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The Prehistoric Plague

May 3, 202648 min
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In this episode of The Ancients, host Tristan Hughes and science journalist Laura Spinney explore the hidden history of prehistoric disease. While historical records only document plague outbreaks over the last five thousand years, recent breakthroughs in ancient DNA (aDNA) analysis have revealed that the bacterium Yersinia pestis was ravaging human populations as far back as the late Neolithic and Bronze Age. The discussion highlights the shift in scientific understanding: researchers can now extract microbial DNA from ancient teeth and bones, even when those remains have been handled for centuries. Spinney explains that the domestication of animals likely created a "laboratory" for zoonotic pathogens to jump the species barrier, as humans began living in closer proximity to livestock. The hosts also examine the role of the Yamnaya, a nomadic pastoralist culture whose migration into Europe may have coincided with the spread of plague. The episode delves into how early human immune systems evolved in response to these ancient scourges, suggesting that many modern genetic conditions may be the remnants of historical adaptations to these early, terrifying pandemics.

Updated Jul 7, 2026

About This Episode

The first ever outbreak of 'plague' - Yersinia Pestis, the most feared disease in human history - was long thought to be the Plague of Justinian in 541 AD. But new studies of ancient DNA have revealed traces of Yesinia Pestis dating back more than 5,000 years. 


In this episode of The Ancients, Tristan Hughes is joined by Laura Spinney to explore the origins of prehistoric plague. How did this pestilence emerge to blight the Neolithic world? Where did it come from? And could it have triggered a Stone Age collapse which signalled the dawn of the Bronze Age in Europe? Discover how this deadly pathogen reshaped entire Stone Age societies, long before the advent of written history. 


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Presented by Tristan Hughes. Audio editor is Aidan Lonergan. The producer is Joseph Knight. The senior producer is Anne-Marie Luff.

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