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Hooray This is Talk nineties T me, where we take on a weird cQ style music monthly, give it a kick up the Bit pops, reinvent it into a cross between Sash hits and the mind of Jarvis Cocker, and invent the best music magazine of the nineties. In between, we do features on ecstasy, the shaman, piercing, groupies turned Glterbury into a popastic poster event for everyone who went and everyone who didn't, before moving on to other magazines and eventually taking on podcasting. My name is Miranda Sawer and this week I am very glad to welcome my friend and also boss, Andrew Harrison, head H show of podmasters who make this podcast and more importantly, editor of Select Magazine in the nineteen nineties And it is, select that we are here to talk about. Hello Andrew. Hello, Miranda Sayer. How are you? Where's your copy? Where's your copy? It's late? I've sent you to interview the breeders. Where is it? It's so true. I was always late. It was A certain points you were actually sending people around to my house to knock knock on the door because copy had to be submitted in paper form and then typed in by Kate It would just go, Ohh God, it's late again, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. sorry about that. I'm still late. That's just how I am. Okay, look I have brought some Select copies in, obviously which we can talk about, but I would like to talk about the very beginning of Select because before you kind of got your hands on it, it was started by a magazine company called United Consumer Magazines in july nineteen ninety. and the idea behind it was it was going to be arival to Q magazine, which was owned by Email Metro Q magazine was started by Mark Ellen and Dave Hepworth in nineteen eighty six So This seelect magazine landed and I remember actually buying it, the cover Oh my God, The cover was just awful. The cover star was Prince, which was like him and it was Prince looking to the left. He was topless, holding a guitar. and it wasn't actually him, it was a look alike. Prince lookuckyikey. so Mad. And do you know what the name of the look alike I'? I don't actually. His name was Gonner Bahish from Acton. Okay. Okay, so there he was, right line was Prince, The Royal scam, fanfares, fantasies and phonies. And of course, there wasn't an interview with Prince either. It was a very weird thing. Then there was also Jeff Healley, who I don't even know who that is, Banking on Success, S Express Lust for Life, House of Love, Lou Reid and Shanade O'Connor. Ver weird. It was a funny one. I mean, I started working. I was still a student when it came out and I had a few things in those first issues And you know I was very grateful to them for taking a punt on me, Tony Stewart was the editor. And I actually found a post it note that he' sent to me while I was still a student. it said said Andrew Fuck University, let's rock and roll He was trying to go stop at university and go and work on se like that Brilliant Yeah, yeah. so I owe him a lot. He was a great old school journo. He'd written the report on David Bowie turning up at Victoria Station and doing the Hitler salutute. so he knew his stuff. The thing is they were in a funny position because Ky had swn up all the good writers and they could there was a handful of people from sounds like the brilliant Dave Cavanary we might talk about a bit later. He was a genius Well they didn't have K would basically booked up all the good writers. so they were stuck, having to put an advert in the media Gardian say, Can you write? Can you spell? Do you like rock and roll? Do you want a job? So that was me. So that got me through the door Isn't that amazing the media Guardian, That's how I got my jobash on Sashes. Liters will not believe it. Well every Monday there used to be a pullout in the Gardian about the media full of jobs full of jobs with actually quite good money, ridiculous. unbelievable. Anyway, that first issue also had two things which I think are important It had a thing that said fifty pages of the latest music film and video releases. So it's basically like in a massive review section and a free tape And the tape featured House of Love, James, Yellow, Electro one hundred and one, the Walker Bothers, the humummingbirds, Ruby Blue, the liac T time. Hoay Yeah. Dusty Springfield, weird. Tom Villane the Fall and Cameo. such a weird It was weird, but I think they' done a deal with one label. I think it was Fontana or whatever. And actually that tape iss quite good. I've still got it lying around way. it's almost like the kind of home tape you'd make for your mates The problem with Early Select was it was definitely trying to be a cQ me too. because all the publishers who had weekly inkies like the anime and Sounds and Mlody maker They were getting spanked by Q, which was a perfect bound, high quality magazine all based off the CD boom as well. So they were getting spanked. Why? I mean, because people then weren't buying the weeklies. Yeah, well, it was for an older audience. The CD boom had by the way, these are in the days when the older audience was thirty six years old, R I know, imagine peopleople rebuying their collections on CD at a halt at a vast vast you know uptake was flooding the music business with money. and they were flooding that money back into Q magazine for full page adverts to get you latest to rebasted dast straight CD meate That kind of thing. So everybody else wanted in on the action, understandably because the Weklies were kind of they were already starting to show signs of fading away Yeah, the original select mob they were a great bunch of people, but it was not different. It was a bit pepssy. and they were doing their utmost to try and do a really good magazine. There's a lot of good stuff in there, but it was never going to win against kid. No, it really wasn't. although what's weird about it is like we were you know we're being a bit sniffy about it at the beginning. It sold a hundred thousand copies. Andays in those days, that was considered to be a bit of a mediocre set I remember we once got select up to one hundred thousand copies. it wass like, Well done, youve got your little magazine up to a moderately respectable figure. Now people would give their legs to sell sixty thousand copies. It's so mad. Anyway, if you did want of this first issue, you can buy it on eBay. I found two prices. One is five pounds forty four. Yes, and the other one is fifty two pounds seventy . All right. bit weird. Anyway, they had all these covers. they had some terrible covers, I have to say. One was a silhouette of a Ravers. was pictures of people, I'll just tell you they are. Frank from the Pixes, Alie Campbell from UB forortty. I wrote that story. John Bon Jovy, an MC Hammer. But this it wasn't coherent. It wasn't for a particular person. The Q was for a particular person. Mark Ellen, the editor, described the Q guy as a guy called Miles who's got great taste in music I But irrespective, there was a market there, right? And it was loads of guys with loads of money rebying their youth on CD. And poor old original Select didn't have a reader in mind. It was just general music for general people. and it was hard to kind of connect to. Yeah, exactly. just I mean, you know, obviously as a music person, I had to look at and I just thought, this is not for me, I don't know who it's for. It's kind of rubbish anyway, It didn't do very well. in april ninety one, it was sold to EMAapP. And so at the time, I just want to say so EMAap is a publishing company and it had smash hits, dress seventeen, M, Q and Empire. So good. It was like old things schoolool of Scienceces magazines. It was the nineteen seventy seven Liverpool FC of with all the best talent. because you're aan united fan, you'll hate that. You're going to say it was the Ferguson's United, whatever I'm not agreeing. It' relev to the nineties. Anyway. So it was, you know, it started off and the covers were still a bit weird at the beginning. so the covers were things like Soul to soul, the Beatles Ly alsoso the Beatles, not with real Ringo because it was a stand in ringo. and it was an interesting, interesting story. And that actually Fast forward stand in Ringo. It was from a film shoot and Ringo had he'd missed the plane or he was injured or something. But interestingly enough Only six or seven years later, Mojo magazine is cleaning up by doing the Beatles every month. They were kind of ahead of the curve though. Yeah, exactly. It was coherent. No, not at all. And then like D Pest mode, happay Mondays, Guns and Roses Dream Warriors Yeah. eryd What's your face in my sink? Boy George and Matt Johnson from thether, You know, it's so weird. anyway. all over the place. So then Mark Ellen, when it's sold to Ema, Mark Ellen comes in as kind of top want to hear a story about that.. So we were told, you've been bought by the owners of Q, which is like being told you've been bought by the enemy. you've been bought by the rivals and we were just a lot of the stuff were in tears and heartbroken. We were put on a coach and sent to this new office in the middle of hobing or something like that,'s like you're going to meet your new bs it's going to be great they're wonderful And we're in there. I'm like fre being bought by the the man magazine, the man is And I was literally stamping on the copy of Q magazine when Mark Ellen, my new boss, came in, I said, Hi guys, great. What's going on?ump, you're stamping on a copy of Q magazine. Brilliant. you probably hate it. Brilliant. He should have fired me there and then as an example to the others, but he didn't. No And I'm grateful to him for that. Mark is an absolutely brilliant editor because what he is is obviously has been indicated there Completely enthusiastic at all time. He loves everything. He loves everything. He looked obviously a little bit like Paul McCartney. He just was Yeah, an incredibly enthusiastic person and very interested in talent. Thumbs aloft. It was thumbs alft. He was abolutely He' excited by Betty Boo as he was by Neil Young. Exactly. that was part of the same thing And what happened then? So basically he comes in He at the time, David Kavanagh was the deputy editor and what Mark did, which is completely correct, although I think might have hurt Dave's feelings was he said, you're not an editor, you're a writer. And he was a genius writer. And he was an absolute genius writer. That was the correct move. Shall I tell you how you could tell Dave was not necessarily an editor? He was the reviews editor and used to get sent records on cassettes. review preview copies on Cassette. And Dave had literally built a wall around his desk of cassettte, like a big Lego wall in kind a little kind of cocoon to keep the outside world away from him It's not editing. Somebody came in and knocked over by mistake he were absolutely berserk. Yeah Bucking yet. Nobody said to him Have you ever thought about not building a gigantic pink flloyid world around yourself? Yeah. Literally and figuratively, Dave Anyway. So then, but what he did do is he started making you into an editor because obviously, you're a great writer, but it takes some it takes something else to be an editor. And what is that thing? You need to be a megalomaniac. N I'm a megomaniac, and I'm happy I had through a psychological test at a place where I worked one and said they came me and said, you're a megalomiaac. I Yeahah, that'sair. So it I'm not lying. This is going to sound terrible. but I'm not lying. The first day I went into the select office for the very first issue I thought to myself, I can edit this magazine. I'm going to edit this magazine. I know what to do with it. It need It needs to stop being like general for random person in our price buying records at random. It needs to be for people like me and my mates who have a specific music taste are going to be, although I didn't know at the time. They're going to be the people who make brick pop happen. They're also going to be the people who make the massive rave explosion happen because we were all simultaneously listening to No, and the Walker Bothers, we were listening to, you know, banging fluffy b, you know house music and the Smiths at the same time. And that was the thing that glued it all together. You liked everything within that kind of framework of those kind of people. Not you liked everything that was in our price, but there was a particular world that made sense. New Ader fans New Oder fans, Yeah because that absolutely unites iniverted commom with spotty students. Yes. and Drogooligs. Yes, Drogonkeys and football, Hilligans. Yeah. So that's good. I mean, I also think, yes, you are obviously a meegalomania. you've had the test. but there is sometimes when you if you're very lucky, you walk into an environment you think I know what to do. Yeah. I understand this environment. This is for me And now I'm going to do it. And that's what happened. I honestly felt like and again, it's going to sound terrible When Mark gave me the job because I look at, they tried a couple of other people it weren't quite right. And he took me for a pint in Some pub on B Street or whatever just around the corner from Carneie Street. and he said, I've got some good news here, you're going to be the editor of the magazine. And I genuinely felt and I'm not exaggerating here, I feelel like this is why God put me on this earth. I felt like I felt like I'd been handed Thor's hammer I felt like I'd been bitten by the radioactive spider And brilli I loved it so much. Yeah, it was great. you were really great. Okay. so you became editor What was your first cover the Blur cover in october ninety one? No, that was Mark. So Mark was on the case. Mark wasn't just like, let's fill this to the little old guys. was on he put blur on the front. Yeah, and he put so that's a great cover. I just wanted to describe it. So basically it's Damon's face with the flower around his head. Yeah like actually that combination of what you're talking about is a's like a kind of rave roach blur And it's pre Bit pop blur. It's when they are basically pink Floyd pop. they are they're basically they're doing CMLE players pop songs. They haven't yet discovered. they haven't got their Fred Perries in their monkey boot song yet. Modern life is not yet rubbish. And I think that's part of my m liking because's like, yeah, this is a bit like the Floydent before the Floyd did twenty eight minute long boring songs. It's really funny because there's a review of leisure in that issue by David Kavangh Get how many stars it guess I would say two. Okay, we' put it out the way It really made laugh out like that's really not a star album alb. I think they was probably giving it five stars for intent idea. Okay so you become the editor. What was your first cover? can you remember? I can't remember actually. I mean, I think might at a fairly lean time. We had to put carto and a stopel sex machine on the cover twice in one year. I wrote one of those for. Yeah, yeah I think it might have been the wonder stuff. This is all pre Bit pop stuff. Gbo. Yeah, it was Gribo. what think an odd thing was happening, which is that Baggy Inpiral carpets, happy Mondays, had all peetered out. The Stone Roses had disappeared. In fact, we did one little small piece where we demonstrated that it took longer for the Stone Roses to make their second album than it took to start and win the Second World War And as I pointed out and also the Stone Rise alum cause more human misery. But It was a lean period, an excitingly lean period.. But it was good for like me and also the little team that we'd assembled, which included you and people like Adam Higgin, Bothham and Clark Collis and various other of people. because it made and also great people we inherited like Andy Perry Wonderful Andy Perry has just passed away. We loved a lot. It was an absolute genius. but it made us get good at doing magazines. So when the main event, the two main events arrived, which were Nevana and Bit pop. We had kind of honed our skills and we could get our teeth into it. Yeah, that's very true. What did you do then? So I agree with you that essentially seelector was operating in a kind of in a a music time that was a bit in fllux. Yeah. And how did you manage that and what did you want to put in the magazine to manage it? For me, it was like I read it as a student, I used to read The enemy every week, smash hits every two weeks and queue every month, right And I wanted this magazine to be as fun, colorful, exciting, funny and stupid as smash hits As on the ball as the Nemy, but not as kind of up its own bum, really. The enemy was really very proud of itself. and But I want it to be as well written as Q because Q what stunned me was goodid was like, they're doing actual proper journalism here. They're investigating, they're telling the story, they're backing it up. They They're not just sitting down and say, Hey, you know, as what happened happened with the enemy in the As, you'd, you know, you'd sit down with Danny Monogue and ask her what she thought about Thatcher And the answer was Not a lot. And y magazine turns up and says we're not going to do ideological explorations and you discuss situationationalism and deconstructivism with Danny Minogue. We're going to tell the stories of these bands. And I thought that was incredible. And I devoured all these magazines. So what I really wanted to do was a magazine that amalgamated all those things. but basically what it boiled down to was It was a smash hits of Indie Pop and Rve ' Smash is one of the greatest achievements of the English language to my mind. I completely agree. And one of the things that was very different, if you wrote, so obviously I came via Sash is. And the difference between those magazines and say the inkys is you were literally not allowed to use the word I. I wasn't allowed to use the word I. and Mark Ellen would that out of you and what that does is basically mean that you focus on the reader rather than you. So you're trying to give something really entertaining the enemy was full of people writing about themselves. Some of them were very interesting and great fun like Stephen Wellld and Stu Coney. Id actually hit that he didn't really write about himself too much, but some of them just wanted to crap on about themselves and their own political and art ideas. it was you know I'm reading an interview with Madness and I'm not finding out anything about madness. Exactly, and that just doesn't really work. So there was a point, I suppose where things chang I've got like an issue that obviously epitomizes this. But there's a point So basically you're making this magazine. you've got writers that you really like, you're making them go in depth on things that maybe people aren't going in depth on like Cartter the Unstoppable sex machine. And you've got great posters in the middle. You've got a really in depth kind of review section at the back. You've got lots of jokes, you have cartoons, you have funny columnists. There's a lot of work going into it. One of the things that I thought was really interesting because I've got loads Copies of select at home, which I found, which is really unusual for me. and like it's in the hellscape that is my study. and I found it and they are there's so much work in them. I can't tell you this they're absolutely packed because obviously they have to last a month and you really could get a lot out of them. Yeah. Also, I mean, obviously it's existing in an environment where no internet there's no internet Conventional media is barely touching pop culture anyway. I think when Kirk Cobain shot himself, it was like a page three story with a little col. That's what changed that's what changed broadsheets and tabloids broadsheets in particular is basically when Kirk Cobain died, They were absolutely overwhelmed by the fact how big a story it was and they had no one to cover it. That's how come I got a job on the observer. Do you want to hear the story about when Cobin killed himself So We were very nearly going to press, I forget what was going to go on the cover I was it was the night I'd gone to see Primal sccream at the Brixton Academy. With Sona from Echo Belly. That was a glamorous lifestyle. day. Well, it was just r. just chums and pals going out to see Prima scream. And the it's going around the room that Kurt Cobain has shot himself, Kurt Cobain shot himself. I get home the next day. I come home and send a messageer on the anser phone and Kurt Cobain has killed himself I met Danny Kelly, the editor of Q Magazine on the Monday morning And it was like What are we going to do? We've got to be different put out the same magazine. We're both doing the same story Danny went with a kind of screaming picture of Kurirt Cobain. the couple timons where Kirt Coban had to die And it was like very much from the point of view of this is the terrible music your kids like, right? You don't like this music. You like the Beatles and Neil Y. This is the gringy druggy music that your kids like We went and Simon Vin, picture edit was brilliant guy, hammered the phones Again, no internet to get those incredible pictures of the vigil in Seattle. you know loads and loads of people And what we went on, the grief of it and the fact that this is your guy who's killed himself. And our cover line was like I hate myself and I want to die. And we went with a lovely black and white picture of the kt that you're going to miss and Completely correct. Yeah, you absolutely correct. It was like, it was Princess Diana for all life. Yeah. It was a life defining changing thing studies. come together on a Windows eleven PC. And for a limited time, college students get of both worlds. Get the unreal college deal, everything you need to study and play with select Windows eleven PC's. elligible students get a year of Microsoft three hundred sixty five premium, and a year of Xbox GamePass ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller. Learn more at windows dot com slash student offer. Lawupplies last ends june thirtieth, turnerms at aka dot m slash college PC This summer, serve up the cookout cllassics, Oscar Meyer Hot doogs and Heinz mustard. Grill up a dog, add classic yellow mustard, or load it Chicago style. 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What do you As if you list at home Yeah Well, I mean, if you're watching on video, you can see this beautiful cover. Yeah. So it's Swadee. It is Brett from Suede and the cover on is Yanks G go homeome, Suadee, St. Eetienne, Denim, Pulp, the Os and the Battle for Britain. Ne, no oasis., no blurke because blur we're on the cover the week. just done Bur. Yeah. Also very important six ree massive exclusive fly posters, RM, the Rervoir dogs film poster Sued, the stereo MCs shaman and Sugar rightpe Now This is april nineteen ninety three when this incredible magazine cost you one pound seventy five p. right? We were giving it away So the idea of Brett in front of the union Jack, this is the this is the contentious say thing. Brett is in front of the union Jack This was Andrew Collins's idea, actually. he was the fech editor. and it was kind of his pitch for the job actually, when he came because there'd been a kind of a mass exodus from the NMA. They'd got a new editor which nobody liked. and they'd all left on a fit of Hy dudge and come work forers. You're good writers. can And I think by this time we'd earned a bit of admiration for a lot of these guys. So Andrew had come on board and they said P Brett on the cover with the Union jack. people the enemy were enraed. Stephven Wells wrote a column said you're basically encouraging Wing fascism all the rest of it. I've had people tell me this is the reason Brexit happened. I was going to say They were only joking. They didn't really mean it. Yeah is you ca Nigel Farage? I invented Nigel Farraage.ret from Suadee, Nigel Farraage, the same thing. Suadee were furious. had a good understand was basically you had you took the photograph and then the Union flag was dropped in Yes, it's superposed in the background. They didn't know till it came out You still love that kind of thing in the days of the magazines They've since forgiven me Theyre they're still Andrew, what did you do that for? Well I think it makes a fair point, which is basically, you know every a handful of people in the kind of music were mad that you've used youion Jackie Within two years, Nel Gallgher's running around with the Union Jack Gitar and everybody saying how brilliant it is. OasSis is are swathing themselves in Jerry Hllys and Jerry H Jackro As with all things, it's a signifier and it can mean different things at different times. I don't think, for instance, if this magazine is going now, I don't think we do it now because of the associations. But a large part of this feature was about why can't we pull this stuff away from horrible people. alsoso at the time, you know, the kind of racist Billy Briton thing was at a very low eb, right? In fact, we thought foolishly that we'd defeated it forever. We thought it had gone forever. we thought we'd beaten it You know, howon how naive that looks now. But the other thing that really wound people up was we got a fantastic illustration done for the opening spread by a guy called Michael Gillette, who also did illustrations for Eastica and for Sainzian. And it was the it was the start of Dad's army withran's point to go arrow with the arrows The headline was, whoo do you think you are kiding Mis Cobain? He hadn't shot himself yet Just to make sure we hadn't he was not dead. He wasn't dead at this point. There are Kurt Cobain's stories, I may tell you shortly. so we basically covered all these bands that we thought fit the aesthetic of a new kind of music that was generated among our readers by people who are like our readers, like Javis, like Sain SN like Lawrence from Denhim, who'd created this insane kind of seventies bubble gum pop thing called Denhim. We were brilliant and' still brilliant. And Luke Kainnes and the Ous and you know the idea that We were we we were heartily sick of grrunge. becausecause Nevana, yes, great. And in fact, brought to the magazine by Andy Perry, who was basically battering on my desk while I was I kind of add a touchun. Maybe we should do something on the inspiral carp as. he's going, Navana. The people want destruction. The people want noise it was absolutely correct, but there were an awful lot of quite bad grrunge b. Navvana and this hole and the rest of them honestly can knob off. Well, yeah, as you know Big rock, not my thing. but So we were really sick we were sick of the PladFad. We were not down with the PlDFad in the words of Collapsed Lung, the fantastic Rp band who who remembers them. And we wanted something more colorful. I think At one point we were calling them crrimplolinism Be that wasn't yeah, that was a thing around especially around pulp. Yeah. becausecause if you if you bought charity shop clothes because you were skinsing it on the doll, which people wear, you know, this is still a hangover in Aies If if your aesthetic went back to Scott Walker, you know, as I just mentioned, you know, if it went back to John Barry and the soundtracks at the sixties, if it went back to that look that feel, if it went back to the specialism and Madness, if it went back to old Scar and Regae, this was a really rich cultural thing and also it wasn't just music, it was film and it was Ty, it was Get Carter It was space nineteen ninety nine, it was Ed Lory It was sorry? Mike Lee? It was Mikeel Lee. Yeah, I mean, obviously meantime and you know Nuts in May absolutely colossal. It was Reeves and Mortimer as well. Yeah. And we I don listeners may remember that Reeves and Mortimer characters Mulligan and O'Hare, the folks singers. My roos has left me. She's gone to Kenya with a bloke from ourad carpets. We had a pull out section in the middle of they were posters, but we pretended they were art photos to make it feel a bit more. It was called images referred to in the officers image because it made it sound classier. But it's basically everybody two smash its poster instead of just putting The Wonder stuff and Jesus Jones and Hoall and the breeders. we would spice it up by putting in people like Brian Clough or we put it or William Shatner and you can see his twope very clearly And the center spread posted the double page foldout, which was pre the prime location where you were supposed to put the biggest band of the time. We put Mulligan and O'Hare from Bick Reeees as a poster. and the readers loved it. And the publishher was like, what the hell are you doing? This is stupid. like, No, the readers want this. You are more excited by Mulligan and O'Hare. than you are by name identate Bit pop bandy aren't quite as good as pulp, right? And I remember to Glastonbury once. and saying In order so that people could find their car, they would put things on sticks or put things in the window. Sobody had put our Brian Cluff poster in the window of their car and achievement unlock. we have achieved what we needed. Okay, let's talk about the Glassonbury coverage. O then. So I've got another edition of the Mag here. Try this one. Yes. This one's got Jesus Jones on the cover, and it's got Glonbury, a sixteen page full sensury overload So what is interesting about Glassombury? Well Glastonby is obviously an institution now, it's covered by the BBC. We all know, blah, blah, blah, know, it would be great to tickets. you never tickets et ceta, etera etera. But at the time, it had just turned, and I would say the early nineties was when it turned from something that seemed like a hippie festival for most people, to most northerners, I would say, it seemed like a hippie festival for a load of weird southerners And then it changed around, I went like eighty nine, I think, and there was like the cure New order, people like that. And it started changing. And it wasn't until the BBC didn't cover it until ' ninety three, first Channel four did the first one. Channel fourorded did the first two and This approach in channel, which is very similar to the approach from Select was This is amazing. Not only does it have bands, it has all these absolute nutters that we don't normally see. And this is a whole city full of delights that we can enjoy for a weekend. And that's what the kind of pullouts were about. Well, I can tell this Vanda, this is where I invented Glastonbury Did you say you were a Megalomania? Yes, this is where selected invented Glastonriry because I've been a couple of times and failed to get in, which is very pathetic. I should have been able to like bunk over the fence. Yes, you should. I'm a shit scouser. I' no Wh are you from? actually I'm actually a middle classed scouser I feel bad about doing things like that. But eventually eventually got in and it was so terrible and mudy and awful that we only lasted for six hours, went home and then rode the car off outside my mum's house veryery poor behavior But nineteen ninety two it was like, I'm going to do it properly this time. By the way, it just had a year off because in nineteen ninety, the happay Mondays fans, your lot had rioted and burnt all the ice cream. That was a great year. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Manchester. Yeah It was Anyway. so they tightened it all up and made it a bit you know a bit less insane. So in nineteen ninety said as a lover of Glastonby I hadd seen in the NMA, the way they covered it was was like four pages with a postage stamp sizeed picture of Paul Weller with a microphone in front of his face. and the copy would all be like amazing tight set from Yunadur. and good to see that you know red Lorry, yellow Lorry didn't neglect to bring the hits. It was fucking boring, right? And we knew that when you went, you were going experience the greatest psychedelic experience with or without drugs that any human being can ever experience. And then you pick up the enemy and it looks like a wet Wednesday in Bogner, right Yeah. So we thought we were going to do it properly. What is our strong suit? C of photographs? What can we do to make it come alive? We can just get out there and say all the crazy business What Glastby was like then? It's not like now, where everybody's got a mental picture of what it's like. Back then it was like a strange pocket universe and people would come back. It was like going to the First World War. People would come back like, you can't believe what's going on. I have to tell you, it's beyond human belief People would come back changed. Absolutely. I remember coming back, you would come back and you'd look at your front door and think Why is that? You come out and you go, Well, and I still think this. Glastonby is the real world. everyverywhere else is the fake.ight Glastonbury is reality. People would it was, I mean, genuinely a life changing experience. So it was like, we got all of our photographers who just said, like shoot the shit out of it, take us, go out and take us minute. Don't bother getting a picture of, Hang on a minute. Let me just consult who was on Gall there getting a picture of the Frank and Walters playing live, even though they were quite good but they quite like them. Don't bother trying to see What Oh, it's Carter again. Don't bother, you know It'd be the shaman we're on in systemstem seven. Well it's all great stuff. But what's more important that you should have a load of naked hippies in a pile of mud, a man dressed as an ostrich, a seven foot tall cyber robot The stone circle But also just sunburn beautiful people having a really beautiful time. And we brought it back and we put it together very, very quickly. Yeah We had to like turn it around. You know, those will be thirty six hour shifts By the way, me driving a van back full of idiots back from Glastonbury to then go straight to the office and do work. I don't think that's health and safety, to be honest with you, was stretching things I do know that Danny Kelly marched into the NME office when we came out and shooked it on the table and said, what are we doing? Look at this. And it's what we wanted to do. was like show it for what it really is and the aerial photograph Its ninet' podast so I can be victorious and say that was my idea. It was my ide. It's like, this is it's a city. It's a whole new city. Why do' we get a camera up in the air somehow, phhotograph it, do it as a poster and people can try and find their tent. And how did you get a camera up in the air given that there were no drones? Initially we tied it to a boon and just cranked it up in the air But then in the following few years, Mick Hudson, the late Mick Hudson, RIP, a genuine madman go up in a helicopter And just and we didn't even ask them first time. We just set the helicopter off. Glastenbury, not happy as I recall, thenen we started to get permission. But Mick would like hang out of the helicopter like it was Vietnam, holding his camera, just shooting like crazy. getting these amazing pictures and you can see your tent. and I used to drive a white Volkswagen beetle. that had an orb sticker in the window. And I could see because in those days if you had a press bus, you could park behind the pyramid stage and I would sleep in this Volkswagen beetle and I could see my little the rave snail, My white Volkswagen beetle behind the pyramid stage. Okay, Andrew, like speaking of somebody who worked for you at the time, I think that that is the issue where you sent me to interview the leveners Sorry about that. And the Lllers were going to be the cover.. And I got sent to interview the levelllers. Bear in mind, I just wanted to go to Gluttonbury and have a nice time and I had to work. And I went to interview the Lvellers. The Lvellers did not want to be interviewed. In fact, they ran away from me. Did you say it suits me? And I had to get everything done I think by the Saturday and then go home early and write it up Yeah And so that yeah, they ran away from me. I felt it was very weird. It was it was a bit like suddenly I wasn't really used to this situation, but I was absolutely the person that they did not want around their campfire Yeah. You know, I would to tell there was Mark I remember. I can't remember the name the people in the level list, but they all ran away from me across the field. And I remember getting quite cross about this because I had to write the cover story and saying to their manager or their PR going, lookook, I've got to write this story and I don't want to hang out with them anymore than they want to hang out with me. So what are we going to do? And I picked them off individually and then wrote the story and we didn't put them on the cover What's more interesting? The levels under the cover or Glasterbiss sixteen page full sensory overload Mike from Jesus Jones saying it will be mine I' being very colorful and an inset Dirty something dodging the plod with the rave convoy, whichich when you get inside, it's about spiral tribe. Heres sppiral tribe. And this picture of our Stuart at a rave, my brother Stuart with a stupid haircut at a rave in front of Canary Wolf. So you know, Siral tribe very important. We're very good. Yeah. Okay. I have a couple of issues that I wanted you to talk about, right When would you say that was Selelect's imperial period after basically after the Sede cover? Yeah for I mean, two or three years. It was for a couple of years, it was Michel Man until I left. which I got a job in America. They offered me a job in the back of Select. And we basically got the full run of Brit pop which by the way, I should emphasize coincided with an imperial period for Big dance music. Yeah. This is the time when Obital will played Glastonbury and I remember dragging a load of people from the magazine. Come and see this band. C and see this ban.y four nineteen ninety four. it has been Absolutely accredited as one of the greatest gigs of all time, evenven though all the machines went wrong, was still incredible. forty thousand people screaming and going biz to this battering electronic music, left field they're getting big. AX twwind is huge.. et getting the early rumbling of the Chemical B brothers. Yeah, all this kind of stuff. And also one thing that we did did, I'm very, very happy that we did. The cover mounted tapes mentioned the tapes, it used to be you would go and do a deal with one label and they'd say you can have five good bands and you've got to have seven shit ones that we're trying to push. And we sort of tore that up and we did two different things. We went to lots of labels and said, give us one band you want we want and you can have one band that you want subject to our approval. So it meant it felt more like a proper mix tape. So We did one that had,, it had prrimal scream on it and it had one dove on it and all that kind of thing. And it felt just much more like our real proper choice of music I love compiling those tapes. But the one I'm really proud of is we got Justin Robertson, the DJ to do eight Journeys by DJ Mix. and Journeys by DJ was the big DJ mix brand at the time. They're really, really good, Tim Fielding My mate Anna they worked for the Mag, they sort of helped to put these things together. And the journeys by DJ Tape took us into the world of rave, right? So for a lot of people it was like there Not their first introduction. Gateway drug. It was a gateway drug. yeah. And just in it's still online. We'll put a link in the show notes. you can listen to it. It's just a brilliant, brilliant mix so we kind of the imperial period involved bringing in not just four Ladsword guitars of which Oasis were an important part, but not the only thing. It was. tricky left field, typicalers Cyprus hell You know, and all loads of all the weird, you know, sort of like, you know, hip hop things that, you know, like D Lnche mob and all this kind of stuff. It was really, really rich the kind of imperial period kind of ludicrous culmination included The time when we'd been promised an Oasis cover for their ninety five Glastonby thing I am the re get getting put off and put off and put off because the Oasis phenomenon had exploded. And it got to the point where it was like two days before we were going to press and the interview hadn't happened. And I'd told I got, I think it's Steve Rb was the designer, then went on to design Load it. said to do the cover put some col lines on it will change it when the interview comes in Two days before we were supposed to do it, I got a call from the PI. he's like, They're not into it, man, they don't wantan to do it. And I said, We've done the cover. They, I don't know, man, they're not going to do it.. I actually said to him. L, Johny If they don't do it, I'm going to make it up and put it in any wayight because it's because the cover has gone to press. I lied. and it was like, I'll see what I can do. So eventually, I think it might have been Andy Perry got to interview Noel at Glastonbury We got the picture of Noel with his arm around You know, Evis and some randoms And it actually was a really lovely little thing, but the cover that we'd done, we'd take remember his stripey shirt that he was wearing roundab I think Ranabout some might say it was just before Morning Glory came out. So we took that picture, and we replaced the stripes with, you know real floral psychedelic colors really amp the whole thing up And obviously it's sold like noobbody's business because everything always is sold like nobody's business,. I was thinking like, I could strong arm Oasis into doing something. Oh my gos.ania. Oh my gosh y Johny Hopkins press he was mortified that the were messing us about and he sorted it out. Yeah. Well well, done Johnny will you, Johny. Okay, look. You mentioned the tapes. I think feel like we should also mention I've got one here for example, they're free giveaways. So I have an inflatable Liam Gallgher here. Yeah the camera. Cheavy as home? Yes. Th's great. I'm showing it to the camera. He looks fabulous. There is also an inflatable Keith Flinton and an inflatable Jarvis Ccker. I have looked up the prices of these now online. Andrean and I'm going to tell you what they are They are for eBay. You can get Liam These are around fifty quid. that's not bad. All right, you can get Jarvis one hundred and four pounds. Case It's one hundred and forty four pounds. My Godd. Yeah, I know. Well these were this was just after I left. Yeahly. Th was the brain the inflatable Liam Jarvis and Keith Anna Hyde, who was the kind of commercial manager and is still am mate of ours, she put these together and it was for a special edition that did we put in a Cflx box, right yeah, I remember that? It was a Corflexbx. that was my idea because the Beasties had done it with Grand Royal They put Grand Roe magazine out in a complex box with like kind of cheap know, weitoos or something on the front What I think they'd only done about a thousand copies, then I'm like, we can do this with a print run of one hundred thousand. Why not Anna, being genius, went, Yeahah, and we can get onto loads of brands, he'll just give us little samples of different kinds of crisps or you know knickknacks and just put it in there. So and it came out after I'd left because it was sort of, you know, I'd moved on to this other job the magazine in a Cflex box comes out with inflatable Javvis' Javi and it's a bit of a hit. But what I loved about that was managed When the magazine had been kind of rescued by EMap and be it was like, this is going to be Junior CQ. It's going to be the same the bands are going to be slowly boring. But I don't think I mean Q could be boring sometimes. Yes, it could. but it wasn't always boring. It was a really good magazine, but we managed to sort of take it off into its own direction. and when Mojo launched Mojo you know, was a very radical thing at the time. The idea that you could apply proper journalism to you know, the past Arthur Lee or whatever. But Paul Denoyer, who was the launch editor of Mojo was a fantastically successful magazine. We offer pipe ones and he said I often feel like Mojo's got more in common with select than he does with Q. HQ was ultimately about success Who's the top of the chart? I'll give you clue it'sec outut of Simply read. Who? No shade on Me O of Simply read but it wasn't the counter culture. Who's the top of the chart? It's Terce Trent Darb Again, no shade, but it's not the counterculture and select Mojo with the counterculture. They are and this is what youre hear in misfits by Pulp Where the outsiders and were going to take it over right Yeah. That's what was that was what Bit pop, the best of Bit pop I'm quite glad that I left in nineteen ninety five before Brit popin,es, because it very rapidly turned from we are the outsiders breaking in to where're inside now we're putting the drawbridge up again. Yeah, that's very true. Okay. lookook, I have some other magazines that I want you to quickly talk through. One of which is this cover here Which is you did this particular primal screen right. Okay, this is a great cover. It's black and white and it has Bobby Gillespie looking absolutely like absolutely fantastic. I have to say he's got mirrored ray bands on like as in aviators. and Klen Nog's looking hot as like you can't believe with she's got her hair slightly curly, she's got a leopard print kind of littleittle top on. they look brilliant and it's and her cover line has come together the Sx Kylie Primal screen Loin. This was your feature What happened, Andrew? Oh, what a funny day that was. So the scream The scream this is june nineteen ninety two. So the scream are quite colossal. They're still riding the whole sccream and Dellica thing having united looking like the Rolling Stones with taking rave drugs. and it's very, very popular thought I can't remember his idea it was but we thought good idea it would be to get Contemporary Soresbag Rolling Stones together with the contemporary most beautiful woman in the world. Yeah and see what happens. So we negotiated this at G B length. It took ages and ages. And by the way, everyone just remembered, the night before it was due to happen in some hotel in Kensingston PR rang up and said the scream don't want to do it. What? I the screamed don't want to do. don't want to on. Yeah. And I sat on the phone with Johny, same guy Por old Johnny wasing to bring bad news and said, lookook, I sat on the phone with him for like forty five minutes to explain why they had to do it, why it would be legendary, why they would look incredible. It would say such a good thing about them. I think they were worried it might make them look a bit pop and a bit crappy But of course not. It's Klie. It's Kylie. It's better than meetaking the queen They wouldn't even own much I wouldn't want to meet the quQueen. So anyway, we get them into this probleble screen headed up in this hotel room Plus en Sourage Mm You can picture what the Prive scream E entourage is like. I know what the Private sccreamutely like. So it basically looks like somebody has thrown contents of a local benefits claim office into Keith Richards's laundry bag, shakaking it all up and then emptied it out into a hotel room. Everybody has absolutely walloped. It's about ele o'clock in the morning. They've been up for likeays. They've been up there. They don't know what a bed is, a part of them shagging. That's the only thing they know what a bed is for And it's like, it's gulls, it's Gay He's having an amazing time and Bobby's love place. And Kylie, and you might think that Kylie would be like, o my gosh, who are these rock and roll reprobates mates? Yeah, You know? No, no, Kylie was absolutely unfazed by any of this. She'd been Michael Hutchin' She'd seen things Primal Stream couldn't even imagine right She's been around the block and back Anyway, we got astonishing photographs out of it. we got the story is just ludicrous. I think I think the scream were actually rather overawed by Kylie. They were desperate not to look uncooled in front of Kylie. Karlie was lovely, Of course. It was you an Apark pro. And what's the headline for the feature on the inside? Karlie's Australian? Oh I don't know, you said. Sheila Delica Come on It has to be Bobby's wearing a hysteric Angel's T shirt. Kylie is just honestly come on, this makes the stones in Anita Palenberg look like You know, your momum and dad on a wet weekend in Crosby This episode is brought to you by Fox One Watch all one hundred and four matches of the FIFA World Cup live in four K for just nineteen do ninety nine cents a month, with three days free Build your own multi view, choose up to three streams, and follow player spotlights. Stay on top of every moment with live stats, highlights, and instant replays. The FIFA World Cup, streaming live on Fox O, offers a subject to change seefox. com for complete terms and conditions You like our new theme chin Oh go what now? 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So what had happened was, Miranda By the way, the Stone Rosers are obscuring the line, voted Music magazine of the Year because we were. What happen was the Stone Rosers had come back with the second coming eventually after five years of. and about and they had issued one photograph. to everybody, onene Pennymith photograph. They were not doing any interviews. and you could not get the record to listen to until the very last minute And it's like, well, we've got to put them on the cover. Obviously what are we going to do? How are we going to make impact So Doing that with the black and white picture, obviously there's a sensible thing to do But there's no other cover lines on. It doesn't say Stone Roses. it doesn't have a little cover linine for any other band on there. No other the band names,'s little strap across the top sayaying ecstasy the toll mounts. Suede Mics Black Cows plus images, phhoto pull out. There's no other color lines on there. And when Bundles, bales of it turned up at the office. and The MD went bananas. She said, you've sent the wrong you've sent the wrong artwork. All the cover lines have fallen off. like, No, no, that's what it's supposed to be. So how will anybody know it's the Stone Roses Anybody who was remotely likely to roll my eyes all the way around. It the whole one hundred percent, the universe of our potential leadership was desperate for this record to come out So make it make impact. You don't need to say by the way, it's theone Roses open brackets, Manchester hitmakers, Fool's goal hitmakers So Rses, wild man of Rocky and Brown. You don't need to do any of that. It's stone fucking roses. Ebody knows it. So pop art it, warhol it, makeake it look like a Make it look like a piece of art. be new I mean, not to not Q. they went very photo realal on everything because c the whole concecept of Q was we get you into the world and we show you what it's really like Dave Kavangh caricided it as Chris Ra reading the paper, which is, you know they did not do inventive wild photography in the nineties. They started to do that in at the end of the nineties when they got ranking on board and then they sort of started to get into that rolling stone thing of let's spend a billion on the photographs to make it work. But this really differentiates us we were not doing what everybody else did. I kind't even remember what the story was. We just flammed it up out of nothing. Well there's a review in there of the secondcond comoming. And I think the review is done by Matt Hall and Matt's, I would say E M by the way. who did the early podmasters podcasts. He did go. But also at the time, I would say his expertise was more like hip hop, on that kind of thing. The review's great and he gives it four out of five and that is correct. I have to say. some people obviously when the second Cing came out gave it like you know, ten out of ten, ten, a hundred out of a hundred, two hundred out of a hundred, that's not correct. but four out neither is it a two star album, which is belie. I think it is. I'm a Stone Rosees a skeptic I collag. It's what it was I remember four stars and that's corct I remember what we did now, we just weve got a preview today, we' got loads and los of people listen. We've got Mark Radcliffe, Liam from the prodroigy who said, I listened to it in the bed in the dark. I really like the first track We got Tracy McLlod from the Late Show We got two of the full We got their former label boss Andrew Lauder, and we got Lu Haines who hated it Luke Hainnes on the hots. everything, who hated it so much that he put the CD under the grill for a photograph. and grilled it Moody yeah. famamous Moody Mount of Rock Jhn Ley, the producer and that Tony Wilson, R IP Tony Wilson. Iy We could bloody get people on the phone. we could. Yeah. When thete rang, you took the call. Okay, do you think that there is That select has a legacy. And if you do, what is it? I absolutely do because among the readers, for even in our little univers here, it's you, it's Jude Rogers was a reader. H had a fer he's on all our pike. She was a reader. She loved it. I continuue to run into people who said it was my favorite magazine in the nineties because what we did was put the whole culture in there. It was it was the haircutting the clothes and taking the, you know, the piss out You know the way people lived their lives, we brought in, you know, dance music as well as guitar stuff I think Actually, seelect is part of the lineage that's It father, its mother is smash it, right? And the legacy of it went off into The way that people talk about pop music in that it is have in not a kind of parasocial adulatory relationship with pop stars, but that you kind of understand their idiosyncrasies and their silliness, and you like them enough that you can take the piss out of them. Yeah you know it was fundamentally an ironic way of looking at pop music in that you can both love something and know its faults. Exactly. I was going to say it's not completely ironic because it's incredibly enthusiastic as well. And also I would say having gone through some of these magazines, you know, there's a lot of early talent spotting. So you've got John Ronsnson in there, you've got Chris Morris in there phoning up people pretending to be somebody else made of a flexy desk Yeah, I mean, you got Piers Morgan and pretended to be Bono And said we're putting I think hes a new records called Schwrancez, which is German for Dick. I I can't remember exactly what it was. We got Piers Borgen. you could he it because Piers thinks he really is Born He's great Bonn.' so great to hear from you, Grol Groble, grovel, you know. So that was good. Yeah and I mean John Rnson is in there Graame Linhan used to write a column for us after I'd left Kin Miranda a few bitbs as well. The legacy really is that nobody's got a bad word to say about it. When you mention it, they go, I lo that. It was incredible. I used to play that tape to death. I had these posts. That story. I mean you did the story for Select on Happy Mondayays in ados Yes in Barbados which is the most deranged and debauchched recording session that had happened in thirty years. And that has passed into that's passed into rock leegend basically. It still is it is, much as I hate to use this word, it is an iconic tale. And that's a bit little bit of legacy Also, you know, I kind of think we did change the way Glastonbury is perceived. There's no way that Channel four and then the BBC would have done what they did if they hadn't seen it in our pages because we wouldn' have seen it any other way. Sadly, the downside to that is now you can't get free tickets at Glastonby because it's f the bloody BC and their caravans. So I've made my own punishment there, haven't I I think I really did it changed the way pop was perceived. and there is a kind of a little bit of a watershed moment, which is Oasis, where suddenly the outside world starts to pay attention and suddenly pop music goes and particularly alternative indie music goes from the bottom page of the bizarre column on the sun to the first three pages That's when it starts to go sour That's when Liam starts wearing that horrible white You know, off a jacket thing. I'm sorry, that's a really great jacket. Yeah, but it's not it's not the oasis of nineteen ninety three and four and five. jacket. But' that's what it's like we're at the top and you're not You know what I mean? That's I think we've we've got the lock on the time before it all starts to go sour Before you get the sea horses and crap like that. Before the metbar. Tw them at bar beforefore everybody starts marrying an all saint or a There's nothing wr with marrying an all saint. We do that. I've got one more question for you, Andrew, and that is how is the Megalomania Well, I mean, I Put it this way, right, I've found an old notebook of mine when I was doing this job, when I was editing seelect. And you know, you sort of absentmindedly draw things while you're on the phone because you had to do everything on the phone those days, no email And I looked at the page and I'd written over and over again, I love my job, I love my job. I love my job like I was Jack Nicholson in the Shining book but happy over and over and over again. And I thought I would never have a job as much fun as this ever ever again. Podmasters, which has got a lot of things it's got a lot at the roots of podmasters We did o God what now? What have you did a politics podcast? What it was funny and it took a p And it wasn't pious and dull. That comes from a select which comes from smash hits, right That's the and this podcast has got its roots in Sack really because what if you could encounter a huge rock star and an indie idiot and a stupid haircut and treat those imposters just the same. if you can treat it all like it's all part of Rock's ridiculous tapestry mate. rock and pops ridiculous tapestry. The strap line on select used to be pop Babylon. Yeah. And we only came up with that one because Rock Babylon was like the terrible tales of what was going on in Los Angeles in the, you know in Laurel Canyon in the early seventies man. we thought ide of pop Babylon was so absurd. We had to put it on the front and we did and nobody could think of the better ones. so it just stayed there for years And became the mission statement. Pop Babylon. Okay, so here at Tork nineties to me, we know that rock and roll ain't noise pollution. That's actually an eighties reference. And so we have a Tk ninety Sotify playlist. whichich track would you like to add, Andrew, given that you've already added one, you're allowed another one. OK, well I'm going add a track that refers to the nineteen ninety four performance of Orbital one of the greatest things ever to happen on the planet We were able to put the live recording of this on a tape It wasn't just the forty thousand people who watched it at Glastenbury, one hundred thousand people could hear it and they could hear the incredible sound of not just this brilliant piece of battering know eleven minute long electronic music, but you hear the audience lose their minds because it was only round about then that when the breakdown came in, people would start to cheer because they'd been clubbing and that's what you do. you start to clap and cheer And this was the first time it really started to be applied to dancepeers. So this is impact. The Earth is burning by orbital. That's going to go on the playlist. We'll try and put the live version on if we can't put the studio version on, but it is just incredible. And it's the one that goes it's the one that's got that voice going. It's a cry. It's a cry for survival, for their survival and for our survival. Now, imagine York Glasterby's nineteen ninety four, the sod is scorching down. You may have taken a few local pick me ups just to give you a a little bit of a poke to get through the day and your head will just explode. It will. o. That was T nineties to me, featuring the brilliant Andrew Harrison, Wh who is to be found on the bunker? Oh god what now and every suede orbital and half man, half biscuit gig you will ever attend Okay, if you join our Patreon, not only will you get the chance to buy some very cute merch such as Talk nineties to mee mugs, long suities, and bucket hats. You'll also get some special extra episodes about odd stuff I like from the nineties and you might become our Talk nineties King or quQueen for a week. 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