Jail Calls and Final Reflections

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Now, if you are brand new listening to this podcast or watching this YouTube channel for the very first time, let me just give you a breakdown. My name is Annie and what I like to do on here is not only deliver and present a true crime case to you, but do it in a way where it is the full deep dive, goingo down the rabbit hole so that you don't have to. All the details, the social media activity, past relationships, everything that you find yourself googling yourself when you're watching a documentary. I find all that information out and then I present all of it to you But my goal in doing that is to do it in more of a conversational way. as if your friend or best friend was telling you about this case that they just heard about and that they can't stop researching or thinking about or talking about Again, if you're brand new, that's what we do over here. If you enjoy it, subscribe and follow the podcast. And, you know How it goes every single Monday, a brand new case. and then every Thursday, I do an episode called Headline Highlights, where I talk about everything happening in real time that week in the true crime world Now today, we are doing one of the infamous deep dives. And you may have heard about this case if you listen to trrue crime or follow trrue crime. You may have also seen clips of the trial or footage from the case in your TikTok feed or your Instagram reels feed becausecause it's the case of Mackenzie Sherilla a name that a lot of people do know, but many don't. You also might be familiar with the name because Netflix just released a documentary about this case called The Crash. And what's really interesting is there's a lot of division with this case. Many people believe that what happened was intentional, that this is, you know, the product and result of spoiled young girl who had everything in her life and then the moment she something went wrong, she decided to take it out on everybody else Wh some say, no, this was absolutely accidental. She was too young to know how severe this was going to be and what her actions would truly cause. and there's a little bit of conflicting opinion out there Now, I will say this personally. I first covered MackKenzie's case years ago and with that I have done extensive research. I've interviewed a lot of people close to the case. I participated in a documentary back then where I was shown a lot of privileged information before it even went to trial, differentere things like that to where my belief is that this was absolutely intentional But again, not everybody agrees with that. And that's certainly okay, which that's my point and why I'm coming on here today. I want to present the case to you with a set of fresh eyes, new perspectives, everything we've learned, things that have come out post trial, so that then you can really decide for yourselves What do you believe? Do you believe that this is all just a horrific tragic accident Or do you believe that this was calculated and intentional? So Let's start here. I want you for just a moment to imagine being a teenager again. because and I say again because I feel like a lot of you aren't teens. I feel like we skew a little older over here. so but if you are teen, you're involved too. but I want you to imagine being a teenager and you're just graduating high school. It's that super exciting time in your life where you're young, you're full of life, you have dreams, ambitions, there's parties, there's excitement. and like you just can't wait for what's to come. But then You get word that three other teenagers who live in your area, potentially even are classmates of yours, were in a deadly car crash. And even more than that, one of the worst car crashes that first responders had ever seen in the Ohio area. It rattled the entire community. There was shock, grief, confusion But above all else There were a lot of rumors, rumors that took what seemed to be a very simple yet tragic car accident into something potentially far worse So let's jump right in. In the early morning of july thirty first, twenty twenty two, the peaceful suburb of Strongsville, Ohio, nestled just outside of Cleveland became the scene of a heart wrenching tragedy that rocked its tight knit community forever Initial reports began to surface about a devastating car accident involving three people. nineteen year old Davy on Flanagan. twenty year old Dominiic Russo and seventeen year old Mackenzie Shrilla Both Davon and Mcenzie had just graduated from Strongsville High School just a few months earlier. Early on in the investigation, law enforcement believed that Mackenzie Sherilla somehow lost control of the Toyota Camry that she was driving and then crashed into a brick building on Alameda Drive at five hundred thirty four It wasn't til approximately forty five minutes later at six fifteen AM that a passerbyer, a runner, who was out for their morning jog, came upon the wreckage and immediately dialed nine hundred and eleven When law enforcement arrived, they found all three passengers unconscious, unresponsive, and trapped within what was now just a brutally mangled car frame. The first responders from Strongsville Fire Department worked quickly to help get Dominic, Davon, and Mackenzie out of the car Unfortunately, though, both Dominic and Davion were declared dead at the scene. Mackenzie, who was driving the car, was critically injured and flown to Metro Health Medical Center. Investigators waited for the results of her blood testing, which would show if drugs or alcohol played a role in this crash. The victims' families and the community were completely grief stricken and frankly, just sick about this Dominic and Davion now had their potential dreams and futures abruptly cut short Dominic had started a successful business and always talked about all of his big plans for the future And Davion was a fantastic football player, well known in the community and had plans to open up his own barber shop after high school But now, all of that was gone in an instant. The community's sadness and loss eventually led to many questions Why was this a one car accident If Mackenzie lost control of the car, how did that happen What was going on inside the car leading up to this? Was MackKenzie intoxicated or under the influence of some type of drug Why were all three of them even over on Alamina Street in that part of town in the early morning hours to begin with It's not near where Mackenzie, Dominiic or Daveon lived. So where were they going And how could this possibly happen Mackenzie underwent extensive medical treatment for her injuries and somehow survived miraculously However, she said that she couldn't remember what happened leading up to the crash. She said that she had blacked out. Now just for a moment, I am going to draw on my personal experience for a second A lot of you know who have been with me for a while on here, that you know that I was in a horrific car accident when I was sixteen years old I wasn't wearing my seatbelt, I flew hit the windshield, knocked out some teeth, ended up having brain surgery from how awful this car accident was. And I can say even now I still I do not remember anything from that accident. and I wasn't the one driving, but I was in the accident and I'm still blacked out. I remember leaving the house that morning. I don't remember the accident I don't remember The final the moments coming out of the accident, the first memory I have is when first responders were already there on scene and they were cutting me out of my clothing and getting me out of the car. But I don't remember anything else. There has been a lot of speculation if Mackenzie was in fact blacked out during the accident or not or even has a recollection of the memories leading up to the accident itself. and if that's true or not. And I while I don't know in her situation, if she's lying or if it were true, and we'll talk more about that as we go on, but I do want to mention that it is entirely possible to black out even the events leading up to the collision itself, because for me, that is what exactly what happened. So while law enforcement began going further into their investigation, many people in the community began to talk And the community had strong yet mixed feelings about what they thought happened here. Some people thought that this was just a tragic accident But others who knew Mackenzie and Dominic and knew them more closely, began to believe that this wasn't an accident at all And instead, it was something far more sinister. Mackenzie and Dominic began dating in twenty twenty one, and they had an overall tumultuous relationship They would break up, get back together, and then they would do it all over again. The pattern just was on a repeat. And I know that that can be sort of a vague statement, saying that a relationship you, is tumultuous. but we're going get into their relationship more in just a little bit here. so stick with me. because A lot of information has come out since I first covered this case. Davon was one of Dominic's close friends According to news reports, Davion, Dominiic, and Mackenzie were hanging out at a party and smoking a little bit of weed the night leading up to the crash, and Mackenzie and Dominic offered to give Davionne a ride home. MackKenzie was described by people who knew her in high school as selfish and entitled, and she never had to really take any accountability for her actions. She always just kind of got away with everything After Mackenzie began to recover from the accident, many of the posts on her Instagram and TikTok really upset people as well. and we will get into specifically what she posted here shortly. don't worry Most of her social media has now been deleted, so I couldn't find much except for a few screenshots here and there. However, people in the community who knew her from school commented on social media about Mackenzie's behavior, and all of those comments are still public. Some of the posts said that her parents knew about her drug use and that her mom would like some of the pictures that she posted when she was smoking weed. and some pictures sparked outrage because people thought that she just was moving on with her life, as if nothing ever happened with no remorse at all There were also some pictures Mackenzie posted with her and her friend dressed as a weed for Halloween, which also caused a huge stir online Several classmates weren't surprised that this horrific tragedy resulted from Mackenzie's actions, even going as far as to say that she probably would have killed someone one day anyway, and that she only cared about herself and herself only. Other people felt like Mcenzie had definitely done drugs and that that is what caused the crash, and the police seemed like they weren't doing anything about it And now this was another situation where Mackenzie would just get away with her selfish and dangerous behavior once again. Well, all of that online speculation and discussion over what happened that tragic night wouldn't matter for much longer, because a few days after Halloween, everything changed. It turned out that the police were not letting Mackenzie get away with anything And they had been conducting a thorough investigation this entire time On november fourth, twenty twenty two, Mackenzie was arrested. According to court documents, Mackenzie faced a total of eighteen charges. Counts one and two, aggravated murder. Counts three, four, five, and six, murder Counts at seven, eight, nine, and ten, felonious assault Counts eleven and twelve, aggravated vehicular homicide. All of these charges were related to that crash on july thirty first, twenty twenty two Count thirteen, trafficking Count fourteen, drug possession, and both of these charges were for the magic mushrooms that were found inside the car. Count fifteen, possessing criminal tools, and this was for a digital scale that was found in the car So there were fifteen charges in total related to the car crash and to the deaths of Dominic and Davion The other three charges were for allegedly breaking into the Columbia Church of God in Columbia Station on july nineteenth, twenty twenty two Those charges were count sixteen breaking and entering, count seventeen vandalism eighteen desecration MackKenzie's blood test from the hospital revealed that she had THC in her system and that she was likely high at the time of the accident after their investigation and talking to witnesses who saw her that night. Even though mushrooms were found in her car, this was apparently not in her test result. Mackenzie's bail was set at five hundred thousand dollars, but she didn't get bailed out of jail and remained in juvenile custody until it was time for trial The bodycam footage of Mackenzie's arrest was finally released in twenty twenty five and I have to be real with you, it's an absolute doozy. and I don't use that word lightly. I personally hate that word. And I don't want to give too much away before I show you guys some of the clips, which for those of you who are listening to the audio version of this, you'll be able to hear what's happening, but I do encourage you pop over to YouTube, watch the visual as well because I think that will provide more context. But what I have to say, is that Mackenzie shows absolutely zero remorse. zero remorse for any of the crimes that she was being charged with can be Stopop foring I'm Detective Kazoo,. I'm the one who's been investigating the crash. You're under arrest for aggravated murder times too. Okay. Nobody's gonna ask you any questions. Nobody's gonna bother you. Can I have your feat, please. Could you please be careful taking this one your off so it doesn't break the bracelet? You got it. You got it. Okay, Mc take your gcuffs off I need like all the jewel interview from mon un okay I can't wear here it. No, I need you to take it off while you're in jail right now I can't wear this. Now unfortunately, everything's going have to come off right now once we know. when the detective comes back and we know for sure what's going on. Everything's going to be bagged up here. It's not going anywhere this is like one of those which is really hard to get off. Let's try to take your time. Her first response to being told that she was being charged with murder was to take care of a bracelet. Take your her bracelet so that it didn't break. And then after being told that she could not wear any jewelry in jail, which obviously should be common sense, right? 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That's shopify. com slash Annie Since she was a minor at the time of the crash and charged as such, there weren't many public details about this case that were released However, all that changed in March of twenty twenty three when prosecutors and the judge agreed to try her as an adult. When the crash occurred on july thirty first, twenty twenty two, Mackenzie was seventeen irthday is on august second So she turned eighteen just two days after everything happened She had a hearing in April of twenty twenty three via Zoom, where Mackenzie pleaded not guilty as the judge continued her bond at five hundred thousand dollars But again, Mackenzie remained in custody. During the hearing, the prosecution told the court The evidence in this case overwhelmingly indicates that these were intentional and purposeful deaths On july nineteenth, twenty twenty three, almost a year after the horrific crash, Mackenzie had her first pretrial hearing. During the hearing, MackKenzie did not accept a plea deal that the prosecution was offering, and her lawyer indicated that they were prepared for trial. In the US, you have a right to a trial by jury or a bench trial. If defendants want to waive their right to a trial by jury for whatever reason, they can. And this can be a defense strategy if for some reason, they're worried about what a jury verdict would be Some defendants may feel like they would have more of a fair shot if the judge were to decide their verdict based on the law, fearing that potential jurors would make their decision based on emotion and not the law necessarily. However, that isn't the only reason that people waive trial by jury There are a number of reasons why people choose that route Additionally, defendants do not have to provide a reason to the court for their decision to waive a jury trial So with that, that's what Mackenzie chose. and her bench trial was set for august seventh. The first day of trial began on august seventh, just five days after MackKenzie's nineteenth birthday During opening statements, the prosecution detailed all of the moments leading up to the devastating crash six fifteen in the morning, Strongsville Police and emergency personnel I'll receive the nine hundred and eleven call. They revealed the black box inside McKenzie's vehicle had been clocked at one hundred miles per hour Back booxes aren't the official term. It's an EDR or event data recorder, but these devices record driving and vehicle data from immediately before, during, and after an automobile crash And that wasn't all They also had cold, hard evidence to prove this, because when the accident occurred, a nearby building security camera caught the entire thing on video. In the video, you can see McKenzie's car going extremely fast before disappearing off the screen and ultimately crashing The prosecution also said that this didn't just happen based on reckless driving either And they would present a witness who overheard Mackenzie's threats. That he observed at that time the defendant striking Dominic Russo with both hands and that he overheard her make a statement An admisible statement and she said, Dominic, I'm going to crash this car We find that it is especially been important to her state of mind just two weeks later when she used the car to kill Dominic Russo Despite this, McKenzie's lawyer, Mr. McDonnelld, of course had a much different perspective. He argued against the insinuation of intent. Instead, he said that this was a tragic accident rather than a premeditated act. How can you come to any conclusion other than if anything, she's reckless Is it just kids being kids Is it Dominant grabbing the steering wheel Is it MackKenzie, maybe speeding and say, Ohh my God, Dark out, it's light. I'm coming up to this. I better do something and she goes like that to avoid an accident, not acting purposely, but in fact trying to avoid it Is it su sudden acceleration Can it Those are all possibilities. mister McDonalll also said that the side airbags going off in the final seconds before the crash could have contributed to the severity of the event He said, and I quote, it occurred in about four and a half to five seconds before. It's a significant force that makes a huge sound There's talalcum powder or some type of powder that is let go If they only have five seconds of recordings and those five seconds are all what happens after the airbag is deployed, how can you come to any conclusion other than if anything, she's reckless During the course of the four day trial, many first responders and other witnesses were called to the stand. It turns out that there was more to the crash than just that video of Mackenzie flying by at a one hundred miles per hour. There was another building that captured footage of Mcenzie turning on the street before pressing on the gas. In this video, you can see McKenzie driving at a completely normal speed Baking as she prepared to turn as well Her blinker was on and was signaled to the correct direction that she was going This video was key to the prosecution's argument that this was intentional and wasn't some wild situation where she was driving completely out of control the entire time. Even worse, experts spoke about the EDR box in Mackenzie's car and said that through their investigation They were able to determine that Mcenzie had the gas pedal pushed all the way down and made no attempt to ever even use the brakes. The crash team analyst also said about one second before the crash, the steering wheel made a hard right turn of one hundred forty two point five degrees. It also showed the impact from a sign in the grass outside of the building, which may have triggered the airbags before slamming into the brick wall MackKenzie's attorney questioned the analyst about the wheel moving in an attempt to insinuate that it's possible that one of the victims moved the wheel by saying that it's basically impossible to know who pulled that wheel and caused the crash. He also suggested that because it was dark, maybe it was hard for MackKenzie to see But even in his defense, he conceded that MackKenzie's handling of the car was in fact reckless When the prosecution reviewed the crash scene photos and the photos of the victims during their autopsies, everyone in the courtroom was extremely emotional, including Mackenzie. Dominic's mother, Christine Russo testified. The courtroom vibe changed instantly when she began her testimony Everyone could tell that she had once cared deeply for Mackenzie After all, Mackenzie had even lived with them for a while. The love story that she painted between MackKenzie and her son Dominic, Far from Rosie. It seemed like they were always at odds with threats and arguments overshadowing the good times She also brought up a text message that Mcenzie sent her after the crash where MackKenzie said, I remember turning onto the street and then my vision fades to black It really kills me not being able to remember anything I promise you I would tell you I've been asking my therapist why I don't remember, and she said it's because of trauma, but I'm going to try to get hypnotized and make myself remember Then Dominic's older brother, Angelo Russo took his turn The raw emotion in his voice said it all He talked about how MackKenzie and his brother were constantly on and off again, saying I witnessed a lot of negative behavior from her to my brother. and that just kind of pushed me away as a big brother figure because she just wasn't fair to him One of Dominic's friends Christopher Hench Martin, was also called to the stand to testify. This was to testify about an incident between Mackenzie and Dominic in a heated fight where she threatened him. According to court documents, on july seventeenth, twenty twenty two, approximately two weeks before the deadly crash MackKenzie was driving her vehicle on Interstate seventy one with victim Dominic Russo as the passenger when she threatened to immediately crash the vehicle. Mackenzie was upset over a disagreement between the two of them, which resulted in Dominiic seeking the help of his mother, Christine Russo, through a phone call asking her to come and pick him up. Dominiic's friend, Christopher Hench Martin, went to pick up Dominiic and remained on the phone with Dominiic during the incident while on the phone He heard Mackenzie state, I will crash this car right now MackKenzie exited the highway onto route eighty two between Pearl Road and Bagley Road As the friend pulled up to get Dominiic and MackKenzie's car pulled over to the side of the road, the passenger door opened, and the friend observed MackKenzie striking Dominiic with both of her hands Dominic then exited the vehicle and left with his friend. The prosecution also brought up another incident in July of twenty twenty two between MackKenzie and Dominic According to court documents, in July of twenty twenty two within the same month as the deadly crash. Mackenzie again made multiple threats toward Dominic Videos recovered from Dominiic's cell phone revealed the altercation involving Mackenzie, where she can be heard repeatedly degrading Dominiic. threatening him and damaging his property It is understood from the videos that Dominic was not comfortable letting Mackenzie inside of his home at the time, and he made multiple attempts to reason with MackKenzie to calm the defendant down and communicate with the defendant in a better manner McKenzie refused these attempts and can be heard banging on Dominic's house door, demanding to be let inside. MackKenzie called Dominic a multitude of degrading and highly inappropriate names Despite Dominic's efforts trying to reason with Mackenzie, she refused to listen and continued her erratic behavior Exceedingly important are the threats made by MackKenzie to Dominic throughout the incident threatened to key Dominiic's car if he would not let her in, and she verbally counted down multiple times in an attempt to force Dominic to let her in She repeatedly told Dominic that this was his last chance to let her in And she stated, and I quote, If you're gonna come open this door right now, or there's gonna be a serious fucking problem She threatened to break the handle off the door and can be heard hitting and damaging the door as well. MackKenzie stated, and I quote, Dom, I'm going to give you one last second or else I'm king your car Dominiick then had to call his mom for help and stopped recording. Now that phone call that I just described has actually been made public The original call was about nine minutes long, but honestly, it doesn't really take the full nine minutes to see that Mackenzie was threatening him. She was antagonizing him. But I forgot up with me You are a little fucking weak bitch. You broke up with earlier. broke up with me earlier. This is your last chance to open the door or you are not coming out of this house all night becauseuse I will not leave You literally broke you literally broke up with me earlier really what was the point you in trying of like you broke up with me like Ely No No I no I did it. I didn't. I didt I did it. said we're not. really said that should. Like you really both on me re. likeike what are you trying to make? Like ike, whyy would I just let you in myind if you break up with me and you're thing to break my shit? 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Now you out of a place that you say is my own Be I't think you are. You put all your shit in de And said we were done not say we are done. D Okay, ready I'm going gonna to attend. The door is gonna to open, okay You're gonna to open the door and stop hiding behind the door like a little fucking bitch. You hang up on me, we're done I'm leaving. Ken there's nothing I could do. Like' I can't imagine stop being a little bit. I can't let you in my house with how you're acting. Like it's the simplpleest that. Like there's no way out There's no way I should. L We should have break the analock. It's already moving I can break the lock. likeike you're really gonna break into my house. Yes, I will. I will break into my house. You're right. I will break into it. It's not not your house. My. Dam not open the door Now open the door. thirty seconds left on the phone call to open the door. we're done So if you're wondering how all of these prior acts were able to be brought into trial in the first place, since it's technically four hundred four B evidence, it's because the prosecution filed motions to allow it in, saying that it went to McKenzie's motive. According to court documents, the prosecution believed Mcenzie's past threats and aggression toward Dominic provided an important perspective of how Mackenzie responds in situations where she is displeased or in disagreement with others Further, the evidence shows that she was aware of her ability to cause harm to the victims, especially by means of her own vehicle and how she could use the power of threats and control to ultimately reach the outcome that she desired The other act evidence confirms that there was no mistake or accident in deliberately crashing her car and ending the lives of the victims. Dr. Esther Seng, a Mro health system trauma surgeon who worked on MackKenzie's medical report, was also a witness in the trial She told the court that McKenzie told their team at the hospital that she did not remember what led to the crash The prosecution also asked the surgeon to read part of the medical report She said and I quote Patient then became tearful, processing heavy loss and a depression since her accident. Patient shared feelings of grief, guilt, and shame Patients stated she wanted to die and that it was her fault for killing her boyfriend One of the prosecution's theories was that Mackenzie was afraid that Dominic might break up with her or really leave her. So instead, she decided to kill him with her car like she had threatened to do in the past And poor Davon, who is just innocently trying to get a ride home was collateral damage, and Mcenzie didn't even care if he died too However, some people who were at the same party before the crash didn't recall anything crazy going on between Dominic or Mackenzie that night So either something must have happened in the car or she planned on going through with it that night anyway But the prosecution had even more damning evidence to prove this was, in fact a premeditated planned murder, because there was evidence that Mcenzie had been to that area of the crash just three days beforehand, and they showed the courtroom data of her cell phone being in that vicinity They suggested this as proof that she was familiar with the scene before the day of the crash and believe that this was her attempt to scope out the area and come up with a plan. 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Upfront payment of forty five dollars for three month five gig plan required equivalent to fifteen dollars a month, new customer offer for first three months only then full price plan options available, taxes and fees, extra, see MintMbile for details However, MackKenzie's attorney that she was not suicidal in any way Mcenzie's mother took the stand near the end of the trial. She had a very different angle on what might have caused that tragic crash She said the McKenzie has a condition called POTS, postoral orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a condition which causes dizziness When the connection between the crash and MackKenzie's condition was brought up, her mom said that it could be. MackKenzie's aunt also testified with a much different story of what MackKenzie and Dominic's relationship was like. She believed that the two were honestly head over heels for each other, despite all of the rumors and talk about them having a rocky relationship Many people felt that Mackenzie's mother's testimony was another example of her mom trying to excuse her daughter's bad behavior. Sarilla is also facing charges of felonious assault and aggravated vehicular homicide The judge says she'll deliver a verdict on Monday at one PM. And then the verdict was in There is nothing that I can do or say today that will return these two young men and their families There is nothing I can say or do Store MackKenzie Serlla to the life she hadwards july thirty first, twenty twenty two And there is nothing that I can say or do to restore the lives of these three families. before the faithful moments on that day This trial is a culmination of decisions made by one person to desnd Those decisions have forever altered the futures of three families And if you also begins sleep And your decisions forever robb Dominic and Havion of the futures that they had before known If there is one thing that can be taken away from this case, as painful as it is, it' just this Every decision we make is important Every action will make it important Regardless of whether the decision is a good one or a bad one, where the actions are good or not The result is the same The consequences ripple through time. and affect many more people than one might think at the time of the decision In criminal cases, the state carries the greatest burden under our law, proof beyond a reasonable doubt As I previously stated, I consider all the evidence presented And at this point, I would like to comment specifically on exhibit eight hundred two, the crash video This is the type of evidence you can never unsee You can never forget the visual or audio of this spe just chilling and tragic As you review that exhibit You know that you are watching the oncoming deaths of two people And there's nothing that will stop it The video clearly shows the purpose and intent of the defendant She chose a course of death and destruction atness Exhibit eight hundred two crystallizes the deadly decision making of the defendant She morphs from a responsible driver her So literal hell on wheels. that she makes her way down the street Mackenzie alone made the decision to drive the car to drive an obscure routad. A rout she visited a few days before and a rap opply take a vi Mackenzie Alan chose the time to makeake the drive early in the morning When any reasonable person would expect that few people would be nearby to the sit or offered life saving assistance to She made these decisions despite knowing as any reasonable person would her mission of death could have involved others, not even in the far ofir other people, other farars the guest rooms She had a mission and she executed it with precision The mission was stalth Mackenzie Long decided to push the pedal to the floor demand the ultimate speed of that vehicle ninety to one hundred miles per hour She alone decided what was to be Mcenzie decided death was the ultimate goal that day Fs defendant MackKenzie Sirell guilty of murder to a Dy on plan is coniolation of a hard advised code section. two nine three point zero two A expion counseling in diagram. Yeah. C free murder The court, having had count three tried to pursuant waiver finds a defendant and Keny Shherrill guilty of murder to wit Dominic Grusso in violation of Lar advised Ct section to nine z three two be a start from countant grer Count four, murder. The court having had count or tried to proceed Fs the defendant MackKenzieill Serilla guilty of murder to wit Dominic Brusso violation of a Har Bvice code section two nine zero three point zero two E is charged in count four Count five, Sonus assas Before C had count five tried to pursuant waiver. B to defend the Mckenzy Sherlla guilty of felonous assault to w Donic who is in violation of a har advised C code sections two nine zero three point one oneine under the revised code is charged in count five of the indictment Count six pelonious assault. MackKenzie was found guilty on all counts In the video, you can see Mackenzie's family seated in the front row behind her, visibly upset and shocked. As Mackenzie was leaving the courtroom, you could hear her family speaking loudly to talk to her love you Paby. Nice. Let's guy f At McKenzie's sentencing, the judge heard a victim impact statements from the victim's family. U, Y're honor. My name is Jamie Flanagan I am the mother of the victim Dviian Sligan I want to share a small part of what we lost on seven twenty one I'm sorry, seven hundred thirty one twenty twenty two. My son Davon. is and always will be so much more than important He was precious. He was an amazing soul with a hard gold. He gives the world What he wanted most in his own right The kind of love that would rescue a friend in the middle of the night. No questions asked the kind that would protect others and honor them He made friends easily with his infectious smile He was a gifted athte He had plans to go to Barbara's school and open his own shop My son did not have biglf friendriend but instead was a friend of all He would go out of his way to show love and kindness to others, including those that were often cast aside by society. The less fortunate, they developmentally challenged, the hurting and the unvalued Devon made sure that everyone crossed his path knew if he truly saw them. that he valued them And then they were worth his time Davion and my kids have had more than their fair share of heartbreaking of ours shhip and of loss The Don was adopted in with his sisters from foster care their biological siblings We are honored to be chosen or to have been chosen to be the m They're forever family I am devastated. But the los of didnt you The world lost a truly special mean S My girls lost. Their best friend The protector the one and only trusted family that has been biled youide from J L. This alone Our he understands the pain and loss that they have gone through and was always there for them. This fact of alone breaks my heart my girls, for my family. for many dreams shattered, a future stolen We will never get to see the amazing man N he was surely to become He His life was precious. Like I said, he was so much more incable. I pray daily for strength and perseverance for myself and for my family. I also pray clly that Mcenzie will find Tan Horal heart and Simry Cab P We thank all of those that work so hard to help us bring justice first us We are forever, thank you. Daviian, we missed you terribly But as Christians, we pray with hope We will make sure your memate cl sa And we anch the day that we are united together eachnion C Hello, could you start with your name? Hi everyone my name is Dyan Flanagan. Davrion was my older brother. The passion with Davriel Mel Flanagan has been very difficult for me. We have g through everything together since day one. Davriel was a big brother to me and myiamunt. We all got adopted together and keep love well A's will David on Pax willary a ld trauma and past p wor of my life. I was it to be difficult to on in this tra But this tramatic. Diano was not just a big v to me for ro in any way this He was the personident of Just whoirl because has to marian girl's D Tght me the importance and look charerity anything sheona and en l The riers we have are strong, but we have has mean the value of li. J how out sts you can't understand, but it's worth it in the end I don't want this stand for anyone else. I don't want people have to go for us. I'm an eight year old. I hate the fact that you're gong because someone decided to spe take what you like Stop at the event of ga, I feel stopped. I feel as if I can't move forward I feel lost. I will feelost. He want so w to takeick me off when my You are my best friend and only person that has a state pol on f the bard I was likeucky to give muring the longest possible cle tim. And now her for about three years and actually she's always taken the beceA on We be elim will full while we will be gone forever. Thanks me Rong. Thank you Chr Christina's from down this oven No one wanted this to be markic F McKenzie into shoma for the snacks that I'm doing. But this was not cor say that. The evidence from someies proved The MackKenzie should all Rer and my son and Dic as well as they There's no fix ofin in this case as the she looks of like in, which is required want to thank the Cosma Police Department in the state of Oh Iio for leaking the truth behind this crash. Thanks to them. I we all know but y in had car that day. What we don't know is why. I wish I could change this time of day. I lost three children In that crash And I'm to go l today that I pick about myself. It Bostavia, my host brother Din The cries curve from the strow family and frs be the verdict and nothing more than a lack of remosse. consister will with had a choice Din Dy Aond in. We are all left here you home. It's good. But what Dave C andi out lost, Can Iot be reminated in any way bu any pos sentences july thirty first, twenty twenty two, Cope that was his mother iser the loss of my son And happen to m M Has ago. The first witness said to me was Oh please don't listen to what everyone was saying and they spoke Tad terble. Yeah. My sp is dead. A friend is dead and a Gleman Nor in the social Nia was he Social media is made game ins spite of the life of Mcabie and is madeatively gameed by thisun and baning. No one can imagine the pain of losing each child, unless they've lost one themselves. The pain is forever one. Tim does not heal this flat Mackeny new pron because you did this. Be thankful that you're still alive in their the future, whatever event may be. Scott and Davian will round of their futures The hopes and their times has show no m onic, n did she and Dia. Oh g this family can never rush the end of stop. Thank you. To hear their pain is so unbelievably heartbreaking and just unimaginable. When I was researching this case, I found Aofundme for Dominiic's graves site The Gofundme was from his sister and it read Hi everyone. I'm Dominic's oldest sister Dom tragically passed away on july thirty first, twenty twenty two He was twenty years old, and our hearts were left shattered to pieces Since then, myself, my sister and mom find comfort in keeping his grave site a sight to see for everyone to come and enjoy It started as his parents and siblings trying to hide the dirt after his burial, and it blossomed into this beautiful memorial site that keeps us working together in honor of Dom. My mom tends to do it every day for hours, whether it's printing pictures for everyone to look at, adding solar lights, adding decorations, keeping up the landscaping around it adding and exchanging hundreds of flowers, laminating letters and pictures, finding trinkets to add to it or beautiful statues, etcet. This is what we do it for for DM, and it's in honor of our beloved brother and son Friends and family leave memorabilia, notes, pictures, things like that that remind them of Dom. Somehow yesterday, his grave was set on fire and everything burned to the ground Nothing was salvageable, except a cement cross. Most of the items were irreplaceable, such as flowers and ribbon from his funeral, letters from his nieces and nephews and friends and siblings and parents, stuffed animals, things that can't be replaced The items cost us thousands of dollars and will cost us thousands to replace Most items were very expensive We spent on the flowers alone originally around one thousand two hundred dollars. Each solar light decoration can range up to fifty dollars a piece We are asking for any donations from friends and family so that we can get his graves site back to how it was, and before july thirty first of this year, which marks his one year anniversary Dom's Grave means so much to us. Words can't explain. We miss and love you so much, our Nuci baby. Until we meet again, your sister loves you. Since then, the GoFundme has been updated, stating, quote, Hi everybody I just wanted to say thank you for all of your generous donations. We were able to recreate Dom's Grave beautifully Any further donations will go to purchasing updated memorial items such as flowers, etc in the future Thanks again. We love you so much, Dom So when it came to sentencing, the state gave their recommendations for sentencing and reasoning. Y, there's very little that I can say After hearing from those who love Dominic and Davion U in regards to the impact that the defendant's conduct had on these families's lives And we have received A series of letters that have been submitted on behalf of the defendant in And summarizing these, they describe her as a good student and a loving and caring person I'm and that she could never do something like this. And they continually Despite the verdict reffer to this as an accident and an unfortunate accident and tell you that she is also a victim And There are just a few things that I think is important for the court to consider in determining a sentence today U Part of the evidence in this case and introduced in trial was evidence from the defendant's cell phone. There were search warrants executed on her various social media accounts Her school records, her medical records, things of this nature And I think that who she actually was is directly contontradictory to what is painted by the letter submitted on behalf of her today I'm not even cool. I'm just one of those girls that can do a lot of drugs and not do you figure like a p a do figure like a doll. Don't care if you think I'm dumb, I don't care at all. Cany best swet if I wantanna be a dog I'm the girl you die for I'm the kind of girl that can do drugs and like not die I'm the girl you die for Both of those videos were posted on her TikTok Shortly after the crash Stsville Police were notified that they had received concerning emails from the community that the defendant and her mother were seeking employment with the Los Angeles modeling agency Kenzie Svillis said to Vitalally Thank you for the comment. I would love to work with you guys. I've been emailing you guys a lot. Such a great opportunity. Thank you. Is there a date? There is not a date on this, Your Honor. Based on the investigation, it was delivered to the police while. The defendant was still in the Mro Health hospital So it was during that time period, she was in the hospital for several weeks shortly after being released from the hospital The police were provided additional videos of the defendant from her wheelchair as she attended a concert down in the flats And again, your Honor, I'm introducing these to the court to show the shocking lack of remorse. This was somethingomet that was being exhibited while the investigation was still going on before she was charged and arrested in November of last year, and these were the sort of things that were coming to the police and the shocking lack of remorse coupled with the fact that the defendant was reported driving An automobile shortly after this event that she was seen in Strongsville again driving a car in spite of the fact that as her mother testified, she got dizzy sometimes from a condition that she had to take salt pills for U in spite of the fact that it was, in fact her mother who provided her with the car that she used to take Dominic and Babyon's life And I'm just going to say it I literally cannot with any of this bullshit with her I literally cannot with this. The Instagram posts while Mackenzie is in the hospital days after the accident, with her and her mom responding to a modeling agency in LA. Are they out of their minds? I mean, maybe, but I think we know now where MackKenzie may have learned some of her behavior, which no shade, but just saying Mcenzie's mother also gave a statement before sentencing, and honestly, when I was watching this, I could not believe it I contemplated if I wanted to include the whole thing, but I think it really is important because it gives so much insight into what all of these claims about who Mackenzie is and how she acts were really about Can you start with your name and then. Hello I just want to say my lge of a dress that went little shir. I just want to say to parently H you broken S and lost and my heart burs for everyone. Okay. Lave hereos of be friend And don like for what' go like those part arly Okay And I'm so sorry that youre your he open. Okay and then Your honor, this was a terrible tragic nightmare accident into it happen that she has no memory no. And she will never emotionally or physically recover her own. recover from it S' too And we're asking that you please nowbll the sentence as an executive whose family and we all love each other That warning of the accident. She called, I got a phone call this there was a car accident. and so went to the houseit. And I didn't even know uil c So going to p not and confirmed you And I was tell b thiss I m so we lo this It's my cult d. Like over and over again fr he wasn't to answer the phone and he didn't answer the phone. So then I tried to call his mom and she didn't answer phone either. And I still didn't know who was in the car. I didn't know she was alive. I didn't know what was happening So that we're in the waingom And then my, she did call me, so I answered the phone and I was like, Oh my God. I don't even know who was in the car. Like what's happening? What wass that happening? And she said, What do you mean? My son is dead. And I was like, I'm so sorry. And then she said something like and now I have to wait tillil your kids out of the hospital. and then I didn't hear d I just I was a guy, we loved him so much. I hung up the phone. I did not Tal about social media, and I didn't even know what was going on yet Okay So that was it. in the hospital, Bed theal folks I commented on that because somebody had called her a murderer. okay? eventually. She she' rat I on so. She won't have her phone as much as the police have still had it. okay So I jelt down And I was like You know, she's not b fus more s than he Wis people commenting. She's been trying to get with you at that plan just of the accident. So I commented that I'm really have that Because of the miling opportunity. I don't think who cares about that I don't want them to refer to her as a murderer Okay And I don't even know how that comment have got on the phone because the police still have her device and she could not be access to her phone or social media. That's why I did it sim and not I had was called down asking if they shut down social meia this spe when and calling her a murderer and making death threats and organizing groups to take her out and she went out of the hospital stuff So I don't even want her go. I don't care about herone. I don't care about social media. I just wanted them to stop calling her a murderer so and she did come to and she did come out of surgery with multiple surgeries that she wouldn't see all these evil calling she would never, ever, ever murder her life Halloween For three months after the accident, she holding went his clothose. She would all e this next he a She would only listen to the music he wrote, Okaykay? She was ling for three months. He li took a shine of him next her with photos and things that he liked and this flower that lights up that he got her because he wanted it to be fresh and alive forever. It's like a little You give them beat some flour. Okay gu she's got thisish. Why do that next So she was crying for three eight months. So her friends gu said she wanted to go out tour dcial Halloween. and it was like, o you And she didn't even want to go. She said, I don't know, shouldh I go? She couldn't walk yet barely So I told her saidity, please go It's Halloween. you've been playing for three months crying lly listening to his music, please have just a moment of fun, a moment of fun. So wease told her Ggo My husband droke her I brought her back home. She just needed a second of fun from losing G world for full world so that was h we told her ad. and that concert She went to W Don's Cluse in An. They picked her up. They brought her there. That was D. We can't see Don and Abby all decided to go into the concert together while they were in the hospital That was for de. Everything she did after the accident was either an hor T sh hosting him or just be viad of any way that you can Scuse me She like devastated and ded. It was the heir that she bies Well and they went with his cousin We spend all kinds of time with them in of the ass andents Oh What was the covering thingect I'm hearing an awful lot about your daughter. I'm not hearing very much about it at all They all they all loved each other. They all spent every day together And isn't that part of the problem, Mr. Sherlla? Sorry. Isn't that part of the problem that they all trusted each other Isn't that part of It's not a problem at It's a problem with how they all ended up in the car together and two of them ended up dead I understand or I understand a what it goes like. I'm saying that it was a tragic accident she would ye. Well, we're going to have to disagree on that Right And I respect your position, that you disagree with me? But anyway next I just wanted address those. We told her to go of those things and that she did help me down to the family. So look at that, don't look at a with up. Look not look on their belie I't care this is that those things are not relevant. It' not sa say. Not at all. Not at all. I agree. if you have a moment, all you would need is five minutes of a conversation around with her to learn who she is. then you just need five minutes to learn who she is and what she's capable of not doing in way you ex for herself The freaking Audacity I mean, I don't even know where to start, but let's break this down. First of all, that was the most insincere apology made to the victims' families that she could have possibly come up with. Second, why the hell was she referring to Davon as a new friend I'm glad the judge called her out on this and said, well, does that make his death less bad? 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Qints dot com slash aE When it came time for sentencing, the judge did not mince words, and the judge absolutely slammed MackKenzie Today is a sentencing of the defendant for the purposeful and intentional murders of Dave Beon Flanagan and Dominiic Russeau. And in a way, it's a second time their families are gathered again to grieve It's also a day when MackKenzie's family will grieve for the future of their daughter All three of these families and the friends of these families are suffering. And all of their lives have been irrevocably changed because of the actions of the defendant the unintended and collateral consequences of a selfish, intentional and cruel decision By MackKenzie will ripple forever in time It's literally changed history because it's ended to lives Two young men are dead Their deaths were horrible Terrifying and tragic I will say again If any reasonable person reviews Exhibit eight hundred two. There could be no doubt in your mind what happened this night There can be no doubt of the absolute terror of the two people in that car The defendant controlled all the events She chose the day Specifically, she chose a date just before her eighteenth birthday She chose to drive the car. The time to drive the car She chose an obscure previously scouted route through an industrial parkway She chose the target to hit and the victims She chose the means and the method to follow through And She planned and purposefully executed the events of july thirty first, twenty twenty two The review of the evidence supports the factual findings The forensic testimony, the testimony of the first responders The testimony of the emergency room doctors who treated the defendant The testimony of the coroner's medical examiner testimony of those who knew the victims and the defendant and the testimony of the BMV official who provided evidence that not only did the defendant deny any medical condition when applying for her license, which her mother co signed and attested to But also that just after the accident, McKenzie renewed her driver's license and again denied any medical condition In fact, the defendant was so concerned about driving that as the state mentioned, during the investigation, she asked if they could just suspend her license for ten years It is hard to fathom a person could be concerned about their driving privileges. having just been responsible for the deaths of two people There was no medical condition that caused this as an accident There was no mechanical failure of the car The record is clear on the facts and the evidence Her mother's uncorroborated statements without any medical testimony or records is not persuasive It is also important to remember that even if McKenzie intended to also die in this crash that is irrelevant a failed suicide attempt is not a defense to murder And even in a murder suicide attempt when a perpetrator executing the plan survives, The other deaths or deaths are still murder There's only one person who's responsible for the pain of everyone in this room. that person is you McKenzie Nobody else is responsible This isn't the fault of Dominic's family or Dave Beon's family or your family And I know that each of you have asked your questions to yourselves, what if? what if I had done this or that The truth of it is, None of us can control the intentions of another And when there is a purposeful intent to harm or kill someone is the perpetrator alone who bears the responsibility for the choice and the consequences and the harm that follows The difficulty for sentencing today, honestly, is whether or not I believe you should get consecutive sentences I'm troubled that should I give you a concurrent sentence that people will believe that somehow I'm being disrespectful. to one of the victims And on the other hand I have to weigh The punishment There's a very good likelihood, McKenzie, that you will spend the rest of your life in prison That won't be up to me. That will be up to the prohort And that will be up to you to a great extent. MackKenzie was sentenced fifteen years to life, meaning she will be at least thirty four years old during the first time that she is eligible for parole. And unless MackKenzie shows true change, takes accountability for her actions, or does some serious self reflection to realize the devastation that she caused to her victims' families She will be lucky if she gets out the first time she's up for parole. So that now leads us into some major updates in this case. After her trial, MackKenzie got a new legal team and they were doing everything in their power to prove that MackKenzie was innocent. They claimed that she had a medical episode that occurred at or around the time of the car accident, what they're calling incident, and they're saying that that medical episode caused her to ultimately lose consciousness, which then resulted in the crash. They also claimed that key evidence in the case had been missed during her trial. evidence that they say proved that Dominic was actually the one threatening Mackenzie and not the other way around Now this proof that they had, it was text messages from MackKenzie's phone. And one of the text messages is from july seventeenth, twenty twenty two. It was sent at twelve forty five PM, so just afternoon, and it said, quote Can you come get Dom? He just grabbed my steering wheel on the highway trying to spin out my car and hurt me. end quote. Then that same day, just a few hours later at four twenty seven PM, Dom texted Mackenzie saying quote I'm sorry to which she responded, That is not enough to fix it this time With these messages, her new legal team is saying, no, no, no, look. He is the one who put her life at risk in the past. He is the one who would antagonize her. We have a history here, we have a pattern, which, to be honest, I think there was probably toxicity in both directions in this relationship. In October of twenty twenty four, Mackenzie's defense team then filed its post conviction relief petition, otherwise known as a PCR And in this, they requested a new trial. But get this. You can't just file those things whenever you and your defense team are, you know, feeling up to it. It's something that has to be done in a timely manner. And MackKenzie's defense team, Well, they were one day past the deadline that is mandated by Ohio law So judge Nancy Margaret Russo, the same judge who found her guilty during her trial, denied this petition. whichich look, I can understand the frustration with that. Technically, yes, you gott to follow the rules. If it's mandated by state law, there's a deadline. I also can see the argument where people say, it was only one day late, like, you know don't be so rigid, let it go in, all of these things. But then I think when you do that, you have to make allowances for two days late or three days late I don't know, so I understand the frustration here, but I also understand why the decision was made. So then, MackKenzie's parents broke their silence. Now up until this point, they were not doing interviews or any public appearances whatsoever. Now why they finally decided to, who really knows? Maybe it was a hell Mary, maybe it was trying to humanize the situation, it's really unclear. And I want to play some of it for you because if nothing else I feel like it's fair to say, this family sure has the audacity. Okaykay? Now again, if you are listening to the audio version of this, it will be clear, but there will be captions and video on the YouTube version. I struggle with this because how can I feel bad that these two boys died and feel grief with these families and and be Absolutely. overjoy that my kid is alive. Show me one piece of evidence. says she did this on purpose. Show it to me. Here it is. That's it. And she's right where she belongs. and she's guilty of it. But there isn't any evidence. There's no evidence of what was going on in that car other than information gleaned from the black box information. And these poor families think she did intentionally and she didn't. And there's like And they don't know. there's information they didn't see. There's information they didn't have. There's information we didn't see or have. Should she be in prison for murder? No. abbsolutely not. Should she be in prison for aggravated vehicular homicide I don't know don't I don't know about the aggravated part becauseuse I don't think you can still say why I was going on the car. Should she be shouldould she have been charged with reckless vehicular homide two counts? I don't Absolutely Absolute. If it was medical, what kind of hopes, what kind of expectations do you have for MackKenzie's future That the truth will set her free. That's what I need to have happen the truth, that there was no intent, that part, the truth will set her free. So when I first saw this interview, my jaw was on the floor. Honestly, I don't even really know why. I mean, Mackenzie's mom had proved to us before that she just rambles and makes excuses for her daughter. So I don't know why I expected her to change or for there to be a different tone to this conversation or what It did somehow still surprise me. And I think if I were Mackenzie, I'm just, you know I putting myself in her shoes for a moment, I'd be telling my mom, you know, zip it, stop talking, goo into hiding. I don't need you speaking on my behalf anymore. because at this point, if she keeps it up, she may ruin any chance of MackKenzie ever getting out on parole. And while we're on the topic of the whole Serilla family, we also have to go over another thing. I never had too much hope that MackKenzie would show actual remorse. I think she's entitled. I think she thinks that the rules don't apply to her, and I just never expected to see genuine remorse from her MackKenzie has already proved that she has always seen herself as the victim and that she probably always will think that way. And in the summer of twenty twenty five, there were some jail calls between McKenzie and her mother that were released. One of the calls was from August of twenty twenty three, and it was about a court hearing that MackKenzie had been through. And instead of just describing this call to you, I'm gonna play you some clips again because I feel like it is much better hearing things through their mouths and how they deliver the statements. So take a listen How do you think I did okay? Yeah, in the offough I know I am like No m He was me up. I was trying for anything. We got nothing to hide. He could ask me anything you want for bread and cookies Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited to see know that you please have somebody get that work for you I'm going to I should just irritating in f Mam L I how I don't like how I can't come out of my room Why the fuck am I on a seven day hold? I just pisses me off. part of the procedure There's nothing can do about that. And I'm so scared about like me and Iost the love of my life and a good friend and now I have to deal with this grief the rest of my life and deal with beinging scared to drive and stuff, like that's just like No I know honey. There's nothing I can do about that. So can you just pay my bond and get me out of here, please Lets go to a bailed bondsman and see if they can pay the ten percent I listen. listen. I' been thin of somebody When you were talking I don't know how much an appeal is Okay. so can we just wait until Monday? Yeah, let's just wait until Monday and when I can just probably I'm probably They're probably gonna to take my bond away out on Monday. That's what I mean. let's just wait. We' see. That's what you mean. They're probably gonna to say there's no more bond on Monday. So we don't know ifet that's true or not I don' the whole situation last seple years going have to wait This is just wrong. Whats the fuck they're doing's wrong and they're just trying to l it I know I'm feel very irritated. I need to get the fuck out of jail because they're just trying to fuck me over bad as fuck. McKenzie also brought up her medical condition, claiming that it had now gotten worse ever since being in jail, and that now she was having even worse episodes than she ever had before. Nobody ever told me that like anything about driving. on the license. Exactly. No M and If we do have to, then we will. I don't care, like why would we lie ex back if I knew that it could affect my driving, I probably would never drive like Well, no, no. people no people are allowed to drive with that, but don't say that This is a guy ear been bad again. Like, I don't know what it is. like out the other day and like It was so weird. It was like not normal. Like it wasn't like bad how it usually is, but it was also like not like good I don't know how to explain it was like the first time I ever had a blackout like that. Like it was like weirdest fook. I don't know how to explain it. Well just make sure you're eating Okay. When you get your if you can do your comissary, make sure you get some chips. Now like I said, those calls were back in twenty twenty three. So Who really knows whether she was exaggerating those blackouts exaggerating the symptoms, just trying to look better for her trial. Wh knows But it does seem to me at least like she still is standing by the idea that she had some sort of medical condition. And I'm really curious to know what you think about that though, because when this case first exploded, it felt like Honestly, the overwhelming majority of people believed that Mackenzie was guilty, that this was intentional, entitlement, audacity, all those words, right? No question. But now with some of these text messages coming out and Mackenzie and her medical condition claims. Do you feel the same? Do you feel like there's room for, you know, questioning that and that maybe it's not as black and white as people thought? Do you think that those text messages are enough to potentially change the outcome of this case? And do you believe that there's a world in which some other scenario occurred And that's what caused the crash. that it wasn't MackKenzie's doing, whether it was one of the passengers grabbing the wheel or some sort of genuine medical episode that triered I don't know. Let me know in the comments. Like I said at the beginning of this episode, I still firmly believe what I believe about this case. Yes, I don't think that those text messages are great, but again, I think it just shows toxicity from both sides. I still think that even if it was a medical episode, I would imagine that there would be a level of remorse. when I've gotten into a car crash in the past I had someone in the car and I just rear end somebody, you're remorseful, even if it's an accident, you know? And so even if it was this thing that she had no control over, where's the remorse and the accountability with that to say like, I'm devastated. I can't believe this happened. d d d like my illness, I need help I don't know, it's just not quite landing for me. But maybe I'm rigid in my views. Who the hell knows? So curious to know what you guys think about this case. Maybe I will also throw a poll up on Spotify just so that we can gauge what everybody's thinking. But take a quick second. if you're watching this on YouTube, leave a comment that says, I think this was intentional Or I think this was an accident. and we can gauge the responses. And for all of my podcast listeners, if you're listening to this on Spotify, you can vote on the poll. But if you're listening on Apple, leave a review for the podcast and let me know in the section where you can write a review. Let me know what you think about this case. So thank you so much for listening. Let me know too, if you watched the Netflix documentary, The Crash and what your thoughts are Now after seeing that as well. But I always like to come on here and cover some of the documentaries that I'm familiar with already with the case that Netflix covers because there's only so much information you can squeeze into ninety minutes or even like three, forty five minute episodes. And I feel like sometimes a lot of the minute, you know, the details get lost within it and so That's why I'm here, to give you the deep dives, to give you all the information that maybe isn't shown because it can't be squeezed into a sixty minute episode