Arrests and Future of Everest Tourism

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Sometimes we hate them. We'll see along the way. I know some of you guys are gonna like that my voice sounds like this. I' been traveling, y'all, the Scam godess live tour was lit clearly ' your girl can't even use her throat no more I don't like how that sounded, but anyways, congregation y'all already know, I'm very what Yes, excited thrilled to l it today, we have an icon on the show. honey. She is a drag legend and the winner of RuPaul's Drag race all stars ten. Last fall, she wrapped the Hocus Pocus live tour across North America. and not only did she star in it, but she also wrote, produced, and directed it. She authored her debut memoir Cookbooks, Southern fried Sa, I know that's right. And you've seen her on Netflix Dumplin, Disney's Hoccus Pkasoo and the feature, The Legacy of Cloudy Falls. She's busy. And you'll be able to catch her in the newest funny film marking the first ever theatrical feature from the RuPaul's Drag race universe. Stop that train. Yes Please welcome Be Qeen, Gingerman to the show. Hi, Ginger. Hello, how are you? I'm doing wonderful. clelearly you are quite busy. I'm glad that we could grab you. I feel like you're Well I love being grabbed. I will take any opportunity I can. I feel like we had to grab you. I guess like we waited, we were never gonna see her Well, I don't know, some people think they see me too much. so. Oh, no such thing. not with me. No. Oh my gosh, congratulations on all of this wonderful work that you've been up to. This is so dope. Thank you. I mean, was I was raised where idle hands are the devil's work, you know. So I try to stay as booked, blessed and busy as possible We share that in common. That's why I know. I' rag it. I've been keeping up with you on the internet too. There's a reason that your voice sounds like that Oh, I forgot it's an instrument and I was hooting and hollering. We was hooting and hollering so much. Hey, sometimes you gotta use that instrument for good and bad. Rre. Okay, listen Were not even going get through that. But We ask everyone on this podcast now their opinions about scams or just things that are technically legal right now, but we don't know how we feel about them So I want to ask you in this segment, is it a scam? Is it a scheme or is it a real thing? A scam being something that should be illegal and is like, you know, people are being ripped off. A scheme is like it feels illegal, but P p the rest we just g. Weill it happen. And then a real thing is something that we think is like legit and we find some value in it. So those are the categories. And so we're going to get Ginger's opinions all throughout. So Ginger, the first one, just because we're coming off of this season Or maybe some of us are about to go to jail for this season, myself included. Tax accountants, scam scheme or real thing? I think a real thing. you know, as I've shifted tax brackets throughout my career, I don't think that I would have been able to navigate that without the know how and help from other people. And believe me a cheap queen. I love beauty on a budget. I love a bargain. So I've tried to go online and do it myself. But I just get so confused. I can't figure it out. I need somebody to take me by the hand and say, no, no, no, no, no, this is what you do. Right. I mean, I would have to agree, obbviously I have an accountant as well, but for me it still feels kind of like A scheme because it's like a middleman that we created because we made the tax system so complicated so that Okaykay, yes they can make all of this money. Like there was supposed to be direct file turbo tax lobbied against that hard b because they every were like, uh you can't just get on a government website and get a government your tax money. You need us. You need nebulous jargon. you need the fear of Wesley Snight's jail hanging over here is like. So we can get your money because' like it gives middleman. And like yes, when you get into a certain bracket and you start trying to hide assets, it makes a little more sense. I mean, not hide assets. I mean, just like, you know, like You don' know what I meant Sle like right off your eyelashes Arenret you using them for work, Jren I am, I am it, but that's the thing too, right? Like when I started getting into this, I didn't know if I could write off eyelashes or what's the difference between wriding off an eyelash and having a gown made or anything like that, you know? So it's like There's a lot of nuance to it. and I agree with you. I think it is all created to feed into that system to make us think we need them a little bit more than we actually do. So they could take more of the money, but I also know that I would be completely lost the guidance of somebody. I'm literally having anxiety right now about it. We do. like so Girl. and I am out of out of van right now, so let's No Oh Lord, you just won't got to take deep breaths in a benadrel. o you can't have anxiety when you sleep. Oh, I got asthma. I can't take a deep breath if I wanted to. So it's okay. Mine is like only like Allergy related though, likeike a cedar tree could kill me, whichich feels very sad ' I was super dead in the eighteen hundreds. L a tree could kill me. That's. I think we all would have been dead in the eighteen hundreds by now. Well, somebody want to make it L, wasn't the life expectancy then? like you were old at twenty Yeah, it was like thirties. It was. people were like, let's go back to these old turpentine treatments. I was like, do y'all not remember the life expectancy? No, no, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm about to be forty two. I'm happy where I am. I feel like my life is actually finally starting which I love. That's the something that I think that people don't talk about enough.' like as you get older, things get easier. for the most part you Well, I think we understand them a little bit better. Yeah, how before. So it's not as like jarring. you're not making the same decisions you made the first time you saw everything. Oh, w, dad So the next one, scam scheme or real thing, loyalty programs. So if you get like a little punch card if you go somewhere, the t one's free or like airline loyalty. It could be any kind of loyalty programs. What do you think? Sam scheme or real thing I think that it's a scheme. I don't think it's a scam. and I mean, I do see the value in these programs because I have benefited from some of them, especially like, you know, I'm a million Miler Delta pllatinum medallion member and have been for years. Yeah I'm sure you got all the diamond and Rubies. But the problem with it is is that It's accessible to so many people that once everybody starts getting the same benefits, then they move the goal posts again. Yeah. So then nobody gets them and you have to start working even harder to reach what you already had. So it feels like it's this endless cycle of you can have this, but you have to keep working harder for it. You got to give us more and we're going to give you less And we're going to get into that exact point in a second with the next one. but to hop back onto like the loyalty programs, just in general, I find that they're also so emotionally manipulative because it's like I have brand loyalty to this company. And so then when I'm like locked in to like, you know whatever this punch card is or whatever this little letter on my flight chair is or whatever the hell, you know I get for you know, only shopping here, then when a better deal is ar like around, I'll go for the more expensive place because I'm like, oh, well, this is where I'm gonna get my points. But it's like, this is cheaper. I should probably go with the cheaper thing and just not be loyal. See, and I'm the girl that will always go with the cheaper thing. I don't care how loyal I've been to you The only place that I think I am like legit loyal loyal to because of the loyalty card is Wawa I lovea. You can get anything there and their loyalty program actually like really works because if you have the little card, I mean I'm a smoker. I know I got asthma. I know I got problems, but I do smoke. and I get a discount on my cigarettes every time I buy them there. I get free coffee one day a week. What city do you live in I'm in Orlando Oh Okay, becauseuse I' supped to say you just get waaz are Like Well but the thing about that is they all popped up like overnight about a decade and maybe a decade and a half ago. We I had heard about them for years. saw that's aBA thing. That's like a Yeah. And then like one popped up and then within six months they were everywhere. I love that. I love aaa, Gotta have a wa But I do feel like out of all of the rewards programs I've ever been a part of, that's the one that actually seems to benefit me every time. Jiner for being so glamorous, it's very, very funny to me that she's like the only one I got is wa wa. I mean, I get my like VIB Sephora. I thought you were gonna. I get my Sephora points. I do get my ulta points And I go to both of those, of course for likeashion different things. I don't know does she en count as a fashion house Technically it is a house and they are making something. Yes, they're making fools of all of us. That's what they're doing Now that's a scam right there. That a scam where they post the most beautiful picture in the world. And you know in your head, you're like, there is no way I am getting this couture gown full of ostrich feathers and rhymeses for eleven doars ninety fiveents. But there's that part of your brain that goes, maybe, just maybe this is the one time. No, it is never the time In the factory, like they just really ate that up. You know, they had a good day, they had extra rid that they just went No, they did not ever. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, like I get it when people are buying t shirts or very, very tight dresses or whatever, you know stuff there I get that stuff, but whenever it is something that I'm looking at and I'm like quality and the time it would take to make this. L you should have known better. Yeah. All right, I mean, at least I don't know, if you're gonna AI the image that you give us, I mean, at least make it a little more realistic, just just type in your prompt like make it good, but not too good. Make it if we're charging eleven ninety five, maybe make it look like we should have charged. Why can't you just go back to the old fashioned wavays and like go get a picture from the real website and they pretend that that's yours. We don't need to use AI to do crime. I want us to get back on the old fashioned wave. We don't need to use AI for anything Exactly. And I love the times that people use AI to like generate images of me. Uh I always look like I always look like a seventy year old Hispanic woman. Nothing made you look like your Landa Sal Divar. That's not right.. Well yes, but there are times I mean, sometimes it's like really beautiful and I can see like, okay, maybe that's my eye or maybe that's my cheek or my lips or whatever. But there are other times where I'm like, what does What does this artificial intelligence think I am? What does it think I look like? Well, it'll combine a lot of different images into one. So that's why it ends up looking very strange because it's reaching out from different like photos sources and putting them all into one face. That's why it's like super weird. It's always weird. and that's the thing I like I don't I don't see like the benefit of it No, there's no benefit. It's killing the planet and it's starting to create like heat like areas where things are drying out and wildlife is like not being able to find it's killing the planet. It ising my self esteem. Oh my goodness. All of us. It's killing it's not like we were already not getting dumber.ike George Bush said he was going to leave us behind and he definitely did. He was like, sc you And now you got AI slop and chatT making it even worse. noobody wants to know anything anymore. No. and the like the biggest part about that is like, you use it without even realizing it most of the time was like, oh yeah, I'll go in and do a Google search. I had to learn like months after it started happening, you have to hit the to disable the AI prompts for it. Because like I'm going in and I'm doing, okay, who was this actor that was in this movie? And then all of a sudden it's like this whole AI generated Dossier onn this one person, where they were born, how they live, what their personal beliefs are in every movie they've ever been in. I'm like, girl, I just wanted to know the name of that actor.ight. And now it's in our emails too. You're gonna email be like, okay, they talk about some some money, something something Tuesday, something some availability. I'm like I didn't ask you to summarize this. I was gonna open the email But anyways, last scam scheme or real thing House Spirit Airlines Oh Was it a scheme? Like just in general? Was it a scheme Was it a real thing Now that she's gone on to that that's she's become a spirit. She's become a spirit. I don't I mean, I certainly think that it's a real thing. I mean, it had its benefits. I utilized it sometimes. but The problem, o, it's a scheme I'll go with scheme. I was going say. Okay, I'm going to go with scheme because while I mean, yes, if you just need a quick flight and you've got U the clothes on your back and that's all you need to get to and from where you want to go. That's fine for your forty five dollars flight, but whenever you purchase that forty five dollars flight and you show up with your personal overnight bag or a checked luggage and you start realizing there's different rules than every other airline, right? So your bag can't be fifty pounds. It has to be forty pounds And instead of charging you a certain amount like other airlines do for any overages, you're getting charged almost double what you would be just to check that bag on a regular airline or taking like back in the day, a Southwest flight where you get your two bags free or whatever. So then you get on and you're like, okay can I have a diet Coke? And they go, well, yeah, but you got to pay for that Or can I use the bathroom? Yeah, put the quarter in the slot on the side of the door before a seatbelt. Yeah, you got twenty dollars seat bel. Exactly.. So that's what it felt like the few times I took Spirit or allegion or any of the budget airlines. It's like, okay, I see what purpose this serves But I also see how once I am on board and I am a captive audience, cannot escape giving you more money to where I'm actually paying as much, if not more than I would have just to take A Delta or some other airline R that was a little bit more expensive. Now see, I agree with everything that you're saying and that's why it's so conflicting because it is a scheme where like it's almost like Sky Lailway, like okay, yeah, your ticket was thirty nine doll. But then when you get there, they're like, you better be wearing all the clothes you're wearing on the trip all your body right now. And it better not weigh too much because like it encroaches on the seat next to you We are going to charge you for that. We will weigh you. will put you on the baggage weight too to see how much clothing that you got on. Absolutely. And also what it did too was it discompartmented all of these different things that used to just be included in one ticket price, which would like in a way was really great for people who couldn't afford like really expensive flights, had never taken a flight before, maybe last minute flight for bereavement or whatever. Now these people could be like, I can just go with the clothes on my backag. You know, if I'm cool with getting under the plane with the luggage, I can get there for twenty two dollars. L you know, like they gave you two options, right Th The issue is is that Yes, I democratized air travel for people who couldn't afford it. And I thought that was really beautiful. that's kind of was sad, especially because Spirit had never had an injury They've never had anybody die on any of their flights, which I think is amazing. So seeing seventeen thousand employees just lose their jobs, like some of them in the sky is really sad. It is very sad. I mean, that's a whole other story. Right. So I think the service was a scheme because you know if you went to the spirit ticket counter, they everybody who goes to that counter is having the worst day of their life. that point was convinced they was giving the employeee Zanex or something because everybody was so chill. You couldn't tell the spirit employee nothing that was going ruffle them. You could be like, there's a gun Okay, so is you and the gunmen coming on the flight or Yeah and the gun is gonna be an extra fifty dollars. Is that okay? Is that okay? Okay. Yeah. they did not give a fuck. But also other big airlines started to do what they were doing. Like they started to be like, oh, well, you know what? We're gonna American Airlines was the first one We're going to charge for bags. Oh, now like, oh, the drinks are going to be separate. Now Delta has three different econ like they have two no, three different economies. I think there's like economy basic. then there's economy regular and then there's a like comfort Plus they have the gotta getaay fares, which are basic economy lowest base price, but it doesn't include anything. You can't there's no insurance with it. You can't You can't get m flight if you have to, you can't get miles. Yeah, it's like it set such a bad example. It really But of course everybody else starts going Well, I mean, they're still at that point, still in business. so it's working. I guess we can start doing it too. But then what other airlines don't I guess realize is that You're not starting at that base forty nine dollars ticket. R No They'll charge. I mean, well, I mean, well, I guess. but They're charging, you know, a couple hundred bucks for these basic gota getaway fares that include nothing and you've got to add on to it and add on to it. that at that point, it's like, I could have bought just a first class flight and gotten all this stuff for free at this point. plus a meal. But I think their hope is that if you are like most Americans living check to check, then like maybe we didn't have the whole B yeah in the beginning, so you pick little by little, they nickel and dimed you. But they studied Sirits like their customer base to see how much they could get away with with all of us. And now that's why I feel like it's the biggest scheme because flights are ridiculous. Like when Spirit went out of business in the sky, I was on my way to the airport. All of a sudden curiously, my flight was cancellled by Delta And then all the other flights that I could get on were way by twice the price. Really? Yes, Southwest Airlines went up. This is a flight from San Francisco to LA, one way. four hundred dollars. No, no man. Yes. 'causeuse I was in the airport when Spirit was like, Spirit ike I left. Yeah. It caught the spirit. It caught the spirit in the Holy Ghost and left us. left these vultures in hell. But yeah, like I say spirit is a scheme too because the customer service was trash and nickeoling diing people to death is also ass. But at the same time it did open up air travel for people. So RIP, spirit. Yeah, I mean, I remember like Before I was on drag race, I mean, I've been doing drag for twenty five years nows. And there was like I'm glad you think so. But there were there was like at least a good decade that I was traveling on my own dime to go and do pageants and go do out of state bookings that weren't close enough for me to drive to. and Allegion air, which is basically spirit without the big yellow signs, they run a little airport out of Sanford So I was like, well, I guess for, you know, That extra thirty minute time for me to drive over there, it's worth taking this twenty nine dollars flight to go where I have to go. But then when you're traveling with drag, I started realizing, oh my God, I'm literally paying an extra one hundred and fifty dollars just to get all of the things that I need back and forth with me. Oh yeah you got wigs t why could travel, like? No, but it did in certain times.. The wig alone is gonna run you like a hundred dolls. Yeah, it' true. It is very true. It is true. But there were those moments that I had no other option. and it was basically a layaway plan for me because I knew O, if I buy my tickets for these next six gigs on the fourourth of July when they used to do those fourteen dollars each way or whatever it was. Yeah I would just stack up my flights and then save up my money going, okay, I know it's going to be another hundred fifty dollars, but it's not one hundred fifty dollars I have to spend right now and I know I'm going to be able to get there So plluses and minuses, but definitely a scheme. Ooh, it is summertime. And if you live in the US to live it might not be easy, but that is no reason for your wardrobe not to be. Summer is a perfect time to rethink what your clothes are giving for every single day. And that's why you guys know I love Qints. I can't tell y'all how many times I've podcasted on this podcast, talkalking about quQints while wearing quQints, including right now. 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This is where I will regle Ginger with a famous Con Kapper group of criminals will get in our veins all throughout. And today we're going to be talking about a sky high twenty million dollars fraud scheme. So hiking guides, helicopter companies and hospitals near Mount Everest have been poisoning foreign climbers to trigger pricey rescues and collect on their travel insurance So this is Everest I'm familiar with expedition Everest at Animal Kingdom at Disney. That's actually my only frame of reference for this It looks very similar. Right. I mean, I've never looked at this mountain and been like, what's it like to be on top? I don't give me No No, I don't give a shit. I I'm not a nature girl in the first place, like it takes a lot to get me outdoors, mostly because of my allergies and the sun and literally everything trying to kill you all at once. I'll hike, like as long as you know, it's like little bit flat. you know, And also I'm not camping. I'm not sleeping outside. L my ancestors fought way too hard. Wh Wh the hell would I go cosplay like? not having a home. That's why Would you glamp? See, to me, then it's like We're one step away from just being in a house, like a cabin in the woods Like why does it need to be? why does it need to be tiny and uncomfortable if if it's going to already be nice and in the woods? Okay, I will concede that. But there are some moments in my life where I have never found the kind of solitude that I have like in a pop up camper in the middle of the woods, like just by myself. And I know that's like that's super weird to say out loud sometimes and hear it because it sounds like, oh, you're just begging to be murdered in the middle of the woods. Oh no. People who are doing murders, they gotta be in high traffic areas. Do you know how long you'd have to wait to get you a murder if you was in the woods? Like just standing behind a tree, Dam as a squirrel. All right. Well, maybe it's way would murder me I don't I just keep waiting Oh yeah, so you find solitude in the camper and like resting. Yeah. And now you by yourself either by myself or like with my husband or it's not something that I will say I don't want to put out the idea that I am like this Mountain woman And I just go out there and camp all the time. This has been very select times throughout my life. I could count on one hand how many times I've done it, but I do see like the intrigue and like how it is good for the spirit sometimes to be a whole spirit. We're always bringing it back. But how it could be good for you just to like be in that solitude, but No, it's not something that I would want to be in all the time. And I would not want to have to hike to the top of a cold snowy mountain to do that. No, and it's so dangerous. It's really expensive. It's bad for the environment. And it's like eight thousand meters above sea level Mount Everest is the highest point on Earth. That cloud attracts a lot of climbers and some people who know what they're doing and many who do not. I'm gonna say most probably don't I'm gonna like wager a bet to say no, they don't I mean, I jump into things I don't know how to do all the time. That's kind of how I like ended up here twenty five years later as a drag quueen jumped into it didn't know anything about it. but I think it's a little bit different than saying I'm gonna take this backpack full of beef jerky and cl it to the top of the highest point in the world Ginger, I feel like the next time I see you it's gonna be an ad for like you sponsoring REI I only know what REI is simply because when I was filming All Star six, I could look out of my it was during like the height of COVID. So we had to quarantine for ten days in our hotel rooms and like couldn't leave them. And the only thing I could see out of my hotel room was this like REI. and I didn't have a phone to look up what the hell it was So everybody that would come by like anytim the PAs would come by they' be like, hey What is REI? Is it? And nobody could tell. it took a week for me to get that info. That's the only reason I know what REI is. I love that all these quies were like, what is REI? My producer suggested a collab, maybe Patagonia and Gucci That's. Patagucci. Patagucci? Yeah Ginger. Yes.. So when the climbrers are doing this, obviously they're encountering like really harsh obstacles like altitude sickness, weather and wind and frostbite and avalanches and Cumboo, That's iceball. It's like a glacer. Yeah, that's sliding about one meter down the side of the mountain every day. So you know, also just like Iice snaps. Yeah, like frozen. Right, Exactly like frozen. So Everest summit has one third the air pressure that exists at sea level, which reduces a human's ability to breathe in enough oxygen and also getting drunk faster. If you're ever in a mountainous area, you should really wash it if you're trying to get your drink on because you'll get lit faster. I heard years ago, like when I first started traveling after my first season of drag race, one of the other queens told me on the flight, she was like, is back when I drank. I don't drink anymore, but she was like, hey, you experience things like at such a heightened level. When you like reach your cruising altitude. So you should always drink, drink more before you hit up there. That way you don't have to drink anymore because you're already drunk and it's gonna stay that way. Don't watch sad movies because you're gonna cry harder. Like this was something that I don't I don't know the actual facts behind me. But there were things where I was like, oh, that kind of does make sense because I used to wait till I got up there to drink And then I would drink what I usually drink on the ground and it was hitting me ten times harder. Right. And then watch I watch cocoa. I watched cooco on the airplane. And following the instructions that you were given. Well I was testing the hypothesis. I like that. a scienceist is. Yeah. I am a scientist. All of a sudden, Ginger, she's in a white trench coat. I don't know where it came from. I don't know where it came from, but I love it. My hair in a messy bun with pencils. With so many pencils because that's how you know you're doing science. It's like you really need to reach for the pencil so fast. Science So people cannot survive indefinitely above nineteen thousand feet. So you have a limited amount of time before your organs stop working and you die. You know when you're doing like a hobby? it's like, we gotta hurry up before our organs stop working and we die. I don't think I've ever had that conversation, but now it will be at the forefront of my mind. It's gonna be so much fun Well, we gotta hur up though, y'all, 'cause otherwise failure, okay, we did Just said maybe you shouldn't do shows up there, Jenter. I don't know. I feel like Mount Everest wanted you. Well, maybe just like like a pop up number, a hot spot Like a helicopter like Oh. Girl, I could do the whole Dietta Roth Whenish she came down in the helicopter? Yeah. But then just keep going all the way down. N N never stop. Don't stop It's a cto. stop. Kit stop hold stop Yeah. Since a Nepalese Indian climbing guide and an English mountaineer first got to the top of Everest seventy years ago, more than three hundred people have died on the mountain and more than two hundred of their bodies are still up there frozen in time. I mean we all know about green boots, the landmark green boots. There's also sleeping beauty. There's some other ones I've heard of What's wild to me is like, I don't want to go anywhere where M markarker is a dead man's shoes. No No, I don't Oh, those's a deadn man's shoes. That means we're on the right track. And I don't I think we're on the wrong track. exactly. I mean, you see how it worked out for them. Right for green boots for sleep and beauty, like please. So and Green booots has been lying at the top of the North face for almost thirty years because it's too dangerous to bring green boots down, which is really sad, but like people People show green boots a lot of respect when they're climbing the mountain and stuff. I think the most respect would be just not climbing the mountain, but here we are Yeah, I heed the warning. Right. The only reason I know what North Face is is because of the clothing brand. Same. I never even knew it was a reference to a side of a mountain. I didn't either. I had no clue, but look, we're learning everything We are learning. It just sounded very like outdoorsy. So I was like, ye ye, the North face I just like like a like a um . Yeah. Oh, sure. yeah, we'll go with compass. Yeah, that's where I was going. But clearly I just thought like maybe like when you walk out and you don't have a compass, you just turn your face until the sun hits it like we'll walk that way because you walk into the light. But now that I think about that and like maybe these people did walk into the light and that's why they are now myo markarkers. Oh no Girl. That was a really whimsical way of thinking of it, though, ger, though. I thought you just turned your face to the light and that was how the North faced. Yeah, No. Don't ever follow me anywhere except on the internet because I will probably lead us into peril. Same, same. I just walk really fast and then people think I know where I'm going, but I don't My mom always just said move with purpose never be walking around like you don't know where you're going. So I'd be lost, but just walking like real determined. Oh, I've lived in Orlando for mostost of my life now. Probably almost thirty years I've been in Orllando And I can still get lost. I in all fairness, they change our highways every single day because it's been this construction project that they've been under since I moved here. But there's so many days that I will just keep driving around and the people in my car are like Do you know where we're going? You said you lived fifteen minutes from the airport? I yeah, I'm just I'm showing you the town. I'm just I'm showing you all the beautiful things that we have to offer here. They're like really because we've passed that seven hundred eleven fifteen times. Why I really want you to appreciate it? Yeah, it is then you just make up facts, like that is the world's largest seven hundred eleven with the oldest slurpy E existed. And one time Riba went there. So yeah, and it was today and we're going to meet her. Yeah I love this ginger. Just take the anio even more. G. Keep going This cast is supported by Ring. With Ring, it's protected. Keep track of packages and see more at the front door with battery doorbell. Make sure your yard is safe at night with their outdoor cam plus that delivers a wide field of view and enhanced video clarity with retinal two K video, and upgrade to four K cameras and doorbells featuring retinal vision that give you ultra clear footage I let youzoom in without losing important details. I love to order a package. I love the feeling in my stomach when something new arrives in the mail. But we all know that it's scamming season four times a year. Yes, that's all year round. 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We're taking our spirit flights to Nepal And then we happened all Eve like everybody else So the shirpas, they get paid around four thousand dollars per climbing season, plus tips and bonuses if they make it to the top. And if you get stuck and need a rescue, it'll cost you, the climber, right? So four thousand dollars Her climbing season risk your life as a shherpa to take privileged people up a bountncing that they have no business climbing, where you carry all their stuff. And clean up after them and help them do everything. You get four thousand. It costs fifty to forty thousand dollars to do it and you're giving them four thousand a season It's not even a cle No That's a great ass. That's really bad. I could it sharper side now. C' on a tour guide side because y'all ripping these people off My life every time I climb? No.. Especially since you are solely responsible for these people who do not have the qualifications to even start this climb. Right Like if they're lucky, they'll be able to successfully do this once and successfully get down. You've been running up this bitch every day like like it's like the grocery store L like I gotta get some coffee Let me climb Everest really. L It's on the other side of Everest. No it's fast if I just climb over Everest and then get the coffee. L you have on the south face. Yeah, it's on the south face. so y'all't been the south face cl Its so good. It' good. I'll be back the hour These people might do this once and not die. Please, if your life is in my hands It should be worth a little bit more to you than four thousand dollars for the season. This is like, if you're really cheap when you hire babysitters. I've never understood that. Those are your kids. You can't be ready at too much discount on who watches your kids. No, no. I mean, just my fur babies, just my dogs It's a vetting process. And if your price is too low, I don't trust you from the jump just because like why why are you undercutting everybody else Why do you want this I understand you're trying to build your business, but if this is the going rate for something and you are so severely Under that, What's wrong with you? Yes, Giving too good to be true It is and I'm one of those two good to be true people for sure. L I always try to see the glasses half full, but There so many times somebody's picked that up and dumped it out right in front of me And that's how you say it That's like to keep from getting scammed. so I'm with you, Ginger. So helelicopter rescues. For flying a rescue helicopter into thin air and dangerous weather, it's you know, very difficult, which is why it can cost from five thousand to ten thousand dollars, but depending on where you are. So if you're on the North face, you on the south Face, we don't know. the coee shop. the coffee shop So that's why you need travel insurance. Depending on which insurance company you use and how much coverage you want, that could be between seventy dollars and fifteen thousand dollars. I feel like I'm not going to go with a seventy dollars life insurance for Mount Everest. Feels low. No No. The only thing they're preserving at that point are your shoes. Right. It's giving remains. It's not giving I'm go come down. So about a thousand people attempt to get to the top of Everest and nearly a hundred thousand visitors travel to the Everest region for hiking each year. So they go just to like hang out, but they're not really trying to do the real thing. So like one hundred thousand people go slide and take some pictures. And then a thousand people are like, we're climbing up this bch. Okay. And like Everest has a rule too, like you can't like I guess you can always lie say you climbed Everest, but apparently you're supposed to like get up there, take a picture, like you have to do all this stuff for them to officially recognize that you climbed it ' people would like not make it all the way or you know probably hanging out at the summit. and they're like, yeah, I climbed Everest. I mean, there are rules in place when you do eating challenges at restaurants Like you want that Yeah, if you want that free t shirt, then you definitely have to show people that you ate five pounds of food in twenty five minutes beforefore you get your picture taken and put on the walt Lake third, are little things that for something a little less dangerous as climbing Mount Everest. They were like there would be no stolen balor No. L you can eat ri joint more If you make it to the top of Mount Everest I would think you would want the picture anyway, right Yeah Yeah. So I ain't trust nobody that said that they did did it and then didn't show a picture That's true.ure it didn't happen. Pix or it didn't happen. but also like give me a good photoshop. We could really devalue going to Everest if we all just started posting that we were there. Hashtag, I climbed Everest. Let's do that Hashtag ever was so easy E so easy Stop at the coffee shop on the sideace. M me and all my home girls be going to Ere is. Girls trip. Girlsp Girls tririp to Everest, Yeahah. Wein't ever coming back. That's worse than the Miami ones. So mountaineering generates a significant source of revenue for Nepal, which is home to eight of the ten tallest peaks in the world. So Nepal got all the mountains and climbing fees bring in more than five million dollars per year. And so a bunch of foreign tourists with money to burn arrive in like harsh, unforgiving landscapes they've never been to before pretty good target for a scale. Yeah, would say so So it turns out Everest hiking guides have been triggering those expensive helicopter rescues when they're not necessary, either by giving the tourist an upset stomach on purpose or by faking the rescue al togetherher. So The ones who are giving the upset stomach, I feel like you're getting a little risky here Yeah. L maybe like because you know, remember We all got a lot of time before our organs shut down. I feel like messing with somebody's organs to get them on a helicopter is a little too sketchy for me. But the people who just completely staged it, oh, I'm on y'all side. You were like, no, you're not making it. We need to rescue you. You're like, No, I feel good. I feel like we could still do this. No, no, no, you're doing it. He' like Oh, you look peeked to me right now I can see three. Oh, oh, you're so. Oh your skin, your skin is getting that everveorous blue. Yeah, we got to get shat If you just gaslight the people into getting on the helicopter, I think that's amazing. Poisoning them a little too risky for me. That is a little too risky, especially since like just from a sanitary aspect, I'm going to assume there are not bathrooms up and down the side of the mountain. Now you gott to take your bathroom bucket with you and you gott to take it back down All your poops What is glamorous about this? I'm walking around with all my poops on me. in a bucket Now N that sounds good. like not that I was on the fence about doing this in the first place, but I genuinely don't see appeal and other than simply for bragging rights at that point But there's so many other things you can do in this world to get fabulous Backing rights that you don't have to like, girl, go eat the five pounds of food in forty five minutes. And I will treat that just like Everest. L this is don like you can just be just as insufferable at dinner parties. Exactly. Well, even more. And you'll probably still end up with the bathroom issues with the upset stomach. before your orreggan shut down. My producer just just called them ego trips. Yeah, I think that's what they are. And like you gott you got to go on an ego maniac vacation. Like what's wrong with you So I have my whole life I've been obsessed with Titanic, like outside of Wizard of O stuff I've I won't say I've loved the story of the Titanic, but I'm fascinated by it. And then with the Titan submersible and everything that happened with that, Oh No I was all over that. St rush Yes, it feels very yeah, it feels a lot like this in the sense that like you're going somewhere where you're not really supposed to be, you're not built to go there. and it feels like, you know the people that have been lost on Everest on their way up and you can still see them in their boots and all that kind of stuff, it feels a lot of the same going the opposite way under the ocean for the titanic stuff. It just bothers me from a human aspect. like Like why why do you find you can appreciate something so much and have reverence and respect for it? But what do you get out of Tudging along those same footsteps Doing the same things and expecting a different outcome. Do you think you're smarter? Do you think you're better? I think it's disrespectful. Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think that is the ego of it all of Yeah. Oh, I know that I'm going to be better than this person. I can achieve this thing. I think that's why we all keep reaching for new heights in certain arenas because it's like, oh, no, we'll be able to do it. Me personally, I don't really enjoy how much they try to send people out to outer space Is we have so much I know there's some technological developments with satellites and things like that that work for us here down on Earth. But a lot of times these be vanity bullshit trips to the stratosphere and I'm like, I don't really do not take astronaut Katie Perry's name in fith Berry is crazy. It isn't for her what Nine minutes in space or whatever it was. Right. in the stratosphere. In the stratosphere. I' like, what But what did we get from that? Like what was the point of that Other than for the rest of the world to now forever call her astronaut Katie Perry. Right Jeff Bezos has really just been giving money laundering these days. I'm like the Melania movie, the like, Hey, y'all want to go to space real quick for five minutes and and we'll spend like hundreds of millions of dollars. Like Bezos, what cartel are you involved with? Be It's skiven the money has gotten too large and you got to get rid of it any wayay you can. Anyway, I mean, I've got he could just send some over just start sending it out to us if you wanted to. You'd have to like buy the whole m gallow This year How you crying You could have just floed some of it to us. I give get invoice. Jeff, I got hella invoices f Exactly. Or just reimburse some of the things that I've had to purchase off of Amazon over the years. What about three million dollars and I shin a cue ball head? I give was it San up , right M Okay, we can write that off So SRPA insurance fraud, speaking of fraud, Multiple operators and managers from rescue companies were arrested for this insurance fraud scheme in January. The guides used different strategies to trigger helicopter evacuations, including faking medical emergencies, spiking the food with large amounts of baking powder, which upsets your stomach in a similar way to altitude sickness Oh no, don't tell the witches that. It's not a recommendation out there, y'all. but Baking powder isn't toxic when used in cooking or baking, but it does contain sodium bicarbonate and acid. And if you dump a large amount in your food, it will cause like an overdose. The symptoms are thirst, abdominal pain, severe vomiting, and diarrhea. So the main symptoms of altitude sickness are also Vomiting Nausea. headache can be diarrhea. So it was easy to have a baking powder overdose and say that's Everest for you. Got to call that helicopter now, Mr. Warbucks Which like, okay, at least it was something that's not like It super poisonous This baking powder. Yeah Yeah. and in my head when you first brought it up, I thought it was gonna be like the whole X Lax move. Yeah, Where there's something. I mean, I feel like that's probably a little more dangerous. Even though I look like one I am not a scientist, I took my hair down, and got rid of the pencils.encil They're back in the jar. but Like, even though I'm not a scientist, I would kind of think that if you're L literally like shitting your brains out on the side of a mountain, it's probably going to dehydrate you and be a lot worse for your inner organs than what you get from the baking powder. Yeah, I agree with you. And I mean, other hikers were given like medications with excess amounts of water to trigger symptoms. Some hikers even got sick due to eating uncooked chicken O wrap droppings. Oh, Okay y'all put Now why y'all putting wp poooo up in in it Rat poooo read? No. No. Okay shirpers theatrical Sarpa who was just like, You're dying. We got a good j Yeah, I mean I love I love a good performance. I love The all the dramatic. So I will go I will give you that one. likeike that's fine. You The performance is fine, but the poisoning I can't stand by. I No So, you know Once a rescue was triggered because they're having these symptoms, helicopter operators inflated costs by billing each passenger as if they had taken a separate helicopter flight. So even when multiple people were picked up along the same route like an Uber rides share, Yall remember Uberpool The pool is crazy Art Erest? Well, now you see they're trying to do the helicopter Ubers in Yeah, they've been doing that to to get people back and forth to the airport Yeah I just don't feel ye no I don't need Shahid coming to pick me up on my rooftop to get I'm good to get to JFK. I'm actually fine. Yeah, I enjoy that ride from Manhattan into either of the airports It's good time for reflection. It is. And I'm just like too scared to get in helicopter. I don't think it's like a necessary place. It' loud. It is way too lou. loud and just like the risks of like You don't hear about many people landing safely in a helicopter Like airplanes, they sometimes they can land upside down. You can walk your asside of that bech. Like I actually read about the slide in the X row because I was like, okay, I know how to use the slide now because it really might slide off ic They're like we go toad this message is over. so I feel like too. like if you land upside down in a helicopter, then like the propellers keep going. you just keep spinning around That's how you get really sick. break dancing? Girl, I don't know. I feel like especially if you were already poisoned on the side of the mountain And you're already nauseous and sick and then to have that happen, you just keep spinning, you keep getting sicker and sicker. Yeah, having diarrhea in a helicopter sounds just terrible. Especially one that's spinning around very quickly Or Nausea? Oh my goodness. I thought sitting in the back of a car was rough sometimes So guides used to also, they would let the climbers in on the scam. They'd be like, look If you want to just fake a illness, then you don't have to walk back down So like we could clap upoo And nobody's ever like, I climb down Evere. noobody really cares about that, so tr. That's true. Yeah, just tell them you gotta poop and your head hurts and we'll get you a little helicopter. Don't worry. My bucket's full. My bucket's full, them'm dying. So let's see what's gonna happen to these people. Other times guys overstated the effects of mild cases ofe altitude sickness and recommended evacuation. So' our that's our theatrical person that we like. like somebody, you know, maybe like sneezes and they're like altitude sickness, they dying No't no, I'm fine I just sneeze. That's the first time All right Sirpperave. Yeah, that's the first side. We gotta get your ass in the Sy I love that guy. love I love whoever is And so the mountain scammers used fake flight records and forged medical documents to support exaggerated insurance claims. while hospitals created false admission and treatment reports in some cases. There were insurance claims for tourists who were not actually receiving care. So Sometimes if you had good insurance, they would just be like, okay, we're gonna run it up on you The hospital got involved. The Sharp was, the helicopter company I love if they're all in lockstep Yeah, I I mean Yeah. they're working together They're working together. and I think that at the end of the day, that's the lesson we can take from this. If we work together We can achieve anything. We can. As a country, we need to all come together and work together and we can we can work take our country back Okay. Well you take our country back. Yeah. Oh we don't have a Oh we're taking it back. I mean, we can start taking it back a little bit at a time. O sure at a moment A little bit of baking powder here, a little bit of theatrics there. A little bit of rat poop here and there Like McDonald's do us a favor. Come on, justust a little bit of rat poop. Just a little bit. You know you could get to him. You're our only hope . We're not even asking for a lot of rappoo. J just a speckle So, u Almost five thousand international climbers were targeted in this scheme between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five. Police in Nepaul said the more than three hundred cases of alleged fake rescues have been uncovered. aboutbout twenty million dollars was charged to insurance companies and sometimes to climbers themselves.