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Behind the Bastards' Robert Evans & The Iran-Contra Arms Dealing Scandal (Part I)
In this episode of SNAFU with Ed Helms, host Ed Helms is joined by Robert Evans, creator of the popular podcast Behind the Bastards, to begin a deep dive into the Iran-Contra affair. The two discuss their shared fascination with history’s darker side, exploring why human beings are often drawn to stories of failure, hubris, and catastrophe. Evans, drawing on his extensive background in investigative journalism and conflict reporting, provides insights into the nature of historical screw-ups and the importance of rigorous, open-source investigative work in uncovering the truth. The discussion then shifts to the primary focus: the Iran-Contra scandal. They unravel the complex, decade-defining web of deceit that emerged during the Reagan administration, starting with the U.S. intervention in Nicaragua. They examine how the Reagan doctrine’s anti-communist crusade led to the covert arming of the Contras, the subsequent congressional pushback via the Boland Amendment, and the administration’s creative—and legally questionable—efforts to bypass those restrictions. By framing these events as a massive, international "snapfu," the hosts set the stage for a critical look at how executive overreach and political gamesmanship fueled one of the most absurd and damaging scandals in modern American history.
Updated Jun 30, 2026
About This Episode
Robert Evans is a delightful human. Which makes it so funny that he hosts a hit podcast about the worst people to ever exist! Today, the mastermind of Behind The Bastards Podcast joins Ed to discuss a dastardly scheme in the early 80s involving arms trafficking to Iran, facilitated directly by some of Reagan's top brass. It's the Iran-Contra Affair on part one of this mind-boggling SNAFU. And check out our SNAFU YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/@SNAFUPod
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