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Criticizing Aaron Boone's Lineup Decisions
From “Shut Up!” Evan Rips Cohen as Mets Spiral Continues | Evan & Tiki — Apr 16, 2026
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I want to say this in the most respectful way possible. Because I think you can talk to family in a rough way, in a direct way, but in a rough way. Steve Cohen needs to shut up. He just does. He needs to shut up because a few days ago we talked about his usage of Twitter. And I said, look, if he wants to be George Steinbrenner and call his guys out, I'm good. I think it'll go a long way with the fans. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But last night, after the New York Mets lost yet again, what are we at? Seven in a row now? Seven in a row. Losing track. Very limp. Limp. Limp, limp, limp. You know what I mean? Listen to what this owner tweets late last night, and maybe you were greeted with it this morning uh from your friends or in a text chat or listening to Boomer and Geo. This is an infuriating tweet from the owner of this team. So last week, it was funny, Tiki said, Evan, you're a Steve Cohen shill, because I defended Now I'm his worst nightmare. Because I'm not defending this crap. And again, I love you. You're the owner. Blah, blah, blah, lots of money. Right. Supporting you, everything else, believing the guess maybe the long-term plan, whatever you want to call it. But shut up. Like sometimes you gotta say that to the people you love. You gotta shut up. Listen to this tweet. Nobody likes to lose, but I saw some green shoots tonight. Timeout. What the hell does that mean? I saw some green shoots. You know what? So you have a house, you have a lawn. Yeah. It's been dormant all winter because it's been a freaking long ass winter. Right. And the grass is yellow and it's dead. Yeah. And then all of a sudden it gets a little bit sunny. You get like a downpour of rain like we had last night. And you wake up this morning and there's like green stuff like starting to pop up. That's what he meant. That's what he meant. I I thought it was a golf reference. Like they're not getting in the hole, but they've shot it onto the green. No. Wow. Okay. I have no idea. Maybe Tiki's right. Maybe Sean's right. Anyhow, he goes on. On offense, Lindor had two hits, including a home run. Bach et got a double hitting it to left field as opposed to recently being right field prone. Bench got a solid hit . Soto started his running progression today. This is my favorite part. This is where I wanted to smash my phone across my face. Simeon hit a shot that might have been a home run on a warmer n ight. And finally, Nolan McLean pitched an outstanding game, going seven innings. Hang in there, fans. We will turn this around. Bro , I appreciate that you bought this team. I appreciate that you have lots of money. I appreciate that you think you hired the right guys. The jury is out on that. But after this team loses a seventh game in a row, after this team and this fan base is forced to watch this crap to start the year and offseason in which a lot of us were upset about who you let go. Do not tell us to hang in there and write BS positive Tommy like crap to make us feel better. Because it doesn't make anyone feel better. And so, Steve, you got two options. Number one, shut up . That's always an option. You can shut up. You don't have to tweet. The other option, which I have suggested, is be tough. And you want to complain, you have every right to. You want to bitch and moan, you have every right to. And you know what you'll get from that? I don't know how the players will react. Tiki will give us his perspective in a second. But you know how the fans will react? We'll say, man, I get you, Steve. I love this. But when you feed us, and Tommy, I'm sorry you're getting shrapnel on this. You know I love you. If you're gonna feed us, positive Tommy BS at one o'clock in the morning after the team sucks yet again, you are as out of touch as anybody. So again, like I say to my kids, or I say to my parents, or I say to my wife, I love you , but and in this case, the butt is shut up, please. Okay, so do you want the owner side or the player side first? From my perspective. I want you to give me the, you know what Sean wants you to decide because I'm emotional right now. Uh from Tiki I want the player side for so from a player standpoint, you know when you're not playing well. You know when you're limp. Let's call it that. You love that phrase. Dude, it's your favorite flavor. It's my favorite phrase from the Rico Brown. Yeah. Limp bleep offense. Exactly. From a player's standpoint, especially after a ninth inning where you are horrendous at bats. One pitch in the strike zone. One pitch and three strikeouts. Yes. One, two, three. Nine balls, one strike. Nine out of the strike zone, one in the strike zone, one, two, three, three strikeouts. Yes. You already know. I don't need to be told. I don't need to be made feel to feel good. You already know. The last thing you want, though, from anybody is an excuse. Don't give, don't make an excuse for me. I I I know where I am. I know what I've done well. I've known what I'm doing poorly, especially over the last seven games. Don't start making excuses for me. Because then people will then ask me about the excuses you made for me. Right? It's not even me doing anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's you making an excuse and then me having to answer for your explanation of why we're playing bad. So from a player standpoint, I'm not you're not telling the owner to shut up, but you're kind of saying, dude, just please stop. I'd rather you say nothing than make an excuse for me. Wouldn't you rather be called out? It's tax season, and at LifeLock, we know you're tired of numbers. But here's a big one you need to hear. Billions. That's the amount of money and refunds the IRS has flagged for possible identity fraud. Now here's another big number: 100 million. 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From the owner side, isn't this exactly what George Steinbrenner used to do? No. Isn't this exactly what George did in a modern iteration? No, George would kill his players. George would also call up media, let them be the proxy for whatever he wanted to say. The difference is that Steve Cohen Cohen is doing it directly. He is coming directly to the fans. Yeah, but George would call his players out. He wouldn't cave Winfield and say, I believe in you, Dave. You know, that boy you hit, it died because it's April. But don't worry, you'll get no. He called him Mr. May. He called him a Steph. Steve Cohen is not George Steinbrenner. You invoke George, not I. Okay. But he's not but I'm not saying with the message. Forget the message. I'm talking about how the message is delivered. Steve Cohen wants to communicate to the fan. George Steinbrenner wanted to communicate to the fans. Gotcha. George would use proxies. He would be like, hey Evan, hey, at one o'clock in the morning, Evan, this is what I believe about the manager. Right. Or whoever. Go report it for me. Yes. Right? Yes. And and mostly it was negative. It was calling out. You're right. But sometimes it was positive. Steve Cohen is doing that without the proxy. He's just going directly to the fan because in 2026 , you have a vehicle, X, that you can do that with. But you're So he's he's just doing what owners have always done. He's just doing it more directly. And the fact that it's direct is what pisses you off. No, what pisses me off is he's making excuses. It's exactly what you said about what players wouldn't want. We don't want to hear excuses. Now if your argument to me is there's no good out of ripping your players on social media, just like there was no good for George calling up media members and doing what he did to his players. That's fine. But I want to take you back to a tweet from five years ago. This is Steve Cohen . And you tell me which Steve Cohen you prefer. I'll give you three options. What he did last night , shutting the hell up, or August eighteenth, twenty twenty one. Okay. Quote: It's hard to understand how professional hitters can be this unproductive. The best teams have a more disciplined approach. The slugging and OPS numbers don't lie. Give me that. Well, either give me that or don't give me anything. Give me that. Because that is Steve Cohen in 2021, his first year as an owner. And I'm not saying it worked because it didn't the Mets obviously didn't have success and continu theyed collapsing. Yep. That's the frustration we have. And what's worse about now than 2021 is this ain't new anymore. This isn't new and shiny. And none of us want to relitigate the past, but it was your guys's decision to take a productive player and trade him for a stiff that you're now making excuses for that if well if the weather was different it would have been a home run. Dude, Marcus Simeon's 35 and you want to play the numbers don't lie, game, the numbers don't lie . He's a declining asset. Right. But you decided. You decided that a player who while he wasn't perfect was productive, you needed to dump his ass for that stiff. That's your decision. And if you're not frustrated by that, I don't care how many games it's been, because the evidence of the last two years is also there on Marcus Simeon. He has declined the last three years. Don't tell me it's like it's raining, but it's not really raining. You're urinating on me and you're telling me it's raining. Don't tell me about the weather with Marcus Simeon. Nice, you got it. Don't you got that one right. Thank you. Don't actually mention him until he produces . Yeah. Because I don't want to hear it and no one wants to hear it. So we're already mad. We're already on edge. We don't need this owner going out on social media. It's gonna be okay. But everybody's on social media . Everybody is Well then say something different or don't say something at all. Something has changed since twenty twenty one, Evan, and you're forgetting. Go ahead. He has now not once but twice called out fans about attending games at City Field. Forget the one about the free tickets a couple weeks ago. How about last year on multiple occasions leading up to the season calling out fans of, hey, I did my part, you better fill the ballpark. Once you have done that and you've challenged fans going, Steve Cohen sees the writing on the wall. It's April. Fans are ready to riot and jump ship on the team. So now he has no choice but to try in his mind sell the spin zone of why it's positive because he's fearful of what he called fans out for doing. They're going to continue to do, and he wants to let them know it's gonna be okay. Every five starts you get Nolan McLean. That's why you're coming. That's what honestly that's what he should say. No, and that's why you know what it would be better if instead of being po like you want to see be positive. He doesn't want to be negative. He doesn't want to be George. He doesn't want to be, you know, Debbie Downer. He doesn't want to say 17, 18 games into the season, we suck. These guys suck. David Stearns, you're gone. I gotta do this all over because we suck and let's bring in somebody different. He can't do that. Suck, suck, suck. What he should do is just say, well, at least every five days, you get Nolan McLean. That's what I think. And you know what? We would all agree. Well we would all like, heart, share, be like, you're damn right. This is Jacob de Gromp two point oh. Dude, I mean, don't get me all excited. Like I I'll I'll go wax poetic about Nolan if you want. That's why the end of his tweet when he said McLean was outstanding and hang in there, fans will turn it around. That part's fine. But you want to tell me how great Nolan McLean is? We already know. And he's amazing. He was awesome last night. More than him in a little bit. And you want to tell us to hang in there, that's fine. It's the excuses. They're lame. They're stupid. And nobody believes them. That's the problem. So if you want to go to social media to get people to go to the ballpark, you can express frustration in a classy way. That's why you don't have to say what I said about Marcus Simeon. You don't have to call him a stiff. You don't have to say he's washed up. You don't have to relitigate the Nemo trade. I'm not saying you should do that, but don't spit at us and call it rain. Is that correct too, or is that slightly the other one? Speaking of correct, I'm getting a couple people telling me what green shoots actually means. What does it actually mean? All right. Green shoots is a finance term for positive signals in the market. Like green spikes on a graph instead of being in the red. Now he's now he's flexing on his billions. But this is what I was gonna say though. Who is reading this tweet? Not financial millionaire med fans. Frank the Tank is reading this tweet. They know what green shoots are. Yeah. You gotta speak to a fan like a fan. We should have known better that it was a dopey financial mention. That's that's that's that's bad. I wish I was right. Me too. Because at least we'd be all be like, yeah, I had some green popping up in my lawn too. Although I was just confused as to when it rained last night. I didn't You didn't get any rain? Oh we had to downpour for about twenty minutes. Really? And then my grass was so green this morning. I wish it was Tiki's' ides idea or Sean a. Instead, it was an out-of-touch comment from what is right now an out-of-touch owner. And I think enough time has gone by where I don't have to before every sentence say, I'm glad he's not the Will Pons and I'm happy he owns the team. Like we all know that. We're all appreciative that he owns the team and it's much better than the past. Yeah. But this was some out-of-touch crap last night. It's already bad enough. The team loses every night. They have lifeless at bats in the ninth inning. Don't tell me everything's going to be okay with some BS like, well, if the weather's different, Marcus Simeon hits a home run. The only thing worse than what Steve Cohen tweeted last night was the freaking lineup card your manager put out on the field last night. And I don't want to get nuts on April 14th today is April fifteenth. But we were on the air and we listened to Aaron Boone's reasoning for not starting Ben Rice and it was stupid. We gave it thought, it was stupid. Didn't agree. I can use my bullet whenever I want. Hey, Aaron, when did you use the bullet? Shut up, Tubby. You used it down seven-nothing. I should stick you in a locker, geek. And then to make matters worse, you gotta sit Cody Bellinger, who's actually had hits in three straight games is actually showing a pulse. That was a pathetic lineup last night. It takes a lot for me to get that kind of opinionated on a lineup this early. Right. But Tiki, that was stupid. Yeah. It was great. He cooled off the Yankee offense. So you want to know who cooled off the Yankee offense? You know who was? It was not what's his name on the mound last night. It was you, Aaron Boone. Congratulations. Yeah. It's and it's funny because not funny, but you look at what Ryan Weathers did last night. He gave up back to back to back home runs in the first inning. And a belly to belly to belly. Exactly. The game was over, basically, it felt like, just because of man, he's not gonna get through. But then you watch ed him. The rest of his game was outstanding. Think of it by Homer to Peraza, but yeah. Okay, but that was a Oswald Perraza. You take away the belly to belly to belly. Hold on. Just repeat this again. Oswald Peraza was your daddy. last night. Right He was. That's mind bottom. But take away the three home runs. He had ten strikeouts. Take away the three home runs. But you can't take away the three. Of course you can't mentally defeat someone. But you also know you know what else you can't take away? You know what Ryan Weathers in his four starts? You can't you don't score. Zero run support. Yeah. Well that's zero. That's right. Hold on. As I was read uh thinking about what we talked about with this lineup and then read and I read that stat this morning, I was like, man, is he messing with Ryan Weathers? Is he scrolling with I know he's not. I know he's not. But how the hell does he have none? Zero support. Add to your run support line on Ryan Weathers, and this graphic popped up during the post-game. It was unbelievable. Not only have the Yankees not scored any runs for Ryan Weathers in his first four starts of the season? First pitcher in Yankee history to ever have that happen to him. Yeah. Yankees have been around for a long freaking time. Right. And Ryan Weathers has been degrommed by the New York Yankees. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, at least Booney can fire the bullets when he wants to fire him. You know what else you can't do if you want to score runs when you're down 6-0? You can't send an LD Ryan McMahon up to the plate to try to bunt for a hit. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I gotta stop right there. Can't use it for the Yankees. The LD reference. Only for the Mets. Oh, it's now. It's only for the M. Trademarked Rico Bronya reference that was. It's only for the Mets. Yeah. I'm using it on the Kevin Moss. Nah, it's only on the Mets. You gotta stop. Cease and desist, Shul. Cease and desist. You don't want our lawyers to get after you. I think Aaron Boone is a really intelligent guy and I always want to hear people out. The idea and I'm gonna simplify it because it's so dumb. The idea that you want to save your best hitters so that they can be used off the bench whenever you want is one of the single dumbest things you'll ever hear. Right. Like, does Dave Roberts say I'm gonna save Shohei Otani? He would have been better off just saying, I wanna give my day uh guys some days off. Yeah, you're better off saying that. Because i when you ba when you essentially say I'm gonna keep these guys on the bench so I can use them when they're necessary, you're telling us you're you're tolling the game. You don't care. And like you're punting that game. Well you're also eliminating the plate appearances from the better header. Ben Rice has statistically been their best hitter. I don't think obviously Aaron Judge is their best hitter, but there's a real chance Ben Rice ends up as the second best hitter on this team. And you're sitting him two days in a row and you're saying, oh I get to use the bullet whenever I want. When'd you use the bullet, Aaron? Oh that's right. When you were down seven nothing. When did you use the Cody Bellinger bullet? You never used it. Right. It's still stuck in the holster. Like, I can't tell you the Yankees were gonna score ten runs last night if they put the proper lineup out there. But this manager made one of the most bizarre decisions you'll ever see. He put together a ridiculously pathetic lineup, considering the options that he has. So at some point today, Aaron Boone should apologize to Yankee fans. It's a long ass season. There were forty thousand people at Yankee Stadium last night. Half of them didn't get the chicken finger ice cream. Apologize. Damn right. So we're in a great mood today. I mean the Mets haven't won a game in sixteen months. The owner's making excuses, the manager of the Yankees put together the worst lineup idea I've ever seen, and we haven't even gotten to the fact that the Giants and Dexter Lawrence are at a major impasse. Yeah, as they take a running back fifth overall. 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