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Artemis: Why Are We Really Going Back to the Moon?

Apr 9, 202634 min
Summary

In this episode of Science Vs, host Wendy Zuckerman explores the motivations behind the modern push to return to the moon via the Artemis missions. While space exploration is often framed as a high-stakes political competition between global powers, the episode investigates whether there is more to the endeavor than mere international posturing. The discussion begins by examining the "lunar gold rush" theory, specifically the potential for mining rare earth elements and helium-3. Experts clarify that while these resources exist on the moon, they are currently impractical to extract and process compared to sustainable methods on Earth. The show also evaluates the moon’s utility as a stepping stone to Mars. Scientists explain that, rather than serving as a simple launching pad, the moon acts as an essential training ground to test technology and human endurance for deeper space travel. Finally, the episode highlights the scientific potential of lunar-based infrastructure, such as placing telescopes on the moon's far side to study the universe's "dark ages." Ultimately, the podcast suggests that while lunar missions are historically rooted in political rivalry, they consistently yield profound scientific breakthroughs and technological advancements for humanity.

Updated Apr 12, 2026

About This Episode

The moon race is back! NASA’s Artemis II mission just sent four astronauts around the moon. And other countries — and billionaires — are lining up to take a crack at returning to the moon too. But why are we really going? Some say this is a lunar gold rush, that countries want to mine the moon for resources. Others are saying the real reason to go to the moon today is that it’ll help us get to Mars. To find out, we talk to engineer Dr. Angel Abbud-Madrid, physicist Prof. Nicolle Zellner, and astronomer Prof. Gregg Hallinan.  [REBROADCAST] Find our transcript here: https://tinyurl.com/ScienceVsGoingBackToMoon  This episode was produced by Meryl Horn and Ekedi Fausther-Keeys, with help from Wendy Zukerman, Rose Rimler, Meryl Horn, and Michelle Dang. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Fact checking by Diane Kelly. Mix and sound design by Bumi Hidaka. Music written by Bumi Hidaka, Peter Leonard, Emma Munger and Bobby Lord. Thanks to the researchers we got in touch with for this episode, including Dr. Tom Simko, Professor Jack Burns, Dr. Paul Byrne, Dr. Martin Elvis, Dr. John Mather, Dr. Jennifer Whitten, Dr. Ian Crawford, Dr. Simon J Lock, and Dr. Greg De Temmerman. Special thanks to Chris Suter, Jack Weinstein, the Zukerman family, the Fausther-Keeys family, and Joseph Lavelle Wilson. Science Vs is a Spotify Studios Original. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us and tap the bell for episode notifications.  In this episode, we cover: (00:00) We’re going back to the moon! (06:23) Should we dig up rare earth elements on the moon? (10:05) Should we go back to the moon for Helium-3?(14:54) The moon as a training ground for Mars (19:55) The FARSIDE telescope: a portal into the universe’s history (27:12) So is it worth returning to the moon? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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