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Welcome to the second half of partart one of the Case of MackKenzie Sabbella In the first half of part one, we went through a lot of what people have been saying about Mackenzie Serilla's personality, getting to know all of her school disciplinary records, how she was trying to be a social media influencer, a lot of her private Instagram DMs because we received a two thousand page document of just her Instagram direct messages that were A little eye opening, as well as the fact that once she woke up from the car crash as the sole survivor after Dominiic Russo and Davonne Flanagan were killed in the car crash, she claims that she doesn't remember a single thing. She doesn't remember pedal to the metal going nearly a hundred miles per hour straight into a brick building, never touching the brake She doesn't remember anything So with that being said, this is the second half. teext messages from almost exactly a year before the crash, MackKenzie tells Dom, mayaybe when you can actually formulate a sentence yourself and not just repeat what I said last, I'll take this fucking conversation seriously To which Jom responds, WTF, S, I don't say anything mean. You just purposely try to say hurtful things. You say that, I'm not going on vacation with you. You say you're not gonna do anything for me anymore. Like what? You said you were going to break up with me too. likeike that's all verbally abusive. When you want to fix this on both ends, let me know Mackenzie responds, I'm allowed to say how I feel and if you don't like that, then that sucks. Why would I want to go on vacation with someone that won't even give me one gram of free weed? So this is literally just her getting mad that he's not giving her weed. He tells her he does give her weed of like free weed all the time, right? He's like, what do you always demand weed from me? I'm giving it to you. L what do you She just responds too bad because I don't want your whack ass weeed anymore. I never wanted it again. He's like, so we're done over that. Is there someone else Like you literally got me thinking about quitting weed And she blames everything on Dom. Now a lot of people might take this as The truth, but I will say consistently over thirty thousand something pages, this is like a pattern of Mackenzie. anything wrong happens in her life, she blames somebody. So she says, how are you gonna get me addicted to weed and then not give me weed when I need it? Like the fuck so fed up with your shit. I personally don't think that Dom got her addicted to weed. I think that I mean, they're all teenagers. I think that she would have discovered weed regardless of Dom I don't even know if he's the one that introduced it to her or if they both started at the same time. L she just likes to blame everyone for all of her problems. too which Dom responds, Kenzie. I try to tell you not to rip bongs at six in the morning But you do it every day She responds, That's not the problem, hun. I give you free weight. That doesn't mean you can smoke as much as you want. Kenzie, you smoke like a chimney and you're being mean as fuck to me right now Even when he's trying to be level headed and worried for her health, she's just kind of freaking out on him. She just kind of expects him to do everything for her, even emotionally be there for her no matter what she's feeling. and McKenzie feels a lot of things seemingly all the freaking time. When Dom is going on a flight to California, he texts MackKenzie that it's really annoying because he's in the middle seat, quote, I'm in between two people, I don't know She responds WTF Yeah, right. So he's thinking, oh my gosh, like she's feeling bad for me, I'm going to need to know if it's a girl He reassures her it probably won't be anyone to worry about. I haven't seen anyone that is attractive at all. justust mostly weird looking people One person who knows the couple says, none of Dom's exes would even keep in contact with him because they all knew Mackenzie was kind of crazy. She's pych But it seems like he's just expected to do everything, even pay for her. In text messages, they're discussing a potential trip to New York City Dom is asking her, canan you afford it whichich is like a completely normal question to ask because New York City is one of the most expensive cities in the U.S to visit, so it's a completely valid question. MackKenzie freaks out. Actually, maybe I don't want to go with you if you're going to be like that. I'm not going on vacation with you, so I'm done talking about this. Why are you literally being crazy right now? to which Jom respond Kenzie, you're being craz She responds, Dom, I'm filling out a fucking job application while you're spamming me Dom is just so taken aback. He's like, you're trying to make me feel obligated to spend thousands on you She responds in caps, then don't question M Which side note about her filling out a job application, MackKenzie was fired from multiple jobs. Those who worked with her said that she was just like a shit employee for Dunkin Donuts. She had just gotten her hair done. The day, I think of coming into her shift. So the manager tells her, hey, you know, it's like part of the uniform. You have to wear the Dunkin hat because everybody wears the Dunkin hat and like you work for Dunkin so you't wear the dunk hat And she is so offended by this. She's sending like voice notes to her friends and she's like, can you believe that they told me to wear the hat? And I was trying to explain to them, I just got my hair done so I can't wear the hat And the manager was telling her, you can't expect us to let you have special privileges and treat you differently from any of the other employees like you have to wear the hat. MackKenzie quits on the spot, leaves a horrible review for the Dunkan Donuts location, which normally, I side with the employee, but it's very interesting that she genuinely does not comprehend why it's inappropriate for her to be treated differently than other employees. fuddles her. To her, it's just like, what's the big deal about a hat whichich like sure, maybe if it was one time, but she strikes me as the person to have a new reason every single time. Today it's the hat. Tomorrow it's the, oh, I can't help you clean something because I just got my nails done. Like it's always something One pering hot at a fast food restaurant It's health cld. What is you So one peer tells officers later, I mean, she worked with my stepsister at Dung and Donuts for a little bit That's all I know. And then my stepsister told me that she was a terrible worker. She's just rude to everyone. She just didn't care. She'll post on her Instagram stories a picture of a bag that's for sale, a purse And then she DM Dom. this is a new bag. It's silver He's confused. He's like, why are you posting it on your Instagram story Just in case someone wants to buy or send it to me Um, LOL, okay. Babe, only four hundred dollars She also sends him a link to Venus Flowers, the forever Flowers. And then she sends another link to a pair of boots that are three and a half thousand dollars. It's like three thousand four hundred dollars for a pair of boots. Dom responds, those are so gas. She responds, I want them He's trying to be reasonable. The price tag on them is crazy, though. Do you think you can walk in them McKenzie ignores and DMs him post a pick of us On IG? Yes picture. You pick I'll see what I got She texts him another time. I'm at Norse Strems. If I see a skim's dress, can I buy it But like maybe the relationship is not always all the time one sided. Maybe MackKenzie does a lot of things for Dom two In one text message exchange, MackKenzie text Dom, I'm bringing home sushi and calamari for you Tom says, Bet Mackenzie responds, I got sushi from this place and they literally gave me the most gross shit ever to which Dom is confused and he's texting her back place And what sushi are you bringing me? it isn't gonna to be gross, right? McKenzie responds toorrow So it feels like she's bringing him gross shit, like the leftovers Even Pom Mackenzie says that she got a super custom, very expensive dress that Dom paid half of the entire dress. He even rented a party bus justress for the two of them because everybody hates McKenzie at school so she have no friends to join her party bus. And there's videos of the two of them in the party bus alone and it looks like Dom is doing everything to make sure MackKenzie is having a good time He's singing for her, he's trying to make her laugh. He's, you know, he's trying to uplift her mood MackKenzie says everybody told us we looked like movie stars that night. Dom ever hangs out with the boys without Mackenzie. There's many a times where she gets so upset by that. She'll have these very smart Instagram DMs. Have fun with a dick and your ass Bow time If you think I give a single fuck about Blair, so Blair is Dom's best guy friend, okay There was like because Blair keeps coming up, there was this misconception on TikTok that Blaair was a girl that Dom was cheating on Mackenzie with. This is not true at all, like Blair iss a guy, right? And there is no indication that they were having any sort of romantic relationship, right? So just clearing the air on that. She's saying, If you think I give a single fuck about Blair, you're wrong. It's okay though, Just deal with your super important bro time. Like, are you actually fucking Blair? Do you want me to pull up to your fucking house right now with a fucking bat? Like fucking beat Blair's ass? Then he'll really be scared to come around. So be careful with who you choose first Again, there's no indication whatsoever that Dom and Blair are romantically involved, not saying that anything would be wrong if they were, but there's literally none. Even though McKenzie's overreaction of a message almost seems like something is happening, no, she's just upset because he wants to hang out with his best friend which Dom tries to calm McackKenzie down, I'm not choosing him first. Mackenzie, ever so calm, ever the voice of Reason, responds, because I will fucking kill him on God This is all because he makes Plans with Blaair But Mcenzie wanted him to cancel those plans because she suddenly decided she wanted to go out to eat with Dom So Don reaches a compromise that he doesn't even need to compromise on, but he offers, If you want to go out to eat, we can go in an hour. It's pretty simple. He's like, I'm not just gonna cancel on Blair, but like we can go out to eat in an hour. Mackenzie responds, You're literally pathetic. His dick must be big if you like it that much. I'll just go with someone else who actually wants to be around me and cares about my health Thanks for literally doing nothing She's saying health because Eating cattle But it's like, . Many of Dom's friends have reported that they don't really understand why Dom put up with Mcenzie. They all thought that he could do way better with one of Dom's friends reporting to the police. One time we were in this candy shop and this was after they had gotten over arguing and everything like that. and she was like, either buy me something or shut the fuck up No's trying to listen to you. He says Dom would always buy her designer and she would always post on her TikTok as if she bought the designer and she would call people out for like being broke Side note, that seems to check out because in an Instagram DM exchange, MackKenzie is arguing with another person and McKenzie is telling them, mind your business. And they come back responding. And so this doesn't seem like an internet hater, it seems like someone who knows McKenzie in real life. And they're responding. I'm just saying, it isn't your money if you don't earn it yourself. I'm not trying to start shit. I'm just so confused on how you talk shit on people being broke, but you flex money that isn't yours and you didn't earn For real not trying to start shit so you don't even got to respond. Sorry, I was just confused and then realized you probably would take it the wrong way. so I deleted it. Sorry, LOL, like you can't say you're not broke if it's not your money. That's all I'm trying to get and everyone agrees with me. Like ask anyone, anyone who is real with you and honest will agree with me. And yeah, you're spoiled and that's fine. Just don't go around calling other bitches broke when you don't even have your own money yourself Please be more self aware and you say you hate fake friends, but every time I've been with you or I hear about you, you're talking shit about someone, it's just not a good look. Mcenzie responds something along the lines of like, yeah, go work your subway shift. Baby, you work at Subway. You're not even close to being in my league. I need you to stop texting me right now. They stoped texting her. so she hits them back with so that comment hit close to home for you, huh And they respond, what comment, bro, all I'm trying to get at is reality. If you do not earn the money you spend, it's not your money. So don't go around saying you hate broke bitches. when in reality, if Dom or your parents left, you would be broke too. You depend on other people for money and the fact that you say you hate fake friends, but eighty percent of the stuff that comes out of your mouth is talking shit about someone else If you don't want fake friends, don't be fake yourself is all I'm trying to get at. Mcenzie neverever has a moment of self reflection ' sometimes like you can get into fights but still have a moment of like, Maybe they're onto something. Maybe I should reflect. But she says, it's okay babe. I would probably be mad if I was broke too And she says, baby girl, and you just stopp texting me, you're actually weirding me out. Like we aren't friends and haven't been friends in sophomore year. Now stop being worried about my life and go worry about your schedule for sububway next week She's just kind of a bitch. I don't really know how else to put it After this whole exchange, it appears MackKenzie goes to rant to another friend about it because she's damning her friend about quote unquote, the haters and the friend responds to her trying to comfort her. ugly girls will never understand if you're pretty, you're never broke. So what if your boyfriend pays for you? If I was her boyfriend, I wouldn't pay for shit because damn, what the fuck is that talking about how the way the way that person looks Mackenzie continues literally and she's trying to like talk shit on me like it's repulsive. Do you know how badly I wanted to say worry about your own weight instead of my pockets? But I didn't want to body shame just in case I'm gonna to be famous soon and I can't be cancellled.. That's insane Do you know when this was sent like a few months before the crash Did become famous? Yeah Mackenzie is also the type of girl that absolutely hates when people copy her or even when she thinks people are copying her. and she needs Dom to comfort her for the very big emotions that come with People copying her She says Redacted got the same wheel cover as me. likeike, you know, the fucking pink, fuzzy wheel cover. Steering wheel cover. Yeah. MackKenzie texts him so fucking weird. L what the fuck question mark question mark, question mark? Gum is like, do you think she knew? She deathf knew How did you even find out? Even Chloe told me, I accidentally parked next to her LMo like with the fuck Dom is like, she's probably gonna to be terrified Because again, that's how terrifying Mackenzie is. Just the fact that she found out that you have the same steering wheel cover. and she's going to be terrified that she found out. att some point, I don't know if it's the same girl or another girl, but McKenzie is telling Dom that she wants to beat her up to which he tells her not to get in trouble That's all he says. He's like, maybe not because you're going to get in trouble. donon't get in trouble. And she's upset No, you were actually weirdest fuck and do not talk to me. Dom's trying to explain, I just don't want you to get in trouble. He's like the voice of reason But McackKenzie isn't having it. She feels like Dom worrying about her getting in trouble is quote, let's not defend a fucking whore You're actually weirdest fuck, and you can go fuck her if you want to defend her because I don't need nobody I'm not defending her. It's weird as fuck. I mean, sure she stalks you. Why are you going overboard on me? I just don't want you to get in trouble and I don't want you super worked up over that. Like she's obviously just super salty or jealous of you or something anyway It seems like at this point he's just trying to make her feel better. And she's like, and you obviously got something on your mind with them long pauses. We're just gonna break up if I have to fight for you. Babe, I have no interest in her. I don't know why the bitch stalks you What you low key just offended her earlier? So are you sure about that defend her. I just didn't think you needed to fight her A lot of conversations seem to end with Dom being the voice of reason and yet giving up near the end of the conversation because Mcenzie will not see anything from any perspective that is not her own. Mackenzie is in my opinion, about as agreeable as a fucking nuclear weapon. She starts messaging Dom on Instagram in the midst of a fight. If I fucking call you, you have three goddamn seconds to answer unless you're actually busy, which most of the time you're not She continues to go off on him. You are literally a fucking idiot. You're about to lose the best thing that ever happened to you and you're never gonna find anything better than some other cracked out bitch who just likes taking dick in her ass. You have until the end of day to actually fucking fix this, and I'm not telling you how. And if you don't fix it, then I'm moving on with my life and I don't need you to be happy. You have five seconds to say yes or no, or I'm blocking you and moving on size Four. She's like sending separate messages. fiveive. four She loves her countdowns Four, three, two, Dom finally responds. Let me type, Damn Mcenzie responds in all caps, I don't care I done with you. Type, arere you slow? Like, godamn question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark. So slow It's going to be so hard to come back from this one, especially since you like to lie and fake apologize just to get your way, literally a little boy. Like I thought you were a man, clelearly not Dom is clearly confused Like he doesn't know what's happening. He's like, Answer the phone Like I feel like you can't believe that. I don't have any bad intentions. I fought for you so hard this past year. Are you for real I know you didn't type that In the five seconds I gave you, like that's what you say, Are you for real? N word. You have two seconds to send that text. It better be good, slow ass N word. Like holy fuck. Dom finally responds You're flusttering the shit out of me. It's hard to read all your messages and then send mine within five seconds, like damn care at all you're crazy for thinking I have bad intentions MackKenzie responds in an almost unintentionally ironic way in caps. You literally suck and just bring me down. Don't know. So she's blowing up just that he didn't answer his phone right away. In three seconds. Yeah. Like she well, she's blowing up for honestly, like nothing ever. It could be anything. This is through Instagram DMs. So this is he wasn't responding through text in the way that she wanted So then now she's come to Instagram DMs and she's just like ranting and usually like it takes a minute because they don't really give context to the fight, obviously because they're texting each other. But then once you figure out what the fight is about, it's like Absolutely over nothing And so Dom is responding, I do everything for you. I ask for nothing. You bring me down. You don't let me chase any of my dreams. You always say that you come first MackKenzie doesn't respond to any of the things that Dom is saying. She says, I'm going give you til the end of the day to apologize and figure out what you did. If you don't actually make this up to me by the end of today and make it good and make me actually believe you, then we are done and I'm moving on with my life Kenzie, it's not me I'm sorry, but it's not me anymore You're doing this, you're making us break up. Yes, I know I'm doing this because I have standards unlike you. Now this is your last chance because I will move on. If you think you're going to be anything without me, you are a joke. I would answer now Kenzie, I'm not afraid of any of that anymore. L I'm all or nothing. I love you, but I don't have to be with you if you're gonna try to do this to me. Once again, she ignores him and writes back, or else, you're gonna to get blocked and I'm going to start texting people Kenzie, you can be with me or go Is that your answer So you're just not going to make this up to me by the end of the night I don't even know what I'm making up. This is ridiculous. Is that what you're saying? I would answer. Is that what you're saying? Youven until six o'clock or you're blocked and we're done forever. I will literally burn that fucking scrapbook zero fucks given I love you, but I'm not doing this. This is is crazy. I don't get it Wow, okay, we're done. lastast chance. I've given you over three chances today. This is your last chance to make things right and make it up to me by six. answer now. now, now now Dom is so genuinely confused by this, he asks her Did all my messages send He literally he's thinking maybe she's not getting his messages and that's why she's ignnoring him and just freaking out unreasonably. Menzie confirms Yes or no. I don't give a fuck about your messages. Kenzie, I don't know what I'm making up Probably don't mean shit anyway. I don't care because you're dumbest fuck. You have until six. I'm not telling you how to fix anything. You're saying I talked bad to you. Is that what I'm making up? Yes or no. Okay, you have until five now Kenzie, yeah, I'll make up whatever, but I don't think any of this is really necessary. Are you serious? Like, I know you didn't just say that. How fucking dumb can you be? This is a very small argument and you're putting our relationship over it. I don't get it. She later quotes him and says because he said something along the lines of like, I don't think She quotes, I don't think. and she says This is not about what you think. You're literally dumb as fuck I feel so bad. how the fuck are you not getting that it's more than that and more than this. You lie, ignore, gaslight, dry reply, I can keep going So she like throws out these words, but I don't find evidence of any like gaslighting in the text messages and stuff. If anything, it's like miscommunication I really don't. I would watch her reply I might dry reply sometimes. four. So it went from six to five to four. She's like, you got to make it up to me by four PM now If this isn't made up to me by four o'clock, we're done. This is my last text message He's like, I don't gaslight. I don't do any of that. I never intentionally ignore you. four hundred thirty Tom respondse Can't be every week, babe indndicating that this happens every week and after reading all their text messages, it's like multiple times a week, actually. It's really bad. She responds, youre right Next time you do this, we're done, no explanations He's trying to get it through to her. Like I feel like you don't feel I love you What the fuck are you talking about? Look, Kenzie, this shouldn't end our relationship. All I'm saying is like, I'll do whatever to make you happy, but I feel like you're being unreasonable today because of your stress over your toe and your nose and school It's like, I don't know what happened This is me saying this. like I don't know what happened, but like these seem like non problems. 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She literally sends the exact same message four times. and he tells her, you're being childish, I'm not entertaining it. So we're done. Is that what you're saying? You're not gonna to make this up to me by four o'clock. We're just gonna go through the cycle. If you do not answer the fucking question, you are blocked and I'm going to start texting new people like I'm so serious Clearly, you don't even want a girlfriend. Five Sooy Three, two Dom responds, whyy are you doing this? Like I don't get it I mean, we can make a three This isn't love If this is made up to me by three o'clock, if it's not, we're done This isn't healthy. this isn't right. L we can make it so much better than this. You're right, We can make it so much better after you make it up to me at three o'clock and prove you're gonna to do better. Until then we are broken up. I would watch what you say from this point on because one thing that I said wrong will result in instant blocking and I will literally start talking to new people Dom doesn't respond for an hour before MackKenzie DMs him again. I'm would take this as you're not making this up to me Answer right now. Answer right now Kenzie, if you want tona be in my life, you will be. If you want to leave, I'm not stopping you. So you're not going to change your attitude and make it up to me. So you're not going to make it up to me. Yes or no Kenzie, you have a bad attitude too. It's a yes or no question. It's aes or no question. and this is about you, not me Kenzie, no, this is about you and you're making it about me. You have a bad attitude, babe, you called me with a bad attitude first and I'm not doing this anymore. I love you, but I have to set boundaries for myself too This is february twentieth, twenty twenty two. Five months later, Dom will be dead I'm not singling out this like one toxic fight that happened months in advance where McKenzie is clearly suffocating Dom over and over again, not respecting his boundaries I'm emphasizing that this happens multiple times a week Like even okay, when you go to part four where we go through the text messages, it would be like a five day long video for me to recount in full every single fight that MackKenzie starts April twenty twenty two, for example, it happens all over again and this is just from their Instagram DMs. okay? because the text messages are in part four. This is from their DMs. april twenty twenty two, it starts all over. Dom resorts to DMing her because she blocked his text from coming in and he's confused. Which side note, all of this. is happening because Dom did not jump at his feet, jump up, enthusiastic about wanting to take McKenzie to the grocery store She says, I want to go with you But I want you to try without me telling you, you have to try. You only try when it's too late. so now it's too late. He responds, when was I not trying? We've been doing this all day I don't care. No, you have not Why would I want to be around you after you just did all this bullshit all day What have I done? I've only apologized over and over again all day while you call me names T twoo minutes to be at my house to take me to the grocery store sixty seconds Fty five seconds Okay, I'll be on the way in a sec. Then he DMs again on the way. thenen he DMs when he shows up at her house here. Even just two months before Dom and Daveian are killed, they're in another fight through Instagram. And sign not, by this point, MackKenzie is essentially living with Dom. She's seventeen, herer parents have let her move in. But this fight, Dom tells her, Kenzie, I'm not going to talk to you tntill you acknowledge what you did wrong And side note, I don't want anyone to be under the impression that I'm taking creative liberty in the tone of Dom's voice because there is a video fight of them and most people say that Dom was like a very chill speaker. He never is yelling, screaming. Kenzie is always yelling, screaming. So it's not that like I'm trying to phrase Dom's voice to be more passive. likeike there's a literal fight where she is outside banging on his door and this is how he talks. This is his cadence. He's always trying to diffuse. He's never flipping out. There's one part where he does raise his voice at Mackenzie and McKenzie intentionally records it, but it almost seems like The man is so frustrated Like he's like He's like stop, like don't stop, don't talk. Like you're saying disrespectful shit, like stop this fight, it appears that he does not want Kenzie at his house because she's being rude and mean to him, which is completely understandable and a healthy boundary to set But she argues that he's holding his house over her head and she's not going to let him do that Which side note, she does not pay rent. This is not her house. She doesn't pay mortgage. She's not on the title of the deed. It's also not like he kicked her out of nowhere. She could literally just go home to her parents where she should probably be living. Mackenzie escalates the fight. I'll come today and take all the shit I got right out of that house. So she's like, fine, I'm moving out for good doing anything. Like you have been being mean to me and have not stopped since this morning. All you have to do is apologize to me about how you're saying hurtful things. I'm done listening to this bullshit and I'll talk to you when you're in a better state And no, Kenzie, I'm not holding anything over your head. I don't want you here if you're acting like this So you're saying that I'm not allowed to come to the place I sleep at every night No, Kenzie, I told you that you can talk to me when you say sorry and coming here is part of it So you're holding it over my head is what you're saying If you can't apologize or realize what you did wrong, I don't want you around me What we're not gonna do is hold the place that you say I could stay at whenever I want over my head She starts a video chat, he does not pick up. Mackenzie goes off, to which Dom says Kenzie, I just don't want you to come here and have problems. I'm doing the mature thing and avoiding petty conflict. and if you cared, you would have stopped too Kenzie does not listen. He's trying to escalate. She says, we're not going to play this game I'm not letting you hold a place that that I live in over my head. You don't even care enough to be replying fast No Kenzie, I don't want you here because I don't want conflict and you never said sorry either. I'm not gonna to apologize for doing nothing and I want to come over to eat not to talk to you. I'm just gonna to sit on the couch and ignore you, but there's you holding it over my head again. You can let me come over and eat or you can bring me all the stuff that I brought over to your house and we can be over Approximately three minutes go by, Dom hasn't responded, so Mackenzie writes, Not sure why you're being dry and not responding. Dom responds, I mean, you did call me the R word, called me a pig, said a lot of nasty things, and now you want to come eat my food without apologizing Let me know if you're going to keep holding it over my head or not because I will just get all the pots and pans and stuff I bought to your house right now I'm not trying to hold it over your head. If you can't respect me, how do I expect you to respect my house? He says that there's still coffee on his door from whichich seems like he's saying like she threw coffee. And there's coffee on the door But she ignores that and says, like I said, I will come get everything that I brought over and holes in my wall The holes in your wall are not from me, so are you not letting me come in the warming punch. Yeah We're like throwing things. I would imagine. yeah. And so Dom says, if you can't prove to me, you're going respect me and my home or at least t the very least apologize. I don't want you here. L if you want me to leave your things outside, I will to which Kenzie says, you can put everything in a box in. If you're not gonna to let me come to the place that you said I could always come, then put everything that I brought in a box and I'm coming to get it. If you're not going to let me stay at this house, then we are done. I'm not going to be in a relationship with somebody that likes to lie and tell me things that are not true. You are making this so much worse. Is this not what gaslighting is? Yes And like I do think how is that like how does she put it on him? Like someone give you a place to stay now she Yeah. Turn it around, make it I don't That's holding it over her head. That's gasline. Yeah. it's very manipulative. I think sometimes I do have The problem with a lot of these encounters between Kenzie and Dom being categorized as toxic in the sense that I do think that if the roles were reversed, I don't know if we would be labeling these fights as toxic. I think we would be much more easily labeling them as completely abusive. Like it's just really abusive. There's not really a lighter way to put it And so Dom responds, Kenzie, you are. like all that was needed was a simple apology. You're not making the right decisions or acting normal. So what's it going be Are you not going to let me come to the place that you said I could always come? Is that what you're saying You're treating me like shit, stop asking you questions or treating you bad What the actual fuck Like Dom is like what the actual fuck This is your last chance to let me come and eat, or you can put all my stuff in a bin and I'll come get it right now. I would answer it right now She starts a video chat that goes unansswered, She calls again and again and again and again and again, and then she DMs st. You just fucked up Another video chat goes unanswered. You have three seconds to answer or I'm coming. Of course you would rather me starve He keeps telling her she's being toxic, but she keeps calling, typing, I would answer right now Dom seemingly begs her, quote, stop Dead ass have twenty seconds This is why I'm not letting you come. You're threatening and shit. An video chat, then another, then another. she calls eight times back to back to back to back. He does not respond and then she tells him, Okaykay, I'm gonna come. She doesn't respond to more video chats. She says, I would answer right now. likeike I really don't want to end this relationship, but you are not a good person. You treat me like fucking shit. I need water and food and you're not letting me eat. you are starving me You would rather me starve. I'm so serious when I say answer Kenzie, stop, please, I'll bring you food and water So she's at her parents' house. Now Mcenzie has somehow made this about starving.ike you're at home. fucking food and water. What are you saying? Exactly. So he's like, I don't want to be around you because we're gonna get into a fight. But I will bring you food and water because you're accusing me of starving you. Like I will drive to your house Even though you don't deserve it and you haven't even apologized, I'll bring you food and water And then I just need some alone time because this situation's only gonna to escalate. So he's like willing to do all of this and still de escalate. I mean, again, if the roles were reversed, this is like frankly, a terrifying relationship dynamic that is just abusive Dom offers to bring food, water. Kenzie just gets racist instead. She writes to him, You need to answer right now, Edward. I do not want to be here. So she's talking about she doesn't want to be home at her parents. What are you not getting? You know that. Which side note, a lot of people have interpreted that perhaps there was some sort of abuse going on in McKenzie's house. I really going through the whole FOIA file, there's no way to definitively say that that's not what's happening, but I don't think so She genuinely hates her parents for zero reasons. Like sometimes it'll be My dad woke me up because he was playing the TV so loud. Is he fucking R worded? Like she'll literally be texting him on that So where is the parents? How did she become this way? This is crazy. Yeah. And again, like when she is saying in Cs, I don't wantna be here. I know that a lot of us maybe from a point of empathy or trying to give people benefit of the doubt, or trying to protect people who are seventeen, it's like, oh, maybe something's going on in the house and she's expressing herself in this really aggressive manner because she just frantically needs to leave. That does not appear to be the case. Like she genuinely hates her parents because they atat McDonald's She thinks they're slobs. She doesn't like the fact that her dad plays the TV too loud. He's so dense. Is he slow? Like she's just Yeah There's a whole birthday debacle we're gonna go into later. She is like so adamant that she wants to go to Florida for her birthday. I'm gonna to give you a recap because it's so crazy She's adamant that she's going to go to Florida for her birthday, but there's a hurrice com to Florida because it's Florida And she's like, yeah, I don't care. I'm just pissed off. She has her entire family and Dom scrambling to figure out where to go next to make MackKenzie happy and she's like You guys are gonna fucking fix this V K And she's like She's going off on them and she's like, Dom, you're gonna to book me a ticket to Cali right now and fix my birthday V K And they're all just like trying to make her happy Parents are too? Yeah. Wh beats me. I mean, they're just straight enablers. They're so incompetent as parents I was the president if I ran this world I feel like they could even be criminally liable in my fake universe because like how do you raise someone like this It should be a crime to be this bat of a parent I think it's like worse, it's like similar to neglect. Like you were neglecting their capabilities of growing up to be a good contributing member of society. It's just so messed up So then she's just responding like, what are you not getting? You know that He responds then stopping toxic. She does not think that these two things are connected. She writes in all caps, I do not want to be here, so you're going to starve me, is that what you're saying? Stop being toxic and I'll let you come He finally tells her, I'm done So she goes up. Then please just break up with me then. If you're gonna sit here and let me beg you for food and water, then break up with me because any good man would never do this to his girlfriend. I would answer right now, you're making this so bad for yourself Kenzie, now you're being toxic. I said I'd bring you food and water, but instead you're trying to make it about bringing all your other stuff. I do not want to be here. Why are you not getting that? You didn't let me apologize on the phone and you didn't apologize sincerely to me I was like, I just need twenty minutes Just give me twenty minutes and stop being toxic and we can talk again on the phone if you apologize and I can let you come over. But instead you just spam me for the last twenty minutes being toxic as fuck She says, if you're not going to let me come over here then I'm going to bring all the stuff that I brought home. It's our house. you always say that. I'm not letting you hold it over my head when I put in the work to the house too. I'm allowed to go over there and eat when all the food that I like is over there. You're holding this over my head You're still being toxic. I would literally let you come over right now if you would just stop saying all this toxic shit and just leave it alone for a second and let me brush my teeth and then just call you back and apologize. It's all you had to do You still have to apologize also. I'm not being toxic. I'm telling you what you're doing. Why would I keep bringing pots and pans and stuff for your house over if you're gonna to hold it over my head and not let me there Stop It just doesn't make sense you expect all this good when you treat me like shit You're still doing it. You won't stop like, what the fuck? And you're still not apologizing Dom seems frustrated. He just tells her, let me just bring you food I do not want to be here, canan you not read And if you still want me to bring other shit, I'll bring it later. She responds, Why are you not understanding that I do not want to be here then stop being toxic and arguing with me I'm going to come over or this relationship is going to be over. I'm not letting you do this to me Just let me cool down. just let it cool down for ten minutes and then apologize. You're not gonna hold over a house that we built together over my head Y, she's acting like she's fucking Martha stewarding this house. Like she's done nothing. She also like she never cleans. She lives like a slob. Everyone hasest not testified, but they have spoken up about how she's a slob. Dom tells her like I'm asking for the bare minimum. MackKenzie responds, And I'm asking for literally one peach and water, but you can't even let me come eat Dom responds and all caps a stop Why is this making you so mad? I can't ask for food now So now she's acting like he's like this gu ' threatening abusive person who's like controlling what she eats. I'm about to be done texting you. I told you so many times, I willll bring you a peach and water And if you really want, I can bring the rest of the stuff later. but instead, you're trying to say I'm holding my house and food over your head, when I'm really not. You just can't respect me and can't stop arguing and being toxic That's why I'm not letting you over This is when she finally apologizes a little bit. Not really She says, Obviously, I'm sorry for calling you names. My life was literally going a shit and so many things were happening, which obviously you don't care about. I didn't mean anything that I called you because you didn't mean what you said. I'm not being toxic and I'm respecting you. I've done nothing disrespectful except ask you for food. You're still not understanding that I do not want to be here and you're still offering to bring me food somewhere where I don't want it when I could literally come there and eat. Why are you doing this? You are treating me like fucking shit right now. If this old pattern is going to keep happening, then I don't know if I can do this anymore Dom tries to set boundaries, which like that was not even an apology, by the way. Okay, Dom tries to set boundaries for the triilieth time. You were being toxic by forcing me to do things. I wasn't forcing you to do anything. You could have just let me come over and all of this would have been chilled. L I need food and water so bad you don't even care Dom responds with what Mcenzie was forcing him to do. He says, You're not letting me get off the phone, not apologizing when I said that all you had to do to come over was just apologize or leave me alone for a little bit to cool down. But instead, you said, you can't apologize and then you said that I have to bring you all your things when I said that I could bring you a peach and water. but I was only saying that because you were going to apologize. See, you're making it a loop because every single time I was telling you to apologize, you were saying no. and then I was saying, Well, let me bring you food and water and a peach and And then you were saying, oh, I'm holding the house over your head. I'm holding food over your head, with all I wanted was an apology so that, you know, for you to just come from you to keep saying, but then you keep saying, I don't care that you just need food and water, but I've been trying to bring it to you this whole time and you just keep arguing with me. See how you're still being toxic So he's like finally like letting it out. okay? He's like, we're just going in a loop. And I think that's why the message is so confusing because he's like, I'm living in a loop. I don't know what's going on. Like this is what you're forcing me to do And after all of that, because he's like, all I wanted was an apology. Like that's the crux of his feeling. He's like, I just want you to apologize for being toxic completely reasonable Mcenzie responds Did you not read my apology ike with the fuck Like why are you acting like I didn't apologize when I literally just said? She sends a screenshot of her half asked apology just two seconds ago and then sends it to him You could have just read that and understood, but I guess not Dom is so confused, he says, You didn't read anything I said, You apologize for calling me names and then continue to be toxic So you're not gonna let me come over now when I literally apologized Dom clearly doesn't feel heard and his boundaries are still being crossed. He writes, quote, you apologize and are still toxic She flips out. likeike what is going on? Why aren't you letting me come and eat? She keeps doing this until finally he texts her, Fine comeit. Are you sure Yeah, just don't be toxic. I was never holding anything over your head. I said I'd bring you food and water. 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Ballot through six hundred and fifteen while supplies last. Selection varies by location. Since Daveon is no longer eighteen years old, his parents felt that he was ready to be taken off their life three hundred sixty app which is the app like your parents can track the kids' locations, whether or not they're speeding or they're driving or if they're in the car right now or if they're walking. But instead of just getting rid of the app altogether, Davon instead connects it to his friend group She has a tight close knit group of friends and they all share each other's life three hundred sixty. I guess it's like you know, find my friends, you just want to make sure everybody's safe. You want to track everybody's locations, makeake sure that everybody is It's I think the idea is very responsible Now, july thirty first, twenty twenty two. at nine forty three AM Dav Vonne's friends are on the L three hundred sixty app and they're confused becausecause they see Dave Yon's location is heading towards the Strongsville Police station Maybe he's just heading in that general direction. It doesn't necessarily mean he's going to the police station, right? Within a few minutes, Davon's location shows that he is inside the Strongsville pololice station, or at least his phone is. And they're like, this is really odd. Like why would Davon be at the police station at ten in the morning? Like this is so weird. They check his life three hundred sixty history and they notice there' this weird incident that happened at five thirty AM At five thirty AM they get an alert and it shows Davon's phone location heading down Progress Drive. Progress Drive is technically officially called Progress Drive Bus Park because it's basically a commercial road I don't even know if commercial is the right word, it's more so industrial. So you drive down progress, and it's just a ton of these light industrial warehouses I feel like you've all seen those like business parks where you've got the flex office spaces and then you've got the warehouses, you see lots of big trucks driving through that road. It's not massive Amazon level warehouses, but it's also not corporate in the sense of like, oh, this is our corporate location where we invite clients over. Like you're going to see a lot of manufacturing companies, pipeline businesses, plumbing businesses have locations down here of like ICI Mals, Rfter, equipment cororporation, pipeline development company, like they all have buildings along Progress Drive. It's just warehouses and their're parking lots. There's no residential homes, no shops that you can stop in and grab a coffee, no pedestrians. It's just an industrial road Why would Daveavon be there at five thirty five in the morning? with an alert on Live three hundred and sixty showing high speed alerts with the top speed at ninety miles per hour And the Life B sixty app shows that Davon's location is stopped for a point in time at one of the warehouse buildings, specifically the pipeline development company. It almost looks like he's into the building with his phone. Why would Daveon be in this random warehouse building at five thirty five AM And now a few hours later, he's just heading to the Strongsville Police Station Davonne's friends are really confused They're trying to like, in real time piece together what's going on because they're like, what's happening? six fifteen AM, a nine hundred eleven call is made There's a car that's smashed up against the building I didn't go up to it because I was on my motorcycle. I don't know if I get stuck, but they ran the curb. I can see they smashed the sign and hit the building. The car is trashed. That's the direct nine hundred eleven call. when the first responding officer arrives at the end of Progress dririve. So this is kind of a dead end zone Progress drive, you make a right turn from the main road of Pearl and you make a right turn on to progress or at least that's what Mackenzie did. And it's like this half mile drive. it's Some people call it like a straight shop, but it's not really. There are gentle curves along this road and the road is pretty fucked up I mean, it's an industrial road. First of all, it's actually one of the older roads in the city, but it's an industrial road. so you have lots of heavy trucks and machinery driving past it. So the concrete on the pavement is not very level. And I guess the city is thinking, well, we don't really have a lot of people driving through this. This is like an industrial area and it's probably gonna to get messed up anyay so they haven't really fixed it. So it's kind of a bumpy drive. It's not a drive where you can just kind of wing it. It's like you'd want to have good control over your car Now at the very end of progress drive, there is like a dead end. So you keep driving down progress and then you're going to see grass a sign for the pipeline company and then the red brick building Yeah When you get there on the road, you can make a right or a left. So it's a T intersection I see. But you cannot keep going straight because that's where the red brick building is But that is what McKenzie's Black Toyota has done. It has gone straight, essentially flying through the building sign, through the grass and jamming the car straight into the corner of this warehouse building. The car looks obliterated. You can hear the officer, the first responding officer through the bodycam, starting to freak out and he's going straight into work booking it to the car as quickly as he can. he's panting. and as he's running through the grass, you see that there's just massive chunks of this car and debris scattered all around. The car accident looks Not accident. the car crash looks less like a car crash I say accident because he doesn't know what's going on. So to him, like he's responding to a car accident. It looks like a bomb went off The car looks like it exploded. The only way to convey the extent of the car's state through words is it looks like the front passenger side of the car had been run through a hydraulic press It's just like smash, disintegrated. The officer radios in for backup, radio, there's a car split into, radio, there's an occupant inside. So he notices the driver first because naturally that's the first place you look for an occupant. Send us some squad now. we gott to bust the window out, send us some more units This is not a fresh accident either. She's been here for a while He sees initially just one person in the car Then he radios again. We got at least two occupants in here, no one's moving Oh my Godd, oh my Godd, tim's three Radio three occupants, No one's conscious, no one's breathing And they start freaking out. They're like trying to bust the window He banging, he's banging. He's like screaming, who can hear my voice? radio, we're going to need full extraction all three And he's saying like, holy shit, this is bad guys. They're all pretty young Upon first glance, the front passenger side where Dom was sitting has a lot of the impact. There's a video of the car and this is the video is taken after the car is taken to a separate lot In the front of the car, I was almost confused, like am I being shown the wrong car? Like Are they going to move to show me the black Toyota? Because the front of the car looks white Because it's not like it's a half paint job. It's the front of the car had been disintegrated where all you can see is metal That's it The officer doesn't have anything hard to smash open the windows. like Multiple units arrive and they're just like trying, they're even thinking like, do we use our gun? Like we need to get in here They can't get the wind open. eventually they jam it open. and once they get into the car, they can quickly tell that two of them are not going to make it I know that there is speculations, theories online that Davon was alive at the time of the unit's arrival. It seems like that is not accurate by accounts Dom and Daveon were confirmed DOA added up on arrival by the officers The first responding officer later says in a less panicked and more somber tone like two that are gone. Jesus Christ, like this is probably the worst I've ever seen He's trying to explain to the new officers that are showing up, like it's like a nightmare. I ran up. I go, this is bad. I ran up, I saw one. I called her in. I looked in the back. there's two, I called it in. and then You see three and you're like, Jesus in. No one's fucking movving At some point, the officers find an ID and realize that the individual in the backseat is Davion. and I don't know how this officer knows. Maybe he has a kid the same age or maybe he's just very involved in high school sports, but He says he's a fucking Strongsville football player And so they mentioned that he's running back and the officer walks to the backseat of the car and taps on the metal. says rest in peace, buddy The first responders, they arrive and they inform the other officers at the scene, contact the coroner, they're on their way out. And just to add to the chaos, you know there's wind and debris being thrown about because a life flight has landed to take the only person that has a pulse into this flying ER to the hospital Now the day after the crash, police are knocking on the door to the hospital room with the only survivor And that is Mackenzie Shherilla. She has three broken ribs, a lacerated liver, kidney, damaged arteries, a broken femur above the knee. Her legs and arms are in cast. She has neck brace on. She does objectively look messed up, but she's alive. She's the only one from the car that is alive. And by this point, her parents have told her They say that they told her that her boyfriend Domond Davon had been killed. McKenzie's parents say that after getting out of surgery in the middle of the night Mackenzie asked, Where's Dom they didn't really think that there was a way to calm her down so they tell her And she's just screaming, it's not him, it's not him Then she asks about Davian and they say that she learns that he didn't make it and she was just sobbing, oh God, o God But the officers aren't really interested in any of that They want to know what the hell happened in that car because it doesn't make any sense. They were able to pull CCTV camera footage from a nearby warehouse that shows the black Toyota that Mackenzie is driving There's sound to this CCTV. And it sounds like a missile and you hear the crash. I will say that there are TikToks going around that they enhance the audio and you can hear one of the boys screaming, Mackenzie, No. That does not appear to be true at all. It would have been in the police reports. It would have been talked about during the trial You can hear the car and it's going fast and you hear it crash It sounds it sounds bad There is no feasible reason that the officers can think of of what would cause MackKenzie to drive in this manner. Like this is not a road that is easy to speed on. It's an industrial road with a speed limit of thirty five miles per hour. notot saying that you can't speed over the speed limit, but it's like a pretty bumpy road. So one of the officers actually got into his cruiser and he went around fifty five in his cruiser And he said like the wheel was shaking because like I said, the road, the concrete is kind of messed up. It's an industrial road. So he's like to be able to maneuver because it's not like they were going all over the place. It's like a straight shot missile. It's not like she's, you, driving and swerving and hitting things and hitting the curb and then slamming into the building. It's like It almost looks like you'd have to be pretty in control of the vehicle, whichich also they think, that means if someone blacked out or passed out or were so drunk, this is not a road that you can maneuver before straight shoting it into the building They're like, if she was drunk on progress, she would have hit something else first. 'use it's like there's like this gentle driving. Y is what they're saying. They like and and they pull another version of CCTV camera. So remember, Pearl is the main road of Strongsville. Progress, you turn right. So you're on Purl, then you make a right onto progress. They pull CCTV camera from that road And Mackenzie, when she does that right turn Her blinkers on, she slows down and she has a controlled right turn And then within the span of like half a mile, suddenly she loses control, loses control of the car. and then spepeed shots it almost a hundred miles per hour straight into the building So like nothing makes sense. I think initially when the police got there, they're thinking, okay, young kids, we found shrooms on MackKenzie. They found a quartz Ziploc bag of shrooms on Mackenzie's person along with a digital scale So they're thinking, maybe this is impaired driving But when they get all the CCTV camera, they're like, that doesn't make sense How are you driving completely normally and completely safe All of a sudden, you cannot drive. The argument essentially being, okay, so if Mackenzie is impaired. She's somehow managing to drive with the skill of like an F one driver straight into a building So the police believe that rules out the fact that she could be impaired. Though they do do a toxicology report or test just to make sure. and more on that in a second. but Later, Mackenzie and her parents, as well as her defense attorney, will argue that McKenzie was impaired just not bu by drugs Not by anything that's going to show up in the toxicology. They argue that MackKenzie was diagnosed with pOots which can cause someone to faint I will note that not everyone diagnosed with POTS faints It's actually like this is a very misrepresented diagnosis. In fact, that's a point of frustration with a lot of people who are diagnosed with POTS is that everyone assumes that they pass out when it's not even part of the diagnostic criteria Diagnostic criteria typically rest entirely on heart rate response, not fainting. Fainting, however, is a possible symptom But not everyone with Pots faints, In fact, it's considered kind of like a rare event It's been described as a disorder where it just feels like you're going to faint. And you might faint, it is, you know, life altering, but it's not like, oh, everyone with POT is fainting all the time. and like they shouldn't behind the wheel. Like it's not this like, o my gosh, so scary, you're gonna die. and like everyone you can't be behind a car. The hallmark for POT is more so a heart rate increase of at least thirty beats per minute in adults within the first ten minutes of standing up or a head up tilt. It's very much based on standing up That's like a huge thing with pots. It's okay. So a lot of it is centered around when someone without POT, I guess like if you and I were not diagnosed with POT, we stand up Gravity pulls ten percent to fifteen percent of blood into the stomach and the legs. The body will compensate by tightening the blood vessels and modestly adjusting the heart rate For people with pOT, the blood vessels will not tighten So blood you know pools below the heart and in an attempt to over correct because the body doesn't really like they're like, whoa, what's going on? thenen the body will flood their system with norepinephrine and epinephrine. So the heart is just getting epinephrine and norepinephrine and doesn't really know why. So naturally it causes the heart rate to shoot up abnormally So you know, that's like they might get lightheaded dizziness, more so than just like, oh, I'm a little dizzy, right? POT is a life altering diagnosis, and I'm not trying to say like, oh, this is not serious, but it's not considered life threatening. There are no deaths attributed directly to POT. I think that's a huge thing that people in the POTS community feel like the stigma is a lot Eespecially with driving. and I was actually on the pod subreddit and they really hate, really hate Mackenzie, it seems because a lot of them Most of them have been diagnosed with pOT for decades. A lot of them say they've never fainted And they actually, it was like It's very annoying because when people find out they have pots, it's always like How can you dare drive? Like there's so many misconceptions about pots. And it's just not they feel it is not true So that's not to say that people with pOotTs don't faint. they absolutely can and do. and it can be life altering when they faint because typically the biggest practical danger of pOTs is injury from fainting. So like you faint, you fall and you hit your head Now, it does appear that the general public does just think it's a fainting disease, which doesn't seem to be the case at all. but it's also a condition where you could have been diagnosed, gone years without fainting, and then you suddenly faint. It is entirely possible Does that mean that that's what happened in this case? Most people don't think so. for a lot of reasons that we're going to dive deeper in a separate episode, but I'm just gonna to give you a little bit right now. So interestingly enough, a lot of people with POotTts thinks that this whole thing is ridiculous. okay? evenven the way that Mcenzie's mom talks about POotTts in court later during McKenzie's trial, she calls POTts a blood pressure condition. which inherently is not true. So When your blood pressure drops, that's when people faint. Fainting can be a symptom for some people with pots But the condition itself is not a blood pressure condition. It's like more a heart rate condition. So it's just like people are like How can you say that your daughter is diagnosed with POTs and that's what caused this fatal crash? But you sound so uneducated about POTs. Like if this was truly a condition that was life altering enough for MackKenzie to get diagnosed with it, and then later, according to them, get into a fatal car accident killing two people in the car because of POT, you would think her mother would know a bit about POT. But she calls it a blood pressure condition in court, which is inherently not true Blood pressure again plays a role, but it's not a blood pressure condition. If you go on the POTS subreddit, you'll actually see a lot of people who argue that had this been a POTS related episode, it's more likely that her body would go limp rather than floor the pedal all the way straight into the wall. So they're saying like, when you fain, it's more likely with pots that your body goes lip. One person literally comments, She's so fucking stupid. If this were a pOs episode, the exact opposite would happen There are also speculations that her diagnosis could have come from the fact that she was engaged in super heavy drug use and she does appear to be low on the BMI scale So feeling lightheaded upon standing is not always pots. It could be because you're malnourished or your BMI is too low It could be heavy drug usage, it could be like low iron. it could be lots of things But again, like with POTs diagnosis, that's why a lot of people again, are in the community upset. There's a lot of specific criteria. Usually the gold standard is a tilt test They like strap you to this board and they put you in a direction which would simulate standing up. And they keep you there for like ten minutes while they're watching your heart rate and all of these things. But she gets diagnosed in twenty seventeen because she apparently like fainted in the kitchen Her mom takes her to the Cleveland clinic And she's prescribed salt tabs and is diagnosed with pOTs. And then it just seems like nothing ever happens Like they don't get follow ups, they don't do further diagnostic testing, at least that it's not revealed in court. I don't have our medical records, but I would assume that the defense would have used it. In fact, I also think it's weird that the defense, if they really were trying to argue this whole pots thing, why don't you just strap her up to the tilt test board? Why don't you like definitively prove? Because Natalie Shrilla didn't even know The diagnosing physician, she's like, I don't even know what doctor it was. Like there was no upkeep in this pOopPS diagnosis. There was nothing But also it's the fact that people are saying, okay, so she fainted once in the kitchen and this is not to comment on people's weights, but she does seem probably very low on the BMI scale to the point where some doctors may be alarmed cause lightheadedness, that could cause fainting. She is engaging in heavy drug use. It could be a wide variety of reasons. And her mom gets her diagnosed with pOT, right? So it's just like And if that were all true, if this is the case, McKenzie faints in the kitchen, her mom gets her diagnosed with pOT, and her mom still let her have a car while smoking weed PTs is, I mean, that would be a huge problem. because not because people with POTs cannot drive, because they absolutely can And just as safely as any other law abiding citizen without pots, but Mcenzie is seventeen Her mom says she's fainting in the kitchen. Her parents know she partakes in an ungodly amount of smoking weed. and She's trying to like make the plant go extinct. Like that's how much she's trying to smoke weed. And she likes to drive while high on weed. I would imagine like that's a huge problem if you're letting your daughter do that And another thing is if the Jibberish speak, the Carney speak in the hospital room is to be believed, the fact that she was speaking in what her dad you know, describes to be Carney, allegedly saying, can we just tell them that I had a seizure Sizures and pots are not even the same thing Like these are entirely different things. Sizures and fainting due to pots are not the same. We can't just fucking make pasta and see what sticks to the wall A lot of comments on the pO subredreddit are along the lines of like, genuinely made me so mad. I feel like her claims are just adding to the misconceptions about pOs How in the world would a POTS episode make it push harder on the gas? Sit absolutely bullshit, and I'm glad she's in jail Another one reads, Amazing how fainting and losing consciousness can perfectly keep the car steered and accelerated for sure Another says, my jaw hit the floor when she said it was a medical event due to pOT. Only people with POT would know that's not how it works People have also noted that during the trial, during high stress situations with likely dehydration and other things playing into the mix, she never asked for a break because she felt like she was fainting, which is Reasonable and expected for someone with potTs So because like your heart rate goes up when you're stressed and high cortisol and you know, she's sitting in the courtroom on trial. She's probably not drinking a ton of water, dehydration, and she never asks like the judge for a moment because she's and lightheaded. You know, there's lots of moments where she's standing sitting, Judge walks in, she stands, like there's not. Suddenly nothing matters. You only had pots in that like two minutes in the car They also argue that medical records after she's lifeifelighted don't match someone with POT, that after being pulled out of that car with all the other factors, her blood pressure was qualitatively described as elevated when she's pulled from the crash. Now I will say They are pulled from the crashway later from the actual accident, but some people have argued like pots would cause if you fainted, it would be low blood pressure, not high blood pressure, but she had elevated blood pressure. She also had a normal heart rate and ECG showing normal electrical heart function, which probably wouldn't happen They think in a parts episode within like even an hour. Pot's episode all of that physical trauma and then your heart rate is normal. Like they just don't think that makes sense. And also when they extract her from the car, it's like a posterior condition. so she's being moved So that would mean if she does have pots, her heart rate should go up because she's going from sitting to probably at least some form of like her, she's moving Now it's interesting to note that her defense did not bring an expert to testify about Mackenzie's pots and how she could have fainted while operating the vehicle. Some people believe it was a genuine accident and people who believe it was not have mixed reasonings as to why the defense did not bring in an expert during the trial. We're going to get into it in a second. I feel like I'm getting ahead of myself, but we're going to cover it thoroughly later The first theory that police had was that MackKenzie was high and impaired while driving But it just doesn't make sense with all the CCTV footage they're getting. Very early on, Mackenzie's mom is saying things like, oh, she has pots, she has pOots, like in the hospital. So she's like, oh, maybe it was the pOTs, right And the police are like, well