New Rules and Political Violence

Le playlist anni 90 ti fanno cantare a squarciagola, quelle anni 80 ti fanno scatenare con il loro ritmo unico. Ma ce n'è solo una che ti fa risparmiare. È la playlist S Lunga 30, 40 e 50. Fino al 7 giugno ti aspetta una lunga selezione di prodotti a prezzi incredibili come olio extravergine di oliva Crio. Scontato del 40%. Frosciutto cotto alta qualità gran biscotto robagnati. Scontato del 40%. Sei pronto a scatenarti? Le offerte S lunga. Ti aspettano in negozi online fino al 7 giugno, welcome to an HBO Podcast. From the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Ma. Thank you very much, people. How are you? Okay . Thank you, real-time regulars. I appreciate it . Thank you. You sound like a great crowd . And And I know why you're happy . Great news, peace at last. We have an agreement, a deal, a peace deal. Not the Iran War. Blake Lively and Justin Baldone. That's all I'm talking about Oh . Man, were you reading about this for like the last year went on there? All this arguing ensuing, and then it turns out no settlement money at all. Just end uh over a movie called It Ends With Us that Everybody Hated . Did you see that movie? It was harder to get through than the Strait of Hormu z . Oh yes, okay, well the war, okay. So we are officially ended with Operation Epic Fury and now we have moved on to Project Freedom, which is also over . Really? No, I'm not kidding. That was Project Freedom. That was our attempt to escort the ships through the Strait of Hormouths where there are now 1800 ships stuck. Last person who needed this many escorts was Hunter Biden. So But uh Iran, yeah, they are blocking the the strait and they say they're gonna collect tolls now of all the ships and Trump is furious. Furious that he didn't think of at first is what he's So it's uh it's a game of chicken, and Trump said he wants the Iranians to know America does not blink. Lose interest and wander away? Yes, we do that all the time, but we don't. But we kinda have to. We kinda have to, because we've uh apparently used up all our missiles. Yeah, they found our not all, but our stockpile is greatly depleted. Uh this is so ridiculous. America, the most strapped country in the world, ran out of bombs. It's like Diddy running out of baby oil. I mean And oh but let's not be gloomy. It's Mother's Day on Sunday. Do you have Mothers? I had one. It's very common. And of course there's a baby boom over at the White House. You know this that in the administration, a lot of people having babies over there. And for the press spokesman, you you've seen her, Carolyn Levitt. Yes, she just what at what timing? She just had a baby and they asked her, you know, are you excited to be a mom again? And she said, what a stupid question. Do your research. Of course I'm excited to be a mom . Now listen . If you are old enough to be watching this show, uh you were born when your mother could have an abortion. She had the right to have an abortion. And that is not the case anymore, really, in a lot of this country. So maybe when you write a card this year, say, thanks, Mom, you could have killed me and you didn't. Oh, and uh Speaking of killing, uh apparently they found Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note . Yeah, what uh uh apparently it was from the guy, his cellmate, who uh Epstein says tried to kill him. But he's the guy who found the note . Uh and it says they investigated me and then in all caps it says found nothing, three explanation points. What does that sound like? I I I can't quite place it. I uh no I'm not suspicious. I'm not suspicious, but the note does end by saying thank you for your attention to this matter? Okay . Good news for Gen Z. Uh we may be wearing masks again. Well because you heard about the cruise ship? There's a cruise ship out there that has Huntavirus. Well probably this is nasty. Three people have died, Huntavirus. And uh the first report said there was uh a flight attendant who got it from the passengers. Boy, suddenly spirit doesn't sound that bad, does it? But no. But no, this flight attendant tested negative, which is good news because it would be ironic if the flight attendant uh had hantavirus and the cure was peanuts. All right. Uh we got a great show, Representative Dan Crenshaw and Don of Brazil are here, but first up, he is a Democratic Senator from Pennsylvania and he is my friend Senator John Fetterman is over here . John Well hello again. All right. All right . John, you're wearing your good black. Did you have a speech? Yeah, yeah. Did you have a speech on the Senate? Did you have a speech on the Senate floor or something where you had to look your your best? No. I like your outfit. I do. So I read your uh op ed today, I think it was, in the Washington Post. Um and it's interesting because we often find ourselves sort of in the same place politically, I think. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, you you use the term increasingly lonely. You said you feel increasingly lonely as a Democrat. Do you wanna unburden yourself and tell us about that ? Yeah, well I mean some people think it's like a glamorous life, and it is not, at least uh for me. You know, we have uh plainly. From a lonely perspective, uh, you know, things that used to be part of our values here as a party, uh that they're gonna shifted now whether it's like specifically Israel and the Jewish community and now also the border security and then also recently the two longest shutdowns uh in history, and I've you know had to vote against uh the caucus. I don't I don't enjoy that, but we used to be the party that would always refuse to shut the government down. Um and now we now have shut it down and dropped a lot of mass chaos and I just couldn't be a part of that. Yeah, I think uh we get the same uh charge levied against us that we're picking fights with the left. We're not picking fights, we're just not avoiding them. I I mean you you used the term an orgy of socialism recently, you said that you what you see what you see in the Democratic Party. I do too. Yeah, well I mean you have whether it's like the mayor in Seattle. I mean, she's absolutely a a socialist uh in New York and a lot of these candidates uh across the country, and that's really moving towards that. And people that are proud to be labeled as a socialist. That used to be like was a smear when I was running my first cycle. And now that's becoming more normalized. And now I think that's a very dangerous slippery slope for us to be. And now I've spoke to people that had to live under socialism andor communism. And they are like they are morons if they think that socialism is the answer. You know, I've lived under that and thank God we are now. We already have a great deal of socialism, and I've made the point a million times on the show, as we should. All Western democracies are quasi-socialist. There are certain things that the government should do. You don't want the private enterprise to be controlling the Marine Corps. And you Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, obviously these things. We we have socialism. They're just proposing something way more than that. And by the way, you said socialism, dirty word. Yeah, yes and no. What really was a dirty word, which isn't anymore, is communism. Yeah. I mean, this woman in New York who is mayor and Mandami's right-hand woman , she tweets out, elect more communists. Um this guy, Graham Plattner? Yes, the the Yeah, it's not a slur if I defer uh if I refer to him as a communist Yes. Antifa and these other kinds of extreme things. Now that's his own words, that's not that my view, and I'm not using that as a slur. But but but the idea that communist is not a dirty word, I think we need to pause here and say, okay, this is a a watermark, this is a a watershed mark, a moment in American history, where we should pay atten tion. And my guess is because AI is going to be taking everybody's jobs, communism is only going to get more popular. I I sure hope not. Because you know, like the the if our party it's like that it's that expression, you know, bad ideas refuse to die. And now that's coming back and a lot of this the the Trump and the black the backlash is making more and more things possible in the Democratic Party. And I'm gonna consistently gonna resist that kinds of extremes, and those extremes that cost us in 2024. We all have to remember that we need to have an election against both sides. We're accountable for both sides in these in these kinds of uh states that really depend the to deliver for the presidency. And that's why I refuse to be uh an engage. I know I know how to pay the bills as a Democrat right now and my colleagues and people that are running uh whether for the Senate or the House they are literally running on fuck Trump. I mean that's literally they have campaign uh commercials that and it's it's it's absurd. And we are getting to that point and I refuse to engage in that extreme uh those terms. Uh we have to find a better way forward and uh I've been punished to try to find value in certain views. Now like for the ballroom, you know, we've talked about that. I don't care about the ballroom. I don't either. Yeah, I mean it' its's so stupid. It's it's a Rorschass test of whether you just hate. Because first of all, like we saw with the uh assassination attempt a couple of weeks ago, w America probably does need you know what the problem is? I said it to you the other day on the podcast, which I think is on next week. It's the word ballroom. It sounds ballroom. Sounds like you know, fops or pirouetting around. And and it's just if they called it the uh state dinner national center, it would be different. But this is America. And we're not people sitting in tents to have dinner. I mean it's just it's just I mean, you know, I was I was two tables away at the at the White the White House correspondence dinner. I've witnessed this two . Two table from the killing? Yeah. From the attempt, you mean? Yeah. had to see that I'm like the entire line of succession was right there and realize that we've put put there's real danger there. We got really lucky there that for a lot of reasons. So now we need to have a more secured more secure for to do these kinds of events. But I don't care about you know like just build it. I mean he won't even be president when it's if it's even finished. Yeah. I mean concentrate on the big things. The things that really matter. So there's no there's no truth , right, that you're actually going to switch parties because I know Trump has offered you. I mean you said I would be a shitty Republican. Um yeah, I that that's you know and you know if I if I ever decide to change an With the Democrats. I thought we were supposed to be a b a big tent party. So that's I'm not really sure how I become uh an issue for any of the Democrats just the having some different views in these other issues. No, you've said you're said before you're you're pro-choice, you're pro-weed, you're pro-gay rights, you're pro-labor. Uh you also throw in there I'm pro-ribeye and not bioslop. I don't know why that has to go in there . That sounds like a great Republican to me. But yeah , what is your thing with with yeah I I I look and by the way, I don't eat I don't eat fake meat either. I mean my friends at Peter would love it if I did. But look, I mean the science is the science. I don't think that stuff is really better for you than organic real meat. I mean it's certainly not better for the animal like getting killed. But as far as the science goes, but you uh you actually want a band Yeah, I I just I just think uh I mean as I'm a member of the agriculture uh committee and I really stand with with our farmers now. And now of course we don't want like the factory farm situation and uh absolutely opposed uh a aminal cruelty. But for me, if I lived on Mars, yeah, you know, uh a those kinds of uh the kind of uh But you want to ban it? I mean shouldn't people have the right to eat it? I mean if if commu uh the people have a chance to to prep for that , but but oh but overall for for me, uh I I think you know someone that's really I mean we are just uh I thought you know the really highly, highly processed food. I mean that's exactly the essence of that. Yeah, but there's a lot worse highly processed food. I mean I could go into the supermarket and pick up Well, we don't want to ban all of that. People have the right to eat what they want, don't they? I mean, don't tell the population of America that they can't eat what they want. Well I mean overall it's not it's not a top priority for me given everything else that's happening right now. So but overall, as as someone as a committed Democrat, I find myself isolated by my party as things continue. Uh I'm gonna just have play, you know, balls strikes and just Yeah. Okay. Well, you know I'm your fan, because uh the Democratic Party certainly needs someone to keep them honest, and it's the ban in the shorts. Thank you, John I appreciate it. Alright, Don Federman he's gonna tower over me now. Alright, let's meet our panel. Thank you, John . Hello! Hello, Cooper! How are you? All right, he is a Republican congressman for a couple more months from Texas, author of the best-selling book Fortitude, and host of the podcast Hold These Truths with Dan Crenshaw, Representative Dan Crenshaw. And she's a veteran political strategist, ABC News computer and former DNC chair, Donna Brazil is over here . Okay . So the midterm elections are about six months away, and uh it usually happens the party out of power does well in the midterm elections. And the party in power right now is historically unpopular. Mostly because of what I call the three I's, that would be ICE, Iran, and inflation. And it would s it seemed only a few weeks ago, maybe months ago, that it would be impossible for the Democrats to lose this election. No way. Well, headline today. Way. There is a way. And it's because of what they do when they don't win, they cheat This has gone nuclear. And Republicans are winning the gerrymander war. We talked about it last week, but a lot has changed since then. As you know, it started with Texas, your state. Trump said gerrymander, Texas. Okay. So they got like four or five new seats in Texas. California responded and said, okay, we're gonna do the same thing. All right, so now we're this is a terrible road to go down, but at least we're even. Okay. Now the Supreme Court ruled last week on the Voting Rights Act. Everything is different now. Eight states have new new maps now, and five more are planning to. Texas, Florida, Ohio, Missouri, North Carolina, they're all now more Republican. These states that had districts that minorities were electing candidates from. Virginia did it on the Democratic side, and the the Supreme Court in the state said they can't. So that's a big loss for the Democrats. They're not going to get that to even the score. And Tennessee now . Show the map of the Tennessee. This is really what's going on here. Look at this. They've taken Memphis, a majority black city, and they moved it into three different districts to dilute the vote. Now, I'm going to turn this over to the former chair of the DNC for your commentary because I'm sure you have a lot to say. Well, first of all, it's always a great honor to be back here in California with Bill and congratulations on the Mark Twain Award. Oh thank you. Well I mean, you know, Bill, I can't keep up with you, baby. Every time I w I go for months, Congressman, without seeing this man and he makes all kinds of trouble. I have to come back in, clean up your shit. I mean talk about a desperate housewife. Come on, baby. Clean your own stuff up. But let me just say this, Gil. Let me just say this. The rumors that the Democratic Party is dead, those rumors are as old as Methusum. We have about 179 days. It's gonna be a tough election, no question about it. But you know what? We have a small tailwind. No, I do not like what's going on with redistricting. You know why, Bill? I come from one of those states that uh all of a sudden the Supreme Court said, whoa, we don't like partisan gerrymander. No, we don't like racial gerrymandering. So one out of three voters in Louisiana is a black voter. One out of three. And they're now thinking of eradicating . So that's as if people from some parts of Louisiana can represent New Orleans better than the folks who are representing or Baton Roodge. It's wrong, it's immoral, and it's unjustified. Bill, let me just say this. And and and and I saw what the Congressman tweeted today uh after Tim Kane. But here's it. I I'm old enough to do it. Well what do you tweet? I don't uh he's gonna have he gonna I'm giving I'm I'm gonna well he he's wrong . He's saying well the constitution is is they made it based on Conitusttion. They made it based on, they said, well the voters were already voting when the the state put this law into place so that the voters can decide. The voters decided in, as you well know, California, the voters decided in Virginia. But I I have one broadcast. Well, they've done it forever. What? Don't I know that bill? The Constitution . 1787. I'm gonna give you what Tim King won't. 1787 the Constitution. When did my family get the right to vote, Bill? 1965. 61 years ago. So my daddy served in war and could not vote for that. My grandparents, my grandmother was 77 when she got the right to vote. Yeah, I'm under the same. So we understand you on my side? Yeah of course I don't know. I I if you're on the side of the Conitusttion, you're on the of side democracy. So, uh Congressman, I will let you describe why you went into Tim Kane's ass today. Phrasing, you know, phrasing. I don't you know the anyway, he's the last ass I would go into. Cade Cade was he he was making the case that the Supreme Court doesn't know what it's talking about and that they they they're misreading. He I I pointed out that he should I know I know reading is time consuming, but you might read the actual uh case that the Supreme Court wrote. It's very well written, it's very logically written, it's pretty irrefutable. I mean it was a ten-to-one vote. They're making the case that simply the constitutional amendment was in itself unconstitutional because of the process they followed. That's what the Supreme Court argued. It was not about the ability to politically gerrymander. Let's start with like one principle just taking a step back here. That's how our constitu our federal constitution is written. If we'd like a better system and we're smarter than the founders, then we can figure out a better way to do that, but it's inherently political. Every state has a different way of doing it. Some have independent commissions or bipartisan commissions, even those are chosen in a political way, a political process. It will always be political, so just get used to it. Okay. But sec, but second, uh one one more thing to point out: to say we're we're winning Republicans, are winning the redistricting war, we're I think we're catching up . And if I can point to the facts on look, let's go to Illinois, you got a 14 to 3 ratio. Washington, you got a 10 to 2 ratio. New England has like a 21 to zero ratio. California out of 52 representatives, they're gonna have maybe five, six Republicans. You know, in Texas, we redistricated, we're thirty to ten. Florida's now gonna be twenty to seven. Like they're the Democrats have been winning this battle for a long time. Uh I I'm not sure about that. North Carolina. Ten four. Ten Republicans for Democrats. Ohio, ten Republicans, five Democrats. Texas, twenty-five Republicans, thirteen. In a state that is more argument of the right.. Correct Can I just show Let me just show you why does skin color automatically impose political beliefs? Because race has always been identified as a political consideration, not only as it relates to the Constitution of the United States, but also how it is implemented at the state level. That's why these districts were always drawn so that they took race into consideration. So that's my point. Yes. But why? Why why should enlighten society believe that? As I s you an enlightened society would not say that your skin color, an immutable characteristic, is an indicator of your political perspective. But this to me, this is always the problem with the Supreme Court. They don't really take into account practical effect. Remember the Citizens United ruling about as much dark money as you want in politics and Obama was at the state of the union and he said this is gonna change everything in a Lito mouth. No. Yes. Yes. Yes, it did. They don't take this into account. I as I said last week, I guess you didn't watch the show. They're not supposed to know that they're not. I know. But I said we're not living in the future. It would be nice if that was where. And we are way where way different than we were twenty years ago, fifty years ago. The world is very different. And I've I've certainly taken my shit from the left for pointing out constantly that they are hyper focused on race. And when they say things like, uh, racism has never been worse. It's just you're just ridiculous. But we are also not living in the future. Show this map, please. This is what the map could look like in the South, of what it used to look like. See those blue? Those are blue districts. This is what it's going to look like now. There are districts that have been carved out so that minorities are represented. For sure. That is racial gerrymandering. It has to happen until we are living in the present, uh and to in the future, and we're not. And if if you think that you gonna take away all these black representatives in the United States Congress without repercussions, I mean you take away that many and have them uh black people have scant repres rep representation in Congress, uh this is not gonna say the new governor of Florida is likely gonna be black. You know uh it there's this is uh white re white white Republicans are voting him in. Look, first of all, let me just say this. For for most of my childhood, I was represented by a white female, Lindy Box. She was outstanding, amazing. And when the moment came in history that she said, you know, I have served my time and this is an opportunity now to expand the the electorate, to give more people a seat at the table. Look, we have black representatives, as you well know, who represents largely white. I mean, we had Utah has had two blacks, not one. They're Republicans. And by the way, if you can elect more black Republicans, go ahead. I'll elect more black Democrats. We got a black Democrat out of Rhode Island. We got a black Democrat in Washington State. Ain't nothing wrong with being black and living in Nebraska or Kansas. That's okay. What I'm saying that in the South where half the black population reside. We should not be told that we no longer have a seat at the table. We did not, and this is my only thing. And Bill, I do watch it . I watched him on Friday night and I went on A I went on ABC on Sunday, hotter than July. So I say I gotta stop watching Bill because you you you really piped me up, baby. I didn't want to lose my job, you know. You piped me up. I I don't know. I said woo woo And by the way, nobody gave us a voting right. We bled for it. Okay. Well no you have to say about the Supreme Court decision here so that people are uh actu that are informed about it, is they they struck down this idea, and it is a and it's an idea, it's not written in statute. Oh, hello. It's an idea that there has to be majority-minority districts. That that was not in the voting rights ac There's nowhere in the city . You're right about the letter of the law. But you know what? Find a new law. That's why you have a whole Bible books behind you. Then write a new law. We got one the John the John Ju Lewis voting rights act and I hope you become a sponsor. We would love your support. If if if if the majority of the American people want this again, again, I I I would just I 'll baby. That's okay. How many how many kisses? Just one kiss? You mu you you don't want my foot. I'm okay . Look, we we support and by the way . When I'm not weird. I'm just Danny can't hear about me Okay? Hello, unless I'm in the kitchen with my apron on . It covers my things, man. Okay . Look, the voting Rights act ended all kinds of schemes that kept not just blacks bill, but poor whites. Think about the poll tax. Think about the literacy tax. Absolutely. So it was important that we struck down those laws and those rules so that we could have free and fair elections across the country. I am worried that we're all going to be able to go to the South and want to see the SEC play. Oh, we got black athletes, but they have no representation . Where is it? Oh, through the South. Who doesn't? I mean, you're gonna see black athletes playing this fall, throwing for LSU, throwing for Tennessee, Alabama, but no black representation in Congress actually. That's my point is you know I am very disturbed by this. I'm disturbed that we're tur turning back at the at a time when America's about to turn 250. I got my red, white, and blue gown, baby. You gonna take me to the gala I mean again the letter of the law is written for a perfect world. We don't live in that perfect world. I don't mean to speak for the black population that it's your job, but I'm just channeling it. Okay, I'm just channeling the the black folks I know. Uh they like white people more than they used to because we are nicer than we used to be. But trust us , no. And I don't blame them. So there's just a lot of black folks who are not gonna are not quite ready to vote for the white representative representative. They don't understand the uh their life as because we are still a divided country in many ways. Yes we are. I mean when my friend Killer Mike puts out an album I have to g read the lyrics. And even then I don't understand it It's a c no I'm I'm serious. I'm saying that's uh to make a point. It's a c if if that's the case, we're it's as it's as different from English as Chaucer is. And that's just pointing out that we are not quite living in the future. Well, if you want to start living in the future, you have to go back to original principles. And original principles say that immutable character is not a good idea. The original principle was slavery was illegal. Should not be an indication of your character. That's an original principle. That's a that's a foundational liberal principle. In a constitution where slavery was legal. So end it. I know. Because our because of our declaration of independence and the values, those original principles that we stated there. That was used as the argument against slavery by the Republicans. And look, maybe we need another period of enlightenment because I'm going back to all of those theories that gave us this so-called great constitution , this the Bill of Rights, and of course the Declaration of Independence. But let me just say this, as you well know, it took women almost a hundred and forty-four years to get secured the right to vote. And and and look, we just had to fight once again for a medication that is safe. Safe. The Fifth Circuit saying that we should not receive our medication in the mail. It's medication. And people keep saying it's abortion pill. Women need to have full access to the range of reproductive health care. No one should die having a miscarriage. Okay. All right, I have to move on. Um I have to move on because very important A couple of weeks ago, maybe a month ago, I did a whole editorial about aliens because you know think the the wor the world has changed now. I mean it used to be the people who were talking about it were not the most serious people in the world. And now they are. It is the most m serious people, military people. Th two movies, one is a documentary, one is the Spielberg movie that's coming out . They both use the word disclosure in the title. We seem to be at that place. Trump is on board with this. He keeps teasing that we are going to see the files. Well, today was the day they released a lot of the files . Now some of it is probably nothing. Some of it is interesting that I never heard before, like the uh astronauts on the Apollo seventeen flight saw things that they were talking about that they thought was strange. I mean, do you think do you think they were really there though? Oh, I don't know. But what I do know, and don't ask me how we got it, we got a hold of the absolutely of the stuff. Some of this hasn't even been released yet. Would you like to hear this is all about what we don't know about the aliens because I all right. For example , oh this so interesting right here. They never washed the anal probe. I I um What else? Oh, this is their central computer was once destroyed by the illogic of North Dakota getting two senators. That's um oh . Uh they don't reproduce through physical contact, just like Gen Z. Um sometimes after the anal probe they say, now do me . Oh . Very interesting. They did build the pyramids and also gave us the Bible, but only as a joke. Um , they refer they referred to the missing Malaysian air liner as our bad This is kinda sad. In the universe we're considered a shithole planet. I I I I I find uh oh they have over twenty seven different genders, five fewer than at NYU. Um and uh they don't say take me to your leader. They say wait this is your leader? And also, they want to know why the Michael movie left out all the stuff about kids. Alright. That's uh I want to talk about the Met Gala. I have never talked well . I thought you just were. I know. The outfits are pretty much the L I never talked about because I know I guess I never really understood it. Uh there was a lot of controversy about it this year, so I'm reading about it. It's actually a charity. You know, the the the show some of the people that I mean this happens every year, the celebrities show up and they're wearing just the most outrageous things. I just thought, oh, they're celebrities, they're fucking nuts, that's what they do. They just they're weirdos and they're attention whores and they just wear weird shit. I've seen them do it in other places. No, this is actually a charity for the cost ume institu te at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Okay. I didn't I never got it. All right. It's not like for poor people. This year there's a lot of controversy because it was currently sponsored by Jeff Bezos, uh spent ten million dollars for it, and they got very upset about this, the people I call the uh liberals in theory . Uh and some people said they weren't gonna go. Turned out just about everybody went. And I guess the question I'm asking is, the for the party that's always talking about money and have kind of made ha making money evil. Now, I do believe that there should be an upper number that we tax on that we you can't have more money than you know some of these people have over $500 billion . That's crazy. But I am the farthest thing from a socialist. I don't I think making money is good. Wanting to be rich is good. That's what part of what makes America America. We conform to human nature, which is greedy. But you can't have it both ways. I mean Beyonce was there. She's wearing fift she's wearing a fifty million dollar necklace and the Queen of Kalari diamond. Wow, I don't even know her. And I say you go girl. I know her mother, but Beyonce, call me. I think I need to help her. I need to help her. Okay. Okay. I need to help her. No, but no, she's a fabulous. But don't you? So they brand it. I know, they give it to her to wear. And I say good. I'm glad. Everybody should be able to do what they want in America and be as rich as they want. Not quite as rich as they want. I take that Don't steal my money though. Don't steal the taxpayers' money. I'm sick of that shit right now. Sick of it. Just too many grappy green people stealing our money. Well Well, I I was saying this the other week, you know, the problem is that when Bernie Sanders says millionaires and billionaires, it's so outdated. Millionaires? You know that one out of six households in America are millionaires? One out of six. So when you say billionaires and you lump them in, this is what I was complaining about. Please don't say my property value. Not right now, Burn it. I'm I'm a little claiming you don't pay a ta I pay a shit ton of taxes. Me too. It's it's the super rich who don't pay taxes. In fact, I call my husband Sam . He's a paper man. He I pay him. And by the way, Gladys , Miss California, just gave me four dollars back. I came on your show twice last year and I owe them money, Bill. What the hell's wrong with you? You you bring me out here to pay your taxes. Come on now. No, I I mean you're right. You'll love this. You know what, you know the Ike called the democratic capitalist. I said because I own my house. I mean shit, I grew up in poverty. I have I've earned my money. I've earned the right. I love my nieces and nephews. I've given them everything I can . I want to enjoy the rest of my life. Right. Okay? And but I also, here's, here's where Here's Bernie's point. Bernie believes that we live in two Americas. Two Americas. And it's it's wrong that one set of Americans can no longer afford the American dream. One set of Americans keep, you know, working har der and having to pay more. And the other said seem like the rules are working for them. So that's Bernie's point. He may not be talking in 21st century He's got to update it because millionaires, it's like saying here's a dime for the phone. Okay, it's a quarter now, and we wouldn't have those anymore. Well he's also I think he's just misrepresenting the truth, so he's got to stop doing that as well. So we just go from statistics, like where does federal revenue com fromes? You say they're they're not paying their fair share. Well, the top one percent pays forty percent of federal revenue, the bottom fifty percent pays three percent of federal revenue. So is that fair? Is that proportion fair? This is a of course is a subjective question. We actually believe in our country, and we have for a long time, that there should be a progressive tax system. It's one of the most progressive, if not the most, in the world, when you conclude state and local. So the rich not even it 's not even that everybody pays their their like 20 percent. No, the rich pay a higher percentage in addition to. So the the the idea that they're just not paying taxes is factually incorrect just by the numbers. So the question is then like what what is fair But would you say there should be a upper limit? In other words, if your personal wealth is worth two percent of gross national product. Shouldn't we have able to cap something on the upper lim it a trillion dollars? Why? Why do you think it was a checking account? That money's not a checking account, first of all. They're using that to buy. I mean f we're talking about Elon because I think that's the only person that even comes close to like how many companies and amazing things has he started, how many people have he employed, how many investments has he made? It's it's it's it's not like it's just sitting in a checking account . The guy's working twenty four hours a day. Like it you know and and also that top one percent is a very fluid group of people too. It's not the same people. It's somebody it's usually made up of new people who like sold their business that they worked forever to build and finally sold it that year, they get lumped into the one percent and then they're out the next year. And and wealthy Americans can afford accountants that can find those loopholes. They understand how to get tax breaks when they want to move their companies into a state and say, hey, if you you know make sure I don't have to pay property taxes for the next twenty years. Look, the system is not working. That's why so many Americans are right now disgruntled. That's why Donald Trump is underwater, even on his strongest attribute attributes. And we that's why're immigrants. Seriously, you're gonna close rural hospitals? You're gonna take people off of medicine. And meanwhile, we can't afford health care for average Americans working $65,000 a year. You can afford it. $2,000 more. No, Americ the American dreams should be affordable for all people. That's my position. And I still like the fact that healthcare is expensive because Obama Care made it expensive. It created a market that is that is completely unviable. I love that you believe narratives, folks. I love it. But it's not you gotta you gotta look at the facts and health care Well they have health care, but it is true that very often they can't use it. Because the the now part of that is because the Republic Okay. I mean they took out some of the ki I mean it was it was So uh until you have a replacement, we should keep what is working that keep America healthy and safe. Oh yeah. They're complaining all over the country. And it's not just health insurance. They're people are worried about their property insurance, they're worried about being able to pay for flood insurance, all of the things that we're talking why do you guys want to raise their taxes? We don't want to raise their taxes. Yes, we can't. At the same time you have wars after wars after wars and we cannot pay for it. We're about to raise the defense budget to one point five trillion dollars while we bring in new armament and new ammunition and new munitions. I want to change the subject. To this subject. Because I mean, the Pentagon budget, they're asking for a $600 billion increase. That is big. In an age when we are finding out, in the the from Iran from the uh war the uh uh Ukrainian war it's drones, baby. And drones are cheap. So what are we spending w I guess in c so it it's it's not as crazy as as it sounds one. But we're taking up to the fact that we're not sure nobody thought that they could fight Russia to a standstill. I didn't. I thought they were gonna lose that war. And they did. It's that is the nature of warfare. The Gatling gun comes along, machine guns come along, planes, tanks, and the the offense versus defense changes and war changes. We are at that moment now. It seems like we are financing the last war as well as fighting the last one. Um to make you feel better, we we absolutely are are investing a lot into drones, drones of all types, from from space down to the bottom of the ocean. Space is the new frontier. You know, China has known this for a while, that space is a warfare domain. We have refused to believe it for a long time, and there's finally investments in that space. And so a lot of this money is Golden Dome. A lot of this they which you know when back in Reagan's days and Star Wars, like the technology was not there, but now it is. But you gotta invest in it and put it up there. Um one of the reasons I've been in LA all week is visiting all these space companies that are out here . Because LA has one of the just has the ecosystem of labor that works in the space industry. It's it's flourishing. People like companies like SpaceX have obviously pioneered that. So a lot of investment in that, a lot of investment in paying it forward to save the taxpayer money in the long run. So instead of the stupid way that we often have bought weapons or new munitions, we pay more and more and more later because we tell we tell companies like, hey, we might buy some later, right?? And so what does that do It raises the cost of production every time. So no, put a fine like put an actual amount seven years out. So a lot of it is paying it forward and putting that investment in now. Um AI is another big one that you have to invest in. Uh ship building industry as well. So d that's that's the reason for that massive increase and it's it's not obvious that it would be to continue to be that. But Bill the the problem is it it's like a layer cake while you put on the bottom layer and then we got a top layer and another layer. Well, this is the bottom layer is gonna stay the same, which is about six, seven hundred billion dollars. And then we add another two hundred . I used to work on Capitol Hill and the defense budget, you know, it's like going to a jewelry store and you're like, I like that one, I like that one, I like that one. We need to have a new strategic framing for twenty first century wars and you're absolutely right. We can learn a lot from Ukraine, but we shouldn't keep learning and learning and learning as if the taxpayers can aff Thank you for all your spirited discussion. Time for new rules, everybody. All right . Uh new rule we should all support the police, but it does have its limits, like for this officer who was convicted of stripping naked and masturbating in a park. And I would just like to say to him, you keep your hands where we can see them. I would say you're a disgrace to the uniform, but I see you've sidestepped that issue already . Uh neural baroness, the longest verifiably measured wild snake in the world. Better not be Because if we go on a date and it turns out Baroness is really 23 feet four inches, I'm gonna be pissed . I said it in my profile. No games, no liars . Numero the next time a toddler gets stuck inside one of those arcade claw machines, the parents have to buy a couple rolls of quarters and try I don't pay thousands of tax dollars to have fire and rescue pull your kid out of a box. I pay thousands in tax dollars to have fire and rescue pull lost dumbasses off the sides of mountains. New rules since the Metball and the Kentucky Derby happened in the same week. Next year they have to swap outfits. The stupid ridiculous hats that people wear to the Derby, I want to see those on Kim Kardashian, Bad Bunny and Doja Cat . And at the Derby, the rednecks who love the animal abuse that is horse racing must come dressed like this . You're roll the winner of the European Seagull Screeching Championship must be referred to as the loser . Because anyone can screech like that. There's a homeless guy on Hollywood Boulevard who does it all the time. You want to prove you can act like a seagull, steal a French fry out of my hand while I'm eating it . And finally, no rule Luigi Mangioni , Cole Thomas Allen, Tyler Robinson, and the ghost of Thomas Crooks must form a boy band called New Kids on the Glock. Just to just to drive home the point, these are not your father's political assassins. Things have changed. For one thing, today's assassins have popular support with the kids. Up to 40% of America's young adults say violence is okay to achieve a political goal. Wow. Seems like five minutes ago when one of the big causes of the left was gun control I guess, because Luigi is a fucking rock star. He's the OG hot assassin. The young assassins coming up, even name check him in their manifestos. When this guy was arrested for burning down a giant warehouse, he said it was like when Luigi popped that motherfucker . Before this college student threw a Molotov cocktail at Sam Altman's mansion. He talked about Luigi ing some tech CEOs. And the asshole currently on trial for allegedly starting the big fire out here last year was Luigi's biggest fanboy . Good to see the kids have roll bottles, huh ? Another way this new breed of content creator assassins is different. They have jokes. Cole Allen called himself a friendly federal assassin and told his friends he was going to DC for a personal emergency. Wink w ink, his man his manifesto opens with, hello everybody. It sounded like that form letter I get every Christmas telling me how everyone is doing in a family I don't care about. Tyler Robinson wrote little jokes on the bullets he fired at Charlie Kirk. Things like, if you're reading this, you're gay, lol . I mean John Wilkes Booth was an asshole, but at least when he did the deed, he said something serious. Sick semper tyran us. Not I fucked your mom . Cole Allen took selfies before enacting his diabolically clever plan of running fast . You know, Cole, why do I think this is more about you than the cause? You're running through the metal detector, but maybe you're really chasing clout . Allen wrote that he was consumed by rage thinking about everything this administration has done. Yeah, join the club. Donald Trump is infuriating. I know this personally. That's why whenever I'm around him, I'm so nervous I need a drink right away. If you're doing that much rage thinking about Trump, you're not really mad at him. You're mad at your life. This is about being 31 and still living with your mom in Torrance. Life was supposed to come out better. This guy went to Caltech for Christ's sake. He dreamed of being a video game designer, but really was a substitute teacher. Do you think if he'd ever sold actually a video game and got rich he'd be doing this. Look, I feel for that generation. You guys grew up with the iPhone which fucks people up and now AI. No wonder you're always wearing a hoodie in the fetal position . Plus, as long as you can remember, the president has either been dead or this guy. So sympathy for you, yes. But also, it's always been thus. Sadly, your parents and teachers didn't prepare you for this, so you have no idea how hard or easy you have it. But because you're so entitled, you just assume you have it tougher than anybody ever did. You don't. In fact, your generation lives an historically easy life. You can get sushi or a weighted blanket delivered in hours. You can do you can do your banking sitting on the toilet. They sell weed in a store now. In a financial pinch you can sell pictures of your feet . Your biggest hardship is when the Wi-Fi And you have to briefly experience the 20th century . And yet you've convinced yourselves that your current level of discomfort justifies revolutionary violence. Cole Allen's life only sucked by his own unreasonable standards. He wasn't on welfare. He was on LinkedIn. For his assassination attempt, he stayed at the Hilton . If your assassination comes with Hilton honors rewards points Gen Z lives are not that bad. Most of our lives here in America are not. How we live right now, in the year we're actually living in, in the country we're actually living in, doesn't warrant condoning political violence. I can see it if you live under a truly oppressive regime, communism, fascism, hol Cicat ism . But that's not where we are now. You're not storming the beaches at Normandy. You're not standing in breadlines. You know, just like our no-kings, we had here, the protests. They also had them in Iran. But over there, the protesters got shot in the street. And yes, ICE did that too, twice. The Iranian thugs did it 30,000 times. Stop blaming America for all your fuck-ups. What this is really about for today's young assass ins is when life lets you down and doesn't properly reward you for being the awesome person you're sure you are , there's one big save left. Convince yourself you were meant for a cause bigger than yourself. And for Cole Thomas Allen, it was I'm fighting Hitler. And I get why that's a tempting thing to cosplay. If Trump is Hitler, then you're Tom Cruise in Valkyrie. Nobody trying to take a nap . I can just think it's her thompons It's a theme show, what can I say ? But Trump isn't Hitler, and you're not Tom Cruise. And you don't really live on the desert moon of an evil umpire. You live in Torrance. Which I understand is not exactly LA or London, but please, you're not in Haiti or Afghanistan, you're at Coachella. Life doesn't really suck so bad. You would just rather be a martyr than nobody. The whole tone of Cole Allen's manifesto was sorry guys, but America needs me. A hero has risen. You're not a hero. You're just the guy who runs out into the field during a baseball game to get attention and in 10 seconds gets tackled by security, except in your case, no, that's exactly your case. All right, that's our show. I want to thank Representative Dan Crenshad of Brazil and Senator John Federman. Club Morandom every Monday on YouTube. Or listen wherever you get your podcast now. Go watch Overtime on YouTube . Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. Catch all new episodes of real-time with Bill Maher every Friday night at 10. Or watch him any time on HBO on demand. For more information, log on to hbo.com.