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So who ases me, what Like a young lady maybe? I don't know. No, that's an older one.ature I mature m. Yeah. Excuse me, Miss. Excuse me, Miss Mis M Miss M Mivish. C. And he has letters like if you go across the street, like, he adds letters. he like he says across I don't. I don't not anymore throw letross Yeah cross the road. over there. have you ever saw? Anyway, this is. Okay. WWE and Fanatics. original production. I am the OD. original deead Man. And this is my beautiful coost Michelle, Monnoney McCool and our guest today, my goodness, probably the most decorated champion, if not the most decorated champion, he's got to be in the top five for sure a three time Tag team champion, currently champion, a two time United States champion, a two time hardcore champion, a two time sllammy award winner And outside of the WWE, a two time NWA worldor heavyweight champion, a two time NWA world tag team champion and one time TNA worldorld Tag team champion. But the biggest one, this is the one that puts you over the top, a fifty three time. twenty four seven champion By far the most in WWE history. Ron The truth Killings My man.. He,ud. have me met. Dude. So happy you're here. fifty three. times? You crashed weddings and stuff, didn't you? I thought were fifty four, but yeah, fifty three though. Not good at math. We say right? We say it that. We'll double check. If it comes up fifty four, we will we will correct. We put that on the coundter at our cookout. Yall we having a cookout, man's too far ahead of ourselves. No, no. we've beenking about this cookout though for like a year. Take is not want to do it. I don't know what's the hold up, but you know he's Be like, okay, we can do, we can' do, can't do. The cook out would be great, to. No Well, yeah, no, if the cookout, you're more than welcome, comeome to the house and bring people. What that stuff? Youeep can br some people.eep can bringing people. Like I'm need I'm gonna need a guest list Okay. I mean, I get you on a guess. Yeah. I get it. I get it. Right. Yeah. C you go Joe Rros you work with and I mean, wow. justust the good ones. Just the good ones. The cool ones. The cool ones. Ro. Okay, raised b Yeah, ye, rightight. What about Dom? Dont the two can the two be in one place? Okay. Don't come. Don't can come. Solo with album guys. Oh yeah That's a lot of food. That is right. Hey,' we' to brother. That's a lot of meat going right So M that I We're gonna make a guest list out for everybody. All right We talk about this for a year. Yes. We the White album. You too, You too We talking about this for a year. We included you too No I' hear you talking about it, but I don't really think that I'm I don't think I'm too I don't think I'm included in the No, he's included. It's very included. He's been included day got one there I'm gonna have to dig the pit and put all the We have aprons together. Aprons, mat hs. Yep, Dpatulas. Riding dirt bk, riding four wheels. Ring four wheels dirt bikes No, no, ' we're gonna grilling A dipping everyverybody else Dipping the pool rununning around doing everything while we' going cook And we're gonna c. And we're going to do the white album. The whole thing started with. Mitch asked me about the White album And I said, you know what? I want you to take it to hear. I want youall to listen to it. And they were like, Ohh, we should you have a cookout at the house like, cookout, That's a great idea, Mitch. You think you came up with it. So we said, we have a cookout Do the white album, invite the people It make be done deill, you know? I mean I do this first. Oh This is traditional. L I've been around the game for a long time y'all. and take No, man, I was watching you when I was a kid. No, but take it. Take it. He h me with that? He did, he did. I love you, br. Hey minie, I could even try with it. Hey mininie He' there. your presentation too. My bad. All right. goo ahead. Aain. I' go ahead.. Just go ahead. I'll leave Okay. For y' don't know, take take it to generinner. he's the sergeant, he's the He's the guy that ran the locker room. When you did wrong, when there was court cases, when there was anything If you want to get on the guy's good side He had to bring him somebody us. And not meaning you're gonna Be on the good side But that it helps. It softens it. It softens. It helps. I appreciate that gesture of You never went to Wrestler' court, though. I didn't, but I don't even think he remembered this. Remember the time you put me in check? Oh, Do tell, Do tell. Oh I can't remember what I had for breakfast. Oh my gosh. what happened? I don't know if it was a chamber. It was a match we had Um I was right with Ray Mysterio. and Ray wanted some a latte. He wanted some coffes. I don'toubt. Ray wanted to get some kind of coffee. And okay, cool get the coffee, but we was late. And I was in a payer per view match with Takers, Sean It was a big match. There was a lot of people in the match. It was like forty five minutes late? Oh no And everybody everybody was in the roing when we got there, right? And Take was just sitting there like L look like he was harmless L like was takeer. He' just sitting there and I came in shaking everybody's hand. Hey,'s up Sean? What's up Se? What's upar? you? Well, I got the takeer. When he gave me det and poured me in I remember that was s, He pulled me in Very disrespectful. Oh, you got this man, you got that man, you got him waiting on you for the payer view O, ouch. Two drops of pea came out. You know what I'm saying? Becauseuse it was you know I'm saying? like not only disciplinary, but it was just the position I was in, that the opportunity I was having with these calibber of guys and it's takeaker. He's cool than a fan, but it was when he had to like Yeah, grits he was eat your grits. Not two drops of pea though. Two drops came out. Yeah. Two drops came out ye. Yeah didn't't can't I can't even say that. Two drops of pea I guess the message was received, I guess. Received well Did you see Did you see any of the courts in action? No, I would hear about them. Oh yeah. You hear about them,. I Ray had me. That's neither here nor there. But Wait it's here. The court cases was like Jack Daniel was one of the main things that was needed at Corces if you wanted to have your it was fun. Yeah. It was the boys and it was the way of like take her handling and controlling the locker room in a playful way.. But the damn hammmer was down. knew There was no games. You knew.. It was a way of sending the message without having to like really ultra heavy and like you're screwing up here. L So we have you have an option. and that's a test as well. It's like how how do you receive this Like so, you know, back then we were on the road worked all the time. We you know, people get people get a little short and they get a little little high strong sometimes. So you need you needed a little bit a of levity sometimes and keeping everybody on the on the right plane. And it wouldn't be like, hey, you know, you got to do this, you gott to do that. But there is a decorum to what we do. Yes. T is Time is important and respecting these guys in the locker room. and I think You know, I think a lot of people here, you know, we so many guys have talked about Wrestlers's Court and I think, you know, they o man, it was, you know, it was it was a, you know, it's it's a it's a bullying thing and it was is that No, it's it's a way to let you know You screw it up a little bit and we're just gonna to bring it to you in this manner But you might want to get you might want to get your shit together. Y. because the next time we got to talk about this, it's probably not going to be as pleasant. That's it, right? So you know what? Everybody's in a good mood. Now Now some of them, some of the restrest are squirts because there was a lot sometimes there was personersal personal beefs and and they could get a little they could get a little tense. but the overall like the overall objective to wrestlers' courourt was to handle an issue, but not make it a issue.. Yeah. So never come N go above or beyond it. It was just always right there with the boys. And the way you handled it, man, it was like It was professional. It was teaching professionalism. It was teaching respect, it was teaching decm, it was teaching so much to new talent like myself K Quit coming in. And the guys that were still there that would still be the guys. You just kept us straight man was Almost like it was you kind of wanted to go to wrestling court just to like you know what I'm saying? L But it wasn't what you thought it was, but it was what was needed. Feel me? Yeah. There was some Yeah. backack then. back then.. Yeah, back then Yeah, it was yeah, it was. Yeah, I'm trying to think like someome ones that got a little more .. I can think of one. Godfather one? Melina Oh o was that one. Tell me about that was that one That was that one that one Oh. Oh, I for that's what I'm talking about. Yeah Oh, yeah. Melina was involved in that. was was that the one where where's the one where Charmel got so hot? That was was She was in that one. It happen. That happened in Australia.. That started in Australia. I didn't even't jurisdiction Wait W was it Austr?it wait was it Austria or Australia? 'cause we were on that tour. Oh. Was that your first slip up? likeike the big Yeah Because it didn't become a thing after that, right? It Yes, it was. That was so.. I had kangaroos in my bag, little kangoos, but legit I guess I could go with your mom.. ' I didn't know that was a difference. But I'll never forget. we were cracking up backstage. You came back and just so happened NVP was right there too, and Mark was like, banks. He said, you know the difference between Australia and Austria? You're like, man, he read many books in prison. Yeah That was your response and I'll never forget it. You're like, they start with an A. they both, you know, they sound the same. We work. The greatest part of was the conviction which you said it, you were so so confident and kept repeating it, right? I proud. Yeah. Yeah. I can almost see in your face like, why are they not popping are they pooing? they love. There's in Australia, right? Yeah, that was funny. No, no no I right now. See can thing S thing Yeah, same thing. Wh's different continents. It' As. Like most of the letters are the same. Almost, right? rightight? They started off the same How confusion. I mean, you know, put an L or something in there. You're right there. Exactly. Tooo many letters in there. was A You take one or two out and you got too, know But back to that that court case in Australia with yeah. But the thing that always stands out, look at that was that was tense. and it was almost like It was almost needed. I don't know if you remember wereere you were in there, right? Yeah. Yeahah, yeah, yeah. where Larry Heck came in with the big platter of drinks Yeah. because we'd been in there so long. I mean, this platter was this big. it was full.. It was full of shots and everything else And he's walking up and we were in a the room, was it was a little bigger than the studio, but it wasn't a big room. but there were a lot of people in there and he tripped He tripped al spilt that whole tray of drinks. He almost we almost stopped that case and brought him up I was so hot. G. We had been in there a while and it again, it was the atmosphere was it was a little tense and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I got you know ' that's what two thousand Sven go seven. Seven? Yeah. so, you know, everything was, you know, that was one of the that was one of the the wrestler' court had There were less days coming L abve than there had been. Yes. Yes. It was kinder becoming a kindler, kinder gentler Yes. era. and yes. that one ye So yeah, that tray spilling everywhere. and I just remember looking at him and him looking up at me. He was just like, you had one job. You had one job, Larry. They feeloted the whole thing. Lry. The whole thing I think he just turned around, walked back out and started I don't know how much money was on that tray. There was a Oh my gos. Yes. Be that was full. It was I felt bad for him. I did for a second. then I was h. For a second. That was h I'm gonna I'm gonna need a little extra judge reasoning here to get out of this situation T not bring on charge Yeah, right? Holy smokes, man We've all been there. 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Oh Miyama Hey, tell these Spanish lengs. Wh Spanish took out? m took out. Oh, I can't. Reagan help us. Yeah. Were you on that tour that the volcano erupted? Yes. Were you both our buses You remember were you on the bus with it was me, Ray, Glenn was on the bus. when we finally pulled up in Paris and we all had to run off the bus? to the air Do you remember when Steamboat turned around? because our driver spoke Spanish and Steamboat turned around Do you remember? We were doing the train up luggage? He turned around Ray and goes, Ray Speak that language. Speak that language to him, right? We got to come Speak that language to him, right? You gott speak language.aking We were so done after twenty seven hours that we we had buses that broke down. Barely got up the hill. This guy was driving the bus and it was smoking out the bus everything. And when the driver of the bus does this It b. It's ban, right? Do That't ban. Do you remember when we like we stopped at a gas station for a bathroom break ' becausecause we didn't have bathrooms the whole entire time either. and they're like, you' got two minutes. Yes. Because we were gonna miss every single. shut down of the airport, like we were taking trains and carars. That was wild. And it was on the side the road for a while too, right? BeCause it broke down ' it was smoking. I remember Jericho was like in the middle of the bus with his feet up Glenn was in the aisle. Yeah about just drinking beer. No food. We had nowhere to go. No food. Yeah Oh yeah. That was crazy. I forgot about that. We had to ride a vol We had to ride a train. My first time ever riding the train. Same me too, I think it was fast, but boy. I was so. I miss that one. I wont for. No. I said, Rick, he's only dead. He need the cross and Ricky. I said, we gonna die.. And Ray listened to everything he's saying, you know, being able to translate it. but yeah, that was o man, that was horrible. Wow. Speak that language you speak Oh yeah. volcano tour. It's all. It's all glamor. No one ever thinks about those kind of trips and and the things that you have to go through sometimes to get where you got to get. Unfortunately I was at home on that looot. so Raw had it back too, but they were in the same spot. Like they just got to stay in their hotel. Right. And then we landed And had to go straight to TV and just all straight to TV. All sours of out of it What did you he the pop when we took off? Oh, we were so excited because we had like only a few minutes to spare. Jesus was crying. We was like say it You y'all were those people that we laapped when you were clapped. Oh, one thousand percent. We were running through. it was Paris. We found was it Paris I don't know, but literally we only had a few minutes. Oh remember that they started circling once we got there. They couldn't find which terminal we were supposed to be in. so we finally think we've made it. We're gonna take off and they miss our a our driver. the driver because he was cing around. Oh. I trying to make sure we're the right place man. If you don't get us in the right place Right now, you're gonna lose it like it was die. Like you say, I'm trying to find find trying to find a place. trying to find trying to find. You feel's crazy. I can imagine I can imagine at that point the boys had all they were gonna You know when take When Glen gets hot, you know? Glen hot. Glen got hot. Oh. He had to run too. We was running. Oh. Glen got hot, didnt yeah. Oh, he was hot. ' that's the voice of reason at all times. Yeah. Oh man. Could you imagine the big railwaysine just running through the airport, doough. We all with our luggage, everything just Oh That was really fun That was crazy Oh F times. times. I remember years ago, we were we landed in I think it was which one's the bigger one in Heathrow? Is Heathrow bigger than Gatig? Yeah, He I think he big one. Yes. And we have we landed We landed in Heathrow We landed in Heathrow and we had to go across the airport to catch another flight to go. I think we were going up to Ireland or somewhere like that. And Big Yoke, man, bless his heart. like he just gasped out. He just He just stopped. He just stopped He sat down. Yeah, he had to catch another flight 'ause Wh are you laughing? I mean, youugh You' laughing Michelle I' laughing man. Michelleugh no. I was la You're making me laugh, man. I didn't laugh. I You were snickling. Snickling. Yeah. Sling. Snling snling. snickling. It was bad and then I got on the plane and I was like, Dang, I should have stayed I was tired too. L it was like he just like, that's a big airport though. It's huge. Yeah. And they should have had some kind of they should have had some kind of transportation. You have the gard This car This is back in the day, man. No, you weren't getting no cars. You ain't getting no cs. You ain't getting picked up on the g on the jetway, none of that stuff that that we get later on, but back then end, man, you just all foot. All foots. No moving us later Running. Yeah. And it was And we was running We look shoot, one of the worst airports is Charlotte. Charlotte spread out they don't a. O one of those airports is Orlando. Oh, yeah. And Denver iss pretty big, too, right? Denver. Denver iss long. That's a big airport. Yeah. If you get something. Did you you grew up in Charlotte. So you've been it there your entire life. N never moved I lived in Nashville. Okay. Memphis, Georgia Just just right, That's it. L come out, I don't think I'm going nowwh What's it like growing up there There's hospitality there Yeah. B Texas. Yep. We still say yes, ma'am, No, ma'am. Yes, sir. Y'all can say that? Oh yeah yeah People are crazy we raise our kids. they don't I'll tell you what, when I grew up If say we're at the dinner table and my mom asked me something and it was like a yes or no answer, and I would go, o yeah, I'd look up, my dad be looking at me like Boy G right I say? Yes, ma'am. And I he didn't ever tell me what to say. I knew exactly knew what I needed to say. All I had to see was his eyes and Yes, ma'am. Yes. o God. Yeah. Yes, sir, No, ma'am. And, you know I'll do it I still do it. Me too. I said yes, ma'am, and no maam. People like, Are you in the military? I was like, No, I was raised by a man said you require.. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's just one of those I think it' it's a southern thing. It's a southern thing. Yeah. And of course every place's got its bad spots, good spots bad spots North Colina like. G going from grammar school to middle school to high school to making all my mistakes, learning all my lessons, growing up as a man, becoming a man, having kids, and D Cege just has my heart. Yeah. All my experiences, all my accomplishments, my failures, my successes, it just And you played sports in high school, didn't you? Football, track. Football and I ran track. But music was always your Music was love. Yeah. That was your passion. That was a way I could express myself. You can communicate with people, you can U Educate people You can give people comfort. Like a lot of my music now, I get so much music people like, Ohh man, the White A has helped me in times of depression and times of I've lost this person in my life. becausecause all my music speaks about is You know, being your own chill eer. Um, Life ain't always be ros and cheres, ain't always be sweet, but you know what I'm say?ike You' got the power, you got the strength to do be. If I did it, anybody can do it And my music pretty much expresses how I feel, how you see on TV. The music is pretty much our truth. is Ron Killing is I love that. But who instilled that in you? Your mom? I mean, you're such a I would say my mom or dad did My mom, my dad, my family, um Be around the right people. I mean, and I think we as humans, we get a chance to be around the wrong people too. We pick up bad habits or we see worse habits than the ones we got justustif. Yeah, you' justustified. You Yeah, right. I doing. I'm definitely doing that. Well at least I don't do that But it's like I don't know, I don't think much to be just Rpectful Be a good person, be a good human. Wanna help somebody, Somebody help me. I was in a halfway house when Jack Rocket saw me. Yeah. How many people help you in a halfway house Not many. You know? And I was asking, I won't forget it's so funny. when I turned him down the first time I was on the phone. I was like, man, I just I just want you to invest the money in my music career. All I wanted to do invest my career. Jack Crcket from WCW can invest the money in my career. He said, Don't forget how a special place I met you at. So Oh he dropped it back on you. He turned it around. Okay. All right Nobody's just gonna give you money Yeah. 'a you say you have a dream or you're talented. I'm going to give you opportunity to Explore your dream and make it happen for yourself. He canest in yourself. He believed in me. like man, then when when I did the twenty fourth thing and WWB found him and I saw him again, it just it struck up all those old feelings of like Being out of high school, getting with the wrong people, the wrong crowd, making those mistakes, not knowing what you want to do with your life, man. L's I know how it feels so it's easy to reach people or I can see it. I know that I know how it looks and walks to not know what you want to do with your life, but you want to do something. I don't want to do that. I want to be this. want Seeing Jack Crocket brrou all those back up because I gave up on me. When I see Rad Dog, I gave up on me Re and stuff he don't even know like when I saw him being I don't even talk about because it gets emotional but. When I saw, it's good for vs. Go ahead. G. He just said he' use me. It was using He' sitt here talking about, you know, it to call snuff and being kind to people No No no, no, no, no. I'm invested in your story. I really am. But I need some views too. You help me. Okay. I help you, you help me. Okay. Hel me help you help me. I go got. I don't But no, when I see Re Dog every time it's like a to give up, like think about it. I met Jack Crockett coming from the streets, you know what I'm saying? And selling and doing this and that, but to believing something and believing yourself, it didn't happen. I got signed to a contract and when I met Rll Dog in Memphis My contract was done then this back when Kelly Kevin Kelly was there and now that you know they say Okay. My contract was coming up. I hadn't already gave up because I was having issues at in Charota at home. and my mind wasn't there in Memphis and deevelopmental. And I was like, I'm ready to ququit man. I'm not made for wrestling.' Man, the words that he spoke to me and just to have somebody believe in you means a lot. It didn't take a bunch of people. He believed in me and said, Hey, man, you got what it takes.,, man, just you got to hold on ive me can you give me too muchth? Ill have you out of here. It's just He took me under his wing to have somebody giveive a damn about me. It's just like that's powerful to me. I've heard a quote, somebody said, peopleeople helping people is a powerful thing. And I've gotten where I'm at in life by good energy and good people. And that's just something my ball always like and sted That's awesome. I think that's if you have one person If you just have one that believes in you and has no ulterior motive, just believes in the person, I mean, that's all it takes. That's all it takes. Don't take a lot. Don't take a group. J one. So you didn't have So wrestling wasn't wereere you a fan of wrestling or just I was a fan of it. I was aware of it. I loveved Nikita Kolov, Ron Simmondons, JY D. Briger Steamboat, Magum TA. I loved all of dusty, but I just it wasn't like I want to be a professional wrestler. Right. N was. Professional wrestling came about from Jack Crocket. and again, it goes back into me knowing how to tap and relate to those type of people. Not only not knowing those type of people that don't know what they want to do with their lives or they want to do something or this and that, it's just it never was my thing. But sometimes you have to take a different route. Yeah to get where you want to go.. And wrestling was my different route. It saved my life It got me out of the streets. It taught me to career, it taught me how to be a man, how to be professional People I've toured around the world because of wrestling. Wrestling has suited me up for life And That's people that's all they want to do in this business is wrestle There's so many things that I wantan to do. Wrestling was a avenue and a tool that my higher power gave me to use for man, when I see people and they say, Briob, I grew up watching you. You're my hero was my mom. Yeah He hit me again. good, You're good Yeahess she missed it the first time. Yeah, but it is Wrestling man has brought so much to me by taking a different route that you never would expect. Sometimes The different route you take, maybe the route you put have been taking a long time ago. You don't even know that. You want to know it until you take it. True. And we always wonder like, one thing I learned from S is like I sometimes will say, I wonder what will happen every week or he said, whyy wonder about it Let' do it. It It't's done it's over. goo here. goo there. Go where you know. Don't go where it's been where you already know it's not gonna be We're about one heel at a time Riceina So Okay, so bring me up to speed. So how did how does Crocket how does he find you? How does he now I'm invested in a story I don't don't I don't know. We're in a halfway house and I'm telling jokes. This is a little corner over there where the inmate's at. know we got the weight, got a little bench set. and I'm over there telling jokes and dancing. Crocket will come in Every day at six o'clock, he would be up for like a couple of hours two throughout, he will go to bed. He would wake up, five, he would be gone all day So that was his workerly schedule. So he would come in, not knowing he was watching me. This is a true story. The deputies They se my pictes with Tu Puck Chakor and Ey E and all these rappers and they were like, bro, you're not supposed to be in there. You're supposed to be out there, you know doing something else with your life. And o, cool. We're gonna find somebody to invest in you. That's where the investment thing come from. We're gonna find somebody to invest in you in your music You become a big rap star and we can stop working here and work for you. Damn dog, that sound cool Let's do it.ounds really good. Thatounds. So they going through all the people's files and fil like I come with a couple of guys money laundndering,'s not' want toy that you' got in trouble with. Jack W. have you ever heard of professional wrestling? Yeahah. WCW like, Well, this guy him the cameraman, he's over there. Maybe he could help you out. I'm like,, you think he w to invest They talked to Crocket. Crockett wanted to talk to me because he thought I was athletic and I looked good and I was entertaining and. so me and Crockett ended up talking. And we talked for maybe he had four months left I talked all over four months. He said, give me a call when you get out. I legit thought Cark wanted me to cut his grass. I so did. Come on. But I gave him a call, he came and picked me up, took me at the Bin against. the first time someone ever offered professional wrestling to me Okay. I turned them down because I wasn't mature y. I just wanted the money. Yeah. Hold Hold twenty four, twenty five? No. Oh yeah. Still mature. Not even I would I would have asked that money up. I'm sorry Yeah wasn't there. So he turned me down. He said, When you ready, give me a call Two years later within these two years, I'm back and forth in jail. I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. So I also know those type of people when you're sick and t of being sick and ti. Call crocet back and say, Ay, man, whatever you need, whatever I need to do I'll do it. He this one costs you up with time and dedication. And if you want it, I'll know it. came and picked me up, flew me to Atlanta, first time ever be on an airplane. went to two WCW shows. They had a back to back show And now my first time at a wrestling event ever. Oh my goodness. And he's sitting there, he's not retired. He's a cameraman. He's ready, you know, he's done. He's sitting there with me and Rick Flair music hits. And I'm watching and I'm seeing it and I'm feeling these just drilling and the people And Rick Flair comes down and Crock is like, S, that could be you. That could be you. Remember how you was dancing in jail? That could be you dancing you dancing to the ring. and you can get in there, you can use all those dancing I saw you do a split in jail. You could do that. He pretty much talked my character to Wow. Int existence. And this is like It's a good thing, good feel with me because nobody knows how it feels to like have that like this is a freaking story fairy tale. This is from the deputies to meet Crocket to him telling me this to me going to developmental with George South, him training me and man Fernandez, Ring Bull training me to Rick Michael's dad and meeting Bill Bars and Rick Michael's dad said, Hey, man, you belong on TV. this is Three years into me being trained. Rick Michaels, I'm in Georgia. He said, I mean in AJ Style before AJ was on TV.. Before he was on TV. He said, You belong on TV, man I said, Bro, I'm just happy I'm not in jail and I can wrestle They was paying me fifteen dollars in a couple of hot dogs. You know what I'm saying? I'm good. what I'm saying? You don't even have a gold. You don't have the vision yet, right? Nothing. Yeah. Nothing. I'm so green, t I just I was happy that different route was just. peaceful and they accepted me dance I would do country music after I would rap. Ax AJ. I would sing a country song. W it was Wayland Jenny's Yes Some digging up bones. bones. Yeah Rand. I was saying that you know what I'm saying? Going from there to Snding a tape in. He said, send this tape in. M me a tape. I send it in. I got call from Terry Tayor two weeks later. Two weeks? Two weeks later. So this is like I'm just like it's rolling and h. I'm like, okay, this is crazy like. Like this is too easy. Not either but like le what I'm saying Two weeks l ago got call and they flew up to meet V. This is the funny part right here. Imagine that, right? You know I'm learning sayy, you're right? I put it I was like sixty three, two, sixty.. He didn't call you out on that, did he? Sly laid eyes on it. Hey Pal. Oh yeah. So Terry Taylor looks at me, he's like You're not sixty three. I said now I'm actually six one He said, you're not too six. I said, B, I've been trying to gain more weight. I said, And he just he said si, come on. Tk me with Vince love me And Two weeks after that, I was given my first contract. Geez. And I was on a contract for maybe , You know how it was the first time. wayay back then, it was about seven months And I didn't go nowhere. Just getting paid. Just getting paid. I called them because I didn't T'all they sending me this money and I'm not going to I haven't goingone to work yet. She said, Don't worry about it this gonna this. It's fny. look. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. man, it's coming. But ma'am I don't want tona get his money back. I can't pay it back I can't. Im I can't pay it but she said, It's fine, it's fine. Terry had to call me, Ter me, it's okay. Just save some of that 'cause we've got thing called taxes now. Which I didn't that's a whole different story. Yep. I come back next one p with that one. Everybody learns that lesson the hard way. Oh my gosh. Yes. Jenny Mac had to help me with that one too. Yeah, Yes. Oh my gosh, man Big news. WWE and sports fans. The world's number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest is making its return to New York City. Fanatics is bringing you closer to the league, team, superstars and athletes you love across Four actction Pack Days in July. Meet your favorite WWE superstars. Get your hands on exclusive merch Catch live podcast and interact with the biggest names in sports Tickets are on sale now and fans for the podcast get a ten percent discount by using code Take her ten at checkout You don't have a special relationship too, huh? Oh my yes And I'll never, regardless of what. ye. circumstance or whatever, that'll always be he always be that that's my you know what I'm saying? Like ye I fit my family. I was able to like make a living for years. I've been around this business for like, I've been in people's households have experienced I' beent sub Marines Oh, I don't want to go on a submarine. Very narrow. Very narrow. I don't want to go I don't want that vince guy stuck had to push me in the a. Oh no. Yeah. Give me this. Give me the story on the How do you and Vince end up on a submarine Where you have to push his ass up up So I did this shoulder thing and pushed him in the ass. All right, But that's when he got stuck. Going between we had to cght these whole things. The hatches. The hatches. Yeah. the submary like But why are we all on the submary They would give us a tour of it. We would doing something with the military.. He would always take me with him with the military. Yeah. So it was go to submarine like ye. Big Show couldn't go. No, no, he didn't get know with the submarine. They he would not fit like he could not go at all. And when Vince got stuck, we saw why Big Show couldn't go I'm surprised They didn't. I'm surprised Vince didn't make Big Sh go. Right? Right? That' that that would have been that would have been Vince one hundred on one to make Big show go there. D point. And then when he couldn't get through the hatch didnid't give him all kind of greed. But that's funny, Vince wouldn't fit. He would not fit. Wow And it was like But's he wasn't like overly big, but they're made just for those small guys. Oh thank you. now I'm curious. Was it a modern submarine or was it like an old was it like a pontiac? pontiac. W an old one. T, I don't know. I don't I know I just want My point to this is my point The basketball player, David Robinson, they called him the addmiral. When he came out of the Naval accademy, they put him on a submarine. He was six foot ten seven foot. But that's long. I know, but still you them up. I know. up Still it can't be easy to get juice and thick.ig bone. Big bone. Anywhay. my m. I got a little distracted with that because I started thinking about yeah, seven foot and back No, he's tall, yeah, but he's not. Like I say it They by this size right here. No way, no, thank you.. Might be a little bit better.. I'm not even Oh yeah, you can be tested. You're gonna be tested? No, thank you. I've been on what's the big aircraft carrier ships? Right. I've been on those. Those are huge. I've experienced more in this business vic man that I have experienence in my life and that people will only read about in history books Did you realize in the moment? 'cause I look back, sometimes it's hard to realize those things in the moment. You know what I mean? Because it kind of becomes normal 'cause you're doing so many crazy things that it's like it becomes your normal, but it's not normal by any stretch of imagination. None. And that's those those words, phrasase we hear of takeake timee the Smell of roses You know what I'm saying? Like We never stop to look and embark on what we're experiencing. Witnessing going through and o man, like You can repplay I can repay my life back and just She was good Yeah. It It's probably amazing to be in one situation wondering what tomorrow brings to where you're at now, the platform that you have, the experiences that you have. The life you've changed. Yeah That's in and And the more we do this, the more I do this, it ain't for me. It's for every life that I change. You just said that a lot of things I've been thinking about for a long time. My family come to me and tell me, they saw me and they grew up with me and that, it's the life I change That's I think that's what all this is about. But you have that special quality that every person you talk to feels you make them feel so super special. I mean people backstage, fans, everybody, you just have that amazing thank you. It's great that we all. It's a gift. It's such a gift. Yeah I know when I come around the shows, you're like one of the people that I actually look out and seek. Y. I mean one, because obviously we work together for so long. Right. But yeah, it's just where's truth. I loves. Yeah. We have a h We've always hook like that since day wandnder. Yeah. I mean, we yeah, it's always been like that. Al it's always special because again, there's been so much turnover already since I've been gone. Right. Yeah. There's lot people, I mean, I know who they are, but I don't know them Somebody doesn't know. You you look for those the ones you know I look for the Rays and I look for the artres Yeah and the Randy Randy Yeah right. me R Randy by the only ones left, right? Yeah you guys Which begs the question. Like I know you get it all the time, but you look the freaking exact same. How is that possible? Not even just looking the same. you mo the same. Like you still do the splits, you still I never stopped working out since high school though. Only neither have I, but I aged fifty eight years I mean What's the secret? There's a secret He said you did stop. What did she stop? stoped. What did she do? Well, it may be the people that she hings up with. Oh. Well no, I feel like her You don't stop because you get old, you get old 'use you stop. That's very true. You know what I'm saying? I heard Billy Gun say that. Look at Billy, like He is Jacksill. And' I'm a true believer in that. I really I tell my son this too. I still see you as the little kid cutting lawn in front of me. Like I don't know if I stop in my mind at a certain time frame or I just said I just do it to I'm stopp. You know what I'm saying? When I say my ride to the wheel fall off, That's what I'm mad. . I really feel when you stop using what you got, you lose it. Oh, that's true. Yeah, that's true Is You do have such an incredible connection with your fans. and I want to get to something else a little bit later about that. Is there something is there something that you Is there part of our truth that the fans, you wish they could see that they maybe they don't Um I wish you see that I'm normal, like everybody else. I never Wait a minute. Well, in certain, I go through the same things that everybody else through. All right, now'm You got me back. Yeah, you got me back. I go through the same things that everybody go through happappy, sad Disappointed H Dpressed Come. angry. I have all those same emotions and feeling that everybody else have. I'm human But I try to make it a habit, I try to make it my mission when I'm outside of when I'm out in public, I'm You won't ever see that on me because onnce I've been prepared to this position that I'm in, I'm looked upon as a different way. I'm looked upon as a light. Yeah. And there's no need for you to see my lifes dim because I got something personal going on with because I'm out for you to be I'm out to be seen now. so So but just when you see me just know, you never know. Right. You feel me Yeah, I think that goes a long way because sometimes there are encounters when people people are so invested in the people that they follow or their're celebrities, you know, and then they come across these people sometimes and they're like, oh man, he was a, you know, he was a dick Right, right R. man. he was rude and you know, I don't think they it's really good that you can carry that and suppress what's going on in your real life. because a lot of times it just sometimes it gets so overwhelming And the person comes up and there's a little too demanding. I think that's probably one of the biggest reasons. sure, there's celebrities they're a holes. Right. There just is. I mean, that's just, but I think for most bad interactions or encounters are a lot of times that very same thing that You know what? We have we have real lives going on and we have to put this hat on. But, you know, I think I think Id like to think that anyway, that that's probably the main reason why bad encounters with celebrities happen happen. And then I would think I would hope so too Yeah. becauseuse I don't think, um I would hope that United celebrity and will just have that bad. Yeah. Just be a bad person, You know what I'm saying? be prepeared like that, butud You know, you never know what when somebody's going through what they just went through or who's seeking their family, who they just lost. There's so much going on. But I will always be that shiny beaking of light because I know what it's like to not have one Bam, there it is, exclamation point No, that's great. I tell you what, and I think that's, you know, another thing I was talking about, the fans just a little bit ago You know, obviously you just went through a situation with the contract. It's been, like I say recently,'s been it's been a few months now. Yeah You know, a lot of speculation, a lot of speculation online, wasas he released? Was did this happen? all of that happen Were you how moved or you by your fan base rally rallying They said no They weren't having it. They No, not today. And you if you want to tell the story, I know you've probably talked about it before. I mean, please feel free to tell the whole story. But the gist of the question is basically, wow. Y fans Y fans got your back, man. Oh man, that's, um There's no way, there's no words Webster Dictionary. What are the dictionary that we have? Theres There's a Webster There's no words in the dictionary to express How that felt That was Man, my son was behind me when I got the call and When I did the tweet, it was just to like it was I couldn't be salty. I'm not mad. We said the beginning top of this thing. Truth, you've been here for a while. You've experienced a lot like yes. The ride. I'm thinking about the ride. My dad would always say, ennjoy the ride, son. The ride was phenomenal, AJ. It was great And u I owe thanks to WWE. I owe thanks to the fans. I oe thanks to the univer. I oe thanks to everybody that Enjoy this ride. And then when I tweet one out That was all it was meant to be Right. And it just I've never that's first thing ever happened in my life most moving thing that ever happened in my life. My son who was' twenty five and he's been I lived in Tennessee, that's who was with me. That's why I take care of. When I gave up, that's what I thought I, you know, I'm saying K kept going for. kept going for him you know what I'm saying? I wasing father. I was fing know I'm saying before I met my wife, it was just like for him to say Dad, it was worth it I didn't wrote down. that just. That was deep to me. when he saw me he wass like, wow, dad, it was worth it. J l to do everything in my mind. L, man, I've missed anniversaries, I've missed your school, gradu. I've miss there's so many things, occasions, funerals, there's so many things I've missed in life I never did get to accomplish so many things like it was just ' of this wrestling business and I did it, I did the best I could and I but my son said, Dad, it was worth it man. It was like, oh, I justrought tears to my eyes. just and to see the fans to hear them man, like I'm watching and I'm hearing. we want truth. Yeah. Y'all don't know how that felt. That's That's lighting in the bottle. it never happens. It was beautiful. And it wasn't just the fans. I mean, it was your colleagues because it the The reaction here in our house Yeah was the same. It like Really? Is this what like this can't be real. We're like not truth. like there's no We had this discussion right when we saw it, I was like, there's no way, but then the colleagues too start speaking out and that's I mean dis gracious. my gosh, like you my peers at work, the ring crew, the camera crew, the crew in the truck, like Every part of that machine that makes it work. spoke up again for me. Night. We always asked, are we worthy? we look like And it brings like such joy. almost makes me want to cry because it's like To feel that kind of love is like, I want everybody to feel that at some point. That's an awesome feeling. You know what that says though? You know what that says? What's that? It says you did it right It's a testament to who you are, yeah. Because that in our industry, to have your colleagues put themselves out there where they could in a position where they' be rous, you know It could come back a little bit. That means that you've touched a lot of people's lives. What you've done you've done it the right way, man. So that's it was incredible. And for an old salty guy like me that's been around and seen so much, like I was generally moved to like, dang, this guy This guy has made an impression in people's lives. and when you can do that with your colleagues and the people that surround us are production, like you said, the production crew. And thatays that says a whole lot about the human being right there. If nothing else, nothing else ever great happened in your career. having that, having your fan base go to bat for you and your colleagues, man Good on you, both. That's awesome. And of a good testament, two of that many people, over one hundred million on all social media. one hundred million? Over a hundred million. Hly Schnikees Everybody all agreed on one thing That was deep to me. That's in this world. In this world this time Yeah. in the wrestling community that is one hundred million. Not even the wrestling community scratched that. the world the world in the life right now to have that people Areeing on one thing You know, on this show, we talk a lot about the grind, the history and what it took to build a legacy in this business. Guys like Austin, Rock, Cena, and obviously, the women who completely revolutionized the division. Oh, thanks, babe Nice of you to notice, but you're right, the history of WWE is unmatched. And for the fans who live through those eras with us, that nostalgia is incredibly powerful. It really is. And if you want to represent that history, WWE shop and Fanatics have the ultimate collection of official WWE Legends merchandise. They really do They have everything from classic graphic tees and hoodies to wer jackets and tidle belts And honestly, the women's fits and styles they have now They're amazing I went off Fonatics the other day and the selection' massive You can find gear for all the gres, including of course, the underndertaker Grab your Legends gear at WWE Shop and Fanatics today Think about all the things on TV that you've done And I want you to tell me what's your favorite funny moment, but think about that, I mean, you've touched this in so many ways. You've got Well for crying out little, you broke Brock down when you brought a ladder to a match that did not involve one, you had Who was the imaginary hot tag with in that one rumble Dom? Was it Dom? Yeah Dom. Yeah seeven second dance break, littleittle Jimmy. I mean, like the list goes on to how much you have entertained us Do you come up with? I mean, knowing you, you've probably come up with most of that now? Some of it, but a lot of it just happens, you know, organically on the fly. A Yeah Yeah. little Jimmy thing happened. That was great. Little Jimmy was supposed to be John Sena fans But when I turned and started talking, Oh, he's talking to the kid right there. He's talking to him right there. was. L Jimm was born.. L Jimmy had a hell of a run. Little Jimmy had a hell of a run and people still asked about him Grown people that drive cars and pay bills. Wait Didt you pitch for little Jimmy to have his own action figure? I did. What would it be? St Nc Man said we can't do that truth. We got to get it What would it be em your space in in No, he don't get in a box with me. just his own box. It's an empty box. empx empty box People buy. I bet they'd buy it. They would buy it. would yeah They would buy littleittle Jimmy? the wrestling commity? Yeah, they would definitely buy it. I'm gonna ask Honey can I do little Jim? You bring little bring little Jimmy back. And just sell the action figure. Hashtag, brring littleittle Jimmy back. There you go. Hashtag, bring littleittle Jimmy back. Would you buy one? Yeah, I'd buy one M buy one. I buy one. But But if this takes off, I'm gonna need five percent. Okay, if we take off, we'll split off. Slit it. use it at the Cookout Nope. How we get back to cookout?. We got the White album cookout is coming to you. We could do different towns.. Oh tour. The White album cookout coming to your town. I ask. Howd you come How didd you come up with the White album It's a country music album. Have you heard it? Me and Jay Tack was just sitting around coming up with a title for the song. He's my producer. he's like, Ohh, you gonna call it? I'm like, well, it's not rap. This is just surprise people. He call it the White out. I love it. He said, why? Have you heard it yet That's good I thought so. Oh, that's so good. Brilliant. Brilliant. If you see a whide alb, you'd be like, Oh, I'm want to try this white alb and check it out. So good Mter White owl. right? Makes perfect sense. Oh, I love it. Tga. remember, I was say I got to say this only you get hot Remember when your pod caught on fire, your hair cau on fire before you got in the pod? Oh, wereere you Yeah.ot just his hair. I was beside him. Oh my pup beside him. and I was trying to get his attention. He was would not me. He was like on I'll tell you what. twelve levels of hot. literally and figuratively Like right's like sizzling, steaming. Sizzing. And I had my face mir I just try to look at him. and he was just he was just spread. he would not looking at me at all. O. He had one person on his mind and it was the Pyro guy. Yeah, that would It not the night to have my attention. Oh good. I you didn't look after I kept I He was still Oh yeah. He was focus, but he was thinking about the mag and he was thinking about killing. Yes Yes. Yeah. it was ye. He came back could have been. O many different levels that whole night could have been far worse. Yeah. Not only notot only for me He came back and the doctors were trying to throw towel like wet towels on him. He was looking for w w. Oh my gosh. forget that. I mean, you know, I don't, you know, I don't recommend the incght on fire. you know, It's not it's not my favorite Oh my goy things to do or have done to you. and Yeah that was bad. Yeah. That one of my early in paperviews too it was just You' like, what? I'm like, Oh, somebody's in trouble. Mag He's steaming hot. Yeah he's hot's hot hot too it hot. I mean, ye Yeah I don't think it's ever been more true than that Oh my gosh. Oh Yeah, that guy was probably P pulling one of your lies, My bad? Hed probably never. I That's mean, right? Oh, he's gone. I don't think Oh yeah that show Thatess that message was relayed long It looked like a ghost town when I got back there. There noobody would make eye contact with him There was tumbleweed rolling back through the through the pyro board back there becauseuse I walk imag first first ye. Body going into shock, still just trying to find. Oh my gosh. Yeah That's great. So do you have a favorite funny moment I don't. And it's almost like people asking me, do I have a favorite match? Yeah. I think every Fny moment to me has its own unique The recipe that made it so funny or made it I got something from it that night. Even with the Brock thing. Oh man. All the twenty fourty seven stuff was very funny because it was like on the fly. Right. Who does thatuff on a taright? Nothing Maybe Germany or Dubai or somewhere when we did that on the Tar Mac. who's overseas? Yeah. We did them everywhere. and it was funny. New York during Christmas, that was funny because Oh my gosh, it was so cold. And the dude, we had a horse, right? We wanted the horse to run fast. but the guy was oaky dooking us because he was speaking to the horse in Espanel. telling the horse to slow down, but we didn't know it. Yeah. there was no other l. He said, I don't know, my horse it wn't run, it wouldn't run. And so like I said, give him some more money so to g him some more money, he would speak Spanish to the horse, the horse try a little bit more faster. You know what I'm saying So the more money we gave him Yeah, he worked that wass good. everybody got game, man. Everybody got a game. It's all the work. And you literally crashed H w J Yeah, his real wedding, right? Yes. That was funny. That was funny. I remember that. He was so committed with that. he was so committed. Everybody was committed his wife's a trooper. Yeah. She was Yeah. Yeah. It did crazy numbers. Oh, I bet. Did you know F's magazine did a write up about it How did the how did the Cena the John Cena being your childhood hero? How did that come about? V? Vince, really? Ec that was a Viz wr. Viz wrote that. and The first time I did a progro I said that I'm a good watching s. You I sit there, watch him do his Saturday morning, you know what I'm saying? Challenges. The people bought it. They bid hard. They bid hard and they said He grew up watching them. He grew up watching Johnson and Johnson was his childood. They went with it, you know what I'm saying? So you can't tell. Did you have to call John and get permission to use his moves? I called John. I've got use his shorts John suggests I do the moves. Y I do everything. Yes. The shirt, the Roncena was John's idea He said, I think you do a shirt the same way I do mine and you put your face there. I'm like I said, you serious? like, Yeahah, we're brothers right? I said. Yes, we are. That is genius. like He smart. He was smart with the whole thing with it, man, and I just ran with it. It works, right? Yeah. Yeah. There's been a lot of guys a lot of guys in the business that are smart that would have said Hm, He ain't going make money off of me like that. But John's different. He didn't care. He didn't No. John is That's why John's John. John Eactly. That's why John is John. I think about bringing my daddy into it too. Oh, wait, please do . Tell me more. Yeah. Yeah, mr. Singer took me in.. S my mom was doing an indie show She went to Andie show. My mom was doing anD show. o. She went to AndDie show and she met this guy, Steve. And then what happen think they know. we'll leave that that Okay. One thing two. No, that's great. That's funny. The seven second dance break. That one just hit me. That was fun too. That was Vince. That was V. The seven second dance break. J out of he will say just out of nowhere, just do a dance break I in the middle of the promo, you just stop and just start dancing. Sry? It worked, it worked. There' people doing it on TV. I think I saw somebody doing it on It was one of the big major talk shows, they started doing seven second D break Hold on. I think it helps. It you know what I'm saying? Likeome people say, when you're mad, you upset, take a minute, just like calm down, think about it before you make a decision to talk or I ever second a dance break dog would like stop doing. Yeah. So if you're doing something bad, right? When you got burnt, when you were looking for dude, if you just second a dance break. R then win in there. No. No. M I don't think so. I don't think it would have helped that time. Most times, yeah, maybe it would have helped. I don think I don't think it was much company. I don't know, look, he hit some dance move in the kitchen the other night and I said, please don't ever do that. Did? He did. you know. Okay, okay. those new knees. the new knees, his lipss, bro I'll break it out at the cookout. Y'all see that, right? He said At the cookout, me Tate, he'll be dancing through the White O. I That' get some views, huh? That get some views That. I don't know if those are the views I need though. That That might kill me off for real re Oh, I can't. Oh, that's good You had seen a no prep time In a wrap off. Oh, Wh wins Um, No, man. I'm not really a freestyle I don't at least you got to s back and create. Yes. I'm a deep thinker, a talker. I like I like writing about experiences, tell stories, tell stories, Give knowledge, give insight I don think anybody can freestyle and just say some cool words I wanna pull and push And raise. Market freestyle Marku Henry. M D wrap one s time. Mark Henry? Yeah. Was it? Don't bring it up though. Oh no. No, never Yeah. told me anything about Dave. Oh no, you knowtobbody Nobody watches Andark I br us. Mark says he's gonna keep him if by told one more person by thatad. Oh yeah.ne more person. so you did tell somebody. I just told y'all. Oh, oh, that's it. that was it. Okay. I just told take your Mitch. That's it. Okay Yep, And we don't even know what it's all about. My d. Yeah. He ain't gonna see this f. No, no. no Mmm. Yeah, I wouldn' We just play this for ourselves. I'm woring ourselves. I'm gonna take them m again. When I see when I see you, I'm gonna do There you go. There you do it. Y. There you go I said, Take made me do it, dog. got call Take. There it is. Bom, I'm out you looking Damn dead. Wh Whiteite, white, comeome on, man How I come up on that dead. Yeah. I tell makeget about that Oh Mark. I said, my man, he just that's one thing he said. I want to talk about this. Yeah, he just cut dead out. That's cut. Cut. It's not. Cut. Done, done, D. Nobody heard that. Noobody heard it But what about the haircut, man Um I look like my dad. I. It was time, man. It was time. And I love how Everything happened right through the whole Bushaver You know, the contract me getting released all this and sn that. did me cutting the hair. I found a moment. I've been around it been this long enough, find moments to make to. Yeah. One of my songs on the White album. White Al made Ch. Well I love how people' like, Oh man, you cut your hair, That's your essence. O you cut your hair, you lost your power. or what statement are you making? It was time. Yeah I was joining Dreas together And my hair was getting thin and thin and thinner. I've fried and dyed and laid my head to the side for many years. Iose that one for. If you go back and look at pictures of me with blonde hair? like, you know' see too many dogs can people with blonde hair? I had blonde hair. I had straightened hair, I had permed hair, relaxed hair, all of it All of them takes a toll. The heir took a hell of a toll. Do you laugh No No,, no I'm sympathizing. He's a laugh of recognition. That is the laugh of recognition.' right. That is the laugh of recognition. Okay, I am one hundred percent I'm on your team on this. It was time. So I did an interview with Chris VV, right And they had the camera sign down on me And I'm not talking. and I went back and watched the tick. I'm like Yeah I could see my scalp. I could see my brain. I could see what I was thinking. You know what I'm saying? So it was like a no dog. I can't be going out like that. You know I'm saying? And I kept the dress for my wife and for my producer. I kind of was like ready to get rid of him anyway T two DMs that I saw One girl said Hey, booboo. ee, you got three, maybe four dads joined together and they're holding strong She said, We're gonna love you. We love you But it's time to let it go.. It's like. S C. We'll see that. Second DM Hey, unk Dl, we can always root for you But it's time to let him go. That one's strong. Oh. That one that take it that one that long., I got you. Oh So with everything happening and I just had the big comeback I was already talking about it and I asked Hunter, I said, He I cut my hair? He's like,ow why? I said, man I wantna cut my hair. I said I want the check I I said, it's thinning out, Hunter. I need I want a need look this He right, let's figure out I said now it' a good time, perfect time. I can. Wh's a new me. You know, and It's like, all, if you want to do the night, well do the night. And it was just me, it was time I felt like it was it was the end of a new beginning. Yeah. It gave me so much more mileage I feelel like I reinvented myself with it and I've always been that one that we live, we create, we adapt, we evolve. and we have to like go on with the time. I wn' gonna hold on to it forever. Were you looking forward to being a hill? Like did you want to? use that to go comp I'm easy. Go like that. But I think those hundreds of millions of people, they want to our truth. Oh yeah. They want the guy that made them feel. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? laugh. and that's what I wanted It wasn't have the mean guy or not the mean guy. Well Ron Killings was the guy that It just wasn't a nice hard truth. Yeah. You know, he felt like he was old something. He felt like they took advantage of him. He felt like he was overlooked. know O truth He can't be overlooked. No, and you're the best ever. I mean, the comedic relief that I don't think there's anybody Better. That like immedic relief than you I mean, I don't even think it's close. And fans won't that yah, becausecause that's special. You get there with the amount of time that you've been there too. L theyve tried like there's a certain you get to a certain point when you have runs like you've had They f your audience is not gonna accept going from one thing. I don't want to I don't want to this guy I want to be entertained by this guy. I don't there's there's nothing else that you're going to give me a hard ass is not going to that's not what I want. right Right When I turned heel as I was the American badass. Would I turn heel I think our audience kind of played along with it. Right. They didn't want they didn't want to they didn't want to they didn't want to hate me. They wanted, you know, they wanted me to kick in people's heads same thing with Austin. tried to make Austin a heal there late in his run. was like No no fun. No that's That's not what we not we want. you're in that same Well, it runs in his family. It runs in the family with you, John And Yes. Is that' like once you get to that that ultimate respect and appreciation from your fan base. They're just not going they're not going to accept it unless you come at them from a different way I don't think you can work yourself into ch changing.. There's certain things that you can do outside that will make you yeay, ye, they will turn on you, but that ain't the heat wants, right. We've experienced in too. But once you get to that that level of of people and entertaining them in a certain way that yeah, now, that's not that's not what I want from I want from that character. Totally you agree. Yeah. And that's that's exactly. that's I think that's exactly. I don't you could you could have punched babies In the crowd, right? And they would Well, that might be a bit extreme, but you know my point My point to that iss. It didn't matter what you were going to do. They were not not They're not going buy you. No, they ain't going to buy that. And that's tr you're right. And then you end up in a situation where you're doing all this crazy stuff to try to get heat and they just cheer you more. It's cheap, right. That's why when I turn to you the first time They w cheer it it's like it's not gonna work. Yeah. they're it's cool for you to do things that should be booed. Yeah. ye yeah.. So what's next for our truth, man? Cookout. The cookout. Well, I mean, not priority wise. I'm talking about in general, at work. At work, me and Dami go holding tags tit as long as we can. and I'm their mad to like I want to leave that place better than when I came there. I want to Help those guys, man, they got Oh my go, phenomenal talent there now. Like you know what I'm saying with the guys coming in. I want to work with them and help them out in any way I can. A then Let the universe take me where it takes me.. I always be around as far as creative. anyytime Deb B needs me, I'm there. You know what I'm saying? But for me, man, like with the music, with the acting, I got a movie I'm filming in September. Nice. Yeah This guysy's a limit man, I just I'm here And wherever the universe takes me, I just go So now we I get you on the big screen again too? Yeah, ye. Amen. The world is your oyster. It's our oyster. Our oyster? Yes. Are we gonna have those at the cook out? Well, they're sly for. It's not. I don't like not. Yeah he's not. You think it's funny, but it's not. It's not Yeah, but it's not that. Hey man, I can't thank you enough for making some time for us. I know you're busy, you know, you are entertainment mogul now