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Rio Ferdinand Presents

Rio Ferdinand Presents

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From Joao Pedro: Cole Palmer would start for Brazil | Why Neymar is an idol to me and my MumMay 27, 2026

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Joao Pedro: Cole Palmer would start for Brazil | Why Neymar is an idol to me and my MumMay 27, 2026 — starts at 0:00

I said to them before I didn't didn't think You are that good? And he look at me. I say, yeah, but now because I Play with him Yeah, he's he's d couldould you come to the Brazil squad and be good in the Brazil squad? I said to him, whyy you don't come to Brazil? The the number ten dy, it's no problem Because in Brazil we don't have this l Welcome to Rio Meets. We're just getting set up in there for a Brazilian dririon to come and chill with me in this Airbnb. After performing in the iconic Maricana, Go Pedro is here to talk about all the things I love. Sill, flare The Samba. These are the players I love talking to. Great backstories. C let's go Gl, how you doing man? good to see you. It' the Vgish Rriver Yeah How are you doing? Yeah, good. goodood l good see,.. So how are you keeping busy now? When you're finished training? What are you doing? Sometimes you have like aedy stauff and also I do feis at home. At home. Yeah. E everyone's doing this so you've got your physo company's busy Yeah Yeah I have feisers at home so I try to do every day to see what I need to recovery. to be able to playing the weekend. Is this like massively important? because in basketball, LeBron James does this, Christiano does this? is this like big inspirations maybe that you know you do this. Yeah, of course, like we see how Ronaldo take care of his body And when I was growing up, my agent also told me like age one, I think you needs When you step to when you do the next step, go to England, you need to lookook more to yourself, be ready because You know, England is very physical. so yeah, I think it's very important for me too do my stuff every day to be ready for the games. Well let me take you back to Brazil where you obviously gre up, where you' born I love Brazilian football when I was young, like skkills, the flare Um, But what what what was it that got you into football. My father used to play football before And likea? No, number six. isn' it? Yeah, yeah yeah So I think from my father and my mom put these in my head, you know, Since I was four, I started to play football Oh I remember when I see my grandmother's house playlay f boy in the street So I think in Brazil, every young kids want to be a footballer So So you started as a number six like a dad or striker? No I start in front wing. Okay. left wing because Na Youveryone want to be Nma. You want to be a neima But now I'm tall and yeah I still can drible I had few times. I play a six, eight And know I'm st Wow, so you played everywhere.were. And you had a big moment in your career because you move from botaphogo to Fenz Fenz. Yeah, I was playing botaphogo from my cityberon Pito And when I was T to eleven years old. I move to realo And I start to play for Fumin. Is that a big change for you as a young kid Because realo is dangerous And when you liave in another city, on TV there so bad things from the city in Brazil like this. Pllas Yeah So when I move from S Paulo Toro. Al always need a bit scared My momum see Tick off her job And uh She just followed my dream. so I knew I had a lot of pressure on me B Also I believe a lot on me. so I knew it was a great opportunity for me to to make my dreams come true. What was the pressure? Was the pressure to provide for your family Like was this a big thing for you? Be for me this is a big thing for me when I was a kid. Yeah you know, like you want to to see your mum and dad family in different situations. So in Brazil I think the more easy way to change that is Fobo. We know's P boyys very hard TV D the level to be a footballer, to play in Brazil, have a lot of talent So how I could make The attention to be on me, you know. I'm the next one to achieve. So it's difficult in Brazil. When was the moment in your life that you thought I can help change everything for my family now. When I make, I think fifteen years old, I start to see peopleople near to me Make that step So I see Well I think the time going to arrive soon so I need to do something and The next year, you had a You had a tournament and I think three games before this tournament. I was playing midfielder and left wing And one of the cotes came to me and said like Ason, I think you should play Striker No me. I like to play with the ball Yeah I like to D bonito. And Yeah, but he said, no, no no,'m going to change you I was hgry How long did it take you to accept I think few months because I used to play a lot The guy who controlled the game You know, midfield you control the game And yeah when I start to play, And three games I score Fifteen goals. So five, five, five I didn't score that much a long time And then after these three games, I went to the tournament like a small tournament in Brazil where I come every Big teams, you know, like Santos, Fini, Flamengo And then in that tournament Our top score I lost in the final. becausecause the guy S score w one go more than me and At that time, W forcame and spoke with my My agent So When my agent call me and say, hey, for want to buy you If this time I saw that M City was interested what's no disrespect, but these teams are here. No yeah, My agents talk to me and say, like We can go straight to the big stage A they going H on you? or you can build get minutes. And I say If I go to another country I want to play. And there I going to make people look at me in different way So that's why I chooose what W wasn' in the Premier League at the time And S In the school And how it Thisis m was obviously Richard Charlson, I've seen was a big influence on you. He'd w to whatf as well.. U It was a few years ahead of you, obviously at Flimenzo in Brazil But how much did his pathway add to your decision and ambition Yeah, of course when you look someone who came from the same spot like fluminani and went to what for They. I make the next step you say W The opportunity came to me I need to do I need to make the same like Raron dids, you know. I will try my best to to attam the same level. because I think at that time, Was they The light in the end of the tunel for me High interest debt is one of the toughest opponents you'll face Unless you power up with a so far personal l A so far personal loan could repackage your bad debt into one low fixed rate monthly payment It's even got suuper speed since you could get the funds as soon as the same day you signed Visit sofi. com slash power to learn more That's soFi d. com slash PW E loans originated by SFi Bank NA, member F theIC terms of conditions supppply NL S six nine six eight nine one. Oh I think it's important, I think always to have somebody to look at like that. What's R Charson like as a person? because we don't get to hear him talk much in English. Yeah H Charson he's a On the pitach, he's a completely different guy because some of the oppositionans they hate him. they don't like. He hates you, he say Bed things too Yeah, trust me. I had this experience with him. but in Brazil when you together in the national team, he's completely different. Like he make jo stay near to you. You know Yeah, you know in the pitach have players like like this. For example, Kuura, he don't talk few minutes before the game Qiet Every day he jokes. is it? Yeah He joked every day he don't I think his life is different Every time you want to make a joke, is' it Yeah Well on the beach It is good cl He don't care. It just want toin the game. Yeah I like him. Just back to Filanesi and Wford when you left Fanesi U It was before you even played in a first team you agreed to go one. ye It was before I was greatve ming sixteen to sevententy And then yeah And then I went to First in one of seventeen. Was this the desire to really support your family? onene of the main reasons as well Yeah, of course, when I had the opportunity Because my dream Al was to play here in Premier League, wasn't it? Yeah I said my agent can said is because the lake here, I think is the best lake in the world I used to watch you the guys playing here saying Aazing. The levels are too high So when I had the opportunity to come to the Pmier League I didn't think that much to be fair I just see the opportunity and I take Dudes So one of my friends was there when he was there Watford, Tom Cleverly What was he like? What was he like with you Clebs? No becausecause in the beginning it was difficult because my English was but he always tried to help me He's a leader You know that And He help me a lot. We keep in touch somet time and we talk to each other He's a very good gu How does a young kid from Brazil repair. to land here in the UK in the Premier Lague Like my last few months in Brazil, I tried to to learn some word too hard. You have to watch videos or listen to music. No, yeah, but it's too hard because that I don't used to talk in English And they play Wednesday Saturday, Wednesday Saturday in Brazils. M So sometimes I play sad today and not went straight to the next game. I didn't come back home to do fl flying away. Okay So My first day here When I learnt was too cold freezy And then I didn't speak English. zero, nothing nothing I but I think this is normal. this is normal for a foreign player arise in And you know what? I think a lot of the English pers we don't appreciate troubles and the hardships that When the frign player comes here they have with the language his family come in. I think that's a I read that it's important and that's why you bought maybe your grandmother, your mom and you one of your best friends as well.. Yeah, my best friend came to me as well me. How important were each of those people coming with you Yeah, it was very important because when I arrived here in England it was near to Christmas, So imagine away from home and alone difficult. What are the most difficult things? Be I think it's important because we get a lot of young people to watch and the young footballers that aspiring to play in a different places and countries what are the most difficult things when you move to a new country? First, To communicate was very difficult And I think in football was more the game was too fast, the pitch so good. So the ball flying. I say you won't speed of the game world Shes eicalal I remember my first g. When I start to run When I start to brave light, It was too dry. Let see Wha P the difference so this is small things was difficult, but afterfter and adapt to click Well let's talk about you as a player and as an attacking player, this is the stuff I love to talk about. What would you say is your super strength? You going If someone sent you the best part of your game? is it? The best part. Can I tell you what I think and you know what you think I think you're best the best know I'm thinking if I'm playing against you, what I think is the hardest thing would be to play against you Your movement When the game is happening, youice to separate from me will make it difficult. And then your ability to I think to move Technical. Yeah. I'm a very technical player I can use both feet But this is true because Look, how big you are I imagine if I stay near to you gonna tough so yeah this is is a very good point because You see see what me mean in the game Sometimes if I don't get the ball, I don't stay in the same spot and move I need to find a way to change the game. And Yeah, because I used to play as at tenent So sometimes I can help the team in different positions I like freedom You know Wh Who is that player which I like from before? you would say is similar Similar, I'll always say like carrcane. Levandovsky And else M Aguerro, let's say Freedom to move to be So you're not just number line Do you get and this is a conversation that happens a lot now. the modern game, The modern game very structure, tactical, you stay, you stay. Do you get the freedom to be Who you want to be in the game today Yeah, now yeah Bh. Sometimes you get some quotes who want to anowledge well, you need to stay there and run first potes, run first potes But sometimes they ball don't come to the first placeot and how going I get goes and So I need to find to smell Where are theyb going to come? I have to be there So today I feel freedom I show able to do what I like to do. And I think now people can see I'm not just the guy who stayed end I can make something different You remind me of someone when I've watched you through the years and listen to like people like Clevs talk about you And they you love to touch the ball L like you always said we've said already, I just want touches of the ball on a controller game sometometimes, yeah Christiana, I've seen you say as a player you respect and hold in high regard He went from like a wide man entertainer to a number nine killer Do you see that beings maybe the way that your career Yeah Is to go like this? I think if you have, for example, now I'm in Chelsea, I have called Palman. and and so for I don't need to drop that much. So if you watch me now, I don't drop that much, but sometimes I drop to help them And then If you have it wo key players in the middle. Wh are be are going to be the third guy? No No know. So now I try to be more more attacic space and be ready for receive the pass to get one for one beat my m in score ye, I think If you have a great support behind wingers as well We don't need to to be in the game that much Right man, we' got low st still to comea out on this pod, but we'll be back shortly after this What if a marginal gain unlocked greater performance. What if an insight in data could change everything At ArAMco, our focus on detail helps us deliver reliable energy to millions across the world Be margins aren't marginal They' where we can truly push the limits of what's possible Ramco an integrated energy and chemicals company Learn more at aramco. com You just mentioned Co Palmmer What would you say when you talk about Cole Palmmer is the first thing that comes to mind with him He's very intelligent. He's magic like I said to him before I didn't Did't think You are that good. And he look at me I say, yeah, but now because I play with him Yeah, he's he's different M Yeah C couldould you come to the Brazil squad and be good in the Brazil squad? I said to him, whyy don't come to Brazil the number ten dmates, No problem Because in Brazil we don't have this gu. Yeah If you watch us, we play four to four. That's true. We don't have a another topicqueers in the middle to build up. You also don't have a nameine. like a modn bothoth dropp the support So yeah, Ko is a different guy He sometometimes he quiet by and then One second He changed the game he's very good. Your number I like relationships in the game What's your relationship like him? Are you telling him what you want Give me the ball like this or Do you communicate l? Yeah, like in the training The other day he said, He well, when I received the ball here moveved to the sideite because he want Angle Because he left food and I'm right. So it's perfect because you're going to cut inside want to open And if you find the ball to me, the ball going be on my right foot I just Yeah, they train you do a lot of competation So you're doing training youre working. That's what I love to hear, man. Yeah I That sounds like Bruno Fernandez. We had him on the show and he was talking about details like this where he wants the ball, how he wants to ball Because in the game is's very quickly. You don't have a time to think talk that much. So we need to prepare for the game just P Talking about your teammates, Reese James, he's the captain. Yeah U was was? What's his best leadership qualities that he has as? His mentality can never give up Never And also he gave the confidence to to everyone with me If I don't score one game, mate comeome to me and join we need to score Hey next game, make sure you score. say, okay, okay. He's not a shoutter, but he will talk to like Sometimes he can be Because it's normal. f will get emotion. So sometimes you get P stuff he's more quiet He lead us leader us with more mentality. So You know You run, you fight. Tim Where do you say he is in the best flatbacks in the world? I think Hakimi is the best in the world now Yeah rightight now I think Rce is the next one I think If risks get more consistent you're gonna be the number one Okay becausecause Hakim is more running Rnie But Rast is more He defend the attack I don't know. I look at Ris, I just I think out of all the wr backs over the last few years He's the one who has more of everything. Yeah. Like you say, he could run You can take free kicks corners, you can pass thirty forty yards You can you can quick enough to run. Yeah And he can defend one v one as well. Very good. I like him, man I think he could be the best. me Agst me he his suffer. Why you take him? Yeah Yeah You have him, you have him? Yeah yeah, he know that. You're gonna watch, you know that. No, but he's very good Well in talking about that because I always used to love the battles in training. Yeah. L so you want to go it' the best players. likeike we had to have like Rooney R now love Tbers Every day's hard, but I used to love the challenge Who is it you so you're batling with Rese? R Kucarella As well see like he must be hard as well. Yeah. kick me every time. I' t tell wp. p it Yeah, it moisice, but I think the The guy I like always to play against is mois Gace. He's strong man. Yeah, he's strong to make my life difficult in the train. Butother like becausecause he said to me, I like to play against good players So yeah, come, come one meet you I like that.. That's what it's about. That's what it's about. Let's talk about Brazil. I can't sit next to you. The World Cup. Brazilian Everybody's second team is Brazil. When I'm young, England, England, but then if Brazil playingrail immediately. Everyone watch. Yeah. So Obviously, you always had the ambition of putting on the yellow shirt. What is the pressure lack play for Brazil Yeah, it's massive because Like I said, Brazil is too big So Every kid want to be a footballer. everyone who could make Watching you I'm going to criticize you. So I think U ' normal. You have a five wood cubps Jggable need to. So the pression is going to be Mass if always were I think This group now We have a strong mentality. We don't to we try to don't focus that much. what people talk outside Try to focus on us while you can I can do and hopefully can win the World Cup. Is Carlo Angelotti a big influence on the media. how you deal with them. and what's he been saying to you guys? he helped you in that sense? Yeah, of course. he say like He don't want one guy. want the group becausecause he thinks the group have more power than One guy and Yeah, I think with hinder When he talked peopleople listen because he won everything And with the players, he's He tried to build a relationship with everyone H. She tell you what you want to do, but also give the freedom to play your football to enjoy So I think he's very good for for the team. So not it's not about having a startard. it's not about like Vinitius being in the star? No if Nammar goes. He wants a group H Of course, Venice is going to be The guy For Velicus be the guy He need a team So you don't want to say, ah The if you don' win is your fault? No, no, no. The group need to to look the same way to think the same way because And then going see Veniceus I to see Roughy. Yeah. if the group is playing well and the group is together, the individuals compue. Yeah, yeah, it's true. it's true. That's a perfect way to look at it. But how good is even thisus We have a the same age So when I was Young, I used to play for example nine. and him eleven play the game get soour changeed quickly to watch his game. talk. If they against the guy. he say, Hey, you need to put two players because they're going to stop me. This is from young. So it's always done this because people don't like it now and it's it. but it's always always like this. alwaysways. K core celebrateans from young So this is normal when I When I see on TV, ormal for him. Yeah isormal. He's just brilliant The other guy I had the opportunity to play was Rodrigo, Oh, I love him. my love same age. I love this guy He's so good I love him. This I think he's a big miss for you. He's injured Yeah for the World Cup. I think him is a big loss. Yeah, he's different in the training two, three of one How Because everyone in Brazil is like Pl So how he able to deo three four If I try to do that, someone gonna come and bang Yeah ye. And the big games he scores. I love him What about um Obviously there's a lot of news around Namar You think you should go? or not If you're the manager I asked Casamirro this the other day. I said, if you're the manager Would you take Nama I think Nameice. The same like messive for Argentina She iss the idol of Basically everyone in Brazil, Of course, Casamiro at a different different feel because they have the same age, but he knows like They might is different He gets his pick. And of course, now he's No feet and stuff b I think If he's good he can be It can be Nema Did you grow up watching them on YouTube? Yeah. So how is So when you watch someone on YouTube and you're the idle and you going to the training ground Brazil and he's there. What's it like It must be a little bit like I didn't have the opportunity to train with him yet But I met him in Venisho's party Once Goodbye Yeah. In real In real Next time txts me ye for sure for sure. He txt me. Age won't come I look to my friend and I said, No way was Neema Marcelo Medina from Crone serf And I saw them there like private area When I was going to the toilet someone touched my shoulder and I look was Marcelot sayge w or do you see I didn't know myselfon al me? No way Yeah. And you straight in, you straight in the private area. I stayed there with them Na come come in we're like, Just look, wow, he's him. My mom bra me here. I need to talk to him? No. Yeah. My mom is a big fan as well. Wow People don't realize the power, like how much the people love Nmar. Yeah. L I think sometimes you get disrespected by some people Yeah because I think he's like the influence and impact. I don't know if there's many, like wellolddino and Nimmar Yeah, the impact But I think because he's still playing And We know you don't play at that level from Barcelona anymore because it's difficult By in Brazil, people talk about him every day new news every day Every day is Na Naa. So imagine his head es I think he's used to it. Yeah, now he's ar Like Nymar like, he embodies the values of all Brazilian football Nutmeg's, showboat. Yeah, skills U Joo Banito Um I don't know, man. I think If he goes, I think he gives you guys different a different lift Yeah the squad Do I mean? Yeah, of course I think I've S everyone if he's there. you know is the last one Yeah So you want to win? Imagine if you win And he's dead going to be different for sure But if he's not, you know, we need to do one hundred percent asult to to bring back to Brazil because a long time you don't don't win the World Cup Just on changing to casamio He's leaving me united, obviously, but he's obviously the captain What's he lag? What's the importance of Casimiro and Brazil national team? For example, with me, I have a good relationship with him Uh, he says Juo I don't care Just play. I willll be look to you every time. You have one game in Brazil against Chilei And then he passed once, I dbled He passed twice and dreled. The third time I was tired because pass to me every time And then I didn't get the ball and he say, Ason, I told you, be ready. Kazzy, I'm tired. sayay, no, no, no, no So Yeah, it's good to Be he want everything here. everyone in the world respect him. because She's a great footballer so too to have one player like this near to you to help you is a very good As a young kid, the first day walking into the training ground with Brazil like Who was there? What's that like for you as a young kid? Be I think when I went to England It's intimidating sometimes who's there, who's gonna to speak to me Yeah, the first thing P st because You have a small prank there like you need to Go up to the chair Sing God to say yourour name. If it's no good, Say come down up now So the first days is obviously like You get more nervous but now because I think going to be two years. I mean the squad When I see someone for the first time I laugh a lot because I know how his head going. But yeah The first time I went there. I was very excited to meet the senior players because I just used to see them on FIFA and yeah was Very good but also was very nervous because pressure dies It's different And just obviously staying on Brazil What are your memories of watching Brazil when you grew up other players, what are the moments? I remember to watch, of course Nima de Vuonzela, everyone in the street Be W Cup in Brazil, I don't know how it's here in England, but in Brazil iss more is like Everyone watched, everyone excited. Everyone in the street, the street is the color of Brazil shirt. They make music for the players So It's like culture, you know. So when you grow up and you see this and now you have the chance to play for that. you get very excited to to win because you know if if you win the World Cup in Brazil, we're going to be a legend forever. It's true. I mean, I played against the last team that won in two thousand two in Japan. And this team was crazy like Kfuda captain Rp backag H lost left back Beronaldino, Rivaldo or R nine like it was like crazy But these guys are at God's It's true when you said whenin if you win, it change your life forever So everyone, talk about you peopleople going Rpect Rpect you like a king Can you change it this year? Can you change this? Hopefully. Hopefully have a great chance thinkink a If you watch our squad P year play for formignated Rafinia, Barcelona, Vin, Madrid. I play for Chelsea. Andndrk Now he start to play more in youond Aigo Thiago Martinei Arsenal W in big clubs. Everyone in the big club, everyone have a A good moment so I think you have a great opportunity to to in the competition Just to finish. We compared All of these great players I've been talking about. We talked about you. What' that planning gets messy How good is he? head one gaming Marocan And I remember everyone talk about Brazi Argentina and becausecause Nima wasn't there And Messi he going to play the game and You saw this squad they say Well we need to be careful with him because If you get the boner today, So the area Proms and like He don't drop, he stay there. The team run for him. Every ball They get him back, they passed to Message. and just like For example, Rodgo de Paul and Enzo just stay like suppor us. So like, you know, he move and they come He's like u I'll say magic, I don't know It's crazy. It's playing for him. Yeah So The players are there to make his life more easy You know. and hes His mercy differentiffere. It's difficult to explain him He's not tall You don't look strong B He hold players You tried to get the ball. No one can traditional This event to finish off, we do a f as side team, the best players that you played with No goalkeepers. No goalkeepers they're footballers. 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