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Grill up a dog, add classic yellow mustard, or load it Chicago style We all know it's not a cookout without Oscar Meyer and Heines If you guys are going to do another one, like what films would you tackle? Obviously, I think obsession in back rooms would be just massive to pull from. Like ghost space inside the back rooms would be hilarious. Yeah, I mean, the fact how that's just affecting the culture right now is makes it, you know, we'd be crazy not to incorporate those movies. Is there ever an issue with rights in terms of trying to replicate a character or another film on screen like this if it's a different studio Definitely. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole yes, the lawyers loved us. They had no shortness of work. How happy were they to get basically control of the franchise back in that whole process of losing the IP rights in three and four, but in five. I imagine they were very happy. I was thrilled because I started working for those guys a few years after they had lost Scary movie. What franchise? What weird did that happen that they lost it? It was after two, which had to be what two thousand one, two thousand two right there. Yeah. And you know, and to have something like To have something like that taken from you, you know, and then have to watch it move on and other people make it, that could not have been easy. And I know that had to be very hard for them. and I never stopped them. and they kept searching for comedy. and they went on to make White chicks and Little Man and just kept making, you know films that are classics What I loved about going to Cindy's house and that it was, you know, booby trapped. We really wanted to hit home that booby trap and make it big and explosive like the original sccary movies. So it was fun to rip him off that porch and have him fly into the what was that? bob wired wooden Bloodlines referennce. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. so that was a good moment Michael Titus Thankks for joining the show. Scary Movie Six is crushing and as someone who grew up watching and loving the originals with the Waynesbros and I got to say, you guys really delivered. It felt like the originals and I feel like it was the perfect time because there's so much horror and so much to pull from and a ton of material to work with Yeah, thank you, man. I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me And I'm so happy to see the audiences are enjoying Scary movie. I mean, we loved making it. and we think it was just a perfect time for a big laugh. and I hopefull everybody's having a lot of fun with it. Yeah, I love sppoofs. You know I loved the naked gun I don't know if you saw that the new It was great. I hadn't laugh that hard in theaters in a while Yeah I talk about it pretty often on the show. like comedy, you know, growing up in the two thousands, some of the biggest movies ever year would be comedies. they'd crush of the box obvious and everyone seen them. I grew up, you know, Step brrothers super bad when I was like fifteen was perfect for me and quted it for years and still do. But it seems like the last six, seven years, comedies have really taken a back seat as a genre Yeah, I mean comedies were what was paying for the award fair back in the day and would give you such a big return on your investment. And it was always a fantastic time to go with friends and spend the day or the night watching a comedy and getting out of the movie and then talking about it. And it's the type of genre that you quote years later, you're still saying those kind of quotes from the movie like Super Bad They just have an impact on you that's different, that stays with you. And yeah, I think that, you know, a lot's happened. It's never like one thing. I think technology has kind of been moving at like just breakneck speed. and we have this, you know, birth of streaming and just the internet in general, podcasts that are entertaining, TikToks, you know, YouTube Content creators making really interesting things, which are now ending up on big screens and you know getting the d that they are owed. And then COVID hits and you know everybody's put at home and it became, I think the business just kind of looked at it as, you, okay, well, I think comedy is something that you know people enjoy watching on their couch and it became like a streamer genre for a little while. But I think the problem with that is when you take comedy out of the theaters You lose something. You know what I mean? A joke by yourself on the couch gets a chuckle on that same joke in a theater with, you know, a hundred strangers gets a roaring laugh it becomes Yeah, it becomes an experience that can turn into a memory that could last with you forever. So Yeah. I mean, it's just interesting I think you guys it was the right time. Like we're in this boom right now, so much horror And obviously using Scream as the backdrop is the main motif of the franchise in Ghost face. I can't wait to see where he ends up next whether it's the backrooms or an obsession. I'm sure you guys are are tinking away right now already on the next one. but I mean stillill having the formula of of this one, this one going back to one and two kind of going back to sccream. I know you did last summer, brringing a bunch of those characters who were pretty much killed off, but it's like there's no rules and spoops. You can do whatever you want. That's right. I mean, noobbody really dies Scary movie. I think Seawn's died in like every one of them. and you know, you're right, The horror genre is just having, you know, a hell of a ten years now here and we're getting so many fantastic movies. And that's what's so good about What iss this so fun about doing a parody? you know? Be these are movies that we genuinely like, that we enjoy, that we sit around and we watch and we study and I dissect these things And so then you know you get to do a parody and you get to send these movies up and you get to dip your toe kind of in the pool of, you know, Jordan Peeel and get out or you're going and doing long legs or terrifyer or you, all of them. And so for me, it's just like an opportunity to play in their sandbox for, you know, a scene and to have fun and really explore what they were doing visually, sound design, what the scene is about And how are we going to, you know, tease the audience down the same path and then hit them with jokes that they never saw coming and keep it really fun and interesting? And so I think when you have so many great horror films, it's just the hard part is picking which ones you do. Yeah, that was like my next question. How do you figure out which ones are going to be best? I mean, I think getout's a great choice because of the big cultural impact and long legs was a massive hit too. So like what's the process of like Which movies are we going to pick? And then are you guys just sitting down and the Waynes brothers sitting down and writing, what can we pull from this movie? How can we incorporate it subtly into the script into the story? Yeah, I think, you know, the guys keyed in really early that they wanted to bring back Ghostface. Yeah. And that was something that excited me about the movie. like right when I knew that Ghostface was coming back and we were going to be able to secure the core four back It was just like, I was over the moon. I was like, this is exactly the type of parody I've been waiting to make. And Ghostface, I mean, just an iconic character from Scream, you know? And the first movie and to really kind of like go back and, you know, tie the DNA from the original one in two scary movies to this one And to you know deliver authentic kind of Wayne Brothers comedy was the goal. And the great part was, you know, having Ghost Face kind of puts us into a theme of slasher. And so that opened up, you know, sccream five and six. Not to mention, those movies also have this legacy cast, meeting a new cast, introducing them to each other, introducing a whole new generation of audience to a genre that or to a movie that maybe they weren't, you know connected to or didn't feel was they had any new ownership of. So all those things and all those pieces really kind of lined up perfectly for this movie. And all of it was really exciting because it allowed us, I think, to really kind of spread the web and connect with audience in a deep way. Scream and Scary movie go hand in hand. They're like meant to be together. They reallyy a meatball or lamb and tuna fish Daddy. So like I think it's just such a great complimentary of each other. And like if Scream's doing well, which it is the last one was the biggest of the franchise. Scary movie does well too when you make a great movie like you guys did Biggest one of the franchise so far. and diving into just movies that I love so much, but also What I loved so much about Scary Movie Six in your film was You it felt like you made it for my generation, our generation. Millennials, GX Maybe like people in their twenties who grew up watching and loving the originals and loving the sppoofs. I feel like a lot of studios, especially comedies they're trying to cater too much to younger audiences, which is good, but I think you're able to do everything, especially when you put everyone in the umbrella of scope of comedy so that no jokes are off limits. And that's what I think was so great about this film. and I loved it so much for that reason, man. Oh, thank you, man. That's really cool. You know, it is exactly. I mean, we were definitely going after this generation. And that's what was so, I think, kind of perfect about Scream five. It was bringing a legacy cast with a new cast. And the way I looked at it was also being able to honor a legacy audience of fans and introduce a whole new generation of fans You know, I'm not saying that young people had or aren't familiar with sccary moovie, but they've never had the opportunity to experience it in a theater And I think seeing Scary moovie in a theater is different from seeing other movies in a theater, you know? And I can remember the first time I saw Scary Movie in two thousand and I was with my buddies and we were across the street from where I went to college, the UC seven Theater. And we went and saw that movie and we had so much fun and the whole audience was just roaring with laughter and it's just like energizing. Like I said, it creates a memory And so for me, I was excited to hopefully give that you know, opportunity to a new generation of audiences that hadn't experienced in theaters. And you know we wanted to make a movie that was bringing together, you know, the legacy of, you know, the Wayans and Anna and Regina. But also what I think Scary moovie does really, really well is whenever it comes out It's, you know It's talking about today, it's talking about pop culture. It's talking about politics. It's talking about it's taking a jab at the social commentary of that moment. And I feel like that added a lot right now because we have a lot going on. We have this perfect kind of you vehicle with Scream five and Scream six to kind of you know use that as a plot point and really bring back ghost face and use all these amazing horror films that have been made in the last five, six years. It just was kind of the stars aligning It's kind of a good point where what you brought earlier two, with comedy writing where some of the funniest people alive, comedians now. They have their own podcast now. They don't need movies. They don't need to screenwrite anymore. Like whereas forty years ago the two thousands, like great comedians were writ movies, they were writing TV shows, writing pilots, trying to get something made. But now it seems like there's less of the comedy talent focused on filmmaking. And I think that's one of the reasons why as well as comedy' been dwindling. But I think Naked Gun, this also it's been kind of beingver subvertent to other genres. Yeah. You know, obbviously, superhero movies took the comedy to a huge level. I mean, kind of replicating everything Robert Downner J junior did in the Ironan movies, like that became the formula. Oh ye, The O liners But I think there's something about the sppoofs that I think is special and unique and it's always resonated with me. And I think that a lot of these younger kids they didn't grow up with spoofs, but I think They love memes. Yeah. And basically they're kind of just meme scenes in a lot ofays. Yeah. I think we're also making fun of their movies. Yeah. You know what I mean likeike they're getting to go to these horror movies for the first time and experience long legs, what two, three years ago? Yeah. That's their movie. That's their, you know, filmmakers are making those horror movies for this generation. For me, it was Freddy Kruger and Jason and Michael Myers, which we, you know, try to pay homage too in our movies too But u it's theres it's ownership. and I think, u What you're talking about with comedy and how it's spread out and there's just so many ways to kind of died well, to download it. You know what I mean? Literally through YouTube and podcasts, there's so many avenues of entertainment I just think that Um Differe though is when you go to the theater and you have an experience It's not the same. You know what I mean? Like When I find a funny meme or and I see something The first thing I do is literally send it to my wife and my best friend and this person and that person And I want to share it Yeah. That's what I want to do. And I remember like that's one of the things that I loved about movies when I was younger. I would find a movie, I would watch it It would make an impact on me. and immediately, all I wanted to do was watch it with my best friend or my family. and then I'd be watching the movie and that scene would come on and that moment would happen and I would look and I would see if they had the same reaction that I had and I would get pissed off if they don't. Yeah. exactly. Or if they got up to go to the bathroom. Yeah, There's a button for that. But exactly. And that shared experience, I think, is what makes, you know, movie going and movie theaters so unique You know, I mean, they've been telling stories around campfires for thousands of years. And I think the movie theater is just a modern, you know, campfire. I'm always curious about The rights for specific IP's that you're putting in a spoof, and especially a sccaary movie like there had to have been what thirty or forty references in this one. There were so many. Is there ever an issue with rights in terms of trying to replicate a character or another film on screen like this if it's a different studio? Definitely. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole, yes, the lawyers loved us. They had no shortness of work No, there is. you know there's comedy law though too, and there's like a parody law. I don't really know so much about it. I try not to get too deep into that idea because I want to just let my creative you mind work and just keep asking for everything I could possibly ask for. and don't let the producers and the lawyers worry about that. You know, you have to change I think it's like thirty percent, you know what I mean? What it looks like. And we definitely did that in different places and we just try to do them in unique ways. And you know, at the end of the day, I don't want to replicate anything either. so I'm just trying to evoke the original feeling, you know, It's like in the subway, we have what's her face dancing? Megan. Mean Dancing, you know, And it doesn look like you But it looks like Meghgan. Like inststantly when you see it, you're like, Oh, that's Megan. But if you were to look into details, it's like, oh, okay, it looks like Meghgan. It feels like Mean but it's not exactly Man So I think that's the trick, you know, it's evoking that feeling and that imagery from the originals and you can get away with it. I have to admit sometimes the workload of the podcast can get overwhelming with All the recording, the editing, we go to a lot of events, travel a lot and I get burnt out quite a bit. and I think that's where it's important to consider therapy and talking to somebody. 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High school was harder. From the world of legally blonde, watch Al, a new original series only on Prime videoide. Watch now. and also incorporating not only horror movies but other movies because when When Cindy gets the black suit on and the slick black hair. I'm like What's going on right now? And then you did the amazing John Wick sequence was fucking perfect. My favorite part of the movie probably was the John Wick sequence because it went on for a good amount of time. It was like a two, three minute scene. and then you just see two hundred ghosts face coming in taking them all out. But the character design was great. The deeper voice was so funny because Ina was so talented, but then even the gun accuracy, like it looked like Terin Tactical as guns. was was parents. It was it was the John Wick gunsuck Yeah. you know, that was I was looking so forward to that scene. Especially, you know, talking to Anna about it also because she had never, you know, done any gun work or had any real like fight sequences like that. And so it was exciting. It was exciting to also take Cindy from You know, being an aloof type character to this, you know powerful kind of character that's going to get vengeance on Ghostface. You know, and of course, when you go back to the first scary movie, they had that great Matrix moment. Yeah. exactly. We wanted to kind of replicate that with, you know, a big action moment. And it was fantastic. you know, we had a great stunt team on that, Steve Ritzy Noah who you know, choreographed the fight sequence and, you know, we wanted to, you know, make it our own. So we threw some dildos in there. People know where we got that idea from. And then it was about wielding dildoos and you know, making the guns really crack. But it was a lot of fun and Anna did just a fantastic job and she just went for it put herself out there and just was just macking people with Dilda. It was hilarious. Would she like to work out? L she seems amazing. Hna's fantastic. Yeahah, she's so collaborative and just will try and everything and, you know tells you how she's feeling and works with you. And you know, she really understands that she' great timing, great adlbs, very smart. She's always adlibbing from the perspective of her character which is Its just great to do. It makes my job a little easier when you know, you're getting sixty adlbs in a scene. you got to make sure they're all pointed in the right direction and you know, all coming from the right right places. So basically you guys in terms of the writing and then improvisation on setays is there a ton with the adlbs in terms of like what's the wor I mean, the Ways Brothers, you know, their secret formula Their formula is It does incorporate the freedom to adelive because they're comedians And no joke is ever really done being told. They're always evolving. you know, like every scene, when we write the movie, you know, we have the draft and we're constantly working the scenes, constantly adding jokes. You know, if something topical happens tomorrow or today, we're putting it in the scene tomorrow or we're trying to find a way, hey, you know, this just happened. Is that set still standing? Can we go back and pick up a moment and nail that joke before we tear that set down next week? So it's always an evolution. And so when we get to set, you know, the idea is that Look, we get what's on the page. We nail that. It has our beginning, our middle of an end, it's pushing our story forward, our plot forward, our characters forward. We're making sure to protect all those things. But we also want to be able to have this kind of freedom. and I try to build a set that has, you know, that feels safe and you know, I want actors to try things and there's no wrong way to go, you know with ad loing And the minute it starts happening, it's like how I see capturing, you know, comedy lightning in a bottle because something will happen a spark and then I'll say something and we'll adjust. and then we'll fix, you know the blocking maybe. And then the next thing you know, someone comes up with another another line and it's like, ooh, let's go down that path. And we just start throwing things out and the next thing you know, you have this scene that just kind of comes to life with U you know, just really raw energy and fun because they're having that much fun doing it in the moment too. It kind of sounds like SNL in a way in terms of like we have to hurry up and get this set figured out right now before we wrap production sort of I. But I heard the SNL, they don't add liib very much. Okay They're very like on book because they're li. Yeah. And I think if you were to add liib Beause you know, sometimes you'll add them, you'll say some shit and somebody bursts out laughing and just can't hold it together. So But I mean, it's definitely, you know I think the association there is that I'm just working with really talented actors who are hilarious and very funny and all have a unique perspective on the world and comedy and their own delivery. And as a director of comedy, you want to harness that. And you want to give them the opportunity as much runway as possible to squeeze all that comedic juice out of the lemon, you know? How many deleted scenes would you say are in Sary movie six? Because I loved the smile references, but I saw you posted on Instagram right think. the smile with the ghost faces is replicating that scene from smile two. Yeah, that would hurt man. Be I love I love the smile movies. Those are some of my favorite horror movies. I love that IPile The small movies are fantastic. Pror Finn is fantastic. He's a hiller. Part two was better than one. I agree. And the way they opened that movie was sick ing out window and running across and then getting hit by a car. Kyle Galler, he's a good actor. I mean, very similar to how one of a girl who runs out of a house and screams six seven gets hit by a car. That was actually the sequence that I showed my my Terry Terry Stacacey, my DP, I showed him that sequence and I was like, this is what I want to do with the car hit. I want to feel like this. And we kind of dissected how they did that and that's how we kind of went about going and pulling that off. But yeah, I just smile was such a fantastic movie I wish so in terms of other deleted scenes, did you shoot a sequence of that of the Oh so see I'm obviously referencing answers with Naomiimes I lose my way.'s. I'm sure how busy is to deleted scenes. There's a good handful of deleted scenes. Yeah. Smile, you know, there's it was a great, you know, funny. It was a sequence that had you know, a lot of other things in it too It just comes down to like killing your darlings Yeah, you know. And at the end of the day, it was kind of becoming a hat on a hat because Cindy was fighting some other ghost face, taking them out and then suddenly, you know, we're kind of resetting and going back up to the big kind of John Wake moment. So I felt like it was stepping on it a little bit. So we took it out. But it' that was one of the hardest pieces for me to cut because I absolutely loved the mask that we created. Yeah a smile mask. Yeah, I mean, because one of the things that I loved about this movie was getting the opportunity to play in the Keenan Harvey Way and Scary movie sandbox and I redesigned all the masks Because the original mask was very like floppy, you know, and I wanted to just really redefine the mask and had an opportunity to like do different masks in these movies, which was really fun. And the smile one was the one that took me the longest to really kind of nail down and get correct. Yeah, because I love the reference with what's his name inside the hospital room but I was like When I saw that photo you posted, I'm like, fuck, I gott to see that deleted scene at some point. And then L Lgs you were able to sneak in during the credits, which I thought was. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And you know Ls Long Legs was definitely more incorporated into the film, but it really worked better at the end there as, you know added just an additional kind of fun moment And it really worked better on its own than it did in the middle of the film. I have to thank you for bringing Officer Doofy back in such a big way. I love spepecial Officer Doofy. Dfy. The funniest part, I think of those old scary movies to have him back in such a big way and connecting it kind of like foundal destination bloodlines and COVID and everything, it was so good to have him back. Yeah, it was so a blasted to have Doofy back. Dave Sheridan, man, he is so funny and he brings that character to life. and I've worked with Dave I think on five movies now, you know, and he's just a fantastic character actor. He's always bringing something to his characters, be it, you know just different wardrobe and anything you can bring to it. It's just like, I remember on Haunted House, he showed up and he had these massive like Coke bottle glasses And he was playing he plays the brother with Kechner, the handyman and the camera guys that come to Haunted House. And he's almost unrecognizable in that movie. But he walked in with those glasses and was like, Oh my God. he's like, Yeah, dude, is what it is. It's really funny. I got this and he showed me this whole spiel. And I was like, all right, that's hilarious. Let's go with that. That's really fun. Did he have a lot to do with the original Officer Doofy design back in the day and then bring it back in terms of like the out? I don't know, but knowing him, I bet he definitely contributed. plastic gun too and this one was hysterical. Probably. I mean, never disturb me when I'm cleaning my rooms. That's right. That line and I think Gail Swallows is my favorite. And I got Gail Swallows back into the movie. reallyally funny does a great moment. It's like when you see an older band and you want to see them play the hits. I want to I want to see Yeah you got you got to give the fans what they want here Let' make it relevant, you know, like you said, topical stuff, but also I did not see KPop deemon hunters coming into this at all. Like that took me by surprise and was hysterical when Shorty gets taken into the chair Yeah for the getout sequence. That was so fucking funy Yeah, I mean, we had to do something with the K pop, right? Yeah It's such a phenomenon, it's such a big movie. And you know, when the guys pitched that, I was like, oh my God, that's genius. notot to mention to parody of music that is winning Academy Awards and, you know, just massive and to just bring in a whole new texture to the movie, you know, with animation So I was very excited about that because, you know, we could push that a little bit. Immediately I thought of like Team America, you know what I mean I'm like I K hop demon hunter shitting on somebody in this moie. We didn't go there, but it was just a really fun opportunity to delve into a different you know kind of texture for the movie. I love the weapons bit too. and I thought that looked excellent. It looked like I was watching Weapons for a bit. think music choice as well was really excellent. kind of like the soft classic rock void vibe I thought that was really funny. It was challenging. It was challenging to find music that evoked that original song that is way too expensive for us to put into this movie. And yeah, and you know, we shot that on the back of backlog of Tyler Perry Studios. and you know, he's got a little backlog going and it's really only like one road. And so houses Yeah of houses and standing sets and things like that And I just wanted to really nail because I mean, obviously Zach did such a great job of making that movie so iconic with its, you know, visuals in that first two minutes of the movie is that running. And you know, it was funny because immediately when we saw that, we all just I just think it's so fun that the internet has fun with those movies too with the whole Naratu, you know, run and all that. We just had so many ideas and it was great to have You know, a bunch of kids on set that day and they probably had a blast, I'm sure. Oh, they were thrilled. It was really fun. I feel like there's there's a strong connection lately with comedy writers and comedians in horror. I mean, obviously Crager started off as Whiteest Kids you know if no one's ever seen it or watched it is onene of the funniest sketch shows out there is like almost as like big as Keim and Peel, but Keim and Peel got huge Yeah. I mean, then you see Curry Barker getting a massive reception with obsession and one of the biggest movies we've seen in terms of profitability and fan cultural reverence in decades. It's like the new paranormal activity in terms of the output it's doing. The return on investments crazy. But you know Curry starting with comedy sketches on YouTube and Instagram and something about comedians and horrors They're able to tap into emotional connection stronger than most genres right now. Yeah, think you know I think the best comedians will tell you that comedy comes from pain. You know, I know Marlon believes that and it's true. I think you know it's interesting, you know, working with the Wands and especially very closely with Marlon, you know, he's just a great guy, first of all But he's taught me a lot about making movies, making comedies, but also just to look at life through a comedy lens and find the humor in everything, even like the darkest times in your life, because look, we got to be hopeful, we got to smile. lifeife doesn't get any easier, you know So you're gonna need those laughs. And I think comedians can really tap into that And a lot of the comedy resonates for them, you know, those' the happy sad clown, you know kind of analogies. So And I think it also helps that, you know, timing is a big thing in both of those genres, you know? And I think what stands out is in comedy is the timing, how you tell that joke, how you craft the reveal of that joke, or you know, the mislead of that joke And that's exactly what you're doing in horror too. You know, you're creating an expectation and then subverting it and then hitting them when they don't know it with horror or a scare. And I do the same thing with, you know, comedy, you know, tease the tension and then hit them with a joke instead of a scare. How happy were they to get basically control of the franchise back in that whole process of losing the IP rights in three and four, but in five I imagine they were very happy. I was thrilled because I started working with those guys a few years after they had lost Scary movie What What weir did that happened that they lost you? It was after two, which had to be what two thousand one, two thousand two right there. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, and to have something like To have something like that taken from you, you know, and then have to watch it move on and other people make it, that could not have been easy. And I know that had to be very hard for them. and I never stopped them. and they kept searching for comedy. and they went on to make White chicks and Little Man and just kept making you know films that are classics. And they were very excited to get it back. I was super happy for them to get it back. I think it's back where it deserves Or where it should be with them, the rightful owners. And I don't think anybody does it like they do. No, they don't. I mean, they're great writers. But also, I mean, Marlon's such a great actor too, in general. I mean, like I still remember seeing Recreom for a Dream the first time and blew my hair back in that movie. I mean that movie's a fucking crazy film anyways, regardless, but Oh yeah. because like I'd seen the scary movies before. I went back and saw that film for the first Maybe like fifteen or sixteen, but then I was like, holy shit, Marlin is killing this performance. Darren Aronowski, Marlin Wayan's genius dude. He's a real deal, man. He can do everything. And I mean, he literally talks about how drama' easy for him. It comedy is the challenge. And he's just so good at it. And you know, it's just fantastic to work with a guy at that caliber He does stand up all the time, so he's so sharp. He can see a joke from a mile away. He's also just extremely collaborative, which is why I love working with him so much because we both just have this love of telling jokes and making people laugh. And when we get into that, you know kind of building of a joke, it's just about searching for the biggest and best joke. and how do we tell it that makes the world laugh, you know? And there's no like ego there. It's just like, maybe it's this, maybe it's that. What if it's this? And it's just a great way to collaborate and find it It seems like a family business and not just film, but scary movie in general. I come from a family business as well, not movies. but I kind of feel like that's it for them for the Wayneesefinite mo. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, I mean, that and like li in color, I guess. You know, obbviously, Kenan came out and made way for his family and they've always done that. We did that on this movie too. We had a lot of young Waynes in the movie. Yeah. Greg Waynees is in the movie. Marlon's son, Marlon's daughter is the one that holds up the testicles and drops it sheo was, I think two. You know, it's a family affair. and they're all uniquely funny. It's just in their blood And it's great.'s I love what they do. I always forget that like they kind of sort of discovered Jim Carey and like got him going on that they discovered I mean, Jay Lo, Jim Carey, I mean, Jamie Fowx. There are so many breakout stars from Men Living Color. I mean, I'm happy they're finally getting credit for the Super Bowl now. that was super cool. I mean, that's where the halftime show came from. I missed more Sketch shows And obviously, Ke and Peel moved they are comyential than YouTube, but I mean I remember all that when I was a kid. like that was like the Nickelodeon skketch show and then Mad TV was great as well. It was just so much more common than it is now. and I wish streamers would like take a shot at. like let's do some sketch comedy stuff, not just YouTube. But I mean, you're right in terms of technology, TikTok and YouTube and Instagram. That's where sketch comedies are living and thriving right now. Yeah, it's hard It's hard to do it because it's so fast. Somet happens today and someone's making a joke about it tomorrow and there's a meme about it. And I think sketch comedy is just as a TV show, It's just a challenging thing to do. It's not an easy thing. you know, Saturday night li for being around as long as it has is amazing. that they're still making weekly sketch comedy. That's not an easy thing. It's so hard to do. Yeah, it's kind of grandfathered in at this point to the culture where Yeah if a new sketch show with the same budget, the same talent comes out next week Probably wouldn't survive like ten years. I mean, they're trying it in England. I haven't watched yet, but I hear it's pretty good Saturday night in the UK Yeah ye. Totally. I haven't seen y itet either. Yeah know, I know there's been a lot of shows that I've tried. I had a sketch show for a while with Afon Crockket. and it was fantastic and it was really fun, but we only did one season. But like I said, sketch is not easy to do So's what are the key ingredients to like a sketch or a spoof? Well, you have to be able to well, the spoof and a sketch in the similarities is like they have to be kind of making fun of something that's somewhat iconic People can, you, understand it's in the Zeitgeist, right? Like Th these movies are about piercing the Zeitgeist and you know, kind of attacking that culture. And you got to kind of know what the culture is also. And a lot of that you know survives online right now. And that's what I think made you know some of the jokes in sccary movie so relevant is because we were playing with those kind of pop culture you ie But it's got to be instantly recognizable as so you know the world that you're in or at least, you know, set it up correctly. And then the jokes have to just be, you know, kind of fast and relentless and they got be smart and sharp dialogue and you know, great delivery. It's like Ray in the sinners sequence at the church based off that iconic video meme of the guy. I'm not gay no more. Iin't gay no moreore. As soon as I saw the suit in the trailer, I'm like, oh my go, they're referencing that, which is smart Yeah, Yeah. it's like it's a piece of pop culture that, you know, U that I knowew about and I think was so interesting that these for whatever reason these things blow up online and the culture just picks up on them. And you know, they had the fantastic idea of having to introduce Ray again and, you know, be deliveredally half. That's right. That's right. That was actually his first day too. That was the first day we shot And that was just such a fun scene because I had never directed Sean before. I directed Marlin quite a bit. But Sean is, you know, different, he's little more laid back and funny in a wholly different way. And Sean got out there and just started going and he had so many like little. of that you know, a lot of that run was Albs that he added to the script. He had all these ideas that he was coming in with He told me,' like how all these ideas and I'm like, that's awesome. I'm like, don't tell me just fucking go up here and'ss get it live. I think that was the funniest scene for me is the church sequence and him just like the going back and forth like. I'm coming in, I'm coming that was I was crying laughing Yeah hysterical man. Yeah, I was excited for that scene for one I'm a fan of sinners and to kind of visually evoke sinners. Yeah And the car coming in really cool church. Yeah, same kind of crane shot, you know, same kind of car Pulling back on the church, coming through the doors, cameraas always moving. Yeah, a lot of that was a lot of fun. And then to have you know a guy like Deion Cole come on and play the pastor and you know, come. That was another piece that you know, that was built up, but we really kind of ran with and just did so many different versions and had so much fun with that But to get up there and just have him a riff and also in front of like a good amount of extras is always exciting because they're having a lot of fun Yeah because it's like they're watching a stand upp show, you know, having a blast. Do you get Like comments or do you meet people of the creates the creatives behind those kinds of movies that you've done, like the directors or the writers and do they say like I love what you did? That was so funny. Is that ever happen to you? I haven't,ude C callall me guys. Yeah Kugler. I wonder pit me up.. Let's go. Let's on the phone. I'm sure have to think'ssterical, honestly. I hope so. I do know that Ali Loei, who's president of Mirimamax films, she produced the substance. And so when we were doing the stuff in our movie, she had talked to the director of the substance and apparently she was thrilled. and thought it was so cool and so fun. Another friend of mine worked with the director from Hard Eyes and when he saw the trailer apparently, he was like super stoked that you know Hard Eyes is in the movie. And so it's great. You know, it's us showing affection, you know what I mean? It's like It's like if you're on the Simpsons, likeike if Yeah, that's hute for me if I was a director in I got spoofed in scary movie, it'd be like the highlight of my career. Like that'd be amazing. It's just like it's so irreverend and timeless and it's just like kind of like special. It really. I agree. This episode is brought to you by Street Easy. Here's the thing. Wanna be the grandparents who bolted to the Burbs or the cool relatives still living in NYC? the city that people come to to be at the center of everything With twenty years at NYC know how, StreetEasy has the tools, agents, and guidance to make you a forever New Yorker too. Visit streeteasy d. com to buy a rent in NYC. Street Easy is an assumed name of Zillow Inc, which has licenses in all fifty states This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling? 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I enjoyed that movie. That was a fun.. But yeah, I don't know, you know Maybe there'll be a scary movie seven. That would be fantastic. I hope so, man. Yeah you gre up on horror just loving horror in general I grew up looving movies. Horror was definitely part of it. I just love the escapism of movies. My grandmother was probably the only person I know that loved movies more than me. And she would take me to movies like every weekend. We'd go see two, three movies on a weekend I'd go to our house and we'd rent movies, but we'd rent like four. and we'd watch them all Friday night And I'd take themem back on Saturday and get like three more. And so yeah, I just loved movies. I loveved storytelling. I loveved the hero's journey and seeing these heroes. And you I grew up luckily, I grew up in the eighties and nineties, so I think it was just a booming time for popcorn film Yeah It was really cool. I have older brothers, so like I'm a nineties kid, but I got so much eighties movie in my life. Right. Every time we go to Bockbuster wed the same thing get four movies at Blockbuster. But I was exposed to film so early, like I could sneak down in the basement and watch these movies with them and like I remember child's play tormented me from age like four. still a little bit today, a little bit with Chucky is still not a fan. he still freaks me out But I was exposed to the eighties movies and just classic horror so young I loved it. Yeah. And there were so many good ones too. Like I said, like I mean, Freddie Kruger and Poltergeist and Texas Chainsaw and Michael Myers. I mean, these things gave me trauma growing up. I can remember sneaking and watching Hterge Yeah. And then from there on, I could not sleep with my closet door open. It's a terrifying film. And I love it because it's so even Spielberg didn't make it. He kind of still very much made it. So when does a Spielberg and feel like he ever made a horror movie that's like what it was. Yeah, for sure. And you know, speaking of Spielberg, I mean, that's what I mean. I got to grow up in where that guy was making some of the biggest, greatest movies of all time. I just watched Jaws with my daughter, who's fourteen my God last week. And she loved it, you know, it held up and she really enjoyed it. But I mean, you know, Raiders of the Lost Art Yeah, you know, the whole series, I mean, ET. the guy just makes amazing films. was I was just hooked from the minute I watched his movies and the way that he just masterfully tells stories through camera and through movement and his wonders and how he introduces, you know, like mister Keys and ET. and you're just watching the keys and this, you know, mystery figure for literally half the movie, and then finally you get to see him and just the way he can build anticipation is so cool He's a genius with the blocking. Every time I watch thepielberg movie I'm just obviously, I've seen them all so many times. I'm always just so fascinated by the blocking. Yeah. What he's doing with the camera? likeike you're saying the visual language and I was so lucky. I got to bring this up again at br this up like five times in the show where we got we got see Disclosure D day like three weeks ago in New York and I got to ask him a question and I asked him about his blocking specifically and he mostly talked about disisclosure day, but he he's very improvisational with his blocking. likeike Stave in Private Ryan, he had storyboards but he threw them out. as like they're figuring out. The storyboards obviously focus on's Dunts for safety. You know, makeake sure everyone's on the same page. But he said when he's doing a onener he's with the characters, like the actors themselves are infusing a lot of what to do with the camera because it's like they're trying to make sense for the character of like how they'd move through the environment. So he's working collaboratively like comedy trying to figure out what this amazing blocking is going look like, and I loved it. Yeah, that's fantastic. And you know you to you have to made some movies to, you know really I think it's interesting. The more movies you make, the more confidence you have. and the less you need a storyboard. And like you said, storyboards are really for being able to communicate your vision to the other departments so they all know what's going on They can then help you execute at a more efficient level so that you can get everything you want. And you know, I think it totally makes sense that when you get out there on set, like you don't get to really go to set and on you know get on the location and get all those actors and they start putting all their input in. I could see how, you know it'll inspire ideas for camera and how to evoke the emotions that you're trying to capitalize on through each moment And I think it's just another way of, you know, I mean, he's so good at foreground and background and, you know, subtle moves and then revealing things. I mean, he's the master. Every I mean, everything's in focus when he makes a movie pretty much That's because he's got a badass team. D works with the best the legend. I love his films. That's That's the advantage of climbing the ladder in Hollywood. You get to work with, you know, great teams You know, his focus poer is just nailing it. That's a job I do not would never want. It'sough everyvery time I watch a focus Pro, I'm like I don't want I don't that responsibility. Yeah, I get nervous for him, you know, And I get guys that are just sitting over there going, I'm good. And they nail it and you're like, damn, he is good. Are there any u recent horror movies that you still want to spoof, not new ones this year, but like Big successes are culturally significant films, I think, like aQiet placelace, likeike you wouldd love to spoof or like even a solo movie, you could do a Quiet placelace or put into a scary movie. Yeah, you know, I really liked Hredity. I liked ye, that was great. Quiet placelace is fun. It's hard because then you start thinking like how do I incorporate the alien aspect into that horror movie and make it feel organic But yeah, there's a lot of psychological thrillers out there too right now that are just interesting. I'm trying to think of the last I guess Hredity and also midsumers I was say midsummers, yeah. Midsummmerers was fantastic. All his movies are so interesting, you know, visually and the story, but there's a lot of you know, dynamic horror films out there to pick from. so Were there movies in this? S scary movie that you tried to get into the film it just didn't make it. U Or like a character or bit that didn't make it. Yeah Yeah. I mean, there's definitely moments that didn't make the movie. I mean, we have this moment with Cindy pulling up to the house and getting wasted in the car. that was really funny. and it just kept kind of unfolding as it went from you know her drinking a little shot to a bottle of wine to pulling out a blender and making a margarita and then opening the door You know, something else happened. So those were really fun beats, but yeah, just didn't have room. How exciting was it to work with Regina Hall coming off Oscar nomination one bat after another She huge right now and to bring her back. And obviously, I think it only works with them two together. her one hundred percent. I mean, they're like Regina, first of all, is just fantastic. It's the second time I got to work with her and every time is even better than the first. And she's just so funny. Again, just highly collaborative and smart. likeike she just brings adlbs from out of nowhere and you're like, o my God, you're hilarious. And she just knows Brenda so well, you know? And she does such a good job with that character because Brenda's a sociopath, you know she's gonna to throw you under the bus and then drive over and back over you. But somehow she pulls that off while also like making you love the character with heart and you know, only she could do that. Candnyman too, like I feel like that was something that I was always curious why it never made a scary movie before because it's such an ic villain, right? I don't think Candyman's ever been in a scaryie? No I don't think has. Yeah, That's a good question. I don't know. They might' have been sleeping on that one. Yeah I think so I mean there's so many movies to pull from Yeah, but I mean, as terms of like classic monster, but also because it's been remained recently, but so many movies have been remained recently. Yeah., that's what we liked about it. We saw the remake and thought it was really cool and it was interesting and it was fun. And you know the guys had this really funny idea of how to set up the weapons with you know Candy Man coming and delivering candy with drugs and you know subverting those expectations. Yeah, and I thought it was a blast to shoot it. It was really funny and I like designing that set too and you know, having all those moments. Yeah. Would you want to bring other classic IPs back? Is it possible? or do you think it's like more focusing on the modern stuff to get the audience attention? Like tackling another franchise or. brought like E exercist into it, even though Exrcist can be rem madeade again anyways. Yeah because they did exercist in Three. Or the opening of two with the priest sequence? Yes, y straight. Yeah two. But I wonder like, can you bring Freddie into the movie? Can you bring like Chucky back? But are they culturally as relevant as they used to be those?? Yeah, I don't know I think it would be challenging to do something like a Freddie. I think you do need that kind of updated version of Candyman where you know, it's reintroducing it to this generation and kind of hopefully becoming part of the culture again. So I think that's a challenge. Maybe though with some of the classics, you know, like a Freddy whose character is just so iconic, I definitely think you could wink to him and have a scene where you incorporate him in there. but I don't know if that could become like the scream or I know what you did last summer which really become kind of the spine of our movies and kind of drive us through the plot Is that why you want to go back to those two kind of like even the ending of the movie referencing very much the first scary movie in the firstverse sccream in such a strong way? Yeah, well, I mean, Scream was satirical in itself. We just, you know, they took it to the extreme by making it a parody and making it really funny. And I think it was somewhat playing homage to the legacy of the movie and incorporating Scream again. They also were doing exactly what kind of lent us to, you know, introducing a new audience, right by bringing in younger cast members. So that really that whole legacy rebotacle that was happening there worked well for us. and yeah, we use that to, you know, drive it. I think What was fantastic was the guys knew the ending of the movie immediately in a sense of, you know, we're doing this get our fucking franchise back. And what I love is online, people are like, dude, that's like a stronger reason than Scream seven. Exactly. So one hundred percent. I agree. And the sccream mov is like, how can they keep connecting this to Sydney ver and over like you're running out. It's tough. it's tough. It's getting challenging. especially becausecause their plans for what was originally gonna be The sequel to six obviously changed so much and they brought Nev Campbell back, which you need in a scream movie. Yes. And obviously you have that great joke in it. Like Yeah scream without Nev Campbell sccream sixix. Exactly. So no, it's terrific and I just love the ending Honestly, then seeing Anthony Anderson in a cameo kind playing kind of playing along with it too. Th then Shq shows up. So like it's kind of like a full circle. It's like I don't know if everything's forgiven but's like, everything's in its right place. That's right Yeah, it is. We really wanted to incorporate And kind of, you know, make a nod to the other scary movies that we don't talk of. But they do exist. They're out there. They're not as fun as one in two. They're not. No. But But yeah, and Anthony is fantastic and a good friend of Marlon and the Wands and you know, he was willing to come out and then Shaq, you know, just so funny to work with. I mean, he's the whole time he's like We were talking about him getting stabbed and going down on the ground. and I' like I got to double so don't worry about that. He's like no dude I'm do. like No. I don't want you to get hurt. He's like, I've been falled on hardwood for thirty years. I was. And I was like, Okaykay, I couldn't stop him. He had to do it. He took the fall and everything. It was really fun. But he was so good and to have to, you know, see Marlons sweat because he had to do his impression of Sack in front of seven foot something Shack. I was like, this is going to be interesting. and yeah, it was really funny M, Shaq must be so funny in first because he's such a strong personality, always has been. And I'm growing up watching the Lakers. I mean I'm from Boston. Yeah. so beat LA. but still you gott to respect what they were doing back. Oh hell yeah. so much. for Sh was just such a personality. Yeah, know, he's an icon himself for sure. and just an absolutely super nice guy, man was there to work and only had a very small amount of time with him. so he was very focused and he was very funny. and yeah he killed it. There wass a Kazam joke, right? There is a Kaz joke in there. Yes That's like That's why they kill them because for never forgave them for Kazam. And I love Regina, another amazing ad lib. She's like, I hate that movie too. You know, She's just so smart. I remember watching that as a kid and I was, I don't know, like eight when it came out and I was like, I want to like this more than I should because Shaq's the man. L how can you not like Sq in a movie? It's got to be great. How' did you get into filmmaking? Was it something you always pursued growing up Yeah, you know, I definitely just fell in love with movies and, uh Honestly, I was an artist growing up and I first really kind of gotten the idea watching HBO's, you behind the scenes, the making ofs, and seeing how movies were made and thinking, just falling in love with like HR Geiger and aliens and all the behind the scenes and the sculpting of these aliens. And I thought, oh man, maybe visual effects is something I want to do, like special effects and design these things started kind of thinking of that, and I was like, yeah, but you know, it'd also be really cool to know work the camera and do that. That would be really interesting too. But then I'd also like to do this. and it just kept kind of growing until I realized like, no what I want to do is direct these movies. I want to tell these stories. I want to be able to help you put departments together to accomplish all these ideas and bring them together And then it was just about, you know growing up like in the eighties and nineties, I think my fine art and computers kind of merged. And I love the idea of editing. And I made a movie in high school and it was just the idea of being able to you know, run out this door and be somewhere else and not tell a lie or you know to evoke this idea was The magic behind it all just I just was so into it. And the visuals of movie making was fantastic. And you know you had Star Wars and you have sci fi and you had these action adventures and you have Jurassic Park. and that really reminded me and kind of tied me to like my artistic background. And then just telling these epic journeys. And I got to grow up when Tom Cruise was making movies, you know, and Maverick, topop gun, dude.ah man. That movie like was so impactful on my life growing up. And all of Tom Cruise, I mean, I saw Maverick cocktail, you know, risky business. I was like, okay, so I want to throw some parties. I need to drive a motorcycle, maybe fly a jet at some point. now I' definitely gonna be a bartender Doid you see talk in theaters? Oh yeah. Oh my God, that must have been insane. Yeah, I had a hat. started going to air shows. Did they have the Navy recruiting outside the office I don't remember, but if they did, I'm sure I would have talked to them because I was on board. They got a lot of recruitments from that movie. They did. I mean I see I saw Top Gun growing up twenty five times, right? the original But then I finally saw it in theaters for the first time. They did the rerelease last month and it was like seeing it for the first time. And I love Tony Scott's movies. huge fan of that guy. L I love Crimson Tide. I love Man onn Fire. and he's such a special talent. D owned artistic style for him. One of my all time favorites. I mean, really just him and Ridley. You know what I mean? And And you talk about Man on fire, like the hand crank camera and the style Oh that's one of the best revengeue movies of all time. It really is and with that movie, it's so kinetic and frantic with the editing and the visuals that they're doing with it. It's just like only a fucking genius Aor could do something like that because no one makes movies like him. Same thing with Ridley, Ridley, he's still one of my favorites of all time and he gets a lot of flack later in his career. I don't know why But I still think he's got it and I can't wait to see what he does. He's got a new movie coming out. It's a post apocalyptic survival film. I just saw the trailer for a week ago It looks sick. Jacob Mord's in it. And then I hope he makes glladior three because I like the second one. But the first one's one of my all time favorite movies. Oh, yeah, the first one was, I mean, top yeah, it was amazing. you know the wheat pututting the hands to the w Every time I walk by grass or weed I to do it. Yeah. I did it in I did a movie called Baked heavenly highigh with Dexter Gardin, and you know we were doing this moment where he ends up getting transported to this basically valjalla of marijuana. And there's a shot in there where he walks by all these weed plants and he just puts his hand past the leafes just like Gadiator, and I totally was kind of doing that can. No Ridle's legend. He' still got it But yeah, Alien up there for me. Blade Runner. I mean, imagine making Alien is your second feature. Blade Runner is your third? Yeah, it'sant I mean, the dude is a badass. Making Legend with Tom Cruise out of nowhere I know. Dude and Legend, that movie does not get enough credit. It's a trip. The makeup design, the horns Tim Curry, right? Tim Curry is his voice You know, it's like and Tom Cruise running around in, you know, this gold mesh kind of outfit and dude, was that's a fantastic movie. I love fantasy films. Those are like someomeday, I mean, I want to make every genre. I'm greedy. I am, I'm greedy, but I would love to like make a world building, you know movie, maybe a comedy is in there, you know, of course, somewhere But to be able to do fantasy films like the Dungeons and Dragons that just got readed. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. That movie is awesome. Like I had I saw that movie. I was surprised at how like because you never know these days so many studios, the IP driven stuff, sometimes it hits, sometimes it doesn't. we were getting some very mediocre ones for several years straight. But then I went to Dungeons and Dragons with no expectations and had a fucking blast. I had a great time with that film. Yeah, it was so good. It was so good And then you have, you know, of course the Game of Thrones on TV, that's probably why you're not getting more movies right now is because you have television shows like that that are done so well. But yeah, Tony Ridley, there's some great filmmakers. I mean, you talk about Alien, then you look at Alien too and you got James Cameron Yeah, you know, which I love Alien for the the Slasher horror sci fi movie, Alien movie that it is. and I love Alien two for the action packed kind of popcorn that he brought to that movie. And I mean, James Cameron, that's another guy who's just iconic. I mean, all of his movies Terminator, Terminator two, the Abyss trrue lies that I would love to get my hand on something like a true lies. I would love to see him G back to live action at some point. because I mean, Avatar has always made this entire century and I mean, you can't deny the guysy made such a huge impact in push the bounds with his teams of what visual effects are capable of. L because of that, we're going to get so many great movies in the future. But with James, I would love to see him go live Not that the Avatar films still have live action, but they their majority visual effects because I got to I got to meet him last year and I got to plug this because it was so cool. And I got to go to his studio Manhattan Beach and basically it was on set. They like like they set up the whole production of like they were shooting a scene. they had people in performance capture. show us how he shoots the movie. and it's incrediblely He just what he has a director's monitor that he does all the camera work of and captures it right there like that sometimes I'm going to be a crane, then he moves becomes a crane It's really incredible to see what they've built and shoot the entire film in one sound stage. Yeah. But I want to see him go back to live action because of what he did with The movies that we love so much, I mean, Terminator two has got to be the best action movie ever made. So good. Still. suchuch a great soundtrack too. Aazing doom, doom, doom boom, that driving drum. Yeah, I agree. I mean, look, he has always been pushing the bounds of technology, whichich I think is so cool as a filmmaker because he's creating new technologies that is allowing us to tell stories in new ways in different ways. And I applaud him for that. And I definitely think he's committed because I mean, when I think about, you know, sccary moovie or Hunted House O, Hunted House two, or doing five movies of the same movie, that's a lot. That's a lot of work and a decade more of your life.. Yeah, I'm a little greedy too. I'm like, James, you Love Avatar, but come on, man. Let's do like true lives part two. imagine? comeome on. that Arnold's coming back in a big way. He's gonna to do the new Conan movie. Yeah, I know. What's the name? Conan, the something? I think it's the not the destroyer. it's the King I think it's the King C King K Conan. I think's K Conan. I can't wait that.,'s gonna be so. Holy crab is so interesting because I had Dahl Flunren on the show two weeks ago and that guy's career stacked. But it's so interesting with all these guys from the eighties and nineties, whether it's Stallone, Swarzenegger, even Dolph who was the original punisher All of their movies are getting remade right now. Yeah. There's there's Rambo' getting remade.. I wrote Rocky I play Rocky, the story of howouse Sly got Rocky madeade. We have a couple Arnold movies getting done over again. so it's like I don't know what it is, but because those movies are so good and whether a lot of Holl ideas are original out there in Hollywood right now, but like these great stars from the eighties were just doing all their shit over again. Master of the universes, we're doing it again. I mean, for eighties and nineties kids, it's the best time to be alive. Seriously. I mean, I don't think it's ever happened in the film industry Even sccary movie where we're taking a movie from twenty five years ago. And we're bringing back to the original cast and basically making a new version. I mean, no one's ever, I don't think it's ever happened in Hollywood where you get to get those origin, you know, the leg actors Yeah are around for thirty years and then get to go back and reprise the roles in a complete I mean, look at topop Gun and then, you know, now the newest topop Gun I mean, I thought it was just so exciting to be able to go back and that nostalgia factor from your heroes from your past are still around and get to experience that again is just fantastic. It's kind of confirmation that our era was the best era in the nineties and two thousands.inite eighties, but also for sure. I think Maverick was the first time I fist pumped in a theater. L when Topa Maverick, the opening sequence