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From Even More News: We All Know Tulsi Gabbard Is In A Cult, Right?Jun 23, 2026

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And don't worry 'cause Jonathan, I'm worried. Also here . Hi okay Worry about things, but don't worry about Jonathan and where he is 'cause he's right here. Right there, worry, sure , worry about everything . What is going on Iran . We're only going to talk about this for a max of two minutes. They talked in Switzerland . It's where you want to talk. Apparently going well. The Trump administration has lifted some oil sanctions and Iran says it's or we say that Iran has agreed to UN inspectors getting back into those nuclear sites. So we're we're on the steps to a JCPOA. We're on the slow steps. There' tre justap tapeing it back together just like getting as many . I don't know about the state of the straight that much. There's been this chart of what the traffic was like beforehand and how the bump in traffic since all this deal stuff has started is not really what you would expect for the full flow of traffic. And you start to get a little worried about how Trump said we got four weeks of oil left. Right? He did that doesn't stay up again because that was like that's clearly that's what he's been told and and it's just like that's a reality you have to face sir he.' Ands like o,kay well, we can, probably button this up before then, right? And was probably told by who or was probably assumed by whoever told him that he wouldn't then say it out loud as justification for the deal. Don't tell everyone in Americ a. We've only got a few weeks of oil. They should know by now not to tell them anything . Like any toddler, you tell them not to touch the hot stove. They might want to touch the hot stove. So it's a risk. Look, what I want to say about this before we move on to other things my God , how many times can we have this same fucking conversation ? But we recorded Thursday 'til the end of time. And then the next morning oh peace deals off because Israel bombed Lebanon again and then two hours later it's like wait no Israel is going to ceasefire and then it's like o,h no they',re gonna threatening to burn the whole country. It's nuts. It's impossible to keep up and everything's out of date. So we'll see where it stands and tomorrow. Yeah, about it again . We'll talk about our next episode. I'm sure we'll be saying very similar things. I'm sure unless, you know, maybe JD's gonna pull this one out. Maybe he's gonna really shine . Maybe he's gonna shine the difference No, he's gonna shine. The difference between a war with Iran with this administration and other entanglements in the Middle East with past presents accidording, to J D Vance is because this time we don't have a dumb president. So I'm quoting him from a year ago to making the rounds today . Everything he says should make the rounds every day calling Trump Hitler or Nixon one, of the other. Shall we move on to things that are not Iran ? Yeah, so we've got some new old news or new wrinkles on the old news that Tulsi Gabbard is in a cult. I was surprised by the amount of people sharing it saying this is all shocking and it is shocking. We're going to set it up the story, but we have it has been common knowledge that Tulsi grew up in a cult it was there was a foundation. I'm not sure what age her family joined this cult, but young. And she was raised in it. And there was also an understanding perhaps you know , at least the implication was put out there that she had distanced herself from this cult . But I guess maybe not. Jonathan, what is this reporting? Well, the new Washington Post report, they got lots of documents, lots of email messages, and they found that a lot of the things she supported in Congress and a lot of the things specifically that she said on cable news came word for word from emails sent from the leader or representatives of the science of Identity Foundation in Hawaii , which is like, I guess, supposedly an offshoot of Hari Krishna's run by this guy Chris Butler . Some of it maybe speaks to some of the disjointed beliefs or politics of Tulsi Gabbard and maybe explains why she was able to jump so easily from Democrat, from Republican . There was There was a lot of advice she was given on how to refer to what was going on in Syria. One of Tulsa Gabrin's personal email accounts got a directive from someone in SIF saying to do must tweet around nine AM with a link to a video and a pre written tweet and it's something that Tulsi Gabbard specifically tweeted in twenty fourteen. Ad roba pleamase, show Aloha to Kobani Kurds, Need Air Strikes, Heavy Weapons, Mahalo, must see video. So they were like really running her social media and approving language for her to say on TV and tweet. So I do think that's what's new about this is like we didn't really know the extent yeah , it was always sort of clear like okay, so this cult that she grew up in is influences her sort of positions and her politics and she avoids certain topics because of it , but like there's so much evidence in this of that yeah, that the actual relationship, not just sort of like, oh, influenced by it over the years and kind of like in that realm, but no, like literally like, yeah, do this, do this, say this. Yeah, influence isn't quite the right word directed. Yes, yeah. You know, I forget what the example it was, perhaps it was with Syria . They say, I think it's time that Tulsi has this idea to propose , you know , and it's like it's time for Tulsi to have this idea specifically. Yeah, the language is makes it frames it as though it's just she's just a plant for this fucking cult. Like literally just like, oh yeah you should run for office and then be our representative from the cult and we'll tell you what to do. Like that is what the relationship seems to be or have to have been because she resigned. But and it's really for the idea of influence and power. It's cult stuff. Like there wasn't really a consistent ideology as far as I can tell from the cult and they did a lot of things like she would get heavily criticized in emails for not representing herself well . She got an email from one of Butler's aides that said, Don't forget to smile, et cetera. Don't do the eye thing. And then the next day she was on CNN and opening her eyes I guess particularly wide while speaking. And then the next day there was another email that went to someone else saying, Well, from what I saw, she's doing the fucking I thing thing again. So they were like really very persnickety about how she was presenting herself on TV. It's pretty wild. You want to see like Peter Tiel's emails about JD , you know, right like J saessew someone talking like that. You got to stop saying fundamentally so much, man. Like with a fucking order of fucking donut dumpies of shit. I don't feel bad for Tulsi Gabbard because she's in this administration, director of national intelligence, total scum, but like she's been manipulated her entire life by these people. Dad , she grew up in the cult. Like that's, you know, it's hard to crack out of that. I know she officially resigned after right after she arrested Fauci for good. Right after she presented all that evidence finally that Fauci said created COVID created because of function. Created COVID and then that he created it is what it is . It's very funny because the video because she's like, I'm out, but first evidence , but the post is just a video of her like doing like a vlog type thing and sort of saying the accusation without evidence. Yeah. There are links to documents that don't support that Fafci created COVID, but whatever. Trump's first director of National intelligence in this term was always doomed to fail because that person would be unable to arrest Obama and Fauci for the supposed the made up crimes. So you know , Pulty in his interim status can, I guess fire or try to do those things . And is sycophantic enough to Trump like over the top so that he might survive a while longer . You know you, know. And this has to, you know, over a year . And there's not the tension of her, like him being in a I mean, he's in a cult because he's in the cult of Trump, but like not a there's not two cults kind of like at odds with each other . I assume, you know, you're like, you're supposed to be in my cult. I'm the president. But you have this other secret cult that's telling you to do this, whereas he, you know, he's more free to do whatever. He can arrest Obama , he can just sort of show Trump AI videos of Obama being arrested to kind of keep him going for a little bit might be enough . Just keep showing him a video like look, this is what the people want and tomorrow we'll get him tomorrow. They'll do the opening shot of Sunset Boulevard except instead of William Holden, it's Obama face down in the reflecting pool. And oh, it's a you know, he'll be like, That's great. Let's do that. Let's make that happen. That one, I like that. Why isn't it happened yet? Because it's fakes her. 'Cause it's all made up from a movie. It's an old movie. I'm sure you've seen it. This had to be on her radar reporting that would come out and maybe maybe there's something with the timing of her exit . Maybe. Maybe there's something with the timing of her exit. We don't know. I mean, there's articles going back to twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. I think the New Yorker had one like, who's controlling Tulsa Gabbard or something like that? Who's talking for or what does Colsy Gabbard believe? Yeah, it's always been weird. It's always been a weird question. Yeah. And so like, we know he's been linked to group, this guy for a long time, but I do think seeing the documents, seeing the specific word for word like directives. Yeah, maybe they knew that was and how those directives actually manifested in the world and like, oh, you can actually look at the timeline and see like, oh yeah, she tweeted that. Oh yeah, she did the fucking eye thing again or whatever. In my mind, I can't help but go , who else is being controlled by powers that be? And like a lot of, we already mentioned JD Vance. I mean, yeah, by money, we expect that by money and power, but what's this? And like, you know, like their like general religious beliefs , not, you know, this kind, you know, like, okay, we all have influences in sort of, you know, ideologies or spirituality, whatever. But she was a director of national ellig Iencent. That is f ucked up . What a what a mess. How could you like why that shouldn't shouldn't have been in that position? All the national intelligence apparatus. They probably don't know much more than we do. If people like this are in there and it's not like getting out, like as soon as you get in that job, you're like, okay, what are the secrets? What are the things? Okay, there aren't aliens. We don't know anything else about the JFK thing. Okay , like what else is there? And I would say that is like, oh maybe this administration just doesn't care, but this has been happening a very long time. Makes you makes you question all of her decisions and everything she tried to do that that little phone call when they took those ballots . 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He's responsible for all this vitriol and all this hate because they said that Mitt Romney was an evil racist who was going to enslave everyone again. If you aren't a weird conservative online, you might be thinking back and not remembering that I'll read from one blue check guy specifically. His bio says heritage American, so you got that. Write, Joe Biden went in front of a crowd of black people and told them that Mitt Romney was going to put them back in chains. You people have been lying and slandering Republicans for as long as I've been alive. What that person is referring to is during the twenty twelve campaign , Joe Biden was talking to a crowd in Virginia . Here's the quote. We've got a real clear picture of what they all value. Every Republicans voted for it. Look at what they value and look at their budget and what they're proposing. Romney wants to let the he said in the first hundred days he's going, to let the big banks once again write their own rules unchain wall street. They're going to put y'all back in chains . Now , he shouldn't have said he shouldn't have said they're going to put y'all back in chains. But to say that this quote in context is what's responsible for like Trump It's absurd. One note about this particular account, they bring this up all the time . And other accounts do it too. It's the one thing they have to prove that it's all Obama's fault. But it wasn't Obama. It wasn't even Obama. And here's one like little key thing about this is that the next day Biden was like, Oh, you know, here's what I meant . Moving on . Like that the idea that saying something like that and then kind of like clarifying yourself the next day and then moving on is what is like the justification for Donald Trump being the greasiest piece of shit in the world and like never apologizing for anything and being just a cruel oaf is absurd . Also this account like,, I mean , other examples of literally this same account making this point. Over I've noticed this over months. You guys called this kind innocent Mormon Neocon, a literal rapist slaving Nazi that would put black people back in chains, another tweet. Obama literally ran on Mitt Romney will put black people back in chains and other stuff. But like one thing also, this particular account, I'm pretty sure all these people who say this are either like conservative operatives who like need something to say to prove like well it's because of Obama said it. Also many of, them are like twenty two . So they were eight when this like they don't they don't remember. They've been inundated with all these liars lying about this stuff. And so to them, that's just what happened and that's reality when all it is based off of this one quote one time . But it's not hing's based off of anything. They're just trying to find manufacture a reason , manufacture evidence of their argument. When at the end of the day, the division that Obama caused in terms of what they're talking about . They don't have to pretend like Obama was some perfect president that's infallible , but he's black . He's a black man. And everybody lost their minds or half the country lost their minds screaming from the rooftop about how he's not a citizen and you know, all sorts of racist bullshit . And is actually what they mean that Obama brought this by daring to be black. And I do think that this, yes, the library it opened and it was a big to do this weekend and it pissed them off . A lot of the quotes were talking about how decent Obama is and how he would the unity and how he would never, you know, they didn't name Trump directly , but creating a contrast between what we all remember to be true is the very different approach to politics that the Obama administration had versus shit . So they're just bringing out their pitchforks and, you know, trying their best to make him look like a specific kind of monster when he really was a different one. Yeah. Obama was also hyper aware that he had to be so above board and so respectable and had to be squeaky, clean , not thinking that, of course, they would find stuff anyway, like not just tan suit, all kinds of stuff. And so they've retconned what it was actually like to try and make it the LIB's fault for everything that's happened , which they think is bad or good. It's unclear. But yes , but so not just the ret conning with oh the way they painted Mitt Romney as this evil racist instead of just painting him as an out of touch rich guy, which is what he was, but also the idea that when he said Trayvon Martin, if I had a son, it could it would look like he would look like Trayvon Martin the greatest sin. Yeah, they're pretending that that is the thing that drove them all to Trump. The unforgivable Obama sin of saying that that drove everyone to be as racist as they could be a few years later. Odious, odious people, yeah. Those are the two things. It is what Biden said once and then clarified the next day and Obama pointing out accurately like yeah thir,ty five years ago that could have been me. He looks like me. That is just a fact and that to them was like, oh, so you're saying we're all fucking racist or something . And it is interesting. You pointed to this a little earlier, like they're saying like no he said this and he did this and he called everybody Nazis and rapists which isn't true. And that's why we're awful pieces of shit now which we think good or bad. Like it's not it's justification for behavior that they're admitting is terrible but also saying it's okay . They're making the same argument that we make about gerrymandering . L lookike we, have no choice in order to keep any semblance of balance of power in this country. We have to do the shitty thing that you're doing. And they're saying that that's what they're doing about being racist pieces of shit because of Obama saying a thing once and trying to get through to white America, like this is how black parents have to talk to their black, teenage children. It's just very telling that it's always Travon Martin comment . Put y'all back in chains . Therefore , because of those two things over the span of eight years , we're going to be awful twenty times a day for the rest of your life . It's just very, very childish and stupid. Also , we did mention the library and I just wanted to say maybe a hot take. I think it looks cool . I like it . I like the building. I like how it looks and I'm sorry everybody thinks it's ugly, but I don't know, it's kind of neat. Yeah, I have a new appreciation for brutalism after watching the brutalist . So you're running out of closet space. The good news, you don't need to stop shopping. You just need to start selling with the real . The Real Real is the world's largest and most trusted resource for authenticated luxury resale. Whether it's that mini bag that can't even fit your phone or those boots you never fully broke in, the real handles everything from photography and copywriting to shipping and pricing. So you can just sit back, get paid and make room for things that actually feel like you. 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That's the real dot com terms apply . Which doesn't really talk about not to really here's the history of architecture, but I was like, I get it. Yeah, get it now. Looks pretty good. Speaking of how everything is the Obama's fault and how we all hate them and our behavior now for the rest of our lives is going to be based on our resentment for the Obamas. The reflecting pool isn't doing so great after we ripped out a bunch of stuff and then painted over it and then filled it up and then added more stuff and then it got worse and now it's peeling off and everyone's getting threatened with like ten years prison time for putting their hand in a pool They spent so much money fixing the pool and it was immediately bad , immediately filled with algae again and then seen you know them pouring hydrogen peroxide in along the edges as if that's going to do anything. And now the paint is peeling off of the pool . And people keep getting arrested. They're trying to say that it's happening because of vandalism. When we all know what it it's why's happening. Because of vanalism . And also , can we just throw the picture up on screen, one of them of the guy that got the contract? Because he is a cartoon villain. He is a cartoon villain. It is shocking . And people are being generous by sharing an old photo of him instead of the newer photo of him. Like this is this AI an AI fabrication of the oil barren tycoon type guy that I don't know. He's just a cartoon character. He's very silly looking. And I don't mean to appear in shame, but look these guys. Well Katie, I'm going to let you off the hook on us talking about it a lot because it's not us that's talking about it too much. No one would have even known anything was going on with the reflecting pool if he could shut the hell up about it for five seconds. I mean, he can barely get through a post threatening Iran on his social media site. Then he goes on a three hundred word scsreed about the reflecting pool and about how nothing happens in the reflecting pool is his fault and nobody cared about the stupid pool until he started bringing it up. And so now it's funny and hypocritical that he's like, I'm the perfect builder . And of course, it turns green again within a few days. I wonder, can I read a quote from one of the guys who was arrested? I can you sure can. So a three time U. S. Olympian , David Herr , who represented the U. S. in canoeing told ABC News, he's on a bike ride and he stops at the reflecting pool he says as a quote curious concerned citizen. Who wouldn't stop there? Hey, let's see what's going on with this thing. That's been the top story in America for a month. By like presidential decree, he's like, no, this is our story actually . I've been told I have to care about this, so I'm stopping to check out the pool that's supposedly the best pool and longer than things are tall . That we spent fourteen million dollars renovating . Right. So he says I saw a piece of this loose end of this blue coating. I reached out and touched the end of that piece. That was loose, but still attached to the bottom . He says he didn't remove, damage, or destroy anything . Said he had no idea he was about to be arrested and was And was approached by national guardsmen and they said, Yes, US Park police want to speak with you, sir. It's so stupid. Obviously, like good luck to that guy and good luck to everybody being threatened with jail time for looking at a reflecting pool . They had more on sandwich guy than they do. Yeah , but like I've always I've seen so many like you know, the Matt Van Swalls of the world just be like there,'s the media is spending so much time with reflecting pool instead of like this or this or this. And it's like, dude, he had a chart made to show how long the pool was . He didn't even build the pool. It's just an old fucking pool tallest buildings. It's just an old fucking pool that he like moved into Jay and Forest Gump ran through it famously and the paint like I don't we don't need to harp on any of this stuff because again it's silly and it shouldn't matter but he, made it matter. Everybody said, don't paint it. Everyone was like, well, don't paint it. We don't need to paint it. It's like don't we don't need American flag blue or whatever to like pretend like the pool is brighter. It's just this constant metaphor we're going to rip out the thing that I'm resentful for and I'm going to literally paint over it to pretend like everything is fine

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