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A little bit of a little bit of marathon. I don't normally play games that early But I was like Why not Yeah. G the early start to the day, you know Sure, sure, sure, sure I u Can't relate Yeah I'm sure a lot of people can Again, I love looking at my trophies through the lens of when they're earned by hour. Yeah. and if like it's like all eleven PM to like four or five AM and then it just falls off and it barely played during the day I have a hard time playing games during daytime hours Unless I'm really into it Re really enjoy what I mean? Also not awake during daytime hours very much. so That's another thing that I have going against me. It's good to see you as always, what's your shirt? I can'tite make it out Is was thecest? It ye it's the Ocest shirt. the black eyed piece. Black eyes the black eyede shirt. Yeah. gotota.'s all the safe. Yeah, nothing special Just I got to get new clothes. The thing I'm really hyper aware of like my wardrobe because We record so often, right? And so I'm just like, oh, this is a repeat. or like I've worn this exact outfit before. and I'm like, I don't know if I care that much, but I do like there's like a little bit. where I'm like I' getting too easy to draw, you know? Right, right, right. Yeah, I always marvel about how many clothes I have, which is a lot and how few of them I wear I just wear the same shirts over and over again, whatever. I don't know I don't really give a shit to be honest with you It was nice when the show wasn't on video many years ago We' have worry about that Yeah, now now we do Well calling, you wouldn't worry about it. I remember a Cin and Greg live where you literally rolled out of bed wearing the exact same clothes the day you did before. Yeah and then hopped on the show. A Fman E executive of. good to see you How are you today my friend Good. Since Duke is not publishing until Sunday, Last night and this morning, I'm just like Care free. so I played some bond This morning like Chris, some rare Morning gaming Yeah and felt pretty good. been kind of weirdly sleepy the last two days, which is concerning after having kind of a big bug bite over the weekend. be You know, the cocktail of Lyme's disease and a newborn baby sounds great. N you won't be able to eat meat anymore I've been seeing that Well, I don't know what's going on with that Yeah, apparently, some people they like got limes cny, red meat Yeah it's like poison I read me Today and yesterday. So you already ate red meat today Yeahb a leftover taco bl. Oh, okay. cool. that was for lunch freedom seem fine. I might feel over during the show. We'll see. Well, we'll find out. Soon enough Beef for lunch. loveo that Yeah, just a little rice. the pretty hardyeve. Good good,ge.. good. goodood to see you. We're here. It's a big week. It's a big show. I mean, we haven't recorded yet. We also as of the time we're recording, this don't even have all the information yet. So we're recording this on Thursday, where we usually do I think the show will be published Friday night Probably something like that I'm wondering what we do. Maybe we do publish the SarOS interview at Friday at noon with a note that says like this this will tide you over until and then on Saturday, we publish his usual sacred symbol plus.aybe that's what we ther otherwise people are going gonna be theyre going to start crying and they're going to be upset You' be like, where's the show and what' this and what's that I'm like, I don't know I don't know what to then Duke's going to be late You know, my response to that is calling to these not you but to these people. It's the it's the Patrick meme where he's fat and he's covered with chocolate and he's like, you stole my food. Right All we do is give. ' callon. H always there's How many hours per week of podcasts? And then we wait a little bit so it's the best possible podcast in the current climate of this week No crying Yeah, Well, no crying. It's not going to matter right. Don't you dare cry Don't shut it's here for us We'll find you where you are. Don't worry. I'll find you. I'll never leave you alone. All right. well, it's good to be here with you guys, goodood to see you, good to be here with all of you out there as well It's sacred symbols of PlayStation podcast And what a PlayStation podcast it'll be today since we have a state of play to discuss plus probably a summer game fest thing. It's supposed to be two hours long I was saying that we should at least watch it and then we just publish if we feel like there's nothing there. but there's going to be something there That's going to be notable, I think. We'll have all that inserted here as well at some point But welcome. We go live each and every week. 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It's Sarrow's weekend So an interview, about thirty five minute interview with Gregory Louudden and Michael Hieri over at House mark that's already in the can. interestnteresting interview and then Yesterday, you Dustin me and Ben, Smith sat down to record the Sarow S spliler cast interview discussion, which is about ninety minutes long u really more about the mechanics of the game and like what we thought about playing the game since none us really understood what was going on in the game So please look forward to that And Kramer at the factory says, Hey Colen, what happened to the Sarr spil cast? I was looking forward to that Can we at least hear your final thoughts on the game on this week' show? Thanks and keep up the amazing work. No, we'll leave it to that almost have the platinum. I have all the hardest trophies now, I just need to sit down for probably another hour or so And I'll probably do it tonight So patience We'll have that. And then we got to start cranking these things out Uh Pragmata's got to be done soon. Double of seven' got to be done soon and so on and so forth. I still want to get Chris your bungy idea about kind of saying goodby to Destiny or what You know, whatever peer Yeah, that's that's because that update's not even for another week. So we've got time Okay, good. for that to be timely And then sacred streaming goes each Monday, although we're streaming a bunch this week because of all the showcases. But we're typically live Mondays at one. Except for this week I think we will not be live on Monday one. We might be messing around at some point It's not going be real stream And what I mean by messing around is I have to figure out how to do this myself. because Dustin's quitting And he has to uh he has to go now. so Please look forward to that. but you can find our state of play stream, both pre like the guesses and the stream itself on our VOD on YouTube We will do the summer Games Fest as well, and we will do Xbox showcase on Sunday as well since Xbox is unronically PaySation's bigest third party plisher Other games we've messing around with on their Pragmada Marathon play chess I'll probably get back that I've been playing a lot of chess And finally, merch at lastastmedia d. store if you want merch. Go check it out T shirts, sweatshirts, stickers. and so on and so forth. 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Clearly, our values were too far apart naturally I blameed sacred symbol The timing was almost poetic Last Friday, while packing my belongings, moving out what was once our shared home, a fresh episode appeared to my feed like a care package from the gods. There I was carefully wrapping dishes, questioning my life choices and occasionally wiping away a tear only to immediately burst out laughing at Colllin's thoughts on the new protagonist of Drag Quest twelve suffering a form of fetal alcohol syndrome. It was exactly the distraction I needed. In all seriousness, the show provided a surprising amount of comfort during a difficult week. And if there's a silver lining, It said I discovered this relationship was dead on arrival before marriage and children entered the equation Otherwise, I may have been forced to follow Randy's example and abandon my family responsibilities in pursuit of moreal laststandand So thank you, sacred symbol You may have claimed another relationship for your ever growing tally, but at least you helped me carry the boxes. Maybe I'll give that chicken a call if you're done with it now. Dustin He's saying that our use of the word retard caused his girlfriend to flee Am I understanding this? He said while there were many contributing factors. Yeah, right. Okaykay. was that Yes, Is your girlfriend a retard? Your ex girlfriend aybe that's why she didn't like it Yeah. Yeah You don't want to be around someone that you need to feel like you got a tiptoe around. Right? You want to be ally your girlfriend. Yeah. Oh yeah, no. Yeah no. You can't do that. You can't do it It sucks like dude, if you have a friend who their girlfriend is someone you got to tip tip toe around, you know, and it's like It's not fun to hang around And especially I'm sure Jared knows liive with. So no that sucks. You don't want to be with some fucking braad like that Don't be broad snowies. I've told you that story right. I dated a girl back on Long Island in my twenties She's from Long Island. We lived in California, but her dad was they were like an Italian family and they were like ridiculously inappropriate and funny. and his And like, you know, dy would be like driving and like, some woman would be down was like, look at this fucking dope bad. And I I kept that term dopey broad in my Lexicon E since my that's amazing That's an amazing thing to say this lady, not literally charred can't do anymore anyway Um, Sounds sensitive Is it worth blowing up a relationship over that? She probably wasn't really into it to begin. I'm gonna be honest Maybe you weren't and you're going you're going be f Sounds like bigger than Chris is that they're gonna have to break a lease, perhaps. Oh yeah, I mean that's I don' know, that's fairly trivial. I've never broken a lease It's not really that crazy as far as I I've done it a couple times. Granted, I guess I'm to be fair, I am like in a forortunate position. then Yeah, we have to pay or whatever but it's just like it's That's fine Like the way that I feel about it is that like I'm U It's like whenever you rent a place, you know how like they Oh they'll charge you for damages if you move out or whatever. So you're incentivized to keep the place kind of you know, reasonably well to do. They're gonna to charge you anyway Like I have never like I did a whole bunch of work on the last on like one of the last apartments that I'd lived in where like I like repainted certain things. I like sand like there was, I think I had sound foam on the walls that like kind of like they had some residue that was stuck and I like acetoneed them off and like I sanded some stuff. Like I did a lot of shit and they charged meway So I was like, all right, fuck Yeah You know what I mean Everything and everything in my apartment is nailed into the fucking wall. Everything it because it's like, whatever. Yeah, I totally. You know, it reminds me of when I was in college when I was moving out of my freshman dorm I'm sure it's a common but I always remembered it' like someone taking toothpaste, like white toothpaste and just putting it in all the holes. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. That's a classic. That's a classic trick. But what I mean The point of that is to say that I kind of factor those extraneous costs into anything anyway. Like that's in the budget. Right, R Like to be charged erroneously for something for like, oh, we had to repaint seven hundred dollars you oe. And then they paint over like the bug on the wall, which I always love when you see shit like that like the they p especially over the bug. they paint over the black mold. that they refuse to fix. They u Dude, I I still that was wild seeing that shit Like we had we had a water damage. In one of our bathrooms, it was like really spready. It was like black all over the closet wall. and I was like that's cray And it happened immediately. It wasn't like festtering there or anything. But I was like, that's crazy Can you fix this? And they came in like, yeah, yeah. And they came in for like forty five minutes and then I came back and it was completely clean. I was like, what You replaced the wall in forty five minutes. There's like no shot There's no shot. I don't even know that much about this shit.ike I used to build like basements and shit like with my dad. so I know a little bit about baking shit. I don't need to know much to know that you didn't do anything here Like you definitely just painted over this wall I wonder if that like starves the oxygen of the from it or something, mayaybe that works. I don't know. Yeahah, okay. It just, but it just seems like The slum word shit I just don't really get, you know? like Some people say it's exacerbated by rent control, which it probably is, but it just seems like people a lot of people just don't give a shit. Like if I was renting out of a place, I would want people to feel like they were they were welcome and like they had a good spot. And I've had landlords like that too That like really cared Individual landlords who own like maybe a building or like another property are usually okay because they're like interpersonal and they understand. it's the issue is really the management companies. Right R. Like where it comes into like, oh, it's herearss like this This corporate landlord Like that shits Fucking terrible And I really don't, I don't get it. You know how you avoid rent control by the way? you let you actually like allow people to buy the fucking buildings and the units. Yeah, that's interesting. It's really annoying. They were saying that, I think in Mamani in New York City was looking into that. I don't think it's It's probably not legal, but it's a good. It's a nice idea. it's kind of forcing someone to sell. It's like what the Soviets did to to the landowners in like the nineteenenth, but like you can It is a nice idea to be like, look, if you lived somewhere for X amount of years, like twenty years. like some people have been in their apartments since the sixties and seventies. Yeah And they're dude, I knew someone in San Francisco that was in a rent controlled apartment since This was a long time ago, but he was, I think moved in the early nineties. He lived. For people that don't know Alamo Square. Do you guys know what that is in Sanrancisco? It's whereare, you know full house Oh the painted ladies It's like where that she don knowt where they're picking and shit like that, that's where that is. So it's like a square. And like there are apartments looking at it. and he lived in one of those apartments. And it was literally like five hundred doars I'm not even kidding, like five hundred and fifty dollars a month Yeah I was like, I was so jealous I was like, this is insane. Like how did you And I would never leave dude, I would I would if I had that apartment straight up I would still I would have live in this house and own it like I do now and I would still rent that apartment Just because just is like what six thousand dollars a year to live an aart in San Francco No, it's it's yeah, I don't know man. I think u Yeah, that'm Donny shhot is interesting. I don't know it's going go I think there's room though for over correction. You know what I mean? I think everything's gotten so comically bad that like I don'tind a little of over correction If this gets bad like sure, fix it. but like I mean, like there's Things have been crazy for far too long to not do some drastic shit, I think U Especially in the rent space Yeah. I don't reallyespecially in New York. It's fucking ridiculous. I don't have on my mom's side, on like the Italian side, my family owns a few buildings in Brooklyn and my sister lived in one of them And they were even dick headads to her. I'll always remember that Like They're like, this is like your whatever it was, like your great aunt or whatever. It's like have a little respect for my sister. Like they were fucking assholes and And I'm like, geez, can I imagine how these people are treating like regular tenants. No, for sure. Well, dude, you know what's the thing about it is like if I If I li if I owned this space First all, I would buy this barmment outright I love this I love this apartment that I have right now If I owed it outright, you know what I wouldn't be doing Painting over black mold, right? You know what I mean? Like I would care because it's mine and I have a vested interest. A lot of people don't have a vested interest. I've experienced that before. L I've rented apartments and I'm like, this means nothing to me. Right It's like're gonna fuck me over anyway. So why do I give a fuck It's the meme of people pouring grease down the Exactly the side of if you own a house or not is as if you pour grease stuff. Yeah. You wouldt do that shit if you owned it. right. And nobody can own anything, which is why everything sucks Yeah, you were It's a working theory. I don't know I've always been fascinated by apartments people own. My mom owned an apartment in Boston. Yeah And it's like, it's weird, like you 'cause I'm always like, but like It's an obscure thing, but there's like a building somewhere in Florida. Do you remember the building that collapsed Does that ring a belle you like a building up in California or Florida just collapsse out of nowhere? It's like people own those. You know, um I always wish or the building in San Francisco that's leaning I think we've talked about that in the past. It's like I forgetot how it's calledike, it's like totally leaning and it's all fucked up and people own those And I'm like, how does this work? Um I think my mom, like, when she owned her apartment, they had there was like a condo association or something. And so you had to pay like a rate Yeah that went into like the substance of the building, I guess. But it's just like there's so much trust. You have like forty different families all sharing this cohabitating in this thing that could that you all own Yeah, and you don't really know them and it's it's kind of weird. It freak me out a little bit. L my parents owned our Well before we moved into a house where they owned the condo that we lived in in in Yonkers And that was a pretty big building. It was like a six it was like six floors think they were like maybe like apartments per floor, I think, or something like that It newews a lot And they had like, I remember they would have like board meetings or something every every month or something I remember my mom was on like the board or something, but Yeah that kind of shit would consume me because I would just be curious about what everyone else is doing you know, like as far as not in their personal lives, but like are you is something leaking in your house and like going into the into like the subfloor? Are you Is that, you know, are the support beams okay? Is like, I don't know, it' just as opposed to living in like I'll never sell this house, I don't think that I live in now because it's so emotionally important to me There was like me rising from the ashes getting this house in my opion. like from my own perspective, I don't think anyone else would see it that way. Like feeling better, getting better covering for my time in California and in Los Angeles and all that kind of stuff. And so I'll always just hold it I think. But I've thought it in the future was like maybe I would rent it out at some point, you know I think I have this fantasy that I'll just not give it, but be like one of my nieces or nephews be like, you just live here Like I'm going to go, build another house, you live here, pay the property tax, keep it up. I'm going to own it I can't let it go. you know,'t I couldn't imagine letting anyone else li here you know, like permanently. Anyway The brainworm piloting the idiot shaped flesh mee. I like that name Rote in E and said, how do you do fellow kids Now that Papay has seen the light about maybe it's not always your fault if your PSN account gets hacked. Are we ready to revisit the notion that perhaps not every person that's had their controller get stick drififfed as a dishonest broker who is too hard on their controllers and that there might be a legitimate QC issue at Sony? I got a PSI pro recently, brand new from PlayStation direct and the controller that came with the console got brutal drift in the right stickess after less than a month. For reference, the only games I played with were Metal Gar Solid Delta and MousePI, neither particularly stick intensive games the controller to Sony for repair and in response, they ship me back a brand new controller. That's what they always do. think confonfirmed by the new serial number, Inidification has hit nearly every facet of our lives Is it a bridge too far to think it's hit Paytation's hardware components Thank you for your consideration. What I assume they do because one of my PS three broke back in the day and I sent it in for repair, they just sent me a new one And I thought it was because I worked at place or I worked a place I worked at IGN and they knew that, but I actually think that that's just what they do a lot And then what I think they do is they refurbish the shit you send back and they sell it. So And I think that's where the whole pipeline of refurbish shit on PaySation Direct comes from As far as the stick drift, give me time You know, let me marinate a little bit on all the events of the last few weeks. I have a lot to compine I almost feel like I need to write like a Like a memoir About it Um Do I think that the play I believe that there is an issue with everything for someone? We talked about it Dustsin with Sarow son On the Sours conversation with Ben famously about how return returnal itself broke his PS five back in the day. And it seems so unbelievable way way it was true And like The thing is I believed it because it was Ben And frankly, if nine out of ten people told me that I'll be like, I don't know if I believe you know So D go. You can rock your world right now. Please do it One of my brand new controllers is started to get sick drift My anniversary controller. It came with my PS five Pro anniversary edition Ieresting I noticed when I was playing Pragmata that the character would just ever like start walking a certain direction and it wouldn't do it on my other controller. I think that it's minimal right now because that game, I guess has zero dead zones. So it picks it up and other games don't. But it's the beginning First time it's happening to me on a Playsttation controller Interesting. Yeah, Ive've I've had a couple problems with my I think I've talked about this in the past. I have like six dual senses or something over time I've had problems with two of them in different ways, but it's because I I really believe and Mica always like, she just rolls her eyes. When it happens, I literally drop the controll around on the hardwood floor like every month Like, it'll be on like like the like the armor on my couch or whatever. And then I'll like get up and elbow it and you'll just hear like pop popop like and I'm like, fuck You know, like something probably got knocked loose. so it's hard for me to calibrate whether it's the controllers or it's me fucking dropping them over and over again. I will say that I noticed during Saros that my I guess it's the R no I'm sorry the L two trigger is started to become squeaky Like it sounds like a floor board in a haunted house. And's like a pressed again it's like, wa, wait, wit, wit. like a buuck I got a like WD forty eight or something. So but the stick so the stick drift is The thing that always really got me is not so much the stick drift, although I do believe that some people are causing their stick drift By the way, some people have caused their accounts to get boosted too, including me. I mean, I put my email address out there and details out got. So its like it's not quite that simple, right The one that always got me was the early dual Sock four stuff where the the the The sticks would unravel And I'm like, what are you doing? No, no, no, no, no So just give me time That's all I'm happening to happen to me with. What is that all about They I don't know They probably changed the formula of the rubber stick at some point. And so the early ones are bad But we had a bunch of I have a bunch of early ones. I had them I don't know. I'm just telling you it happen to me and I've seen it happen to many people. J justust because it doesn't happen to you does not mean it doesn't exist. Yeah, I know. All right Give me time. Like I said, give me time. That's all I need is time. I'll come around It's just I was watching u Lockmore to Edit, which is awesome What she said he was going to get us on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and he ended up coming, you know, even days later than that Actually, I think you said today tomorrow or Wednesday, which is Fucking awesome God bless him Um And u It's making fun of me a lot whichich is fine I don't care. I mean, I saw it. I proved it Um I'm like, to be fair, I've like some of those things I was saying in there, I was like, yeah, I believe some of the people. I still think that some people are How it's like going all the way back to podcast beyond whatever, it's like,h I got banned PS and it's like o, what you do? It's, Ind something inappropriate to someone or something like that. That's kind of what I was talking about I'm not saying like people deserve to get there ' stolen or taken away from them for no reason I just have been around the block enough to know that sometimes let's say Sometimes some people offff you skate And sureurely I don't think I' Be easy ymy. I've had a I've had a hard few weeks, tumultuous few weeks. I've aged you know, more than the three weeks would age me ool pool liner, new pool liner is supposed to be put in today But I don't think they've C buy it We'll an n sequorer Itook a drastic turn causeuse I was just thinking like, they were supposed to come and like, there's a bunch of Yeah, like they have to I don't know what these guys are doing I ha have my little camera up now and'm I like to spy on the people working on my yard Yeah Josh Harris wrote in said, Howdy Sacred trio duo, depending on how time falls with L little D and his little one in a literaler one. next week will be your episode, right? I keep referring to you guys as the podcast I listen to because I refuse to sound parocial to my wife Also you can do your own marketing As a result, I have a request Could one of you please say the phrase my friend, Josh Harris so that I am contractually obligated to refer to you by name when discussing your antics. Please and thank you, Have a great day. I will be enjoying this crisp bigle suede spring that we have been blessed with. What the fuck does that mean? The fuck is bigle suede I will get it. It is absolutely the big wor That is absolutely the first time I've ever heard that sound Sounds like something from the UK. It's a thing. Big ol Sede Spring throws fest, throws, fest What is this? Bagel suede. I I don't know what it is. I hate it. It'tound what it is just pork Poncho in disguise? Yeah. someome bullshit. fucking some European bullshit. Some beans on toast bullshit you got going on here I know you said beans, but I'd like to think it was bees on toast. Bees on That's fucking I mean, I watchen that video, you ever seen that video of the dude who's like, I'm like he's like trying to, it's like a like a'm mananly or whver. and he bites into a wasp nest. Yeah, Yeah, he like grabs it and squeezes it and then eats it, eats it. It's a fucking that's still the fact that's real because that's pre AIs's a real That's just a dedication to the craft that point. That is't a legend. I love that video. that guy is awesome because he's also going like dun dun D d or like like he's doing like some like musical accompaniment with it. He He rips it off the the thing and squeezes it to the fact that there's like waspa juice coming out of it Yeah, I can't remember what it. I just I just know the visual of it. I'm like that's fucking crazy, dude.s good shit. If that guy still alive, you know, God bless The W didn't expect that Becauseuse like the wasp the wasp, the wasp I feel like they must I always wonder this about the wasp They are very intimidating looking bulbous kind of back like the legs that hang, it's very fucked up looking. And I feel like they know Like like they know they scare others They probably get a lot of like room in the wild from other animals and they know it You know, So like a guy coming up like that just fucking with them and obliterating the entire nest like that and eating it He matched matched their energy. Rightactly. There's probably whered spread to the other wasp communities. Yeah like some wasp was out Foraging whatever he came back and was like, What the fuck? And y. That's wasp nine hundred and eleven. I think. Like they whisper, they still talk about it to this day. Right U They're the only animal the they're the only are insects animals they are, right? Like I mean Yeah, yeah, yeah. reasonable. I think you're either an animal, a plant or a fungus. I think that's like the only three options. Oh okay Yeah, like they're the only animal in the animal kingdom that has the energy of like, u of a guy coming up to you like R You know what I mean Like it's like a quick jolt. Yeah because they they like fly on top. Every once in a while, yellow jackets do this, especially that they'll just like land on you or like like, what are you gonna to do about it? Yeah it's like, I'm like, come on man, like leave me the fuck alone. Have you ever been stung by a wasp ever? Yeah, I have on se ocasions. It hurts like. It is bu it literallyit like I've look I've never been shot But I do genuinely feel like the immediate that one frame of registering that you've been sunk by a wasSp It probably doesn't feel too dissimilar. Yeah, I'm sure the aftermath of being shot is worse But in that split moment in time, I would imagine that there's not that much of a difference It is fucking painful. It is it it It hurts more and more Like in for a w I was a landscaper, as everyone knows. and so I've gotten stung on several occasions and I was mowing this like huge field on Long Island when I worked at a land trust and I'm like a zero turn mower and I must have mowed over a small was something. I got Like It was like on my like on I remember it was on the top of my head and like on my neck and shit like that and I was like fuck like I like couldn't I couldn't believe it. L how much it hurt. I was like, o my and it's so different than a beast sting whichich also hurts, but It's different. It hurts. It takes work It takes work to get stung by a bee though. You you kind of have to be have to fuck with them. You have to be looking for that because they I've had bees like just kind of Crawl on me They just fly away like they're really chill, like relative. They understand that it's suicidal for them, I think to attack, so they only do it's like existential D thisw video video would be unwinding a barb likeike unwinding itself from a dude's skin. No Beause it's just like ooh, I made a mistake. Interesting And I was like, that's I didn't realize that's That makes me uncomfortable because it makes me it puts me even more in a position. I'm already in a position where I feel kind of bad about you know, eating meat. Like I like it too much to stop, but I'm aware of like how we treat you know what I mean? Yeahive look likely. I don't know. And to see a be make a conscious decision like I relate to that. I relate to this be I can't be having that. Yeah, it's it's can't be having that. I think about that with animals all the time where I'm just like, I just I want I love meat and I think we should eat meat, and I think we have the factory farm in a way, but like you You don't have treat the animals like shit, I don' understand that. Like don't I just don't understand that. Yeah know, like I don't under It's like makeake it so the pig can't hey, make it so the pig can't turn around Maybe so can never see sunlight. It's like, o, okay, cool. It fuc. There's going to be a time, I think it may be like two hundred years from now, assuming we live that long. Uh, not individually, but like, you know, as a species where like people are going to look back at this point in time. It's like, you ate meat. And it's going to be like unthinkably like immoral. And they wouldn't necessarily be wronged Yeah, I mean that's what that's what bugs me about it. We Omnivores and carnivores eat other meat. They don't R. They don't. we are the only species that harvests it. and we've been doing it for long before there was farming and agriculture. We used to we used to run mammoths like mammoth hordardes off of cliffs Yeah Like we would literally chase them so that they had nowhere to go except for down and they would all die and then they would harvest all that food. So it's like, We figured shit out a long time ago and it's not natural It's natural for us to want to eat that stuff I think eventually they're already working on it, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but it's like just lab grown meat or something or whatever. I'm fine with that. Like if you can just like replicate beef and it's literallyir like indistinguishable from the real thing. It's like, all right, I guess, I mean, mayaybe just treat the The cow living a good life in a pasture and hanging out and then being killed at some point for its meat or milking it or whatever, I don't have any problem with that. You know, like Yeah, yeah. I really just think it's fucked up how they just They just treat them awful Dam An anyway, I was gonna have a burger after this. Yeah, exact. I had two burgers last night for dinner, so All right, Josh My friend, Josh Harris. I heard my friend Josh Harris is having an affair Blow up his whole spot. My friend Josh Harris. He works two jobs. He has two remote jobs and he's working at the same time. I hope no one No one from either of his jobs finds that out Let me interrupt your podcast to pitch you on another podcast. I'm Wuk, one of the hosts of abbove the Influence Show, The Eolution of the Notorious Under the Influence Show. And to put it simply, we are three guys at very different stages of life, navigating self improvement and sharing it with you in real time in ways that you can laugh at. 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In fact, there's so much like I created a separate document H for us to go through, which is rare because we usually work off of one Google doc. It's time to talk about the state of play. So here's how I did this How are we gonna do this This is going to be a little bit different than usual. I think What we're going to do is we're going to go through the state of play game by game We don't have to linger on every game if we don't want to And then we're going to go to the questions, comments, concerns, thoughts and ideas at the end of the show because all six of them are about the show differentere things that we can discuss about first party and Sony IP and female characters and commercial realities and overall thoughts, of course, chunky September looks for a lot of people and so on and forth. So that's what we'll do. then we'll get back into the news. att some point of the game of game Jeff Keeey, whatever the fuck it's called is going to get cutght in. Summer Game Fest And then we'll do the rest of the news, and I think we'll wra up with games for playing. So it'll be a little bit different. I think it makes the most sense All right, so let's go game by game. we start with Wolverine We've seen Extensive gameplay now confirmation of the release date. information on new characters Iorder the game now for seventy dollars digital pre order bonuses, although conspicuously, as I put a link in here There will be no physical special edition, which is Weird Um Insomniac has confirmed I I feel like that's gott to be a licensing issue, I guess, although I don't understand how you would run into a licensing issue with a license you're already exercising Maybe the juice isn't worth the squeeze for them as far as the money they're making on me these. I don't really know So there's that but I'm sorry good Well just I don't understand how they would run into an issue licensing Wolverine, but not Spiderm Man It doesn't really make any sense It could be, I saw someone post that like you could still buy Spider Man two special editions to this day On PlayStation direct Maybe it has something to do with that but I'm like, I don't know, man. like I think the special editions are very The thing about special dishitions is you don't make very many of them, but they're very high margin lastic chotkis and shit, and you're charing an exorbitate amount of money for them. I feel like Sony would have made their money back even selling a quarter of them. or something like that So I don't I don't know if it's that either Maybe they don't wantan to store this stuff. Maybe they just aren't gonna do special editions anymore But that also It is interesting like they're getting more, we said eighty five percent digital now on PlayStation as of last fiscal year Maybe it's just not happening for them anymore. I don' I don't know what that's about. but anyway, that's not even that important What's more important is the game Wolverine. I don't know if you saw this first of all, and I don't know if you got this vbe I didn't necessarily but it makes kind of sense is that the game's linear which is which is cool And Here's what they write. Aaron Jason Espinoza a commommunity manager It. What is this fucking title? Advanced senior community manager Mm All right If you say so says, quote, let's not mince words. Marvel's Wolverine is a brutal, violent and action packed single player adventure from our team in insomniac games in collaboration with Marvel It cuts deeper than claw combat alone with emotionally charged original story centered on comic book icon James Logan Howett, AKA Wolverine to set up our extended gameplay trailer which I'm sure you've all se Logan is tellailing a group of mutants that have been hunted and captured by the Ravers a guns for hire cybernetic militia The Revers have plans to deliver the mutants to their client, Bolivar Trask, a billionaire industrialist driven by a fanatical belief in human superiority I also have that fanatical belief We also introduce another major player in Logan's journey, Gene Greay, a powerful telekinetic and emergent leader of the captred mutant. People are upset because Ge Greay is and fuckable The situation is dire and help is limited Munans live in the shadows, feful of those hunting them while the rest of society lives unaware of their existence The only one's potentially capable of protecting their own is TX A last stand mutant task force facing its st darkest hour, which Logan rejoins after leaving three years prior. For the mutants, the fight for survival is theirs alone Dustin, what did you think of what we saw? We saw the pretty extensive gameplay extremely violent Um Looks great. I think Wolverine looks awesome, personally. Yeah, it looks pretty fun. as you mentioned, very violent and gory. Of course we saw that in the last trailer, but it's cool to see it. in action in the gameplay The fact that it is linear is veryer appealing to me Not that I don't like the occasional open world game, but I I think a lot of times that In open world games, you do tend to get a lot of fluff depending on the game Um and some people might be into that just being able to play Combat more playing the game more is good. But if they're really like locked in on this linear experience I think that could be beneficial for it. And for me, this isn't a game that I'm terribly excited for. In fact, I think we're kind of all on the same boat where it's like Gameplay looks fun I've seen a few of the Wolverine movies.' they're fun, but I don't care deeply about Wolverine as an IP or as a character, whatever To me, this just looks like a fun action game, cool action sequences. honestly kind of the same way I feel about bond as an IP and playing a game about it Bon is a little different because I really love the developer and Io interteractive and I like insomnac They're not like necessarily like my exact cup of tea. So What they showed is really promising. Um I don't Iw know what you're talking about Cin with the Ge Gray controversy. I don't know. quuite frankly, don't really care if she looks fine to me. Yeah. I dont't I'm not trying to fuck Jean Greay. Yeah I would imagine there are many people in our audience that absolutely love X men, love Wolverine. and I'm really happy for them because this looks like getting the amazing Wolverine game that you probably always wanted. So I'll be I'll be checking it out but again, like this is going to be Another fun game for me more than likely P price of the game is seventy dollars, not a huge surprise. It's going to show how disconnected NN is be coming from USD. It's eight thousand nine hundred and eighty n Its just, it's getting crazy It' almost nine thousand yen now for a brand new tripleA game in Japan from from PlayStation Chris, you're aarvel guy or Marvel adjacent guy mean and you love Spider Man. Yeah. I agree with what Dustsin was saying that The linear is good U I got that vibe when I was watching it. And They already have the open worldar Marble games in Spider Man Venom miles So to go in this linear direction, which I assume maybe they'll end up going because remember, there's supposed to be an X men trilogy after this So I wonder if that will even more blatantly set up. yeah, what are your thoughts here on Wolverine which comes ineptember I think it looks good. I think u I'm kind of with both you, I think, generally where like this is look, I'm not I like Spider Man a lot But that's really the only avenue into Marvel for me. Like I thought the MC was cool When it was going on, I thought it was interesting and novel and I appreciated some stuff there U I did like that Garden to the Galaxy game that I think was it Square Enix? D a while back? Yeah, that was was was it Montreal that did that? I think so. That was a surprisingly solid game as well. So it's not like I don't have any tethers, but X men in particular, I've never gelled with that much. I know about it. I know the X men animated series was kind of big Remember that theme song When I was a kid So like I have some ties, but it's not nearly as As intense as the spidererman connection. I think linear is good. I quite frankly don't know how you make a good O world Wolverine game to be honest. I don't think Wolverine is that interesting of a character to traverse an open world with. aggreed in the same way that Spider Man is he would have to like what would he run or something He's running? He'd be running or hopping all over the place.' like, I mean looking maniac Yeah, I just wouldn't I get it and that's good. I think it's I'm especially Coming off a bond, I just kind of I like these linear action games and I miss them. And so it's nice to see another one from a AA team U I'll definitely play it. It looks a little bit Mindless, it looks a little hack and slashy, which is like, in my opinion, fine, but I do know that that's something that people were saying Um I don't mind a hackking slash Quite frankly But As far as F first the gene Gray thing, and I don't know I don't. I could see there are certain characters where I would I would understand Yeah, likeike it was like if it was like a Syloc or something, I'd be like, what are you doing? Yeah. What are you Sylock's like an obese Yeah, like you can't make Syloc normal looking. like that's so lame Or like even like rogue or something. and storm too They're all theyre all sexy Yeah, but like Ge Gray was that ever like a like I don't know. I don't I don't know. Yeah. I'm not enough, I'm not clued into that universe enough to know for sure, but I do I know for sure those other ones are U And I do think there is an interesting I do think unfortunately, there's no way to have an interesting conversation around that without like psychotic people gleaming onto it. so I just won't Ah I think the game looks good And I'm looking forward to it. It'll be a game that that I'll get more excited for as the week of launch approaches where I'm like, okay, cool but I'm not like, Eager about it I'm sure it'll be a solid experience. What do we think about? I mean, what stood out to me the most and I was saying this and I believe this is that it is the most violent Playsttation game. I think But I think ye, you're dealing with cybernet like we were saying so what is it cyborgs, right Andide works, right? Uh this look I there' they they're semi fake So it could be like the lubricant inside. I don't know like There's got to be I really feel like there's got to be some excuse and they do say that they're like cybernetic or whatever but it's like I don't know. if I just think about parents for some reason with this game because obviously It's going to be rated whatever M, it is rated M which is fine, but that doesn't matter you have to understand no one gives a sh Yeah. likeike most parents don't care and they don't know the difference and they're not paying attention. And I just imagine You know, kids playing Spiderman too on their PS five in the living room and that's, you know, it's violent but it's really, not really violent Spiderman doesn't kill anyone. And then, you know, you get little Jimmy Wolverine and his fucking G off on these dudes and with the most viscera you've ever seen. I mean The most realistically violent PlayStation Game E is probably the last of us Or maybe The ghost games. U yeah, I would say the L of is part two probably. Right. But like as far as like just viscera likeike just blood and go and guts. This is very unusual for a Playstation game in my opinion. So I actually think that's kind of cool. And I'm they had to do it Remember we were saying that before we ever saw Wolverine like we it has to be violent. Like what are you going to do The only other successful Wolverine game that exists is also quite violent. The Raven one Yeah, ye. Xmen Origins Wolverine. Right. Great game unreasonably good what for what it is, especially around the time that it came out. wast laghrise. Yeah because it was a good license. It was like a good license game. Yeah. It's a good license. We used to get pretty decent movie based games like in the early two thousands and late nineties actually, but like that kind of petered off around like zero six, zero seven and things started it started going into a endless runners on like mobile games and shit.ike there would be like mobile game times, like in the early twenty ten. So like two thousand nine was pretty late. for like a good movie tie. Like that like never happened at that point Like it was over You have like B movie or something, you know what I mean?ike toally or like over the hedge or like do, you know, these random things that don't really matter And the next one Origins Wolverine comes out and it's like better than the movie like the unfucking heard of But They had to do it Um I do want to come back to this violence conversation later I don't mean we don't have to stop it right now. I'm just saying like we're I'm going to circle to it for a reason that I think, o Yeah, I'm going be a little fortunate going I like this Um So I am looking forward to this. I agree with you. It's not a first of all I don't need see any more of it because they they are going to show more I spoke a little bit to the director over text Marcus Smith and just congratulating him. who's a personal you know, people know he's a personal friend of mine. He's the guy behind you know, the director behind resesistance which we love and we'd like back at some point. And I know he's excited. I'm positive re pretty much positive,' have him on the show you know, closer to release And u Yeah, it's not a game I'm going to spend much time thinking about between now and then, but I know it's one of those games it's in Sonniac. It's like It's going to be great And It'll be like a very solid, very fun game. they don't really miss And that team, especially the people working on it don't So I what I want to know more about from the twenty twenty the late twenty twenty three leak a hack of insomnac That showed us all the plans going through the late twenty thousand thirties for X men. The assumption, again, we' brought up in the past, but the assumption is that venom And I'm just saying, I don't have any information on this. I'm just saying, like my assumption is venom is a PS six launch game That will be on PS five. Alla Miles Morales. That will lead into Spiderm Man three was was probably comeing out middle of the generation. Wolverine, I assume leads an X men one I guess I wonder what inssomniac is completely subsumed by Marvel at this point with the exception of like a ratchet game every eight years or whatever. So I wonder what their plan is and I wonder if they're going gonna stick that because they really are going to be just on this shit. It is very secure I mean, if you're in insomniac, pretty secure work In my opinion Especially now. Yeah. and I'm interested to see this play out with Star Wars actually quite a bit, because the new Grogu Boba Fett movie like bombed by Star Wars standards. And I think they're actually going to lose money on it, which is crazy globally Um is I'm curious how that affects like that Star Wars strategy game that's going to come out in a few months. The Star Wars Eclipse game from Chronic Dream, Jedi Survivor. Some things or Jed Eyed three or whatever. Some things are unaffected and some things are deeply affected What I find interesting about this is that Marvel is also on the decline At least for now. And these games are bigger than ever So they are kind of keeping it alive. I don't want to say they're keeping it alive They' they're carrying the torch Marvel is interesting because it like It's not quite like Star Wars. likeike there's something about Marvel that's like it remains, even in its downtime, it's kind of immune to a lot of things because like a movie will lose money, right? But then a Spider Man movie is going to come out. You know what I mean? And then it's going to make a billion dollars That's just kind of how it got like those Be I think I mentioned before, but like that Spider Man trailer for the new movie, the fourth Tom Holland movie, which like there's never been a fourth Anything for Spider Man. Right? Like as far as like, like literally, I think So That I think eclipsed by a large margin like the GTA Six reveal trailer views by like orders of magnitude and like It's a date for the GTA over like a day. So like Spiderm Man keeps that entire entire engine floating, I think as long as they have him, like they'll be Theyll kind of be golden. Do you guys know the lore about that Marvel was originally talking to Microsoft about Spider Man. Yeah, and ye That's such a past crazy What's funny is that because of the nature of insomniac then It could have been all the same except for Mrosoft Publish it then Sony would have never bought In Somniac, It's this whole dominant little domino big domino Yeah, what does I mean, you can't make fun of them too much because everyone misses like there's probably a bunch of shit people have missed on and then things you've confirmed that are bad and so on and so forth. So don't want to shit on them too much, but it's like, man, that's tough That's tough one. I mean, even what is it? Darkouls for playaysttation. Yeah, for playaystation Yeah., of course Um Yeah, I wo I wonder like what they think of that because that's such I under I understand their instinct They didn't want to they didn't want to do license stuff. I don't really blame them I mean, that's the thing you have to kind of keep in mind with this is that Sony is making a lot of money on these games, but not as much as you might think I think also around that time, if I'm not mistaken could be wr like that because that was early, right? That was way earlier than the PS four. Spiderm Man came out. Like it was in the pitching phases really, really Right right Yeahah, like in the early aus, I think. or I'm sorry not aus, the early teeenens The early teens. So like it was it after oververdrive or before? It was probably during And that was during. And it was also probably unclear who would make the game and they just didn't make that connection at the time. I think around that time, Spiderm Man games had a ceiling Like they weren't doing a likeike they were okay. like I think I think it was shtatter Shtered dimensions. dimensions and those like Yeah. I thought those gam were cool, but like were the Noir Spideran, I think was in that one Yeah Spider Manir. I think they had two of those games and I think they did reasonably well, but like not like notot like massive successes. and I think the movies were flown during around that time. Spider Man was always successful, but like around that time, I think that was like a more dubious IP technically I could see people passing on Spider Man that early And so like after MC after the MCU deal kind of happened, like I think that was, okay, it's a little bit more safe now is kind of more interesting um, some distance between and also this the basic Spiderman games Terrible It's actually crazy how shit those games are, but Yeah, the activition days were interesting. I I am Yeah, there's obviously some some symbiosis or whatever between Sony's movie licensing too And and it all makes and they kind of control it all now. Like what's interesting is that they just kind of control Spider Man outside of the comic books Like he's basically just theres in the most two visible ways that he would be there And I'm free I got to look it up. It's either ninety nine years or in perpetuity the the renting of the character. So Sony just has to keep making movies and they'll keep it forever Um yeah I find that so fascinating And isn't that where that Jared Letto movie came from Morb had to do it. Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's morbus and what is it Craven the Hunter? Craven Hunter, right? Like they had to do it, right? Like they have to It's kind of crazy that they can get away with that though. Like they justs like, Oh, we'll make a movie about a bullshit movie about some character that nobody gives a shit shit about. And that counts like I get it But like I mean, that's kind of Oh, we're going to Ohh, it's craving the hunter. What's what's he do? Oh he goes around and ra even the hunts people L like I don't even understand I don't know, man. That movie is crazy apparently. And Madam Webb also, Madam Webb. Yeah, good ye Yeah. it's funny that's I think Sony did those knowing ,'re right, like we're not we're going l money on these. We have to do it You know, like we and it's because that Disney would love have nothing more for that than that for that to lapse. Now and what a huge error that would be soony would be so stupid to let that go You can preorder now. digitally You can also preorder probably physically if you get your physical games on PlayStation direct or whatever again The Digital Dlux edition is not seventy dollars but eighty dollars and it comes with five suits and claws You get three technique points, so that's the in game upgrades and a couple of avatars for Playtation Network and so on and so forth. If you just preorder the game though straight up you get a an extra technique point and some avatars. So Reflective clause Oh, also the classic brown suit which looks stpe Like eighties, nineties? Oh yeam? Looks pretty cool U So there's not like I'll just preorder it a few days before it comes up. and get those wh wherever. I'm not going gonna preordder the special edition. No early access for these gam. Is there something about it real quick? Please, please. Inomniac He kind of puss it out. I'm not making him like four foot six or whatever the fuck his real height is Yeah, Ive saw some people saying he was too tall He's always been too tall. like's he's like been reinvented by Hugh Jackman though, like nobody cares Butike he's supposed to be like a, you know? Like a little wrestler, man I always imagineing it was like a really strong version of that guy who bet New York trumpet man, you know do you know the guy I'm talking about? I don't know. In New York City, he's like this little guy who goes like, I walked Bob Dylan up on stage He's like harassing this dude for playing trrumpet really loudly in New York. Yeah know that smallall angry man yells at Trumpet player in New York City. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like that, but if he was like genuinely strong and intimidated know your meme. Here you go. you guys want to see There is That's classic. That's a classic. Yeah. I think I think about that video like once a week. It's because isn't it hard Yeahah, his pants are like insane likeike he's got like his ps tucked in His pants are like up to his nipples and his it' Who are you? Who are you? Who are you Oh my Godd, I'm looking at a picture you. looks at the same. The shirt tucked into the pants, but it's just one like one. 's just movement. There's no This is an hate to it. Make no mistake this is an iconic character. Yeah Sony should license this guy and do a game about him guy's crazy. He didn did an interview somebody where he talks how he learned to fly He's nuts. It's awesome sorry toreveal this. It's fine. He should go he should fight bagel boss, Long Island's own bagel boss. It can be a territorial kind of dispute M yeah, yeah. How are you? Who are you? All right, Wolverine, september fifteenth exclusive to PlayStation five. I can't let me see here There are quite a few I was surprised more of these than you think are console exclusive, by the way, the games that were shown I don't give a ship, a lot people do. so we'll throw that out there as the time comes This one is a console exclusive. We've known all about it for a while, but it's second up is Marvel, Tokon fighting Souls from Arc system works This game was revealed Back in state of play a year ago to the date actually, I was looking this up. It was june fourth, twenty twenty five The game was revealed as a second party game We already know a bunch of the fighters in it. and of course, Arc systemstem is known for blaze Blue and Guilty Gear and my beloved Kuno Kun Double Dragon series and u They also do the the Grand Blue fantasy. versus stuff, which is fairly popular, I think too But they revealed three new characters which are what is it? Green gooblin, magneto, and cararnage. Yeah And u game looks great. I mean, again, it's not a game for me. I'm not going to play it. I'm even going to pretend I'm going to play it. I'm not a fighting game fan, but I'm very curious to see how this does, especially because it's going to be on PC. There's not a huge fighting game scene on PC, but it will certainly inject more players into this thing and keep it alive on PlayStation and O system is just so good and so well respected. I really wonder if people are going to come out for this. Chris, are you interested in playing this at all? Be None of us are really fighting people, but there is a little bit of an interest in this game, I guess, more broadly I am more interested now. L there's something about like these because these characters have never Well Magneto and Doom obviously have, but like Carnage and the Green Goblin, to my knowledge and s fairly extensive but like there's definitely gaps in that knowledge I don't think either of these play these characters have been playable in anything Like I don't think Carnage has ever been in a fighting game, even in maximum Carnage. I don't think he's playable or anything like that. I know Green Goblin is technically playable in the in the Xbox Movie tie in game But like this is like, it's just an interesting thing to see. likeike him on the glider like in like a fighting game. like that's actually kind of sick. Like that's very different. So I'm kind of curious about this. I've been tangentially into fighting gamesike that was like my earliest reallyally real obsession. Like I played a lot of Crash Bandicoot and Crash team racing and I love those games but like the earliest real obsession I had was with like Tech and two and Marvel versus CfCom too and Bloody roar to a lot of twoos Bloody War two and u All the Dragon Balls, Butuddacai games. like I think from like ninety nine to like two thousand six. Damn near all I played was like extensively was like fighting games. I think I hundred percent L like the Budyay ges likeultiple times.ike I was obsessed Um And so like I always kind of have tangential ventures back into that space. likeike I played a little bit of stre fighter, the new street fight, Stre fighter six I played I think the most recent teech and they came out And I quite liked it So like I think I might actually Normally I just wait for my friends to get this and play at their houses and lose spectacularly because I'm so out of practice. But I think I might I don't, this is becoming appealing to me to be honest, I think it just looks beautiful. I think the character designs are really fucking' cool Um, Like this frream G goblin design is so cool to me. Like I absutely love it. I love that it's like there's like a mix of the the rain all the Ramy gliders in the Green Gblin and like some a little bit ultimate in there I love the Japanese flavor to it all, too, like this that interesting recontextualization. It's cool, man. Yeah, I likeard I love the I was saying it on the stream too I love the pump like because Hob Goblin had them too is like the pumpkin bombs. I just love those. I think they're so that's such a cool idea Yeah, it's it's, Yeah And I loved I had the hob Goblin and the Green Goblin figures when I was younger, and I loved them on the little gliders. Like they were.ange the orange cloak. G, right. It was super super cool stuff. And like I think one of them had like a throwing motion or something for the it didn't really work for the bombs. Yeah for the bombs. Dude,'s yeah, they're just cool They're just cool characters Like just straight up So I'm I'm pretty stoked it. I'm getting more excited. I didn't think I would be as excited as I am for it, but looking at this image is like, yeah, dude That's fucking say it Yeah, and seeing Carnage is cool as well. It's interesting that, I mean, I'm not a Marvel guy, but it's just an interesting thing to have like a mture of kind of There are a few characters in here I've never even heard of magic I don't know that is danger. I don't know who that is. But then you have Penny Park, which is that's the Japanese Spider manan, right? O Spider girl That's yeah, yeah. She's in Spiderverse and I think she's also in Marvel rivals. Gotcha. she's kind of more in the mainstream now than she used to be. But And you have Iron Man, Black Panther, Captain Mmerica, the bigger character. So it must be fun. It must be fun to sit around the table and try to figure out what you're going to do because you have you have a bunch of you want to save things for DLC, maybe even a sequel. you don't want to like I always think about that when you have access to things. I've thought about it, I guess selfishly like if I ever got the GI Joe license, which is probably never going gonna to happen. but for also Lill, whatever it's like You gott to make decisions becausecause you can't like do the cool you might you can't do all of the coolest shit Because then you leave yourself at a disadvantage or whatever should you go forward Dustiner, you interested at all in Marvel Tokon fighting Souls, which will appear by the way for those interested at EVo june twenty sixth And then the game comes out shortly thereafter Not interested at all. Looks cool. I just don't like fighting games. So and if I was going to get into a fighting game, I wouldn't spend seventy dollars on one So and yeah, Marvel is Not really my thing, but Yeah, the new characters look really cool love the key art for carnage Looks pretty sick 's so he's so ninetyies, dude I love Garned is so unapologetically like A child of the nineties, like design wise. It's so cool. Yeah, I always u Was he McFarlan as well I think he must be. like be wrong Because Venom was like late eighties, right? And he was McFarlane. and it it's funny L like like you brought maximum carnage, That's always what I think of when I think you punish her Yeah like yard of him like it like a yeah, it's and I think the cartridge you had the red cartridge, right? Yeah Yeah I don't know, man So that's two games. Number three Rayman leegends retold. this game leaked Oh and by the way, I don't know I said it tooton com out, augustth P five PC Rayman Legends Rold is coming october first This is a remake, ground up remake of Rayman Legends, which I think is the most recent Rayman game came to PS three in VIita and elsewhere in twenty thirteen, excellent game Ubft Montpeelier did it. And I think they're doing this one as well, which would not be a huge surprise Montpeelier did some interesting stuff, like do you remember the game from Dust Yeah U They did us. They did Vallallying hearts, which we know about, but I think they're best known these days for well they did Prince of Persia the new Prince of Persia, the Lost Crown Metroidvania and they're the Beyond Good Nvil stududio. So slowly somewhere in the bowels of that fucking team in France, is is that being made as well? But they're working on this So Rayman Legends retold, I think is the fifth r like core Rayman game because there's Rayman one, two and three and then Rayman Origins and then Rayman Legends. I think those are the five And ye, this looks Awesome. I mean, now we do have a reasonable question, I think from the audience and a lot of people are asking this, B cops wrote in and said he Hello Sacred gents Hope all as well Amongst the plethora of pointless remakes and remasters out there, would you say that the updated Rayman Legends is up there for the most redundant. sure it looks nice but theriginal, especially the PS four port is already one of the most gorgeously designed games out there Glad to see Origins get an enhanced port alongide it. but do you see this truly being a better version Hoping this is just leading to another sequel after, but will you be trying this one, thanks and take care It is a little weird because I agree like so Rayman One was a PS one launch game. That was, you know, seeptember ninety five It was also on a bunch other shit. It was on fucking Jaguar Um And then Rayman two, the great escape came to PS one in nineteen ninety nine and then I think came to PS two in two thousand, like late in two thousand And that was also on N sixty four and a bunch other shit. And then Rayman three hoodle him haavoc came to PS two, GameCube Xbox and was even on Egage in two thousand three. So and then origins twenty eleven. So origins and leegends are like the more modern ones And it is a little weird that they just didn't go back and redo the earlier ones. I don't know. So it is a little strange, but I'll still take it. I think the games are awesome. I'm totally going to be all over this. D't since you didn't much about Tokon, do you have anything say about Rayman I have not played Rayman Legends. I did play origins and if I remember, maybe Rayman Legends was the game that was originally I think it was originally a W U exclusive And then after at least this is what Wikipedia is confirming from my memory is that since due to financial failures of Zzombie you, the release was delayed six months and then the game was made multi platform So it it's this is a bones of a Wi U game, which is kind of funny by What I brought up on the stream is what the write in mentions is that I think it does look Good Bye. I really like the classic Ti style of the original and origins, of course. So I'm not immediately like, ah, yes, this is such a big improvement. This is just like a different version But again, I haven't played Rayman leegends to really speak on it, but That being said, I still think it looks really fun Rayman, the original Rayman was one of the first games I ever played on PlayStation So I do have a nostalgic connection to it I picked up that Rayman collection that Digital Eclipse did that they completely bungled because they didn't get the original music Yeah I bought this, too but I barely played it Get the imit Jason Put me in the credits for this I'm giving you a tip Yeah, you license the original music. He's getting upset that he's not I bet you've never heard that before from anyone that said like, oh, you need the original music. Hari is doing so much dude. we're going to talk about that later. Oh yeah, I'm really excited about that So Yeah, it looks fine I think a little I understand the sentiment of like ull a new three D Rayman or you know, two D three D Rayman, I think would have been a little more exciting. Yeah, u I have no real opinion on it one way or the other. I think Chris, the bigger thing I'm excited about or not excited interested about, I should say, with Rayman is I guess Reman's bigger than I thought Like I Rrayman just never read to me as this really super relevant thing, but But it It's very myopic, I think to think of it that way. People seem to really be excited about it. So what do you think Yeah, I mean the more I see of it, the more I'm kind of like, yeah, I don't know. Like I mean, I think it's it's cool to know that there's still juice behind the IP, I guess and that they still care about it enough to invest in projects evenven if it is just a remake of somethingomething that we did have before and something very recent as well Um I do think Rayman kind of got away from itself with like the rabids thing grranted, that whole thing is like very successful somehow, like that is one of that by the way is one of those things where like, I would have been the idiot, You know what I mean? in the executive room Making be like, we're gonna to make a fucking ame about the rabbids cares. Right. Yeah. yeah. and and then you just walk out with egg on your face you're just like, All right, We don't know everything Um yeah, I don't know. The more I look at it, the more I'm kind of like, it looks a little bit Unreal enginey to me, like compared to the original game, which I think has like a ust a little bit more distinct style to it I'm sure this is going to be good and I'm sure It was relatively lean to put this thing together. so I don't think it'll do poorly or anything, but I am kind of less interested in it as I see and learn more about it, especially because again I've already played this So the priority is already kind of low a new rayman would have been more exciting or a remake of the old games. Yeah, like that's would have been more interesting to me. That's a little surprising. too the point of the letter we got in, and it's like, yeah this game is available natively in its original version on PS four. so you can play it on PS five, It was ported later. So Yeah, going backwards would be maybe more difficult, but it would But I think it would be be the way to go. I always wonder that like should there should be a better strategy. likeike what Capcom seems so deliberate with resesident evil for instance They're jumping around a little bit, but it's Like is the intention of doing all of these? Is this just a way for Ubisoft to make some reliable money and income that they need so badly right now I don't know if you guys saw did they did they I think the I saw a picture I don't know if it's Drw or out that they make the reed headad like Chick flatter In this did you see there Yeah I couldn't tell it was a guy. It looked like a guy to me. I was like, arere you serious, Lon? What what are we doing here? BeCause there's a shot in the trailer. I was like, isn't that kid I always read that as a kid. I guess as an adult, I don't I I assume because there's cleavage that it's not a kid, but Yeah you're right. Let me see I can find Oh yeah., yeah, you're right. So here's here's's fucuckking me though, because like at the in the PlayStation blog at the very the last thing that they have on it is like a a gIF or like a repeating Soundless video Oh yeah, yeah you see. I And I mean, I mean, it's not doesn't seem It seems normal to me like I don't Yeah I don't I don't I'm not really playing Rayan for the tits. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. Like I don't know, man. everybody I Fucking beg you to go outside. Yeah, like the please for the love this is crazy at this point. It's funny because the u People say like a of, especially young men are like porn brain broken you know, and ye It's not something I've ever really I'm trying to like brag. I mean, everyone's watched porn, but it's like I don't have that problem, you know, I don't care It's, you know, things can be hot, you can be doing whate you want. I'm judging But I've never internalized it, you know And yeah. Then you see the constant feedback. And I'm like, damn, I think a lot of people really are fucked in the head You know her like totally fucked in the head. Like they look for sex and sexualization everywhere. And I'm like, that is insanity. Like I am If anything, I am and I've said it aillion times, I'm frude and I'm tired of the sexualization of everything. I think everything's oversexualized and gross weird. So it's like, I can't imagine going through life the other direction and you're just looking for tits everywhere. It's like, get a gri And they say I am getting a grip of my penis in my bedroom Yeah, yeah, not too much of a grip. Yeah D't squze life for yourself Not too firm Number four Banchro the chef This has no date yet, but this is a new reveal. It's from Mint Rocket, the studio behind Dave the Diver, which launched back in twenty twenty three, though it came to PS four and PS five in twenty twenty four I never played it. I did buy it. I bought it with PlayStation Stars pointoints back in the day and I just never I just never spun it off. I bought that game Dredge with u Source points as well and I never I never played that either. Soaybe'll get to those one day But Mike I really loved David Diver a lot. Um Are we interested in Banh the chehef Chris. I mean, I like the style of it, but like I tried I got that I liked the vibe of what they were doing with the trailer. Like I thought it was actually kind of fun. I think it was more interesting than Dave the Diver to be honest, but I've played a little bit of Dave the Diver and I know what that gameplay loop is like and it's just it's not It's that it's great or that I don't like it. I think it was one of those things where I was just like, I'm not in the mood for this right now Like I'm not feeling this at all at the moment But I could see a time and place where like I might kind of settle into a groove with this. But I can't really I can't really make a judgment call. I'm not really interested in it on that note. I think I would have to finish Dave the Diver to even really No. Right because the games are connected, right? Banch is a character in Dave the Diver and there's I think so. yeah. And I think it says here in the press release As players expand their culinary expertise, they'll unlock new recipes, attract more customers and earn the approval of localasters who advance to new regions all while uncovering Banche's personal journey and connections to the world of Dave of the Diver. So I guess it's like a Dave of the Diver universe. sort of thing. And David Diver herself is getting an expansion as well, which they write briefly about. Didn't they have a Godzilla expansion or something Yeah, that sounds right. That sound familiar. Yeah, that sounds right But it looks great. I just again, it's just one of those games on a pile in a pile of games I just and I don't know what I'm going to get to, but I do I do like it. I'm sure Mike is going to be all over this on swwitch two Justin, will you be playing this I'm mildly intrigued because I'm with Chris where I played a little bit of Dave the Diver and it didn't really intrigue me, but the line from the PlayStation blog where it says Unli Dave the Diver, where the player only served dishes in the sushi bar, The core gameplay loop in this This time as you cook meals and serve them directly? Yeah It's a cooking or some shit. It's Well, you know what made me think of for the real ball knowers out there. There was a PlayStation underground disc. that had a demo Japanese only cooking game. And I found it's called Oreo U Riori Come on, you can do better than that. your invative language Oh. still using it. Still stillill using that j. Good. Um, that demo This what I'm seeing from this looks just like that demo. And I played that demo all the time when I was a kid So it's kind of cool Kind of cool But we'll see, it all depends on when it comes out and Kind of interesting they went from the pixel art to a full three D Yeahoney. I like to see that. kind of you know, I think it's cool that games kind of change around That's the most intriguing part of it to me. I do like the character design too. I like There's something, um Very like Tsunami Coded about this bancho character, likeike, I don't know. like I'm kind of like already endeared. Like guy like him seems cool I didn't play enough Dave the Diveron. It's one of games where I' like, man, I do kind of want to No p like dive into it, no pun intend Be it is it does seem like there's quality there. But I'm just, I don't know. Theres a lot There's a lot of things competing for one s. much there's so much stuff So there's no shame in that. I mean, there's a million things I want to play that I think look awesome. So I hear you one hundred percent. And yeah, I like I like I like the cut of this game's jib a little bit like more than Dave the Diver. I think And I think I just think of Mica because I know her love of food games and all this is like right upy Um No date on that yet But presumably twenty seven. They're moving pretty quick. It's crazy when you think it's like, yeah, it's so qu so quick four years All right. Yeah U Fifth up is an interesting one, Kemari This game is coming in twenty twenty seven, and I promise you Id tell you when things this is console exclusive. Playstation which is pretty interesting So you can go to Kamuriworld. com, which is their website K E m U Ri worldorld. com But this is the new game from Ikumi Nakamura the first game from her studio Unseen. You'll remember Akumi Nakamura, she was the original director of Ghostwire Tokyo Tango and left during the development of that game, which gave people kind of pause on what this future of that game would be Think Makami himself finished it, right And then, um, I think that's right. And then Uh Gost where I took you ended up being actually pretty awesome So this game has a pretty similar spirit to it, at least from Japanese supernaturalism and after lifeife sort of things, which is cool U But I was reading a little bit about Nakamura and I knew this stuff, but I hadn't thought about it because I remember researching this when everything went down with her. But she was originally at Capcom and worked on street fighter games. and I think one of her first games was a comedy, she did Marvel versus Calcom three as an illustrat And when those guys all left Clover to go and found platinum, she went with them. I didn't know that Um, So she was like a concept designer on Bayonetta. And then She went with Mcami to Tango becausecause obviously, people broke off of Platinum from there and then she was obviously the lead artist on the evil within. so She has a lot of experience, but it's been a while since' gotten the game out And I think this game looks pretty cool. I remember what we were saying about this during the stream was I feel like they're showing it weird They weren't really showing the game contextually and so it was just a lot of Anime style, third person open world action, which is cool, but I'm like, what is the context What are you doing? What is happening This this felt like the second trailer You know what I mean? Like this seems like like the okay, this is the gameplay deep dive now that you kind of get a vibe for it Um, and I can already see the comments of being like you it was like you thought they Theado war trailer was too long and too much context. and now it's like, there's not enough context. It's like, list We know what Godw is. We have some contextual understanding of what God of war is This is completely new So like it helps to know a little bit about what we're trying to do here. this It's got. But it looks like, I don't know This is Is this a primarily game Beuse that's kind of the thing, right? Yeah, it's single player or co op but I think it's made for co op Yeah. I think it's three player co op Yeah. So that doesn't interesterest me as much, but I like, I mean, the gameplay looks kind of cool. L it reminds me of a little bit ofnset Odrive, little bit of u A little bit of it is going to sound like a negative, but I promise it's like the good parts of a suicide squad. whereere like I was like, this should just be something else. Right, right This should simply be another thing I like the style of it quite a bit. likeike I think it's cool. I just I I would prefer to know a little bit more about like is there a ike Im, is there a story Yeah, there must be. I mean, I think they're probably just being coy about it right now. It says Quote Kemori is a Yokai posession action game set in the chaotic world of Kemi City, Kemori, whatever, where life and death coexist. Players will confront the paranormal as they explore a sprawing vertical city traversing rooftops, back alleys, hidd rins alone or an online co op without the two other players And basically you're a Yokai hunter. I assume it's gameplay base, but there's got to be some sort of u through line to it I imagine. And I do like the style of it I dig the kind of cartoonishness meets Japanese lore, like the fox masks and all that kind stuff. el looks bad to me I just, again, I think I would have liked to see more context, but maybe we did see all the context, which would be a little more worrying. Dustin, what do you what do you what do you think about this Yeah, I really like there's a part in the trailer that's about a minute in that shows Some of the different traversal of the characters, whether it's one of them is like sprout wings, one has like ribbons that it kind of glides along So I'm curious about how that aspect, Chris mentioned suuicide Squad, but this idea of you and three other people in a semi open level. then you know, traversing around the map together and fighting things. It's like, oh, okay that really is Yeah reminiscent of suicide squads. So I'm curious about it. I think it looks fun. I'm not It's not like The most unique style I've ever seen. It kind of reminds me of them. K pop demon hunters in a way, but I guess it would be J pop J pop demon hunters in this case becauseop JPop Yokai Well I guess you're not lookingking you okay, right? You' wearingother. So I would like to see more. O this game for sure on alive the Just League Oh, yeah. I forgot Forever, forever sleep or whatever the hell we called it? yeah, Slf rememember. Sververs S fververs of squad the Justice Leag. I think look I think u Yeah, I just I want to know more because I do I think it looks cool. Like I think it looks like the gameplay looks really solid Aain Suicide Squad's big problem was the fact that it was a live service game that had no business and it was also ugly and it just had no reason being A suicide squad game Like it made like nothing about that game made sense. But like I remember playing it pretty extensively and being like the bones kind of work here It's just like This is completely the wrong. It would be like if How don't even know it be like if you put Quint Tarantino in charge of like, a fucking Charlie Brown movie, you know what I mean? It's like this doesn' This simply doesn't fit. All right Please stop. Yes, yes. Make this something else. But this looks cool. I just want to know more story to be honest with you. Now that Sony owns peanuts, we're gonna get some fucking Charlie Brown shit. probably. Oh my go. I imagine they did like a sad dad simulator style. Right. My daughter's dead, Charlie Brown. It's fucking so crazy A some bald headed fucking freak around an unreal engine and unrealated Yeah, they show like Lucy taking the football away like in sllow Mo and like unreal Engine six Yeah looks a rocket leeague it's a tragic story All right. Number six, Tomb Raider Legacy of Atlantis was shown off. We have a release date for this title. of february twelfth, twenty twenty seven. so pushed out a little bit, which is fine Um This looks, I think, excellent. As people have probably know Legacy Atlantis is a remake of the nineteen ninety six original T Rider game though it is the second remake I forget that Tomb ridor anniversary, which came out in two thousand seven is also a remake the original Tom Raidor game which I think I platinumed when it came to PS three You know, So this is a this is a So there as people know, there's another two Raider game in development That's like the next two minor game and Crystal Dynamics itself is doing that. Crystal Dynamics is act in a production capacity on this game and flying Wild Hog is making this game And Amazon is acting as publisher Um, So Flying Wild Hog, I like f Flying Wild Hog a lot because I really like evvil West, which I thought was an awesome game. and I hope that game gets a sequel. But they're probably best known for the Shadow Warrior tririlogy, which I've never I think one of them was in PS plus so I think I have one of them And then they did those games. remember the game H hard reset They did that game. and then they did more more recently Trek to Yomi did pretty well, I think Actually remember that So of course, Tomb Raider begins in the mid nineties with core design doing the original games, and depending on how you count, this is the fourteenth Tb Raider game. No Well, I should use a different word. it's like core designed. It's the fourteenth mainline to raidor game And it was first shown off at the Game Awards just last year as we saw The new game is Catalyst By the way, and that will come later I'm all over this. I'll definitely play this. I think this looks awesome. I also just want to say in an era where everyone's complaining about females and female representation, rightfully so, maybe in some ways about why everyone looks weird B guff the topot They didn't, I don't think they She's not as buxome as the original Termbidor, but I think that in modernity that would look very weird. And Like with with UE five style graphics or whatever the fuck they're building this game in. It's like, you don't need just need to have double D's , but they didn't like they didn't make her masculine or put clothes on or anything like that. She looks great. So like I think there's really nothing for anyone to complain about. I guess the only thing we'll know is whether the u The game will be good or not when it comes out, Chris, A are you interested? I'm so pumped I'm so excited. I like Tomb Raider is such a weird game likeike especially the first Tomb Raid because like There's been so many ports and so many revisitations of it in comparison to a lot of other things that like And they've never like because they did the u, oh my god, what's the aspire? I think did the the remake trilogy Right. But those were like very faithful. Like I think in ways like I appreciate them Because like I can kind of contxtualize what I'm playinged on when they came out. likeike I don't really I don't mind janky gameplay if I understand the games like go But it is kind of a rough thing to experience start to finish for like, if you're just trying to experience like a a game, and you're just trying to turn your brain off and not really actively think about like, okay, I have to adjust Um And Tomb Raider anniversary, I think, is sort of a remaster also or like a remake of like, I think. Yeah Tomber anniversary is a remake for sure of the original. It's a reimagining of the original game too. and that's kind of old now too. So like just to have a more proper modern recontextualization of the first T Raidor game, which I think is very special, but has like a lot of barriers to entry. I remember I played the shit of as a kid don't know how I manag it to be honest with. I don't. I don't know how I managed it This looks great I think Laura Croft looks fantastic I just love this outfit dude Like it's so iconic. Yeah, it's great. Like that exact blue. You know, on the tank top and the u the shorts and the two pistols. Like it it's such a cool fucking character. Yeah, I like the socks like sneaking up above the boot line a little bit Git Yeahner. backackpack it's def I mean, it's one of the most iconic designs in gaming history Um, yeah. Yeahah, they embraced it, they figured out and I think that's really cool. Although I think crystalnamic dynamics in their reimagine trilogy She was also great in that. I don't know. Yeah they they never really truly botched it, I think They just it was just like underwhelming really. I really loved. I can't remember what it would like it was when we were when we were doing the show. it came out. S raer Shadow. I really loved it until a certain point And then like that that point reallyally kind of soured it 'causeuse it felt they were making a progression, like a natal progression to the end of the trilogy and then they just completely undid it I just remember being like this is You almost had like a really great trilogy, I think And it was just kind of fun. Yeah. they they u It's funny, likeike, do you remember that game leaked on a train I'll never forget that like some Oh no,, I don't remember that. that someone was like looking at shit on a train in Montreal, like on a laptop of like assets and like like a like a like a deck for it And people someone took pictures of it and like I got fired That's kind of f. like No man. That's kind of insane. I got dude's working He's working off the clock You fired him for that? snuts I remember that really well for some reason. that's rough. That is rough All right There is an interesting part of this Dustin Let's get you in in here first, and then I'll read what I want to readar from one of our listeners. Legacy of Atlantis Are you going to be gooning to it Oh, I don't know about Gony But I will be playing it because I have never, well Yeah, I've never played the original Tomb Raider And I think wasn't the like remaster on PlayStation plus maybe months ago. Yeah So I have access to it. I need to I want to at least experience a little bit of that before I go and play this full remake just to know what I'm getting into But I really started like Tomb Raider from the original rebooting from I don't know if it's the original reboot, but the most recent reboot. The Tomb Raider twenty thirteen. twenty thirteen game. I think Yeah, that's right, twenty thirteen. Yeah. It was a crushed end too, I think at that time Yes. And then remember the controversy about the sequel was that it was a time to Xbox exclusive. People got really remember people got really upset about that. Oh, right ye. 'cause they were weird about communicating Yeah Like they would say like they wouldn't say it. It's like, just say it Jesus Christ, what's the point? what is it even the point if you won't say it She writer reboot is like one of the first games played O one of the new games I played on my PC when I first built it Now, Chris, I don't know if you still have the trailer up att one hundred thirty one. I said this during the stream and I want to confirm this guy's giving me a George Lucas vibe He's like Laura, we need to There's going to be a tomb a Jedi tomb one hundred thirty when you said? Yeah, it's a one hundred thirty what Uh He's got like, he's got like a John Goodman vibe to me, Like like o a very specific era, John Goodman. Yeah, yeah He's like a skinny John Goodman Yeah It's Jonathan Misa Misa getting a little horny. you M Mis so war M so warorning It's absolutely chaotic or fucking disgusting. I hate that Hey, they said that God, this looks so cool. I' really, I'm really excited about this man. There is a controversy around this game though. G regarding AI I put a link in here for you guys if you wantan to see Eurogamer was reporting on this. Tomoraer or L leegac of Atlantas comes with an AI disclaimer. So people have basically noticed that If you go to the steam page for the game, there's a disclaimer that reads quote, AI assisted tools were used during development to support some early exploration and temporary development content Any AI assisted assets were either replaced or refined by humans in order to maintain the creative and artistic vision. of the development team E quote. And they say this isn't totally uncommon and it's not something you have to do. you get a lot of trouble on steam People have been kind of freaked out about this and crystal Dynamics provided Euroogamer with a statement, which I actually think makes it kind of worse says, quote At Crystal Dynamics, we leverage AI tools to help our teams iterate on ideas faster and more efficiently, while ensuring that all finished content in the final product is human crafted. O goal is to empower the creativity and flexibility of our developers to deliver the highest quality experiences for players everywhere.ote What they're basically, I mean, the way I read this is saying like so you let the AI come up with the idea and then you just redraw it or redo it It's it's just it's kind of bankrupt. Also The game already exists. You guys can't even you guys can't even reconceptualize assets in a story that has existed for thirty years You need AI to do that? Are you fucking stupid Yeah And It iss like someone's like make a new toombaid and then it's like,a, and you're like juggling fucking, you know plates and shit like that. It's like, dude the game exist. It's already been remade. Yeah, that's kind of crazy It's so a little I again, like I think People's tolerance of this Um Its going to be up to you I guess Kyle Martin wrote about this since the HyDC. Just saw the news around Tom Raader using AI generated assets that were later refined or replaced by artists C curious if that changes your thoughts on picking it up. I'm a software engineer and at this point, I'm honestly so burned out by the constant AI discourse that I've started tuning out a lot of it I'm not thrilled about it but I'll probably still buy the game feel similar to how people wrestle with things like Saudi or Chinese involvement in entertainment and tech Eventually the moral calculus becomes this impossible spinning loading icon in your brain Anyway, love the show and appreciate all the work you guys put out. I agree. it's like I am I want to show a level of consistency This is the kind of communication we want, so at least you know. Right, yeah. And you have to make a decision for yourself I'll still pick it up. I guess I'm not that offended by it. I don't know what the line would be for me. I just feel like it's kind of shitty to say like, yeah, we use AI to iterate on ideas, and then we replace them So I'm like, all right, so you your guys are basically just like in the in the art coal mines, I guess redrawing the computer's ideas instead of coming up with concept art themsel. I just For I guess I'm saying is for this particular game, which just doesn't even really make any sense. It's a weird It's a weir. Yeah, there's already, there'sready thing to base off The game first of all, the original game is based on real places already. So you can just look up You know, like I know one's saying you have to ship a team out there to take pictures of like, Oh, what is You know, what is this ancient civilization to look like? You know what I mean? Like go out there and take pictures like like the fucking Grnd Rrismo guys photos of mufflers. Yeah. Like nobody's how every Gnd Arismo game leaks. It's like o the Gnd Rrismo guys are at the fucking' track again Yeah, I just, uh It just seems like a weird implementation. To me, I know where my line is and my line is ultimately Although I do think it's lame that you use it in any capacity really, like ultimately, to be honest Um Especially for like developing concept art and like trying to figure things out Ultimately, my real issue is if this stuff ends up supplanting the concept artists and the the three D artists and the people who are making the things Like if if you have a game that like has literally like it ships with AI generated assets And that's literally in the game and it's like that's That's completely uninteresting to me At the very least, What's in the game is man madeade. You know what I mean That's fine to me. Yeah. better blame It's lame. that you even had to do it, but it doesn't cross a line from me necessarily unless you're literally like putting putting a computer's work in the game You know what I mean? if that makes sense? Yeah,, it does make sense. I I don't know. I agree with what Kyle's saying where it's becoming exhausting. I know it's becoming exhausting for our audience. It's becoming exhausting for us to talk about I also feel like in the grander scheme of things, AI might You don't want to say it's peering out. We've said before, there's going be dominant force in AI It seems like there's a sufficient amount of resistance to it and that it's not quite fitting Right? in a lot of places where people are starting to become more skeptical of it. I was talking to someone recently, actually at a family function And I was saying like the thing that' saving us from AI, taking over is that we're still so far behind in robotics And once you confuse these things together, then's I'm not saying like you're going make a terminator. What I'm saying is like you can make like sentient things to do stuff for you And then it's over Until then I feel like it's about intellectual adoption of these tools by a discipline on a discipline level It's like art engineering, music, whatever. I just struggle I struggle to come up with any excuse for using it other than that you want to save money Yeah I don't really give a shit ike I don't care I' care about your m So Now So to me, I'm like, you got to come up with better excuses. likeike it's it's it's I think I guess what I'm saying in a roundabout in bad wayays They're having a hard time marketing this shit Because they realize that it's completely devoid of meaning and purpose. It's a great tool that can tell you and show you anything you want, but at what cost, both literal and figurative then they'll be like, we get to save money It's, well the game's not cheaper is You're going to charge sety bucks for, right By the way, flying world Hogs in Poland So It' it's that it seems so forced in comparison to like everything that like takes off usually is like the phone like smartphones, natural You know, they didn't have to force you to They didn't have to like get rid of Google search and replace it with AI. You know what I mean That would have been an opt in thing that everybody would have done if it was cool or interesting or So it is just, u Also half of it's wrong all the time. I think there's a general danger of just replacing Ignition. with machines. Like I think that's just like a It's already a bad thing in my opinion that Uh What is it? Word processors underlined when when you make a mistake You know what I mean? Like Be I can already I already feel. Or that that you could look up the definition of anything or look up any facts because I can already feel myself deprioritizing that information because I know I can just find it any moment Like I'm aware that's happening. Right. So like it's just going to This is way worse in my opinion. It's like it's that at an exponential level. And if you're just If you're relying on this shit to make art, like I don't I don't know I think it's meegalame Yeah, I just don't get it. I don't, I don't get it Give a fuck about your games being cheaper to me. You have to figure that out your own way And I guess this is your way to do that, but The rubber will hit the road at some point as long as everyone's totally honest and exposing what is using AI or whatever. You know, I told you guys like but when we were making Se Slayare, I was like, just to be sure because we work with some contractors. Like we're not using AI anywhere, right And we're not, but it's like that's like we'll never do that And I just like as the person who writes this stuff, it's like, well, I'm gonna tell Chat Ch P to write it for me. Like what do you razy I just and then o it, but I rewarded it Yeah,s like okay There's interesting conversations to have about it, but But I agree it is getting long in the tooth. like We're in a stasis moment right now where like you we gott to just see how this plays out I don't think it's playing out exactly the way I thought it would though Like I think I think what we're seeing is a level of urgency with some of these companies where people are not adopting these tools requisite to the money they're spending and now it's becoming an urgent issue They have these billions of dollars wrapped up in these data centers People are subscribing on a corporate like enterprise level to like Claud or openpenAI or whatever, and they are spending sometimes hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars a month. you know, on those tools Did you see the one thing that was going around that someone had like clauded open? Like someone didn't realize you can throttle a clauded, so he bought like a license for his company didn't throttle its usage, and then he had like an a eight hundred thousand dollars bill or something. because it was just good It was like Yeah, Yeah, exactly. It's like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. So I think as I've said before, I think what will end up happening is that there will be an AI monopolist becausecause that's the way it happened with everything else And it's probably going to be Claude looks like right at this point or whoever, what does that company call that me? I don't remember anymore. But anthropic Anthropic, right It depends on whether China already has something that's fucking crazy by comparison that we just don't have access to because it's It's everything sealed off Um And they the Gemini stuff going on right now. like It's just, it's just. It's everything's dystopic I guess, really. it's like it's Your phone's listening to you and serving you ads We've talked about this in the past, like it's doing that. Yeah. it is doing that And everyone's like, there right what's for dinner So like it's hard to make anyone care about something more trivial. AIR. Y only way your only hope is that like just hoping that there's so much information that it's oens like it might as well be out there, you know, like what's that I can't remember there's like a term for it, I think, where there's like, ike every's if everybody's information gets stolen, then it's effectively as if no one's has. Right. Exactly. L your anonymity is kept because the volume of a of stuff. Well, we'll see. Anway Tomaeror Legacy Atlant, PlayStation five, february twelfth . The seventh game is a new one. I don't have so much information about this. This is the first game. It's The Lost Wild. It comes from greatreat ape games I was reading a little bit about them. This is their their first game, but they are self described AA studio which I think is kind of cool Um This game looks pretty neat. I don't know that I have very much to say about it. I think some people thought it was like Dino Cisis or something. It does have that vibe. I wonder If it's they talk about alien isolation actually a lot when you if you read about it about like a kind of cool a touchstone for them Um It was what I thought when I was watching the trailer. Yeah looks beautiful And I like games where you're kind of like sneaking. And I don't mean stealth games. I mean like You're trying to survive, you're trying to infiltrate You know, you're trying to just get by and get places. So yeah, Chris, what do you think about You anything you want to say about the lost wild. Um, I mean, I like the idea. I like the idea of alien isolation, but with dinosaurs. I think that's kind of cool. That's an interesting Um, fantasy that I don't think has been done yet. L there's no dinosaur stealth games You know, not really as far as I know, likeike I'm sure there's like Arc survival has dinosaurs order that you got to like maybe like sneak byer And I guess technically Horizon like crouching in the tall grass, I guess M Sony Gress Yeahah, the Sony grass. So I like I'm going to have to see gameplay to determine whether or not I truly care, but I like the idea and I'm rooting for it. What was the Chris? What was we identified four games, right? was it? It was uncharted Horizon, deeath stranding And Yot, the ghost games all use the same grass mechanic Oh yeah. Holy grass Yeah, the last of us, u A lot of games use that grass thing. It's really funny Games James Bond does as well. Yeahah. Yeah, the craft mechanic It's funny to me that everybody did it's funny to me that without question, everybody was just like, yes. crouching the tall grass, as if that works at all. Yeah, like the grass is just fluttering and like moving Yeah, it's like it's you are so clearly visible and it's like it's one thing if it's like, truly tall grass because I've been in places with like tall grass and it is actually fucking insane. It's never truly tall grass that you're in. You're in really You're in just arguably like kind of it's like maybe like three feet likeike three, four feet up which is like belowost Tall Tall grass is like Itole at like eight feet. It like reads along the water or something like that Exactly Lis Like that's that I can understand, but it's always so funny to watch them like look right at you and you're like I guess it's aame playayvie kind, It would be really annoying if stealth AI truly realistic Be you would just never Like you can't sneak up on people By the way, when I say that easy. When I say corn rows, I don' mean the hairstyle I mean rows of actual corn crops. Oh, yes, yes yes Dussin It's described here in the press release quote the In the Lost Wild, players embark on an immersive evasion based survival horror experience. I like that term. where they are pitted against nature's ultimate hunters, dinosaur They assume the role of Seskia who wakes up on a mysterious island overrun by prehistoric creatures interesteresting Jurassic Park To survive Saski must explore derelict research facilities nestled in a lush wilderness and be resourceful while evading and overcoming this unstoppable threat. and quote, Anapern is acting as publishher, so it's got a little bit of money behind it and belief, what do you think I'm more interested in slower paced first person games, particularly because of resident evil U and I can understand the connection. it's like, oh, they're doing what they did with the Ron evil but with Dino Crisis, that connection of thinking it could be that, but Um So I'm intrigued by it. I'm a little unsure of the like no Combat just because I find that the games I've played where it's like only hiding Fr enemies I can get pretty annoyed with usually But I think for a, you know, a self proclaimed AA game, like visually it looks really impressive. So I'm guessing it'll probably just be like a a shorter runtime of a game, maybe something like that, but Uh prettyty good for their first outing. Jurassic Park Visually, it's really crazy, like theind. fifty eight seconds in like there's something about like the lighting on the fog on the tre line. It's like, this is a really good looking game Yeah, I think I'll check this out when the time comes. It's a PS five console exclusive Interestingly enough And it comes out in twenty twenty seven Number eight is Phantom Blade Zero. They didn't really we were noting it during the stream. it's like they kind of were like, well U got we're moving the date and we don't really we can't it's like, all right, like, you didn't really need to show this at all. I don't think. But they delayed it again from september ninth october twenty ninth in the danger zone at this point, I think Um, I was a little put I put it so KB Zero underscore official is their official Twitter account And um, I thought their letter was a little weird. They wrote this letter First of all, it's one of those letters where I'm like is that response where it's like, I'm not reading that congratulations or whatever kind of thing. But I did read it because I have to, it's my job And what they basically say is in part, and I don't know, maybe you guys find this way, but I find don't find a way, but I do, quote over the past few months We haveve been streamlining content and focusing our efforts on polishing the area that matters most During this process, I saw one final opportunity for Fanom Blade Zero to make another meaningful leap forward. We have upgraded a number of character models and reworked many environments across the game, pushing them towards the highest standard we can currently achieve We have also spent additional effort preserving as much of the visual impact as possible, even without relaying on ray tracing. Of course, ray tracing will further enhance the visuals, but our priority is to make sure the core look, atmosphere and intensity of Panta Blade zero comes through ro full force for as many players as possible That sounds great is where I think it gets weir A fifty day delay cannot solve everything But it does give us enough time to complete a number of clearly defined and genuinely important improvements These refinements will directly affect how the game feels when players first step into the world of Pantom Blade Zero We could have delivered some of them through post launch updates, but for the players who choose to join us on day one, we believe they deserve the best version of Fantablade Zero we can deliver from the beginning, and quote I just think it's weird to say It won't matter. We can't fix everything in the time allott it. If that's true, then delay it In fact, I think pushing it in February or March might be your best bet U But it might be a shit or get off the pot kind of situation. I feel like This game has taken along longer than was intended. So The history behind this game, S game is making this This this a Chinese studio and The game was envisioned and really pre production began in twenty seventeen Development didn't really begin in earnest until twenty twenty two though. and then as they said during the showcase, Sony became involved in it in twenty twenty three. And it was show it was shown at a PlayStation showcase in may twenty twenty three. So that just says to me that the game was not it was not supposed to take three and a half years And I think if you've from that point. And I think if you just put another six months into it or whatever at this point's like, who cares, make the game better. I just I don't know, Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but I just feel like saying like we can't solve everything. It's like, while you're launching the game and complete them 't to miss that You't have to adit that everyone does that. You don't to adit You know, So anyway. I think the game looks cool. I don't know if I'll play it. It comes out at a bad time So if I do, it's going to be later, I think Dustin, are you interested in fantom blade Zero Yeah, I'm curious about it. I've always thought the trailers look really promising for it I've said before, I'm not super into non from software Souls like. I'm an annoying purist, but I'm curious about it. And you know, I'm seeing people like I'm looking at the response to the Twitter U tweet where it's like coming out in six days after Cu in two weeks before GTA sounds like financial suicide Like, I don't think that Maybe GTA players Like there's crossover because everyone plays GTA, but I don't know. I don' necessarily think it's a bad idea. So we said it on the show right someone's got to leave Roy Jenkins this thing Yeah And maybe it's to be Famade zero, although it's not close enough for it to be or Luri Jenkins. when I say that I mean wek of Who's got the balls? Who's going to do it who's got the someone's got to the ball someone's going to do one And I don't think that I don't it seems suicidal and it probably is a stupid idea, but it's like, maybe Maybe you'd be fucking crucified at a company if you convinced them to do something like that and you're g bomb Its It's a dangerous thing. It's a dangerous gamble. Maybe Maybe a big Minds eye update. Oh. Yeah, there you go Mine's e two point zero Yeah Chris are you going to play Pantom Bade zer I don't know. this is this is going to be a wait and see for me. I got to hear stuff about this because it's been in the background for a long time, but I think that vibe of tyype of game in general, I feel like I'm a little bit burned down on and I feel like I would rather play Oni Musha because I'm just more curious about that than I am about Fantom Blade. Fantomblade gives me the vibe of u Oh my God, help me out. what's that u It's like another Japanese kind of open It's like an it was like an open world game that didn't do too great. People were kind of iffy on it. W years back. Oh years back. No Oh my Godd. what the hell was it? It was like an open was like almost like assassin's Creed. you had like a glider or something. Oh, Rise of the Ronin. Rise of the R Oh, right, right, right. Oh okay, yeah. that was a it's It's given me a bit of that vibe, not not in the sense that it looks bad. It just kind of looks like I just want to know what people think about this before I Jum me do because that's a busy time. You know, there's a lot coming out just September. I would imagine byy that time in October, I'll still be working my way through that list, you know? So I don't know I bought rise of Ron and when it came out as you guys remember I played it, I was like I can't do No was that was the end of that It was cool. It's not for me. Thatame kind of came and I wonder if there'll be a sequel to it. we'll see. Phantom Blade, what's interesting, I was researching this a little bit just for some context is Phantom Blade is an existing series, which I didn't really know, I don't think And there's a so there are two games. there are three games in the Phantom Blade series. They're all Chinese. So. W o. Rainin blood is there's two games in this series called Rain Blood that I guess are connected to it. And then a few years ago there was a game called Phantom Blade executioners So it's it's some sort of universe that already exists but that we have no access to right now Interesting All right, we can move through a few of these pretty quickly I think. numberumber nine is Do Ohh by the way, so Fan P playay zero october twenty ninth PS five console exclus Do an Aakening september twenty second It's already on PC came out last year Um This is a game by Funcom, which is a Norwegian studio that does a bunch of MMO and survival stuff Age of Con in is probably their biggest. but they do a bunch of dune stuff as well. do you any I don't know. I have no opinion on this game one way or the other. I like doingune I just I'm not immersed in the world. I got to it's just I'm not going to play this Yeahe too. I like the Dune movies a lot, but the fact this is like a crafting builduilding type game Yeah, there's like I guess this adds a single player component that doesn't even exist right now Oh. I don't so I don't I don't know I don't Whatate happen? doing an awakening. And then number ten is Dynasty Warriors Th Comte Edition remastered. This was actually announced Earlier in the year or last year. Um But they put a release date on it of october first And you can preorder it now. It'll be on PlayStation five. No PS four version, which I was pleased to see This is a remake of the third Dnasty Warriors game since it's called Dyny Warriors I three. that came out on PS two Back in two thousand one, that was Omega Force and KoA before KoA and Techmo mergeed which is interesting It's a remem being remade in UA five. And of course, the series goes all the way back to nineteen ninety seven on the original Playsttation There are ten core Dynasty Warriors games, apparently. nine numbered editions plus origins. The last numbered edition was twenty eighteen, that was nine. and origins came out just last year well regarded so called mousseas. I have no interest in this, but I think this is a pretty big deal because I think this is the game kind of made dynasty Wriars into a I think For those that are curious out there and interested. that comes out October first And then number eleven is no rest for the wicked No rest for the Wicked comes from Moon Studios. And it entered early access on PC two years ago. So it's been out there for a while, but they're writing their one point zero launch And they're going to be doing so that though they don't have a specific date, they're going to be doing so in the month of October This is a PS five console exclusive as well though it is a PS five console exclusive because What's his name? Mailer, right? Thomas Mailer omise. He was saying that they can't get it working on Xbox Series S And you're not allowed. I think Baldder's Gate was the only game, right? that was allowed to break away and only be for X and not S. That's just not the thing they want. Most of the Xbox series consoles are box series S consoles. He said it'll come over. It's not likeony didn't sign with Sony or anything like that. It's just like they don't have the means to get it going on the machine right now And so so So it'll come to Xox and come to Switch two, but it's just going to take some more technical work on their end This game looks cool. I want to play it now that it's like done. We were talking a little bit about this on the stream as well. I just don't like early access games generally, notot because they're bad. It's just like, why would I want to play it like this? I'll just wait. What's the purpose of B beta testing your game, especially when I'maying for it often So one point zero is reiting for re lease this fall Are you guys interested in this game to us? are you interested in No rest for the wick I am interested, but for your the comments Baler's Gate three did release on series S. it's just the split screen mode. Oh, the split screene. Okaykay. It was the first time they let a feature drop I ft I felt you write in that comment Listening on YouTube. Delete it now But as far as U What is it called? No no rest for the the wicked. I have wanted to play this game since it was Released But I just didn't want to do the early access thing. Like it just I'll play when it's done and it looks really cool in that it's like kind of a mix of Diablo. souls like stuff and it just looks beautiful So yeah, this is one I I think I particularly want to play the co op either with Brad or maybe lock want to play because I know they're both into Diablo as well. So probablyrob won't play on PlayStation five in October But I will be playing it with some fellow LSM people. Cool Chris anything for you to say about this sn for Noris for the Wicked? No, I mean, it looks it looks beautiful. I I love I think the art direction is like really T of immaculate So that alone is Reason enough for me to be interested, but like again, this October's just busy. I might pick it up and get to it at some point, but don't know I'll get to anytime soon. Okay All right, let's get into the twelfth game. one we're all excited about, I think, Animusha wayay of the sword. This is technically Animusha five Date of september twenty fifth. There's a demo right now. Did you guys And I did You did. OkayK, cool. So we'll talk you in a minute about this. Of course, Annim Musha began early in PS two's life ccycle with Annimusha Warlords in two thousand one a game very near and dear to my heart followed by a sequel of next year in Samurai's Destiny and then Demon Siege in two thousand four which is kind of the red headed step childild of the group. We'll talk about that in a little while. and then Dawn of Dreams which was Unish of four in two thousand six, which I also think is an incredibly underrated game and we'll talk about that literally in a little while. So all of those games between two thousand one and two thousand six. twenty year gap Anim Musha We of the Sword finally arrives Very, very, very, very excited about this. donon't need to see or hear or learn. I didn't even read the press releasase because I don't want to know it Um Ver very excited. All right. So Dustin You played the demo whichich is it's obviously Capcom doing the game in an RE engine which is yes. So yeah, talk to me a little bit about this and hit the m. I did not play all of the demo I played a little bit of it just because I was curious. and it feels Pretty good. It feels like man, Capcom Everyone knows this got like cap they're capapC now. And immediately, when you put it up, you're like, Oh, yeah, this is capapcom. quality. It moves a little I don't want to say slower than I expected. I guess in my mind, this kind of sword play game. I always think of Seckio So it's a much slower paced game and that's very different. It's not like Seciro really at all other than the fact it has parry mechanics and stuff like that Early in the demo too, they don't give you a lot of like the neat abilities. It wasn't until like the latter half where I started playing where I could do like a cool double blade ability But it I'm excited for it. I've only played the first Oniusha game. I really liked it. I really want to play the other ones hopefully sometime. What am I saying? I'm about to be off for a long time. Yeah, you're not You have nothing to do. I'm have nothing to do and and the releases are about to ease up a little bit for the summer. So might be a good time for me to do that. but But yeah, I couldn't resist checking it out a little bit. and I have no doubt This is also going to be excellent Yeah, I mean I' I'm excited about this as well. I'm tempted to play the demo though I don't usually play demos just because I really want to see what it feels like if it feels like Animusha, but 'm just going be patient and I' wa Chris,'s your excitent level for A An Musha of the sw I'm really looking forward to it. I'm kind like Dustin. I only really played I only played the first one But I really liked it, I liked it way more than I thought I would. I kind of went in being like I went into playing that game as almost like like an obligation. Not necessarily to the show, but I'm just like, this is something I should know about because I do kind of I dig the vibe of it, but like I might not like this. I might bounce off of this I don't know if this is exactly my style. Eespecially I I think I actually did bounce off of it the first time I loaded it up years and years ago and it was really new when it was new Um And like the camera I was just like, I don't know if I'm feeling this right now. And then I went back to it way later When I had a better idea of what you expect And I ended up really, really liking it. I thought it was like a really solid Experience. I appreciated the brevity of it. It's not like a really long game. It's a You can beat in like four or five hours, I think Id in like no time but it was like a really It felt worth my time. likeike I liked it. Like there was like no fat on it And I was just like, oh, this's just good meat You know, but I don't have a lot of experience with Ani Musha outside of that I know I know Derek loves u third That's the that's the John John What's his eye don't? Joh Bne Ramsy? Yeah That's the one with John Bet Ramsy in it Ai Musha three actor It's Johnl, Dam. John Reno. John Reno, yeah, yeah. And that's we now know I mean, I don't want to spoil. we're going to talk about Annimusha four later is like it's kind confirm now that that is the problem. Everyone always assumed that that was the issue why we never even got a remastered trilogy they started doing because he's his they didn't know to Like I guarantee they were like, it's for version of the game and that's it And because they didn't know there were going to be these digital ecosystems or they didn't gauge re releases and stuff. so He probably wants money Yeah That makes sense But I'm looking forward to this.'m really I'm really excited. I like I liked Animusha enough to be like, yeah, I want to see how this plays in a modern context And it looks dope also Yeah, I mean, it look excellent Um I have a real soft spot for the series. I've said this a million times, obviously, as I've said many things on this show, but like For those that were there for PS two at launch and remember it, it's like Animusha was one of the first games that came that spring of two thousand one where it's like, ye Like now' It really began for me, a lot of people don't like it, but I always say it really began with the bouncer. But then it moves intoimusha. And then by the time you move a few months through, you're like, you're at metale' solid to Silon Hill two and Grand thatft Auto three So Ani Musha has this that has a I have a soft spot for it because I'm like, yeah, this was A key game and a key time and one of the first PlayStation two, really true PlayStation two games any of us ever played Um Be a lot of the launch games were f But there was a lot of trash in there, as people remember. There's like a lot of M of us many of us tryed to convince ourselves that we loved summon her You know, like it was a common thing but it ended up we ended up not liking Suminer very much So I'm excited to get these back. I want to I played Aimusha I actually that's when I was still doing video reviews when it was released on PS four in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen Um This summer I'll probably go back and play all of them One, two and four and again, we'll talk about four in a little while and we'll probably never get three. that's too bad Don it's funny because D deemon Siege which is the third one was always my least favorite Anyway But it's just kind of a bummer Dam this game is just missing. what does he want? I wonder And it's so funny to think about, Chris, you and I have talked about this about like shows that were smart enough to film in widideescreen evenven when they Seinfeld is one of those shows Um and Yeahone went didid they film in widescreen Yeah, everything's in isn't it all in HD Well, I thought that it was cut. I thought that it was u I could be right, I don't know. I think I feel like 'ause I feel like I remember there was a video. I know it's a common thing with the Simpsons where like a lot of apps stream the Simpsons in wideescreen, even though it's animated in full screen. so a lot of it gets cut out because the top and bottom gets I think there's like a famous joke in this simance that gets completely fucked by the aspect ratio. And I feel like I remember seeing something similar on Seinfeld where I was just like, oh, this looks a little zoomed in. But I think's it's on film, right Is that what it is? doesn't Uh I'm looking at Google and I'm getting two different answers. This awesome. This one says it was actually filmed in sixteen by nine. This one says it was shot in four by three I don't I can't quickly come up to with sh Anyway, that's we're getting lost in in the sauce with my sorry my well, it's my spurious example So it's my fault. but I just like the foresight of In other words, there were people that were making good contracts back then You can tell by what games are getting released and E with like, I always make fun of u The Wonder Years, which is like one of my favorite shows I love that show and how, you know, the song in the beginning is a cover of a Beatles song And then when they released it in syndication on DVD, it was a cover of the cover of a Beatles song becausecause they couldn't even license the Joe Hockker version of it or whatever. Aome And so I just think like so there are shows that and when I rewatched nine hundred two z which I did in the late twent teens when I still lived in California It was on Amazon, I think. their entire episodes have been missing because there's just so much fucking music in it that you can't because they just didn't We don't have we're never going to deal with that stuff with new things perpetual licenses and like and all that. All I, Ii mushher throughu we probably never see you. I have physically, so it's not big deal. I wonder if that'll be the most valuable oniushi game now because it literally is unplayable. unless you you know, emulate it obviously All right, number thirteen is Silent Hill toownfall. whichich looks pretty cool. september twenty fourth. this is also a PS five console exclusive. So Konami giving this the Syion Hill to remake treatment. I guess as opposed to the Silon Hill F treatment. U Silent Hill Town Fall is being made by a British team and actually they're Scottish called no code And they've made two other console games. Have you guys played these games? stories untold They're both kind of adventuresque and observation I've heard abouter that what does is observation sound familiar to me So storyies untolds twenty seventeen and it came to PS four in twenty twenty and then observations twenty nineteen. So they have more of an adventure nonviolent approach, I think, and I think this game will Oh, yeah Be like that Um So let's see here Yeah, this story's onntold game. I played a little bit of it 'use like what was cool about it is that you're sitting and I don't know whether it's a house or something. and you're playing a text based adventure game. And it'll be like there was a knock at the door. and it says on screen. and then you hear it in the meta like real life that you're playing in the game This is a neat idea I oh, that was a devolver digital Published game Oh by the way, the studio used to be called No Code, by the way, they renamed themselves They're now called sccreenburn. Just to be clear for the record. for the record. the record. It says here quote, developed by Screen Burn and co published by Annaerna Interactive and Konami. Silent Hill toownall is a full length self contained psychological horror set against the cold isolated backdrop of Scotland Simon Ordell is called back to the island of St. Emilia to put things right encountering a town lying quiet beneath a heavy fog, seemingly abandoned, but not at rest venturing deeper and driven to understand his connection to the place and its inhabitants Simon begins to discover fragments of a past rising to the surface experienence entirely in first person Simon must explore, evade and survive using a limited set of weapons and tools, including the CRTV, a pocket television used to tune into unstable signals evvasion is tense combat combat is frenetic whileile narrative driven puzzles reveal a truth that refuses to say, submererge. So it sounds a little bit. like your typical Son Hill game. If you preorder the game, you'll get forty eight hours early access, thus turnurning me. really states from septtember twenty fourth and the septtember twenty second I assume we're going to play this Chris that you're going playay Sil Hill townful Yeah, I mean, I'm curious enough about it. I got to be like I don't know Silon Hill doesn't vibe with me as much as I wish it did Im I didn't play F. I just wasn't grabbed by it Um Sin Ho two remake, I thought was quite good, but even even in how good that was I think the style of game is just kind of I like I like video games for the joy of like how good it feels to move through them And they're very ploddting and very slow, which is like it works. I don't love them as much as I want to But I'll defitely play toownfall out of just sheer curiosity. I want to know I'm more interested in townfall than I was in F for whatever reason. I don't know why. Yeah, I know Dustin liked F more than I did I wasn't I went to play through it a second time to try to go over the Platinum and at halfway through I'm like I just don't want to play this. I just really don't give a shit about this game But it's funny, the It's not it's not bad. I think it was good. And I loved the saying. and I thought it was very novel. The characters are cool. The story is quite dark Silent Hill to remake I thought was exceptional U they're just so different. The Silent Hill games have that twwin Peaks esque meta mystery thing going on that Resident evil doesn't, for instance, have. becausecause it's not trying to be that That's true. I just think like when I was playing through Simonhill two remake, I was like, this is really good, but it's so fucking dire that like It really just kind of felt miserable to play it And like I was like I don't know if I really want this out of a video game to be honest. Like I think it's I think it's cool. And I think it's S Hill two remake is exceptionally well done, especially, you know, given all the the nayaying around around Blueber at the time, which even I was Uh, like I was actually more bullish about them going into that game, but It's still like ultimately like every time I would load into S Hope two, I was like, I'm just gonna be miserable for the next several hours on purpose And it was just hard for me to do it. It was just genuinely difficult. I understand Which is your, you know, it's good for art, but like, I don't know Yeah, I get it. I mean It's also about what strikes you at a certain time. I think things just kind of hit or they don't sureure ye. I go back to things that Ive skipped sometimes where I'm like, whyy did I like this? Like what was that like death loop for you Yeah, Yeah, Dath loop was one of those ges,' like this is awesome. just was that's a great example. Yeahah. Um Yes, Sionhill so B you brought up Bueber and they't make this game obviously, but I agree with you to also totally like I was so skeptical of that team forever. and Silion Hill too was like, al right, you can do it, but this is someone else's game. And then the Chronos Maybe you do get it Maybe you really do get it because that game is fucking dope. That's such an criminally underplayed game in my opinion I have it and I remember I I booted it up and it was I kind of got the same feeling where I was like, Oh, it's very It's very This is really cool, but fuck. I'm not I don't want to feel this way right now really. Yeah, it's way darker than Sylon Hill. So don't don't get I do want to get to it eventually Dusty boy S Hill toown Fall Place it, what do you think about it being a Payation five console exclusive onomi, I guess was happy with Silon Hill too. I mean, they're defring costs, so they probably are happy with it or they get a better split or whatever Yeah. well, eventually Silent Hill two did come to Xbox. Right. I assume when I say console exclusive, these some of these are going to be time to console exc. Yeah, of course. So yeah, they must have it's one of those things where it's going to sell best on PlayStation in terms of the consoles anyway And if Sony's offering up a little bit of scratch Why not Why not do it Um I was going to say Just on z z seven, Llineia said fifty five percent of the sales were on PS five, which is incredible Yeah. Well It's great on PS five, the PS five P pro support, not that's the main factor behind those sales there, but I'm sure it helped So in terms of townfall, I am so intrigued, as I was saying earlier about that dinosaur game is that the slower, more atmospheric first person games, I'm more intrigued by them because of how Resident Evil has handled that. So Seeing Silent H first person. course reminds me of PT as well, which this game doesn't really look like They're trying to do PT and that's probably a good thing just because it's like, man, you don't You don't want to constantly be compared to Kojima in that demo, the legendary status of it So I'll be checking this out. I am balls deep in Silon Hill I haven't like I haven't played all of them. I've played all the ones that matter in terms of one, two, three remake Silent Heill F. The only one that I probably should still play is Silent Heill four, the room That one has mixed appreciation as opposed to being completely terrible the runs once after that. So I'm going check it out. And Anaperna usually makes reallyally good stuff. They they're a good stewart in terms of the games they choose to publish and so I think it's in good hands. And I'm just curious also, this will be The second game. well, I don't know if it's the second game In Silent Hill three, there's parts of it that don't take place in Silonhill. And then silent Hill F, of course, is not in Silent Heill at all And then this one from what we can tell it does not. I mean, they say it takes place on some Island, right? Yeah, it's an island of a Scotland. Island. So how it connects to the series, to me is very intriguing. They did something pretty interesting with that in Silent Hf I That won't spoil, of course, but It is connected. so I'm curious how this one will connect All right, u Sound Hill toownfall, september twenty four. early acis with a preordder, september twenty second Or in Pittsburgh, we say Tanfall. Tanfall.anfall. You's picking up that Salentil Tanfall in September Christ I wonder there's so many fucking' shootings and fucking Butler, Pennsylvania. Wow All right, one J the one just the one H We can move through these next ones because we're not going to play these next two They're going to be incredibly relevant. and we got inquiries about them. Ace comombat, eight Wings of Vve releases October First You can also play this early beginning september twenty ninth, I want to say, if you preorder it So that's that Um, we got Ace comombat looks excellent. It's just not my kind of game I I didn't someone describe it as like metal gear Like it's like metal geares in playing yeah, right. likeike it's, I don't mean the gameplay I mean the story, like it's And so Cole Smith wrote in this one is for you Chris he says a high sacred crew. While watching the state of play, the director of IC Cbat said he couldn't wait for to visit the land of Strange Real. Does some stuff sound better in Japanese but translate terrible to English or to developers in Japan think doing incredibly dumb sound names is funny What are some goofy character names and locations game tell us to se out to you? How we don't even get into that I just love that you will really clued in on that Uh bothered you It was just weird, It was just like because it doesn't roll off the tongue at all You know what I mean? Like there's certain compound words that are like or like, you know, proper nouns that video games make up that I think generally work. pretty well, but like strange Reel is like I can I'm burning calories like trying to say it. I it's like it really is like probably the most difficult hing to say phetically that you could have possibly named something. So I just thought it was fascinating that they did that U So Ace comombat eight is the first new Ace combat game since Ace comombat seven whichich launched on PS four in twenty nineteen. that was Sky' Unknown And of course, it began, the series began as a PS one lunch game. backack in nineteen ninety five as air comombat which it's cool that they they renamed it A comment. I don't know they did that with the second one, but I don't know why if it was like some sort of seererenditous IP situation, whatever, I don't know likeike Resident Evil is such a good example of that Bihaz's cool name, but resident evil's a way cooler name. It's way wankooler. Yeah And then Ace combat zero which is a two thousand six PS two release It's the Belkan War remastered This comes out october first as well, but you have to preorder Ace combat A to get it And sweet Greay Maye Jones wrote in with a very important PSA. I'm gl he wrote this because I didn't know says Boy just S gotot an Ace combat eight PSA Back for Ace comombat seven on PS four, if you preordered, you got PS four trophy ported Ace combat five from PS two It wasn't clear then that there would be no other way to buy it Al la carte assuming because of licensing Many didn't preordder with hopes of catching a sale or whatever and missed out They arere doing it again for AC eight with AC zero and on the PlayStation store. this time, it clarifies Zero will not be available after launch If you are a hardcore trophy hunter or an AC enthusiast, be sure to preorder PSA. Wild why would you do It's actually reallyascinating because couldn' you just preorder and then Like couldn't you just theoretically Reund to your pre orderer You could. Yeah. I wonder yeah, you probably could. I wonder how that would work because there're going to be two different packages probably You don't, I think the way you get refunded on PlayStation typically is like you have to never open the game And then they basically, it's much easier that way Yeah. Oh wit, but does H combat Do' the second one or the o they both launch on the same day? okay, I was supp about to say Yeah, right. but they're going be what I'm saying is they're two different packages. So theoretically, you could get them and then refund it Yeah But maybe there' hopefully the system's smart enough to not let Well, I mean, do we you want, I guess, but So crazy Yeah, good PSA. I mean, I appreciate that in a way. Well there was a game that did that, but it finally did come out. fuck, what is it There is a game that did that Oh God, I can't remember. but it's a hardcore move. I understand doing it even for years, but making it in like perpetuity, it's like, nots just It's like you did all the work ofing it You don't want to sell it? little strange All right Number sixteen is Stuntman Hollywood with a date be determined This is a revival of the old One time infograms, funny enough And then later THQ license. so it had a tortured sort of existence U There have been only two stuntpman games. There was Stupman on PS two in two thousand two that was by refflections Ill more to say about them in minute because they're an interesting studio and published by Infgrrams And then some an ignition came out on PS two and PS three in two thousand seven And that was made by Paradigm, which is the studio that actually made pilot Wink sixty four U And then I think that was our last game and that was the end of the Stuntpman series. Saber Interactive is reviving it I assume Saber has access to it through old THQ fire sle stuff. I was trying to find out who ended up buying Stuntman Afterwards because it's you can find out who bought everything from the THQ fire sale Back in twenty twelve when they were going out of business, and that's how a lot of shit was split amongst a bunch of people Um So I'm not entirely sure how that all went. But some in Hollywood is coming. I have no I have no excitement about this, but I'm sure some people will care about it Um Are you guys interested I was just fascinated to see it back because that's that's a game that I know so little about. I remember seeing it At some point, I think a friend of mine had it and I was curious about it and I saw him playing it And I thought it was kind of neat, but I was I wasn't that into carard games really. I still am not. oututside of Burnout. I think Burnout was really the only game like that that I got really, really into I dont this is a nice surprise to see something like this. I was just like, oh cool, all right Nice PS some PS two generation love in the modern day. Yeah. It was surprising because I thought it was I thought the game was actually that game clutch. Yeah that was announced but it wasnt it wasn't the game. I used to play the PS two stuntman with a friend of mine that lived up the street. He was obsessed with stuntman. The original PS twountan, you gott to get in touch with him had a really great like course creator where it was like ignoria s I don't know he's doing. I'm sorry I didn't inter. I fell out a That's good. a long time ago. It had a really great course creator where you could like set up all these different ramps and fly through like flaming hoops and stuff. we were obsessed with that mode specifically. So That is stum in Hollywood better have the create a course feature in it And then maybe I'll check it out. All right, so stuman Hollywood, date to be determined. One of the few games I was shown that had no date, no year or anything All right, seventeen was a good looking game ill Mhm. Ew from Team Klout. This is their first game comes out in twenty twenty seven Um I guess munfish is publishing it, which are the guys that did I think atomic Hearts. So there's some, I don't know exactly what's going on with that, but Um Chris, you seem to be into this What do you make of this game Yeah, man, I've been following this for a while which is why I'm a little frustrated because ly I remember when this game was announced really really, really early on and when we saw more of it. A lot of people were convinced it wasn't real because it kind of looked too good And like the animation quality In this game is actually kind of obscene Like I can't even necessarily explain it. I don't even know if I have the the vocabulary to articulate why But like there's something about it that looks like this is like the most realistic look at like there's something about it this is like, this is the most impressive animation I think I've ever seen on some of these monsters that are moving and just the way that they're moving and like the exact frame rate that they're moving to feels really like I can't, I don't even know. I'm really excited about this I think it looks gorgeous I think the premise of playing with like scale with some of these people. I remember one of the first trailers had or not one of the first trailers, but one of the more recent trailers in the last couple of years had like a Like one of their one of the enemies had like their giant head coming through a hallway and like pushing shin' like, this is cool. It reminds me a lot of u And some people might remember these, but Book series that I used to read or that like was really, really popular in our schools around that time called Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark And there's there's like a vibe of that, like that art style here in some of the creatures and some of the some of the thingsings are fighting It looks do. Like I'm really excited about it, but I'm frustrated because like it's been like, I think, six years I'm fairly certain. like I feel like I saw this game forever ago Um And so to still not have a date at this point, but to have seen it so often is just a little Odd I don't know what to make of it There's still a big fe like I've talked to some people who are still convinced it's not real. It's like a big scam. It's like was it's like lounced one year ago No, like I swear to God, I've seen this game Let me I'll do some research, but as you guys talk more about it, but Yeah, I think it looksool. I mean, it's described in the press release of Viaamatsu as quote, a realistic first person action survival horror game focused on visceral body horror, cinematic immersion. ennvironmental storytelling and intense physical gameplay interactions, and quote. And Chris, the way you described it, it we did talk about it years ago, I think because you you said the same thing then, I think, about that book series. Um So I know exactly what you're talking about that But yeah, It I don't know Iven't been follow this game at all. What do you think about it, D'tin It looks absolutely disgusting in the best way possible. I know what Chris is saying about the animation. I I keep repeating this clip from let's see forty seconds in the trailer where there's a headshot, but instead of like normal video game, his head just explodes, it actually like creates a chunk that flows out of his head The, it's It's horrible in the best way. It's amazing animation work, like genuinely, like it's Yeah And then there's this guy that's like, you know, smearing his blood all over the wall. It just looks Vile And I like it. I think it looks really cool. So But yeah, my memory of this first was from Summer gamefest. last year when I think we saw the trailer. Oh, dude, and there's this part at thirty two seconds in where there's just like one of these zombie guys just smiling as he's walking towards them you as like with a with a hatchet Fernie looks pretty cool There's I'm sorry go. I was just gonna say, this is the type of game that I'm going want to play in the living room and Holly is going to be totally out She's not into this level of disgusting debauchery. so We'll figure out. There are shit ton of comments on this. There are sixty four comments on the story on PlayStation pllog and they've closed the comments, which is interesting it's a lot of them are asking for PSVR two ports So it must be like some organized thing So here's I'm going to share with you guys just because it took me a while to find it, which is weird But like five years ago in twenty twenty one, there was like a a little gameplay trailer for it. U Oh yeah, this is really early. but this is when I first saw it And I just remember being like even back then, I was like the animation here is kind of nuts. Like and I just like it looks It just looks too There's parts of it that just look too good for me to believe Uh, and I still kind of feel that way But I'm really like if it's real, if it really, if it really delivers on this This vibe and this animation is really that good, then I'm I'm really this is one of my most anticipated games probably in the last several Sal years. It just looks so weird and it's c Yeah it does weird. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, this video is cool. I knew we talked about it too because I remember you saying that. I was going crazy because I was like am I wrong? am I craz you are but for different reasons. Yeah, very different reasons. Number eighteen. So that's twenty twenty seven, by the way. Number eighteen is control resident. Ounch is september twenty fourth. you say Chris?'or Now it's like relatively imminent compared to twenty seven. I'm just pumped about it. I havehing to say about it. I mean, I'm mega excited about it. As as people that watch the stream along with us know, I took my headphones off and didn't even look at the trailer because I'm like, I just don't need to anyore about it't Um I have to beat Allen Wake two. I was actually thinking about replaying Allen Wake one and then playing through all of Alen Wake two for the first time. I only played about halfway through it and then replaying control and getting that's a lot of remedy. I don't know if that's a good idea, but I'm definitely going to at least replay control on PS five. this summer I'm excited about it. It's obviously sequ to twenty thousand nineteen's contro and connected to Alan Wake and Quantum break in their own way. Of course, Remedy is also working on Max pain one and two with Rockstar. so They have that going to Lanky Pank wrote in and said, Hey Co and crew with C control resident locked in for lateeptember, I was quite shocked to see it listed at just fifty pounds for the base edition and fifty five pounds for the digital Dluxe Austin can you look how much it is here, please? Sure. I know Remedy have done this for previous titles, but in an era where publishers are pushing towards seventy pounds standard pricing Why are they still trying to undercut the market Resident looks wildly original and structurally risy compared to a lot of the incredibly safe seQels that are saturating the market this generation By pricing it like a budget title, do you think remedy risks downplaying the sheer quality of their talent to the casual consumer Or is this still the best move to maximize day one adoption Is it fifty dollars or sixty dollars here? So I'm seeing that the physical standard physical addedition is fifty nine doll ninet nineents. I would assume that's the same for digital Uh And then Ging this IGN article has so much shit in it. uh the Digital Dluxe edition is seventy. So that is Yeah, I was I was going to say like I thinkty dollars like fifty dollars I think would be a dope price point, but I would have I found it hard to imagine that they would have done that Um I don't actually disagree with you in a way. I think fifty dollars would be very aggressive. I think that worked for some games. I think Expedition thirty three is a great example Mhm. I think control is going to sell what it sells based on its fan base And it will obviously have wider adoption when it gets cheaper later, but I don't know that cutting ten dollars off is really gonna cut people off from the game. I also don't know that would it would obviously ten dollars over a few million units is a lot of money, but Um W it would have materially affected them? I don't know. So yeah, I felt because you're using pounds, I was like, I don't know if it's going to quite translate the same and it translates to sixty dollars a year, which is what I would have expected to game the cost I think they might even tri to go seventy, but I think that would have been maybe a little aggressive, but I would have bought it at seventy bucks. So Do you guys have anything you want to say about control resident? I have nothing left to say about this game I I'm u I'm most excited about this of anything in September. So it's day one for me I love Remedy. I think They're exceptionally strange and they just make interesting stuff. and I love the fact that this is like a Like Lanki says it iss like a really unsafe sequel relative to a lot of the stuff that we get. Like I fully expected a control two to just be more Jesse with more Tlekinesis. And in fact, I would have I would have been totally excited about that the fact that they've done something different and made it Almost completely flipped the type of game that Control is on its head quite a bit. Like there's already so many different flavorings of like how contontrol plays now with like the Allenwake tie in DLC that plays differently than Control and Um Yeah, there's just a lot So I'm really excited for control. I didn't really watch I had my headphones on. I was kind of like tuning it out as I was listening to it. I don't really remember the new trailer was, but I dont need to see more. I'm sold I love the u The trippy u psychedelic Manhattan that they've created. Yeah, it's very cool of everything busting out of that building and fucking everything up Um, Yeah, I'm looking forward to this as well By the way, Dawsin, two day early access period exclusive to PlayStation five Hm. Yeah. This is key, I think, because Ai Musha comes out the twenty fifth So if I can start playing this twenty second, twenty third, twenty fourth and at least and then maybe I can get Aimucha quicker So I'm definitely to be doing that. No doubt. Yeah. they're going to get me with that. It's Let's see yeah, the early access is ten dollars more, but that's fine We're all going to play it, I assume when the comes Yes, yes, yes. I don't know that I would if they were really much closer, I don't know that I would choose it over Animusha. be honest That's tough I'll get to them both eventually. Well, that's that's like, many, many, many, many years in anticipation for you, though. That's true. You know what I mean Like Aom is just kind of We all thought that was dead for a long time. Nber nineteen is Marathon Nightfall. That's the new season. of yeah, marathon. We don't have, I don't think anything to say about that really Um Actually I'm going to just skip this inquiry because we're just Yeah fine we don' to talk about marathon Um again, it's no disrespect to marathon. like Maron Well you guys like Marathon.' never played it, but I know the audience is kind of getting tired of hearing about it and I understand. Yeah Number twenty, RunesScape Dragon Wilds. This is a console exclusive for PS five. This is RunesScapes emergence onto console after all of these years Runescape, of course is by the British MMO team JagX. I've always hated that name. That's a bad name. just I don't know why I can't see it in any other way, but like you're saying jacgking. some way U it Rounescape launched in January of two thousand one, so it's been around for a really long time as an MMO And this particular game, Dragon Wilds entered early access on steam a year ago. So it's been out for a while on PC for people to mess around with. It's coming over. I don't give a shit comes out at some point this year Actually there is no, interestingly, there was no Playsttation blog post for this There's a playsttation blog post for almost everything. But not this So anything to say about this Runescape. didid either of you play Runescape? That seems like you w up your eyes as you guys were young Yeah, had I had a lot of friends who did play. I it just never appealed to me like it just felt like a fake video game to me when I would because I would compare it a lot to the console games that I was playing at that time, which just Visually and presentation wise, it's just like, this is not even like what do we What are we doing And also the type of game too, like the whole farming thing. like I just it didn't really That genre didn't quite appeal to me at that time. I actually think it might have later on, but I just never. I never gave a shot Yeah, I said on the stream, I think my cousin, Junior Um John was like obsessed with it. He loved it And I go like he was like he was like, what was he like seeven years younger than me or whatever. And I'd hang with him in his room and I'd like come over, you know, I was in high school or college and see what he was doing. And he was a big gamer. he was a nice kid. I remember J Cousin Jiia on Radescape again. Yeah, Cousin Juniia. Yeah. We're very Italian people Abssolute fucking crazy. That's f. It's pretty good That's pretty good. You working on that I'm trying. I'm thinking like it's hard. He changes so often. That first episode is hilarious because he sounds it's the first episode and then the rest of the season, he sounds insane. Like the first season, the first episode he sounds like a normal person and then it just becomes fuckucking like, the fucking I emot your threat. who' shaking you. AJ's playing Aim Musha again I love when they there are video games that feature like Dreamcast I think features in Saro Kart N sixty four. yeah There is to be no Mario cught. That line is crazy to me. that says that. AJ fucking sucks I hate that fucking kid. I always hated him I love that video that' him going around it's like, H we're bombing Iran Oh, man, how little things change? I know Awesome. What I love about him the most of the character is that he was into a lot of the music that I was into at that time. So when I was watching it, ike's I think there's an episode where they go to a mud vein concert or something like that and he gets all fucked up in a hotel And I'm like, yeah, I love Mud ofve. Cool, mee and AJ might have been boys. The next three games are all classics Um, guitaru man is first that's going to come out sometime in June. That was a PS two game From Koe, pre Techmo Koe, launched in two thousand one in Japan, two thousand two and PS in the West U made by a studio called Inis at the time, which is now known as Leona Interactive. I couldn't find much information about them other than that they still exist. so they're still bouncing around, but obviously, Koe Teno Koe is deep bed with Sony. so this is not a big deal for them to get. well liked rhythm game from the time. Did Either of you guys play it? I didn't recognize it right away when I saw it. I was like, oh yeah, I never owned it I've never even seen this before in my life. And then Syops, the Mind Gate conspiracy is for July That came out to on PS two originally in two thousand four And that was from the funct publisher Midway Oh. It's funny. I was looking at about like I was like, what was Midway's most notable, most, like latest most notable game? And the answer I came up with because they went again went out of business in twenty ten as a licensense or and a developer was a John Wu's strranglehold That was e And that was two thousand seven That was what I came up with That's so funny. I played that demo so much. Yeah, the box art, I remember the box art really well. It was pretty good, actually pretty good box art like the Rd and like ark I think he was like diving and then there was like a dog or something 's to be wr. And then twenty three, I promiseed we'd bring this up earlier. Annimusha for Dawn of Dreams is the August PlayStation pllus game, presumably. I presume these will also be available Alle cart. The interesting thing about Annimusha four is that I don't know if they're reasing it like they did Animusha one and two Well, Annimusha two came out as the classic, right? Animusha one was an actual port And so I assume this will be What you say us? I feel like one and two are both ports, but let me check. So I wonder what's going on with this, but obviously this August game Dauwn of Dreams in preparation for September, late September release of Animusha five Um It first came out in two thousand six I very fond memories of this game. It came out when was collge I really liked it. Please look forward to those. So people have been complaining about the lack of quality Um, Classic style games. I agree, they can do a lot better, but this is a pretty decent lineup 's so bad . twenty four is and this is the second to last game, the pen ultimate game untld Dawn to PlayStation five exclusive from Fireprite Of course, Fire Sprite is the studio Sony bought in twenty twenty one, founded in twenty twelve. They did that PSBR game, the persistence Call of the Mountain PSVR two Watch game And this is the fourth, I think by my count, the fourth until dawn game because you have Rush of blood and the impatient as well And I think Um I'm probably Aguably, this is like one of the games I'm most excited about that we saw I think I think It sounds really cool and it looks really great. I think it's just too bad that that Ballistic moon botched until Dawn one because it's just such a shame. Obviously they were building up to this. And they just really fucked and shat the bet on that. It's just to the point where it's like, oh, maybe you should just like what if what did this hit so much harder if they never even released that port No they were just like, we just had the PS four version And here's until Dwn two all these years later. I think that would have been veryciting different. Um, As I said on the stream though, Chris These kinds of games, these super massive style or quantum dream style games always look good And we had we'd run up the quarry. As a gamer I'm like this just didn't work So I'm always excited to see these. Even that game directed eighty twenty looks really good the new like all the Manamedon Dark Pictures games look great. Yeah. So it's it's easy to be skeptical And also I don't think Fire Sprite has ever made something truly great. So We'll see. Supermassive never made anything great until until dawn one So well and it's funny, Sony has shown so much patience with this IP for some reason Until Dawn one was in development forever. It was originally a Playsttation three game and it was originally a move game. as people might remember, I played that version of the game Comicon as I've described And they just gave them all this time and all this money and they came out and then told on to. It's like, yeah, you guys are really interested in this. But I think something screams to me that they'rebs I think behind the scenes, they're obsessed with the potential fusion of this into and the US media space What do you guys think? anything to say Yeah, I So I was thinking about this game because I It wass like, man, I don't feel really feel really that excited for until dawn too I was trying to figure out why. And I think it is that When I played until Dawn, firstirst one, it was such a cool experience. I played it in like two or three sittings with Holly. It' super memorable Um And then Cin, you brought up all of the other We'll say until Dawn likes in terms of the quarry. And I played the quuarry, I fucking I think it's my memory of the fact I spent seventy dollars on that game and I was so disappointed with it. I was like that was a waste of money. Normally, there's plenty of games I've bought that I didn't really like and I like whatever It's me it's a me problem This is not the case. I I didn't like the quury at all Played manan of Medon or as it was once called on the show, Man of Meden. Maden, M of Meden. Yeah, man of Maden And I didn't really like that very much either And I know there's a bunch of dark Pictures games like U There's that one that's like in Iraq or something I cant remember what it's called I haven't really liked any of these post until Dawn until dawn games, style games, we'll say So when I saw this, I was like, a It is that skepticism you were saying C where I'm like, is this actually gonna be? wasas it just kind of like a moment in time when we got until Dawn and it was We had had, you know, the choice and consequence games like it before, of course. They qualif with like heavy rain and stuff like that. but There's something about Until Dawn was special because maybe because it was a horror game that was so compelling about it. So I am I feel maybe unjustly highly skeptical. of until Dawn to. And so We shall see I'll probably still play it And will I be mad that I spend seventy dollars different team We'll find out, but I will check it out and play it Something that surprised me. I'm curious you guys think. I put on this trailer for Holly because we played on the first until Dawn together. first reaction was like, uh theirir faces look Gross Like they hit like an uncanny lum And I was like, yeah all of those games kind of dead. Like all those games do have a little bit of a weird Yeah. Ling in the faces. So Yeah. It's a bumer that they mismanaged that port It ended up being more disastrous than it seemed And it makes sense why they just didn't bring any attention to it. Like the whole the whole marketing PR thing is like, yeah, just don't even then wonder like, why not just cancel it? Yeah. specially because remember I played the remake and then I went back and platinumed the first one because I was like the first one is just so much better It's so much better mayaybe they've mayaybe they've done work to it. I mean Blistic Moonons out of business, but they did patch it a bunch It's still on my cross media bar Like I never deleted it Sobe maybe I'll play it right before and hold on to next year PlayStation five exclusive Beaking PlayStation five exclusivees the final game We have to talk about his God of war Lao Fei. which is just some name, and I'll tell you Um, this inquiry we don't need this Um twenty minutes of gameplay and quotes. I understand what they meant by that. I think that was a weird way of positioning it because it wasn't it was literally gameplay. It's in engine You don't want to use That kind of terminology, I guess But you could have just said Here's twenty uninterupted minutes the new go God of war. That's what I have to say Yeah, because a lot of it wasn't gameplay People have been pretty harsh on this Game I went and looked last night, I haven't looked today, but the where the kind of Thumbs up thumbs down on the main trailer sit, it's like three to two So it's not losing in quotes that battle, but it's very controversial For people that might not have seen and I imagine you have seen This is the newest God of War game being directed by not Cy Barog. so Corey has kind of risen and ascended to a creative directorial role which is interesting And, um Yeah, there's a to say about this game. I mean, we have a lot of letters so we'll let those kind of dictate things, but Chris what are your high level thoughts on God of warar Lao Fe, which has no date yet is assumed to be maybe coming out next year Yeah, I mean, so outut the gate again, gameplay, like you said, just not the way that I would have phrased that When people who want gameplay, they want traversal, they want combat, that kind of thing. They don't want the Literal. Um, oh, the Uninterrupted, like, okay, here's a cutscene that has like a prompt for R two or whatever that takes four minutes to play out. It was really like more like five minutes of gameplay. I would like maybe six And like fourteen of, you know cutscene. That's the vibe that I feel. like I didn't do any math or whatever, but that's how it felt watching it. It was like very slow. I don't know. I think it's I think it's going to be a good game. I'm like, I'm looking forward to it. likeike I'm more interested in it now than I was. When I heard about the pitch of a Godd of warar game about Fe, you know, like I think u It does make sense. I mean she she's alluded to a lot in that duology of Games in the Norse dology of God got of War games is like as like a really competent fighter. She gives Thor a run for his money. So like It makes sense that she would be capable in combat and it makes sense that she might be fun to play as. So and seeing that in action did help me be like, okay, yeah, I would I'm into this. And I do think the premise of the game where you're in the afterlife of the gos is interesting because it allows them to do this multiple mythology kind of mix up and mash up in a way that's a little bit more subversive than what we had initially originally thought where, Oh, it's Kratos going Kratos is going to go after the other pantheons or whatever and it's like, no, this is a way to do that without doing the obvious thing. I think that's cool We saw, I think a Tibetan god of war and I think the Egyptian Godd of war, if I'm not mistaken in that trailer. so Again, I do want to say this Knowing all of that now after having researched into it, I'm way more interested in what's going on here The issue is like I don't think I don't think it reads as obviously as what's interesting about Norse or Uh. Greek in the way that God of war the original the trilogy and the duology kind of read as like, oh, we all know Greek mythology because we know Hercules and we all know we grew up around it. We know Norse mythology. There's like a lot of like even just Marvel kind of helps with that Um, So There's less that needs to be explained in why it's cool to see those games in action. This needed a lot more explanations to understand what's interesting about it So that's kind of a problem, but u I mean, I'm looking forward to it. I promise you guys that I would come back to a point about violence I do think it's a little weird that And to be fair, the Norse games are kind of like this as well It's weird that God of War is not the most violent. game in a in a Playstation showcase of some kind Like it's very toned down than it used to be. And I don't know if that would have stuck out to me at all if Wolverine hadn't started the show. and been so violent. like it is interesting because God of War was like I would say like there's few game franchises or IPs that are identified with violence necessarily. I think maybe Grant of Thuto to some degree, even though it's a little bit more cartoony, doom And and God of war And it's just interesting that it's not really that It's really that violent anymore Yeah.'s It looks kind of like standard violence Its like, it's interesting. don't I don't know. I don't know if I like that really, but It's just kind of it is what it is. That cube, I gott to say is u I don't know I love and hate the cube. I love Yeah. I like the cube. I people We're really distracted by it, which I understand. I thought it was funny, but it was maybe adding an element that people don't want. It's a little too I don't even know how to explain it, but it feels like visually quippy It feels like character itself is the He's right behind me, isn't he? Not that he's saying that, but it's like just the fact that it's there and like sliding like sliding around in the background all weird in the middle of this like really contextually serious You're fighting a Tibetan go of war and it should be like, really like Oh kind it like just jumps in Yeah, it's like sl It's almost like a mouse is dragging him into frame and like not like I don't know how I feel about the Cube. My My suspicion is that the writers are The writing challenge of this game is getting you to care about the cube, and then the cube will die, and then you'll be like I can't believe I'm crying about a cube Like In my head, I imagine that that's the goal they're kind of going for. Make you care makeake you care about this f make you fucking care. Yeah And they probably will. Look, I I'm excited about it. I think it I think it'll be good. I think the name is bad, not necessarily because not because it's not descriptive or not because it doesn't make sense, but because I think from a naming perspective, I think you just want to have something that's a little bit more legible, a little bit more readable and a little bit more communicative. The only way you know what Lao Fe means is if you've played the duology of games extensively And this kind of feels like a good jumping on point for people who don't know God of War that well and it's kind of I don't know I think the name is a lot I think a lot of the controversy around this game is much ado about nothing to be honest. I think It really all comes down to whether or not this style of game still resonates with you. and I can kind of understand why it wouldn't for a lot of people. When God of War twenty eighteen kind of came out of the scene, this type of game was very Um eccentric in comparison, like the one shot kind of camera and the The more grandiose, kind of serious toned down, grounded story Like we saw it in the L of us, obviously and other things kind of like it, but Forgot of warar that was new and interesting, it was like a bold risky decision to do that And Ragar was less so, which is why it's kind of looked at a little bit less favorably kind of in a similar wayin to Spider Man two, where it's like not as It's not really a bad game, it's just kind of less impressive because we know this works now And it's not as new. And so to see that again in a game that in my opinion, could have been different a little bit more like I did like when I saw the one shot camera again, I'm like, I understand that this is I get that this is what you do now, but it's not really that striking anymore kind of comes across as like resting on your laurels a bit Um, That really is like a taste thing. it's whet or not people prefer these cinematic games which I to be honest, don't, like I don't I don't see myself playing God of War, God of War Ragnark or God of War Lao Fe more than maybe twice Honestly don't mind that if it's just a really good experience. And I think They've got some convincing to do with me with this fucking cube. I'll tell you that. But I think it's going to be a good game and I'm looking forward to it. I just I want to know more about it now that I know that it where it takes place and what the greater context is I just don't think this is a great way to show it for the first time. I think this would have been a good second trailer for this game. Yeah, I agree with that. They just overexposed it they didn't need to do that. And I respect the balls of doing that Right. It is also my suspicion that the game doesn't start like this that, you know, obviously like I think people like,'s like they we're like from the many.' like yeah, it's obviously It's presented that way. Right. I don't think it is though. you know, it's like, what was the thing that they did with the last W was partart two where they like were totally changing entire characters around in the trailers and stuff like people that, you know, Jesse was swapped for someone and all this other stuff. So I just think that they're kind of playing playing it up. Obviously they've been shining that part of the game to aachine and then capturing it. So It is interesting to think about it that way. The thing with the Cube Frank that pleases me is that when you guys might recall the first time I saw it away it's on the stream, I'm like that reminds me of Dungeon Drag And right. And I've been seeing that a lot. And I'm like, okay, cool, I'm not crazy. Like that's like exactly what I thought of when I saw it I'm like, okay, I am not a crazy person And so it's not it's not a reference to that, but I'm just saying people also saw that Dustin, what are your thoughts on a God of War Lao Fe Yeah, I I'm not really sure how I feel about this because I think there's some good stuff and some stuff I'm just not as interested in Like Chris was saying like, I liked both God of War twenty eighteen and the God of War Ragnark. I thought They were both really, really great games, but they're not like, o, this is my shit. is like my IP that I love So this new one I I totally get I think that in all the controversy, quote unquote controversy around this againame I understand if you are a hardcore Godd of war fan and you're like likeike I play God of war to players Kratos. He is the God of war So why I don't want to play as anyone else, Not necessarily that it's a woman I think there would be a similar type of reaction from some people if it was u L Trus Yeah, peoplee would be like, what the fuck I don't Yeah I'd be so I'd be so much more hard on it if it was aice. Oh my Godd., it's insane So I get that. I I'm indifferent to it My biggest complaint of this trailer is the Millennial Chungus writing in some of the parts I' see you call millennial Chungus. Millennial Chungus. Millennial Chungus writing where she's like, you're a cube And I was like, o no I'm talking to a fucking cuff. Yeah vibe to it. and I was like, I don't know about that Um And the cube, I was saying to you, Chris that like I I have mixed feelings on the cube because I don't like how he's presented like necessarily like not presented visually, but like the millennial writing like, Ohh, he's talking cube. whoa, you know, I don't like that But I do like that it's Jack Quid. I feel like I was telling Holly this though like he feels like a friend of a friend Be I didn't watch the boys. I don't I've not really seen anything he's in But he's in a lot of red letter media stuff, which To be clear, I'm not friends with them either. So I guess parasocial friend of a friend. R I was like, Oh yeah, Jacklay. I social friend of a friend. That fucking rules. I love that. That is crazy I know what you mean though. He's like he's like it's, it's nice to see's I was tell I was telling the guys on the Snarkigerss like he's like the best he's like one of the best Nepo babies, you know Butike I really don't, I don't I'm happy to see them in things. And I think the combat looks cool too. I like that it has a more aerial element to it while while it may not be like Devil M Cry or like the old God ofbard games I do think that having the dedicated like jump button is going to change up a lot of things in the gameplay. And the character designs of these two new gods look six, particularly this Tibetan guy. Yeah. I like him Very, very cool And I'm curious what that's going to mean for the story where it's like, okay, this is the afterlife for the gods, which I love all these comments are like, Qote, She's resting in peace now pie She's just getting completely fucked up this. I would I would be I got to say, dude If if I died And I woke up to just more of this I would be like that would ruin my entire that would ruin everything for me. It's a it's a sort of form of like reincarnation. It's like, I didn't opt in for this You know, Yeah, I don't want with the fuck. I thought I could sleep forever. Like the hell is this? It's forever sleep Yeah You have to assume in this afterlife of the gods, eventually you will be encountering the gods that Kratos killed Yeahah, you've certainly I It would They're setting themselves up for a major disappointment if they don't that you know, because like I understand why it's not necessarily I can think of a million reasons why why it wouldn't necessarily make sense But You gott to do that, dude Like, I'd rather have an interesting thing that doesn't make sense than something that's like It's kind of like when things like end realistically and it's like people are like that's predictable. It's like it's predictable because it's written And because it's just how that would happen Yeah. So like I think like you've got to have Maybe even like a lot of the Egyptians like dude, I got to say got to see what is it? is it helelios In got a war that gets his eyes So standard I don't I can'tar. It's been so long since I played any of the original God of War games, but It'd be cool to see some of those guys. and Oden, I would imagine will show up Um I don't know, man That's why I'm is it going to be the revenge plot eventually Because one thing that they pointed out, I think it was Corey in one of the interviews or something I saw where he's like, this is the next chapter of God of war So this is not God of Wars spinoff game. This is the The next game So eventually, I think Kritis will be. I mean, he's in the trailer obviously But I think it will eventually connect to where Ragnarok leaves off. I Yeahah, I would imagine. One thing though that this does kind of open up is' like I mean, Crit us could just Die and just be with his wife again, and it seems it seems fairly the same as if he just stayed alive. I don't really I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. Just knowing that like, oh, I've really missed my wife. I wish my wife wasn't dead. It' just like kill yourself Just What do you mean? Yeah. You'll see her immediately There hasn't been a touch of the Like I'm thinking about when they bring eventually show all the Greek gods and stuff. It's like no one's ever really gone Yeah it's ever really gone So yeah. H The prediction, the end of this game is going to be Fe and Kratos reunited You know, but she can't actually she can't actually fully come back Kratos needs to fully accept like they save the day or whatever, but he has to say one final goodbye. But they've been they've been setting up him and Freya though, kind of Low key in in some of the I think, uh, I don't I don't know, man. I think, um I'm exited I'm excited for. I think I think it's going to be a good g I just have a lot of questions, and I think that's a good that's a good place to be, to be honest Um, I'm excited to see like where it's going to go. I do wish it played a little bit differently though I gotta be real likeike I wish the camer was a little bit further away and I do it seems I could be mismemembering this. I don't have the trailer in front of me, but I feel like it's still got that thing where like you can only Like the camera is locked to your where you're facing. So like you can't like You can't look in one direction and run in another. Yeah, rightight. I know what you mean. Looks like it it looks like it's still that kind of like God ofar like you have to face where you're going to run. whichich yeah they could have done a little bit more with that, I think, but I think itll be good Yeah I'm not, I'm not really first of all, I think the game' is going to be great I just I'm not the guy to really ask about God of W because I've just always been soft on it. I just don't have passassion Yeah, I don't have realistic view of it. I know that You know, I just I don't, uh I don't have realistic kind not realistic. I just I'm just I've just never really been that smitt with it. I think twenty eighteen was very surprising U where I was like, this is really fucking good. And Ragnarok was teechnically great. It's just it was kind of more of the same and that's fine And I appreciate We were saying on the stream a little bit more of a verticality Um more intensive, maybe melee style. ad place way of putting it his Kratos obvious Fice M meee. but like a more fast paced frenetic combat style. like the way she was fighting reminded me a little bit of Greek. Prredos And ye, it's kind of cool I don't know if that's the intention but that's of the way I read it. I just I just think that the way they showed it was kind of strange and I think a major thing that unfortunately happened was I think it leaked And that's I was saying also and I don't mean to be be redundant for those that listen to it, but It's a shit I can see why Corey was so upset about that It is upsetting when something you've been hiding for a while and you want to have like you want to have like the initiative on it. But like they went all that time and they almost made it And I think since we knew it was going to be there or like we knew this game existed because it came from reliable sources, it's like,h That's too b I I don't often feel bad for studios for losing the initiative like that. That's just part of the game And I've leaked things So I'm not above it But from that particular instance, it's like, yeah, yeah, I can see why. That would be a little frustrating. you really didn't have a tight ship for a long time. I mean, you made all this shit. this game might be a year away So anyway, so from that perspective, I think it's a little disappointing That's really not that important. I just uh I feel like I would have just liked to see a different title I think we might have a letter about this actually. Yeah. Romescape imagy says, Hey, CDC, God of War Lao Fe looks great and fun and I love the ingenuity of doing something no one has ever done before, giving players a dedicated jump button It looks like a good time, although it seems a bit heavy on the QTEs That said, using the God of War name feels a bit like writing the coodtails of God of War while not actually being about the God of warar. Call something else, cowards. Also fun fact. if I'm not mistaken, this game brings back PlayStation's AAA male and fale protagonist over the last ten years to an even eight each Not a good thing or a bad thing, just interesting. Do you think they should have come up with a different name for the game? or does the God of War branding make sense? And what do you make of the apparent fifty fifty split between male and female leads over the? Well we'll get into that later. Um because I want to talk about the character design, but we have a letter about that, I think later on U Well I do want to say that I don't think God of war being in the name is the problem. No, I agree I think it's fine to like I don't actually don't like this idea of that like, um, Uh Like I get that Kratos is the God of warar, but God of war is is a franchise. like Kratos isn't really the Godd of war, the first game. Like it's a about him becoming the God of war. You know, like so you play most of the first game as' not a God of war So like I don't think it's necessarily a problem that like there's a gotta war game where you don't play as cratos. I think that's cool. I think that's like a wise thing to do Generally, they should have done this earlier to be honest. becausecause it speaks to the versatility of the franchise and not being able to not being locked to one character. It's kind of like when Halo did ODST and Reach. and just like you don't need the master chief to make a good halo game. Like you don't need that. And that's good because it allows for flexibility and it allows for exploration of the world. It would be really dumb If somebody was like It should be called ODST a halo story. You know what I mean? Like it's it'sumb stuff. like it's, it's fine that it's got of war. I just think literally the name Lau Fe because it is so specific I just I don't know It just feels kind of Like it I literally think it's all phonetics and aesthetics. I don't think it looks good on a poster. I don't think it looks good on a box. I don't think it sounds good to say Like I just think there's like it is all marketing speak to be honest. But like I just think there's better ways to to do this or to name it. It should be gota war something or something out of war or like, you know what I mean? But like not Laufe Not because it's not She's not the main character, because like there's a ofames thatn't named after their main characters. Yeah.'s not for that reason. It's not especially It's about GTA Nico Beelic, you know? Bad name. Yeah, it is a bad name. like the question is whether it will matter and I don't know I gener It's like, I don't even know how like I had I had to watch the interview to even know exactly how to say it. I think I had an idea. I was like, all right, I need to like figure this out. I just, I agree with you Well, there are two things I love the idea of doing spinoffs or new gays of God of something. Obviously that can't be this game because it's a literal continuation of that story. but I was kind of hoping for like a god of whatever. I don't know but arue? P peopleople were saying like trick like trick or, you know, trick stuff or like tricksters and like, uh likeike more of that that part of Um, mythology, as opposed to the violence That's fine. So you can't have that I understand that. And then The God of W Colman That's fine if it's a different name. I think I would have gone with something like a name Colon a God of War story or something like that But maybe that's just too much. I would love to know like what they bandied around because they obviously had probably a lot of ideas of what to call it. and to land on that name, I find both literal because it's about her, but also peculiar because it's just It's just not good Again, I don't know if it matters I wrote. Um, yeah D't to be too hard on the game though, Dan accelerated. Is it hello gentleman, I want to offer he says Hello gentleman singular by the way. I wonder who's talking He says, I want to offer an important perspective from a huge Godd of wararf fan A lot of the resentment towards this game is coming from people that wanted to see Santa Monica do something truly different I hope one day that does happen, but selfishly I wouldn't want that wouldn't want that if it meant leaving the God of War universe behind. There are still so many unanswered questions in the North saga, and now that we know that there is an afterlife for the gods, there is potential for many more interesting stories, including reunions with Kratos's past enemies and exposure to various other mythologies I know some of you are eye rolling at these ideas already, but Sony Santa Monica has a proven track record of delivering thoughtful and coherent experiences Lao Fei is not a reaction to some kind of catos fatigue. In fact Corey confirmed in yesterday's interview that it was already in mind while twenty eighteen was being developed Finally Colonin, you often talk about how we are in a golden age of video games and I couldn't agree more There is there is no shortage of unique and interesting games out there already The people that want something other than God of War, I simply say go play any game in existence outside of God of War releases. Seriously, only one studio in the entire games industry is delivering on this beloved franchise every few years. Is more God of were really that offensive It's an interesting comment And I think you speak for a lot of people and I think you're right in the main I simply don't want Sony stududios to fold in as these like like the three for three coalition style thing. It's like with what Xbox does. It's like, no, like, don't you want to do something else? Like that's the thing that' I guess I'm confused about and maybe I just underestimate how much people at these studios love these products And maybe that's easy to overlook sometimes and it's easy for us to say, like move on already and do something new. But like as a creative Especially a creative at a ApleA studio with memes and money and time. It's like, dude. You're going give me five years and I have to come up with something brand new and awesome, okay I would have loveved to do that So I just don't get it outside of the commercial reality of making video games, which is an important component of the situation. So I think you're absolutely right. is more God of warar offensive? No it's what I say about uncharted. Like you could probably do go of war every five or six years forever Um I just think you have to be careful And do think people are being really harsh on this game But I don't think they've done it any favors from multiple perspectives. and they just need to be better about presenting things at Sony from the first and second party and anticipating issues Becauseuse how can you not anticipate that you have to be careful with this Um So yeah, again, I don't think you're wrong And I just I'll just reiterate what I say over and over and over again is that games come with opportunity costs now. And so a studio sincking itself into this shit, it means they're gone They're basically dead to the rest of the world outside of this series, which is sreat for them It's what Marvel is doing the Insomniac I don't know that I want that. I I've been desperate to see what Santa Monica could do for years and they and They almost got one game off the ground. in the PS four era, in the late PS three or early PS four era, that was cancellled, as we all know. Damn Is it always just going to be God of war? I just think that's a shame Not because God of W' is bad, not because you don't deserve more God of War, not because more God of W war won't sell Because it means that like we won't ever see what these guys can do otherwise And I bet you they' to the brim with ideas That's my, that's my stance on them. And then finally Dev T ten says Hey, CDC, with Corey Barlog becoming the head of creative for Santa Monica and no longer directing games Do you think we're in for another decade of the new God of War style Will we finally get the sci fi idea made? Where do you guys think the studio will go? This is an important part of it is that he this isn't his game. And I think we all thought and assumed I did that he was directing this game. he's not directing it And a woman named Ariel Lawrence is directing the game free freeing him up to be the creative director of the studio at large. Now I said this and I've said this before is that it's not uncommon for AAA games to have multiple directors You can have a creative director is usually at the top, but you would have a game director You have technical director and art director and so on and so forth. Not uncommon at. He is I think that Ariel Lawrence and they say she is the game director So she is in some way subservient to the creative. Um, but it seems like he has a more overarching thing now. People don't know exactly how to read into it Is it a is it a true like head of studio I'm going to passively produce? Or is it a Neil Druckmann style? I'm the head of the studio, but actually this is my game And there's a second game that I'm producing more what Corey might be doing We don't really know So it's entirely possible that he has his own game. I don't know if we have, I should look this up Monica Studio Headcount twenty twenty four of two hundred and fifty, like I don't think so You know, especially in other words, I don't think they're making more than one game They They're branded as the team behind the Goda War remakes too, but I would be Woefully unsurprised They're not making it and it's going to be like some flying wild hog crystal dynamic situation. Or what I don't know if you guys remember when it when The order was shown It was heavily branded as a Santaonice game, so confusing the shit out of people Oh yeah. And to the point where they removed that stuff later because and I remember even saying that I'm like, so why is your name on this? It's like, we're producing.'s, what are you talking about? It's not your game so I think that kind of with only two hundred and fifty people, let's even say they scale up to three or three hundred fifty. That might be enough to do the collection very slowly and one triple play game at a time. So I don't know that Coryy' making anything on his own just reading the tea leaves. And if he is They're either operating incredibly lean O that that game is just getting going. So we'll see what happens Anything left to say about this title before we move on We're done So All right, so I promise this something a little bit out of order and a little bit unorthodox today. is we're going now go directly to the listener inquiries that we would usually end the show with because there are six questions, comments, concerns, thought and ideas all about the state of play. So kind of more overarching things. I thought we would kind of kill two birds with one stone. otherwise we'd be here for about ten hours Um So let's begin with Stuart who wrote into to us? R remember you can write to us on patreon patreonot com slash.media for early F free access to the ability to submit your inquiries on the threads in the news feeed each week Threads for sacer symb go live on Wednes and deleted Thurs Start says Hey Kyen, Chris and Dustin. I walked away from the state of play feeling incredibly underwhelmed The God of War and Wolverine reveals felt de void of clear gameplay hooks favoring style over substance God of War was introduced with the promise of over twenty minutes of gameplay, but what we got was a bloated mix of cuts sccenes, slow walking and talking segments and heavily automated combat littered with pressR two prompts Similarly, while Wolverine initially looked exciting, by the end of the demo, I felt like I had just witnessed just a lot of mindless button mashing to accompany the incredibly detailed murdering animations Am I being overly cynical or is there something to this It's possible Sony just wants to focus on the flashiness for the big reveals and there might be more under the surface. But I for one, left the state of play less interested in both of those games than I was before it started I will pull my junk out of Fae's gelatinous box and listen now. Did you really have to say that Lord I have mercy. All right, so let's here our overall thoughts on the state of playay Dustin Yeah, overall state of play thoughts was You' asking us to give it a letter grade And I was, you know, from on a personal standpoint of what I'm interested in It was a se And the literal definition of a C being average. completely average I mentioned it with Wolverine. Not really an IP I care about, but it looks like a fun game. I'll play it. I like fun games even if I don't care about the IP, right God of war U La Fe, Lau Fe Uh, same kind of the same thing where I've liked the new God of W games U But this one looks like it'll probably just be more fun terms of like the real shit that I really like This state of play didn't really have any of that And there was a lot of like updates. you know, like the the Oni Musha releasedate reveal I'm happy about that. That's probably the game that was like most of my shit, but it's It wasn't suuper exciting. because like I knew this game was coming out. this year. It's just a matter of In fact, I'm kind of tired of seeing. at this point at these different events So For me it was A If I had to be objective about it It would probably be you know, more of a B There was nothing crazy. and something else that we pointed out on the stream is that Imagine the amount of surprise if we had not known the concept of this new God of warar game. Right, It would have been Totally different. I think it maybe would have had the same response now to it But in terms of the wow factor It would have been completely different So we have to keep that in mind as well. And I think too, in terms of like thinking about SlayStation first party Some of the lead upps of these like Wolverine we've heard about forever, so it's just inherently less exciting for a lot of us where it's like, okay, I get it You know, seeing the gameplay was cool, but it's like, I'm kind of just in the point where I'm waiting for this to come out It's another Marvel game from Insomniac. It is very different, but it's not super exciting So and what we were talking about before where a lot of these studios have are just kind of becoming Okay, where this is what we make Insomniac is the Marvel team. with a few exceptions in there and Santa Monica is now the God of W team And that's like when we were talking about inssomnac, it's like, man, I really hope their next game isn't a ghost of I don't want their to be tied up in this one Oh Soccer p Yes orr socerunch sorry Socer punch to be just like locked up in that And so with games taking as long as they do to make does feel like first party is inherently a little more Boring it doesn't necessarily mean not good, but just a little more boring. That's why like Inner galactic. That is probably The most exciting first party project right now because it's like there's so much unknown about it We know that it's from Naughty Dog. so it's going to be like top tier productroion quality certainly Some of the rumors of what we've heard of what the game will be like sound really cool and appealing to my interest And it's just like I think I maybe unfairly give an edge to new things. ten just because at this point in my life playing games for nearly thirty two years, it's like, K of getting the same stuff a lot And now that's just only increased with the amount of time it takes to make games. U So yeah, like I said, personally see maybe on an objective scale talking about each individual game Maybe it be. What do you think what do you think, Chris overall thoughts on the state of playay Yeah, I mean, I would give it probably like a C plus really. L I think again, I'm kind of with us andwhere. Like I just I think I just favor new things and I'm excited to see new things and really The new things we got in this state of play where you could Rayman Lgends retold, which is a remake of something that exists already. So that's kind of already kind of weird. Banch are the Chef, Komuri Lost Wild Um I guess he Stuntman. And then Sman was certainly the most surprising reveal. Sunman is the most surprising re Yeahah, which is ny A problem. You know what I mean? Like it's not no hate to stop man, but like I mean, that that literally was the most surprising thing here I guess until dawn is two is the is the other thing that we didn't know and God of warar, which is like these that's I mean, that's cool Again, I think It's tricky grading these showcases because like when when I think about I'm grading a showcase, I think about it like I'm grading the like how like the entire show. Like I'm grading how it felt to watch it from beginning to end. And I think it started off strong, it lost steam. and then when it got back going again, it was just a little confusing And I think You know, I'm excited for God of War. I I'm looking forward to a lot of these things. I think Bancho the Chef looks cool. I think control I'm excited about, but we've seen a lot of it. I has been I've been looking forward to Iil for a long time. So that's not new to me Um it was just kind of like, yeah, okay, it was solid. I've definitely experienced state of plays that we werere way better than this Like by orders of magnitude So like I kind of have to leave it with like a yeah, it's like a strong C C plus b minus kind of territory We're like Everything seems good, but nothing's that surprising and what is there was showcased kind of clumsily. Like the God of War again Gotaar, I think is going to be good. I think parts that need to to hit, I think hit, but I think it's it was a clumsy way to show it I think it should have been again, this should have been maybe like trailer two. And even Kumori, I think that should have been the second trailer too. L There's not a lot of And I guess it's a taste thing, but like to me, there's not a lot of consideration on how these things feel like to see for the first time So that's really where I'll leave it Fough. , by the way, you can hear the dogs barking can you There it a little bit but it's not bad. Okay I'm sorry. Um, I think during the show, I said I wouldd give it a B plus. and I think that's Probably about right. I mean, I think maybe maybe moderating it to a B I understand your guys's biases towards newer things. It's exciting Yeah, I think that we are getting in a position though with games where you got to clear the plate First So many things are announced and it takes fucking years. Like look at Elder Scroll six, like what a joke Why did you even say anything You know, Yeah. It's been it's been almost a decade And that game's nowhere near being done So That's an extreme version of it, of course But I just or it's I mean, the Xbox is littered with that shit to be honest with you. I mean, like fable and Yeah, I don't know I understand why they did that because they felt like they felt they needed to at some point sure, they were You know, Throttled It's not so much the case anymore that they're getting throttled the first party it's just that they're now a third party publisher, basically. so it's just too late So they can take a different stance. and I understand that, but I don't want more games on top of games that haven't even come out on top of games that haven't come out. L at some point it just becomes overwhelming and it's actually it feels like steam being wet out of the pot in a way which to me makes me feel more in control in a weird way, it's like, all right, Things we know about but have release dates are really getting imminent now And I just look at games and I'm like, if you just look at the games, I can't speak for other people, but there's a lot of shit I want to play in here. L In order, Wolverine, Rayan Legends Retold, Banch of the Chef, Kamuri, Tombaider, Legacy of Atlantis, The Lost Wild. I probably won't play Fantom Blade No rest for the wicked Animusha Silent Hill Iill control resident Probably two of the classics that are coming out until Dawn and God of War, That's a lot of games I mean, it's hard for me to be like, well, that's that's song's all right You know, like I think ye I think what's here is a bee and that's kind of thing. It's like, are we grading what's there? Are we grading the show Right. What's there What's there, I think is like a a BB minus? I think it's like fair to say that. I think the showcase though, I think was like a little Yeah, ye. twenty twenty twenty minutes of uninterrupted gameplay that you brand as gameplay that is ultimately six minutes of gameplay with a lot of like cutscene and world buildilding and you know what I mean? Like that's really clumsy work. Like and it's an unforced error because like you said, they could have just said here's twenty uninterrupted minutes of the next of an upcoming project They didn't have to say gameplay. I don't know why they chose to. I feel like any anybody could have told them. Yeah. That's like, I don't know if you want to I it this way. Yeah, fair enough. evenven if it's accurate Because thats just read that's a different word online. than it is in, you know, practice And from a presentational standpoint, I'll say, I think they do a pretty good job. L it's brisk. Cool graphics packages and Chions. Lkable personality showing up Like they get the little things right I think it really will always be a matter of taste on the products available or products being shown and how they line up with your own tastes. and then what you're looking for comparable to brand new things versus like confirmations and releaseates and stuff because sometimes A lot of people like, won't you be excited may Meagan will be a summer, summermers I don't know it's like, w't you to?,' I don't want to see So like I'm not even that excited to see it again to begin with. When I see it again, I I want to know like when you're going to release it. And u So it almost things almost come in three steps It's like announcement, release Date launch. And then the little things in the tranches that kind of fit between those steps And you have toore all those things. So sometimes you get a thing like Marathon, nightfall. Step three orr you get and toold on to, step one Um Yeah, now I get that. Yeah. So if that's the way I look at it. So I think I I think I can set a lot a B. a B plus might be a little aggressive But I can set onght to be. Okay Joe Doo Mac wrote in and said, with all the recent discussions about PlayStation stududios stepping away from established IP to create something new Press, we need to examine our expectations more honestly Yes it's disappointing to see yet another god of warar or Ghost of Sushima style game, but that disappointment reveals something deeper How much are we as players willing to accept the brutal economics and creative difficulty of true originality in modern ApleA gaming? Creating successful new IP for notothing is extraordinarily hard. it demands not just fresh ideas in an era where thousands of games flood the market every year, but also massive financial risk years of development and the very real chance of failure It's understandable why studios retreat to proven franchises But this raises uncomfortable questions Are we witnessing the natural maturation of a medum where safe bets increasingly dominate because the stakes are too high O have we as consumers helped create a system that punishes experimentation and rewards familiarity When every major release must justify a two hundred plus million dollar budget How much room is actually left for genuine creative courage? It's very well said And I think that this is a tough balance to strike Because part of me feels like this isn't my problem You know, but then it becomes it literally becomes your problem because it's it's what's available to you and it's what yours the studios you care about are Sent to do We'll say this, Dustin. We've said this before and I will reiterate There is no reason with rare exception that any studio in the AAA space should be going into a situation assuming there will make one game That to me is wasteful Um doesn't take into account. complexities and money necessary to create something today It's not the same as used to be It's just not. I know we we Hammer that point over and over again, but it just it's just radically different. I bring up Final Fantasy seven sometimes is like people were like astonished by how expensive and how long that game took ' we're talking about a game that was like twenty five million dollars or something. Um That took like three or four years and To me, I'm like, yeah, but I'm the the consumer And there are certain needs that I have that are not being fulfilled. and it's true what we said earlier about like you have your games. What are you worried about like what the God of War team is doing? I'm like, well, I like the God of War team And I think there's just a tension with everyone about like what we expect and what we want out of these people And that ultimately does become our own problem. There's no doubt about that I don't want anyone to think that I'm like being like, yeah, just make one offs. What I'm saying is like no one to stop That those are two wildly different things. And remember that if you don't make investments into the future, they won't exist And then you very much will find yourself in an Xbox like situation where there are still dependent on the same three fucking franchises that they were dependent on. in the Xbox generation. The original x generation, all of them Except for gears came early in the nextaster sixth genereration But healo, obviously, two on Xox F first one came out on Xbox It's not a good thing to be dependent on them It's good to revisit them. and call back to them and rely on them But like to be like that's still the halo box, it's like, It would be like calling the PlayStation five the uncharted box or the fucking crash Bandicot box We are going to get trapped at some point I'm telling you There's not enough investment happening internally, it seems like on new things And intergalactic is great You know, that's a great investment to make. aybe it's concern only I have, What do you think,ustin This one's tough because I know that like Sony Sony First Party has like set this standard for themselves that it's like, okay, when you think about SlayStation First Party, you think of big expensive tripleA Games And as technology is getting more and more crazy, it's taking more money to make the games at this quality standard, And so yeah, u The writen is totally right that it's like you're making att this point, you are making inssane risks in terms of like not only just money spent but time Um, and It's something that backs that up to, like look at Soros right now New IP doing so well not really necessarily creating a big splash So it doesn't always work out. Now whether it's because it's a new IP peopleople are associating it with a game maybe they didn't like in returnal. I don't know. I don't know why SRos isn't doing so well by At the same time, I think about, I'm like, man, but like look at last year's game of the year whether or not it was your game of the year certainly was the game that was talked about the most last year in Expedition thirty three It's like, okay, well, People weren't drawn to that game because of the insane production value, whichich don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful game. What The art direction of that game is what really carried it It's like, okay, well, maybe this idea that Everything needs to be like we need to have the most realistic rope physics, like the last of us two part two in every game. We need to set this insane standard. It's like maybe Certainly, I want those games. and I think teams like Naughty Dog are always going to do that. That's their thing Maybe it's not necessary to make the games at this level. Maybe it is for PlayStation. I don't know But they did it to themselves. That's why I sayil over and over and they did it to themselves They did it to themselves and I just wonder like I know it's not easy to be like, well just make a game like Expedition thirty three. It's like certainly it's not It's not that easy, but I think at the same time if it's like you let Creatives, be creative And Obviously not without a chain to some degree. but it's like You can make amazing things and not have it cost as much as it does So I don't know if PlaySation's going to be able to do that 'cause like you said, Colin, they have kind of set this standard that you that people come to expect. and so it does make them lean on on what What the guarantees So it's going to be very interesting to see bringing up again intergalactic where it's like, there's a new IP from Ny Dog, somewat of a I guess from an optic standpoint, a damaged Naughty dog at this point. And whether they deserve that or not is going to be up to each individual person. Certainly. I don't know why they would deserve it, but yeah, but yeah, of course. Certainly there's they're swiming upstream Yeah, it's true. I will say it's interesting before thr it over to Chris It's not to say that having a There are publishing arms in first parties that are known for things. Right? Like Nintendo is known for fun novelty Yay sports Deep. realalistic simulation of sports for decades, right? Like really well respected and so on and so forth. They're all challenges. In fact, I would argue that Nintendo's challengees is harder than Sony's Because like with money and time, Sony can easily overcome visual Fidelity challenge the finding the fun challenge and doing something unique and like, so it's like They're not as trapped as they seem. It's just like they They wanted that was the that was the first time they tried to differentiate themselves And uh began with uncharted And specifically with uncharted too, that's where it all start And and they've been the thing about that's going to be tough with naughty dog is they'll always be able to meet the bar and exceed it. It's just going to take longer And it's going to require more money And because those things go in tandem with each other. So I just wanted to be clear that I think a lot of these guys, a lot of these companies have challenges and unique things they're known for So when you just again, put themselves in this box it's too because they weren't always in the box if you look at the things that they used to launch. But Chris, what do you think about This issue here of kind of accepting the commercial realities of Sony's stance with games I mean, I get it. I mean, I understand the reliance on establish IP. like it makes sense to me. especially in in an era where just the audience doesn't seem to know what they want Really? or or if they do And they're loud about it They're lying You know, like it's kind of I don't know, man. it seems like people People are always asking for like, I want like visually distinct things that don't look like unreal Eged or Fortnite And I'm tired of like overly monetized Yeah you know, microtransactions in my video games and I'm tired of paying seventy dollars for full price for full price releases andir. All right, well Here's a forty dollars visually distinct PVP game in Marathon that has no micro Like the a common complaint about that game during season one was that the store didn't have anything interesting in it It was like, well, isn't You know what? Like, so it's like So if you can't win doing what people want or going what people with what people say they want Then what the fuck are you left to do other than bet on what obviously commercially works? You're going to keep, I mean, I don't know what to tell you, man. Like you're going to keep getting your unreal engine shit. And you're you're going to keep it's what you're going to keep getting because what you keep buying So like I don't Like I get it. I understand I understand the commercial reality. likeike I totally get it I'm just disappointed that's the case. Yeah, me too. Beause I think there's so much more to be explored and at varied price points and I think to some level there's too much corrupting power in not even in just games leadership or whatever, but like also in just The community spaces too that just kind of like make it miserable u to kind of follow and just like no one knows. Another thing too is like, dude, like what do you how do you even as somebody who researches like what consumers want, right? If you want to rely on something other than spending habits, if you want to like go to the consumer directly, how do you navigate that in a world where like this the front page of the internet is on Twitter and Twitter is specifically like Um rewards You know what I mean? Like fake opinions for the sake of like outrage, you know what I mean? Like I don't really know how you navigate that space other than simply looking at the books and being like, this sells do more of this We've kind of put ourselves in this in this position as a community and I don't think us like individually because I think, you know We all have strong feelings about that kind of thing one way or the other, but like There's no real reliable place to go. Yeah other than the financials and Yeah, those are that's almost the most scientific thing Yeah. you when you filter out the noise I think you're absolutely right What's disappointing to me is that like I I'm a heavy user. I buy a lot of games. So like if and you can't expect everyone to behave like you, but if everyone did buy like me, not even the games I buy but bought the number of games I bought, then we would have such a wider variety of AAA games. but then again, we don't really need more games. So it kind of falls into that trap too. I don't know. It is what it is, truly. I think they just need to be mindful of of the time imbalance and how it's going to be hard to turn the ship and you might You might find yourself ultimately heavily relying on the same shit over and over again with no choice. And that's going to be a bad place for PlaySation to B, especially As IP becomes more and more important. All right. David Jaffe, the muffy muffin man wrote in and said Hello, sacred superiors. Do does PlaySations first party feel stagnant at this point? This is going somewhere else I promise In the past, they used to be held in high regard as top producers of cinematic narrative and third person action games As we have seen the industry progress to make more of these types of games, it feels as though Sony has remained the same and their formula has gotten old Do you yearn for different types of games in the Sony first party ecosystem are just new IP with the same formula? This is a great question. Because I have to be clear I have to be I want to be clear. I want to be honest is that generally speaking, I actually just want new IP with the same formula I think I think there are a lot of people that want them to be like, we'll make cheap games and we'll make A games and we willll make double A games I' like no I don't think that's what you should be doing. I think it's a horrible idea I think what should you should be doing is making more different AAA games And I explained this to you guys earlier is that I would even support a system wherein they like stripped down. someome of their first party to fewer like to ten teams, like the ten core teams staff them all and everyone go so you have a situation where like two of them go every five years Um Now that would be very hard to manage in an artistic realm. likeike people have to restart, things Don't get creream lt I mean it would be, you, youn't be able do it mathematically I don't want soon many to be messing around with different sorts of things because I don't think there's anything to be gained from those places Even if they had a hit, like imagine Sony made vampire survivors or vampire crawlers, whatever Right? It's like So what? It sold millions and millions of copies. It doesn'tatter It doesn't move the needle you need the things that like this idea that we should go back. Now there should be allowanceces made You have a journey For instance Yeah, that game companies games generally. We're all awesome. I loved flour And Flow is even a cool game. It's very quain. I never played Cloud. That was first game but was' on Playsttation Um You will make allowances for those or you do your VR initiative or whatever, but like I don't mind little investments, but I don't want them from first party. That game company was not a first party studio. and it's the same thing I say about multiplayer stuff. Like Sony's first party should be like we make expensive cinematic Thd or first person action adventure games. We our second party is dedicated to everything else So that's what I want to see where you in this doesn't? Yeah, I I think there's a mix between like what I would want and the actual realities because U we bring up like Japan studios that everyone's like, Oh, why they shutter Japan studios? Like no one bought Japan would you did you buy rain No, but I bought Last Guardian. Yeah, you did. you did. And I bought everybody's golf. so I did buy some of them and I really lik them. So do I did like the kind of quirky Japanese games that Sony would do. but I understand that there's the movement to Uh, you know, these big ApleA games and specifically like the cinematic He writes cinematic narrative, third person action games. and I do feel like there is a little bit of a like a lack of creativity in that they all kind of have like the same camera angle and the same kind of feel to them the AAA squeeze and you need to go through something But I I think at the same time, they're known for. at this point. It's kind of with the b they've made at this point do you think Chris I think things used to feel more distinct for a number of other reasons as well on top of this. I understand that there's a bigger reliance on the same IPs than there used to be. and also that the development times between these games have been extended to the point where like a duology feels like a trilogy and then some in time spent waiting and both playing in some cases. but I do feel like The variety that we're missing from years past really comes down to the science of engines, I think. I think There are just fewer engines being used now. I think originally like Games would just be programmed Like I'm pretty sure And I could be wrong about this, but I'm fairly certain I remember reading something about how like the N sixty four didn't really like Back then there weren't really engines. You just programmed the game. Like everything was like from programming baseline. There was like no like established kind of thing Um And I think that's what we felt back in the day was that everybody had a different way of like replacing the camera andaking and everybody had a different way of making it feel to walk like what it feels like to walk around or what it feel what an input feels like or what like this You know what I mean? Like there's these different things that were completely bespoke for every damn near every studio and now that's a lot more truncated. We have you know, this engine for this, we have this engine for that and not to say that studios haven't always stuck with the same engine or whatever, but like, There used to be a broader distinctiveness. And I think that's gone away. and I do I do lament that. I am kind of sad that so many third person games feel God Like like Souls games now Like that's kind of like the default. And to the point where like when a game comes out that doesn't feel that way, it's like it's really refreshing and cool Um do feel Like It's kind of is what they're good at So like it's hard for me to say, like o, just do something that you're just fucking that you have no idea how to do, you know That works sometimes sometometimes you have a gorilla that figures it out that goes from like a first person first person shooter to a third person action game and it's like actually successful I think that's awes whenever that happens. But it's not every team can do that Um I don't really know I feel about it to be honest. I think u I feel so many different ways it I do want more variety, I do want more distinctiveness. And I definitely don't want the same formula different IPs. I actually do want different formulas, but like I understand that's risk And who's to say that your new formula won't get clip chimped. online and fucking, you know, completely irreparably fucked. Like it's almost better to be cringe in a way that's establish as successful. You know what I mean? Like Be all sorts of people can come out and be like this gu goty a world look fucking cringe or whatever it's like, right well you bought last time. So I give a fuck. Yeah. you're saying on Twitter. so you'll just buy it again. Right Exactly. I mean it's hard to differentiate signal from noise. We kind of got into this a little bit, but I want to reiterate this. I changed my name so you'd read it wrote in and said, Hey boys, I know we clown on Xbox for naming studios after their IP, three for three coalition etceter. But isn't Sony starting to do a similar thing now Obviously without the explicit naming conventions, but now we have the car stududio, the Horizon machine, Marvel Studios and hell they should just call it Sony Sony of War Studio to round it out As much as I think the state of playay was nice, are we seriously looking at just Marvel plus sequels anymore even within inter Galactic get naughty Dogs pace, willll get what three in inter Galactic games now between between now and twenty forty two As we keep saying, the games are blending together and I fear that these teams won't know how to make anything new at some point. gettingetting some to make an FPS will be tough because you spent fifteen years on of your career making a couple of third person action gam mayaybe I'm off base on that all the best. We did touch on most of this, so I won't linger on this too much other than to say I fear this too. I don't want this for Sony I just think it's such a creative dead end. It's it Look at three, four, three I mean, or like Halo Studios now or whatever. It's like They couldn't do anything And they were just stuck with this fucking IP instead of being able to be like,, hey, do you want to try to make your own thing inststead of like us building off of this other company's thing from years ago Maybe you can make your own thing And I like no, you're the Halo studio. And it's like, damn, dude, like that's too bad. Maybe you could have come up with something cool, Eespecially because Halo is not that relevant anymore You might have come up with the new halo. That's the thing. I just feel like you play over these dice rolls And some of them are going to blow up in your face and be awful But I just feel like you're missing the secret. of why this works Well, Halo worked because of the bungee team. Right, which is why they ended up making Destiny and Destiny was like, you know beleaguered as it was. It's a's very successful game that a lot of people tried to emulate and failed. Anthem and like the list is fucking actually kind of endless So like That was really the next halo. It was likeike culturally and significant wise, like it's destiny's huge But It's just also mega exppensive to maintain The I don't know. I'm kind of conflicted on this because I do think it's cool to have like, if you're going to make these games forever Um, and there's Obviously a goal to do that. I do think it actually is smart to have a place where fans and people who are excited to work on that IP can go because it allows you to retain talent to a degree. L imagine all the people who like I think about Gorilla, right? Like, let's say like you were a big fan of, you were like, oh you knew how to make FSs. you were excited make FS and then you got hired a gorilla just before the greamlit horiz. Right And now you're working on it's like, what the well This isn't what I came here to do at all you know, I I wanted to work on u, you know kills him or whatever. U I do think there's value in having like a beacon of light, like almost like like a fire that draws the moths where like, oh, I have I'm really passionate about this IP. I have I have great ideas. I think we can make this work and then they all funnel to it. The issue is, The studios You have a studio that's built on this one IP that is presumably only built around that IP. so you can attract talent who wants to work on that IP, but then you'd like, all right, now everybody's going to be a contract. Well then who giv us shit Who cares? at that point You know? Like it kind of doesn't really make sense at all because they're just firing these people that Like every like what like twelve to twelve to fourteen. I can't remember what the time period was for like the contract deadlines for how long you could work But I knew a lot of people who worked on Halo As in contractor capacity, they're like yeah, they just cut me. I was like, all right, cool. greatreat Um So I think it's could be cool. and I think might be a decent idea if you have a franchise that you know is going to live in perpetuity, but ultimately Like The halo is what held three and forty three back, I think I like Halo a lot. I think Halo Infinite was great. I think parts of the other games were great too. But Halo F is a great science fiction first person shooter don't know if it's a hal g Halo four is kind of in a similar boat where I'm just like, these like these people didn't really want to make halo. And I actually think it's like a famous quote that they actually hiire people for the original two hundred forty three. I don't know if you've heard this But I've looked around I've researched this enough to know that it's it is actually true. Like we hire people who didn't even Like Halo, we hired people who hated it They said this And it was like because like they wanted to figure out what didn't work for other people. right you care about the people you don't have yet In this like wildly successful IP that like is the reason that your flagship console, that like your home base even exists in the first place, you want to get the people who don't care Awesome art real, real smart. But they're really competent like as far as like like making a really fun and playable game, like they can do it But like they can't really make things in that IP. So like it kind of negates the entire purpose And I don't really know what to make of that Um There is an argument to be made that Sony is kind of in that position too just without the names though. Like if we if we are If we are going into this like oh marble It really does it really is a bumber that insignniac is just Marble now. Yeah I mean, it is what and it's it's tough You know, like, All right It's tough you're hang It's just tough to know what's what man. And it's hard it's hard to argue with the realities of the of And the consequences of the money spent and the risk taken. I get it. I it It's easy to be in armair. Yeah. exactlyly was say, it's easy on the outside to be like this is what you should do But I feel like I have decent decent feel for some of this stuff and it's like I think I can make better decisions I do I believe that one hundred percent. Broadly. Broadly I think like there's definitely something things that we like we wouldn't I' tell you one thing I wouldn't put fucking blueo point in charge of of God of Warife service. I would have never done that I would have shutot another team before I shot them Just be h. Um, anyyway An anything you want to add to us him before move on I think you guys covered it Let's get into the fucking meat meat and potatoes, huh? Oh boy. Zilw wrote in and said, Hello sacred fellows. I don't know if it's just me. But do PlaySation stududios intentionally make female characters less attractive than the actors they're based on Because honestly, a lot of the women in recent first party games have a strange inflated uncanny valley look that I find distracting Fayy and God of War, Deborah Anne Wall is a beautiful woman. so why does Feaye look noticeably less appealing than the actress she's based on We've had games doing near perfect actor scans for years, so I don't really buy the technical limitation argument Silence looked almost identical to Lance Reddic R IP And Gojima's productions using Desima have both males and females almost perfect in Deh Stranding. yet AI somehow ends up looking like a mix between Hanah Hokstra. I don't know who that is. and a Chucky doll. It is even possible is it even possible to discuss this topic when on one side You have corporations trying to manufacture culture and on the other contontent creators whose entire business model is everything is woke let's be angry about What's actually going on with Playsttation' female character models? Why does Sony hate Goners so much I believe that there is something to this that's weird I my wife thinks so Like she says it It's like, why are you doing this? Now I want to be clear. I don't mind unattractive or whatever women being in games doesn't bother me personally What's weird is that you have this model and you go through all this trouble and you have the balls on their face and all the rest and you Sony invest more than anyone in the ship. You do it better than anyone And then and then so it's like, yeah, you have whoever. And then it doesn't look like the person And it doesn't make sense Like, why are you doing that? And And we we talked about MJ right? Inspire of Man too. It's like why'd you do? And then you talk about this, It's like, yes, the actress Debraahne Wall is a beautiful wom And you look at hering this now phase in a state. She's not going to be all made up and yassified She just died. now she's awake awake. like I understand all of that. Yeah. But I think he makes an interesting point too in that There really is no pleasing anyone Because like when I look at a game like we were talking earlier about Tomb Raider, it's like, they nailed this But no one's giving them props for that. It's only about the things that are wrong. And if the only way to kind of circument that therefore and like neutralize things and so no one says anything as opposed to even complimenting you is just make everyone beautiful I feel like that's a cop out too. You know, I just, I just don't understand why like just get a fucking homely actress and put her in the fucking set I don't understand that's to me, that's weird And I think it's worth noticing that and they do do it. to a lot of characters And I don't think they only do it to women, by the way So that's that's what that's kind of what I wanted to lean into here, which is just like in all of the games That you mention that people mention like the female character is kind of looking not great I happen to be of the opinion and this is, I guess subjectively I feel like everybody in those games looks scuffed to me Like I I don't I'm always I've been pretty sensitive to MCap for a long time. I kind of hate it because I feel like I can always see it. I feel like I feel like in every game I can see the people in the studio wearing the moocaap, I can see it through their character models. I can see them moving their hands more than they normally would because they want to get more expressive animations out. It's just something about it, right Um So I genuinely feel like Like Spiderman is a great example, actually. I feel like nobody in Spider Man looks good at all And by the way, I think it extends to Wolverine too. I think Wolverine looks a little weird under that mask. I think he looks a little Like what do he like this he looks strange I think Gene Gray looks strange. And I think the people that he fights look strange. They look uncanny and like they like clay people almost. Um But I don't know. I think Deborahne Wall where, I think she looks actually pretty good. I think they did a pretty good job recreating her. I just think she's in a state. She's I get, like you said she's dead and in like a dirty, dingy fucking Foreign land and it's always side it's always a sideid shot of like a character in a weird state screaming and the headshot You know what I mean? Right? Like I don't know. I don't think it's necessarily untrue that peopleeople just don't put a lot of effort into these things or more or don't put as much effort as they should because Kojima nails it I think. I really think like everybody in deeath Straining and deeath Straining to look exactly like it's kind of ike it's amazing. that they captured people like directly. And that's what he was saying. I think it's a good point. It's like, well he can do it so, what's the excuse for horizon Yeah I think it's I think it's a meticulous attention to detail versus people who are a little bit more like, we got to get this shit you know, we gota We got to figure this out. we got to make we got to make this work. Like I feel like Horizon But too fair Horizon I really don't agree with the Aloy thing to be honest with you Like I think Alooy is one of the better looking characters. Like she looks better in Zero Dawn, but I agree with you that she doesn't look as bad as they say in the second one Yeah. I think he looks they look she looks just as good as Lance Redic does and Lance Redic looks a little uncanny to me too here. So like I don't know. Why can they always nail Debah Anne Wilson whatever hell that guy chick's name is so you know' exactly Deborah Wilon Debor Wilson. Yeahah and it's So somebody tell somebody was telling you that you could you can do like an evolution of technology slate just by comparing various Deborah Deborah Wilson standans. Throughout the years. She loves the games industry, man. she must be making a nice amount of money Yeah, I I I want to bring this into a Look, I agree. I think there's what really is the bummer about this is that you cant have a normal conversation about this without people being weird about it. Yeah. That's That's the most annoying part about it.. But I do And I tweeted about this a little bit where like I kind of am bummed out that we're even doing this in the first place Like that we're that we've defaulted to scanning real people into video games, because I actually find it more immersion breaking and more distracting than if they had built a character from the ground up and just had it voiced by somebody that I might recognize Like mass effffect when like Ke David voices Captain Anderson, like, but it's not literally Keith David Like I like that. And you would think like from a from an acting perspective, you would like that also Because all the time I think about like, if you're a voice actor, right Or like if you're like a performance capture person You know how they have those pictures sometimes where it's like it's them surrounded by all their characters. What does that look like now if it's just a bunch of you? Yeah, that's a good point. You know what I mean? Like when I was growing up it was like it was like, you see this one guy and it was just like this array of characters that look completely different. And it's just like Debor Wilson surrounded by like I patched Dbah Wilson or like, you know, sad Dubbahil. It's Yeah, I don't know. I think I get why because it's ultimately way easier to scan a person in and capture that face than it is to Bu somebody from scratch, I get that But I do kind of miss that. I do miss when we had distinctively completely fictional characters in our video games that were just that happen to be connected to people who might have some status and You might recognize like, oh, that's Ke David or oh that's that's Yirie Loenthal don't know I do kind of miss that don't know ' anything. this is what it is. Do you want to add anything to this Yeah. Well, you're right that it is a fucking landmine too discuss this at all and it's very annoying. I think in the case of Fe that because a lot of people are bringing like this is the picture of Deborah Anne Wolf that's like her on the fucking red carpet somewhere Yeah versus how she looks at in the game U And Cin, you pointed out what I was thinking as well, it's like she was dead just just right before that But even then I think that there's there's a different creative direction that I'm sure that You brought up Kojima where it's like Kojima wants these actors to look like they're acting in a video game Like he wants it to look like Norman Reidis, exactly. Yeah whereant Santa Monica's approach is like, no, we're going to use this person as baseline but we want them to look how we would Imagine this character in this world and this person is the baseline Um So maybe that's not as as beautiful as they are dolled up on the red carpet. maybe. But I just, I don't that much. I think that the one that is weird, of course, is Marary Jane where it's like, what happened She's the most egregenious example, but like but then you play that game and you're like, Miles looks fucinking so weird too. I hate Peter. I hate the way Peter Parker looks in that game too. Like I really, I don't like what they did do his did new face Yeah new face. What happened? face Yeah Miles in the first game looks way worse Kason says something about him that like I cannot repeat here because he's insane. but like But like he looks better in the second game, but like insomniac in general, just kind of, in my opinion, struggles with that more than any first party studio I don't know what it is. Maybe' not that important to them to be fair, like it's who gives a shit, I guess. The game' sold ridiculous. So like maybe it doesn't really matter, I notice Yeah, it I notice I just think it we've all said it now. it's like it is a minefield. I'm kind of tired of talking about it, but there is There is something to it that's weird. I don't know. I try not to read into I don't want to be too conspiratorial about it The MJ stuff really brought up a lot of conspiracies because I remember she ended up looking like one of the writers of the game, which I thought was fucking hysterical Mike straight up says that's when Mike and I talk, when then comes she' like that wasn't act. Like like that's aincidence're like, she's's, it's All right, finally More from Tom's Laws Dad wrote in and said What's up my silly succulent sacred boys? Can the gaming industry give the month of September a ar restst I understand developers want to get out of the way of GTA six, but why not spread the field a little and plant their flags August or October. I'm afraid there are going to be too many losers whereas with a little more breathing space, some of these games could find more success. These the games launching in September abbss of now. Blood of theawnalker, september third Wolfverreine, septemberteh, trails in the sky S second Chapter september seventeenth, control residident, september twenty fourth. Son Hill toownfall, septtember twenty fourth and Annie Mushae of the S sword, septtember twenty fifth These aren't even all the games I could find, but I'm wary of example fatigue. Many of these games I'm interested in and would otherwise play, but I'm going to miss on them, in particular, I'm worried about control resonance I'm always rooting for remedy to do well, but this is just another is this just another self inflicted wound Why not push it back a few weeks? into earlier, mid October where there isn't any stiff competition at the moment besides Fandom Blade Zero andall of Duty the tail end of the month This exact same crowding happened last year or too in games like Kronos and Hellaz us or the big losers. When will these developers learn is a major reason. What happened No, no, you go. Did I say something bad? No I'm always worried now I'm always worried that I said something that I should't have said. You're on it. No, no, no sorry., you would be too, Jesus. These people are always fucking getting something to get by the goalie over here, you know? Oh yeah. I know Um There's a major reason why I think they're crowding in this area. What do you think that is Din? Other than granting the pho I was going to say Granttha Auto and call d the end of the it's a fiscal year Or is it a fiscal quarter? ye Um So I think that that has something to do with it. L they don't need They don't necessarily need those sales in the fourth calendar quarter where the holiday season is because they'll get it from holiday sales and other things. Some people want to be in that space, but it's become, I mean, for two generations more than that, it's been very hard to be in that space because You have the mass of AA's releasing there, the Assassin's Creed games, the call duty games, battlefield, whatever. So people stay out of there and I think they try to So I think that has something to do with it Um However, I agree with you, like I'm a little surprised August might be a little difficult because they might not be ready I'm surprised that like I think you're even safe going into the first week of November, depending on what game you are. if you'd remove that fiscal pressure. Again, the Leer Roy Jenkins conversation aside, I don't think any of these games should be the ones that do it I don't know if you're giving it too much room The problem is that you just don't know what everyone else is doing and part of me also is like why don't these guys you know't to like, It's like a cartel like they're colluding or whatever. But it's like, why not just kind of say in some way or through like intermediaries? Like the first party is like, this is where we're looking to release this game this game in this game Like it's not really It's more advantageous for you to know and lock things in. But I also think once the data is settled on, it's very difficult to move it Um You have to refund, depending on what platform you're on, you'd have to refund pres sales Um You have to deal with all your marketing materials that are probably already done. and a bunch of other things. So I think these dates kind of just stick and then you're like, all right, is what we're going to. The funny thing is that I suspect that Even trails, it will be the sales will be way lower because it's a more niche game, but all those games are going to do fine Um And I would imagine games like Wolverine are going ill Like, I think Wolverine will sell millions of coffes easy in the first couple of months. So I wonder which of those games is the most afraid, and I would probably imagine it's either Silent Hill or contontrol Um Capcom's got a lot of heft right now. Sound Hill is locked to PS five and PC, so it can't get those extra Xbox sales I don't think Wolverine has anything to fear. And I think Blood of Dawn Walker comes out early enough where it has nothing to fear either. And and added the list of games,'s the one I'm most excited about. So what are you guys thinking about September? Should they move around and Do you guys have you guys? like, I'm going to play every one of the games you listed Except for I'll play trails of the sky's second chapter probably in the future sometimes But but the five other ones. So yeah, there are choices for some people to make though just based on money or time. Yeah My thing about this writ in is he's like, when will they ever learn And I I'm like, they're just not like a a video game publisher Grand Council where they all meet and decide where when they're going. Like some of these Release dates are decided in a bubble. Maybe some of them talk to each other, but I just think that they're kind of like, well, Here's all the information we know about current release dates. and Hopefully this is a good time to do it. and if they are truly scared, then they can push it out or in some cases, even move it up a little bit Now, of course, youit like first party stuff, like they know their own internal releaseestates for different things, but I so yeah, PlayStation might be at the most advantageous position where maybe they know what some of their partners when they're releasing, but think they're kind of just I don't say the operating blind, but I'm sure like do you think that Konami knew that control resident was they also were going to release on that day. when they decide the date Probably not. Yeah I doubt it. Yeah. So what what are they supposed to do?' it's other than change that, you know, play their cards out and then try to change things around later So And yeah, like you mentioned, the fiscal year pllus Call of Duty and GTA, it makes sense that there's a crowding around this time. but I think certainly it could affect day one sales of some of these things, but You're releasing into like right at the beginning of fall leading into the holiday season. And so These games are still going to sell. you know, maybe there is one loser in there but They also, a lot of these games appeal to different people. like the trarails fans are going to buy that game no matter what Yeah when it comes out It's also a sequel too from the first game. So trails trarails. I said that with a little resentment. Yeah, ye had a little trails fans. Yeah Um Yeah, don't know, man. I don't actually don't think it's that big of a deal to be honest with you. Like I think including Blood of Donwalker there ats september third, like that's basically August. likeike I don't know. that's that's enough of distance where I think that's fine Um I do think september twenty fourth and twenty fifth like being that stacked That's the more interesting thing Although to me really I don't know, control is the that I' most excited for really here. There's no hope of any game getting to me before that after that or likeilent Hill or Annimusha, like I'll get on Animmucha eventually. I'm not really that worried about control. Like remedy games typically have like long tails and also contontrol iss really the only sci fi game here Like it's like a very distinct, like, I guess wolverines technically. You could argue, I suppose. Um I think these are different vibes You know A lot of these like I don't see trails Subbsuming Control's audience and or contontrol's audience, subsuming Silent Hill evenven on a musha, I feel like these's reallyistct Fer bases really It's a lot of games at once, but I think For the enthusiasts like us, it is a lot of games B. I assume a normal person will see one or two of these ne it is a good time the crowdedness, especially for a person with a normal schedule and doesn't play professionally like we do and play a shit ton of games,s like it's a great time for you to save money since you'll probably be able to get most of this stuff discounted fairly quickly. Um Oh yeah which will be nice for you All right, that's all we have for that. So now we're going to jump back into the news from here. All right, we're cutting in we're here. It's just Justin and I today We're recording now Friday evening after the game summer Games Fest Jeff's birthday Bash Is always your good birthday B. I don't know I'm so tred. I don't know Chris? Chris is ill Um, he, uh fell ill and he His voice is all fucked up I guess right now and hopefully we'll have him back for the Xbox showcase on Sunday, although maybe you've already heard that or not, depending on where you are right now. Okay So we just watched the showcase, like I said, the summer Games Fest. I count fifty three games We all mention all of them, but I think we can blaze through half of them at least pretty much with saying nothing, especially because a lot of them, not a lot of them there are many games that are not even coming to PlayStation. So things we can skip and some of these things are commercials, but I just felt like we would be thorough But before we do that U For the state of play stuff, people would already know we already went into all of that and then we use all the questions and inquiries to go into what we thought about that or whatever. So we won't spend too much time on that towards the end. instead, socially because we're so fatigued U we will At the top now, just kind of give you a little bit of information about what we thought about The Dreamond Dustin, let's begin with you before I get into my thoughts. What did you think of the summer Games Festal? What would you give it? What is your letter grade here I would give it B plus, maybe even A All things considered. E plus to A not be plused to A minus Oh yeah, A minus, I guess. Yeah I was thinking like I really don't. have anything to really complain about if we're thinking in the context of what this show should be. If you're comparing it to an E three of old, PlayStation E three. press conference or something like that then yeah, you're going not like it as much, but I think we need to judge it for what it is And it certainly was probably one of Jeff Keey's best shows in terms of like starting off really strong. with Rinable Veronica Following up with some cophe And of course, like the middle of the show, there's going to be some less exciting stuff, but there was some still exciting stuff in the middle of the show as well I never felt weighed down by like Anime Gcha games or anything like that are weighed down by advertisement. That's a good point actually. There was none of that like slop really. Yeah. And like the one anime slop announcement was Aangegelion. Or was it was it Evangelion in weathering waves? No. No, no that was in Cyberpunk. That Evangelion was in Sonic, I thought. In Sonic, right? Wh which is even weirder And you know, I think that that's actually like probably pretty cool for people to like that game. So And yeah, of course the ending was amazing So I thought it was overall a great showcase. I didn't Normally when we do this including the game awwards too, is that Usually about that. point threeree fourth point. I'm like Let's go. Let's let's go. Like what are we doing in here And I honestly didn't feel that when we were watching it, it felt like it kept a nice brisk pace So I really don't have any reason to give it a full blown A now that I'm, you know Full blown about it right Don'. Full blown eight full place So Yeah, it's not that I loved every single announce of it, but like I said, thinking about what the show is meant to be I think there was probably something for everybody in there Yeah, I agree. I think it was a really strong showing as well somethingomet for pretty much everyone, plenty of stuff for me. I actually was a little softer on it when we left. I'm like, okay, maybe B minus for me. But then when I was going through collecting press materials like I found press releases for almost everything. I put the in the chat by the way the document. just I just use the state tolay document and read did it so you can click on anything you want But I found a press releases for pretty much everything. and as I was going through everything, I was like, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. oh yeah, this. Oh yeah, that And so there was like a lot more there than met the eye. And I think I think a B plus A minus level for it, I think is appropriate Maybe more B plus for me than A minus. so kind of maybe a little better than the state of play But I will say, I thought Jeff did a good job. I thought it was a very reactive. re in the sense that it was, like you said not weighed down by so many ads. It's not the pomp and circumstance and the money and everything of the game awwards. It's The second biggest show they do. The third biggest will be like the smallest of the three would be the Games Com one So that's to be expected I was saying on the stream and I think it's a fairly good point that Though I think you could have theoretically cut this down like ninety minutes or maybe a hundred minutes max If you keep in mind like the television three to one ratio of like programming to commercials, you need to have, if you have ninety minutes of something, you're going to need to have thirty minutes of commercials. and I thought And I even put in our document what I assume were the ads. And I feel like it was fairly obvious that way too. I understand it's like a band making a set list Right likeike right You want to open with a banger And then you want to like capture people and keep them captured often just going right into the second song. Th then you talk to the audience a little bit, right Th things slow down a little bit, you get into some deep cuts. maybe an acoustic set, you know, an acoustic piece or whatever. And then you start revving back up and It's just and that happens all in two hours The games are shown so quickly that you end up with like fifty games and then you're and then you realize like, wow, like the the mixture of these games wasn't quite as deliberately done as possible. Like when I look at It's like Resident evil code Veronica in the cuphead sequel into the Mighty cuphead adventure in Alien Isolation two in the Jen Atlas in the blood message in the Stranger Th Heaven. It's like You didn't really need to open like that. Because in the middle, you have like kind of a bunch of nonsense And it would be better to spread things out and have a bang every ten or fifteen minutes I think So what do I know? He's the producer of these popular and famous shows, but that would be my only insight, like my only criticism of it is I just think you could have spread some of this stuff out And then it wouldn't have felt maybe as long for some people But two hours it was good. It was a brisk two hours. I thought it was well done. I thought he did a great job It was cool to see some differentiffere personalities show up and it doesn't, it's not weighed down by the games Game Awards kind of No one really knows what they wanted to be kind of situation. Do you want to be like the BaFs? Do you want to be like the Eemies? Do you want to be like Like E three, no one really knows. So That's my overall thought Dusta, let's go through each game. And we can linger on whatever we want and we could skip over a bunch of these We begin with resident evil Veronica So this is the long rumored remake of two thousand's Resident Evil Code Veronica And it willll be coming the PlayStation five in twenty twenty seven. So it'll be ready next year. so it's fairly deep into development They don't have very much to say. In fact, when I was looking at Capcom's press materials for their games, they use the same press release for all their games. So They literally just have like a paragraph for each game. So they'll obviously have much more to say And of course, there's going to be the resident evil expansion for Requiem probably that comes out in between, so they probably want to lean on that a little more first All they say here is Qote, Resident Evil Veronica will draw players into a desperate escape field with horror and madness through the isolated zombie fieed Rockfort Island Developed on Capcom's proprietary RR engine, the game will introduce modern gameplay with a chilling level of realism. designed to push the rival hor to the heights to, I'm sorry to the height, to the new heights There lot more to say soon obviously about this, they say. Not much more to go on than that I haven't played Cod Veronica in a very long time So I don't remember it very well, but what I was saying during the intro or during the yeah, like the section they show in the beginning, during the game shows intro was I don't really remember this and I wonder if they're going to lean more into like reimagining piece of it. It's not quite as sacrosanct as resesident evvil two or reson evil four. And even with resesident evil four, they did change things I'm So I wonder. I wonder what they're going to do I'm very excited it. Capcom's got all of my faith. So I'm never going to go until it's proven otherwise, I'm not going into a Capcom g I'm assuming anything, but the best. What do you think of Residvil Veronica I've never played Code Veronica. But as you were saying, this is CapCom and The rate in which they're able to release resesident evvil games and then be so good is crazy, honestly. And I think we're talking a little bit on the stream. like the only one that is questionable is resinable three Um that a lot of content and maybe felt like it was a little Uh A a little rushed. Yeah, I agree. So I would assume that they've learned from that and know that they they don't want to do something like that again So I yeah, I don't know a lot about Code Veronica, but it doesn't matter. Like I am pumpfins. I will play anythingything resident evil I'm getting to the point where I'll play anything from Capcom Uh, like even I know I'm not into fighting games, but every time I see Street fighter, I'm like, man, this looks cool. I am super pumped and So This was announced the summer Game Fest Rident Evil Requiem was announced at summer Game Thatests last year So I would assume this is going to come out one year after Requium approximately. like a springtime kind of late winter That'll be awesome That would be nice Really cool. they have a good cadence going. I just hope they can manage all these high end AAA games at the same time. I mean, they're're being I mean, obviously different teams are working on these games but they're, you know, theyre have to produce them and manage them. and it's a lot. And. And I think I think they're doing a really good job so far. So very, very excited, huge opener. And I thought it was requiem expansion to open. I was surprised to see this. I don't know why I was surprised to see it. I guess it is time, like you said All right, numbers two and three are both cuphead games We saw a really cute video from Studio MDHR introducing two things. like I said, onene is a new cuphead game, hand drawn This will be like the mainline cup headad two, I guess and They say here on their website, quote, First up, we're delighted to officially confirm that the work has begun on a brand new hand animated cuphead video game Our talented team is hard at work on this ambitious project, which will takeuphead and pals on a fresh exciting journe There are so many things about this project that have energized and in true studio MDHR fashion, we are pushing ourselves to continue improving on our craft in all areas Development is still in the early stages, but rest assured that we'll have A lot more to share when the time is right and quote A little disappointing to hear that it's early just because I don' I don't presume to know what they're doing and it's really none of my business. I mean, they're incredibly wealthy studio now. they can kind of take their time and and do what they want. but I They have like the show that they, I don't know what's going on with that. And then they did the expansion for Cuphead, But it's easy to forget. like Cuphead came out in twenty seventeen. It's almost nine years old And so It is a little surprising that you're early on, but I don't know, whatever. And what they're doing is very difficult. So I imagine It's going to take a while and I wonder who they're to work with or if they'll plish themselves I imagine they'll publish it themselves The more exciting thing and you could talk about both these things at the same time, Dustin is, They know something more tangible and this could be what they're working on, although I would be surprised if they themselves were doing this a game called Mighty Cuphead Adventure They say quote, a smaller so here it is. a smaller team here at the studio has been working in secret on something completely different. A project that is a true love letter to the era that inspired us to make video games in the first place, a game called Mighty Cupet Adventure This is a true A bit action platformer with arcade quality graphics, amazing sound and thirty two dazzling colors It' pretty dope. I was excited to read this. and they say With Mighty Cupet addventure, we aren't taking inspiration from the classics of the nineteen eighties, we're building the game with the technology of that era That's right, the project is programmed in classic assembly language and designed with the exact same specifications of the Sega Master System homeome gaming console in mind This means that while the game will absolutely be compatible with modern consoles and personal computers, players who want a true blast from the past We'll able to experience it on a phys cartridge for the Sega Master System Home gaming console This is not just a retro game. It's a game built from the ground up with all the unique limitations of a nineteen eighties video game studio. And quote, that is incredibly hard to do. They're not the only people doing it, but that is very difficult. And Thats fucking awesome It's surprising that they picked master systemstem, but over any S butut, I don't know what their personal history with games was and how they came to this place. So I think it looks beautiful. I am super amped about that game And it'll obviously be much more imminent. They don't date anything. N' not much more to say, What do you think Yeah. so in terms of first of all, the cuphead sequel, I agree, I am a little disappointed that it's like we're in early work because I believe DLC for cuphead came out in twenty twenty two. I think I just had it up on the screen a minute ago, but I turned it off. So I it's disappointing, but I'm okay with it just because Clearly they are like masters of the craft now at this point in terms of doing everything in hand drawn animation that notot easy So them taking their time figure out what they want to do, as you said, there very wealthy at this point So I'm willing to wait for it In terms of mightighty Cuphead adventure, I love it in this write upp, they say it was programmed in classic assembly language I am not a programmer. I don't know almost anything about programming, but that tickled something in my brain because there's a lot of people when you watch retrospectives about roller coaster tycoon They always talk about how Chris Sawyer developed it in assembly. and it was one guy. And then hearing about assembly, this is like insanely difficult that people were able to that he was able to make Rollericrast Tycoon assembly and So maybe some programmers out there can let us know about the difficulty of doing it in assembly, but it felt like a flex them saying that. So I think it's so cool that you can play it on a second master system. Yeah, like that. I wish I had one But I wonder if I mean maybe Sega Master systems will go up. People want to play this game the authentic way From that little tiny snippet they showed, it looks Really cute Really charming, totally unexpected as well for something for them to do. So Ver excited. And they I got a text during the stream You can buy your mighty cuphead adventure merch Right now. Wow So I don't know if that means It's more eminent U because yeah, and I am I am a it. They already got shirts, hats and all kinds of stuff. So they're capitalizing on the moment. goodood for them. Yeah, I mean, do it. do it Looks pretty cool neat idea. Yeah, I'm excited about that. We'll keep a close eye on that my mighty cupheaded ententure. and of course cuphead two or whatever it is called Number four is alien isolation two. This was confirmed to be in development some time ago, but has been now officially confirmed They write in the press release. The next chapter in Alien Isolation series, Alien Isolation two will bring players face to face once more with Cinema's deadliest killer Alien xenomorph With a brand new setting, story and protagonist players will embrace a whole new adventure while experiencing the same deadly tension which established the original game as the ultimate survival horror experience. On a remote storm ravaged colony world players will endure the elements as they navigate the planets surface and explore the claustrophobic confines of the Whalland and Yutano outpost of Kurasaki station It's a new hunting ground for the alien, forcing players to improvise and develop new tools, techniques and tactics to survive the deadly game of cat and mouse. It's being developed by Creative Assembly, which developed, of course, the first one there a Sega owned studio. They've been in the Sega family for twenty something years, I thinkow twenties at this point And they're best known for their total W series So this is obviously something totally different. In fact, I was looking at their games and Between alien isolation, which came out fall twenty fourteen and alien Isolation two, they've only made gone back and made strategy games and all of them except for one is total war with the exception of Hil Wars two. So Very much outside their wheelhouse and yet that game is beloved and very exciting to see. So I still have not played alien isolation. I have to do that at some point Did you experience it? A you excited about this? Do you like alien? I don't even know I have only seen the first alien and then I saw Prometheus and the follow up after that. So I'm not like a mega alien fan. Sad news though, Colin. if you do want to play alien isolation, of course, you can play it on your PS five via backwards compatibility. Right loocked thirty frames per second. Stinky. It might not do. So it would have nice to get a little PS five port snuck in there, but maybe time. there's time, time yet. Yeah So I seriously know so little about this game. I mean, I've heard people talk about it so highly and that I think a lot of it is like more about stealth and sneaking than any kind of combat if I remember correctly, but On our stream which we had surprise pork Poncho. This was a game that he was suuper excited for. And I know people love it. So I should check it out at some point. but Not on Playsttation, sorry. can't do it. canan't do it, man. Can't do it man Yes. Um Fifth up is Jen Atlas which is you Wait is new game. It didn't have a name until now. of course, his new studio used to be Teiko via Studio Japan. Now it's genen Design. They at first announced the organization of the studio and that they signed with And I was I looked this up to remember this This is was like right the beginning of COVID They announced that they were going to work with Epic. So this game has been in development for a long time. And then you'll remember that it was first revealed at Game Words twenty twenty four as project something. I don't remember what it was, Project roobot or something weird like that And now it has a final game of a name of Jen Atlas Um Kind of cool. I mean I was saying this on the stream and it's not I understand I'm in the minority on his games and I understand that they're beloved. It's not any disrespect. I just know that they're not for me. and no matter Like I like Shadow of the Classes, but I really liked the remake of Shadow of the glasses. I didn't like the original one. I bought Eco when it came out because there were was very few games on PlayStation twoo at the time and I hated it You know, I hated that game So and the last guardian I never I never played it because I kn it wasn't me but I know you're a much biger fan so this is much more up your alley. th I'll say It looks much more gamey. It like much more they can do that unfortunately for this game won't be on steam So going to kind of hurt it, I think, but Y Waade has got his fans and the fan base is largely on Playstation five. so I think that'll be just fine. What do you think I think this looks great. I notoriously of course don't really like egco, but I do like S the Closses, though to be fair, you mentioned, I've only played the remake. I just never played the original. I tried the original. It did not I just couldn't do it, man. Like I just couldn't I can handle it. U and then Last Guardian, I think is an amazing game with problems, but a game that really stuck with me And so the trailer for this just looks sick giant robots. fighting and like you said, a little more gamey, like there's some person shooter elements to it that you can see in the trailer. So that's a little Interesting to see it be a little more gamy in that way, but I am pretty excited for this and There's no release window, right? No.t So nothing yet So it's going to be another next year. It's been a long time Yeah, but about L Guardian. That's true. I just I would hope that Epic is kind of keeping him in line a little bit maybe not us You give you give a creative like that enough rope and they might hang themselves with it. It happens But it looks really cool I'm open minded to playing it by the way I just need to know much more Next up is a Net Ease published game out of a Chinese studio called Blood Message And it is, let's what's the studio? twenty four Etainment stududio. Linan, I guess in horrible Chinese is what it's actually called But it's twenty four Entertertainment The name is the game is blood message being published by. Neties, it's their first ApleA game out of that particular studio The press releaseays, quote, Boodessage introduces a forgotten odyssey of loyalty and survival where players join Dun Wang's uprising I assume that's something from history taking control of a namelessenger and his young son in the immersive third person action adventure Caught in the crossfire of a righteous uprising and driven by loyalty to both family and country players will embark on a perilous eastward journey to deliver a message that holds the fate of the war torn homeland Amidst the shifting stands of history, they will etch a final tale of loyalty. Any hadays set during the final years of the Tang dynasty players will reverse a treheris onene thousand mile Odyssey, three thousand Lee, I guess that is. Back to Chg on. heart of the Tang Empire I don't know It actually looks really good. I just and I like the I like the name quite a bit as well, if I'm being honest It also, we always make fun of like the like the China slop or whatever And I just If you're into the shit, if you're into like romance of the Three Kingdoms, if you're into dynasty warriors, if you're into shit like that you know, or these like the amazing historical novels of Chinese history and all the stories and the war and stuff I mean, it's like right up your alley. It's just not for me It's too know, I can't keep up with it I't know what's going on and I don' Looks good. What do you think Yeah, I I think I'm in the same boat where like visually the graphics on this look reallyally, really strong Um, but I just there feels like there's a lot of these kinds of games and they kind of all blend in my head So when this comes out, if it's like, This game' amazing. You gott to check it out. then certainly Nothing really spoke to me where I was like, o man 'm really excited for Blood message All right, next up is Stranger than Heaven, which we've seen before. This is the new Ryoo Got tou stududio game. published by Sega that I guess is ostensibly in The Yakuza Universe I don't know if it's ever confirmed that might be somehere in the press release I haven't read it. By way I' kind of flying by the seat of my pants with a lot of the shs, we just didn't have time to prepare like I usually do Um So the press release for the game. It doesn't really get too much in the game itself, although we saw Studiohead Mesaoshi Yoka Yama com to the stage to talk about the game's release date, which is january fifteenth, twenty twenty seven. so very early next year. very appropriate. I think it's a great time for it. The bigger thing is the inclusion of Tw rappers, famous rappers, one very much alive, one dead for three decades and a little bit controversial. Snoop dogs in the game When he's in everything, so that's not a huge surprise. And it's funny. He's in so many things that I don't find him distracting for some reason Yeah Maybe he is, but it's just like You're just kind of ever present and always around ethereal And then the stranger one, Tupac which has caused quite the fewurer Obviously I said on the show and they confirmed Snoop said it it's like, this is all through his estate. It's not like they're just doing it rogue, It's not the way would work. But I do find that distracting He's like such a they're both cultural icons, but the whole thing about Tupac is like, is he alive? Is he dead? What happened to him? Like you know, I don't know, man'ss weird. It's a weir So I was looking when I was in between this, I went and I got food and I was eating taco Bell in a parking lot by myself. Nice Sounds really sad, but I actually really enjoyed listening to music and just eating food and I was like, okay, nice little break in between I was looking at Twitter. on Je posted that apparently Tupac's sister is in a legal battle with the executor of T bocks a state technically. So I don't know what the story is there though But apparently His estate and his family might be too different. Things So there's controversy Okay, interesteresting. Okay. Like Gean, let me I'll just send you this tweet real quick. because He posted a picture of the guy that's in charge of his state. It's just like this like This white like old white guy where Let's see, Tupx,ur' sister,'s executive of rappers. This is guy look. I think he imped with the Tupox. Yeah Yeah. So even if It was his like good situation with his family in the estate. I think that this is still I don't know if distasteful is the right word But I guess it is to me where I kind of have a I don't like Feels like you're parading a corpse of somebody. Yeah. I agree You know, he His family isn't him. Like if Tupac wrote like, I want to be in video games after I'm gone or something, I don't know It just feels Weird, it feels like a marketing that's like, oh we're gonna put twoupock in the game. I don't like it. I find it kind of gross Yeah, it's weird So I think it's just weird because let me let me Yeah, I was gonna to say, didn't Tupac die in nineteen ninety six? It's been forever. Like it's just it's just weird I don't know, whatever. it's not a game I'm going to play. I don't care about it and I don't, you know, whatever. It's for other people to be upset about or not. but That's obsvation. All right. Next up is hacks or Hcks. I think it's hacks. H A E X It's a game from a new studio in Sweden called Dead Astronauts. It's described as, quote, a c op survival shooter Set in an alien scarred Nordic wilderness They write in their press release briefly quote During Smmer Game Fest, thatad astronauts officially revealed their debut title haacks, an atmospheric multiplayer first person shooter set in an alien scarred wilderness engulfed by a mysterious paranormal mist Aaxe follows players tracking down missing members of their science expedition after waking from a helicopter crash Played solo or with up to three friends. An anomaly has appeared in the subub Arctic North. And as part of the expedition setent to investigate players will need to discover not only the cause of the anomaly, but what part of the expedition is missing Set in a hostile wilderness, alien creatures and maches are leaving the mist and the elements kill as easily as they do Cold management, hungry, thirst, resource gathering and loadout preparation determine how far players can go The deeper they push into the mist, the more dangerous the world and enemies become New threats required different combat tactics and skillful use of firearms, heavy melee, and specialized survival gadgets. alien seeds found or crafted by players can reshape parts of the open world Planting them grants access to new pathways and resources and changes the structure of the environment for better or worse Progress carries across sessions, allowing players to bring their fully geared character into any world including your friend's active game Characters and worlds are saved separately. So each world maintains its own independent state and storyline It actually sounds pretty cool I don't know how it's going to go. It'll probably be so co op centric as to be made for co op ostensibly. Like you can play helldivers by yourself But not really. I wonder if that will be the same thing here Um, if it's, but I love the that's kind of a little column sloping a little bit some of some of the thematics What do you think Yeah, I am re watchatching the trailer now and I love the specific feel of that alien tech. I think you mentioned arrival M. Yeah, the seamless like very So technologically advanced that it looks too simple Yeah. So I think this looks Kind of cool. I gotta say I hate the name dead astronauts for Studio name, it just makes me think dead ass. dead ass. You know dead ass Dead ass. Dead ass. But I thought this looked pretty cool. So maybe this is one for the boys with some co ops Yeah, we'll keep a close eye this one as well. I think this looks pretty cool. The name I don't know, I don't really understand the name, but maybe we'll understand it more when the time comes. I don't think they yeah, the studio was only founded in twenty twenty four I don't think this will be anytime soon, probably but we'll see All right, we can skip the next F as I see. so nine was dead by daylight' tenth anniversary. We don't care about that ten is Mortal Shell two's open beteta, which is steam only Eleven is a steam only game called San Riders ofophie, so we don't worry about that. twelve is Asassin's Creed for sinct, Black flag resinct. That comes out july ninth. We've seen it already. I actually think looks pretty good. I'm not going to play it, but I think it looks pretty good. So that brings us to thirteen which is Platinum Games is doing a teenage Mut Ninja Turtles game called the Last Ronin Did they do another TMNT game that was published by Activision with remember that game? wasas that them I am trying to remember Did they do mutants in Manhattan Maybe one of the gamees was on Google. Yeah, mayaybe one like something that people that weren't crazy about or whatever but this will probably be a little different. So I couldn't find a press release for this. This comes from Paramount Game Studios though which was just announced today actually, and apparently it is being led by Amy Henneig. Did you see that? I haven't read into any of this yet. But U So I believe it was pork said it on the show, but Push square kindly put it in their piece as well is that there was a last Roning game already announced And this game was being published by THQ Nordic at one of their studios, Black Forest. but you'll remember Black Forest gotott That was in twenty twenty three when the going was still okay for embracer. you remember that embracer kind fe apart after that and they lost a lot of funding. So that studio I think still exist, but I think they got completely gutted So the game was canceled apparently quietly in twenty twenty four and this is a new version that has is totally disconnected And frankly, a more capable studio. no offense Not thelatinum. that's why I was bring P platin. Platinum doesn't always heromes. they don't they don't even get the wood on the ball sometimes, but They are much more reliable and this is much more in their wheelhouse, I think. so Something pretty cool. I'm not a huge. I love old turtles. I don't know anything about the comics and all the other stuff, but I'm sure I'llck out when the time comes Are you in on the last Ronin I know next to nothing about the last Ron other than some of the things people have told me about it. But I'm not really big on TMNT to begin with. I'm more interested in the fact that Platinum is involved U Just because like looking at Platinum the last few years twenty twenty five, Ninja Guide four was very good. and I like that twenty twenty three was Bayonetta Origins. And then before that in twenty twenty two Babylon's fall and Bayonetta through Right. So I think that and right now on looking on their Wikipedia, it's listed that their upcoming projects are this one somethingomething called Project GG and then some kind of partartnership with Ci Games called Ohter. It's an iPhone. Damn So Do you see this note, cllosed beta tests occurred in august twenty twenty seventeen? trader or renewed in twenty six, that's interesting Interesting They're small. I mean it says their headcounts two hundred fifty so they can't be doing too much Yeah. that's a pretty tiny team. Yeah. Oh yeah, and they worked on snake Eater the Metal Gear Solid Delta. They did the minig game. Oh, right, right, right right I forgot about that. Yeah. so they're doing some contract work, which I think is going to be necessary to stay alive. I mean, they They're a great studio, but they they're ad hoc. I mean,, you have to find the work. It's going to be difficult. And when you're not as consistent as you probably should be It's not going to be as easy to keep that work I think I read it from the outside. First of all, Platinum had like a lot of Over time, I've lost a lot of people The other thing is and going all the way back to almost at the beginning, likeike when those guys left Clover from Capcom and came over, like they've been losing people them since the beginning. always been a little bit inconsistent, but it's funny that partners Like you would think Nintendo would have felt burned by the Star Fox shit back on Wi U, but they like come back Yeah I think that's a pretty good sign. And they've worked with almost everybody, really. So It'll be very interesting to see and I'm rooting for them. I like that team. And yeah, the TMNT game Mutants in Manhattan came to PS three and PS four, which is interesting in twenty sixteen It has like a fifty on Metacritics. So Yeah, not good. They missed on that one. Yeah, Activion was like doing weird license shit with for them for a while. I don't know what that was all about Yeah. I uh I hope It's so weird with Platum when they hit dude, they're Best in class in terms of gameplay, combat But 'causeuse like, dude, Da Guen four was Awesome. They co developed that with Team Ninja, but U So yeah, I'm I'm curious about what their future looks like now with this game. I wouldd love to see them working on a new near game, but Who knows it's a different time that was back in twenty seventeen. It was almost ten years ago. Indeed. So who knows All right, fourteen is just Fortnite shit, who gives a shit. fifteen is Gundam Rogue orbit I thought this was really cool looking. I was a little disappointed to see that it was a Gndam game because I just feel like a posos But I do love my battle robe. I always just love big mechs. I think they're fun. orr even not even that big mechs. Like I love From mission, for instance, I love Someone small getting into these big machines. I just I think it's fun And obviously it's a trope There's a series for you. can work them What is it A an Gillion. Oh o ye I don't know if you'd like it. Yeah I don't.' I'm open med to do it. But Although I think as we were saying, and we'll talk about it a little bit, my anime mind right now is more on just getting back to attack on Titan Theyre right here in a press release. It's published by Bandynico. O obiously Bandnanico is always published Gundam Games. Well Pandae used to publish the games and before Banday Nankko merger They writes Um let's see. Oh, this is a little bit an interesting verb Bandai Namo Entertainment America Inc thrilled sci fi game fans today during the summer Games Fest live stream, revealing the fast paced to high mobility action game Gundam Rue orrbit. Why is everyone reffusing to use cols anymore. Have you just haveave you noticed this? It's annoying Like the resident evil res evil Veronica just one thing Bundum rogue orbit, control resonance.'s like what are we doing developed byand on AMcoo Studios Inc The cinematic title introduces a brand new timeline in the Gunnam saga where humanity must fight for survival against an unknown threat. The story is a bold new chapter in the Gundam franchise as a thrilling evolution for a long time fans and a perfect entry point for newcomers into this epic sci fi series, well, you would say that It looks pretty neat. Maybe I'll check out when the time comes They say they'll have more to share in the coming months, but I don't think this game' com out this year, obviously. So it says slated for twenty twenty seven on PS five.. Well, I think that Gundam fans from what I could tell are pretty thrilled with this just because all the Gundam games that I've seen look Budget And this one, both from in terms of their cinematics and even the little bit of gameplay they showed looks Pretty dang, cool I really liked the last armored Core game and I've always wanted to get into Gundam neverever really known where to start There's like a million anime series. So I I Gunam is a huge dark spot for me in my anime Webdum. So this game though, they say if it's a good jumping off point Maybe this is it All right, let's see. sixteen is extremely hard game, which looks great, but it's steam only And I also couldn't find very much about it Number seventeen is crossfire And this comes from That'snow Moon, which was founded years ago now and we were talking, I reminded you that Michael Mumbauer of Sony Visual Arts Fame was one of the co founders of the studio and I think you can see kind of some of his DNA in this game because Those guys were obsessed with the visual fidelity and that's what he brings to it Um, so It's pretty I He looks pretty cool. U Though we don't really know exactly what it's all about. So they say, I went to the steam page, that's where I can find the most information They write, quote, Layla, a gun for hire is on a reconnaissance contract in the Atlas Mountains that quickly devolves into a harrowing struggle she cannot overcome alone Tust is an opposing operator, trained, lethal and the last person Leayl would choose to trust, but trust isn't the point, making it out alive is Fighting for survival in their own humanity, the Pair' fraught alliance is the only chance at overcoming the existential threat ahead So they describe it as a gripping cinematic narrative. So I mean, there is like Sony DNA in this game from that perspective cover based shooting With really cool, I was just saying it during the stream, really cool animations peopleople kind of you know, getting around and being quiet and being stealthy They describe it as high tension combat cinematic landscape and so on and so forth. No other information about it Right now, Publisher is marked as teeam K one. I don't know what that is. They only come up with one steam it could be just a holding company for that. That's no one I don't know. but it only has This as the game. So I don't know what that is Um I mean, I don't know anything else to say about this Yeah, I can see definitely some of that Sony DNA in it I'm I'm a little unsure about this there There was some small part of me specifically in seeing the cutscenes that it reminded me of Mind's eye? a little bit sure on the gameplay. Yeah. I think the gameplay looks vastly superior to a mind's eye. but Im I'm curious about it. It was kind of funny that on stage they're like, check out our cover system. I mean, it fit for the audience, but It u I'm I'm curious about this one's been in the making for a while because you were saying that'snow moon was back with Michael Mumbau Yeah. Yeah like Yeah, he left fairly early, but like and then he went to whatever that web three company was, but like it's been years. Yeahah. And and I knew a couple of people that work there that have since left, but I kind of for forgot them. And it's funny because I was saying on the stream pre show and people are,h their game is going to share. I'm like I don't care until you show it to me But I think it's more impressive now that we see it and we can kind of hold to account a little bit. We'll see. what it's all about if and when I'm sure we will Number eighteen was control resident. I'm tired of seeing this game. It looks awesome. I don't want to know any moreore. seepptember twenty fourth it comes to Playtation five. I think we're all in agement there. Pus we already covered it in the state of play section n And by the way, I do want to reiterate though, I said it's on the stream but for people that didn't listen to that You can see the hallmarks of this new leadership and being much more at remedy YA executive is another CEO and you can see the much more aggression in marketing the games. which I think is key because their games undersell and I don't really understand it either. Number nineteen is an interesting one, Guild Wars three. It's interesting because it's coming to PlayStation five, which is unusual They write, quote in the press release from Arena Nette, critically acclaimed game development studio, Arena Nette tonight announced Guild Wars threeI the third entry in the legendary and beloved Guild Wars MMORPG franchise and their first new game since twenty twelve The game will release globally on PC, Steam, and PlayStation five. Marking the first time a Guild Wars game will appear on home consoles. The first beta test is scheduled for fall of twenty twenty seven So Not a game for me A couple interesting things here that I was doing a little bit of research when I could before we started recording is Guilda Wars I only came to steam three years ago And I think you had to play it I think NCissoft was the publisher and kn you had to play it through purple which is where people again, are going to have to play the horizon. Horizon, whatever the fuck it's called Steel frontier g Horizon steal horizon will be a doe fucking awesome there Horizon, Ste Horizon So one of the things that I don't know if they say it in here, but one of the hallmarks of Gild Wars was that you buy it once and that there are no more There's no price to pay for the expansions I feel like that is both their hallmark and also insanely risky And I don't know I think you have it slightly wrong. Oh if I remember correctly, Yes, it's that you buy it and you do pay for expansion. No subscription cost. Yeah. No monthly subscript part part.'re right Um so I don't know if they're going to do that again. I feel like Oh, it says here the franchise has always been playable with no subscription if you're required welcoming over twenty nine million players across its history, which is a lot of people I feel like It's kind of nice, right? I mean, and When Guild Wars two came out or even the original, but when Guild Wars two came out in twenty twelve, subscriptions were still kind of a Paint thing might have had a very early Spotify subscription. you might have had Netflix for a few years and a few other things, but now fast forward all these years later and it's like enough And it might really be able to take advantage of that be kind of cool. I'm really intrigued by this just in that I played I think I played some of Guild Wars O and Guild Wars two Good Wars I came out. if I remember like right When I started college, Well twenty thirteen, mayaybe. Uh so I remember liking them U when but not being like super into it. And the no monthly subscription is of course appealing because that's one of the things that sucks about playing Ward of Warcraft or Final Fantasy The other thing I'm just intrigued by is that he made an emphasis that like this is a a the next step in MMO, the next generation MMO And I'm intrigued by that because Ward of Warcraft and Final Fantasy Xteen are games that are very much the old ways that have just been consistent. There's never I think other companies have tried to do new types of MMO's like Black Desert was one that had like really interesting combat system So I'm curious to see how they can evolve that very firmly rooted genre So I'm interested and the fact that it's coming to PlayStation. I know you mentioned that already, but Be PlayStation focused and steam Pretty pretty interesting I said this and it sounds like a mean spirited thing say. it's not what I mean, but just to put it out there' like people are like, well, why isn't it coming to Xbox? And'm like, I think it could be thatsony paid for it. but it could be that it's kind of becoming more common knowledge or maybe the assumption in any way is that If your game is coming, like their beta test doesn't begin til late twenty twenty seven, right? Like so And they say it was closed even. So like the game is probably twenty eight, twenty nine or something and you're looking at a game where it's like probablyably just will play PC games on your new Xbox. and there really won't I don't know if this goes a certain way if there will be Xbox iterations of games ultimately Because like why You'll want to support series for a while, but If the new Xbx is truly like going to be PC, it's like, well, then you'll just play the PC version. So I think things are going to change from that perspective. and that might just be really the first sign of that. We'll have to keep an eye on that as we move forward All right, number twenty is Star Wars Galactic Racer. It's actually looks great and it was new trailer. I don't really have anything to say about it though. october sixth Um, Are you gonna to check this g out I may check it out. I love that it looks so burn out. And I loved Star Wars episode onene Racer when I was a kid. Oh yeah.. So I might check this out. trailer was good. And then number twenty one was End of Abyss, which is another of these games that's coming to Epic and PlaySation five, but not Steam It's launching on I guess in October It says in the depths of a mysterious underground compound, a mission to investigate disturbances of unknown origin spirals into a harrowing descent, throughrough a broken and abandoned world, play plays the young combat technicians cell as she uncovers the truth behind the facility's derelict areas and confronts the monstrous creatures that roam An interest in this? kindind of looks Yeah cool I know that for some reason on the stream I was slightly distracted when this came up, but It is from Uh peoplee that worked on littleittle nightmares and littleittle nightmares too, not that team, but veterans that team. And you can tell from from looking at it that it's that type of game, but Ls creepy. I love the like really strong colors at least from these screenshots here, like the red flare, the deeply blue background. So I haven't played littleittle Nightmares one or two, so I know people love those games though, so I'm sure they're excited All right, number twenty two is a game called Lass Harbor It' only on Steam, so we won't be covering that here. twenty three is Virta fighter Crossroads We're not fighting game people really, but this is a pretty big deal They right here In the press release first of all, we've already known that the virtual fighter game was coming. We've already seen it, I think C confirm that's coming out in twenty seven, via Sega, Ryogo Goteku is working on it, which is interesting It's the first virtual fighter game I think in L I should have looked this up. I'm sorry. I didn't really have time to prepare Virtical fighter. See, what peopleople wonder like, what do you do when you prepare and take notes? It's this kind of shit. So I know The most recent virtual fighter was Yeah, right, five which and like and there was an ultimate version. So five was released in The arcades in twenty ten and then was rereleased over and over again There's ultimate showdown And so on, and there's this other online version. But I think this is a big deal because this is the first new true version of a fighter game in a long time I'm not a fan. I feel like Cog I recall me because he was such a saega dude ight Maybe he would be a good person to cover this. Vincent Genito would be a good person to talk to about this as well Um Anything to say about this, probablyably not. I u I'm just I alsoso don't know anything about Virtual Fighter, but Fighter, but it seems like the big thing is that the story mode looks pretty Extensive So That's kind of cool. That aspect um twenty four was Runescapeed Dragonilds We saw that at' state play. So they're obviously being quite aggressive about that as well. And we don't have anything to say about that. Number twenty five is soul frame. I mean, it's enough already twenty six is grounded two This was interesting because Grounded two, of course, is an Xbox first party game from Obsidian, the sequel to grounded, very well respected online game Early Ais will be expanding to PlayStation five beginning august eleventh, alongside the so called into the Abyss update So they're going to continue to expand the grant, you know M hard in the point but make groundwk to get this game going because grounded did really well on PlayStation other than Like see of these did better in the multipayer space, but grounded did surprisingly well. if you believe the Olineia analytics numbers, which I do Anything to say about this Hear you Hear you herees PS five. Yeah that this is one of those things you maybe get out of your showcase. shouldould you want to rely more on your own you know, your own releases, but tell you good y don't know anything really about these games. It's Honey I shrunk the kids, which is kind of cool. but I'm I'm very selective about like crafting type games that I play. so Next up, this is number twenty seven is Mafia of The Old Country's expansion announced for august fourteenth called Man of Honor They write on their steam page on the news page, which is all I could find, quote, step into the role of Enzo Favora and work alongside No Sellieri in the Man of Honor expansion for Mafia the Old Country, featuring two new story chapters and new content for free ride mode Let's see, first revealed that summer gameah, Sicily winter nineteen oh five, and the month since his initiation E so Favaro has proven himself a reliable soldier of the Tsi Cime family Now that Don andrusts him in Cesar with a delicate assignment. Assist any Osceellieri, a man of honor recently released from prison and intent on reclaiming what is his At Celiary's side, Enzo is drawn deeper into the volatile underworld of the valet Dorada where loyalty is tested, debts are settled and every move carries weight. I'm sure I'm doing the Italian great justice. I think this is a prequel, right? I can't feels like prequel content But mayaybe I'm totally wrong on that. I don't know. It's been a while since I played the last one. but I loved the Mfee the old country I thought was Will you check this out when the time comes august fourteenth? I twoo chapters is a little little thin Maybe the free room st the free ride stuff will be kind cool because I know they added that mode later and I never messed around with it. Yeah, I didn't play this game at all. so I will not be checking it out. but, it's so good, dude, you should really play it. I really do recommend it There's many other things to play but it's a great game. Next up is twenty eight Number twenty eight is a sixteen sixty six Amsterdam The press release for this, I think this looks fucking awesome.Qote Penashh Digital Games, the studio behind Ancestors, the humanankind Odysy. I don't remember that nameame Today unveiled sixteen sixty six Amsterdam, a dark third person story led action adventure game from creative director Patrice DA with a worldorld premiere trailer showced during summer Games Fest A free playable proogue isvailable now in Steam and epic g stores and Playsttation. The stand alone narrative teas are lasting approximately thirty minutes introduces the world characters and core Mystery of sixteen sixty six Amsterdam The full game is set to launch in early access on PC in twenty twenty six with console versions planned for a later date and you can wish we'll sit now on steam if you want. This game looks this is one of probably the top C certainly top five, but maybe even higher than that for me in the show. This game looks fucking sick Um what did you think I was a little distracted because I think this is when we were switching between YouTube and Twitches out of sync U, but what is What is the gameplay of this game Do we know it all? Yeah it does's not I don't think it's incredibly clear from the trailer. I think it's more clear from the text that it's a story led action adventure game. So story led. I wonder if it's some sort of what would be a good Toblade Yeah,ight. Yeah. okay. yeah, like something like that. because I was going to say like something like Firewatch or something, but that's not even that gameplay oriented, something more gameplay oriented than that. So yeah, that might be a a good example. I think it looks really neaty. Let's see here Is there anything any other real information before the clar the problew hing else new. There is you can play the prolog' and to learn more about it if you like Here's I'm looking so I'm on their specific YouTube channel and a comment says, yes, finally, I'm twenty seven and first started getting hype for this When I was like thirteen or fourteen. Oh yeah, I don't even know anything about Apparently this game has some legs behind it, but I'll check out the prologue if it's on steam Certainly, why not Yeah I don't know any. I'm trying to see a team of nearly. They have seventy people. They're in Montreal All right. we'll see what happ All right, next up is number twenty nine, saaw Genesis This is coming from Boober team. So that has my attention alsoso I was saying there was a saw game published by Konami back on PS three, which was not that bad. No saws kind of lost the plot maybe literally, but and I've not seen any of them except for the first few, but I really liked the first saw I was saying that on the stream. So I'm open minded to this There's problem though is that's multiplayer game So yeah that kind of kills my My excitement. H's what they say In collaboration with Bluber team and its co development label broken mirror games, together with Antar Studios, officially everyone unveiled saaw Genesis a twisted new asymmetrical multiplayer horror game featuring a storyline that precedes the events of the iconic saaw films that influences Jigsaw and his elaborate psychological games Buing on the success of the Blurry Witch video game, the critically acclaimed horror developers have once again teamed up with the Lionionsgate, leveraging Bloober team's expertise in crafting immersive horror experiences while expanding the lore of the saw Universe and preserving the psychological intensity that defines the franchises of the franchise. Sw Genesis is a three v one multiplayer horror game in which three accused are pressure driven to work together to escape a potentially fatal maze of traps while a single judge orchestrates their trials, imposing diabolical tests and fororcing impossible moral choices when survival comes with a cost Set in the gram aftermath of World War I. Sow Genesis lets players take part in either side of this unnerving confrontation in intense matches played on procedurally generated maps So yeah, this gets more into the spirit of old blooper which is fine And I don't mind that either. There's a place for that. people like those games pllus the multiplayer element, I'm sure will be very good. There seems to be a lot of horror theme fans that like multiplayer experiences and that makes a lot of sense because they're tense Are you going to check this out Maybe maybe this is something I'm sure Jimmy is going to be all over this, but Three V one, I always feel like a symmetrical multiplayer is like cooler on paper than when I actually Poy it I never could get into dead by daylight. Bide but not really my thing. so I'm T keen on this one, but saawan as an IP. it never seems to go away. They keep they keep doing stuff with it. but yeah, Bluber team just consistently theyve got it feels like they have so many projects because they're working on The Silenthill O remake, assumingly, the Silenthill one remake Sounds like they're working on something for Chronos They're working on this might be working on other stuff too that I can't think of, but Pretty busy Number thirty is Lords of the Fallen I two. I think we've seen that plenty of times at this point. so we can skip at that. Number thirty one has been long rumored Um And I think the name has been confired, right? No one just no one's seen it They revealed Star Wars Zero company, a turnerm based tactics game set in the Clone Wars The press release says, quote at Star Wars celebration. Oh no, this is yeah, I'm sorry, this is the wrong press release This is the twenty five pressortse. Yeah, I was gonna say this was confirmed a while ago. so pardon me on that. me let me see I can find Star Wars Zero company I feel like I'm back on C and Greg live when I used to like read the wrong news all the time. Oh here we go Yeah was announced one year agoight because like this is the wrong press release and it is. So the new press release says, quote, Electronic Arts today announced that Star Wars Zero company with a typo, surprising. A single player turnerm based tactics game developed by Bit Reactor in collaboration with Lucas Film Games will be available on PC, Playtation five and Xbox seriesXS. Starting august twenty seventh, twenty twenty six There's a gameplay trailer that we saw during the press release, or I'm sorry during the the showcase and people can read the press release for more information Interestingly, it' only be fifty dollars. It looks like an XcomM game, which is fine. I was saying on the stream that I just don't like these kinds of tactics games. I prefer This is term based, but more term based isometric grid based like You know Tactics Ogre front mission fancy tactics that kind of Fel seal, a game I really lik This is not my thing becausecause this what I was saying like, if there was something that was going to kind of break me And it would be like a Star Wars game made like in the fashion that I'd be like, that's kind of tantalizing U but that's not this. Will you play Zero compompany this late the summer? Probably not I The only game like this I really liked was the XCom, the revival of Xcom Enemy Unknown. And I did like that game a lot. I tried to get into Xcom too. I didn't like that the You were timed, I believe on the matches, which I understand why they would want to do that And maybe some people like it. I didn't like that aspect So I've kind of shied away from games like this And I gott to be honest, I In terms of my Star Wars interest, which is very, very low Clone Wars is at the absolute rock bottom of my Star Wars interest No thanks. All right, we can skip over a bunch of the next ones. thirty two is Blood of Dawn Walker. They did show some new stuff here. I think it's fairly controversial. what they showed. We talked a little bit about it on the stream and that they, I don't even want to say because it's like surpris that they even showed it I guess they speil it themselves, but like basically what they're teasing is like modern day stuff. really know what they're doing and they're like setting up a universe, which is, I think, bold and presumpt presumptuous before your game comes out. I mean, I understand you're planning and you probably have something really good on your hands I must admit I'm little disappointed And the turn and I think Brad put it best.'s very Castlevania Lord's a shadow to like, and that's bad Mojo Bad bad movie But I'm still excited about the game still open minded. early September we'll play it Um, thirty three, some among us stuff, I don't care. Number thirty four was a z zer seven expansion, but they really didn't say anything about it. just that they're planning on doing something So I did just see that the game sold two point seven million units in its first wee, so that's When I was having my Taco Bell Solo time. eararlier, I saw that they laid out their year one plans for zer zero seven It's very io interactive that there are single player games that they they almost treat them I don't want to say theyre like live service, but they have consistent like new updates, new ways to play this level adding a new, I think they're adding a new spy gadget and stuff. So Very cool and a really nice thing that they're they're going to add all this stuff in the next year and it's totally free. So Super nice consumer move and double seven is fucking awesome. So play you're going to play tonight Yeah, I am. I'm gonna to play after dinner and it's so late now'm running late but I'll definitely play it before I go to b All right, next up is so among us Double of seven. thirty five is a Ghic remake, which is already out. that was a commercial. thirty six is A on two, a commercial for that, which is not even on Playsttation, I don't think Wathering waves across cyberpunk event was thirty seven. That's a commercial as well. Number thirty eight was Monster Hunter Wild' Ascends, which is a new expansion a massive expansion, as they call it in the press release actually for the controversial Mster Hunter Wilds They'll come out in twenty twenty seven It says,Qote, Mster Hunter Wild's descendants advances the story of the forbidden lands as the expedition team's adventures soars to a new locale set amongst the clouds. In the expansion hunters will explore islands in the sky and wield explosive new abilities that evolve the gameplay and take the hunting action in new heights The challenge will also rise to a whole new level with the return of Elder Dragons and master rank content So not much more to say about it than that. You are on again off again, monsterunter guy, weren't you Yeah, well, I I got into it kind of late with Mster Hunter rise, but I like that game a lot. That was where Brad Ny's romance really began was playing that game together And then Monster Inner Wild, we played it a ton when it came out, but I think Not speaking from for myself, but from others that it felt like the end game was a little disappointing for longtime Mrene her fans And also this is a PC gamer problem, but also it didn't run great on PlayStation. It didn't run great anywhere So it kind of had us falling off of it. So I'm very intrigued by this. Hopefully it's improved in the ways that can keep its longevity If I remember monz on our worlds when Iceborne came out was like I think a lot of people thought it was better than the base game. So I'm very interested in this and we'll be keeping a watch fly. Next up is and we're in thirty nine now is Swords of Legends. This game was actually revealed as Push Square reminds us in their story last year at Gamescom openping Night at GamesCom or Gamescom opening Night Gam Com, Jesus Christ I'm shot Um Yeah, I don't know. it's just more of these like kind of Chinese style additional historical hack and slash games that looks cool, but Again you were saying it's just These Souls like games and these it's just it's all bring together for me. So do you have anything you want to say about those The only thing to say about this is shout out to Kong Kong Z Master of Cantrip, who is the boss fight, which actually was pretty cool because he's like a cloth or a carpet. Yeah It was really cool. It looked like a Persian rug or something Yeah, he was cool, but I'm I'm good on this. Soulskes Next up is number forty. It's a pretty big one, although not for me and not for you probably, but it's for a lot of people. Hot wheels, infinite rush This comes from Matel acting as publisher with a milestone, which is the Italian long running Italian raising developer They write here, quote, set in a dynamic, freely explorable environments designed in the signature scale and style of hot wheels Plers can watch in the gravity defying stunt and high speed adventures beyond the iconic orange tracks Features include explore a hot wheel sized world, high speed arcade racing, competitive multiplayer, create and customize, all sorts of things for your cars and your tracks and all the rest Um Yeah, I mean, this is a follow up to I think a surprisingly popular twenty twenty one game hot wheels unleashed The Turbo chararge sequel, which came on twenty twenty three. So there's continuing to go and these games I gotta look, like how wh weel unleashed Yeah, it's by a year after it came out, it was already at two million units with eight million players. I mean, it's Howot Wheels isn't exactly the most relevant brand anymore far as I can tell to see myids play fucking toys I don't know. I'm interested in this, notot necessarily I'm going like pick it up and play it day one, but it kind of makes it sound like it's a little more world like on this press release says race across four themed islands where players can sky jump between environments, smash their obstles, bl, blah blah. So I wonder if they're kind of taking a page out of like Fortza Horizon which I'm always intrigued by those games, but I am such an arcade racer guy that it doesn't quite work for me So and Mario Car World was very disappointing in terms of its a world aspect. So a car racer feeling arcade racer game that has an open world aspect. kind of C could be interesting The next two are both Sonic related, unfortunately. Num forty one is new characters andand DLC stuff coming to Sonic rac Sonic racing cross worldorlds TMMT coming july twenty twenty six, Leo Don Rafa, Michaelangelo And then I guess avatar stuff, Avatar, the cartoon stuff is coming later in the summer and then later in the year Godzilla and Evangelion. are you interested in checking the evangelion stuff out I kind of am though I don't know if it's enough to for me to want to buy the game. Maybe if I could get on like a super sale at some point. because it some of thegellion stuff in it looked really silly and out of pocket So I try to not be one of those fans that just consumes. That's like, oh, I'svangelion, so now I must submit to Sonic I must bend the knee to Sonic. Don't ever Not sure about that. Number forty two is Sonic Pico Park, which is a version of the game Pico Park I guess imbued with Sonic for its thirt fifetth anniversary. Puo Park is a game by Techco Park, which came to PC in twenty sixteen and Switch in twenty nineteen. I don't really know anything about it I think it's a c op like puzzle or something, And then There was a sequel People Park two and I was looking this up because it actually came to everything but Playstation which is weird hu. So I don't know if this is I assume this will come into Playsttation, but something to keep an eye on. If you have anything to say about this before we move on? Kn nothing about it Number forty three is attack on Titan three This is coming from Omega Force, so it is a MusO and being published by Koe Techmo They write here quote today, Koe Techmo America and developer Omegafce announced attack on Titan three, challenging fans to dedicate their hearts and fight for the survival on a dark fantasy world terrorized by giant humanoids. The new action game is based on the popular anime and manga series created by Haijime Asayyama and enables AOT enthusiasts to play through the entire epic storyline for the first time commemorate the announcement a reveal trailer has been released, offering an exclusive first look at the upcoming game, blah bl, blah. ttack Titan three is the riing culination of O Mega Fororces' action game series depicting the story oftack on Titan from its survey core beginning to its dramatic conclusion. Fans can ready their blades for combat against the nine Titans while learning more about the characters in L through the brand new story content. Ugrades and improvements to the Omni Directional mobility here Battle system helping create more acrobatic and intense fights Fans can experience the terror drama of an attack on Titan, the leegendary story like never before. What is it about these m sos that are so attractive Yeah, I'm trying to remember if I'm sure that this has a lot of Muso trappings, but Like in watching the trailer, there's straight up boss fights with Titans And so Maybe it's not quite as mousseau as we're initially. You might be right, actually because I'm looking at Omea Fororces Wikipedia page. They make a bunch of games obviously And they have them split up so that it's like dynasty warriors and then spinoffs of Dynasty Warriors and then samurai warriors And then Warriors A Rochci and Warriors All Stars. and then the license stuff. So it's like from Fis to the North Star to Zelda to whatever this DragQ questest and everything fire home And then they have other And in there They have a few random things like remember the game Bladeestorm and T two Kaidd, which was kind of a soul sacrifice copy and then the attack on Titan gam in there as well And there's attack on Titan in twenty sixteen, attack on Titan in twenty eighteen. They're described as hack and slash. So I imagine they probably are Muso, but probably not volumetric action games In other words, like not the endless barrage of enemies be something more deliberate. It probably has to be because it's There's not like an infinite number of these titans, right H. Well, we'll see I love A attack on Titan. I'm I'm curious anime games have very, very mixed quality. but I'm curious if you like atttack on Titan one and two the games, let me know if they are of quality. I think I own one of them, but I've never played it We can move through these quick as well. forty four was clutched. That game has already been revealed, but it's the new game from some of the Fortza Horizon people It looks pretty good forty five is Chronicles Medieval, which is only on PC. forty six was something about sea of Remnances, I don't even know. forty seven was Hitman's elusive target, which was Pittburgh's own Wizk Galifa, as we saw. Wait. The forty seventh announcement was Hitman Yeah. is he is agent forty. Yeahah, that's right. That's veryer interesting. Yeahah, it was I mean, By my account. Yeah Very cool. Because I had a few things that I like use like halfves ' there was like, u Death Row Games was seven point five Switch' for Scissoral was twenty four point five Switch's second reel was thirty four point five. and then the Capcom sale was forty six point five So yeah, those are all games. So I think it does, it is forty seven games Oh and Hitman, it's the Wiz Khalifa elusive target is what they're doing. so Like I said Pittsburghs very own wasiz Kalifa forty eight is Pow worldorld. I guess they're finallying out of early access or something because I think they were calling at one point zer Um I'm infinitely tired of talking about that game. And then number forty nine is a big one and fifty was a big one too. They're related. forty nine was The wolf among us too whichich was first revealed a long time ago back in twenty twenty two, I want to say from tellelltale I don't know if it's like the same version as that game. I assume it probably is. It's being slated for twenty twenty seven and it is, of course, based on the Tableless comic series Mike is really excited about this It comes out alongside number fifty here, which is the Wolf Amongst Remastered. This is obviously a big thing to do a smart thing to do as well. They got to get people reinvigorated about the series and that will come out later this year, the holiday season of this year. So That's something else for you to look forward. An any interest in these games? I have never played the Wolf Aong us. so I I know a lot of people are loveve it and they're so excited for Wolf Aong us too. So I'm glad they're finally getting that Is stuff for like Telltale obviously had all their problems. Is this their first like in their reborn State Coming back. find out It Hotelle Games twenty eighteen, the present is they have like their own Batman Shadows Edition was twenty nineteen. The expanse was there first thing right And then this is the wolf among us is the the technically the second thing because theatman stuff was done beforefore they became this company, I think they were just combining the work that they had already did at the because the batman of stuff was like late original telltale And I think they carried it over Good question, though All right, just a few more to get through. fifty one was Stellar Blade Blood Rin, Squel to Stellar Blade Starring an all new character, which I think is awesome. And I wonder like how the gooners feel about it because she's got the tight outfit on, but she kind of like like she kind of looks like a child almost. It's kind of like uncomfortable, you know Yeah I don't know. like I don't know. what they're doing like it feels like, I haven't read, I haven't had time to read anything, but I'm like are they upset I guess they're all fake anyway. they're not real. Or maybe she's real, mayaybe she's a real girl I don't But it says here, quote, Celler Blade Blood Rain marks the next chapter in the cllaimed action Adventure franchise being developed by the original team et in the same universe as Stellarblade, the next installment continues the story behind the events of the first game, introducing a new protagonist, Eve and expanding the world in a bold new direction. While the project is still early in development, Shifup has made incredible progress and is looking forward to sharing more details when ready The team is hard focused on building upon the stylish action world buildilding and core elements that fans have adored from Stellar Blade, while evolving the universe. in ambitious new ways There's really no other information other than the trailer, which is fairly extensive along along with some art and screenshots Um I'm looking forward to this. I think it looks awesome. I thought the original Stelbade was fantastic. I think a lot of people are fascinated. I know I'm fascinated by like will the willill they won't they with Sony and like PlayStation exclusivity. We know that they're publishing it themselves, and they said in their most recent fiscal report that they are going to try to launch it everywhere. I just wonder what that means again, by the time this game comes out m You could imagine for instance, maybe them trying to sneak it on Switch two or something, didid Stellar Blade onene come to Xbox? I'm not sure. Why you look that up? I'll say this trailer was great I really like that it looks very different in terms of its environments, like Stellar Blade onene is very wasteland U very sparse environment, whereereas this one you're in this very grungy looking super futuristic Cyberpunk esque city And the other thing too is this combat being hand to hand combat is prettyrety dang cool. So Celler blade wom' great U I'm the real gooner here because I have the stellar Blade platinum. how much I like the game is rare for me. It is to get platinum. so I'm very excited about this And then we have And I am too. be eager about that. probably what twenty nine maybe something for that. twenty eight maybe Yeah. fifty two is Stree Fighter six not usually very interesting to us except for the fact that they've added TIFa from Final Fantasy seI to the game or they're going to. that will come in early twenty twenty seven. They announced three other characters as well, Yasmine coming summer Arggin coming Autumn and Bosh coming later after Tifa. So it'll go Yasmin Argent Tifa Bosh in the release order for for year four of Street fighter six which has already been out for a long time and has done very well. People were really excited to see Tifa there. It's the Squarex is becom a little more flexible and it's interesting to see how incorporated into the street fighter universe Wh is a little weird. What do you think Yeah, I What's Brad saying that they really have wanted her in Teken for a while Yeah, she almost makes more sense in Teken, to be honest, like the way she the way she dresses and Yeah all the rest. Well And I'm trying to remember There was another Was't Noctis from Final Fantasy Xteen in Teken at some point? So Squareanx is kind of willing to float around. but I mean it appears to me as someone's in second seven Okay I knew a kick So they did get one at some point, but they' they didn't get their girl Tifa. So I can understand being upset So but yeah, square being friendly brringing over that character. It was a nice little warm up for what we got next The final game is, as you said, fifty three, Final Fantasy seven Revelation This is the long awaited third and final Iteration in the Final Fantasy seven rememake Saga. And they've announced that it's going to come to everything at the same time. So no more PlayStation exclusivity for this as was the case with Final Fantasy remake and rebirth, which is fine. I don't really give a shit They're set to release it in spring twenty seven, which is exciting, no specific release date yet I was excited. they did a little cop out at the show. I thought it was a nice little stage stage craft because they had them on and I was saying like he's there. like what they for the capapom, I'm like there he is and then he comes back on stage which I thought was really cool. So Um They write in the press release, quote Cloud Strife and his loyal companions face world that teeters on the brink of anniilation Grieving a beloved ally and with their neemesis ofeperoth nearing Godhood The party takes to the skies aboard the airship highigh wind in a race against time to stop meteor. the ultimate destructive magic and total obliteration of the planet. Final FantasyIven Revolion delivers the unforgetable breathtaking finale to one of the most ambitious projects in video game history and the culmination. of thirty years of Final Fantasy seI storytelling In the revealed trailer, the party sets off across a world without boundaries The entire planet is freely explorable via the iconic Highway airship players drop in v parachute anywhere's Farry Seamlessly transitioning from air to land With meteor descending and enormous weapons unleashing terror, the planet's conflicts are many, and the party will need to divide and conquer Choose where to go, who to help and in what order as the planet itself fights for survival makeake one last stand alongside a beloved cast of legendary heroes making decisions along the journey that can impact aspects of their stories Customized combat by switching between real time action and tactical mode in the series acclaimed hybrid battle system, now expanded. perfected with new playable characters and powerful new abilities Looks really great. It sounds like maybe they're introducing a bit of choice I don't know how that's going work. I wonder if they're really kind of overselling that Otherwise, I'm super excited. I don't really even want tona see anything else They showed a lot of the weapons, which is cool. I mean, that's a huge part the end of the game the H wind obviously the party fighting a lot of Vincent, a lot of Sid Yeah job system. And the job system, that's right. Yeahep, which is which is cool So I was saying on the stream, I really feel like they've done a great job of differentiating the three games. We haven't played the thir g, We don't know exactly how it' going to turn out, but They do seem separate and distinct from each other. They're not like one big thing that was squished together. They have such different DNA and I really like that they're doing that. Yeah I the thing that immediately intrigued me and in the press release here is just that The fact that you can fly around in the highwind and then fortnite jump out and drop in. ss fun Thinking about the trilogy now as a whole, the first Final Fantasy VI remake is very overall very linear experience. There's a couple points where you can kind of branch off and do different things, but Certainly not an open world game by any means. then you get to rebirth and it is much, much more open, but it still is like segmented open world levels, like very, very large open world levels that are segmented This it sounds like they're evolving to like a full blown open world approach, which is really exciting because I was There was a little bit of concern for me that After rebirth I don't know. I got this feeling that they were kind of like, yeah, we need to We're going to get going on this really fast. We're not going to We're going to use rebirth as the base to kind of evolve. And so I was I guess I was lightly concerned that we were just going to get like Rebirth. But the next story, like the next part of the story, but the mechanics and the way the game played and the feature set would be the same. But that clearly isn't the case showing that adding this job system, adding with this open world aspect lookooks like a pretty significant evolution of it. And yeah, the Vincent gameplay look sick. So I this is probably going to be the new most anticipated game for the time being. outside of Judas but Give us a day. L let us. I can't be I can't be excited for Judas constantly. att this point it's too bad. I my balls can't handle. He's too much s too much for very much Well that's what we had. thought it was a great showcase. I really enjoyed it. There a lot of things to look forward to, if you like video games. If you don't like video games, probably not many things for you to look forward to All right, so we'll segue back into the show. We've recorded a bunch of other stuff. I mean, there's still so much of show left to go. And for the Xbx S showowcase, which will have a bunch of playlaysttation stuff at it, we'll just do that next week So This episode will go live just a couple hours probably after we Stop here being had it Dustin, thank you for being here. I appreciate you. Let's back the rest of We're coming back in from the summer game Fest thing. shouldhould we do one? I assume we will shows suppos to be two hours long Man, I'll tell you Ingalactics look pretty good I think it's going to really surprise everyone I wonder how many of those we nail and we don't we don't get when I when I rob half hal I don't know if we've nailed. I feel like it's always been a miss. De Lg there. Very well All right. We got an interesting letter here that I thought I would use to go off of for this next story, which is a bit of a niche story that we can talk about briefly, but something I'm quite excited Corey Vlat wrote and said, Hey, Jents Do you think Sony purposely keeps the store horribly unorganized and bloated Trying to browse the state of to playay sale is extremely cbersome, as well as listed as well as well as games are listed multiple times for various itions and then there are DLC listings mixed in as well DTA five itself has four pages in a row on the app because of the game and shark cards, same goes for the sports games Combine this with the avalanche of games released every day and it becomes a slog to find something without specifically searching for it How does this benefit them What's stopping them from having a single card for every game on sale instead of listing every single page associated with one Thanks guys, I'll go hang hang myself len please don' David Carndine, Carndine, right? That's guine A So that is weird and it is annoying It's been a thing since the PS three. I don't know why they do that. I assume it's becausecause everything's on sale. Some people are going to be interested in that. I mean, if you're a grand autoto fan seeing the shark cards whatever on sale, it's probably going to be a huge thing. So I understand You think they would give you a way. and they do. can you can use the search tools to narrow out platforms and things you want pricing and all the rest There are two things becausecause we got a couple letters about this and I want to reiterate this because I thought I said it but guess I didn't And I think it might be fixed On PSN, you can't find Mina the Hollower if you search for a Mina You have to search for Min of the Hollower, or you have to search for Hollower I think this was fixed But it's true, one hundred percent Um, at least it was for like a week. So I wanted to throw that out there in case you're having difficul finding it. And someone wrote in about that we were going to use this but we've been going long, so I don't want to get too deep into the weeds But I thought it would be interesting to show this. So We've cited this website delisted games. com, which is a pretty cool website. it just Chronicles, games that were on various platforms that no longer are on those digital storefronts anymore, just a little bit of a Pndium And they report that it seems like Sony is kind of going through and killing these these shovelware developers now We had noted that back in it was back in March and April And they write here no extra games in CGILab and go game in VRC Forage and welding Bte. so five stududios all had their games removed from PlayStation Network, which was thousands of games. And I think they've gone after a lot of the larger targets of shovelware and the trophy kind of games, and now they're going after the smaller ones So they write here webnetic is the next publisher catalog to be wiped off the Paysttation store and they write quote Publisher Web Netic has either been informed by Sony ahead of banned from the Playsttation store or they're electing to bow out voluntarily before the banhammer comes down on them The studio announced on Twitter on Monday that they are on our final days on Playsttation in quotes. suggesting that their remaining roster of one hundred and seventy two titles will soon be delisted and their tweet read quote as our journey on PlayStation comes to an end. We want to thank everyone who played our game, supported our releases and joined us along the way These are our final days on PlayStation. So if you ever wanted to check out our games, now is the perfect time to do so before they're gone. But this isn't the end for us We're continuing our journey on Xbox Nintendo and Steam, and we have exciting projects ahead. Wellll have fun with that over there. So one hundred, So their games are going to get delisted soon. And then Another company Akintha They write is the next PlayStation publisher to announce their upcoming removal from the Playsttation store And they write on the website quote foollowing yesterday's announcement about web Netic, itears that Sony now be informing multiple Playsttation publishers about their upcoming catalog delistings this month Early this morning, developer Akintha announced on Twitter and in a reported email that their forty seven published titles will be removed from the Playsttation store at the end of this month Bye Yeah. how like forty L come on man Now they're going after the smaller targets, so it doesn't feel quite as good, but I think it's because there's probably fewer large obvious targets to go after. But they're doing it, guys Like, can you believe it I actually can't I can't believe it to such an extent that I feel like it's something else And it's not that the games are shovelware or trophy games Like that's how like uncertain I am about like It's like when they allowed you to change your name finally on PSN. It's like, really Yeah. You almost couldn't believe it And we've been bitching about this for so long And they really are doing something about it And they're getting they should have never been on the store to begin with these people, but that it's good that they're getting removed. And I just wanted to shut that out. I don't know if you have anything to say to answer the question from Corey, no, it's not intentional and it looks like they're trying to make things a little easier, which I appreciate. Acording to these guys, Nintendo and Xbx,e Steams not going to care but Nintendo Xox don't care And as I understand, Switch is getting bad Um which is the way I don't I just don't know what Nintendo gains from that. I just I'm confused by it. I know how the system works. Like I know how much money everyone's making. I know like how many copies these games typically sell? It's like, what are you really getting from fucking your shit up like this? It's sad. So wanted to throw that out there Vy exciting news webs We don't cite this website very often, but WCF tech old website writes, NCisSoft pushes Horizon steel frontiers to one H twenty twenty seven after hinting at a twenty twenty six launch. So they went through their financials over at NCsoft, of course, a South Korean mostly MMO studio They're making u the upcoming MMO RPG Horizon Steel Frontiers, which is apparently only coming to PC and mobile It was originally supposed to come out potentially in twenty twenty six. One H twenty twenty seven, of course, meets first half. So pushed out to no later than probably this time next year This game looks cool. Dustin could they be u C just give them time to bring it to Paysttation, which is what they should be doing the entire time Maybe but probably not. I still I mean, obviously the gam' is going to be available here, but it really feels like it is a game for another market being so mobile focused, but Yeah, I'm curious about This one is especially with the contrast of how people are feeling about Horizon hunters gathering. So We'll have to wait a little longer Let's see here, what else by the way, if Steel Frontiers comes to Csole, I'll play it. I'm just not playing it on fucking purple Gotta be dream Yeah What do you guys think about this? Push square reported this They write widespread confusion forces Amazon to make statement about future James Bond games So As you guys know Well why would you know this Amazon acquired MGM during the development of dz zer seven first light This means that they own James Bond now, but they obviously let the game go on and whatever. It's not unlike what happened with Bethesda when Microsoft bought them and yet we still got Dath loooop and Gost where Tokyo was Paysttation exclusives, because those deal timed exclusives becausecause those deals were made or whatever So In a weird statement and this was in an interview with Polygon, Jeff Gatdis, who's the head of Amazon Gaming, the general manager of gaming He says the following He says that while Amazon quote didn't have the full rights to first lightight James Bond game, any sequels will be, quote, done by MGM and theoretically by Amazon Game Studios,quote It's not suggested that IO interteractive will be a replace this developer, just that publishing duties will move over to Amazon, IO' self published z zo seven first L.e. We did not make first light. We do have some stake in it because we now own the IP, but that IP acquisition happened after the first light IO deal was already done and quote P Pushware writes the hope is that Amazon won't interfere what Io Interactive wants to do next with his vision of James Bond. So this confused some people because it's like, what are you saying? And I agree with their, you know, Stehven Talby over there wrote this and I agree with his interpretation that what they're saying is that they're going publish the games. I don't think that They'd be fucking stupid enough especially because Amazon is so inept with video games that they would get in the way this thing has been hand delivered to them Basically, they didn't have to do anything So I don't think they're stupid enough do that, but I can understand people's misinterpretation They gave a comment then the VGC that might make things worse, but I don't know they say quote Amazon MGM holds the rights to any future James Bond video games But it's still too early to discuss future projects. We have a great relationship with IOo Interactive and are proud of what we've accomplished together on Dz z seven first Light and the way you accomplished it Our partners at IO will reveal more about z zer seven firstirst lightight in the ne future, and we're looking forward to sharing what's next and quote How do you read that, Chris Why wouldn't the game just sold two point two million copies in twenty four hours, I think Why wouldn't you just be brave enough to say like, We hope that we can do more with IO in the future Yeah, it isz I want I think it's two point two million in the first week. Oh first part. I think the first twenty five four hours I think was one point five, whichich is greatkay pardon. So don't Yeah you save me You say me The u the rare Chris Sve The uh I don't know It's weird It is weird to word it that way. sure. L I don't know why you would not be clear about it. First of all, what the fuck is your intention really? like to not have them do this I guess maybe it is So here's the thing that could make this make sense. Maybe IO doesn't want to That's what I was thinking. I don't because They made look, I we're going to talk about it in what we're playing I think it's exceptional Maybe they're like Yeah, we built this thing Uh it's it was a fun thing to do Back to h Hitman R like maybe like I don't know. L maybe maybe or something else, like I don't. likeike, uh What were do you have something to say? My angle was like they licensed it but published it themselves. So I would assume that means they took a greater financial risk in order to hopefully reap greater financial rewards And so now they're going to have to negotiate with Amazon in terms of like a publishing deal And they might just be like, well We don't really want to make it for you in that way. L we want to be able to Does that make sense, Colonin in terms of like a money perspective? Yeah, I was thinking too to that point that It might it could be a relationship thing too. like they made the deal with just different people. They might not like Amazon. I mean They might not want to work with them or like there could be yeah, so it could the money situation and Like you were saying the the idea that they're licensing and then acting a self publisher, It does seem to say when you read the verbiage, which is probably pretty deliberate by Amazon, especially in the statement It's like, we're going to publish these games moving forward. Like that's not even a choice. And so you could be right in saying like, well, this isn't really worth it worth it for us to continue on. although Dustin It conflicts with what we were saying earlier about like wanting to invest in a place at a time and then reap more rewards out of it. It should be easier for them to make a bond game now And it would be a shame for them to not do it I just my biggest concern here is just that And I actually saw our friend Rick Hog, lawyer and a friend of the show our legal analyst. He had said this on Twitter and he's absolutely right. It's like Amazon, he was said it much more cleverly, but the The point was basically like Amazon has some fucking audacity Considering like how badly their gaming situation has gone. like Remember lumber yard and all that kind stuff Wh They' wasted probably billions of dollars at this point U, and it's crazy like it goes to show you that no money doesn't solve all your problems actually Like it's money won't get a game out the door. They just sold that game to Uisoft By the way, because like one of the big remember it was like March of Giants or whatever, I think it was called Oh yeah, you're right. offloaded it. That was like the only game that they one of the only games they made that anyone gave a fuck about So they've been delivered this embryonic thing of a new zerozero seven standard for a very important IP for them for MGM and God if they don't see the wisdom in trying to keep this relationship going. So you guys could be right. It could be more on IOS part, but I feel like that would be such a waste too would yeah it's just you did it. You did it, like make a sequel. att least make one more And I've heard no clear I want to be clear, I definitely wanted other one. I think this because this can really only get better, I think U, And so Yeah, I mean, it's ultimately it would be wise of them to do that You know, maybe they if they if they're not feeling. Here's what I think. If they really don't think that if it's up to Amazon, they're like, you're not doing it anymore. That's insane. If they want to just leave the IP though, like I mean, there's not really much you can do about that And so, you know They should do whatever they want. But like another z zo seven would slap. I I'm such a new fan. of this IP or whatever. and it's because of this game really thatakes me excited to into do. I'm gonna do. I'm to start playing it next. because I'm not going be on the review discussion for it almost certainly so I can just I can just play it You know, I just think I So I'm in a platum Serros today, probably then'll move on toouble seven IO has to make up the money for Minds eye Oh, I wonder what they lost. I wonder I wonder what that financial deal was because they they were like really the distributing publisher, right? Like they came in late costing something. And they wanted it out of the deal. which they wouldn't have wanted out of if They got remember they even cancellled like there was supposed be a hitman crossover and stuff, I think, rightight? And like they canceled all it. So They smarted Yeah, get him as far away from that, IP as possible. agent forty seven. Aent forty seven doesn't need that heat All right, let's see here This was exciting to Maddie this next piece of news Digital eclips and A Tari Aari of course bought digitalclips and owns them now And Digital Clips, of course is a very well known, very well respected, retro developer of compilations They announce Toy Story Titles, Toy St story retro Roundup N Toy Story three compleomplete edition. w different games here. bothoth will be on PlayStation five. I don't think there oh, there will be PS four versions as well So they write here, quote, digital eclipse in Atari today announced two new releases celebrating the thirtiethniversary of Pixar's tooy story franchise Toy Story retetro Roundup, a definitive collection of classic Toy Story Eera games, and Toy Story three compleomplete edition A modern remaster of twenty ten's Toy Story three Digital and physical editions will be released simultaneously for PCN console on october fifteenth a day after My birthday The Toy Story three compleplete edition seems to be the more exciting one for most people. and this was an exciting one for Maddie. This wasn't this the game? This was his best game yet or something like that at one of our live shows. Very funny so very exciting for him, made just for him. And that of course originally came the PS three in twenty thousand ten And then the one that's more interesting than me, I never played these games, but this seems much more enticing to me as a retro gamer is. Toy Story retro roundup This is a compilation of the original Toy Story game on SNES, I want to say. and then Toy Story two, Bzz Lightyar to the Rcue which is a PS one game, Toy Story two which is a PS one game Buzzlight year of Star commommand which is a PS one game, I think in Toy Story Eraser, which is also probably a PS one game along with a bonus game of buug's life. Also a PS one. I think some of these might be game boy iterations as well U reewind and retry instantly, save and loadw etera, et cetera eta. I have no memory of. I didn't play these gam. didid you guys play these games as youth Oh yeah. Yep. yeah I played Toy Story on Sega Genesis Growing up a lot of the game certain parts of it are hard as shit and it's really unique because F first few levels are two D Uh like pretty like platformer Then there's like top down mode where you're controlling the RC car. There's like a first person mode. O a first person level where you're in like the inner workings of the arcade machine carrying those little alien guys around. It's a pretty weird ass game It's cool. And then Toy Story two on PS one also reallyally awesome game. I don't know about Buzz light your Star commommand and Toy Story Eeraser, but U I am pumped and dude I love that they're tacking on Bgs life. They're like, well That's a game that I also played on PS one that is I don't know if it's good but I played it when I was a kid. So the fact they're like this game is never going to have a chance to exist outside of this. just tack it on there L. So I'm pretty punped about bugs life too. Yeah, I'm weirdly I'm weirdly stoked about this entire thing. I got to be realative Like just because again, these are really old game. I never played Toy Story three. that was like a little bit because that came out, I think I came out around like the time I was in high school. I'm pretty sure. like I didn't I was out of that phase really for me. Toy Story two, awesome fucking game. I never played the original Toy Story game that Gameboy or is it or what is it not Gameoy? the? What's it on? SAS? Yeah, the original one is SNAS and Genesis I think. and,ah, Dustin you said you played on Genesis. And that what you say in the press release that it's the SAS versions, which I thought is was interesting Yeah, that is interesting. I I only played Toy Story two It sounded sarcastic, that is it Toy Story two, I played the shit out of Buzz Lightyar, I feel like I remember that game. I feel like I had it. I don't That was definitely the one I spent the least time playing. Toy Story Eeraser, I played the shit out of. Oh and I I wouldn't it's look, it's not, it ain't crashedam racing or Mario Kard or anything, but it is a fun weird What I remember about it is it controls very distinctly. Like it's a very weird kind of bouncy It's like a bouncy floaty racer. it's kind of it's kind of fun and the tracks are really cool. I remember the soundtrack being fun and a bug's life I played the shit out of too. just because like again, PS one I was like around that age' like a lot of really weird platformers. I have a nostalgic connection to that bug's L game. I don't know if it's any good, but I feel like It's one of those games where like the second I started up, I'll be like, I'm just kind of happy. because it's so weird. I like First of all These games have no reason to come back. You know what I mean? Like there's no real justifiable reason for this to be ported forward. So the fact that they are is like really exciting to me because it means like there's a lot of things on the table that otherwise, in my mind were completely off the table Um I I love this shit I think I've identified why these games are happening. likeike I think I know the source of them. And I'm being serious is that I believe There's a guy that used to work at Sony actually named Joh Drake. Do you know Do that name sound familiar to you guys? And he's like the marketing or he's like the licensing guy at Sony and he's like a real gamer or gamers's gamer. 'sarried to Andrea Renee, if you know her Oh U and I really think he's the one facilitating all this stuff because there's a lot of shit coming out not only for Disney, but for Marvel Like when you look at a lot of the stuff it's like, wow, likeike there's that Marvel Xen, like the NES games and silverurf and all this weird stuff It's like, wow, And it it's definitely a dude who knows, shit like knows that this is probably not a big money maker, but valuable in its own way to do you know, as an external thing. It it's I feel like I would be shocked if it wasn't him Yeah. Yeah. there's also probably part of it that Tory Story five comes out Oh for sure. no, for sure for sure. with Toy Story. I mean, it makes sense, but what I'm saying is that like they have been very aggressive at Disney and Marvel of just doing licensing of going back to old games, of reviving things, things they never did, ever And so yeah, no, it makes sense for that. I mean, there's certainly a point to it, I imagine. And shout out to Wad, you know, Atari's been We have a little bit of a bias because we love Jason Pelansky, there being insanely aggressive in this new form They're buying a lot of stuff I think digital Eclipse was an incredible purchase. It like line it's like when they bought Night Dive and another incredible purchase. leans into the whole like we're retro. like we do old things And yeah Dude digal ecips I mean, listen to all the since twenty fifteen that they've done Mega Man Legacy Coection, the Dney afternoon collection, the Street fighter thirtieth anniversary collection the SNK fortieth anniversary collect The Samurai showhdown collection, the space jam actually the new space jam g in twenty one that's interesting TMNT, the Kaabbunga collection. The Atari fiftty anniversary celebration, which is probably where they made their Um relationship with them The wizardry remake, the making of Karateca The Lama the LamaSoft game, you played that, right len, do you play the Tetris Yeahetr. They did Worm's Amageddon anniversary, Tetris Forever The Mighty Morph from Power Rangers rerelease, Yu Gio eararly Days collection, Golden T Arcade collection, Mortal Kombat L legacy collection, the Rayman thirteth anniversary edition It's like dam at stuff Damn. Yeah Let's this' such a What a weird list of games been. That's so exciting. I love shit like this. I love when they like is because you expect things like Like Res and evvil on PS one, that's an old game, right? But like I'm never really worried about having access to this. Like that will be on modern store phones. Like it was on PS three You know, I'm not worried about it, but like a bug's life What Yeah I't know, that's just cool to be because there's a lot of weird games that. Like Iember Eper'sew grove was kind of a weird weirdly good game. a lot believe Hercules, the two D. Yeah, Hercules, the two D game. Like there's a lot of good stuff from that era. so like seeing this erhaps it's mplaced h Be like who the fuck knows how relevant those games will be to even anybody. I don't know. This is like a glimmer of hope that I didn't have before where it's like, oh, these weird eclectic PS one games might come back. in some way, shape or form. this is great news. I'm G to be all over this ill weird weirdly enough In terms of Toy Story three, Colin, who developed Toy Story three I don't know Avalanche Avalanche the Utah company Yes. Yeah. cool. who now went on to make hog leg. That makes sense. I guess they were Disney Interactive at the time in the toybx mode is what spawned the Disney Infinity stuff Interesting. And then eventually in Harllvward's leegacy, there's a whole room of requirement. You wouldn't know what that is, Colin. Maybe Chris, you do. But there's like a toy box type mode, but in the world of Harry Potter for Hogwarts Legacy So Interesting lineage. said to me like I was a loser, like you wouldn't know what it was. You wouldn't know what the fucking room of requirement is, Cin become some sort of fucking piece of garbage You're not a good millennial No, I'm an elderillennial. but yeah, I'm not a good millennial because that's right Harry Potter, it's totally my age group too, but ye through Asapan, but not and I really remember any of the panest. It's a huge surprise. All, games industry.iz wrote didnt wr in. I went to their website and I looked at it They wrote the California State Assembly passes AB one nine twenty one stop killing games prrotect our Games Act. So they report that the California legislature voted forty three to sixteen on a floor vote for this bill and I went and read the bill. So here's here's what it says Qote, The following shall apply only to digital game first available for purchase or rerelease for purchase on or after january first, twenty twenty seven. Sixty days before a digital game operator ceases to provide services necessary for their ordinary use of a digital game, the operator shall communicate all the following information to purchasers and prospective purchasers of the digital game date on which services necessary for the ordinary use of the digital game will cease, any services that will no longer be provided by the operator, any game features that will no longer be available to the purchaser. any known security risks that may result from the cessation of services how the purchaser can continue to use the digital game or obtain a refund pursuant to paragraph two which we'll get to B, a digital game operator shall communicate the information required by subparagraph A by doing both of the following nototifying purchasers directly through the operator's digital game putting something in a hot fix probably to post when you turn it on and I've been posting the information publicly on the operator's interternet website. Beginning on the date, a digital game operator ceases to provide services necessary for the ordinary use of the digital game The operator shall provide the purchaser with one or more of the following A, a version of the digital game that can be used by the purchaser independent of services controlled by the operator. B. patch or update to the purchaser's version of the digital game that enables its continuue to use independent of services controlled by the operator. see a refund and the amount equal to the full purchase price paid for the digital game byy the purchaser. Three, beginning on the date a digital game operator ceases to provide services necessary for the ordinary use of the game The operator shall not sell lease or otherwise distribute a version of the game that cannot be used by a purchaser independent of the services controlled by the operator So This and there are exceptions by the way, like subscriptions don't count. Um free to play games don't count and so on and so for. So This sounds impossible to me And I think they're so first of all, and I think Hogan was talking about this is it was being badly reported because they're being like the United States voted. It's like, no, California voted. California is a substantial part of the United States, a very important part of theited States, and the hub of American game development So it's very important that their legislatures that vote for something like this, but this seems like an impossibility I don't don't know what People don't get about that That like that you can't I don't think you can do this R? Like you're gonna make like some other ped version of the game that works offline. Like what if it like what if it was Mag or something like that ike what would you do with runun around the map by yourself I guess I'm just confused about what people's expectations are about the ephemeral nature of these games or the potential, let's say the potential ephemerale. And by the way, I wouldn't mind if there was some sort of even like some sort of ratio or some sort of formula where it's like after a year, the discount like you get you refund this much. afterfter two years, you refund this much. So it gets to like three or four years and it's like, all right, it's In other words it stops for p playing game too soon, perhaps But this seems onerous to me. What do you think? I don't know, there are many games that I've So Destiny's a really good example, right? where like I You lo in Destiny and then you can't connect to the server and then you just you can't play the game at all. Um I think that's kind of crazy because like the game itself doesn't feel like something that necessily like you play it and it doesn't feel like the game can't function without I don't know. I can't explain it exactly, but like it feels like I should be able to run around Destiny even if nobody can join me You know what I mean? Like it just kind of feels like this should be possible. I don't really understand why it's not Um There are c games obvly like Mag or whatever where it's like all the whole point that you play with people, and then you connect with people online or whatever But yeah, I should be able to run around that map kind of doing nothing. Like I don't know I do think that there's some level. there's like a nuance here. I don't know if every game can do this obviously. And I think that there's like a U definitely a bit of an overstepping happening. But I do find the excuse of like, o, you need to be connected to play this. Like what about I don't know, like what about suicide squad? You know what I mean?? Like what about that necessitates connection to a server. Like I don't really get it This is a single player game that just happens to require me to be online Yeah. That's what's confusing to me. Yeah, I agree with you. I think there I think it's gone too far with a lot of this stuff. a lot of it just feel like because they' obsession with telemry or they're offloading shit. you know, and like things that they don't really necessarily want to talk about or admit, but I also think it's first of all Mag reference very timely Eremely timelyag reference The game's only sixteen years old and it has been shut off for like, fourteen years, but we're definitely going to bring that up Um, Well what do you think Dwin I In some ways, I feel like in terms of the needs to be done to a game I'm not nearly smart enough or knowledgeable enough to know