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Serve smooth, craably creamy potato salads with mayo We all know it's not a cookout without craft. Hey everybody, what's going on? Rob, Sesrino. We're back. C wrong, episode thirteen, co Fing wrong. And we are revisiting a tough night for Joe Dell Campo and now a guy who's never backed up. It's Chappe Chaelle. How are you I'm good. try I try to remain regularular as yeah, you know for lack of a better word there, but no I'm ready. I'm ready to talk mayaybe I'm a little backed up. I'm excited to talk about this episode. Yeah. Okaykay. a lot to unpack here and I'm struggling myself now as I was ten years ago when I was doing the know it Alls and it's hard just to not go into all bathroom humor. Yeah, but I think now that I've watched it again, I can respect how painful it look like like this whole situation was. you know, Joe was pretty going a good face. I think Michelle says it more than one time.ike don I think it's more painful than he's letting on.'s multiple times where he's doubled over. I think we catch him mid aqua dump at one point too where he's just like sitting in the water and they're like Yeah Yeah. Yeah. but like why is he sitting in the water? Rob? You know don't I How often do we get a sllow shot very non tanned rear end at any point in this episode? No one' looking for it, but it's hard to miss as well with it being so white. And so yeah, I was like, Joe looks like he's like he's in pain. I think if they didn't want to metaac him, I think he probably would haveapped somebody on the shoulder be like, just take me out They do say that the formula for comedy is tragedy plus time. and I do feel it has been ten years. So it was maybe more insensitive in the moment to talk about this in Jest But I think Joe's doing great S survivors typically live a survivor If not you for her Yeah, I think I think survivor really ages the other way around. I think in the moment, a lot of shit's so funny on sururvivor and then years later you're like H That was crazy that we felt that way. This time, I don't really feel like we're being insensitive laughing at Joe and his bowels. I think he was trying to make light of it in the moment as well. You know, I think he said, can you make my booboo go away? I don't really think he was talking about like, you know a cut when he said that. So yeah,'s there's some comedy lace in there But this really is a survivor tragedy, right? We lose Joe and everybody' sad about it. I rarely at this point in the game, would you find somebody getting metaac and everybody would be like, dang, this sucks. I mean Aubrey is that probably for a number of reasons, but everybody else just seems genuinely upset because Joe just seemed like a very nice guy. Yeah. And it's hard because it's just so much of the episode where we it happens at an inoppportune time where we don't even get the immunity challenge in this episode. so we don't even know who would have been immune. We get the reward challenge and then we get the reward and then we get a lot of talking about what's going on after. Yeah and you we, you know, I think I think Aubrey She did she recently responded, you know to people commenting on her win. I think Boston Rob was the one who kind of prompted this comment where she was talking about how a lot of her win in Survivber fififty was lookuck Well, I think with sururvivor you have to take the good and the bad not to reference too much your your conversation with Lisa Welchell, but you know, you got good luck and you got bad luck sometimes. We saw Arby run into a lot of bad luck this season. And so It doesn't really bother me when someone like Aurey runs into a lot of good luck in Survivor fifty because There were so many things that had to happen exactly like this for Arey to be in the situation and for Joe to be getting out of the game. When we look at the immunity challenge, very simple challenge. Run, go get the beanbags, toss the bean bags If you land them all in the little spots, you win the challenge. It's very simple. It's not that like not that strenuous. There's a little bit of a run. It's very hot. You can tell Everybody runs out of their beanbags, Every single person runs out of them except for Joe gets he sinks these last two Final two bean bags. on his last two throws We don't even know what would have happened had he missed one. Do they start off?. So it was a weirdly constructed challenge. I think that this might be the last time they did this challenge. You had to go into the woods go into the forest and then pull down your beanbag bag, like a bag full of beanbags and then come back and then you got to throw. And you had basically like three bags of ammo But then once you were out Instead of going and go to go pick, I don't know if they were worried like that you would throw them and people would hit you, for whatever reason, you couldn't go pick up the ones you already threw. You had to wait everybody to go into the jungle and be done with their bags. And so Michelle, Aubrey, Sydney and Ty are all done And they're sitting there And it's like, well, okay, Joe' still got one more bag to go. And they're all just like milling about, like waiting for it was like the least exciting thing going on And then Joe comes back And he has he has basically he needs two more and he and he misses on the first three shots. and as you said, He has two bags left And he hits the furthest one and he hits the another one And he wins and it's if Sydney wins the challenge None of this happens Joe might not be there. If anybody else wins the challenge, there's a good chance Joe is not there. So that's the weirdest part about it is that they Joe had so many times he could have lost the, you know, they all have thrown. everyverybody has thrown the maximum amount of chances. This is the only only scenario where Joe Dl Kempo wins this challenge is exactly the way it happens. there's no way he edges out tie in the last second. We've seen it And how did go in all the challenges? Right. And this one is the one where If he like had he just missed, he might have survived to make it to the final Tvel cououncil. It's crazy that him winning this challenge is the death blow in his game because he will go to that reward challenge with Sydney and with Aubrey and Eat until he can't eat no more. You know, he's going talk about how, you know, you really eat meat like that. And he's down there eating beef kebabs and chicken kebabs until he just ran out of space. So yeah, it's wild that one little thing changes here and Joe Del Capo makes it to the finale It's wild. It really is It' crazy. He wins the reward. He's not even competitive in so many of these challenges. And this is the one that he wins. I think if Aubrey wins, she does bring him anyway But I don't think that he goes if Sydney or Michelle are Ty wins I'm not even I don't even know if I don't even know if Aubrey brings him. Look, so think about it like this If I'm Aubrey And I want to leave somebody back at camp. who's the least likely person for for me to like worry about coming coming up against me? It's Joe. Leave Joe there. He wouldn't even take it too personally probably because again, he don't really even eat meat like that. So you say, Joe, I know you don't like meat, you know, Jeff made sure to highlight that the reward was bee and it was chicken and it was cheesecake. You know, it was like, Joe, I didn't think you really wanted any of that You know, you go back and hold the fort down for me while I take these people, You know, leeave Joe with Michelle. You're fine. Leave Joe with Ty. You're fine Joe withinney, you're fine. He could have got left behind The only thing is, I don't know if he had been on any rewards and so that it might just be like some one of these things where it's his turn. Joe, I know you haven't eaten. you haven't been on any of these rewards. So it's possible he could have gone then. But it is just one of these things where just one thing changes and it changes the whole outcome of the season Yeah, Joe wins the challenge. He picks A Aubrey, of course, And Aubrey immediately tells him Pick Sydney You know, because she thinks leaving Ty and Michelle back at camp is perfect. They've been together since the beginning of the game and they seemingly are not on the same page after last night Tbal cououncil. it's clear that they probably won't create any type of bond that will be over to overtake because we know Ty has an idol, right? So we don't need Ty working with Michelle to pull off some blinds side on Aubrey So it's it's the perfect person to leave behind, but It would be nice to leave Jobod, you know, especially for his own health. It just who could have foresaw something like this happening? Yeah. And so they go on the reward and Joe is really hyping up Aubrey. He's like, bow, wow, you know, Aubrey is really the person to beat. No we're all just passengers. It's really Aubrey's game. She's the only threat here. and he's not trying to do anything strategically. I think he's just that's how he looks at the game board and Siddney is just like, yeep, you're right, you're right. mister Joe, absolutely. And she's like trying to mind her own business. I think that Aubrey clocks like, hm, you know what? actually now that I think of it. It's a bad idea to go to the g with Sydney Right. And it's crazy that again, Sidney, it doesn't seem like Sidney is doing anything to put this highlight on her. It's Joe talking up Aubrey. Aubrey's listening to Joe being like, I'm such a big threat I'm such a big threat that that Sidney wants to go to the in with me? Like she hears you saying this that she wants to go to with me. That doesn't make sense. Now what we get from Syidney is that y Cidney does not mind going to the in with Aubrey. Sidney looks like she's just all tapped in and go to the final three and she wants to speak her case. That might be hubris on her part or maybe just she hasn't watched a lot of the show and so she doesn't really know how tough that can be. Maybe she's broken down the votes and thought like, all right, if I get there with Joe and Aubrey, maybe in her mind she is going to win But she doesn't really see an issue with this. It's Aubrey, who's like, Yeah, mayaybe she left to end with T. you know Ty's really piss the people off. We were talking on the last time Mbe does Arey want to go to the end with Joe and Siddney and I don't know if she toed with that, but she's one hundred percent in this episode I want to go to the end with Joe and Ty. And I think that Tie started off very likable, but I think these last couple of tribal counsel performances really have madeade it clear Ty is a jury goat at this point. Nobody likes Ty. When Ty gets back from tribal counsel, he is very confused because he's like, all right I was clearly left out of this vote. I'm the only one who voted for Michelle, but I don't understand why y'all just didn't tell me. Why didn't you just let me know? I was like, well, you weren't taking the most diplomatic approach and people felt like they weren't being heard from you. She's hitting him with with the therapy speech. and he goes I get all of that But you still could have told me that you weren't coming with me. You know it's very simple. And I was like, well, you know, but she's trying to hm at haul like, well Ty, you were being unreasonable. He's like, do you think I was being unreasonable? Because if you had just said, we're not voting you with you, you think I waste my advantage, you know on Michelle at that point Uh and Aubrey's gaslighting him. She really is like, no, I mean, really you really that was no choice. It's kind of your fault that this happen Aubrey tells us a professional, no, I needed to take control away from Ti. and I'm so happy that we're doing this watch like this because I don't remember C wrong well enough to know that's what Aurey was getting at But last episode, I definitely thought that must be what it is, right? Ties can't be making the decisions and having the advantages and having the idol. You got to take something from them. And so she did this as a way to, you know, defang him a little bit And he's just confused because she won't admit it and he hasn't picked up that that's what she's trying to do. Yeah. And he's really hurt. He said that he feels like she pulled a fast one on him And she did. She did Yeah. She did She did, But he trusts her and she's the one he trusts the most in the game. You know, These are the type of allies that we've seen in survivor history that you don't want them on the jury because They have taken things way too personally, you know, just like the little blind sides are getting to him. I don't know if Aubrey could even trust Ty to vote for her. Like D don't get me wrong. She will win him back over in this episode. But if Ty had gone home last night, I don't know if he's coming in immediately after beinginking like, okay, Aubrey played a great game. I should vote for her. I think he's too emotionally invested in their connection right now So he ends up spending a lot of time with Michelle in this episode as everybody else is on the reward challenge and they're going to talk and they have a heart to heart and he says that his Gard was up with Michelle. She's a beautiful girl And ultimately though, they get back on the same page. Look at Michelle Yeah Well, Michelle's open for business. She's like, my door has always been open Ty, but he's kind of like, I don't really know what it is about you that we never really clicked. You know, we talked about how the Beauty tribe was kind of picking up Tye. like the girls in the Beauty tribe were trying to pick up Ty as a fourth, but we never see a one on one relationship between Michelle and Ty. right? We get Ty and Julia at points. We get we definitely get Ty and Anna Rarely do we see the two of them mesh. And so Of all the people in the beauty tribe for Ty to fall out with, this one makes a lot of sense. but Michelle is still like, I'm still willing to talk to you. Ty's just like, this's just not how he's been playing the game. Like the people he has the most chemistry with is the people he wants to work with. That's how he ended up working with Scott and Jason until they pissed him off. and then he flips over to Aubrey and now she has his heart. Michelle is trying desperately to get much like to get tie to be willing to work with him and He's a little burned right now. he is upset with Aubrey. and so if you're going to get him the flip, this is the time to do so And it does feel like Michelle makes some progress with H She's getting a massage from Ty He's saying like, hey, we could work together. Let's do this. I have my idol. Wh should we vote for I do think though that when Aubrey comes back from reward, I think that Aubrey fixes it. She pieces him up so qu. She's so good. This is we, you know, the episode ten Rby Masterstroke fine But this is really, really good work from Aubrey because she tells Ty exactly what she what she needs to tell him to get him back on the same page. She's also believes it, right? Like she's gone from being like, okay, Ty needs to go to no Ty, you're my goat. And so shes said, I got Joe, that's an extra vote. And now I got you. And it's me and you to the end. We're each other's best chance of making it to the end because these other people think you're a threat I no longer think you're a threat. I think you're the person that I want to sit by because it'll make me happy. And I don't think she's wrong about that. I think she'll be happy to sit next to Ty and she thinks she can beat him. And for him, He was able to kind of exhale and release some of the animosity he had toward her because he was plotting on her downfall. But you could tell it was just it's takaking a toll on him. The emotional toll that Survivor takes on Ty, he talks about how this is the hardest thing he's ever had to do. This man will go and do this again in less than a year He's going to do it again right after the season airs basically withith Aubrey and Aubrey is armed with she has like the tie cheat code She She knows exactly what she got him the first time. And she was like, oh, I speak Thai. And since she's fluent and Thai, she goes and she speaks him in his language. And he's like, o, okay, cool, I get it. And so this time around, she gets him again and Thai is completely back on board. So it looks like there's really nothing the duo of Michelle and Syidney can do Aubrey Joe entire locked in We're armed with the knowledge of we know what will happen in these next couple of votes What would have happened if Joe made it through Well, this is either the exit for Siddney or Michelle I Think. Think Michelle goes here. U Aubrey is closer to Sydney basasically that's that's the best way I can put it. I don't really understand like, you know, they both have to go think she would rather keep Sydney around because there's a nonzero chance that Sidney will pick her over tie Um You know, and she can count on that. She can probably count on Siddney just taking her to the end if she wins or like allow, you know, her and Joe getting to the end with Sidney versus her. you know, we know Siddney kind of has Ties her final three. I mean, has Aby and her final three U so I think this I think this is the end of Michelle if Joe doesn't go. Well, barring an immunity challenge win. Yeah, that's what I was going to say about the immunity challenges. Do you think that maybe if Syidney doesn't win immunity that they're looking at her as Sydney has already won At least one individual immunity. She was right there to the end on another one and I wonder if there's a worry is Sydney heating up? and are we more concerned? Now Michelle will win some immunity challenges here down the stretch, but is there maybe more of a concern that Sydney is that immunity threat If Sidney goes on, if you look at Sidney and think from Aubrey's perspective, I guess that because that's the person I guess I have to look at it from Joe's perspective, willll never know what Joe would like to do because they don't ever tell us. We just know he wants to be there with Aubrey. But from Aubrey's perspective Maybe she thinks, okay, Sidney winning awful because Syidney still likes her in her final three I don't know where Michelle stands. I don't know if Arubrey knows where Michelle stands at this point. Does Michelle want Arubrey in her final three Mhm. This Michelle want Aubbery in her final three Like in the show Michelle with Sidney and Ti. Yeah Yeah. I think Michelle Is in tie. It would be her final three It would be wild for a show to w Joe out She doesn't really have a relationship with him. I mean, they seem like they lived together long enough to have some type of relationship. but I mean, Joe's not going to vote for you if you don't a relationship You might as well sit next to. I think Michelle's just trying to get to the end. I don't think she's super, you know, concerned with who she's going to sit next to because she was willing to Well, I guess that she did get rid of Julia instead of Jason. I was going say that she voted out Jason, but the alternative was her get voted out. So she was open to voting out Jason So ye, but I think she's just in a position where she can't really be too picky about who she goes to the end with. Right? Well, the reason I ask is because if I'm Aby, that's what I want to determine, right? Like I got to vote out the person who's more likely to keep me around. And although it's probably harder to beat Syidney if you think like, oh she' won a couple challenges, X,YZ Does she want you in the game at the end? I feel like Michelle does not At least based all what we saw, you know, her and Ty cook up that plan to get Aubrey out.. D explicitly say that they were going to get Aubrey out or did they just say they were going to work together? I think they said they're going to work together. I don't think that they looked at. They did say that could Michelle and Ty do something together? They could sway Sydney and Ty says that Aubrey would never see that coming. So I guess there is a world where if Aubrey doesn't fix this, she could go out at the final five Oh yeah, I think Aubrey's gone if she loses tie here. I think there's nothing. What what can she do to say? Well Obviously there's this immunity challenge that we don't even get to see. It would be cool if we saw the immunity challenge Rob because then we could probably like ascertain who you thought might win it. I wonder if when we get to the challenges because they didn't you know, u like throwa away challenges. I think like The challenge to kick off a jur a juror I'm not sure necessarily what challenge that would have been. So we're going to get a challenge in the next episode. I wonder if that would have been the final five challenge It's hard o, well I'm pretty sure Michelle wins that. And theres still three I think there's going to be three challenges in the finale. Yeah. so maybe there's maybe Michelle wins because I think she's about to win all three, right? So maybe Michelle wins out at this point. she wins that. So I think yeah, I think I think Siddney's going here probably if Joe doesn't go home. there's probably an alternate timeline where Syney's going, But then that still leaves the juggernaut of Aubrey Joe and Ty up against Michelle And then You know, we find herself in the same position. Michelle's going to win all the way to the end or at least close enough to where she can she can get to the jury and that's going to be a death sentence for everybody. Yeah. So there's going to be a reward challenge at the start of the next episode. and Aubrey is going to win the reward challenge on day thirty six Okay Oh Okay So which is I think weird that we start a finale with a reward challenge. So maybe that might have been The immunity challenge Hey, I don't know. yourour guess is as good as mine. I think we I think what we're looking at here though is that the show lets us know that Aubrey got tieb back on her side. So I think for the most part, like again, any does barring any n you know, disaster or something like that. Arey Ty and Joe They got three votes. The other side has two. Yeah. you know, they both can't be immune. Todd doesn't seem like anybody else can whisper that idol out of his hand either. So I think Arey safed this round. I think eitherydney or Michelle is out. It's summer, it's hot out. You want clothes that feel cool and comfortable. 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Upr payment forty five dollars for three months, ninety dollars for six months or one hundred andyllars forelveth plan required fifteenllars mon equalent to taxes andess extra initial plan term only greater than fifty gigabtes and slow netk busy t What do you think about Jeff's bedside Manner here with the Joe medical situation I was trying to make sense of it honestly because like it looks like Jeff, Jeff is like, hey This is because you're old Old. You're seventy one. So that this is a seventy one year getting it done Yeah, you're getting it done. but not all the way. There are some things that he can't get done and it's This thing specifically, Like Joe seems to be taking a more medical approach to the way he's talking about this. like he's like, yeah, I can feel like, you know, my kidneys and then like maybe's like he's like talking about. but Joe Jeff keeps going, but you're old. like, you know like There's nothing you could have done differently except not be old And he's like, well, I could have just not ate my body weight in meat. Jeff's like, yeah, but but you're older, you know, you're old guy You know, and people are going to be inspired by you. which I was like, yeah, but like I just really wish I could use the restroom, You know what I'm saying?ike So I think Jeff was trying to make this a bigger moment. and Joe was just kind of like, I just want to use the restroom.. I'm in a lot of pain. Could we not do the, you know, contextualizing right now? really I'm not in the mood for it. Right, right. And they're like, Hey, do you want to get medication and stay? And Joe's like, No, I don't. I don't want to stay here in pain. And they say, Well, if he stays it in kidney failure. Joe and Jeff again is like, dang. If you weren't seventy one, this would Yeah, this wouldn't happen. You don't know that There was one thing that happened that I thought was a little weird was that Jeff comes to the beach. it's nighttime and Jeff asks the first thing he comes in with doctor Joe And he asked Dr. Joe u All right, is it visible? Could we pick up his shirt and like a snake that's like eating a person? Could we see a large abscess in his stomach where all the meat was And apparently you could because he lives at the shirup and Jeff's like, yeep, there it is. There Yeah, she's a beauty. It' like All right man, this man is dying. Stop this man is he is not happy. He's ready to go and he hurts and you can see it. It looks like it's painful. M. Yeah And Yeah, Jose claims that he ate three feet of steak kebabs Not smart N smart. I do like that it was Siddney on the reward with him because Sydney's like, I'm a bodybuilder. I know nutrition. And I can tell you right now that Joe Joe is eating too much. And they even like even if that's a conffessional that's done after the fact, like let's say she does that confessional after she knows he's gone or whatever f. But we also get her back at camp when they say, Oh, tell us about the reward. And he's like, I must at eight eightight of those kebolic. I was just tearing them up. How many did you eat sitting? I had one And's like, o, Oh, o, Joe, Joe, this is not good. it is like no, I had good sense. I knew better than to just It was an overnight reward. There was no rush. There was a spa, there was a bath. there was chicken, there was beef, there was cheesecake. We saw so little of what they talked about at the reward. alsoso. Joe came back. he's like, Oh my God, we took a bath in a big wooden tub. I was like, well We would' we know Not that yeah, not that I'm looking to see his pasty white ass again again, but But Rob, we used to get that Yeah. We've seen plenty of pasty asses on Survivor in the past, Big bathtubs, thinkink way back to Parvety on Cook Islands with Yuen and Ozzie. They had an overnight spa day. We've seen so many people have overnight spas and we see them shower. We get to see them the next morning where they're all coming together, solidifying alliances. We spent the entire time with Ty and Michelle Having a good time massage. We don't show any of it. It was just kind of like they they yadda yad of that for real. Yeah So I didn't listen to the exit interview with Joe did he have go to the hospital? What do you think I So I tried to listen to it, but all but I was like multitasking. So what I what I what I did catch was him talking about how apparently he knew Rudy Yes. In real life. Yeah I did both in the same area. I think they're both like from Virginia Beach. Yeah, he was talking about how they were hanging out at some point and all this other stuff. likeike that was really cool where he's like, yeah, you got to keep living. And so yeah, it was it was it was an interesting conversation. She told him that go easy, go easy on the under the awwards. Rudy invented those survivor Latrine Mm Yeah Rudy, I think would only eat dark meat chicken. I don't know, I'm sure he was a big steak guy Oh yeah, no. It was the beef that did Joe in for sure. He was talking about from dining with Rudy. Yeah, he was he would he did not want White me Got you. Yeah. now he He should have given Joe the heads up. I mean, I don't know. I'm pretty sure Rudy was laaughing Joe's experience I can't see a world where he was like, Yeah, that makes sense. I think that Rudy P was like, what's wrong with you? Why did you do that? Yeah Did you not wan to wait You know, it's kind of bookookes for Aubrey here in the post merge where for the second time this season, she's lost her closest ally. I do think that the Neil Medivac does help her on that night and then ultimately this is the one that does ultimately doom her in the game The metavac give it and it takeeth away. you know, That's probably true, you know. And I'm sure that there's other situations in survivor history where, you know, someone is saved by the Metivac, but then later on, they will it will come back to haunt them, you know? And this is definitely that occasion because she could have been gone, right? We don't know one hundred percent, but she could have been gone. She lived to fight another day. But at some point, like you said, final destination, it came back around to get her. You know what? And I don't think anybody's talked about this too much, but in terms of the Maac and it all coming around Survivor fifty Kyle blows out his Achilles. They put him in the boat. And he says, Hey Somebody on this beach win this game. okay That she lived by the Medavac again He does stand up And he wasn't even talking to her. He was talking about anybody but was her. S right on his beach, not you. but like what? I'll take it. Yeah, you're not going to be two pkings. You'll take whatever encouragement you can get Yeah. So that was good. anythingthing else from this episode I really enjoy Aubrey watching Joe leave because You can tell that her brain as is just like, not again, not again, not like this. You know, she's watching her meal ticket walk out the door. She talks about Joe the way Boston Rob talks about Philip Shepherd. You know, like, no, this is my second vote. This is my extra piece I need this in order to do to win the game and he's just like Yeah my stomach ht. She's like,, can you get suck it up? L I know she's just like praying like I wish this man could go take a dump. please. let him pee. Let the man pee and Nothing, notothing. So it's like although they're all in a situation where they would hate to see Joe go. There's a tiny part of each of them that's preying on the praying on his downfog right one Right, Michelle's like, Yeahah, this is great for me. One more spot. And again, there's that luck thing again, you know? Michelle ends up catching the lucky break here, right when she needed it It is funny when Joe is on the reward, the way that he's talking about the food. He says at one point he's like Joe, Joe's all beef. Joe's all beef The camera people could not have known oldld they had Yeah, they had no clue that he was giving them so much. And then when they had to go back and edit it, they're like, Damn did he know? didid he know this