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Okay, so we're gonna get into this first update and it's this you know scumbag that I hate to talk about but love to hate on. and that is Josh Duggar. because we have an update of sorts involving dirty ass Josh Dugggar Now I'm sure we all collectively know who this scumbag is, right? But if you need a refresher, Josh Dugggar is part of the family of nineteen kids and counting. He was sentenced back in May of twenty twenty two to more than twelve years in federal prison after being convicted of receiving CSAM material. And I've said it before, but if you don't know what CSAM stands for You can Google it, but't well actually don't do that because I don't want any CCAM material to come up, not that it would. It's probably all on the dark web. But it is some of the most explicit child material that exists. Now, according to the evidence that was presented at trial, Josh repeatedly downloaded and viewed CSAM material, including the absolute worst of the worst file that exists out there And in addition to his one one hundred and fifty one month prison sentence, he was also ordered to serve twenty years of supervised release once he was released Also, he would have to register on the list, the registry and pay about fifty thousand dollars in fines So fast forward a little bit to July of twenty twenty five. Josh had filed a motion asking the court to vacate or basically throw out his conviction He argued that his constitutional rights had been violated and that his conviction should be overturned because of that. However, there was a pretty major problem with all of that The filing was completely late And I don't mean just a little bit late like Mackenzie Sherilla, where it was one day late for the appeal. And we talked about that last month, last week, all of the things His filing was more than a month late. However, even still, Josh tried to argue that it should still count because of what is called the quote prison mailbox rule Now essentially, that rule says that if an inmate places legal documents into a prison mailing system on or before the filing deadline, then the documents can still be considered as being filed on time, even if they arrive later Which I have to say really does make sense in theory because I don't know if you've ever corresponded with anybody in jail or anything like that. The mail system is incredibly slow moving because I think just not only the processes, but also they have to like vet all of the mail, they have to open it, they have to check it, they check for contraband, all of the things. While I hate Josh, I do I agree that that rule should be in place because if you are filing something before the deadline, you're doing everything in your best efforts to get to follow protocol. But if the system itself is broken, how do you fight that? Ultimately, though, in his case, the judge didn't buy his explanation for when and how the paperwork was supposedly mailed in, so maybe he like lied and said he did submit it before the date, but he really didn't, but he was using it as an excuse Who really knows, but the judge said that Josh's testimony about the whole situation was not credible. Which the wording that the judge used was also pretty serious and I'll read this for you. The judge wrote The court can grant mister Duggar one coincidence, perhaps even two or three odd happenstances. But mrter Dugggar is asking the court to believe something akin to a magic bullet theory, a sequential chain of events that defies common sense ectively, this chain of events where Murphy's law was lurking at every turn is simply not credible, basically calling him a fucking loser liar. So ultimately, the judge denied the motion and Josh's conviction stood. And unless something is dramatically going to change in the future, he still is expected to remain in federal prison until twenty thirty three Hello That's not the only reason that his name has been making headlines recently. becausecause on may twenty ninth, Josh was suddenly and very quietly transferred from the federal prison in Central Texas where he has spent the last four years He was transferred to the Federal Medical Center in Fort Worth, Texas. Now this is where things start to get a little bit interesting because the Federal medical center isn't a typical prison It's essentially a secure federal facility that focuses on providing inmates with medical, dental, and mental health care services. The Bureau of Prisons confirmed the transfer. They said that it did happen, but they said that they couldn't give any more information about why it happened. And they cited privacy reasons for that, also safety and you, security concerns Which I guess it is important to note that a transfer like this could mean a lot of different things. There are plenty of reasons why an inmate could be moved to a medical facility. We all know that, right? It could be that they are having mental health struggles, that they were in a fight, that they needed, you, an infected root canal, whoo the hell really knows. But right now, nobody outside of the Bureau of Prisons seems to know exactly why he was transferred Now what's raising eyebrows about this though, is that even Josh's own attorney said that he had no idea that this transfer was coming According to his attorney, the Bureau of Prisons doesn't give anyone any sort of advanced notice of prisoner transfers He also said that his office was actively trying to verify Josh's wellbe after learning about this move Did he didid somebody try to you know kill him in prison? Was he severely injured? Is he lying, saying he was having a mental break because now we know that his, you overturn of the conviction didn't go through. What's really going on here? And maybe even more interesting and eyebrow raising, the attorney said that the last time that he had spoken with Josh was about three weeks before the transfer And at that time, Josh was fine. He wasn't sick, he was alive and well, things were good. So it did seem like it came out of nowhere. So naturally, this whole transfer has led to a lot of speculation online about what prompted the move However, as of right now, there are still no public answers. The Bureau of Prisons isn't talking. Josh's legal team says that they were caught off guard and they don't really have much information And there's no official explanation that has been released. So for now, the transfer remains a complete mystery However, his attempt to overturn his conviction that has officially failed, which Hallelujah, I'm not surprised, rot in hell, rot in prison. He's staying behind bars for the foreseeable future. Great. Couldn't couldn't happen to a better guy. So By by Josh Duger. I mean, why would they give him any kind of special treatment I don't think it's special treatment. I think like you receive medical help and all that. Like if he's injured, he would go to like the medical facility to get like say he has broken limbs or like got the shit kicked out of him by a group or don It just kind of sounds like they're like protecting him in a way by transferring him. Maybe or they don't or if like he was hurt. If he was if he was good, but maybe they're trying to protect like his privacy and the security so he doesn't get hurt by other people in the medical center, not that I think people can again Wh cares? Who cares? Honestly Okay, so this next update is one that has people very divided because after months of questions, authorities have finally released what they say happened to influencer Ashley Janay, whose legal name was Ashley Robinson So guys, I covered this case back in April, but let's just do a quick recap in case you're not familiar. Ashley was a thirty one year old lifestyle influencer with nearly ninety thousand followers. And back in April, she traveled to Zanzabar with her fiance, Joe McCann to celebrate her birthday. And she was super excited for this trip And while they were there, Joe proposed during a safari and from the outside looking in, it looked like they were having the absolute trip of a lifetime. But then just six days after getting engaged, Ething changed. On april ninth, Ashley was found unresponsive at the resort where they were staying and was later pronounced dead. Early reports say that she and Jo had gotten into some sort of argument shortly before her death and had actually even been staying in separate villas. Joe later told investigators that he went to Ashley's room that morning with a security guard to check on her and that's when he found her hanging from a door. And from the beginning, the case has gotten a lot of attention because Ashley's family said that circumstances just did not make sense to them at all. They described her as happy and excited about her engagement, excited about the future And they pushed for answers while authorities investigated what happened. And if you remember, there were some reports that the fiancee had waited to reach out to the family, and that there was even maybe some speculation that he had talked to them after she had died, but then hadn't mentioned anything to her while she was in the hospital, which was strange. And now, well, two months later, we finally have the official findings On june fourth, police and Zanzibar announced that their investigation concluded Ashley had died by suicide as a result of what they described as mental distress. They said her cause of death was cerebral hypoxy caused by strangulation and suffocation. And according to investigators, they reviewed witness statements Messages between Ashley and Joe and other evidence from her phone. And they said that all of that pointed to Ashley experiencing significant emotional distress before her death and they found no evidence that anyone else was involved. But then just a few days later, another detail came in And that's what honestly shocked a lot of people following the case. Because one of the biggest reasons people questioned the whole suicide ruling was that at least publicly, Ashley seemed genuinely happy She was celebrating her engagement, posting about the trip, making plans for the future, nothing that would make people think that she was struggling to that extent. But according to the asssistant Director of Criminal Investigations, investigators found evidence on Ashley's phone that painted a very different picture behind the scenes. During a press conference, he said they found a chat GPT search from about a month before her death. that they believed did show suicidal intent According to him, the question was quote much volume would kill me. And he told reporters that investigators interpreted the search as actuallyhle trying to find out how many pills it would take. to end her life. Authorities also say they found farewell messages on her phone, along with other communications that they believe clearly showed that she was struggling with depression. Now despite all of that, Ashley's family is still not convinced. They've openly challenged that determination of her death and continue to question the investigation One thing they've specifically pointed to is Joe's actions after Ashley died alleging that he waited around eleven hours before notifying them about her death. Her sister has also spoken out publicly, saying that suicide would be completely out of character for Ashley. She described her as a vibrant, positive person and said that the family still has serious questions about what really happened in those final hours of her life So as of right now, authorities say the investigation is done and that the evidence supports their conclusion. But Ashley's family clearly disagrees with that and are still questioning that. So We'll see if there's any more information that comes out I try not to put the tin foil hat on too much But I remember when you first talked about this case, there were a lot of red flags that like they got engaged. the people at the resort heard them fighting. then to your point, he waited to notify the family. and I was like, I don't know, something feels weird. We've heard about like things like this in the past where couples fight, even after an engagement, there's either jealousy sparked or something like that. I forget which case it was, but one guy where he took like the actual lid of the toilet tank and like beat her and then like he fled and like to another island, like swam, whatever the hell So when I first heard about this update, which I hadn't looked into it nearly to the degree you did, I was like, okay, maybe she was struggling with mental health But now that you're breaking it down I'm not so convinced. You're not? No, because first of all, I get it People who have self harm ideations, it's not like there's only one singular method that they would use to end their life. But just because she searched and chat GPT, how much valium would kill me then took her life by hanging herself from a door, I get that there's still ideation within that, but also like Not that I've outright ever Googled or searched on Chat GBT, like how much time would kill me, likeike how much is safe to take? or like if I do this, will it kill me? Like things like that that like have nothing to do with ideation And then coupling that with her goodbye text How many cases have we covered where people have sent text messages from the person's phone trying to cover shit up? whichich again, I'm not trying to get too tin fooil hat here If I'm not saying he's involved, I'm not trying to say Joe's involved, but there still is the shadiness that you cannot ignore. that he waited eleven hours to notify her family. that I believe, if I' remembering correctly, he also was very emotionally detached during all of that and like didn't follow up with the family much after. and I don't remember if he went to the funeral or not. there was something weird. And like they fought that night, they stayed in separate villas, which yeah, maybe that would send her into a mental health health crisis. but like I'm not convinced I have a different take. Okay. So when we first covered it, I also thought he was suspicious. I thought all the red flags were there. Like if you did speak with her family while she's in the hospital, you're not telling them why. then she passes, you're not notifying them. I believe it was the resort that notified them. So all of that red flags, but now seeing this. And also back when we covered it, I don't believe they had mention that she was hanging. No, they didn't. So that to me was like a huge new detail and that's kind of that changes things a lot because that's an answer and If there was a witness to that, I feel like again, you a witness to the discovery of it to the discovery of it. Can I say this Sandra Virchmore Okay. Sanda Birchmore also found hanging from the doorknob because of Matthew Farwell Okay I don't know I'm not trying to get craz I don't I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think that I don't think it's as obvious anymore. I also think people do crazy things in like traumatic situations. and so if he did know something was wrong and didn't communicate that to the parents and was trying to figure this all out. like again, if this was the way that the police have determined it, then I would imagine you're in shock. likeike we just got in this fight and you took it too far and now I'm like learning that you had all these ideations. Maybe he did know about it and it's just doesn't want to tell her parents till he can make sense of it. So like fromom that perspective, that part of it. kind of makeakes sense. And even the fighting and staying in different villas. I mean, how many people do we know that have been in fights with their significant other like, you know? or heard of it and then they like not enough to stay separately. I don't know anyone that comes to mind. I mean, I feel like back not like in recent times with like close friend that's great. I's mayaybe not the night of your your of your engagement, but like on vacation if alcohol iss invved, I don't know. I know. I don't think it's that's like the I think it could happen right spiraling, one hundred percent I just am not convinced enough by the chat GPT search and the farewell messages on her phone, that's not convincing enough to me. You don't think the end months of investigation would uncover the timelines and like be able to look in the forensics of the phone and be able they would have sent that and I think they would have cited more details of like why they believe which I mean, I get it. Occam's Razor, usually it's like the simplest explanation is the correct one I'm just saying like, and maybe I'm jaded because of so many like corrupt cases I've covered with like, again andra B Birchmore and people sending text messages from their dead spouse's phone trying to cover up their stuff. It's like to him like I don't get it. And if her family is saying they knew her so well, which I get it, family can be in denial sometimes. I'm just like I'm teetering on the fence. I don't know. Well she was an influencer, so I'm sure and I don't know, but I would imagine, you know, people don't expect that. so they she was happy. She had plans for her future. She's excited, but we all know behind closed doors, Things could be very different. Yeah But I Let us know what you say. Yeah. I'm curious. Like I said at the top of this episode, people are divided and by people, I mean we mean sister Yes One of the biggest problems with supplements isn't what's in them, but whether or not your body can actually absorb them Because most of us assume that if we're taking vitamins or magnesium every day, that we're getting all of the benefits from them, right? I take magnesium every single night. 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Because now, One year after Karen Reid was acquitted of murder in the death of her boyfriend John O'Keeffe, she has, of course, as we all expected, turned around and sued the people who investigated her in the first place, which Good for her. this investigation was like botched and a horrible from the start Michael Proctor is disgusting. He deserves everything that's come in his way We'll get into more of that, but like Ew. Now some of the text messages have come out as part of that lawsuit. And if you remember during the trial, there were a couple messages that We heard about where he was calling her I see you next Tuesday to fellow law enforcement officers. He was talking about the way her ass looked, like gross ass things, unprofessional, misogynistic and just disgusting. But now I didn't think it could get any worse. These new text messages I don't even know what word to use besides Shocking. Gross Val. Now before I get into those texts, let's just do a quick rewind. I know everybody in the world probably knows who Karen Reed is at this point. But if you don't, back in January of twenty twenty two, her boyfriend John O'Keefe was found unresponsive outside of a home in Canton, Massachusetts after a night out with friends. They had gone bar hopping and then they had gone back to this house to participate in like a house party Prosecutors claimed that Karen Reid had backed her SUV into John, then left him there to die on the ground in a snowstorm Karen has always maintained that she did not kill John and that this was all a cover up, that it was a conspiracy, that he was killed inside that house. She even went through two different trials. The first ended in a hung jury, the second she was acquitted. And this became one of the most talked about cases in the entire country in like all of true crime There were accusations of police corruption, claims that evidence had been mishandled, which hello, it was. It was like collected in red solo cups and stop and shop bags. There were infamous butt dials that absolutely made no freaking sense. There were law enforcement officers who dumped their phones after being told that they needed to keep their phones and like preserve them It was bad So like I said, last year, Karen was acquitted of the murder charges, but that was not the end of things, because now she has filed a civil lawsuit against the Massachusetts state police, also the Canton Police Department and the town of Canton. She's claiming that the investigation against her was driven by bias, misconduct, and a culture that should have never been allowed to exist in law enforcement in the first place And a huge part of that lawsuit It centers around former state trooper Michael Motherfucking Proctor Now you probably remember him because of the first trial and Jurers, like I said, heard some of those text messages about the whack job, the see you next Tuesday, made fun of her unfortunate medical issues, commented on her appearance, even making a joke about searching her phone for nude photos. Like that's how gross this guy is. Now, at the time, a lot of people, including myself thought that those messages were bad enough But apparently That was just the tip of the iceberg According to the lawsuit, investigators have now uncovered years and years of text messages that were exchanged between Proctor and former Canton Police Sergeant Sean Good. And some of the things that are said in those messages are absolutely unbelievable. The lawsuit claims that the two of them exchanged racist, misogynistic anti Semitic and homophobic messages back and forth with each other on a regular basis. Now a lot of them, if not most of them, also used racial slurs. They used the R word, if you know you know, you know. and just really gross language referring to non white or non Caucasian people. And in one message cited in the lawsuit, Pctor allegedly wrote, quote, America sucks. Hitler was really ono something. Then the fucking U.S had to step in and ruin it. This is the guy who's protecting our streets. Are you out of your fucking mind? The lawsuit also references messages where Sean, the other investigator or the sergeant, I should say, where he is being accused of sending texts where he's allegedly joking about Anne Frank and the Holocaust spepecifically saying that Anne Frank was a lying cun And then there are messages about women specifically, which these messages are honestly so disgusting. I had a hard time getting through all of them According to the lawsuit, there were conversations that allegedly discussed sexually assaulting women when they were asleep. The messages referred to women using degrading and vulgar language as well, with prosecutors arguing this was not just locker room talk or dark humor, but way more serious, saying that it reflected a pattern of hostility toward women And this was happening long before Karen Reid ever became a part of the picture. This is just like embedded in who these guys are So Karen's legal team is essentially saying, you know, if these are the people who were responsible for investigating her, How could anyone expect her to receive a fair and unbiased investigation? These are people that are trusted with handling serious crimes, collecting evidence, interviewing witnesses, making decisions that could quite literally change the course of someone's life And one message that was highlighted in the lawsuit also really stood out to me, because at one point, Pctor allegedly joked that he was surprised that he even passed his background check spepecifically saying, no idea how I pass the background And this wasn't after a few months on the job, not as a rookie, not like he's brand new, he's joking around. This was after four years of serving as a police officer Which really makes you wonder, if someone is openly saying all of these things in private conversation, questioning how they even passed the background, saying all of these slurs, being just a gross human being What else was being ignored behind the scenes? And how many warning signs were missed along the way Now to be clear, this lawsuit It's full of damning stuff, but it is all allegations. Those allegations still have yet to be litigated in court. However, what makes this such a big issue is that Michael Proctor wasn't just some random officer who was involved in this case on the sidelines. He was the lead investigator in this case in one of the most high profile murder cases in the country Now Proctor has said that these were private text messages and that they had nothing to do with the actual investigation. But Karen's attorneys are basically saying that the bias shown in these text messages has everything to do with the way that these investigations go and how these investigators do their jobs. They believe that the texts give a pretty clear picture of his mindset and the way that he viewed the people involved in the case and how he honestly viewed everyone around him, especially women, right? Doesn't matter if it pertains to the case or not. It's a history, it's a track record, it's your character. They're also claiming that this wasn't some secret that you know nobody knew about. According to the lawsuit, there were warning signs long before any of this came to light Supervisors either knew what was going on or should have known and just didn't do anything about it And honestly, these messages are just absolutely vile, no matter who you are So all of this right now is still very much unfolding In fact, Proctor was actually supposed to sit for a deposition on Monday of this week where he would have been questioned under oath. But just days before, his attorneys filed for an emergency protective order saying that the schedued date was, quote, no longer workable. They also submitted sealed records related to a medical issue whichich the judge did briefly pause to review the request, but ultimately didn't grant the kind of delay that Proctor was hoping for, which would have been indefinite. The judge actually called it extraordinary to file a request for a delay like this just one business day before the deposition was supposed to happen. Now, here's where it kind of gets murky and like kind of pisses me off because he did win in a way. The judge ordered that Proctor could have twenty four hours and that he would have to testify on Tuesday of this week However, the other attorneys, because this took all day on Monday, they once this ruling was made, they're like, we don't have availability. We have other court cases, other things we have going on on Tuesday. so we can't do the deposition now on Tuesday So because of that, they did settle on pushing it out and his deposition is going to be coming later this month. I believe the twenty fifth, if I am remembering correctly. So even though it wasn't indefinite like he wanted He still got the delay that he wanted, even though the judge denied the delay, but because he denied it so late in the business day it did end up working out in his favor, which is kind of annoying. So while we've seen at this point some pretty explosive allegations come out in the lawsuit, there, I'm sure will be still a lot more information to come And it is like the never ending case. So TVD Let's see what happens We hate Michael Proctor. We hate Michael Proctor. I can't remember where I saw I consume so much. I forget where I saw, but an interview where a guy was trying to like shade Karen Reed and kind of saying like, so how does it feel to be out in public where so many people like openly don't believe that you're innocent or something like that. And she was like, actuallyctually didid you see what I'm talking about Is the one where she's out kind of by the dumpster trashes going. I heard. I heard it. But she basically says like, I don't know, everywhere I go, people are like so warm to me. I get discounts everywhere. People are cheering me in the street. So I'm like, this stuff comes out. It's only helping her in the public eye. Absolutely. And look, I've said through all my coverage on this case last year, this year when even before that I don't know what happened that night. I don't know if the snow plow hit him. I don't know if he was beat up in the basement. What I do know is there was never enough evidence to convict her. and I do not believe for a second that he was hit by a car. I think it is way more likely that something happened inside that house and that they all tried to collude and cover it up. just Don't think I have enough Rof. black and white proof, it's more like speculation based on their own actions. So like I don't know exactly what happened, but I do not believe that she's guilty and that I do not believe she can be found guilty in a court of law That being said too, I did attend the trial last year for a short period of time and sat directly with her family and they are some of the nicest human beings on the planet Her parents are so sweet. hererousin's so sweet Karen herself as she shat it for a while. She's so nice. And I get it, they probably want to be friendly with everybody, but they her parents like let me ride with them to lunch. L her mom was like giving me tips on online shopping stores. I'm like, where to go? Yukes, shout out. YO X. she's like, this is where I get all my stuff. Like they're just really sweet people and her dad especially was really sweet. So it's like Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that she's being welcomed with open arms everywhere she goes and that people are like standing for her. And I guess like the silver lining is that she exposed I mean, all the stuff is now coming out. It was a matter of recouping so much of the money that we spent on this. Yeah. But like the time Yeah, her reputation. she had like this high paying gig at Cidelity. She was, I believe a professor or somewhere as well too. And like she had this big finance gig. She like was doing so well for herself and it's like the rug was ripped out from underneath her. and it's been years now going on. So yeah, now that these texts are coming out too, and it just shows like, oh, this wasn't a one off on how these guys are how they operate. This is them They Yeah. And what's the expression? like when people show you who they are, believe them, you know So Go Karen Reid. I was just gonna say this is the year of Karen Reid. Again, I thought it was summer of Karen. Kare I're gonna to go again. we're running it back Okay, so this next case out of the UK starts with an eighteen year old college student who is doing exactly what many other college students do, going out with friends, having a good time And then walking home at the end of the night only to have something very tragic happened in the end. The student was Henry Noak. And Henry was a British Polish university student studying accounting and finance at the University of Southampton And by all accounts, he was thriving there His family described him as intelligent, ambitious, hard wororking, and someone who is genuinely well liked by the people around him He was involved with university football, which is soccer here in the US, had just wrapped his first semester and really seem to have his whole future ahead of him. Then on the night of december third, twenty twenty five. Henry had been out with his teammates from that football club before starting the walk back home through the Portswood area of South Hampton. And somewhere around eleven thirty PM that night, he crossed paths with a twenty three year old man named Vikram Digwa. Now at first glance, this probably seemed like one of those random encounters that happens every day in a college town, but Vikram wasn't just out walking around He was carrying a knife in a sheath along with a second, much larger dagger that he later claimed was a religious Kirpon because he was a member of the Nihong Sik sector. And at some point during the encounter Henry noticed that larger knife and started taking video of Vikram with his phone And in the video, Henry asked Vikram if he was, quote, a bad man. And honestly, the response he got back is one of those details that almost It seems too bizarre to even be real Because Vickram looked directly at Henry and said, quote, I am a bad man before taking Henry's phone for him. What happened next was only witnessed by Henry and Vickram, but whatever unfolded in those moments ended with Henry being stabbed multiple times. He suffered stab wounds to his legs along with a fatal wound of the heart from a larger eight inch blade The judge in this case later said after the stabbing, Vikram actually filmed Henry as he laid in the street. A few minutes later, Vikram's brother arrived on the scene and called nine hundred ninety nine. During that call, Vikram can be heard in the background saying that he had been attacked, quote racially and saying that Henry had pulled off his turban and pulled his hair You can hear some of that nine hundred and eleven call here What did he say? Do you know? U Vick What did he say to you when he attacked you Yeah No no was. No I would the h before weisit So my brother said Yovic What did he say to you? What did he say What did he say? Did heusive? police come? Yeah he was Yeah. So he still do you want to speak to my brother No you carry on, he stumbled into him, then what do he? So he stumbled into you and what? Yeahes, So he's walk intoly stumble, who's drunk. I've really said to him, Look Yeah. Look man, you're drunk, carry on about your day. do what you need to do He stumbled into my brother. My brother ignored it and said, lookook, Cry on with the day and then what? Let me go to me who do you think you are? who do you think he go? Who do you think you are? Wh who do you think you are to my brother? And then what And he goes Oh Oh, you're this you're who you think you're aboutad. I like yeah, I'm b aboutad hour. Then he starts recording me right? As he's recording me, I snatched his phone. He's then made a punch onto me. He's pushed me back and my turbans come off. He started then grabbing my head So are then grabing, I mean he sort of pushing me attac me even further as about that he's wasing to attack my brother as a result of that Sorry that When he said he said this and he said that, what did he specifically say So he said to my brother, you're whatever, like obviously race V, Vick. They club Sorry let me ask himvick Did he racially say continue? Did he racially say anything they called him That's what I needed to know. And about seven minutes later, police arrived. And what happened after that is part of this case that has generated the most attention and controversy. Bodycam footage shows officers speaking with Vikram and several other people who showed up to the scene after the stabbing happened while Henry was laying on the ground suffering from multiple stab wounds. And throughout this footage, Henry repeatedly told officers that he had been stabbed and that he couldn't breathe. And despite that, officers rolled him onto his side handcuffed him behind his back and told him he was under arrest. And as this was all happening and unfolding, Henry can be heard saying, quote I've been stabbed. One of the officer then responds, I don't think you have meate, which is unbelievable And a short time later, Henry became unresponsive Officers called for an ambulance and began CPR, but despite all those efforts, He died at the scene. Vickram was arrested that same night after being questioned and held for five days, and then he was ultimately formally charged with murder. Then fast forward to may twenty eighth of this year, nearly six months after his arrest A jury found him guilty. He was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of twenty one years before he can even be considered for parole. Since then, Henry's family has been outspoken about how he was treated during his final moments of his life. His father, Mark said Henry told officers that he could not breathe nine times. He told them that he had been stabbed four times. Henry was pulled across gravel, his hands forced behind his back. and he was placed in handcuffs Mark said the difference in how Henry was treated compared to how Vikram was treated was, quote, unbearable Hampshire Police also made a statement in response, kind of halfway apologizing for what had happened, but also saying that no matter what they did differently, the outcome would not have changed. The deputy chief Constable said, this is a complete tragedy, and I'm sorry that they couldn't save Henry that night, and I'm sorry that Henry was handcuffed and arrested as he lost consciousness The pathologist who spoke in court was clear that there was nothing officers could have done to save Henry that night. His wound was deep and internal, the bleeding extensive, but internal Vkram's parents have also released a statement saying that they are deeply sorry for the pain and suffering the Noak family has had to endure The statement continued saying, we would give anything to turn back time so the path of both Henry and Vkram never cross that night We cannot change what has happened. We just hope that no further pain is caused in its name. They also apologizeed to the sick community, saying that their son's actions reflected badly on the community and asking people not to use what happened to create more division or hostility. As of now, the officers who responded that night are now being treated as witnesses in an ongoing investigation by the Independent Office for Police Conduct So honestly, this whole case is just awful. and I know when we first started talking about it, we said that because there's this eighteen year old just doing normal things that every eighteen year old does walking home, had been hanging out with his friends, and then in just a matter of minutes out of his control. His life was gone So it's like no matter where people stand on the case, it's devastating and such a tragedy. I know, you never know like what monsters are lurking on the street, but also the police response, like for him to, it's not that he was complaining that he had been stabbed and there was so much chaos at the scene that they didn't hear him or they missed it. The officers said I don't think so, mate. He was trying to ask for help, but I don't care if the injuries and the bleeding was internal or not If he would have been rushed to a hospital, who knows if they could have performed emergency surgery. They could have identified what's going on. They could have done l saving measures, but instead, they rolled him on his side, cuffed him and gaslit him saying he hadn't been stabbed when he clearly had. And what did his dad say that he said he couldn't breathe nine times That's Yeah. So to say nothing could have been changed in the outcome, it's like even Those wounds were internal and deep and maybe could have been fatal. The fact that he couldn't breathe, there could have been something done in that moment. and disgusting. And The nerve of this a hole to then say he was the one attacked and I know. Well, and I know that there is a lot of bodycam footage out and surveillance footage that has been released. And I believe the dad has also made a statement like about how difficult that footage has been to watch because it's like you're watching the f your child that's beenbelieable for help. The UK is like an uproar over this case. It's so sad. I know Well, another case that it seems like everybody is in uproar about and there is a lot of division and people are pretty much talking nonstop about it since it first happened is the case of Austin Metcalf and Carmelo Anthony. Now as a quick recap for those of you who may not remember this or might not have even heard this case before, seventeen year old Austin Metcalfe was a junior at Memorial High School in Frisco, Texas Back on april second, twenty twenty five, he was at a district track meet when a confrontation broke out between him and another student. seventeen year old Carmelo Anthony. Now, investigators say that it all started during a weather delay. All of these track people had their own tents up and you know, things like that. Carmelo was apparently sitting under Memorial High School's team tent, even though he attended a different school. And that at some point, possibly because of that, an argument broke out Investigators say that Austin pushed Carmelo Carmello then pulled out a knife and then Austin was stabbed once in the chest. Austin collapsed and died shortly after, despite lifeif saving efforts. And what is so heartbreaking about this too is his identical twin brother, Hunter, was also at this track meet, and that is who Austin ultimately collapsed into into his brother's arms And his brother had to watch him die in front of him Authorities later said that the knife pierced his heart. So Carmello was arrested at the scene, he was charged with murder, and he has maintained from day one that he acted in self defense. Now fast forward to this week because the trial is officially underway And honestly, some of the testimony that has come out has been pretty jaw dropping. For starters, before anyone even took the stand, there was already controversy surrounding the jury itself because the official sitting jury did not include any black jurors. The juror pool was originally narrowed down from around six hundred summons or whatever, however you say it, to roughly two hundred fifty possible jurors And then by the final decision, there were only three black jurors left that could have been chosen But they were ultimately ruled out Now, the defense attorneys challenged this, accusing prosecutors of, you know, improperly striking the last three remaining black jurors from the panel. But The state pushed back on that claim, arguing that those jurors were removed because they were educators, not because of their race. The judge ultimately agreed with the prosecution and they denied Fence's challenge But because race has been such a heavily discussed part of this case from the very beginning, that decision to not have any black jurors on the jury, it immediately became a huge talking point online. Then testimony started, and that's when things got really interesting really fast. One of the prosecution's witnesses was a seventeen year old teammate of Austin's who had testified that he witnessed the confrontation himself And this testimony, it was a pretty big deal because he told the jurors that Carmelo already had a folding knife out It was in his hand well before Austin allegedly shoved him. And the deal with this is that if the jury believed that testimony, that was going to be an incredibly big factor because it completely contradicts the defense's argument that Carmelo only pulled the knife after becoming fearful during the physical confrontation, and of course, saying that he acted in self defense. Another student athlete who was sixteen years old at the time, also had testified about what happened in the moments leading up to the stabbing. He told jurors that he was sitting under the memorial tent with Austin and with some other teammates of theirs When Carmelo walked up, sat down next to him and randomly just said Crazy weather, huh? The witness said that everyone was confused because they didn't know him. He wasn't part of their team. He didn't belong in that tent. They really didn't understand why he was there in the first place. According to the testimony, the group asked Carmelo to leave, but he refused. The witness then claimed that Carmelo became so aggressive and said, Fuck y'all, I'm not gonna leave. y'all are a bunch of pussies Y'all aren't gonna do anything. Touch me and see what happens. And what really stood out to a lot of people through that is what the witnesses say that Austin said back to Carmelo during that According to his testimony, Austin's response wasn't, okay, let's fight, let's go, like fuck you too. The witness says that Austin told him, I'm not going to fight you. Then came the medical examiner's testimony, which was probably one of the most emotional parts of the trial. Jurors were told that Austin's cause of death was the single stab wound to the chest. The medical examiner testified that the knife went through his breast bone, then entered his chest cavity pierced the right side of his heart. The wound through the heart wall was described as being approximately two inches long And the medical examiner didn't really leave much room for interpretation They testified that the injury was simply not survivable. Another thing that stood out during the trial was that Carmelo chose not to testify in his own defense, which, of course, is absolutely his constitutional right. and many defendants don't testify in their own defense. However, it is something that people always notice in high profile cases So after several days of testimony, things ended up wrapping up a lot quicker than anyone expected. because the prosecution rested its case on Saturday, june sixth, and the defense then started presenting their case on Monday morning at nine AM. However, the defense rested after just five and a half hours just they rested later on Monday. And then Tuesday, closing arguments began, and it looked like this trial was going to wrap up way faster than anybody expected So the defense rested their case incredibly quickly, and then it moved into closing arguments. And all of this moved a lot quicker than anyone expected. What's interesting though, is that during this, the jury was allowed to consider manslaughter. And this was a major development in this part of the trial because the judge instructed jurors that they could convict Carmello of either murder or the lesser offense of manslaughter. So the defense had hoped that this would give jurors a middle ground option if they weren't entirely convinced one way or another that this was either self defense or outright murder However, right after closing arguments, it went back to the jury for deliberation, and in less than three hours they came back with their verdict Carmello was found guilty of murder. and this meant that he could be facing a sentencing range of five to ninety nine years in prison or life in prison. Now this whole trial moved incredibly fast, okay? So right after the verdict was read, which by the way, the courtroom was completely jam packed for It immediately moved into the sentencing phase. And ultimately, the jury sentenced Carmelo to thirty five years in prison. which he will be eligible for parole after half that time is served. And I think from what I've seen out there too, a lot of people suggest that that is kind of poetic in a sense because that means that I believe he'll be eligible for parole at seventeen and a half years, which is what Austin's age was when his life was taken from him Again, everybody's divided. I'm not saying where I'm at with all of that, but I'm just saying what a lot of people are reporting based on that sentence However, not everybody feels like thirty five years in prison and the opportunity for parole after half of that is enough because that would mean that he would be in what his late thirties, possibly at the time of his release if he is granted parole. And in fact, one of the people who does not at all agree with that is Austin's father In a statement where he directed straight to Carmelo, he says, We were robbed. donon't look down of all these things. I said from day one, this was never about race. Please don't politicize it But what you did chose to do, both is it's about right and wrong We're all humans. We all bleed the same color You're free to make the choices all you want, but you're not free from those consequences. You will face those consequences starting today. People think that grief is sadness, but it's not It's rage. And at that moment in the statement, he slammed his hands on the table, pure unfiltered rage You failed your parents, you failed yourself And you failed society. You don't belong in this community, which he says that directly to Carmelo You're going to prison. You can't even look me in the eyes right now, but you can stab my fucking son in the heart A lot of emotions. there were fights outside of the courtroom. There is a lot of division on social media as you can imagine And I don't know. Now honestly, no matter where people fall on this case, I think that everybody can agree on one thing here. It's incredibly sad. You have these two young men, one who is now no longer alive, the other who whose life will be changed forever because of what happened in those moments in a matter of seconds And it all should have just been a normal high school track mate. how it escalated so quickly, what really happened under the tent and like whyy it happened I guess it's still open to interpretation for, you know varying opinions, however you look at this case But it's really It's like two stories of two teenagers each that it's like their whole lives just gone. gone.Quick moment of because of like either rage or whoever, whatever that motivating factor was, it's just I know. very senseless U Now before we wrap up, I know I mentioned last week that at CrimeCon, we had a little phone booth where people could either Ask for advice. or confess Now I said, if anybody actually confesses anything crazy, I'm going straight to the police. But we started going through some of the messages and I know I mentioned last week that we were going share either one of the confessions on here every week with you at the end of headline highighlights or share the advice segment We want everybody to be anonymous, so we either will read the transcript of what they're asking advice for on or we will play the audio and alter their voice a little bit And this first one that we're gonna to kick this off with creep And I don't know if this person was joking or if they're serious, but I really do not like it at all It's pretty unnerving. Let's play that for you right now. I don't know if you think he was serious or not, but the fact that he's saying I shaved the heads of thirty cats. Is he like a serial cat head shaver? Is he just like doing it to the neighborhood cats? So what I think is it's like him trying to be I'm hopeful trying to like shock value and like maybe he worked as a vet or a groomer. So it wass like, I've shaved the heads heads of you know, when it's like two truths and a lie and you're trying to like shock somebody But it did also give donon't fuck with cats. Yeah. And so I'm like, I don't know. Is this one of those things where you take it as a joke but really there's something lying beneath 't like Are you the one that left that message? Yeah, Is it you and tellell us. What you really mean by that? I'm nervous for next week. I'm nervous for next week's confession or addvice, we will see what happens