Amy Redpath's Poetry and Final Thoughts

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Talk to your doctor. callall one eight hundred five four five five nine sevven nine or visit zbound. liily d. com Hppy Saturday On june thirteenth, nineteen oh one or one hundred twenty five years ago today Two members of the Red Path family of Montreal, Canada were killed in their homes Our episode on this incident is today's Saturday Classic It will quickly become obvious that this was one of our Halloween episodes when it originally aired. It came out on october thirty first, twenty twenty two Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of IiHart Radio. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly Fry. and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. Hey, we're doing some Canadian history. but it's also Halloween. So that means this one is a little bit on the darker side. This one is a murder mystery sort of. We know what happened and who was involved, but the details of what led to everything happening the way it did are a little fuzzy and there are a lot of things that have been seems like systematically erased from the historical record. So this one remains a mystery. Heads up. We do want to let you know this episode involves a lot of discussion of domestic violence incidents that involves guns. It also involves speculation in the press about the mental health of those involved But this is about what's often called the Red Path murders On june thirteenth, nineteen oh one, Ada Maria Redpath, who was fifty nine and her son Jocelyn Clifford, aged twenty six were found shot to death in their home, which was known as the Red Path Mansion we're going to talk about that in the behind the scenes. But more than one hundred and twenty years later, what exactly happened to lead to those deaths remains unknown. We know how they died, but why is probably something we're never going to understand. So We want to tell their story, But first we're going to start by talking about Ada's life and the lives of two of her children who are closest to this strange tragedy Ada Maria Mills was born april twenty sixth, eighteen forty two into a well off family Her father, John Easton Mills was a well known and successful businessman He died when Ada was still a small child He was, I believe the mayor of Montreal when he died. He had only held that post for, I think less than a year at the time, but that's kind of illustrative of how How well known and how prominent he was Ada married John James Redpath in Putney, England when she was twenty five Because she was from a well law family, Ada and John had a marriage contract that reads kind of like a modern prenup It stated that she would retain total control of her own wealth and assets It's often referred to as wording being. as though she had never married. So like literally completely siloed off away from her husband's money. She would later insist that her daughter would have the same financial autonomy should she ever choose to marry John James Redpath was himself from a wealthy family. His father, John Redpath, Sr, had moved to Canada from Scotland in the early nineteenth century and made a fortune in construction And he used that fortune to purchase more than two hundred acres of land on Mount Royal just northwest of Montreal He subdivided this land and resold a lot of it and his other wealthy families purchased the land and built on it This established a really wealthy neighborhood that came to be known as the Square mile Over the next hundred years, the community of the square mile neighborhood became more and more intertwined. A lot of families became linked through various marriages amongst themselves U yeah, and all of those families also kind of made a lot of business deals with each other. So their wealth kind of kept folding in on itself and they Like I said, it became this little enclave When John and Ada married, John was working in the Red Path family's sugar reffinery. He had been a partner in the firm at that point for several years But he didn't stay in that industry for a very long time after the marriage though, and he actually left it to join the Victoria Rifles. That's a volunteer military regiment based in Montreal that had formed in eighteen sixty two That seems like sort of a good indication that John really did not have to worry about income Ada and John had five children over the course of eight years starting in eighteen sixty eight. They were Amy, Peter, John, Reginald, Harold and. Jolyn Clifford, who went by Clifford Ada had been the one to purchase the family home at ten sixty five Sherbrook Street West in the square mile She did that with her family money in eighteen seventy. We'll talk about a halouse a bit more on Friday Yeah, there's a little bit of confusion about which house was the house. And I wr to doing research. Looking for a picture to put on our social media for this, I started to look at a lot of incredibly similar looking houses from right on that same street. Yeah, this is also a problem where there's more than one house called the Red Path Mansion in this area. So at some point in her life though, Ada began having a variety of health problems This is a little bit tricky because the specific nature of those issues is hard to pin down She was treated for a lot of different things, both physical and psychological, including trigeminal neuralgia melancholy and joint pain Any readings that the family wrote about her generally describe her in ways that kind of characterize her as just being frail or fragile by the time she was in her forties. It also seems like she was away from her home and her children a lot for treatments for these various problems In an undated letter that she sent the family from New York while she was being fitted for braces for her joint problems, she wrote, quote, My dear children Doarchers say that it would be much better if I could remain until Monday They want me to get quite accustomed to my new brace before I leave And find out all its faults so that they can send me home in good order and comfortable for they do not want me to have to come back here very, very soon You see, there is no one in Montreal who can alter the brace and change it if it should hurt me and it is better that I should stay here until they have made it fit well It has hurt me dreadfully, but every day they make some little change and tonight it is more comfortable. Although not quite right yet, and I cannot walk at all yet without my crutches It stretches my leg so much that it makes it an inch longer than the well leg. And doctors say that I must let them put a thick three quarter inch sole on the boot of my well foot they do this, poor Harold will think me more of a giant than ever But never mind, if only they will let me go home, I will be willing to wear anything they please. And bless you, my darlings, will be so glad to see your mother that you won't stop to find fault with her looks. God bless you, my precious children, your loving mother After Ada's husband, John James Redpath died on june fourth, eighteen eighty four Ada relied increasingly on her children, particularly her only daughter, who was also her oldest child, that was Amy and her youngest son, Clifford. Amy was born on may sixteenth, eighteen sixty eight, the year after Ada and John were married The Red Paths lived abroad during their early marriage, so Amy was born in Europe and then arrived in Canada when she was still a small child From an early age, Amy was deeply devoted to her family, although we don't really know if this was just her natural tendency or If it was because she knew the expectation was that she would need to help with running the house and caring for her younger siblings was really routinely expected of unmarried daughters at the time that they would fill a role of that nature within their family. and Amy had never expressed any obvious interest in marriage or even mentioned any suitors in her writing growing up. Horse leds of various Cculations. Yeahah, we'll talk about some of those on Friday as well Jocelyn Clifford Redpath was born on november seventeenth, eighteen seventy six, and although his sister Amy was only eight, she was one of his sponsors slash godparents at his baptism. Clifford, who also went by Cliff, studied at McGill University, and he joined the laaw program there in eighteen ninety seven. Once he started studying law, he also started apprenticing at the law firm of Campbell, Meredith, Allen and Haig. And he was on track for a law career when he graduated in nineteen hundred and started to study for the bar exam. By the end of the eighteen hundreds, only Amy and Clifford were still at home with Ada and they took care of her Amy ran the house and Clifford managed the finances with advice from his older brothers and uncles To be clear, while they were their mother's primary companions, they weren't managing her care alone. There was also a full house staff who Amy hired and managed, including a nurse But they were put in the position of being the heads of the household Ada would travel to upstate New York in the summers to spend time in specialty clinics or health resorts, and Clifford usually traveled with her On one occasion in eighteen ninety eight, when Ada was traveling with her older son, Peter, instead of Clifford, she was so Flinky with Amy at the train station She was set to leave that Amy decided she had to go with their mother as well evenven though she did not have any luggage or travel gear with her. Yeah, she wrote in a letter to, I believe it was a cousin about like I'm going to Saratoga Springs and I don't even have gloves. She just was like I have nothing. Amy and Clifford were also very close and they spent a lot of time together even when it was not necessitated by their household duties or responsibilities. So they would attend social gatherings and church together. They often took long walks together And Amy helped Cliff with his law studies. She would even rewrite the notes that he had taken during lectures so that they would be easier for him to study when he was studying for the bar. Basically like she was writing study guides for him. Clifford was also very, very close with their mother. In a letter to Clifford in eighteen ninety eight Ada's attachment to her youngest son is apparent. She wrote, quote, Dearest, O how I miss you, I have come so to depend on you that I am lost without you Nothing seems worthwhile without you, your most loving old mother Though she was still only in her late fifties, by nineteen oh one when the shooting took place, Ada's health had declined to the point that she spent her time almost exclusively in her bedroom. And she had stopped attending even family events Cliff, on the other hand, seemed to have a life that was just on the precipice of real success In early June of nineteen oh one, there were discussions at the law firm where he'd apprenticed about making him a partner once he passed the bar And that never happened We are going to talk about how the tragedy in the Red Path homeome unfolded, but first we will pause for a sponsor break. Living with a rare autoimmune condition can bring a lot of uncertainty, but it can also bring people together in powerful ways. Tune in for seeason six of Untold Stories, Life with a severe autoimmune condition, a Ruby Studio production in partnership with Arenics. 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And that is often how it's reported But to me, that wording tends to convey this sense of distance, like the house had been empty except for them or that they had been dead for some period of time before being found or that there could be questions about if someone else had been in the house, none of that was the case. It was absolutely not They had been discovered immediately because there were plenty of other people in the house When the shots were fired, those people heard the shots and they went to investigate right away That sort of hazy and confusing sense of them being discovered later started immediately in the press The Calgary Herald ran a brief notice about the deaths that read in partart quote, misss. John J. Redpath of Sherbrook Street, a widow lady and her son twenty five were found dying in their house in Mrs. Redpath's room late in the night Bllet wounds in the heads The son is in the hospital, unable to make a statement The mother died within an hour without making a statement All of this actually happened around six PM. so the late in the night atement No Really correct No, there's a lot of incorrect stuff as we'll discuss. As we said, there were other people home. The oldest of the Red Path's sons, Peter was there. He heard the gunfire and he ran right to the sound, which was, as we've said in his mother's room There were also members of the house staff in the home who also went to the room Ada did die on the scene. S reports say she died instantly. others make it sound like she may have died a few minutes after being found Clifford was still alive, although unconscious, and he was reportedly taken to the Royal Victoria Hospital He died that night at eleven or eleven fifteen or maybe eleven fifty, maybe shortly after midnight, depending on what account you read Incidentally, he was never registered in hospital records as having been admitted to the Royal Victoria or to any other hospital This is one of just a lot of S inconsistencies and gaps in the information about the shooting that have scratching their heads for more than a century As soon as this tragedy hit the news, there were rumors about what had really happened in the Red Path home. And there were a lot of factors that fueled the spread of those rumors. For one, the Red Paths were very, very wealthy. They were from a largely insular community of similarly wealthy families. People naturally had tendency to want to speculate But for another, the sheer shock of a tragedy like this just led people to speculate about it There were really three very significant contributing factors One, there was little investigation into the shootings Two, the family was largely unwilling to discuss the matter publicly. Now on the one hand, this is totally understandable. Who would want to talk about the sudden murder suicide of two family members while grieving and likely in shock But because no one from the house was saying very much, their quiet started to be framed as possibly covering something up And three, the details kept changing from report to report One idea was that Ada had a mental break that was brought on by ongoing insomnia and that somehow led to the shooting This is the narrative that came up in news reports immediately after the tragedy. The Sherbrick Daily record of Montreal printed the following on june fourteenth. quuote, a very sad affair occurred last evening. For some months, Mrs. JJ Redpath had been a confirmed invalid, one of the characteristics of Hality being prolonged insomnia About six o'clock, the household heard an explosion and hurrying to her room found both misss. Redpath and her son, mister Clifford Redpath seriously wounded by revolver shot. Mrses. Redpath died in a short time. Her son was removed in an unconscious condition to the Royal Victoria Hospital where he expired about midnight Neither could give any account of what had happened A write up in the weeekly news advertiser of Vancouver, British Columbia, offered similar speculation, offering, quote, no details of the tragedy are known Mrs. Redpath had been ill for some time suffering from insomnia The surmrise is that while temporarily mentally deranged, Mrs. Redpath attempted to end her life and in attempting to prevent her, her son was shot. The unfortunate lady then completed her undertaking But the Ottawa citizen had a different take. Yes, Ada was having issues with mental health because of insomnia, but she wasn't dangerous because of it Their write up states, quote, Wh was responsible for the tragedy is yet a mystery For some years, mres. Redpath has suffered greatly from insomnia to such an extent that her mind was affected Dr. Rodick had been in constant attendance upon her, but it was not imagined that her condition was at all likely to result in violence to herself. or the members of her family account from the Quebec Daily Mercury seems to state as fact, the idea that Clifford murdered his mother and then himself in a drunken rage, quote It has transpired in connection with the Red Path tragedy that Clifford Redpath shot his mother and then put two bullets in his own head They had been quarreling for some time and young Redpath is said to have been under the influence of liquor at the time of the tragedy The young man was a law student actual findings of the coroner's inquest were different from all of these theories. And it happened very quickly as in the day after the shooting is when the inquest was held And the coroner's jury was made up of members of wealthy families from the small square mile community. There were John Dunns Jr., H. Browning, Lansing Lewis ECB Fanshaw, George Tde, Bartlet McCennon, Francis McLennon, John Walker, W. Maurice, John Savage, WW Watson Charles Estdley and Herbert Wallace The Halifax Morning Herald reported, quote, invvestigation by the coroner's jury today put a new light on the Red Path tragedy of yesterday. The evidence showed that Mrs. Redpath had been shot twice once in the back of the head and then a second time in the right shoulder while the bullet had entered Young Redpath's head to the right of the left temple The jury brought in a verdict that the young man had killed his mother in a fit of temporary insanity, brought on by an epileptic fit. and then taken his own life The first story given out by the family that the shooting had probably been done by the mother was due to the fact that the young man was still alive I feel like we should just note that a lot of the language being used to discuss things like epilepsy and mental illness completely outdated very outdated and offensive by today's standards. so like just don't go repeating it in casual conversation This also brings into focus one detail that changed repeatedly about all this, although initial accounts from multiple sources stated that there were two shots There was one account in a paper that Clifford had shot himself twice And then this account which said that he had shot his mother twice That would be three shots total. So that's just another aspect of all this that was inconsistent Now, subsequent testimonies, and we're going to get to those in a moment Do support that three shots number It seems like some papers may have run on the assumption that it was just too in their haste to get the news to print. As I said, we're reading these news reports that are happening like day of. But that is also the kind of detail that you might think would surely show up in a police report. Of course it would Hey, there isn't one because there was no police investigation The coroner's jury was assembled there at the home, but there was never a police presence. They were never called Now how the coroner ended up there, but the police didn't is a little unclear, although it is most likely that someone from the house staff or the family called the coroner at McMahon through some sort of personal connection The Weekly newews advertiser of Montreal even noted in an article about the shooting, quote The family refuseed any information and the police only heard of the matter by accident The family have issued a statement, but from it, nothing can be learned of the details of the tragedy beyond the fact that two people are dead We'll get into the details of those witness testimonies to try to unravel this thing a bit after we first pause to hear from the sponsors that keep the show going Living with a rare autoimmune condition can bring a lot of uncertainty, but it can also bring people together in powerful ways. Tune in for seeason six of Untold stories, Life withith a severe autoimmune condition, a Ruby Studio production in partnership with Argenics. This season, host Martine Hackett brings you fresh stories from people living with MG and CIDP and expands the conversation to people living with other rare conditions, like myositis and IGAN Through their stories, you'll learn what it's like to participate in clinical trials seeking new treatments, how connection fuels hope, and how people can support one another along the way. Because living with a rare disease isn't about getting through it, it's about moving forward together. Listen to Untold stories, life with a severe autoimmune condition on the IiHart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Yesess who's back in the house The Old Gays returned for season two of Silver Linings, their hit podcast from Iheart's Ruby Studio in partnership with Vve Healthcare. Just wait until you hear what hosts Robert, McBill, and Jessse have in store this time around. They stret back down memory lane, navigating life Love, loss, and everything that shaped them along the way. And as usual, someone just might break into song. From leather bars to bathhouses, dance floors to drag brunch, nothing stays off limits. These are the kinds of insights that can only come from experience. So listen to your elders, honey, and discover the silver linings you can take with you All Sass, zero filter, and decades of perspective from four friends, proving that queer joy only gets better with age on the podcast that never gets old. Listen to Silver Linings available on the iHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts Alrighty, there is excited and then there is vacation excited. and we are vacation excited right now because we have a trip planned to Baha Mar in Nassau. To be honest, I'm kind of mentally already checked in and I have a beautiful drink in my hand What I love about this is that you can do it your way. There are three luxury hotels all in one place, the Reined Rosewood, the playlfully hip SLS, or the stylish Grand Hyatt. no matter what your vibe is, if it's relaxed, if it's glam, if it's kind of somewhere in between, you're covered. and then there is everything else. This is like an embarrassment of options. There are more than forty five restaurants, bars and lounges Incredible chefs, incredible drinks. I'm going to be all over that. There is a lot of great nightlife that you can get into like the John Baptiste Jazz Club, which I am also very excited about. If you are a family going to visit, there's a fifteen acre water park and what I am also excited about shark and sea turtle encounters, bring them on and don't even get me started about the daily Flamingo parade