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Certain players suit international football And by that I mean international football plays at a slower pace for most of the game. Who can then switch pace of the game Either with the ball running or passing it through the lines. Cobby Menu is that guy. He can do that. He's proved it innational level. And the two that are there They are great at other parts of the game, but their game are very similar. That's always talking about me being late. Where have you been logistic pling What's that mean? You you're very You're very quy, very, very quy don' I don't actually understand what's going on. You haven't got to worry about anything. All youve got to do is just start the pod discy That's a bit strange Fine, don't worry, man. you're cool. Everything's fine. I want to keep it rolling because this week we need to start talking about forwards, all right? The World Cup has been spicy The boys are scoring man, you got Messi with five goals. Vinny and Bapee, Harlan all with four goals Vinitius Junior becoming the first player, right since Rivaldo and Ronaldo to score in all group games at the World Cup. That is unbelievable stuff, man. I think this has been the best World Cup that I have seen in terms of the big players all turning up from from Dot agen in the group stages every one of the players that we wanted or that you think was going to score was some sort of impact for their team has done it. and all theames you mentioned have done that at some point in the group stages and I think it's great to see. And I think it justifies why there's more teams being put into this tournament because there there are some weaker teams, but it's allowed the bigger teams to maybe bully and get their foot in and get a bit of rhythm and those big players have taken full advantage of that. And so like I mean, look at Vinishus Junor. I think he wasn't even being spoken about St right? And he's just come out of nowhere and he looks like the player that we saw at Ramonduring that ballandor that he should have won year Um, And I think a shout out for Nymar. He's somebody that can do things that no other player on the planet can do. I'm not saying he's the best player on the planet. I'm just saying that he's the only player I think on the planet that can do things that there's no one else that can do because he's got that much talent, that much skill. And to see the reaction of the fans when he came on the pitch. There's only a handful of genuine absolute superstars at this World Cup. He is one of them and to see him fit on the pitch, creating free chances as soon as he comes on the pitch. Please. Please let us have some Brazil joger bunito at thisokeup. For sure have you enjoyed haveave you enjoyed watching Brazil Since you've been in Yeah, and I enjoyed watching them slap up Scotland as well. Can I just say something, Steve? canan I get a bit more energy and enthusiasm out of your voice? Did you enjoy seeing Brazil?. I just said yeah. I don you like I don't know who you support. It's like it's M man United or nothing That what's going on?'s again Come on man. it's the World Cup Comes around before your Have you been enjoying it? I've enjoying it. You got to show it you got to showare some love. I wonder how much of the Rio did mention it, but I wonder how much of the The goals that we're seeing flying in is because we've got like A handful, you know, a half a dozen, a dozen weaker teams in the mix and it's just allowing that little bit more of easing in. There's not really been major, major upsets just yet, has there? I don't agree with that because if you look at the first two games, you did have the smaller teams surprising people as well. So you had your Cate Verdes doing really well, you had your Congos in a first game doing well. you haven't You haven't seen a lot of the smaller teams concede as much as you thought they were going to concede there has been I think you always get an upset here and there that The first game of the last tournament for the eventual winners Argentina got beat by Saudi. Yeah It happens. But I think this time we've seen the big players be able to dominate and really get into their groove early. and I think I've got a young five year old. He's absolutely captivated because the big boys are scoring. If the big guys aren't scoring, he's not interested right now because he needs he needs messy Christiano S Salus Scad Harland. He knows all them guys Yeah kids at that age that next generation then they're not the the the Steeies and the Joeless and who know All the players, every player. He just knows Big superstars Dad, what are they doing, son They're banging goals. It's true, man. When you look at Kuna as well, Honestly, he's fastly becoming Brazil's number nine strikeer which You know, when they were first putting the teams together, I kind of doubted that a little bit. I thought, oh my gosh, they've left you know, our boy Jal Pedro at home. What's going to happen? This might be a really good thing for my United next season Yeah, I think Steve definitely his inuseding levels were jged up a little bit when now're talking about a man united play Cuna And I think for Manchester United, They'll be looking at this closely because I think Cesco has done really well when he came to May United, but he can't be the only number nine that we have at the footall club. So we'll be looking May United We' looking in transfer window this summer Kuna, I think will be sitting there going mayaybe you need to look for another left wingerate because I can be you back up number nine if need be there's a lot of talking about his in the left winger. Yeah. And at the same time there's a lot of talk about that dog who was considered a left winger. and you go How' that going to work then because that's too potentially in that position, but maybe you right, maybe Because he sort of played in half space anyway it Wolves and was more like it wasn't quite in the center and it wasn't quite in a wing. It was just sort of off a bit of angle he likes to come on the inside a little bit, Do doesn't tend to hug the touch line in a traditional sense Maybe having him playing off that side is what you need as an alternative and it's weird because We tried in boomo loads down the middle last season Not once did we try Kuna, I don't understand why. I mean, sometimes these tournaments they unlock things as well, which is the good thing. Speaking about Brazil How impressed have you been with how they perform so far? Blitz in the group, top of the table What do you reckon Yeah, I don't know if they've been that great. I think the opponents I think in a game or two have been probably under par what we've spoken about, but you still got to go on beat what's in front of you. but I would say Listen, Brazil for many years, especially my generation, were most people's second national team. you looked at. And they come away from that because they they've lacked the quality and they haven't performed in tournaments. But I think most people sitting again, you want to see the Brazil that like I played against with like the Ronaldos and the Rivaldos and Raldinios, ccera and this team They may not have those superstar names, but they could be they could become a team because they've got Angeloti at the helm, the manager who's one of the best managers of this generation. Can you cultivate an environment that is conducive for them to win now And it's not about the names. They had a team before where they could play very badly, but they had two or three players that would unlock any game. Yeah I think they've got Venicius who can be that If Neymar gets into his groove, he could be that. And they've got other players around that they really can I think consolidate their team and make them make them a decent team. I don't think they can win it But I do still want to see the superar performer but is doing that. You never know though, man. because I know you said they they've played weaker opposition, but they've got their groove back and I love seeing them the dancers back. That's what you want to see from Brazil. man the daners back, the vibes are good. Miro looks lean as well. Yeah, honestly, man. they're looking all right out of the back after the first game. first game was a bit but they're looking right out of the back. Steve there There's a lot of teams that off teams as you as we've mentioned Does anybody stand out for you to actually go on and win the tournament Germany have surprised me because I totally like written them off. I we would. I think I totally ignored I thought maybe a lack of goals with them But when I've seen them play I go. Naragllesman in it. He's actually getting more out of than some of the parts And that could be dangerous comeing to the l stages. and they've got they have got genuine quality and experience all the way throughout the team which just completely written them off. I think Holland as well Holl Holland looked Theyve got experience, like you said, they've got players who are dangerous as well They've got speed in their team I think they've got a lot of experience man and they They're a team I think that' gone under the radar massively, I think, but the obvious ones are I think France, what France can do through individual talent They can play The whole team at a six out of ten But when you've got Mmbae, when you've got Eise, when you've got Dembelle When you've got Due, when you've got Bola These guys are game changers at any level At the top tip top of the game, these guys on their own in one second can change the dynamic of a game and score a line. Eise player aournament so Elise by I have to argue what has to be Killian man. because I no, I'll be honest with you because Eise of course, he's opened up play. he's been amazing, but we have to remember what Killian has been doing here, right Goal scoring has been turn out of ten, okay? The tricks off the ball. I don't think I've seen another striker in the tournament score goals and give us the skills that we want at the same time. That's why I put him there. I'm not saying that Alica hasn't been good. He's obviously been who he is. but do you see the other day when he got notmed immediately not said no, I'm not having that. Gave him one back. Yeah. You know what I mean? B him down the line.' I have to give it to killing Anals. I also have to add that I thought France were going to get far like semis or the final, but I didn't have them down to win it Now I changeed my mind becausecause what I've seen so far, if it's not in Bapee, it's Dembelle. He's on the score sheet now. The way they moved, I thought Rabel was past it These guys are o Now the best play at the tournament. I think in Bape, yeah you can argue with him definitely, but E Elise makes me make noises that like when I was a kid makes me scream and stuff like Oh Oh my God. I'm jumping off my seat because pass he's moving people out of the way and hiss vision and he's execution at the past.'s him and Lemina Mau the two that do that for me They make me they make me feel about the game. Like did when I was a kid. Yeah. Like I'd go around my mate's house and sit there for hours on hours, just rewind in play, rewind in play constantly that VHS ye. Yeah, man. they're just they're just dream dream players, man. and I love it. and Bapa, yeah, I love them Bapppa as well. Doory else is quiitely impressed me is Mexico They've been brilliant, man, notot just their fans. They've literally cruised past it. England can get them in Mexico, was it the round of sixteen? That's not a good Where would it be as?ic don't h in this heat here Iagine that the third degree burns on some of our playersow while running around in that heat. Who would you say has been the most underwhelming team so far in the tournament? England England Do you reckon? No That's just an overreaction. That's typical of English people. Well maybe it is because of the expectation Well, were you expecting us to win it No, expect I expected to absolutely slap up Dana though That's disrespectful to Ghana Gana haveave you go through Ghana's te Most of them are pid in Europe But I'd still expected it It slap Ghana. We all expected No we didn't, I never expected that. The African teams are spoken to probably three or four managers of of probably teams that are in the top eight in the world leading into this tournament Every one of them's first reaction was being very hesitant. and apprehensive about games against African teed Drew man, they've been it's a pleasant surprise though. It'sos Yeah sitting in and making it difficult. But I was disappointed with how England couldn't find a way for it But that leads us on. I think we should talk about it. and I think it's important Englland Midfield L because I think that's a big talking point in the way that we play. And I said this going into the tournament on another episode of represents that If we play Anderson and Rice in midfield We're not a team I think that can control the game or actually can go do quick transitions through the pitch. because I don't think that's their best assets as two midfielders. They're great. Retrieving the ball at stopping. we saw some great stuff especially Anderson in terms of turnovers and winning the ball back and then s setittting us off again But being able to get the ball off the backline and transfer it through the team precisely through the lines into the ab more dangerous areas and the final third those players, that's not their first call and their best attributes as players Who are we going to have to do that? And that's why I f in especially in the group stages, Kobby Menu I thought was one of the players I think could come in and do that because his ability to beat the press first and then play or dribble through the press I think is better than Delland and Anderson because that's part of his game. But for who though, because we all know Paul Skoull said, and if you don't know, he basically said that the midfield isn't right T k he' be a team, right They're all about aggression and moving forward, but like you said, they're not really good at, you know what I mean, controlling the game If you're saying Cobby Manu comes out, then who sits out? comes in I don't know. I mean I would have before a balls kickedld I played Rice as the holder and I wouldd have played Um, Cobumanu alongside him and the one to be able to transfer the ball and I think you got to look at past touraments as well. Cobby Mainu's best footballer I think he's played in his whole career wasas at the Euros. O international scene U our best plan. He was getting likened to Clarence Seedalf for we' got on meets this week like one of the best flers of a generation He's he's a player, I think And certain players suit international football And by that I mean international football plays at a slower pace for most of the game. Who can then switch pace of the game Either with the ball running or passing it through the lines. Cobby Menu is that guy. He can do that. He's proved it innational level. And the two that are there They are great at other parts of the game, but their game is are very similar. in that So I think again, I think it something can be looked at Skolsi said something quite interesting. Jw Bllenham players are at one of the eights as well All through his career as a kid. he's played in various different midfield positions. he's a talent that can do he's a Swiss arrmy knife. if you can do any of those jobs. Crashing in late into the box. Yeah, he can do that. If you want him to hold. if you want him to be an you want him to be a ten, he can do all of them. and I think you can do all of them equally as good I think that Delan Rice and Anderson are just a bit too similar for me right now in the way we're playing. What you say? I think it just depends on who you playing and I think against Ghana half an hour into the game you could see what it was going to be like And I think having two what we would call holders, even though they're technically both really eights, but the role that they're in is like holders Probably would have switch one of them out Yeah., don'tind J Bellingam going in there, mayaybe putting in Rogerter so you've got another ten creative that's going to crash the box a little bit. playay with a little bit more risk. I didn't think the full backacks got forward enough Yeah for the way they were playing like you was up against They played a four for two You only need three back to defend that. I think Jed you could have rice. Yeah you probably use Jed a little bit, but like you could have rice and use two center arves and look after them two strikers. Maybe you needed a little bit more pace in there. That's fair. but We still had like a five but We didn't need a five bot. I agree And I think What's interesting is people are probably saying I don't want to see Rice and Anderson together. Against Panama, I think that's absolutely one hundred percent the correct thing to say. Yeah. But you pull up France or Argentina or Spain. They're the first two names on the team sheet because that's going to be their game is disrupting what they're doing, winning the ball and then playing it forward and it won't be pretty breaking the lines forward. It'll be hopefully sticking in the channel for people to run on to But my point is I understand what you're saying, But Deckler and most of these positions in that game we had the other day when we had the ball He was playing as almost a eight stroke nine with he' back to play high up the pitch. That's not Decklin, I don't think Declin's better face in the game You can drive with it If you want him to, you can break things up and he can play passes. T p have him up there as an eight or nine, surely you look at it and go S Cobby would be better there. Cobby would be better there. Jude Jude can play there. Yeah and I think yeah, if you're going to play today, I don't think you have to have two destroyers there. Like even against the best teams, like I still think you've got to think yourself att some point we're going to get the ball And when we do get it, even if we're going to have it probably Let's say we have it thirty five, forty percent at a time We need to actually be very efficient with the ball in their moments if we're having it so little amounts of time compared to our opposition So it's even sometimes even more important then that we've got players that can make those passes betweenetween the lines through the Alber teams midfield into our dangerous players Get the ball to Hurricane in one pass How do we whoo can do that? Right man, we got low ste t toacama out on this pod, but we'll be back shortly after this I want to bring it back to Clarence Seidorf. I mean, he did mention Declan Rice and he reckons he's a great player. Obviously on the Rio Mets interview. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. Wicked wicked chat onene of the goats man He said that he reckons Dlorus is a little bit timid U and u why for Nothing? You know, he he reckons he should have a little bit more of Jude Benen in him Bellin. He said he's risk ofverse I don't think you said you didn't say risk. what do you mean We say it then, what were are you trying to say? Ieresting Guys, let's not lose the ball So you a Dutch whoo was that Dutch wasn't Dutch. That was flawless. E the Spanishel for you guys who don't know. Do you reckon he's carried that into the international scene do you reckon? Yeah, because if you get told all year stop trying to pass the ball forward, just play for corners's going to bleed exagerated This iss why I don't ask you questions. This is exactly why I ask you questions That's why don't sh you I think with with Dclan Rice. I think he's got so many great attributes. I think he's a top player He's one of the main reasons that ask the w the League this year, okay. couldould be the main one But I would say, if you're looking to improve and become even more all round better player I think he needs to take some more risk in in the attacking third at the pitch and by that I mean. I don't mean he has to be someone who's like Bruno making passes from forty yards, thirty yards trying to make be the assist man Simple things, tweak one thing at a time I'll be saying to him, listen Three shots each half Two or three shots each half. And if one of them it'its a target, keep has to save it. he might not, it might go in or reband it. But become a threat in something else somewhere else in your game. twowo or three shots a game I mean, a half And then you see where you go. It's a game It's a law of averages this game. Frank Lamp P Frank Lamp Park built a career on a law of averages. his game was listen, four times five times it depended on the game. If I get any opponent's box ball might drop to me once And then it's about how clinical I am and the work I've done on the training pitch and the reps I've done will determine whether that buall hits the back of the net. But if I'm not in there four or five times, Ain't really gonna be the player that I want to be And I think needs to just add one of those layers to his game. and I think the shoot in He becomes such a big problem. you can see shooting and his delivery is phenomenal. He starts shooting, right Making being a ft like that. What happens then Midfielders come out to him What happens then space behind those midfielders where he can then start playing balls into our more attacking players who then become a threat further up the pitch. So he's a threat in different ways then But I think again, like you say whether he's being told or whether it's just in him to be that. I think we have to see what that is, but I think it's down to him as a player to add new layers to his game. and I think he's intelligent enough to do that. We also have to remember though that Frank Lampard played with Jrogbder and husky and kind of players you could hold it up, and you wind him up, we've got Harry Canbro. Yeah I know, but it's a different game th't it. What are you talking about? I'm just saying That's a bad comment. I don't need that stitch down. for your own sake say, man. What do you mean? just explain it then go on explain Can you explain that mo on guys There's shouts about Marcus Rashford and Bacaayo Saka starting, you know, I don't think people are really feeleling the Medu K and Anthony Gordon Forward lines up top What do you reckon I think Saka is carrying an injury. That's why Madare is starting. Yeah. I think Madare, I think the manager summed it up perfectly when he was asked why Madere. his season this year has been an impact fler coming up supporting cast for for Saker and I think he's done really he's done well at doing that and he understands. So you need players understand that role. I think because of the injury to Saker or what he might be carrying, he's been forced to start him. I think that will change as the tournament goes on if England stay in and second gets more fitness because even the other day he came on he has a shot could have been easiily a guy was a good sa from the keeper. he's got an efficiency that is hard to match from many England players are succer So I think he eventually he will start And I think I was I was actually surprised that Rash of Da didn't start or actually didn't come on earlier in the game Yeah but to ten minutes. Yeah because what he done the last game, he was he was he was potent He looks really, he looks like he's matured, I think. I think' spell in Barcelona has been the best thing that could have happened to him. You won him back at United, didnt it And I think I said I think it needs to be reevaluated. I think It was a hard no before from everybody, all people at the club about Marcus Rash coming back That chapter's closed. this go. I think that chapter is now open and people having a little look back hold them. S him his makeup a little bit different. I think he's more confident again. I think he looks more confident in himself. He seems to have cheered up a bit and he's matured with that. I think it's now a conversation that can be had within the football club about bringing him back now. Do you know what the difference is with Marcus though really quickly? I think when he's not in the limelight, I think it's better for him. You know like he's at Barcelona and he's away from all of it. I think it's better for him. I think You said it the other day, Steve, if he comes back to Man United, I fear for him the spot thatight's going to be back on him because he's a superstar You know, he really is the main man, whether people like it or not. but he's the type of player where if he's not playing, remember there was a time where he's not playing and he's still making the headlines for something he hasn't done. and there's a lot of that in England. You've seen it, you know what I mean? And it just seems like people build you up and then they throw you away. I think United Fundbase is probably ret much done with him. I think there'd be zero patience. I think the first time he didn't track back, the first time he fluffed his lines on the shot, first time he made a bad decision I think the reaction from the fan base would be OTT. He's going to have to come out and have a conversation about the way the relationship with the fans has gone if he wants to stick around I think that's a requirement H Yeah, that would work. I think that would be great. I mean, I like us just simple. It really, really really comfortable environment, really safe space for you to just sit here and let us know how you feel I I go down well I think I think it would actually be required. And if you said, I've made mistakes But no, I felt I was treated harshly at times in this side ofver. I think a lot of people are going he probably was Big shout to Marcus Fresford. Okay. So Jose Marino, right? He's been seen speaking for the first time since he got the Ral Madrid job. Big shout out to and Fenwon Fenw Beast mode podcast Yeah abbsolutely smashing it. We love it. What did you reckon of his comments about managing egos and do you reckon he's the man to go in and do that? Well, he said it's a privilege to manage egos Whoo. And I think it's an unbelievable statement If you've got egos you got big players, espeally if they're the right players, right And if there's anybody who's going be able to handle him and control him, it'll be him because he's had loads over his career. and You don't get to play for Ramagin if you've not got an ego All of the players are playing in the starting eleven, especially A eigos and it' how best those players are managed So that's Tom Cruise flying his playing across there 't minded. Anywways, no. I think Jose de Marinio like, if anyone's going to hand the Weigos, I think he's somebody who knows what one looks like because he's got a massive one Right and you'll be able to deal with it. And I think that he's so right in what he's saying Yeah, there's egos here, but I'llal with it. I'll get through it and I'm happy to be doing that because I've got the right type of people here My biggest thing about it is is that And you're not going to get your money becausecause I keep seeing that talked about and he'd be one of the first midfielders on my list if we had a possibility of getting someone to go in there to replace Casimio, Chermani would be that guy. because he seems like the type of player that Jose will say You stay here. The problem is the Valverda situ that situation need. Okay, yes, yes. that was You've seen it before in football though. It's happened before people fall out fights. Why can't they fix it It depends what's happened and it depends how it finished Like these situations, I've seen fights at training and then the next day people are shaking hands, but that was a different generation. Can these guys get through it We believe what we heard and T Man's punched up. Val Vverde is Val Vverde the kind of guy who' going to go listen, I forget that or is hes gonna go listen? Unless he goes I'm g Like if that's the conversation's been happening it it's out the manager's hands it was incredible what Joose said as well. he said You know, he spoke about players and the egos and the proms he goes, but I want these players said, I want the best players and I'm not going lie That scared me. I thought that might ruin Arssel's chances of winning the Champions League next year because the way he was chatting, I thought That's the Jose we know and remember. he's still great in himC. Jose Marino at Real Madrid. is the best thing that's happened this summer so far. I can't wait. He's going to be box on box on this. You know what? I know I've been sitting there saying that Joseees is going be the man to reintegrate like Tumania and Valverta together and keeping them at Realm Madrid, but I've got to say, if Ch Mani has a half a sniff of getting out of that club, Mayight have to be the first team at the door knocking and make sure he can't even talk to anybody else. G him signill delivered. Ch Mani. I know you've had a few conversations in private, but man, I know you watchs to show. looking down the lens right now at you behind these shades There's only one club for you, man. If you're looking to leave Ralmadrid, we are the club, May youre not own a club, man. If you want to make it up and make the call That' what do If not, you can always come to Arsenal. You don't want to go Asenal. You don't w to go, you don't need him. you don't want to go to you not I reckon players can get over things. I mean, you've seen players fighting in the dressing room. Look at the situation with Wayne Rooney and Cristiana Ronaldo at the World Cup. Big, big issue Wink redot like it was there was no drama with them too though, but there was. No there would have been. This is the point. So in that situation. That's why teammates are important in that situation after the game. Christiano come to me and said, C can you speak to Wuaza? G Wazan, to h want to speak to him So I went on the coach, got Wazer and said to him, come come and see Crosiano And they had a conversation there and then. Yeah And it's like And then the manager when they came back brought him in and spoke to him and just where Jose iss going to be important because Again, the respect that those those clers will have for Jose immediately will be there And it's how that is managed and navigated is going to be key. but You've got you need at least one of those guys to be on side and want to want to make it right Because when the first person makes that call and goes, you know what and they soften the other person by going, you know, listen, man, whatever's happened, I apologize and the most important thing a team here L just put this to as side, we're never going to be best mates anymore But I'm never whenever' go for dinner. We need to win. we want to win together. I think you've skirted past that a little bit too quickly. This is the insight that we get on this platform, which is incredible So Do you know the words that were said between Cristiano and Wayne in that period? Th situations there. I want them to sort it out. I don't need to be the guy. I need to put them together and then they sort it out like and and I knew I know thatayne loved one Christiano I know Christiano loved Waza and I know there was a genuine respect between them Yeah. and I know that both of them were winners And they want to win for May United and they' both And the reason they're having that conversation, why Christiano wanted that conversation is because he knows he's got to go back to May United and he knows he wants to win and will of us want to win So he wants to make it right as soon as possible And I thought it was for two so young I thought it was a really, really good example of of the right mentality, maturity and making sure they got the timing right around a really delicate situation. And it also shows that Mr. Ronaldo is a team player as well. I I don't don't have to reiterating. What did really say when you got back to because he must have reported back to you once' spoke. Yeah, why was weren' happy? Don't get me wrong, was not sitting there now, it wass a great conversation and that's it gone. He weren't it wasn't that, But these things again a seed has been So and then he's sitting there he's got a tournament and a summer to get through. And then the manager then comes in at the end and goesisten boys What did he say? Was it one there that was de between them, but what's mad to me is that there was any hint of an issue between Ronaldo and Rooney anyway Roononey stomps all over Car Aio Nothing to do Chrisian or another But the wink What do you mean the w? was the w? The w you could have been anything you could have been life's becausecause you don't care about England, right? No ultimately The way the way that was drapped up on TV Anoneright pissed me off that day as well because he went in hard on the wink thing You have no idea what he was winking at? But it was obvious though wasn't it? No C on No like they could have gone, right. The down of ten men Turn the screw. sound. They couldn have not after you go and you have a serious chat. if you're a referee, right? What do you honestly think that Ronaldo was likeying We got himself No because really stood all over himself on his mount O his you're playing against someone dont care what happens, you're your position at that time. And if I' got to get you sent off with a wink or whatever it is's happen he wasn't sent off because of the wink. The wink was after the incident. and so we don't know no It's all this is my point is it's all an assumption here. So we're all assuming that happenens. Why do we do this when it comes to That's the British mia That's the British media forllow you I don' know what you mean? Be becausecause it sounds like we're h but we don't know if he winked and what he do he was trying to instigate for Wayne to get sent off. That's what you were talking about. didid he wink at the ref? No about Yeah, but how was he instigating for him to get his own b of the day? How is that wink making him get an old? It don't matter because it's like you're taking it a step too far. No no, no thing about did that wink contribute to Wayne Rony getting a rec card? We got to look the footage,? Are you crazy? It was it was like ten minutes afterwards you probably hing me mines Let' exaggerate because it's Ranal. No no, wait how How does a wink? So have you ever seen a wink? a minute to a referee, you go, like that and then a referee goes you the bench we b Let me play it really simply, right You know when you've got someone pushing the agenda people don't like that whether it's the referee, whether it's to their teammates, whatever it is in that scenario, your m mom's not going what happened? Your moms happened and gone. What happened Carvalio and Runoney are going for a fifty fifty. Carvalio hits the deck, Runoni stumps all over his b Ronaldo comes in and goes like that The referee sends Rooney off. There's a bit of melee And then at some point afterwards because I wasn't in the stadium, I don't know, Ronaldo winks to his own bench, which we have no context of what was why. So why? whyy then is is Cristiana Ronaldo trying to squash it with Wayne Rooney? becausecause the media create a whole big narrative and story and make it Rooney versus Ronaldo. That was already the case. That was it. So why does he have to say anything if it the media then because itbody say anything You just leave it if you know it's not you. That's what I said. Oh 'use Ian Wright said something. Then Pristiano said, all right, let me because Ian Wright said something all the way back in the UK. No, let me finish, right? Because that's how the media narrative of got shaped straight away on British TV, there was this witch hunt against Ronaldo because they'd spent so long building Rooney up because of his foot injury that they was like, we can't go back on Rooney. He's our hero So we need a scapegoat, boss Christian that's why Christiano went to. I don't understand how you can't see, right? that if an narrative is being built you don't want to nip it in the bud. How did we know what the narrative was? Because they've just finish the game. Because you've got a whole press team in your dressing room. Yeah. The press team are gone you got man United and you would have manan United' press team, ring Portugal's press team and going, listen, this needs to be sorted out because it's getting out of hand Okay, Ronaldo, I'll go and talk sort that out. I'm mature enough to do that. Did you know did you know there'd been a shit storm straight away? Yes, there you go It's the first thing everyone's talking about. Waz has been sent off he's the biggest player in our team If if he's off the pitch, we don't win it So it's going to be a huge story Wh's it the center with it Oh someones seing him wink, they're assuming that he's winked. They're assuming like you that he got sent off because of that. Oh Oh Let's t over over here We're digging deep here guys.'re digg deep.t want They didn't want to blame. Let's blame. Christiana Renald Yeah That's how it went, though. That's how went. Well, you wouldn't understand becausecause it's a m unetited player. they get treated differently. Oh would That's what you need to know So truly don't understand that. They have to relax. Oh man, okay, look, listen, you let us know what you think happened in the comments. It's been absolutely brilliant here today. L little bit of fire. that's what we need on the channel. Listen, please I still annoyight maybe twenty years ago mate. Please make sure you keep on going in the comments. We've got fantastic Rio meets. We just had Carence se it off on the channel. It's got to be up there overready. You know what we're going to continue this debate around the pool. I'm not happ with this I've got, man, I'm I' reck bottom you put your arm,t,.'m put your arm because you might get thrown in. Listen, I'm ready I'm ready to stand up. You know what I'm saying? I know what happened. I was there. But listen, please make sure you like, share, comment it and subscribe. We're loving the interaction. You guys have been brilliant across social media You've even been voice noting fans. Yeah, most what we do, getet in chat guys Get in a chat. the Instagram we' got chat ro there, get getting in there and you see some of the stuff's going on Joel missing training, Steve You attended his training and me training. Ladies and gentlemen, Joel Bayer, Stehven Nilson, Rio Ferdinand, signing out Pace
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