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From Sophie Cunningham on DRAMA behind Caitlin Clark's game-winner in Fever-Mystics w/ West WilsonJun 12, 2026

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I think Kelsey to Either C to Lexi Yeah, see the Lexi and they both went with Lexi So they they b to and then left sea wide open and we are going to see anyway. And so and of course, like If someone's open originally, like you give them the ball, like if Kelse was open to get a layup, yes, if AB was open, but like the play was to go to CC. Like it was perfectly executed Well, good morning Holy frickaking heck. can you tell do I look hungover or not? Well, I think you and Kev both sound a little bit, but, you know, Nick's one like Missou Yeah Missouri represents I was just going to say, we're going to have to say it right out of the gate. Yeah That was a midmo bucket bititches And he went off the entire game. It wasn't just that that shot, but that just was the cherry on top I don't think OG missed a shot in the second half. So for those not from The Missouri area. Sophie and I are from Columbia, Missouri. OG N an OB is from Jefferson City, which a lot of people don't know is the capital of Missouri, Giving up for the capital of Missouri, Jefferson City. Love. That is So if you're going to go from Soophie nice hometown to like the Ozarks, That's just like you pop you pop through Jeff City, right where OG's from and then you're and then you're right in the Ozarks. But shhout shout out that that was awesome. Dude, that game was insane. Actually, the whole series has been insane. I thought that the Spurs were going to get it. I mean they were down twenty nine downown twenty nine and you come back and then Josh Hart misses the layup was like I've seen so many clips of how bad of offense the spurs played in the last ten minutes of basketball. Yeah. They apparently they put up like more than ten threes with more than ten seconds on the shot clock. like they they were It was horrible basketball. And like I'm no one to judge But is it too simplistic to say that it's all nerves? likeike in the end of that fourth quarter, likeike why they're playing poorly? I what you guys think? It's coaching, isn't it? so No, I think I think you just sometimes get rattled. And I think that's kind of why experience matters, especially in playoffs and like or or adversity during the regular season because then you've been there and you know how to handle it And u I think Mike Brown, he was like during the regular season. I think they were like on a two and nine losing streak and he's like, I hope adversseity keeps hitting. Like he wanted stuff to happen because then he knew that he they would all be prepared for these types of moments. But I think this firsturse is kind of like I don't know, There's just like simple mistakes and like Darren Fox, like pull that out. You're up. Yeah. pull that out. L there's just like little things like that that I don't know if thought he had a wide open layu, but it's just a little thing. Didn't you and I talk literally last week about going through tough times in the beginning of the season so that when like shit actually matters, you're Weathered it's real. Yeah, of course. And I know you talked about because you said like during football season, you really don't have that luxury to like be losing games, but in the basketball sport, you definitely do and not definitely like you always want to win, but B You know, and then at the end of the season, you just want to be here and the Kicks proved that they were weathered and it was such a fun game to watch like in the fourth quarter. Not to be like, o, I bet you didn't have fun watching, but as someone who watched that whole game from New York City, I just want people to know that like Wild. Uh I've I've only and Kev, you can interrupt me like when you think I'm wrong or right, but like I've been here for like some Yankees playoff series fine like Oh I don't think the Jess or Giants have actually been in the playoffs since I fucking leftved here. but like last night was just game four and the streets were like on fire. I will say real quick The videos of Th these fucking kids beating up people's spurs jerseys. I hate fuck Fuck that. Yeah Fuck that. Like those also aren't even like I know for a fact those aren't even like real fucking Kicks fans. Those are people who like come into the city from somewhere else and want to go like start some shit. Yeah likeike that I can't stand that That being said I was at a I was at my bys's restaurant with friends Everyone left And like Our friends left in the third quarter and we stuck it out and just like, it was insane. I think a lot of people are kept. goo ahead because I knew you I know you're out too. He was going he was going to say don't make Nazi Germany comparisons probably less of those. only three of those a show. Yeah No, it' it's like so unifying for the city, you know, like I think I think West part of up I the previous podcast like Botball has two teams Jets and the giants, you know, baseball has two teams, like the Kicks, like we' all we got And we've been so bad for so long. In the last twenty five years, I think we're top five in losses in the NBA. So like we finally put it together. We didn't sign a bunch of like aging old stars. We actually built the team. The power of friendship. Nixon five. No. I wait I also talk about why we want Nixon six, but u I do like the Kicks because they're not it's not like some fucking like There's no like LeBron signing or like Curry on his way out or like Miami Heatle like there's no these are all like dudes with chips on their shoulder who are like hard nose ballers. Kat was like a first overall pick which whatever, but they are not None of these guys are super stars, so to speak. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I think they're so nicks and so New York and it's so cool that like aren't like a bunch of dudes who were like chasing titles on their way out. These are all guys who are fucking hungry and it fucking rocks. And it's so cool. No, I agree. And I think a lot of people on the outside because we're not in New York, they' like Oh, we hate Nicks fans and how they travel and take overas. I'm like That's what it's all about. Like that is that is literally what it's all about. And I think that we can have experience because of the chiefs and like how unifying like the chiefs has brought in City Mo can like literally anyone who's that type of fan, it just unites you. and like when you win and you keep going, it's just I don't know. I think sports brings a lot of different people together and it's so fun. And I think you're seeing that with New York. but I was about to say the same thing. thoseose videos of like, and you know that they're just people who are trying to cause trouble and like ruin it for everybody. Yeah. But that sucks. And I was like, come on, New York. be better than that. but I love all the celebrations and like seeing the Ns fans because They're true. I like it. You could tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the NBA has like The pure fandom that like the NFL does where you have like historic fan bases and like people who just want their team to win. like I just the NBA I that's just not what I think of. Yeah. But Nick's fans are like our realist fuck and I need. Yeah, I think they're certain I think the NBA overall know But I think like Lakers, yes, Nick, yes I think What other, who else You can say the pacers if you want to I ye Pacers. Thunder Yeah, but and yeah, and a lot of these are like smaller markets. I just the reason I said Nixon six. This could be Best fucking thing ever. So Again, I thought fucking. I thought Tuesday My Bravo timeline I thought I was going to get to like catch my breath. Yeah. and we were all moving on And then they were like, bonus episode next week. And I was like, mother fucking fuck If the Spurs win Saturday and they go back to MSG and they play game six It will be Tuesday night the same time T they air this fucking go damn bonus episode Give me fucking Nixon six At the same time as this shit on TV I will be the happiest person in the mother fucking world. Yeah. so this fucking bonus episode. I thought we were going to get to talk about it move on, but I will wait another week. But I swear to God, give me the sppurs Saturday and the Nicks on fucking Tuesday night. and we will pop champagne on this fucking podcast Wednesday. Wait, another reason too if it if it did go to six would it be back in New York Yeah. so I think NBAs NBA's two two one e one. Yeah And MLB is two, three Two Right Ken Game seven in San Antonio, game six in New York, so game five definitely in San Antonio. The New York parade would be insane Yeah, Taylor's gonna to have to find a new wedding then you if we win game six in the fuckking garden and dig Yeah Why is she Wh are they actually gonna get married in the garden Or is that it right? I think it's I know I thought it was a rumor for like a few hours and then every big outlet reported it, which can confirm. they don't they're also not always reliable. Yeah buts. Um I fucking hate that. I heard three days according TMZ with three day rental. rumored to be a million dollars a day thousandousand guests I mean, I guess it's their wedding, so our opinion really doesn't matter, but I just thought that it would be like Somewhere in nature, a private, away from, You know what I mean? I think it's so tacky. I don't know why I don't know why you would everard to MS she. And like We aren't ones to talk, I guess. We're not engaged or married, but I'm just like I think That feels a curve concert or like a tour like are there going to be strangers there? That's what I'm curious about. I don't I don't think so. I wouldn't believe so. I think I thought that they'd be more like creative in a way? Yeah, Tad, I'm with you Like I'm not trying to talk smack because it's their wedding and if that's what they want, then I'm sure it's going to beautiful and stunning. But I just I think everyone so many people have kind of been talking about it. I'm like, ye I have a little shot too. like that's a little I agree I'm very much with you. D you get an invite or no Why would I get an adite I don't know if I will. We'll see I'll keep checking the mail. Well, speaking of other game winners, we had a game winner the other night Which caused a lot of fucking drama, you guys. You guys cannot stay out of the fucking You know what's funny? Rumor Mill. is like All of our new rookies They're seeing every little thing that they like, every little thing that they post, even like the inside jokes are like what we call each other. Everyone just blows out of proportion and like it's it drove a couple of them kind of crazy like last week. They're like How do you guys do this? How do you like and I'm like, you just can't you can't think about. You got to keep doing you. donon't let it bother you. But being in Indiana, everything is on full microscope times a million. and like You you have to have thick skin to play here because they eat everything up. And like this this thing right here U the didn't follow the plan, think Yeahah We'll get to that I feel like A I want Well, I want to be on the floor Well I just want to give you the floor to break down the play before we talk about what the drama was. but I also want to say I don't like read our comments that much, but like I saw last week, everyone thinks because I ask you questions, it means I don't fucking know anything about basketball. Do you guys want me to talk about the fever? like I know everything or do you want me to like let tee up Sophie to talk about it? Like I could be a know it all douche bag, but I thought you guys would rather like let Sophie talk about it. So I ask questions They're they Again, they just like pick everything apart. So what I know. So you were you in bounnce the ball to Caitlin hit a fucking. Pretty deep. trade ball Yeah to win the game. Yes. But the internet had things to say about it. They thought that wasn't the play you called, whatever, whatever. You tell us what happened. Okay So We Honestly, we were up by fifteen. We should have never been in that situation. That's something our team has got to work on is just like penal to the middle, step on their next, don' let him come back We aren't in a growing period and we we lost them. rememember like we played them at the beginning of the year and it went into overtime and like she hit another clutch, but we finally won this one, so there's growth right there. but And They call the time out and I'm telling you and I spill pretty much everything on this podcast That is the exact play we freicin drew up We literally drew up. and so They just messed up on defense. like There's a miscommunication. There was a cross screen. I think Kelsey to Either C to lexi Yeah, see the Lexi and they both went with Lexi So they they b to and it left sea wide open and we are going to see anyway. And so and of course, like If someone's open originally, like you give them the ball, like if Kelse is open to get a layup, yes, if AB was open. but like the play was to go to CC. like it was perfectly executed. I would counter with like it does seem like you wouldn't drop a play for you to throw the ball that far across the court. Well, it wasn't. What she was supposed to do was it was across screen and then downs screen. So she was supposed to be like at the top of the key. but to be closer to you Yeah, but two people went like Lexi drew two defenders. and so she went, right where there was like wide open space and like That's why I grabbed her at the because I was like, I thought I threw it because I thought she was going to continue to run to me. And that's why it was almost tipped. So like everyone's like, oh, that was I was like, no, that was the play. S like And it worked out perfectly because there was no one around her after she caught it. But I thought she was gonna continue to run towards the ball and she stopped. And so that's all like. That was it How does it feel as a teammate knowing in those situations that you have someone on your team? likeike when she lets it go and you're like following your shot back to the basket that It's more likely fucking money every time than not. Like I just What a luxury. Dude, you wantan to know what's insane, though We have her Kelsey Mitchell and Alia that I feel the same exact way about all three of them and like No other team really has this Hi, it's Colin Coward from the Colin Card podcast. All right, You know what deserves more attention? The Asists. Everybody talks about the goal, a big moment that gets replayed on the highlight reels. But too often we overlook all the contributions and collabs that happen along the way. That's true in soccer and honestly, true in life. 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For more info, talk to your eye doctor, callall one eight hundred forty four MyIibo Y, or visit myibo dot comot I do feel like with Caitlin and I mean The last two podcasts, we've talked about her a lot, but I feel like I've got I've gotten more like CC just like talking fucking shit videos on all my timelines more than I ever have. L I feel like she's just kind of I don't know. mayaybe it's because like back from injury and just like making up for a lost time, but I feel like she's Like not here to fuck around with anybody right now. and I don't know. it's fun to watch Obviously, anytime I get a fever highlight, I like look for the fucking blonde girl with long sleeves running around But it is fun to watch how like she gates like Yeah She's a hooper. likeike she like I would like you could put her in any park in in Manhattan or Brooklyn to like go ball and she would like talk shit the whole time. Like it's just She's real. It's Yeah, it's been fun. And I think that like that's kind of where we're all at. We're trying to find like the fun in it because that's when we're at our best And I think for certain people, like You know, talking a little bit of smack and you know, getting people rallled up and getting the fans involved. like that's part of what makes her her or like makes other people them and some other people they'll hit the biggest shot and then they'll just be like how OG was last night. like You know what I mean? And so it makes it fun. but I think, you know, we have a game tonight against Chicago and it should be a good another good game. They have some good players on their team, but like I'm more worried about us right now rather than like who we're playing. And we just have to stack our days because I think we're moving in the right direction. And so that's's positive, I guess stacking good days. That's a classic Yeah, you okay tonight game against the sky. It could be Fishteray Homein, which we love And the what did I try to nickname your guys Arena last podcast? the Bachers big big Yeah But that's fire. I mean, okay like I know you said You're worried about you guys, not who you're playing. Like what do you? And early in the season, what are you worried about or necessarily or excited about like in house. Speaking of our game tonight. so that that meme that we didn't get to That like Oh, whoh oh, sorry sorry sorry. So I just I forgot about it too because That's just like a funny meme. Like I just saw that and like we all thought it was hilarious. Everyone thinks I'm like suspended because of this. Okay, I didn't want to bring that up, but so my group text was all our boys from homeome, like Sam, Clay, Dave, Bush, Gage, allld them. Sam messaged me yesterday and he was like, Sophie posts a meme and then and then is questionable for tonight's game. Like what's going on? Like ask her on the podcast And I was like There's no way this is like as like weird as the internet people think it is. Dude. but And's so like that is it like look at our faces and like just how the game went. likeike it's just it was a funny had nothing to do with anything. And so but I know people are going to go like crazy of like, o, something more is going on. it's like For everyone, not watching for everyone listening. It's a meme with Sophie and Caitln like sitting in the locker room and it's like it's a bunch of word bubbles and cooach says, you follow the plan, right? And then Kaitln says we may have improvised and Soph says, Oops, and Kaitln says worth it. Oh Is that A or is that a real picture? I think it was actually like a real photo of because they film after wins and stuff like that. and I think like During it, something like that happened. It was just funny. So I also don't own the rights to that photo and I posted it, so shout out toever did that It's like l key foamier that it actually might be real because they're like pretty hilarious. The actual photo of us is real, but all the other shit clearly isn't Oh, those aren't real were Rebs. So like the plan the like the clipboard and stuff like that is what I'm saying, like that's not real. I don't know. So if I've seen this I've seen this face before when I when I saw the Liberty game this past weekend Yes, She was getting booed Like insanely, everyvery time you committed to I play good This one fl, she just rolled her eyes and the camera was all up in her face just like catch her sarcastic eye roll. Yeah I don't know how to explain this without it being like like I don't I don't want No, it's not like misogynistic. I just think you're such a fuck you're like such a girl And it's fun to watch like you play basketball because you do the most girly shit ever like You wouldn't get in the NBA like when you like walked homeome girl like a few weeks ago and you like did like this shit And then like eye rolling, like it's just funny because you're like just a a sassy girl playing basketball and like I think it's very fun to watch and Thank you Yeah, I like that's a draw for the W if people want to like probably more You know personersality and like real personality. Yeah. Yeah. that shit so funny. I knew Kev said that the like the WNBA put out Is it quarter quarter season? Oh yeah, ES he had't put this out. I think twelve games in forty four games season So yeah, ESPN gave out some report cards for the quartermark. So so woed what you think you you would give the gray the fever this year What I would grade us right now, I would give us a sixixty two percent Well, it's I think it's probably like a letter grade. Oh Well, so then that would be that's I think that's like a C Well, sixty two would be and would technically be an F. I think so far this season, we are a C. Just because we are inconsistent And like we ha't caught our rhythm When we click, we're freaking A plus plus, like. Okay, let's go. Yeah. so we just gota get the cons consistency piece. but I know that they saw. they said Olivia Miles was like up for Rookie. She's going to get Rookie of the ear. I don't know if anyone has watched her play, whoever's listening to this. She is a Beast An actual bef. Olivia Miles Baller. Where'd she go to school? She went to Notre Dame and then she went to TCU. but dude Bros baby. Yeah she is, I'm not kidding She lik She just has like the wiggle of a guy. L she she is so good, her passing, her shooting. her court vision, like she is she is good, good good. I like her. And I know I know people think it's weird when like You compliment other people in our league because you have to play against them. But I also' like give this girl her flowers. Like she is a freicaking beast. I'm a fan. weird to say. You know what the you know what the NFL does I think is really awesome is they have the players vote on their top ten players at each position and then they do NFL top one hundred and it's based on peer players like rankings.s cool. so It's ye, it's like purely based on other players. and I think When that list comes out every year, it's like very, very interesting. to see how incredible content. I think that's cool. Like I think It's I know there's a lot of guys in I don't know there's a lot to choose from. but I think that our sport is always just like So I mean, so is their, but it's like always so un comppetitive and there's not that many of us. And so you're always going against each other. But I think it is cool to like give people their flowers and Olivia she one hundred percent deserves it because she is putting like the whole league on notice right now. like huge. She's good Okay, not to be dramatic, but my Jl headopphones have basically become my personality trait at this point. They are on twenty four seven And somehow the battery just refuses to quit. Like I keep waiting for mine to run out and they're just like, not, we're good. And let's talk sound. These are super clear, crisp, and plenty loud I use the over the ear pair for flights and I'm telling you, game changer, great for listening to your favorite podcast. 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Was this in the seies Did you win this I know was the double header or was It was It was it was Smies, dude. You didn't have a championship? No and Obviously right now My life is a little like chaotic and just kind of like everything feels heavy. Kick Mall was like my one out ball was like, I look forward to seeing my friends and like running around on a field. Nothing mattered. and losing that game. fucking broke my fucking spirit ay you could keep it going though. likeike you guys go go out there for fun There I think the group Taxas talk about team dinner nice. We'll see if that happens. Wes he had to been a winter league in the DR Yeah. Yeah, work on work on everything. And I woke up and we lost and I was like, I was fucking sore and like I was like, Damnbra. This shit shit hurts. 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