Theories on the Disappearance of Le Prince

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Talk to your doctor. callall one eight hundred five four five five nine sevven nine or visit zbound. liily d. com Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of IHart Radio Hello and happappy Friday, I'm Holly Fry. and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We talked about the catacombbs of Rome this week. Yeah. This is one where I felt almost a little guilty because there's so much scholarship about it. Giving a brief overview, I feel like I'm leaving so much stuff out But there was one particular Reent development that was pretty interesting to me That isn't really germane to the catacombs as an entity themselves. It's a thing that references the catacombs. So in nineteen sixty five There was a meeting or A mass Depending on which source you read. Held in the catacombs of Domata. Mh. There were forty bishops there. They were in Rome for the secondecond Vatican Council And they have this meeting there to discuss The way clergy and particularly the bishops were living And their lifestyle and its lack of alignment with the people that they were pledged to serve. Sure So this resulted in a document which is called the Pact of the catacombs where These bishops committed to live their lives as average man basically like renouncing their life of privilege holding no land, like any land that any of them had, they were supposed to sign over to the church. They, you know, were're not supposed to wear fancy vestims even. like keep everybody keep it keepeep it cool. Let's stay basic and make it about And religious promise and not about all of the benefits that being connected to the Vatican gives us It's a really lovely sentiment Hmm It got a lot of sort of groundswell support. L eventually it started with those forty bishops and eventually I think five hundred bishops signed it thenen it just kind of faded in the back T Wf then in twenty twenty two Pope Francis was like Hey, you guys remember this, which fits if you know anything about, you know, his papacy and the way he went about it. And he actually had another mass there at the Basilica to kind of recommit people to it It's really interesting because NPR did a piece about it I think it was NPR where they had interviewed people like historians within the Vatican and stuff. and they were kind of like, wow Some of the reason that it fell out of favor is not necessarily what you think Like it's not necessarily like it's hard to give up fancy stuff as In the time nineteen sixty five, they were a little worried that if they suddenly renounced everything and we're like, we are going to live as simple common men that people would be like Are you communist know stuff? Yeah its popularity waned pretty quickly. But it's interesting and I like that it has been reintroduced in recent years as something to consider, you know, for anybody. I mean, listen Nobody needs a billion dollars Nobody needs a billion dollars. I mean, it's very funny because the Vatican is one of the wealthiest entities on the planet I mean, I wonder all the time because youll if you look up valuations of the Vatican's holdings, like it's almost impossible, right? Nobody really knows right everything. And some of it is just like logistically, it's impossible. It's not even necessarily that things are being withheld. It's that there are things like catacombs that technically They are in charge of, but they can't get in there to know what's in there. likeike there are Yeah. when you have an entity that is so many centuries old, there's just stuff that's hidden. I'm suddenly reminded of a completely unrelated thing from back when I was working in cataloging in a university library when there was like a very specific and very rare book that I think one of our professors wanted from a library in London And we were like, it's in your catalog. like what do we need to do to make this work like where he can get access or you can even ship it and you know, insured and will. And they were like, here's the problem. It's here But we don't know where Be it predates the bombings during World War two. A lot of things in our catalog are not really accessible, but we keep them in the catalog for the sake of the record. And I was like, that's fascinating. And so this is a similar thing in many cases, right? There's stuff that's there buried, probably Something I really liked about this episode In school We mostly learned about Rome in the context of ancient Rome M Ancient Rome. Paganism right? like early or like the story of early origins of democracy. that's a It's a whole separate thing but like ye That's sort of how it was taught su me and K through twelve school And then Visiting Rome. the one time that I've been there The amount of Christianity is inescapable. Oh yeah. It's just like just everywhere And so I had never really thought about this window of time Like the transitional period between Roman paganism and Christianity becoming the official religion of the Roman Empire. likeike I knew about conceptually about persecutions and all of that. But I had not really thought about that process and also thought about the fact that there were also Jewish people there.. Like that just it just was a thing that had not really solidified in my mind. and then this story laid it all out Yeah Yeah, and it is it's surprisingly quick when you think about it. right that it goes from Hey You got to get out because we don't like that you're proselytizing to, you know Uh two hundred and change years later going. by the way Everybody's cool with like that last gasp of we hate Christians to everybody worship whatever you want. It's fine. It's fine, It's fine. Also whatever deity is the real one, be cool with us. And then it's only it's less than seventy years after that that they're like, by the way, Christianity official religion Yeah Yeah very fast fascinating. Like could you imagine? I mean, I think some of this is because of, you know, where it is on the timeline of recorded history. But could you imagine I'm trying to think if there's an example of a country today that changes its official religion in less than a century. like from, you know hyper intensive persecution to No, that's actually our religion. It's interesting in that regard Yeah, and you don't, I mean, it makes sense when you think about it trying to kind of apply our knowledge of how Hans live and work and tend to congregate in the metropolises that are seats of power that there would be like other diverse people moving in. But but we don't we don't get it in school as and also there were right Christians and Jewish people living there And they all had to figure out how to make this work. Yeah. and they had to and it didn't always work. and they had to figure out, you know, how to handle day to day things like burying the dead. it's just interesting to me And so different from France where it's like, Uh, spaghettios, we got a lot of dead people. We got to do something it That that was a whole different thing. So completely different that I I was ready for it to be less different than. I didn't realize they went all the way back to. L the first century Yeah Fascinating Fascinating On my list, although I am slightly claustrophobic. I managed okay in the catacombs in Paris Because once you're down that spiral staircase going down was not my friend But once you're down there, it's so cool that like the The fear parts of my brain took a hike. Yeah remember when you were down there, like your expression was just like utterly transfixed we were down there. So into it. And the thing is, the catacombs in Rome are much bigger. Like when you're in the catacombs in Paris It's close. You're There's not a lot of headroom. There's this literally has like vaulted ceilings in some sections. In some cases, you know, it's multi stories So I think it would probably feel less claustrophobic. So we'll find out. when I go to Rome next, I don't know when that is But we're gonna make it happen one way or another. Yeah. because I gott to see this. I had to pull myself out of museums long enough to go do another thing. This episode was also fun in how illustrative it is of the ways it's come up recently on the show before, so it may just be top of mind for me right now. But how illustrative it is of the ways that people will make logic jumps about things they're observing that don't really hold water But They say reasonable, so people pick them up and run with them Yeah That's just fascinating to me. Oh go, this is how misinformation. perpetuates itself throughout years and years and years as we try to sort out what's going on historically. And this is an instance where there is enough recognition of the importance of both the Jewish and the Christian catacombs There is a lot of scholarly interest in them. So who knows if we'll get more information as time goes on. It's also everything kind of, you know, modern that's written about it too always does that kind of like Hey BT Dubs, there could be more we haven't figured out yet. like there's the high possibility that there are even more that we just haven't haven't identified or uncovered because there's, you know They kind of like Ran, you know, Rome had its kind of spokes of roads out of the city and a lot of them ran kind of a lot parallel to some of those roads like because people needed to be able to access them Yeah. And so there are places where people are like, no one's found one here yet. there very well could be one, but then you would have to initiate dig and get permission because we know, you know, the Italian government is very careful about what they do and do not give permits for. I mean even from their their art as well as their history. so that's part of why it. Yeah. why will probably take a minute, but I bet we'll find more in our lifetimes. They're going to come up on Earth. I guarantee it sometime. Yeah I like how I just made a guarantee I can't substantiate in any kind of way other than vibes But it was fascinating to me I don't know why I love caticombs so much. I just do. They're cool Living with a rare autoimmune condition can bring a lot of uncertainty, but it can also bring people together in powerful ways. Tune in for season six of Untold stories Life withith a severe Autoimmune condition, a Ruby Studio production in partartnership with Argenics. This season, host Martine Hackett brings you fresh stories from people living with MG and CIDP and expands the conversation to people living with other rare conditions like myositis and IGA Through their stories, you'll learn what it's like to participate in clinical trials seeking new treatments, how connection fuels hope, and how people can support one another along the way. Because living with a rare disease isn't about getting through it, it's about moving forward together. 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O cool things that I wanted to mention is that the exposition that Louis LaPrince went to with the Whitley Foundry when he first started working for them in the eighteen sixties was like one of those historical Nexus points where a bunch of cool stuff is going on in one place. whichich happens with expositions anyway, right? That's where a lot of interesting things are happening. but That was also the one where electricity was first showcased. W. It is the exppo that Jules Verne attended and was so inspired by what he saw there that he went home and wrote twenty thousand leaks under the sea.. There were just a lot of people there that we now think of as like standard parts of history There he was. I just find that cool I wish that's another use for the time machine. We can go to expose that we and just walk around. We mentioned only briefly, but it has its own interesting history and could potentially maybe be an episode at some point The Morris Jumail Mansion Oh yeah, that I pronounced wrong and you had to correct me and I had to do it over again. I had to look it up because I wasn't sure. So But it's really interesting. It is the oldest home in New York It was built in seventeen sixty five At least the oldest standing, I'm not sure if it's the oldest if it was the first one, but it's historic and really interesting George Washington used it as one of his sort of meeting places it during the Revolutionary War has always been rumored to be haunted. It's been, you know, and apparently people tried to scare Lizzie off of it with that. like don't Don't buy that house. It's scared. She's like, I don't care. We're gonna fix it up and make it cool, which is sad because her husband never got to see all of her efforts in making this amazing home for him. And like where they were gonna essentially host people and show them his cool inv inventions. L they really thought they were on the precipice of changing the world in some ways I do love how close they were and their partnership, like their their letters to one another are like the relationship everyone wants, right? They seem like best friends He doesn't ever treat her like she is not his equal Like he asks her opinion, he trusts her intelligence They're just it's very sweet Yeah, I love it. Here is one my favorite thing I learned while researching this episode Okay It's it's not about Louis L Prince It's about Louis D Guerre. Okay So we know I'm sure we've mentioned it before on the show that he was given The French Legion of Honor. She apparently wore that medal Everywhere That's funny Like for the rest of his life after he received it, you would just see him out walking in the village with his fununny And that is not a small metedal. It's a big cross it's very charming to me. But then I got to thinking about it. At first I was like, you silly thing. And then I was like, you know what be a better way to handle it than putting it in a drawer or in a display case and only ever, you know, occasionally looking at it He it was his day to day jewelry I'm kind of reminded of that time that we ran a race at Disney and then walked around with our medals on. You had more medals than me because you ran much more than me. And they went clank, clank, clank, clank clank clankank clank. But yeah, we just walked around. everyverybody just walks around with their medals on