? what are these spaces, the aesthetic, the soft yellow glow from fluorescent lights made me so curious not to look into the details, but to experience the film. as organically as possible for someone who never saw the shorts, never was on the on YouTube watching the short films that all kinds of people are making about backrooms. so but I did do some research and I want to talk a little bit more about what the backrooms are. like the original lore. So yeah, Kane Parsons, he did not invent The backrooms In twenty nineteen, the original concept went viral. an anonymous creepy pasta post on F chan in twenty nineteen of this yellow photo of this ye of this yellow walled maze of vacant office spaces started to create an online collaborative world of people, you know, exploring the backrooms, generating content based off the backrooms idea, then in twenty twenty two Canain startarted known as Cane Pixels on YouTube, started expanding and exploring the concept significantly in january twenty twenty two, he began uploading his hugely successful series of found footage sci fi horse shs shorts on his YouTube channel based off the back room. So he didn't invent the back room. It was just this online collaborative thing So people would add to the lore Yeah and then his just really took off Eactly. took off big time and then He was faced with, you know, go to college or pursue filmmaking, getting offers from studios and people in Hollywood in the industry, Riter strike happened so that had to go on pause but as soon as the strikes ended, he got the offer from A twenty four. He said once eight twenty four got involved after the attention from his web series, then they attached him to the project and got him to direct it as well. You know what? his story sounds very similar to the guy who made the maze Runner trilogy And now' doing Zelda. C't remember the name of W Ball. West B And he did the last plan of the Apes film Hm made used unreal he used Blendnder to create a really cool science fiction dystopian short film. It's about twenty minutes long It was made completely with visual effects and then that got him the Maze Rner franchise that short. That's what came did sound very similar. Yeah. findnder for the film too. Yeah, finding You know, artistic voices and storytellers who are able to create things in their head and their imagination with the freedom of something like Blender That's that's exact that's very much like how West Ball did it. Yeah. and I don't think that we're going to see a complete shift in Hollywood of On movies are going to be funded by people who make content or YouTube creators. Obviously we're still going to have traditional films and traditional storytellers, but I think because the success of Kane, of Cirry Barker, of Mark Plier These filmmakers Now Hollywood's going to be looking to TikTok to Instagram, to YouTube for the next voices for upcoming film. Yeah I would love to eventually see that leave horror and not just be stuck in pigeonholed in the genre of horror which is exciting. People love horrors booming. We get so many original ideas. like that that's why horror is booming again. You know, horrors booming multiple times. You know, peopleople are saying in twenty seventeen when get out came out there. all horror is booming again. But this is I'm saying booming. No, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna keep saying booming. This is a unique rise in the genre because of the infusion of not from traditional Hollywood space coming in to make cinema I think that's why it's a unique situation now What's so important is theirir connection to young people who grew up online get most they they'll prefer to watch things online than go to movies These filmakers are getting that audience to the theater. because I obviously Backroom om obsession, making stupid amount of money. But like you said, Iron Lung made twenty million its opening weekend And in a fanbase that loves multiplier And that's the demographic where studios It's that mysterious it's the most valuable demographic. It's like sixteen to twenty five. And how do you get them to go to the movies And they used to be able to bank on U superhero movies. Yeah. because the generation before this generation where crazy about superheroes. and that's where Marvel in DC really exploded. They made five years of terrible superhero movies. Yeah people were tuned out And so now the young the generation after them They're not as into superheroes as the generation before them. So they could argue because they've been fed the same carbon copy of the same blockbuster for their entire youth that they are yearning for something unique. And it's not as interesting to them. They like the content they're seeing on YouTube and that they're seeing on Discord and Reddit And so this is a way to tap into You know, not making, you know, a different kind of movie, but tapping into the voices that connect with that audience on social media on YouTube And then this is how this is a way to capture the interest of that demographic that they Hollywood has been losing. Now what the fuck is the backrooms? I'm going to explain it from what I could research. From a video game perspective then the film. So from a video game perspective or short term perspective, level zero, the original classic backrooms is an infinite network of empty randomly connected rooms, which feature yellow wallpaper and carpet often described as moist or stained buzzing fluorescent lights, which was cool when Chuel, his character first walked into the back rooms and you he the the hum of the fluorescence, no windows or doors to the outside world. occasional oddities like vents pillars or slightly different architecture. thenen no clipping is the fictional way to enter glitching through reality like in the video games by falling through the floor or walls in certain liminal spaces in real life. For example, at the bottom floor, the basement structure of the furniture store where Chuitel's character walks through is a no clipping situation walking through one of the walls, as well as they contain entities dangerous creatures that roam the levels. The most famous early one is smilers. Grinning faces in the dark or hounds later lore added many later added later on. The Backrooms became a massive collaborative project similar to the SCP foundoundation. People created hundreds and hundreds of levels with different themes, different platforms. I mean some people building stuff in Minecraft or on YouTube, Blender, I'm sure all kinds of apps were used to do. this. Some are flooded, others are dark, neon laid hotel style, forest cities, rules like the almond water A survival item, different dangers per level in escape methods It's now documented on massive amounts of websites as well as the backrooms Wiki has thousands and thousands of entries of details of different spaces in the backrooms. And why it's so popular? Liminal spaces perfectly captures the unsettling feeling of empty familiar, but wrong places, which the movie explores through the idea of memories. We'll go more into that later on I think of empty office buildings at night or infinite IKEA, which it oftentimes felt like. And even IKEA played around a lot of companies are doing like fun posts to like hop on the marketing campaign because it's organically marketing itself as well as infusing found footage and analogue horror, whichawn spawned thousands of YouTube videos games and short films like Kanaine's backroom series with high fidelity cameras or super rate or you know, camcordterers It's a very heavily memed thing as well, like Roblox in addition to that. So It's huge with the younger generation A lot of people like, I I knew it existed I'd seen videos and clips. I'd never looked into it before though. And then when the movie got green lit and announced, I was excited about it. It looked cool and I purposefully didn't explore more because I wanted to go in completely blind to this film. Yeah. that's so interesting. and you bet your ass Studios are looking into what else is popular on Reddit in terms of storytelling. Reddit and YouTube abbsolutely underground stories. Now let's do a quick plot summary, spoiler light of the film. So Chut tellra four plays Clark, a failed architect turned struggling furniture store owner, which I think is a great irony for the backrooms in general and is dealing with alcoholis, alcoholism, divorce Its basically at the rock bottom of his life, This movie set in the early nineteen nineties as well you'll be able to tell by the fashion and music choices as well as the camera tech. While living in his store, he discovers a mysterious slit in a basement wall that leads into the back rooms, an endless shifting dimension of yellow lit, liminal office like spaces, malform furniture, surreal rooms in lurking entities. His therapist Dr. Mary Klein played by the revelatory a situation where it deserves that word. Rerate runs can see every fucking acting millboard. This person's a revelation, Reatory No, Rerate actually is who has her own unresolved childhood trauma, eventually follows him in after he kind of disappears, the story blends slurburn, Dread, exploration, corporate conspiracy and psychological unraveling. Supporting class also includes Mark Du Place in a small row, Finn Bennett and Lukita Maxwell. Now let let's talk about the film And The strengths, I think were the filmmaking and the production And then in terms of weakness, I think the weakness was the story and the writing But let's talk about the strengths first for sure Visually really interesting. The concept is great because it's unique I like the liminal aspects of it Um I like this mysterious dread built in the first act of the film. And I like the way it feels. It has a great feeling to it. It has a great tone to it. Especially the first act. and I always appreciate films that take their time to get things going. This one, you got a sense for the character pretty well Um And in terms of production I love the practicality of it for something that was created using Blender online. It was great to see that they built so much of this And there were certain sequences where they mashed they blended together the blender used the blender visual effects with live action in a really seamless way I lik the creativity of the design of the world. I liked Um a couple of good scares Especially the first reveal of the first attack, which is a lot of fun And then a great sequence, really, you could say the nightmarish sequence beginning of the third act, which is which is a great moment. like the midway midway point, I would say I like the design of These u Memory creatures, memory monsters, versions of things It was very creatively done funun camera work Sam cinemotographer is L Lgs and I really like him And production designer, Danny Hermett. great team. They work really well in Unison. I like how Jeremy Cox is the DP. Thank you. He uses wide angle lenses and rarely goes to longeng long length. Yeah a wide angle zoom on this one. Yeah, you get a sense for everything, the surroundings I like the aspect ratio made you feel kind of claustrophobic madeade you feel kind of trapped And yeah, they did a great job. but overall, had a really nice patient filmmaking. Very controlled and precise And I like the atmosphere of the sound design Really great stuff. The like like James mentioned, the fluorescent lights. I liked how You know, you're like, okay, what's the next hallway going to look like? What's the next room gonna to look like You never knew what to expect. So they always kept the audience on their toes for the design of the world leading into like the greatreat Third act where it is kind of like all kind of a big climactic chase That was a lot of fun. So I really liked the design of the world. I think it lived up to the mystery that they built with the YouTube channel. And I think they were very clever in how they approached the filming of this movie because Kane has such a background in blender in visual effects in infusing that with larger budget filmmaking in cinema. And so Jeremy Cox, the DP, confirmed they shot the majority of the film on a Red Komodo in Super sixteen mode. They also shot on a Sony handicam height, a cam cord as well as an R Alexa sixty five for specific things but using the right Komodo and Super sixteen mode with a wide Zoom lens allows the ability to kind of emulate the style of old cam quorders and old cameras, which often were very wide with high ability of Zoom. And then using visual effects, making that footage look like high eight footage like camcarter footage. I think that was really effective because I think that's a smart way to do it because especially if you're spending this much money on a movie Dylan. thirty thousand square feet of space You don't want to shoot this on a camcorder, but when you want the camcorder feel, You still shoot on the camera, youre shooting all the dynamic cinema on, all the normal filmmaking And then you have the luxury of all of the information. you have the dynamic range, you have the quality so that you can work backwards and infuse the aesthetic and look of a camcorder or high aid visual on top onto that footage. So you get the quality of What quality digital camera with the aesthetic of a low quality digital camera. I think it was the smart way to go about it. Looked great. Also that camera is pretty compact and small and That suuper sixteen mode, they're able to they crop the super sixteen Equivalents in they gave it a narrower field of view and deeper depth of field, which is why it felt like a video game while you're watching. It's a very wide shot. But you see everything. everythingverything's in detail. I think that's one of the eerie things about it is doing that to mimic old cam quarters, mimic what these old cameras could do because They're also more of a boxy square aspect ratio, those cameras back in the day. And then but it was really interesting because like everything's in focus when you shoot on a camcord unless you're zoom in big time. when you're just normal wide basasically a standard zoom length. Everything's in focus. And it's a square box. So I thought it was really clever to immediately picked up on what they were doing for me personally, like a video game or a camcorder. It's interesting to look at two of the major YouTuber turned filmmaker releases, Shelby Oaks and then this did a combination of both traditional filmmaking and live action filmmaking and blended them together throughout the narratives. Yeah, I mean, it's efficient, it's cheap and also with Kaine specifically, he's got such experience in visual effects using Blendnder, so why not do it here? It made I felt a video game aspect feeling to it becausecause of the POV camera work, it did feel like levels of like being a character in a video game exploring like liminal levels of a video game in a way. Yeah. And so They did use some camcter stuff L when Finn's characters using the camcorder looking through the mirror, they switch to the camcorder for that, but they're able to make the red Komoto footage look like that to really effectively make it match Um I love the opening so much of this film. I think the opening was the best part of the film There's a strictly POV chase from a monster inside of massive environments. No answers at all given. veryery mysterious. this guy running through these halls being chased by something. We're seeing a little glimpses of it findinds this stand full of oscilloscopes and radios to trying to contact people and then it gets captured U I thought it was so fun and it harkened back to the nineties It was effected because it immediately made you feel like you were in the nineties, early two thousand. whichich I mean, a lot of people have seen the movie didn't grow up then but I'm sure you've seen movies and stuff from the past or foundountain footage really was you're starting to boom Anthy's leasts favoritevie this episode. But I liked it a lot. You really felt the claustrophobia of the maze despite being so big and endless. it felt crushingly tiny at the same time I love the opening. Yeah, there the moments of action I would say were the strongest parts of the film. Uh, with that and then with Clark's midpoint Chaotic. Odyssey that he went on after Beck was attacked And then Mary's exploration and then escape of attempted escape of the backroom of the backrooms. I think those are the strongest parts of the film And some good scares And there's a great David Lynch scene put in the middle of the film, which which I enjoyed Um it was very lychian in a good way Um, But I gott to say And Kaine Parsons did a great job. The team did a great job Ultimately for me, what let me down with the film was the writing and the narrative and the characters Personally, I couldn't really connect or care about the characters And I'm not sure if a therapist character was the right Ho lead. choice of who that other role is going to be And Rerotayss one of the best actors working today She is great in everything And Clark, she tells her for You know, he's one of the great actors as well For me, one of the issues I had with the film was so many things were just explained to us with dialogue in a film that should be really completely shrouded with mystery I felt like there were things that were overvexplained so much exposition at times You know D didn't Ronic because it doesn't reveal much. Exactly. So this film in a way, revealed a lot with dialogue, but also didn't reveal anything. which for me had it totally had a weird feeling about Too much exposition, explaining kind of nothing in a way Um so I would say I'm not sure therapist's character works. It might have worked better if it was his wife instead because the therapist character, you know, allows for the film to explain who these characters are through exposition rather than showing us I think it could have been a little bit better if, you know, Clarark maybe rather than telling us that he doesn't have a good relationship with his wife showing us doesn't have a good relationship with his wife. I mean, then the terror inside the backrooms could have been visualizations of his wife. Exactly. And so I think that the characters in the screenplay could have definitely been improved, and I was ultimately kind of let down with the narrative There are things of the film that I really enjoyed and I really liked moments of it But I was a little surprised that it was really just a series of you, people wandering the backrooms, then running from a monster and then trying to survive and it really simply reallyally that's basically what it was. And so I was hoping for a little bit more narrative, oomph and power and more mystery And a little bit more world building, not that I wanted things explain But it didn't seem as amazingly curious as I was walking into it anticipating it to be, if that makes sense. It was really exciting at first in the in the backrooms at first. you know, I thought it was so intriguing firstirst time goes in. Yeah. So curious after seeing the opening And as astounding as the production design is and incredible. and I love, love, love the visuals You know, it got a little bit old at times, especially but it's because I think the narrative wasn't filling in the space pun intended of engagement that you can get so much from the visuals But I need the story to carry me along I need the story to engage with me too. And I get the movie, you know, I know people when you you just don't get it, man. don't get it. We understand. I get it I get the concept of the backrooms is a metaphor for memories, you know when someone goes inside of there Um And this dimension, which Async is trying to understand, which they really can't, So much of it is psychological copies of reflections of your memories, which are imperfect. are what's creating the spaces inside And that's why whatever is coming after you or chasing you' coming to attack you is some portion of yourself. We have the giant Clark That looks just like him in the Py costume because it's probably the thing he's most ashamed of. That's why it's coming after him because He wants he's supposed to be an architect. lifeife didn't go his plan. He's blaming everything but himself And all he has to do is look at himself to see what the problems and the inadequacies of his life and how they've started the self loathing, the failed dreams Um, But that's why all they they consistently said throughout the film. It's like that line where you describe to someone what a dog looks like without them having ever seen a dog and they try to draw a photo. It's kind of interesting a way to think of how we think of our memories which become so fragmented. Even dreams become so fragmented if you even remember them. Um And so It also explains so much with Mary with the ending shot. So I understand The memories aspect. I understand the dimension, I understand the main motifs of the film But it still doesn't takeake away it from the fact that it did get a little drag in the in the middle The third act was pretty cool. had I enjoyed the third act Um But there was that middle point where I needed more and I was a little disappointed when the other characters died so quickly. I think that they were interesting energy. the young guy the young couple. Yeah, I agree. They were an interesting energy to be brought into the film Based off the trailer I thought they'd have a larger role in the film, but they're really only there for a couple of scenes ye in the death of the guy was crazy. I love. I was so locked the fuck in Um I like the Christmas sequence, the Christmas tree, the red rooms. I thought that was really interesting and terrifying. But at the end of the day You get a little slow when you keep exploring similar looking environments, but the narrative's not keeping up And when I say the film explained too much without explaining anything and there was too much exposition, that David Lynch scene when Mary's been tied up in that at the dinner table and the two in the And Clarark has been there for a while and he's got the two memory monsters just chilling This is a moment where There's three memory monsters and then he pulls like my favor moment of the movie was when he said And you can eat them and you start ripping off right stomach Amazing. and I was like, oh, this is some David Lynch stuff. But then Clark was on a five minute monologue explaining what everything is. And I was like, that's not what David Lynch ever did. He would present you with ideas and images, but he would never explain them And that's where I think the biggest weakness of the film was is it kept explaining stuff Clark just went on this tangent of like who they are, what the backrooms is. what's going on and I was like, I didn't want anything explained I was happy be presented with this really bizarre situation and not have to know what everything is because then the audience, each member of an audience of the audience, everybody who sees this movie, can try to come up with their own explanation of things So it got to the point where a really cool moment happened But then we got someone explain what was happening. And for me, it took away the power of like that moment in particular, that scene in particular, I was like This is so cool But then Clarark starts saying what telling Mary what's going on because I was like, how did Clarark learn all this Who told them all this? How did he learn that they were edible You don't need because when characters start explaining stuff then you can then it makes it posuses the questioning of things Whereas it would have been stronger if they cut all that dialogue out and just presented the bizarrenness of it Yeah I agree because I think at that point, we understand what's happening, especially when the giant clark comes in, if you just erase all that monologing And when he speaks to the giant Clark He's saying, you know, it's okay. we can we don't have to change. Yeah. That means he knows that this is him. Yeah. This is a version of him whatever the backrooms has created from the minimal psycholog logical imprint that Clark has given it since it's been there And it's recreating versions of Clarkout the back rooms based off its limited memory of him. Um, which because the bathroom is such a psychological trap in a lot of ways. which explains the ending of the movie in a bit Um I think I really understood at that point like that's him. Yeah. But it's what the backrooms created of him Same with at the end of the film You know, people are wondering what is the what does the final shot Oh Backroom is mean is that actually married, did she get trapped there because she was just getting interrogated by Mark Dupllace's character at Aync who are exploring dimension every day. That's what they do for a living. they explore the back rooms, they go in every day U so you can assume that there are imprints of them all over as well the back rooms, that last shot of the oddly remembered distorted version of Mary is a different Mary. It's not her That's what's stuck in there. That's what the back rooms is creating from the imprint that Mary left on the backrooms in there. So it's a version of her But it's not the same, it's not perfect It's an echo, a psychological echo Psychological echo will look differently for everybody Obviously Clark's is very different than Mary's So that's what I think the ending is. It's not actually the original Mary,'s psychological copy. That's why they didn't have to explain it with dialogue because they showed it. Yeah. This is what I mean about the film where it posits something cool and it presents something interesting a mysterious But then I don't know if it's like an insecurity with the writing where they're like, o we need to explain to audiences But they're showing it and they're explaining it And so then the idea gets redundant when it's like B both explain to us and then we see it. All we have to do is see it because then that's It rewards rewatches. And it rewards, you know, diving into the film But when things are spelled out too much, it takes away the power of the imagery that we're seeing. And at the same time, it doesn't take away from the huge hit and success of the film. Yeah, you know It's innovative, it's immersive. I thought it was great world buildilding. and I really enjoyed the lore that's there. It made me hungry for more information about the lore and what the bathrooms are I like the uneasiness that The everyday contemporary architecture made me feel because it's just like almost like an uncanny valley situation where it looks like places I've been, but It's fucked up It's weird It's odd It doesn't exactly match what I know. What was your favorite part of the backrooms from the film. Evironment, whichich one was your favorite? That's a good question. You know, one of my favorite scenes was the ramp Wh I love Lark Tied them to the tied Finn's character to the bed It's a rope and Fin's like,'s going to be sick I'm go down there. whatever, man And then I really enjoyed that sequence because it was a great moment to build suspense and fear for the audience of him slowly going down. they keep o, this really this inclines steeper than I thought and then he falls a couple of times, stumbles down U I like that first big room Not whereing Clarark walks in first with the furniture, but when that kid goes into he's he's exploring a new room for the furniture trrash room. Clark hasn't been in there yet. I thought that was the best set because It was so fucking creepy and weird looking and Big room with these sections of hubby rooms And there's just like piles of clothes shoes and almost looks like Like Wizard of Oz, feet sticking out from underneath the structure, like something's underneath that. Is there something in the darkness watching? Is there something in the shadows I thought that was really creepy. And then especially the sound design that a horizontal door, the metal door that was opening up and something was coming out and was starting to trailood. Yeah, then after when he gets taken in the trarail of Bood. I think that was my favorite set of the backrooms. I loved the dinner set. Like again, that was my favorite moment of the film And I really like the design of it because the environment, especially behind Mary where it had this really great surrealist architecture and design to it where was anle it angled and narrowed. Looked like it went on forever. Yeah, exactly. and it was a really cool image behind Mary. I liked that room a lot because it was I really u there's one That was a great use of Blender and live action, which was when she she's escaping the giant pirate clark. which I was not expecting to see Come And she goes into that huge cutout environment where the floor is cut out and there's endless levels of Backrooms floors below and it's cut out. And it has this the stairwell. to a door on the ceiling. Yeah, that was cool. I think that was a really interesting environment and my maybe my favorite of the entire film that is a cool space of exploration Do you think it needed more horror I will say it wasn't scary to me at all None of the scares really worked and it wasn't It was It was interesting what was happening, but I was not scared and I didn't really feel dread. because There were a couple of horror cliches that we got where you're the actress falls down and starts limping It's like theiterally like scary movies opening spoof. You know what I mean? like I was like, really are we doing the limp? Just slow them down. And then and then you moving very slow. evenven when you' like ye, especially up the stairs. That was one of the things that was pulling me out was the character behavior of moving incredibly slow in situations of danger. when even if you twist your ankle, you can still crawl a lot quicker. But it was just to build suspense. Yeah once she was doing the horror movie, Limp, I was like really kind of taken out of it and then in that big environment with the cutout levels U It took forever for the giant pirate clark to break through that door And I was like, he's fucking like ten feet tall. You should be able to bust through this thing. So And she was going up the stairs so slowly U I think the best moment of horror. was The attack of Finn They did a great job of just showing, you know trail of blood and the door closing. I think that was the best moment of horror. Just glimpses of the monster too. And then I think they were The Christmas tree room was supposed to be the big scary moment, but it really with the u The memory monster in the in the red dress, S, Sue. 't really didn't really I didn't find it very that scary She scared me out. She was like chasing him. It didn't really do much for me. I was hoping for more scares, especially with the way people were reacting to this film. And if you got scared by this movie, that's great. That's awesome. For me, I didn't find it scary at all really I don't need a horror movie to be terrifyingly scary. because I think for me It was enough of an eerie toned I didn't need more horror I would have, you know, I like horror and I would have liked a little I would have liked a little more gore Yeah little. you know, we got a good one when Clarark gets bitten in the jugglar from Giant Clark But I'm okay with not getting scared constantly or needing more scares. So I think for me it was an effective amount of dread and suspense. Again, it's just the narrative holding it back, the character writing holding it back in a lot of ways. I think Caine directed his ass off to be honest. V nice that It was exceptional from fromrom a first time filmmaker, I was really surprised how great it came out. And I'm really impressed by him But I think it just the writing held the movie back in a lot of ways, which often happens, you know, at the end of the day, the story is the most important thing. and I agree. If it had a better screenplay and better character arcs, I think it would have been an exceptional horror film It still was in a lot of ways. It was very good. I mean, obviously it captured the world, man literally, you know, broke a one hundred million dollars in his opening weekend glly, which is outstanding You know, it's really impressive and I think Hollywood's going to be looking at themselves like, we got to get one of those YouTuber kids. And it just shows like, you know, a remake of the birds this guy announced and it's like, you think people are going to turn out for that fucking They're turning out for things that are new. That's what they want H hundred percent. And again, I like the world buildilding. the concept is so strong and build up of all these years of the YouTube And from now I've learned the rightit community in the storytelling the crowded Croud community storytelling built into this world just feeding like this monster of the backrooms. And it's exciting because I like the film and I'm still curious. you know, evenven though we're talking about some of the cons of the film, I'm still very intrigued and I want more. I want to learn more. So like I think this movie in this now IP franchise is rife for for a sequel. a lot of potential. And I think that obviously they left it ambiguous at the end. It didn't have a full conclusion. It was Mary and Mark D Place character talking and then it cuts to her the as the version of herself, the copied version of herself, the memory version of herself. So there really isn't no Full conclusion there. I could imagine seeing Mary coming back in a sequel and you know You fucking know they probably already greenlit this behind the scenes on Thursday. maybe open thirty eight million on Thursday. Maybe D Bos will have the lead in the next film. It's possible. interesteresting to explore the async aspect of it. I think so too. So I think we're just getting started here with back rooms. I think backrooms is going Get a sequel fast. I would't be surprised if it's twenty eight when we get another one of these. mayaybe the end of twenty twenty seven U I think it would be interesting to explore how it was created how Async accidentally created the backrooms in the early explorations of it. They didn't create the backrooms. They found it. Okay, how they discovered it. Yeah. And it would be interesting to see, you know, Duplace and whoever else works for the company exploring it for the first time There's a lot of like there's I mean, I'm sure you could because they said portals are opening up all over the world You can do Infinite of stories with this. Yeah. So I think that this is just the start for back rooms. It's going to be something that's going to be very big. It's already enormous going forward. I can imagine seeing fucking four movies made in the next five years out of this and I'm sure that will happen once, you know The I mean already is going to happen because this box office is just it's just absolutely shocking. how much money it made. This the shocking The film that saved eight twenty four. eighty eight domestic opening weekend Are you kidding? A twenty four has never done anything close to that? That'sane. It's more money than Hreditary made. Is that it? Hreditary thirenty five million I think I think Hreditary was maybe eighty. Hold on let me pull this up But with that gu start It's going to easily hit. three hundred million Let's see eight twenty fours can biggest Let's see what they are And this is got to be number one Re quick, if not immediately in a couple of days. Mari Supreme pulled one hundred ninety one. Wow, great job. And then yeah, Samari Spreme, one hundred ninety one million dollars the Mus' office Everything every go at once one hundred forty three The drama one hundred and twenty eight Civil War one hundred and twenty seven Backrooms right now is number five, but that's gonna to absolutely decimate. Number five after the three days are release that's shocking. one hundred eighty million dollars. materials, materialists one hundred nine million do. Talk to me ninety two. hereditary, eighty seven million. So Brooms Oing domestic weekend matched Hreditary's entire global box office run. beat ladybirds Got box offers. But you know, just for inflation You know, sureure, yeah, just Horrietary is over a hundred bill, if you adjust Maybe It only like six years ago Have you seen your? inflation since twenty twenty? You're right Storage devices right out. Yeah Oh my God, hard drives. Yeah, everythingverything's doubled. one hundred and fifty percent in the last six months. Yeah. crazy. Yeah. Noope, but I enjoy back rooms. At a good time is very eerie. I think there's so much potential to explore I think A better screenplay and it would have been one of the best movies of the year. Yeah. I think it's really exciting and I'm very impressed and I think it's fucking awesome, the success it's seeing right away Um, I can't wait to see more, honestly. Yeah I agree. like ultimately, it was an interesting movie. I didn't love it, but I it was interesting and I think it has a lot of potential of going forward have you know, with a good story. to really be a great film I think Cane Parsons is a director to watch. obviously everyone's going to be, but