Madison Russo Cancer Scam

What's popping Conggregation? It's your girl Lacey Mososeley, AKA Scam goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Sam goddess vault. That's right. Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the Paywall. Enjoy this episode from Behind the Paywall and as always Stay scheming. What's poppin C congregation? It's your girl Lacey Moseley, AKA S scam godess. Welcome back to another episode of Scam Goddess. The podcasts all about robbery fraud and those who practiceices. Sometimes we love them, sometometimes we hateem. We'll see along the way. Conggregation, y'all know what I am. You know what it is. I'm very yes, excited, elated for today's guest what a g Get'all. Today we have an amazing stand upp comedian actor and the host of Netflix Drink Masters. Check out his first action movie, Cgger Wning coming out soon on Netflix. Conggregation, please welcome Tonebeld to the show. Hello That was beautiful. Thank you becauseuse they come here to edit her versions today they not even gonna know. Well done. Well done. now that take one was beautiful Tonn, I don't know if you know this but we've run into each other a couple of times and you know a couple. It's Erica and I can't remember her husband name right now, but he b. Anyway, they love you and told me about you years ago. Oh boy. Don't even try. Yeah, ye, yeah yeah don't me in troupe. I won't. I went to Vegas with my mom, my dad, and they're like a part of the friend group. And so I was literally at cabanas and bottle service with my mom and my dad. It was I mean firstirst of all, it wass pretty dope. Like my mom would kick it like that. My dad would be like, it is loud out here And I mean, also he kind of a creep now. He don't know he's not staring where you were go with that. Okay, yeah, you do get to a certain age where you just you get the freedom to just stare at people. It' like, all people, they will stare at you and then youll look at them in the eye and they'll be like, No, I'm still staring. What's a You ever notice them dudes? likeike I would see it occasionally because like I would see them old dudes when like the rem when the watches used to had the cameras on them. You know what I'm talking about? like like fc they had like the smart watch with the camera on it. And so you see a bunch of dudes like over sixty. justust like Acting like theyre looking for something, but theyre just doing like eyes up in then videootaping booty. Oh man. my good. Oh man, I gott see it all the time. It's like bro Bro You gotta get cleaner about that. That sounds like some technology. people were just like, I don't know. What to make people think this is different? withith a camera? ' that's what you need on your watch. I don't nobody need that. Don't nobody need care my watch James Bah, you ain James Bob.. I for that generation like what are we doing? I don't need those spy kids ass technology on my watch. Just tail time. Maybe some texts. That's it. No, that's so funny. So On this podcast, we always ask our guests, what's your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever run some scams that are outside of the statute of limitations? It could be anything. Hate it when it happens to me. loveove it when it's a low level crime and people get away with it. And yes, I used to have a U, in my former life deceades ago I you know, I had some things going. I mean, I would call it being a thing de But but yeah, I'm a different person now and now I have things to lose. So I don't take from anyone else. But yeah, I used to I used to get away with some stuff back in the day. that then I have been scammed. Yes, I have been scammed. Well, I won't say scamm, but I have almost fallen for something that I thought was that definitely wasn't scammed excuse ere was it Man, some chick I dated back in college out of nowhere hit me saying she was in Africa and she needed me to Western Union of some mth and I didn't know this thing was going around. Do you remember when I was going around back in the day of like Yeah like I need two thousand dollars because I can't get my flight back, so can you Western union me the money and I was was like I was like, Oh shit, Vicky's in trouble And she hasn't called me a year. so I know it's got to be I mean and I I'm out here calling Western Union like, yo, I don't have it in cash, but I can take this credit card I'm good for it and And' like, we don't, sir, we don't do credit. And who was this for? And I was like, y'all don't have this number And're like yeah, but's not attachhing to No Vicky. And I was like So then I just hit on like Facebook. I think Facebook was still popping at the time. Facebook it might' have been my space. Vicky must have been a baddie. You weren't even with Vicky anymore and you're on the phone like Liam Neson from Taken trying to save her. from Africa. We had a very maj General Africa. They just said Africa. There was no No country no ye we got to go all con. The whole continent. We got a five Vick, y'all, but we had a very mature separation from how things dissolved in college. Oo, I like that. See y'all'all have to have amicical breakups so that you can call up your ex and be like, I need two thousand dollars to get out of general Africa. And year And I was like, after I we talked and she was like, No, I'm in Houston What what you talking about Yeah, it was was so I don't fall for that shit no moreore, but You gott to send a you want to get money for me, you got to send me a bill. I need to know where it came from. I need to see the bill That's how send money now omise. I love that Now did they contact you through email? Was it a text message? like how did the skimmer pretend they got me through the email? Yeah because they had the logo. They hacked their email. They had the logo and all that. The logo. The Western Union logo. Oh I know you could pay powerower requests on Western Union. L J just send people a link That's different. Also very funny to be told that you were gonna put her life saving on credit. You were like Oh was ye was between four cards.actly what I was going do. I was like, I ain't got it, but I can get it. Oh You're a good friend. I got that. I'm a great friend. I'm a great friend. If you get an email from my email that're saying, I'm stuck in genereral Africa, you know, I know you got money, so go ahead and se it cash. General Africa is so funny, by the way Not even a coast. They did e it have a coast in it? No, not a zip code, not nothing. How What airport are you flying out of, sis? B I was And flights change depending on what airport you're at. So if you're just in general Africa, like it's different to fly from Egypt than it is to fly from South Africa, I'm confused. I never thought about itnt just now, but like she must have been good to me because there are some other people that could have called them me like she's going to be in Africa She go had to stay in whatever country she is.oy Toy to just stay in Africa and I'oy It didn't go with first time. Why would I bring him back It like, it's probably good for me that she's not in the country nomore. This probably She could get a job over there. There's plenty of thriving countries in Africa. She' gonna do well. I would answer the collect call from Bicky, but Latoyia I' have been I'd let that go to voiceemal. Oh man, you would' have kept Latoyia in their Friday night bookings over the weekend. No she was a talker, She'dve got out of it. I love that for both of us G And it's time for What's hot and Friy? This is where we warn our listeners about popping scams in the Zeitges more often than not these days. We get a letter from you all. As always, snitch on your friends, your family, Latoyia, your enemies at scam Goddesspot at gmail d. com justust make sure the scam is retired. So retired. So we don't what? yes up your bank. Amen. So Ton, I need a fake name from you. We don't care about gender. It could be anything Lazarus Samuels. Lazarus from the b Love it. I mean, you know Y' get up love Last, last Samuels Lazus wasn't a greatw last lastass. I love that. I love Lazus last Simpson Let's go ahe that Simps. Why is Spson necessary? I don't understand. I like a good two I love I love it. Last sim. Don't he sound like he' sound like somebody who'll pick you pocket but go ahead. Last sounds sketchy as he I think if I' ever met a Las Simpson that I would, you know do any business engagements with them. It's just like the name Matthew. L every matt is a scam. like y'all not getting me. You don't trust no Matthew. Too many y'all.oo many of y'all. I feel like Las Simpsons somebody would say Las and then then't say his whole name Las. Last Simpson It is. It almost gives me sportscaster like a retired football player and we have last on the field It's been a long time since we've seen Laz Simpson That reminds me of Best Man holiday and the only reason I'm bringaking this up is because have you seen it? the TV show? has been? Oh no, Oh, we tal about the Well it's called B Best Man but his TV show. I don't know the name. Oh They have you right. They have Moruris Chestnut's forty five year old self returning to the NFL as a running back And everybody was like, what? Man enough people to talk about that because I definitely have not watched it as on myQ, but yeah, that's That should have been trending. I did not see that. That's a plot hole. likeike come on. now he could maybe come back as a quarterback like try to do a Tom Brton can't forty five. You can't do nothing at forty five le that off that long. you got to be you got to come right back You got to come right right? He got to come back as a water boy. I mean that's too trarain in the summer being like, I think I changed my mind. That's not taking six E seasons a decade off and then coming back and be like, I still got it. And they tried to make it like, o, he looks great out there. And look, this is not ages, okay? This is just what happens to your body and you definitely can't go back to the NFL at forty five. I was very confused. but we just let it rock, okay? because nostalgia, it was tasty. So L Simpson says, I'm a wedding photographer in Utica, New York Last week I received a message from a bride whoses wedding I second shot last summer, meaning I work freelance for another photographer. The photographer who was the primary photography vendor for this woman is refusing to give her her wedding photos. Now I picked this because I've heard of fake wedd photraphers who are like, yeah, yeah I'm shoot you ye, G me my deposit and then I'm gonna pull up on your special day and I'm gonna flick it up. We gonna get photos of everything. You're something borrow, you're something new, you're something blue. He, we get your toes, we get your ankle bracelet, like whatever you want. Yeah, and then they just don't come. Oh didn't even show up. Yes, that's the normal scam that I've heard of I've never heard of somebody coming to the wedding Taking all the photos and then be like, See, I have heard that though You have? are you here Oh I've seen that twice Like never got the photos showown up. Definly ate. ate had a meal Dance, open bar, drink No photos No folks. No been there for them. I feel like I would know I wasn't getting photos if the wedding photographer is over here having a full playate, you know a fish or a chicken option and they're drinking at the bar, bro, you are at work. You're supposed to be taking photos of people. What you mean you over here? Let me get three shots of cosmigos. You are the wedding photographer. Just wearing three cameras, but not shooting none of them. Just in costo. You see the weding photographer doing an electric slide, bro. You' supposed to be taking pictures of that. What are you doing? He got a piece of asparagus He got a spear in one hand and then he just like Got you. Got him. Right. I do not want to see the wedding photographer at the Bouquet toss, Like let me I want to get married next. You're not going be a part of this You wasn't supposed to be on the periphery. We shouldn't really notice you. You should be taking photos of our happy moment, notot you all in it. That's too much. But like that's it's better now because at least you know people you know got photos if somebody's scaming fififty years ago anyone that year then you just you out of there unless you got a You got it Kodak or I love that we don't even know what it's calledp Honestly, you got to get divorced if you dont have no foage from your wedding. What are you gonna look back on when you're like,, he let this dirty douse in the bathroom again? Like what are you gonna rumin this on to keep you in love if you don't have those photos? Beause you gott you gott toa have a photo on like even when you mad, you gott you gott to walk past it to be like this why I'm in, this why I'm in, this why I'm in But but that's the thing Before they leave, you hire a photograpy Before they leave, be like, give me a copy. O a raw images before you leave before you start touching up. So at least I got to back up. Right? becauseuse you can send them to anybody to get them touched up. Let this be a lesson because the weddingotog this is not the first time I've heard of wedding photography scam. It's the first time I've heard of them doing the job but then just saying you can't have it, which is wild. That's great. It's like getting in an Uber and like you're like, oh, it's right here. they're like, no I'm gonna keep driving. I'm I need to run by the house real quick. Man, we are not going by your house. We are not on T two seconds I'm gonna stoping in and out because I can get some food for my kids. and then I'm gonna drop it off at the house and then I'm gonna swerve back I'm the p to get you open here I'll admit this, I worked at a drug store in high school And me and the dude that worked the phhoto department had a scam going where we would do I told you, I ha't always lived this life. And I love this for you. I didn't always I didn't always live this, you know, very B in life. You know, like especially like when you come in and bring you little camera rolls, right From a wedding, people bringing me. I mean, they got eight ten, twenty roles And so we to already go All right We can print these free. We'll take out all the dummy, all the bad ones and then all the good ones will throw in there and it'd be like. four hundred dollars worth of photos And we straight up just go, lookook, man, come back Seven o'clock on Sunday We get all your photos, go pick out some frames, bring them up here. We put a whole box together. And then give us two fifty cash and then you get all the shit you want That's scamming big corporations. They've been scamming us. I mean not man. I't take them from I' Robber hood. don't from the little guysy I love that. That's what we're all about in this podcast. I also love like seeing Hustle Man at the twenty four hour photo, like, A man, just seven o'clock, come back, have cash, be discreet. was going put it put it in a picture frame. put it in a picter frame right below the eight byx ten with the white people in a dog, put it in there and it slide it over Wh was I here getit Cash. C Because those photos are not worth what they're charging for them anyway. So everybody wins. They not high glos. They got a discount That's actually when I've seen my first when I was working a photo department, that's when I seen my first new selfies See, that's what I always thought about. and I saw there's like a movie, maybe's twenty four hour photo or something like that where they do develop like what Y'all were bold back in the day. Like y'all wanted news so bad before smartphones that you were like, I gott to get these developed and then put themem in mail. Not mail news got stps I made for like but you'd be like, you fifteen, sixteen working at the drug store. So you and then with the person that come pick them up, you'd be like, here you go. Ma', ma', here you go Taking news on a disposable camera is hilarious to me because you have no idea if you really got the shot. Like if you're doing it on your cell phone, you can look and be like, oh let me turn my body to the left or whatever. But if you're doing on a disposable camera, you don't even know what you took. That's like we know That's like waiting on the real results. You' like, I gotta wait five days to see if my new is go clear And then I got to take my news to USPS. You never got news? gots? You ever got news in the mail? I have not received any newes in the mail. No, I have not. Have you? Well, one out of two of us has, ye. One out of two. Y'all have to do the math to figure it out who it is. God. So were they in like a regular letter? Was it FedEx? With the sticky pages withith the sticky pages. When you put them, it was captioned with like a written caption. shouldn table book. Oh, it was straight up blue. It was blue with the gold trim And it was it was like you could flip through it went from it went from closed to But Nick Wow, and there's some intrigue to it because it's like we starting with the clothes on and it slowlys that's art. Very good storytelling. Lve that for her Love that for her. What the dedication. okay? Arts and grass. Ats of grass. Right? She got some star stickers in there. It was a yarn. It was a little yarard around the titties on what. You busushh it. That's what it looked like. It was all kind of stuff in there. The effort was real. Going to Joanne's fabrics to Sit News is wild That's wild She was like, wait, whereere do y'all keep the photo out? Okay, great. And then where is the glitter glue Thank you so much That's wild. That's wild Tong. You really you really got them out here. I love that for you. I used to live life this. Listen, delivered, delivered. We all have a pass and I love it. So the primary photographer was refusing to give the wedding photos. After two weeks of correspondence with the bride, we found that there are sixteen in all caps brides that she knows of who have not received their wedding photos. Dating back to twenty nineteen, the brides who do get their photos back had to fight tooth and nail and even then only got about five forty preview shots. So there were some brides who popped a trunk on the photographer and were like,, listen, aluminum bats are very cheap online and we come in. You gott to pull up. You gott to pull up on them. You gott to pull up on them. You got a bride ella. I mean, like you got to br somebody You probably have to contact somebody else who's about to have a wedding who they just hired to pull up on somebody el's wedding. That's not a gas station You pull them at somebody else win? Yes You ruin us of anyw way that you a Joe photo I like they were probably stalking this person. They go to the place of business, the studio and then they follow them to the gas station. and when they got the pump in the car, they're like, bitch. they sitting there with a match like I'm gonna light this whole bitch on fire if you don't give me my nuptial photos. That's like that rightight now. wasas it Dar Butler movie? We like the police wouldn't do that. so So he's like I'm go find it myself. Like you try to call and he's like, I'm gonna take mad into my own hands. And then youre just going out and you become somebody that you're not even like, you't even think you was gonna beat this person? You kicking down doors with my fucking photos. Everybody on the ground and somebody get the USB drive right now. Where your SM carsp you just do I taking all of them. So last since said I'm in a group with about five brides at the moment and they have a similar story. The clients wait the time stated in the contract before they start asking for their photos and then they start reaching out for an ETA. She continues to put it off, making various excuses such as she's busy with high profile magazine shoots, a brand new studio, her kids, and sudden mysterious medical issues. she was like I'm sick U's I'm shooting for Vo. Also I got babies and so I can't give you your What N this excuse is like I got a question I got a quiz Do you think that this person, this phager Let's say let's start to begin Wedding number one I have a question about this Not the first wedding in this story, but this photographer's first wedding. Do you think this person happened upon a camera. And was like, ooh I'm a shoot wedding Right? D Yeah throughout these weddings It wasn't that they had the photos, is that they was all bullshit These photos are trash They don't know how to use his camera. light is bad So really, you taking the money? Yes, it's still a scam, but also they' just a trash and photographhery. And the stre the streaks all across all the photos, everyverybody eyes red. So they just practicing from wedding to wedding until they get better than she who actually sell. It's givming, I don't know how to do photoshop Be blurry the photographer is supposed to edit the photos so that maybe they're blurry out of focus and also there she can't edit them You can't you can't practice on game night though. You know what I mean? You you You got to just get No. You got have a friend put on a dress and go to a park and be like, let me, let me figure this out for you But you can't be practicing at my wet Right. There's certain things that I don't want to be the first time that you did it. like I'm going into surgery and you like this is my first one. No, no, no, no no. I don't want a first time pilot I don't want a first time Dennis I don't the first time photographer. No Yeah, there's just certain things. Oh, definitely not my first time dentist. Wh, I've been there. I still am beefing with the dentist that I went to at sixteen who I told her I wasn't numb enough and then she drilled into my nerve and I like, have you ever had tears shoot out of your eyes involuntarily 'cause that's what happened to me. I feel like Denis Star scam, I feel like they invented rock candy because that shit looks pretty but it tastes disgusting and it fucks up your teeth. I feel like they're into big rock candy and I'm not fucking with it. Sorry to the DDSs out there. I found me a good one finally, but I had one to scam me. and then E okay, hease I don't know if I've said this on the podcast, but I need a visual to? What tooth was it U So this is a different dentnis, but the other one was in my molar, but this I've had a lot of bad dentis experience. but this one, I went to his office and he had Balenciaga pillows, He was playing bad bunny on the TV screen because I only go to dentnis in expensive areas because I'm like, you gott to make rent, which means you can't fuck me up. So you got to be a good dentnist. Nobody that has sales. No discounts. no price charging me extra go ahead. I'm with No two for one root canal. No, no, no I wouldn't get one free molar, No, no. Thank you y'all. He was so mean to me. I remember he was like, o my God, your teeth are in such bad shape and d dah, becausecause I had waited through the pandemic ' like, okay, it's a pandemic. Like the last place I want to go is somepl where y'all gonna be in my mouth Like breathing the COVID into my tonsil. Why would I do that Absolutely not. So when I went I had like some cavities and he was like, wow, this is like, he was just talking to the hygeners. And I'm like, Niga, I'm here. And he's like, o, this is so bad. d. And even the way he pulled my tooth, I had to have another tooth, my wisom teeth, I still had them, but I had to get them pulled. He pulled one of them And why did this man brace himself? He put one foot on the chair and then like was yanking real hard. And I was like, o, I'm at a prison dentist. And I thought because of the Benyaca pillows and the bad buddy under the flat screen and all white that I was at a fancy dentist. Tell me why this man died. And I had already moved on to another dentist, but this was a few months after I moved on from him. He died and I got an email saying like, oh, he died But also y'all can keep y'all appointments because we gonna keep the dentistry place open because that's what he would have wanted. This man was not sick He died suddenly. What do you mean? That's what he would have wanted He was thinking one email. L you couldn't give us one email that was like, y'all terrible news. He died and then another one like, y'all can keep'all appointments. It was just like a blurb. like, okay, so he died. Hold on. Y'all still coming for y'all cleaning. It was like, excuse me. You can pay your respects by keeping your appointment and showing up Tuesday to fifty When you said you was going to be here Y c p is the say, we'll see y'all there. R IP. I name about Aura. you can honor him but still come to your appointment. Okay, that's what they were saying. I was said this is insane. Y, it's crazy. It' like I've never met anybody else. I' never met anybody else who had that same experience because that's should happened to me Years ago too, one of dad my dad's an engineer, one of my dad's clients, I didn't have deental insurance at the time. So one of my dad's clients was like, Oh I got them, I hook them up, just telling them to bra like eighty dollars cash D numb the tooth the wrong tooth and started cutting a different tooth So now he's slicing And I had like an impact the molar, whatever it's called. And same thing. when you said leg I felt that. I re felt that leg because he prew that leg up like Lisa from Temcula in that SNL skitch put it on a chair I mean He get I mean, he getting in there. I mean, he just like crack trying to crack it and I'm like, I don't think You were a dentist. I think you were mo kings, but I don't think you were a dentist I don't think's much a.o like that they just be giving anybody a DDS because then when I went back to my good dentist because I lost him, I didn't know where he was for a while. And when I went back to him, I had that's another story. I' do all that. I had to get another Wisdom to pull. They numbed me. they did some little thing. And like when I tell you, it was just like the easiest like painless, no brac in yourself procedure, and I told them, I was like, wait, I thought y'all was gonna to have to put the leg on the chair and yank it. And the dentist looked at me horrified. And I was like, yeah, that's what so and so did. And I guess the dental girls know each other in that neighborhood. and he made this face like, oh yeah shouldn' have been going Okay B, you know, u Yod I didn't used to be a wedding photographer. You're like what Truly, truly. So to end this so we can get on to historical basase. L Simpson says, these brides have seen it all. The photographer has called one bride screaming in the middle of the night, called her new in laws who have nothing to do with the negotiations and made threat after threat after threat. She states that she's going to archive photos and refund them. none brides have receiv a refund A add insults to injury, the photographer posts herself daily dancing around in lingerie in her new studio bragging about all the new clients she's taking on. One bride states that she now lives in fear of the woman. Her dad has potentially cancerous tumor and all she wants to do is share the wedding photos of him walking down the aisle. Oh no Oh And then not only is this photographer receiving a minimum of three thousand dollars from each of the brides and not delivering the photos, but she's also robbing them of their precious memories that are meant to hold on happiness their entire lives and turning it into a living nightmare Wow I D Damn You hit me at the end last because Memories are important to people and it's a takeaw away people's memories, especially ones like that where you don't know how much time you have left with the person. That' sickest fuck. callalling people and threatening them, you being debot about photos that they paid for And then I gott to watch you online enjoy yourself That's really the link. That's ways D like L look if I new money I' better ask see on vacation Honestly, if I lend you money, I better not see you at Starbucks buying a coffee. I'm like oh, you got money for a flat white, but you can't pay back What's much. If I see you, you better have made that yourself You betterade that yourself. Nothing that came with a receipt that youd had to turn an oven on for. L That shit better be homemade.. than my groceries and is and are. Also, you need to really cosplay as like the most down bad. I better not see you in a cute fit. You better wear burlap sacks on the grround until you pay me back. Okay, You better look like a nineteen twenties pick pocket for uil I get my money back For Oh, I am man Last getting me to I am upset I am I'm not happy. I don't want to see you at no restestaurants, not even Alebes, not even for the two for twenty two. No, you don't have twenty two till you pay me back. If I'm running to you, you p You better have a camera with you and a laptop. you better be editing. I'm so far behind I'm so far behind girl. I got you as soon as I can. I will as soon as I can get to you. I will. like you better be, you better be stressed, baby in one arm, laptop, camera slung around. I mean, you better be typing, you got a you got an old school mouse. lookook, you better be constantly sweating. Oh my God. D bam. I'm hot U but this is you know, y'all, you have to bet your photographers. I know w wedding when you put wedding on anything is a scam. We've said that a million times on this podcast. Y'all better telling me y'all having a love party and so you can get the price down. But your photographers. If you find a photographer you like, go online, see if they have go on Facebook, search their name on the internet, make sure that because the girls will talk when they've been wrong So Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. Oh yes they will. wor Girls will talk when they have been wrong just and that applies for a lot, N not just wedding photography, but. Oh men too I mean yeah. Okay sometimes. Have you seen all these podcasts with the men And I don't even think they were wrong We need to stop selling mes to sister admittute u til we figure out what the hell is going on because y'all don't need microphones. Ting, you good but it's a lot of it's a lot of your counterparties. me I've need a quitter name. I've gotten better I've gotten back If you say females on the regular, you do not need podcasting eip. That's difficult what you I'm from Atlanta.ushing at the story. It took me a long time to stop saying femaes because I'm from Atlanta. and That's how we talk, but I've gotten better And I love that for you. You don't scam, you don't say females, What a glow up I Thankk you. We're my goal star. Gold star for Marcus. Yes He A We are back Historoodwings, my favorite part of the podcast, I will regale Tone with a famous con Kper group of criminals we don't know yet. We're going to see you just like you. I do have a note at the top because you know we don't scam journalists. This story is primarily researched from Jeff Mashaw's New York article, Donald Trump and the sweepstake scammers, content warning there is a mention of substance abuse All right, so we're going back to the eighties, which that makes sense for a mention of substance abuse because apparently everyone was on cocaine So in the nineteen eighties, sweitch snakes were czies He Be before you start putting fentinol in it I would have tryed in an this day I can't try to if I was growing in eighties, I might have given it a shot. One of my favorite jokes in Black Monday, which I waited too long to watch. shout out to y' or Lester is Yes. com into the office. It's all about like Wall Street people, which are notorious for doing cocaine to this day. Someone comes in the office who does the drug dealing and he's like, Hey y'all I got a newugs called Everyone was like, Oh, that sounds aw. Limp to cracks, please so new people' know how to orderize j yet. No, 'cause it's hot on the streets And when you think about it, that's the risk you're taking with every drug you've never taken before. You know, people are like, oh, I popped a mollie or whatever, but like, yeah, you would be like two cracks. I got a story that I probably should tell this podcast. I'll tell you afterwards. Oh my God. okay. And this is Okay Okay, I can't wait. So in the nineteen eighties, sweepstakes were a craze and almost every major company and they all participated in them. Thousands entered competitions hoping to win fabulous prizes, but unbeknownst to all but a few, these competitions were impossible to win thanks to the seedy man that made them. Ooh, so this brings me back to one of our first gims, the McDonald's scim, where Hy was just stealing all the game pieces. I watched that one Okay didn't love McMillionions just because it was such propaganda. I was like, I want to see, you know, more of Homey. Like I don't wantan to see Yon again like we went through his trash. Like I want to see what he was doing with the money So during the nineteen sixties, when Chuck Sidman was a teenager, his father, Jack Sidman ran his own promotions business in Philadelphia. Okay, Philly, Yes. I know the Eagles lost the Super Bowl. I'm a c fan. So afterfter finishing his service in World War two, Jack developed and patented one of the first rub off lottery games, using gold leaf to conceal the prie underneath. Now I love a scratch off. they call it rub off That's a scratch off. Ro offff is hilarious, but yeah they had to turn they had to change that name. go ahead. I got scratch offs at my house right now because that was me and my grandma's thing. We go down to the corner store and get scratch offs and I don't know, every now and then I gott to do it. connection. Okay, so we're looking at the scratch off right now the OG. It's a spot of gold, cash dividends. Everybody wins. at the fair I love this. This work. I love this because It would have got me. I would have picked up how much five, ten? I wantna be a millionaire. So and I love that on this ticket, it doesn't say how much you could possibly win 'cause now scratches are like, you could win up to a million dollars or whatever. This just says cash dividends. It doesn't tell you how much You don't know what your investment could, you know return. They're just like Money You could get I wish say I I wish they did right now I could fall for like a spectrum A scratch off. I'd go in and like have a bill pay B you up, Brad By some for companies. Yeah, for companies Yeah, you ain't got to pay the bill this much. I do youertain to see if I can win a free month. Right. Don't give them any ideas. They are already takaking all of money from us. You know if we went into Verizon eighteenT any of those and they were like sccratch off you could win a new iPhone. noobody would ever win The most you would get like you got a pop socket. give us a case You get a cleaning rag. Congratulations. Now pay for that phone like you was meant to my m So his company his company, Spot O Gold, was one of the first to create such games and soon took over the market through offering rub offffs in convenience stores and grocery stores. I'm to call them scratch offs from here on off because rub offffs is giving me It sounds nasty. Yeah, it's doing a good job for me, but go ahead. I understand why you chang it. Rub me off. No, I don't want to rub nothing No. So his son Chuck was a serial high school dropout. How are you a serial high school dropout? I feel like you drop out and then thats you dropped out. So he's just coming back Okay. And he was a teenage drug addict. accccording to Adult Chuck, I was in seven detoxes and none of them worked. That revolution was to hire Seven seeven. That's still a lot. That's still a lot Yeah, that's still a lot. But I think it's kind of one of those things of like, if you want it To do it, then it works. but if somebody ships you in there and you're not ready, then it's not gonna work. And that's a scam of rehabilitation centers. I think they'd be hoping for repat customers. Yeah yeah, like it's like a gym. I hope you get fat again. N not a gym It's like I plan to Fitness be serving pizza. What are you doing the anesis of why we're here. I mean, eat what you want. This is not shaming. like I love food. this's not shaming it. but it's just interesting to be like, oh, I just got a great workout and they're like, Yeahah, would you like a tub a lard before you leave? What? This how they should get you. The gym is free, but parking is like twelve hours a day. Love that But it's got to be automatically charged becausecause you know, gymberships are a scam. Like they used to make you write like letters and mail them in to try to get out of your gym membership because they know some places still do. We not going write no letter. I am not writing an essay I'd rather pay you for. I' not going a USPS. I'm not doing it. But nowadays you just gott to pull up in person. like the brides. You gotta pull up and be like, if you don't take me out of this membership, I will fight everybody in this gym 'cause during COVID, my gym membership, they were trying to still charge and I was like, girl, we can't even go over there. What is we doing? No, we don't like add months on to later. No, youre not. No, you're not. They're like we got an online app. No, that's not the same. I can go on YouTube. give me my money. But But we guys new towels Shut up and give me my money back Don't give it damn. We took eucalyptus on now. Come on now You don't want your sign' passath to be cleared up. comeome on now we giving out locks for lockers. We giving out locks for the lockers. And also Jim's making like a breakup, like a romantic breakup. when you're like, hey, I don't want to come here anymore. They're like, why not? What did we do? And it's like, bititch I said, I don't want to come here no moreore. Let's get to the termination process. They're like, no, but let's talk first. comeome in my office. No, bitch. they't cancel. stop. They closure method is phrase Like we broke up. That's it is like it is what it is. One of us ain't happy. I gotta go. It don't take both of us to break up They only take one. They're like this's a mutual relationship. No. no They go one way. I And gets out of herears. Quit put these got their toails on me We' got fabrics soften it now. Stop it. Stop it. it giveive it two more weeks. No, I then we try to contact them. You look at I to give you a free smoothie. literally. And they know, they make it so arduous on purpose So We're talking about Chuck, right? Chuck says he went to seven D Txes. So Jack, his daddy, Jack's solution was to hire Chuck's friend, Stephen Gross to work at Spot of Gold in the hopes to keep Chuck off myth. Okay W is on that. So Yeah So But according to Steve, meth is one of those drugs and this is no shade to addicts or anybody, but meth is one of those drugs that if somebody was like, hey, come over, I got so much meth, I'd be like, no, I'm I'm okay. I just didn't know I was at the crib or weed. Yeahah, but like if you say meth or crack, I'm like, ctually I didn't know if thatet was out that long. So wait, hold on so Jack is the dad and then Chuck is the son. Chuck is the son. and then Steve came over to work Dad to get Chuck off m Right. Yeah You got it, it's still confusing, but you got it. That. So But according to Stephven, who's the friend, that was impossible. Chuck was this kind of narcissistic personality. you couldn't tell him what to do. At sixteen, Stehven had already began to make a name for himself in the company's development department, even successfully pitching Baskin Robbins cone o gold campaign. So you predicted this tone. So now Baskin Robbins has gotten into like, we going do scratch offs. y'all come in here and maybe you'll get one of these thirty one flavors for free I told you I used to to be in the door. I used to do this You know it., love, love that you're here. So at the same time, Chuck discovered that he could take advantage of working at Spottle Gold and steal tons of two dollars lottery cards normally delivered in secure trucks. Wow. So now he's stealing from his daddy. That's very disrespectful So Chuck won tons of cash, most of which he spent at the Atlantic City boardwalk, which you know, used to be popping before it died and then all the casinos What do you do with stole the money You try to make more stolen money flip it. For the This sounds like a business to me. Also, normally when you work for a company that does sweepstickakes or anything like that, you're not allowed to cash in Youin't allowed to play. So as young adults, Stehven and Chuck parted ways as Stehven went on to go to college and sell lingerie and later cars Okay, Stven.. Gohead. Chuck fell deeper into his addictions to the point where a local restaurant to whom he was indebted to for his cocaine blackmailed him into stealing a win a gold spot of gold game ticket. So A restaurant That was also selling cocaine I mean was was going to come back to this because I have never gone to a restaurant for cocaine I've never gone really anywhere for cocaine, but definitely at a restaurant I worked at a restaurant that sold cocaine, and I can't get specific because you will figure out what it is. But the servers were selling cocaine. like would you like the Branzino also an eight ball? Like I've been at places where this happened. I pick up what you putting down. Yes. So in nineteen eighty four, Jack paid off sixty thousand dollars in drug debt for Chuck now thirty three. So Jack slid in, even though Chuck was trying to steal these spottle golds to pay off the coce man at Rry's and his daddy pulled up and paid for him. Chuck is thirty three at this point, but he's you know, it's his son. He's trying to take care of him. However, Chuck's continual mistakes created enough tension in the relationship that they got into a fist fight, which prompted Chuck to break off ties with his father and begin his own sweepstate company with Steve. so Steve is back I was wondering what we were talking about. I mean, I mean, how I mean, Steve out here, youd rather partner with a crackhead Th to do. You got sixty dollars worth of bail. You still estabish fency and cars. Wow You also can't trust trust a man dropped out of school as many times, but You know, it's the sixties Right S the eighties. to say we know Yeah. We've been in the eighties So they named the company CB Sidman Marketing group or CBS in the hopes that the television network would sue them and earn them more publicity. So they intentionally did copyright infringement so that they could hopefully get in the papers. And honestly, what an influencer move for the eighties What a publicity stop? I'm not I'm not mad at them at all for this I love it. They said we're going to court and we're going to serve fits. We're going to make sure the paparazzi's there and we're going get our bag. So slowly Chuck began stealing his father's clients one by one for himself. I'm sorry I gott to say this That's probably how Mh start outes like crack to and then crack sued met 'use it was called Crack two and they're like, for copyright freshmen, they're like y'all just come up with a new name. It's like, But Crack two is pretty good. It's like, Mh, we meth now. But now meth are already on the map because they decided to come after crrack. All right, go ahead. Crack is Kirkland Brand Mh inst of Cheerios yog circle weeks. Yes I kind of love it. So his specialty was creating elaborate prizes such as convincing a dog food company to give away luxury vacations to not just one winner but forty nine of their friends and family. Jack expanded CBS by opening that seems like a sustace that's too good to be true Also, I don't think of forty nine friends and family that I would want to bring on vacation. Like maybe twelve. forty nine? forty nine Thatest like cheap. Also what an obscure number fifty. Well, I guess you gott to go. Are you fifty? you're one in in forty nine.body it's given nine n ninety nine n ninety nine. Did nobody have fifty friends back then? No, no. We don't generation we like back now. Yeah. So Chuck expanded CBS. by open an arm of the company to handle mail in promotions, a department run by two teenagers he had met in a parking lot. Great job Great job. Yall want to make some money. Yeah, we we got a part time job from the parking lot I techn jobs from the parking lot No, But they're teens. Male openers Is that what they were Yeahah they werere working And you know teens, like the whole reason that they have a lower employment rate is so that, you know, they can give kids like the smallest amount of money so that they can buy this, you know, kids shit. And liability. they get in trouble they ain't going to prison. So the teens were Timothy and Lewis and they were convinced to work for petities. just They sound like Trump. Let's do that again. Timothy and Lewis, they sound like someazz. They do. Timothy and Lewis were probably in the parking lot trying to check doors to see if any were unlocked so they could steal goods at the glove compartment. And they're like, y'all want a legit job? It's probably still that people mail out of their cars or something. He was like, do I have a job for you You what you up That's recruitment. Okay, Chuck. let me see open it l so They didn't have LinkedIn, I guess, so he had had to go to the parking lot to see who was down to do crime. Now that they ran the show, Stehven and Chuck realizeed they could sneak more prizes from the sweepstakes by rigging the competition and picking their own winner. The first win was ten supermarket sweep tricks to Tys RS from a Royal desserts company. So it's like a competition from Royal desserts and they're like, if y'all buy these desserts, y'all bring these scratch offs, like y'all could win a trip to Tys RS, which I guess is only really appealing to parents Mhm Mhm. So at the time, no one seemed to be breaking any enforceable law. in order to create an appearance of well, Chuck and Steve who had much better credit Steve had much better credit than Chuck They purchased three limos to ride to meetings in addition a BMW and a luxury cadillac. So they were giving the vibes of rich when they pulled the ull in the Burger King in a limo. I'm laughing Steve, off course, hand better credit than Chuck because Chuck Mao h your cash Cheuck don't make no credit purchases All ca. He all cares If we were talking street cred, Chuck would have better credit because he's been out here with the mo. Absolutely. Bying his drug. He's been alive this long. He good for it. Honestly, I think street credit should be a part of credit. Credit's already a scam. I should be able to get five references that I paid back to get a home loan. I don't understand why that's not a thing. I mean, this sound like a website we need it. Yeah Yeah, the new credit, Hy credit. No street. All people they know that. We need that. Street cate. Yeah. Yes. So at the same time, his father's business was failing between the loss of clients and the introduction of scratch off, which was a patent of Jack's rub offff, which made his business obsolete. Now, I'm gonna say, Jack, I'm sorry, I did not love rub off. I wish that you had thought of sccratch offff. It's just sexier and I hate that somebody got up under you and stole that from you. That's not right They did crack too to you. We don't like that I mean, you we hate that for us. I mean, you know, maybe Jack should he should have transitioned early, but like maybe maybe, you know I mean his name He's a blockbuster of scratch off. his name is also Jack and his product was a rub off I'm gonna sit that right there. I'm gonna leave that right there. and say he was trying to do put that together. I just put it together. I know and it's sticky when you think about it. So I will move on. Wow. I know. Wow. This is not what you get in my comedy shows, I promise you, but But people listening, understand what I just said. That wasn't too bad I think we got it. Oh wow, Wsers So Jack and Chuck remained unreconciled while Jack died of a heart attack in May of nineteen eighty six. I'm sure he was so stressed because his business got stolen, his son stole his business. Damn, I feel bad for Jack. With his father's death, CBS took Spot of Gld and its remaining clients damn Chuck, you ain't right. By this point, the sweepstakes industry was now a billion dollar industry that nearly every top brand seemed to participate in. But with the increase of success came increase of Chuck's substance abuse. So they're living high. he's full Wall Street and It's not good So according to him, I was on ten valum pills or Xanx pills a day in several tranquilizers. So he's moved on from the uppers to very, very down. Yeah. His wife, Susan became so frustrated that she calledit a wife named Jam Yeah, on, you know, making your wives Oh you know straight man, you ain't gota be shit to get a awayife. I mean 'use C is do be having chicks though. I mean, this's just We see it I don't know how' surr. I don't know how' surprise So his wife, Susan became so frustrated that she called this hypnotist, right? James Parker in hopes that he could fix her husband So James has studied hypnosis since he his first witness at a carnival se at seven years old. Now carnival, if you see your profession at a carnival and you trying to say it's legit I don't know about that So his ultimate dream was to become a famous traveling hypnotist, which is why he almost immediately found himself in Chuck's living room putting him in a trance. Okay, we're getting very sleepy,s giveiving that When Chuck woke up, he claimed to be cured and declared that he was going to make James the most famous hypnotist in America. However, James had to help him just with one favor. Pose as the winner for the Trump pllaza sweepstakes. T out Heapnotist You're a great hypnotist. You can't be hypnotized And then wake up being like, guess what? I don't do c crack anymore. You're not supposed to remember crack. What kind of hit how you go? Ererase all that shit. comm into a crime. Why would you go Iidiot? You love cranks But when I wake you up, you're going to be like, I don't like crack no moreore Just get crack out of here Make it I hate crack, but I love crime. and you have to help me But anybody who gets their profession from Cnival and it's Then we already know what he's on. So as part of CSB operations was creating turnkey sweepstakes promotions for companies. They had created a campaign for one of Trump's flagship casinos, the Trump Plaza casino in casino. Why am I saying that wrong? In Atlantic City? Trump built a thirty million dollars parking garage to entice more visitors. However, not enough people were using it, so he turned to CSB who suggested he print promotional parking tickets that when collected could win prizes.. So now you just parking they were like, it's plenty of street parking, but if we do this rub off We might win a bbe. I might scratch my ass off in some free parking. other bres What kind of priz would be talking, Jack for going to a parking garage is wild to me. So these prizes included Walkmans. That was the time, cash Eernity of vacations. It not vacations til you die So you go to the upper room or even a Cadillac Chuck simply needed James to pose as the winner of the Grand Prize and sell it for cash with a kickback to the company' CBS. Over several days, an assistant collected enough tickets until James came to claim the Cadillac Alante convertible Grand Prize worth fifty five thousand dollars, which is about one hundred forty thousand dollars today with inflation. So this is the hypnotist., it kind of still look a little clean. It's definitely given eightyies Oh cars were so square in the eighties. I love. I rock that right now They're like square looks like the future. So it look. It was three days after J Right, it looked even though it's like not older. Make it look like a brick. Bicks be fast But with a wheel? What wheels. A brick a wheel. Yeah, that's gonna get everybody. They go know I got money. okay when I'm driving out with my rectangular vehicle. Love that. However, three days after James won, the nineteen eighty seven stock market crash occurred. also known as Black Monday, That's so whyild because I brought up Black Monday earlier that TV show on Showtime. It's good y'all three seasons, get into it Suddenly, no one wanted to buy the car. They eventually sold it for half price and James ended up keeping four thousand dollars but was stuck with a tax bill on the entire pze That comes back to that Oprah, you get a car, you get a car, you get a car When Oprah gave out all them cars. They didn't pay the taxes for them teachers to have them cars and a lot of them ended up having to sell it or having to pay like seven grand in gift tax. So O of the actually got a G six, a Pontac GT, or something like that Anyway, I can't remember I thought it was a Toyota. No, it was I don't think it was a Toyota. I think it was a Pontiac or some from Michigan That was a meanain leak ' they were so excited. And then Uncle Sam was waiting right outside the door of the studio like, he, Be you get these keys, Rummy minds. I' like the whole point is we're broke. That's what people be like This is too good to be true. and I never say stuff like that. I go, man, it's too good to be true. Right. And what Yeah. was alive. Still, he immediately used the money to book a plane ticket to Paris for a date with an opera singer. So hes still flexing with this little bit of cash he got, you know. So in addition to continuing to use James to help him win prizes, Chuck also recruited his former cable man Anthony Dandrid. So somebody came and gave him some bootlet cable. He was like, Hey man, you want to make a little money on the side as well Also how you have the same person? How do you have James winning multiple prizes? Nobbody saw the newspaper and was like, Ain't that the same dles?, that's when people read newspaper. so they knew James was. Well James is probably mad. James probably, you know what? James knew the game. James go, I better win again ' I got seventeen thousand dollars in taxes to pay And I ain't bring home before. I'm thirteen and whole Your boy going win again, you hear me? I'm gonna call a real C be aeted him He's like, give me another prize. So Chuck was like, Yeahah, cool, cool, and I'm definitely not doing c crack no. I will make crack don't think I won' Take it back I'll hypnotize you back into it Let me say the magic words, You can be damn bad, Bbarra Abra Don't maybe get to o a c. okay? Woa, don't makebe get to the lap, okay better give me money. So Anthony, the cable manan was lured by Chuck's promises to turn him into the next Bruce Lee. Okay. Now why does the cable manan wantan to be Bruce Lee? Okay As he had recently opened a kung fu school in Richmond, Virginia. So I love how he lures these men with like, I'm gonna get your school popping. He's like What aspirations in life as he's installing the spectrum?'s like, I want to be a kung fu mask. What? That's how you know like, y'all, Okay well man I always wear him one piece jumers We gott out work, he just put the belt on around and went straight to the karate school right now everybody's not kung fu fighting, but if you would like them to be, Some win you shake prizes with me. He start to work with people. never shake anybody' hands He was just bowing up front. He's like, yo, man, just shake my hands and stop bowing. Why are you doing? Oh, I ain't tell you I do K fu. No, man, that's not why I invited you here. Well, I'm need a little something I fix the cable b. I was talking to James. He was telling your cable like, ye, No, no, we don't want that. We don't need that Wh he doing karate hands to my paper box? What is happening? So ifony won the two hundred thousand dollars prize money from Alpo Dog Foods, he would be allowed to keep twenty five thousand to start a National Martial arts Academy where Chuck kept the rest So Chuck and Stephen thought that they'd never get caught as there were no laws yet written about sweepsticks. However, it was one call from a once teenage employee, Lewis, notot Lewis coming back. It's Lewis' girlfriend T the United States Postal Inspection Service. I have told you' all about fucking with the U.S. Mail. They will get you. That led to their downfall. So getting caught. We're wrapping it up. So Katherine Woja Howitz called when Louis, which was her ex boyfriend, arranged for her to win an alpo dog through sweepstickakes and she felt something wasn't right. So her be was like, o, you can win this alo do sweepakes. Why are you called the U. S. inspection on your man? Yeah, He must have been a trash boy. She was supposed to win and didn't win. so because she didn't win, she called the authority. That's how everybody get calledu. If somebody's scoring. You can't cut people out of the money when you're doing crimebody has don' win We all don't win. I'm taking a everybodyody d. 'use now have no liability. I didn't actually win. I can act like I didn't know what was going on. He Y want to go to jail. Him, him him. They told me I was going to get twenty five thousand And then and then what happened? herer plane crashed? H Damn So as a USPIS agent, Dan is a professional hater job, Daniel Smyers began investigating the company behind the competition. James and Chuck were running into trouble with the winners. As they ran through their roster of friends of winners and quotes, they called on more questionable people, which led to the posers actually winning the competition and making off with prizes before CBS could demand their cut.ically As this inspection hater man starts to dig into it winners, the fake winners are like, oh, it's hot over here. Y'all getting in trouble for crime. I'm actually gonna to just win and then I'm above board. And I'm not giving y'all a cut. You know who that is That's them forty nine close friends That's exactly That's in forty nine close people that you would have took on vacation with you That's exactly who that was because you go outside too far, somebody going end up talking. so you try to keep it close, but don't know can't nobody keep their mouth because like here's the thing. If I show up with a boat, you know ain't got boat money You pull up to that apartment complex with a boat like man, I know you have boat money. Oh, bro, now you got to explain to somebody, let them win some Then they come out with this Cat mantro, whatever it's called. and then Now you just got a bunch of apartment people with shit that they don't know how to use And these are liabilities because they're like, I'm snitch on you if you don't let me keep the whole prize because now what is your hold on them? Before they were in on the grip, but now that they know the government on the US. they like, listen, you either let me keep the full two hundred K or I'm calling nine hundred ele I'm telling everybody. tellelling everybody. Alvin lived with his mama how he got a jet ski we go to the beach, you' give us all a run huh We go to the beach. We live in Nashville. There's no beach. beach here. They werere like, look, Chuck, Steve, if y don't let me keep all this prize money, I'm gonna start mailing out letters. Okaykay? It's gonna take three or five business days but people don't know your beach. They're gonna to know you're up They're going to know you're up to something shady. So as they ran through their roster of friends to be winners, they called on more questionable people because now the homeomies who used to do it they're not giving the prize money. So now they're just going, you know, back to the parking lot to find whoever's questionable, whichich led to the posers actually winning the competition and making off with the prizes before CBS could demand their cut. So even Everyone's taking their cut and being like fuck CBS. became more frustrated and unpredictable, even removing Stephven from company accounts and threatening his family when he spoke about it. So again, just like the wedding photographer Pulling a threatening. I mean, what youeen eight What you really going do? Exactly. I mean if I mom win fifty And then I'm saying, I'm keeping fifteen and go, I think I'm going keep this fifty thousand or what you really going do Yeah, who w't check, bo? I mean uness take me to court unless you send some people after me. But I got fifty thousand now. I can higher protection for a little bit. Yeah, Chuck should have invested in the mob But then he would have had even more money taken from him because they're going to get there. Yeah. So in nineteen eighty eight, with mounting lawsuits from former employees and clients, Chuck's unpredictable behavior, Steve left CBS and started his own promotions company with Lewis. So now Chuck left CBS and then took the kid from the parking lot who had called the Feds and made his own company. That doesn't seem smart. No no, Louis girlfriend that. Louis probably know nothing about that. That was Lewis Bot. Yeah, but you're already making weird moves. Why is't your boot selling you out I mean heard Well no. You know what it was because she died in the plane crash two days later, wasn't it Two wee l. No, She d hadied a plane crash in two thousand two. so she was very much alive at this point Oh, I'm sorry I continue. That was just the detail Kallin gave us. So not long after Agent Smyers, the hater, who's been snooping, was able to track down the hypnotist James and kung fu master Anthony. Wh He He gathered enough information to show CBS had been illegally rigging the games. A year and half later, Chuck Steve, James, Anthony and Lewis were officially charged with mail fraud. Mail fraud is that's how they get you. just a bitch With citizens up to thirty years, You can't do fraud in the mail, y'all. You gotta walk to their door, hand it to them. That's how you do fraud. Don't put your fraud in USPS. They will come get you Okay, they got them forever stamps for you o. That's f. That's No, you don't mess with them. So they were collectively estimated to have won around two million dollars, five million dollars in today's money in cash prizes. After admitting to taking LSD four hundred times during proceedings, Chumuck pleaded guilty What? You at court on LSD? What? Chuck is Chuck is an American hero Agst all odds A drop out of high school and then get introduced to crack and men. and then working his way up to scam. I mean, he lasted way longer than end of. I mean, if you going go down, go down in flames. And then he was in the courtroom like, I don't look me, I don't I'm high rightight now We need like a poster I don't you remember like None of what John talkking. Jon. P Gil see Rract that. I'd be like I was high on LSD when I pleed guilty. I didn't even know what you were talking about So Stehven also pled guilty while James and Anthony and Lewis was guilty of trial. I was hypotatized Talk to James about this shit. I've been hypnotized this whole time. He told me to scam and then he never gave me the magic words so I could stop. He never said couldap. He feilled me So that's why I was scaring me So but I love that Anthony Lewis and James were like, we innocent and they were like, we're going to trial to fight this. And they were like, no, you're going to jail. you're definitely guilty. The latter were sentenced to five years probation in ordder to pay thousands of dollars in restitution. So James, Anthony, and Lewis only got five years of probation. They just had to pick up trash, which means they definitely snitch. They went in there and just started listening They flip. I love that. You they're doing more flips than Sone biles. Is flip. I mean, you know, it's hard to go to like real prison or something federal when you mail, come on. Yeah, no I would have flipped too. I like, how many names y'all want? If my mama got unpaid parking tickets, what how much do you need Get me out of here. Give me a pen a piece of paper, big magins and fries. I write down everybody. I can't go to real prison. Yeah, no, we're not going to prison prison. So Stehen and Chuck were ordered to pay more than a million dollars of restitution to the companies that they had ripped off and both were sentenced to two years in prison. twoo ain' bang. Both were permanently banned from the sweep sex industry, but by the time Chuck was sent to prison in nineteen ninety, he had set up a new company and ran a number of competitions for his old client Donald Trump. Y'all both criminals, y'all both scammers. This seems like a good partnership I M fake Terfectly imp. I'm impressed I'm in as much as I hate these people They know how to do wrong, right They do once again. it is. I love Chuck. He's a very good guy He's just visiting jail for a couple of years. Never heard of him Never heard of him. That's right. You're right, That's what it would be. Like, I never met the guy Juck. sounds like something I had for lunch when I was I've never heard of them You're true. That's exactly what would happen. So the industry almost immediately died down after Kraft mistakenly printed five hundred thousand winning tickets for one of its campaigns instead of one, resulting in four million dollars of compensation. Damn, why wasn't I buying singles at this time? I wasn't alive. Damnit Oh. So James has since made a career as a Las Vegas hypnotist specializing in hypnotizing NBA players struggling with confidence problems Yips for the league. hisames I was like I need to go I to get out of the. I need to get out of the scam business and go do the Lowerers's work magic. It's like Shackaxs. It's like you're gonna make the free throws. You're gonna make the free throws O my or my or my cowboys kicker who couldn't make these field goals Oh man. I'm a cowboy fan aowbys.ybody you' a cowbys. I'm a cowboys fan. Oh So you love pain It is a hard. You don't get your hopes up. It's an abusive relationship. It's all emotional abuse, but it happens. It is. And then Jerry coming out trying to keep the black people from going to school. I was like Jerry, no I to be aS. G Lord not Not showing the black and white photos, doing the doing we figured you was a racist, but like like quiet. hold it racism might k get, but come on man, burn these pitches, Bh. Hey you got so much money. We got new stadiums even though we haven't won a Super Bowl. like I was a Cowboyys M minanicamp when I was five had pictures of me in the uniform. Like My first we can't My first starter jacket was was nineteen ninety two Actually I had a pro starter. I just got the real starter two years ago for Christmas. throwback from like a consignment vintage store. So yes, I've been I've been on I've been on for a minute Anyways, our scam being scammed by L love in the cowboys. So Absolutely. Stephen went on to own a Philadelphia strip club called Daydreams. All right.one Stehven has had many careers. He's a serial entrepreneur and I love that for him. He was selling panties, cars, scam rub offs. and now he's owning a strip club. Okay, Stephven So Anthony was able to expand his kung Fu operations to fifteen other states. Wow. operations That's what I'm talking. Yeah, that's how you say that Kung fu operations Hey, you better have you LLC. It's giving LLC Twitter. It truly is K Fu operations. Kung Fu operations He went out and bought a bunch of different colored belts and said let's go Kep been People out there like on the power poles how Hey man, my cboy work Ason as I finish this set.. He can break a cable by to half with a can kids are like, why don't we have wood? He's like, now y'all better to break these cable boxs I' gonna tch you. He trying to point like theyre take this poll out of two weeks. now give me eight hours. I get this shit down.ust keep shopping away at it. I also feel like at his kung fu schools, it's not just like white belt and then yellow or whatever. He's like white belt cream belt off cream. He's like keeping up coming back. You have reached zebra belll Okay, man, ain't no zebra bells around here. What kind of school is this? What kind of karate school is this You got cheetahill. okay? You're so close to black working and keep coming and paying for my comfort trying to make you animal m with animal with discipline Okay Okaykay, Anthony. Next week we open in Ohio. Okay, stop it, Anthony We got a new location. It W Pon, The Cn belelt. Also all of this was taking place in New Jersey, which makes absolute sense and Chuck developed an internet scratch off game and even partnered with Microsoft to run them. I love that Chuck can't lose Microsoft. It's Bill Gates in there. This is give me a real catch me if you can I love it. He did a little stint in jail. They're like, Oh, your resume has a gap. He was like, Oh yeah, took I took two years off to find myself in federal prison quiet sil. Bill Do you know what you're doing? I'm the best by I'm hearing Yeah I took some time to work out, read,, you know, be on in the yard. You know, if you can scan people this long, you got to be the best. Truly So he passed away in August of two thousand nine from liver cancer. Donald Trump continued to use sweepstakes in his political campaigns promising a chance to win a dinner with President Donald Trump in New Orleans for donations of any amount. Not you doing the dinner with J Z Donald Trump. However, no winner was ever announced and a Trump representative said there had been an administrative error. Yeah. What was that error? Fraud. . somethingation shouldn't be like, Ohh, I didn't get this stuff. There was an administrative error forot to administrate the stuff that we told you you would get. I've been buying stuff on What's the website? I've been buying stuff on. What's one where people make stuff at home and then you buy it Etsy? Etsy? Yeah, I inv bought my dog would call it three times ' the people call me back my a, I forgot about it. I'm like, give my money back. L why? Beause you didn't make What we agreed on That's why. why But what? They gave you the gym mentership that were like wait, why want your money back? because what I do You shouldn't get what I said I was What you were supposed to do. That's what you did. You didn't do what you were supposed. we were vibing. We only to mail us. Mail us a letter. tellell us what that. You know what, K forty five dollars because you know I write no goddamn letter. You know Iin write no letter Go to the post office, tell us what we did in writing and then we'll send you the money backag, okay? Oh well that brings us to The saddest part of the show, the part where I have to let Tone go. But before we do that, a quick mer of the week This is where we highlight Chlotte's' worth of our praayise or maybe not. and today we're talking about nineteen year old Madison Russo, who's been caught after scamming thirty seven thousand dollars from forty nine concerned donors after falsely claiming she had pancreatic cancer So Matie was arrested on january twenty third on first degree felony theft Tenager. Oh, she's a teenager. Oh let her Free. She's a kid she playing on the internet Oh, she it's not giving teenagers. I mean, that's a That's a hard ship face. That's why the people donate. They' like she she must have it rough. Yeah, it's giving she's been living hard. That's a lot That's a lot of wear. Yes. So she documented her cancer in quot' battle on TikTok and through her Go Fundme page and claimed to have had a tumor the size of a football wrapped around her spine Cstant warning this girl is wearing an offensive mount of tanner Oh wow Kaywin, I'll kill you. She is wearing a lot of tanner and it might be contributing to her old age look. Spe is fruit leather, but We sa Listen, if you saw Charlie in the chocolate factory, you were like, that's my look. f like, you know, when car dripping oil and they pull out a parking spot but it's raining and they had like that rainbow Listen, I don't knowally trash talkock kids, but she scammed people andire very serious disease. so yeah, fuck them kids for this one. So she also claimed to have given talks about her health at events for the National Pancreatic Cancer Foundation, which the foundation denies. So she was like, oh, I was just doing a speaking engagement. we couldn't video in there. It was no cameras. fiance's like a raw cinnabun Like it just got all the cinam and the sugar on it but it ain't been baked yet Oh no, that's a perfect description. it is tearing me apart. No And I love this mug shhot because her eyes are so wide she's like, Dang. got it It looks like she's startled. It looks like they snatched her from wherever she was and immediately made her take a photo. Like she's still in shock This she got caught. N she got halfway through a makeup Right, She was probably on TikTok beating her face talking about her fake cancer, like Like Ow, it hurts today. Like what girl This nose. She ain't get below the nose. All that wrong. Yeah. Yeah, we're giveing two different skin tones. They got They call her mid bronzer for sure. They're like, handands up. putut the bronzer down. Put the herot in urn and step rush The beauty Blender Put your hands in the air Lay on your face So Maddie began to be discovered in early January when witnesses claiming to be medical professionals anonymously contacted authorities saying they believe there to be many medical discrepancies in her social media posts. Now Google is free Madie. Why don't you Google this? This included incorrectly and potentially life threatening use of medical equipment in addition to allegedly stealing photos from actual cancer patients and posting them as her own. The Go Fumy page was still taking donations until it was taken down in late January with a message Madie is currently undergoing vigorous chemotherapy and radiation treatments that are making her very sick.wh Maddie is has transferred these funds to her bank of America.. So all donors will be refunded and Maddie is permanently banned from the platform. She was released on a ten thousand dollars bond hours after her arrest and is currently awaiting court. I don't know if we put Maddie in jail for a fake go fund me. I just feel like that platform, you gotta know that maybe when you give your ten sympathy dollars, they're not going to the right place. Who gives a shit I don't know. I think look maybe not prison, but she should have to go teach. S to in a city school with People to come. Teach She just go, You don't to s you wantan to sick this person on us No in person in person and just let these out. You know how rude high schoolers are now They give her hail. I mean They going snap so hard that I mean her emotions, h her insides That feel like she She can feel like she had a tum. That's what's gonna feel like. It's gonna to feel like she had a tumor. byy the time these high school kids get done with it. Let them have a cell phes or TikTok. They ruin her ego That's what anS theyation should do. Hey you go drop a canano.. T k look at community service and something that's productive. I don't know if I would say jail, but also not pictured here, but I saw photos about this when I saw the story. She was using medical equipment and like taping fake things to her chest and like really when I sa you she was given cosplay like she was in the hospital, she really sold it That's why you should have a licenseude. I mean, because you can go get it If she go to a medical supply store we' wearing scrubs, somebody going to sell it to her. she just change clothes and put a gown on.. You can't be trusting these picts, man. You can buy hospital gowns all willy, nilly. You're right about that. You know how people look L at his f her face She got a pair of cord iPhone iPhone headphones are gonna stck them deep in her those so we can't tell. She just she is out here like this. She just y'all can't see me at home, but she's just out here. You like,h the wait, wait let me dug in Wait this side is it doing? Let me tking it. Let me be tking it thiside There we go. Do I look sick? Do I look sick now? Is this wor That say. Also who are her friends and family? She has good friends and family because they did not snitch and clearly they would know if she was in treatment. The medical professionals snitched on her on TikTok. Not her mom and not, her dady and not any friends. She got a loyal community in circle. unlike Chuck and Steve. I wonder if her pares around. What what mama say? They got a quote from my m or some down there. What did mama say I was like, I don't know her. L Matdie's always been distant with mentalalth. come on man, Maddie, a creep. Yeah iso. Also, why would you think that you could go this public, especially TikTok, That's where the girls are like G to research you. They're going to be in the comments. They got all the terminology for every illness disease. Why would you think? And they love to be detectives. Txt like people love to be like, o, y'all can't solve this cold case. I will. Txt likein't nothing but social slutes. That's exactly what they are That's exactly what they are I What did you say how she got calledu? How' she get caught again? It was medical professionals who started to tip off like the police and stuff because they were like, none of this is adding up in these photos, they're reverse image searching and realizing they're not her photos. Yeah, TikTok is the Harri at the Spy app. donon't go on their're lying because they got magnifying glasses and they will find you. They will find you. And then they'll make their own TikToks about. You shouldn't even have as much energy in this state to put a TikTok guy like this Well, Madison, I hope you don't have to go to the clink But I hope you learned your lesson. I'm appalled. I don't Madison's done. If you lie that hard, you went on Amazon and bought you some medical equipment she's going to be like Chuck. She'll continue doing it. It's probably working for Microsoft before you know Round one, This probably she probably did a soft one just to open up and then this one took off quick and she could like shut it down. Stop Lge scam. Yeah. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that's how I would have done it And you are an expert. We got an expert on the ph. expert, expert. x expert expert. I never did stuff with the computers with the computers. I never did stuff with the computers. Yes, no. And allegedly did other stuff. We don't know you know what? I don't think it did anything. I guys like all hears say these days. truly. allegedly, allegedlyeg And that brings us to the end of an amazing podcast. Thank you so much Tom for being here. We always ask our guests where, wouldould you like to be found any socials shows websites with the in all that Watch Drink Masses on Netflix. I got a new show coming out with Michelle Butau and Tasha Smith C survival, the thickest on Netflix in a few months, I'm sure tririgger warning Coyote versus Ame coming out theaters of summer Instagram is is Tone Bell T O N E B O L. And I just started TikTok actually. I didn't have a TikTok and then so I just got on TikTok. I'm trying to figure that out and then I' be out here in the streets just on tour making people laugh. So U ye,s that's me. Yes. And as always guys, stitch on your friends and family at scam Gispod at Gmail d. com and if you want to find me DIBA LAC ID Lacy on all platforms. if you want to see all of these wild ass photos, scam gotis pod on Instagram. If you wantan to chat with me, scam got us pod on Twitter, cononggregation B You know, get out there and get your truck on. Never quit. Never stop.. is This has been an earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Godddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mososeley, AKA, the Scam Godddess. O producer is Judith Cargbo, ourur recording engineer is Abby Aguilar, and our audio editor is Jesse Karen. Research for the show is done by Kaalin Brant. Stay scaming