Clicking Noise in Toyota Corolla

Hello and welcome to Carart Talk from National Public Radio withith us Click and Clack the Tacer Brothers, and we're broadcasting this week from the Neo Nomenclature division here in Car Talk Baza. Well, if you haven't heard, O'smobile is out Yeah. GM recently announced that over the next three years, it'll be putting Osmobile out of its misery Well, it's about time. taken out back behind the Rogersmith Memorial Barn and it's going put a bullet behind it left side. Yeah. Well, we told them to get rid of Ols. You you remember years ago we said why is there an Osmobile And Osmobilees sent us all kinds of nasty mails saying, What do you mean? Osmobile has a distinct image in the marketplace. Pople love it. And now they finally come around and they understand that we were right all the time. Well for one thing, the name Sounds old. And that's why we're at the No Nomenclature division because a it's a nineteenth century name and worse of all, it has old the word old in it. It has the word old in it. as you know, it's named after Ransom E. Oes. Yes. And it's called the Os Mobile, which sounded good at the time, but now it sounds Hey The mobile part of it is okay the old part has to go. So we came up with some other names and we realized that his GM they meant as usual, they have it wrong They just have no concept of marketing they have T many names. They got GM. They got Asmorbe, they got Pontiac, they got Cadillac. Chevrot, We think they don't have enough names becausecause you have to do, I mean, everyone knows this, target marketing. icle. And we came up with names they might want to use. they might want to reconsider this. No, let's hear the man we go. I mean, this was just, don't forget We just did this on the back of an envelope here. so it'll be painfully obvious is it about a minute and a half? I mean, things like, if you're gonna target market, you' got to target market to who the people are What's wrong with like a bimboobile A Mobile. Momobile. Yeah I like that. Yeah. For the teenage market, the testosteronemobile For those people who are looking for reliability A Hondobile. The genereneral motors Hondomobile. And then let's see, we had a couple of others here. The Hundomobile. Well then then we got like Bar Mitzer Mobile. Sort for special occasions, you can you can market segment, you can segment on the basis of occasions. And for audio files, how about the bs Oh moobile The Bosemobile would have been enough. I like Ohh yeah like that in there. Well there's a separate niche for that, I think. So mean GM, who's the president now or the CEO or the chairman of the board? Wh is Jack Smith? Another Smith Whatne of the Smith Bing one of the Sith cough drops too. Porter Wagoner. Porter Wagoner. that's him I mean, you might want to reconsider this decision So Give us a call and we can help you. I did some great duets with Dolly, didn't he? Oh, man I never heard anyone play the banjo like the president of General Motors. Well, if you have any suggestions or you'd like to just talk to us We don't care what You can call us it eight cart T talk. It's eight two, seven, eight two, five five lawyer on Cartard. Hi, this is Heather calling from El Paso, Texas Out in the West Texas town of Alpas. Is That's gott to be the town anthem. Allight Yes. Do people go out humming out in the streets at? O course. Every day. So what's going on, Heather? What kind of a suburban do you have? GMC or Chevy Oh close Honda Civic Yeah, so what's up It's a ninety three and it's a two door And about two months ago I started noticing strangeest s down, it sounds like No kidding. Yeah. What vocal range? Is a Baritone or is a Lon there? No, definitely a soprano. A soprano. Yeah. It started out to be a real high pitch. Almost a nice sort of sound, but . squ Under what circumstances does the sound occur? Well, it happens usually after the car has been sitting And as I start to drive, the sound starts and as I as not when it first starts. No, not until actually maybe the wheels start turning.. Okay. Yeah, good, good. Anyway and as I pick up speed, the sounds kind of, you know, picks up. seems to go faster and faster. And usually when I get between thirty and forty miles an hour, the sound. pretty much stopped Yeah Is it like a very high screech Um it is But it's punctuated though. Is it continuous like that Are no, no, no. What There are be monkeys. Yeah monkeys in El Paso. It's continuous. Yeah And does aren't you sorry you asked that question? I didn't ask. You did. You said, is it continuous like that Yeah. And does it answer this question? Maybe. And give us the right answer. we won't be able to give you one. If you step on the brake while this is happening. Nice question, baby. Does it change? I mean, I know it changes because you slow down Can it actually even go away When you step on the brake? No, She's gonna say no, I knew it. I knew she was gonna say no. All right. I have a fallback. I have one too. Okay What do you think it? Do You have an ideas? I'm working on a wheel bearing at the moment. You are. Yeah, what are you working on? Oh I wasn't working on a wheel braak. I'm working on a stuck caliper on the right front wheel. You are. ye That was at at the house last night you check this. Even with her answer about the brake, touching the brake doesn't do nothing to it. Yeah Really? Yeah, I decided that I could you could just a yes or a no answer would have those the best question.ose are the best. That doesn't matter what she said. No I think what happens is you have a caliper that sticks and then as you drive along You make the noise speak or it makes the noise because the brake is touching the disk and it shouldn't be at least with that kind of intensity. And then after you've worn away a little bit of the brake material, the noise in fact will go away. or if you go fast enough, you just don't hear it. Yeah. And then it probably is al right after a while because you've worn away enough of the brake so that it doesn't touch I'll hold it now. No't know ye We have to go there. We have to We have to ask. Okay. If that happens, and then you come to a stop U Does the noise come back Not necessarily. Not necessarily. sometimes sometimes Sometimes we'll be good enough Yes Okay time Oh No, sometimes iss good enough. Yeah, I don't think you'll be on stump the chumps Heather, but I think you should take it into your shop, your mechanic and have them check to see if you have a stuck caliper Okay. All right Thank you. Good luck. Bye bye. Bye bye. One eight eight eight car talkalk that's eight eight eight two two seven eight two five five. Hello, you're on car talkalk This is Matthew from Boise Idaho. Hi, Matthew from Boise Yeah, So my problem is is well, I have a nineteen ninety three Geo tracker U and it's a big piece of crap pretty much. Well it's a little piece. Yeah. It's very little. Yeah donatoy almost. And it was expensive. Did you buy it new No. I bought it used unfortunately. I remember some years ago thinking that I wanted a veicle like that. I mean, every everyone goes through that stage in his or her life. Yeah. Be it is a nice kind of vehicle. Well, and it's an adventuresome kind of vehicle. It makes you feel like you're on vacation or some kind of an adventure. O you can take the car off. Or you could take the top off or it could blow off all by itself. And I went to the the local Chevrolet dealer in our town. And I remember laaughing out loud when you said I saw the sticker price Yeah. I don't remember how much it was But it was as much as like a real car. And he said, he got. And I asked the salesman to explain it and he shook his head. he said We don't I ex. why you go look at something else? Anyway, go ahead. All right. Pick out two or three things that are wrong with it. There's this It's a high pitch sound coming anotherother one. Another sound Coming from, it sounds like the driver's side in the front from that wheel or something. But it's usually when I'm obviously when I'm driving and about when I hit about, I don't know, maybe thirty five, it kind of subsides but it's not as high pitched as maybe That's a f. Yeah But it's pretty it's pretty high pitched And kind of like a moan. Well, you've heard all the questions we asked her. What are your answers to all those questions That doesn't happen until you start moving. It actuallyually happens when you turn it on though too. So you don't have to be moving. No., good, good, good. That means it's a different answer. That's bad. Yes. You don't recycled an answer here. And when you hit about thirty five though, it does seem to kind of dissipate but it comes back though too once in a while Um, and, uh, if you do press on the brakes, it doesn't change it that doesn't change anything and move this moving U haveave you ever tried revving the engine when the vehicle is stationary? like you leave it neutral, for example, and you rev it up. Does that change the noise No, I think the noise is still there. The noise doesn't increase in frequent Is it a continuous sound? Oh actuallyually it does. No, no, it is not a continuous sound. Sometimes it'll go it'll do that Really And then once you start moving, it stays there It's there until you about hit about thirty five and then ty five or forty right around there and then I can'tar it anymore. And then it goes away. And then you come down to to a slow speed again, the noise and it comes back though it does come back. And is it there the whole time the car is running And it seems to be ye, I've begun to ignore it, so I'm not sure anymore. And it's been there how long Oh boy Pbe about two or three weeks. Yeah. I think you have a bad water pump. I thought a stuck brake caliper. You could have that too. Now're we're going to eliminate the brakes and bearings and the like because told obviously not in the wheels, it's in the engine. There's something that's turning when the engine's running. Okay so that's not good. The the whes aren't. And a loose belt, for example, would make more of a screeching sound. that would probably go away after the thing warmed up. Yeah. it's not a screech. And I think you of a bad water pump You're hearing the bearing And it'll make a moanning kind of rattling kind of scraping sound. Oh, you covered all the bases there. Whis what? Moanning rattling scraping about thumping. You to throw a thump No thump No thump. But I think you should get this looked at soon because if the water pump blows, you could ruin the engine Okay. Even more than it's ruined already. Let's say if it was the water pump, are those expensive? No. No, no, a few hundred bucks, I think. Holy mo. Holy moly. That car's even worth a few hundred bucks. No's That doesn't matter. That explains your reluctance to have it looked at. Remember, some people have the theory that you shouldn't spend more on the car than the car is already worth. And I have pointed out many times that if that were the case, I would never be able to put gas in any of the cars I've ever own Say it, Matt.. All right, Tommy, I'm going to give you a hint about last week's puzzer. All right, give it to me. I am ready for a hint ten inches is not always longer than six inches grasshopper. H. Let me see what's in that coffee cup. We'll be back in a minute Hi, we're back. you're listening to Car Talk with us Clickking and Clack the Tapppick Brothers and we're here to talk about cars, car repair, but first The answer to last week's p And a good one, it was I didn think so last week, I did. This is from our exhaustive series of Insect puzzlers entntomology division? Yes, indeed. And here it is Two grasshoppers are hanging around or maybe jumping around one day and each is boasting that he is faster than the other one T too settle the argument, they decide, of course, to have a race The larger of the grasshoppers, Throck Morton A Thocky. Thcky canan jump ten inches at us in a single bound The other grasshopper Rocky can only jump six inches at a shot So the larger grasshopper says, we're going to set up a race course that's twenty four feet long twelve feet out and twelve feet back Yeah. So they're reach at the starting point. Vgun bats hopper Shoot with the gun and they take off. Now even though Throcky, the bigger guy can jump ten inches at a shot. The little guy, Rocky, jumps more often So when they get to the five foot mark, for example, which is sixty inches Big guy has jumped six times, six times ten. And the little guy has jumped ten times, but they' dead even, neck and neck, antenna to antenna. Wow. The question is which one wins the race and why? Well unfortunately Tucky. Yeah. This was immediately apparent. This was a very easy, poss. Well, you gott to give an easy one once in a while. How can I got it Berman Berman worked Berman got it Berman worked on it and he got it too cheated He probably asked Louis. Louis. Okay becausecause the course is twelve feet or one hundred and forty four inches Yeah, the little guy jumping six inches at a shot. Yeah. admittedly they're even at five feet And they're even at ten feet too. But when they get to twelve feet Yeah trouble breaks out because the little guy happens to land right on turnaround point Exactly. withith twenty four jumps. Yeah. after after fourteen jumps ocky Rocky gone over Is it one hundred and forty inches and his in his next jump Brings him to he has to to makes jumps. Yeah, he can't make jumps. No, he he doesn't know how. Brings him to one hundred and fifty inches from which he can never recover. sure. So the little guy as you suspected Wins the race? Do we have a winner Good guys always finish last? Yeah, we got a winner. The winner is Sue Spooner Estes Park, Colorado, and for having her answer selected at random Among all the correct answers that we got, Sue will get a twenty five dollars gift certificate to the shameless Commerce division at the Cart Tk section of cars. com. You go to cars. com, you go to Kartk, you go to the store. And with that twenty five dollarars gift certificate you can get the better part Navy twill cotton workshirt. What it' just what it' taking off one sleeve and This is so good. I mean, this is the most brilliant marketing idea we've ever come up with. We give people a twenty five dollars gift certificate, nothing costs twenty five dollars. It's just the same. It's exactly the same as the puzzler go either you you can't hitither come up short the market or you have to overshoot. You can't come up short. That means you're throwing away a twenty five dollars gift certificate. So you always have to buy that extra five inches of shirt. What can we lose How can we be so broke? That's the question I was going to ask. Why isn't it working? It was so brilliant. Well, Sue Spooner from Estes Park, Colorado, good luck to you, Kim. Congratulations. Of course, we'll have a new puzzler coming up in the third half of today's show and what a puzzler is Do you know what time it is? Time to wake Bugsy from his pre winter hibernation? No, no, no. It's time to play Stuff the chops This is the part of the show where we revisit a previous call to see if the advice we gave was darn good. darn bad Or darn to fin know. So who's our lucky contestant this week? Well, the little card here says it's David from Missouri. Do you remember him? neither do I? No, I can't even remember what time to show up for this show. I mean, come on. All right, I'm going to refresh both of our memories from this little note David called us because he thought his cow was trying to kill him No I think they have medicationations for. No, no, this was different. Every time you put on the fan He got a terrible cough. that he was getting Legionaires's disease. I told him there were probably moles growing in his air conditioning vents If I could shoot some disinfectant into this thing, it might do it. Trouble is I don't know where to put it Well you'd put it in in the fresh air scoop, which is right where your winsieow wiper blades are. You might have to do it hundred times. Not to mention the health risk associated with inhaling lysols. Well, you're not going to be in the car when you do that. But you will be inhaling that stuff. So I mean, I'm always questioning Yeah, messing with nature. Yeah. It's like spraying for West Nile virus mosquitoes. So we save seven lives and kill we give twenty five million people brain lesions. See, that's why the quality of our answers has gone down. Brain lesions and all that west stle spraying. I mean, we used to be good at it. Well, let's find out how we did, David, are you there? I am. Before we find out what happened, we need to verify that the answer you're about to give here on Stump the Chumps has not been influenced by our staff, the staff of National Public Radio, or the two dozen medical malpractice lawyers that are lining up outside your housees to speak. Not at all Did you take our advice and spray the lysol? Well yeah, I took your advice. I went to my friendly Walmart store and ye to the disinfectant section and they had an amazing array of this stuff all at different prices. So I began reading the labels and they all promised to do the same thing, which has killed ninety nine point nine percent of the and caused brain lesion They didn't say that. No, no, they don't mention that. I bought the least expensive one, which I think was the Walmart you know, in house, great value brand. And clean linen incidentally was the bouquet, the flavor of the Oh yes, oh yes. Can linen. Clean linen She they have something called clean underweight. Hang up your shorts at night and get a spray to be on the next day. Look at all the money you'd save on soap. So anyway, sorry. Yeah, so you did. Okay, so I sprayed it into that intake port and then I let the fan run for ten minutes or so. and it worked. I have not had the problem since. It was like n day Wow Hey, have you noticed' getting worse. hair it didn't fall out. my teeth. Yeah. But you don't you still understand people and you haven't your memory hasn't gotten bad or anything like that. So far and it's been a couple of weeks. Oh, you're all set, I think. See, that's great. One little tcket ten second spray did it? It did it. And yeah, and and it cle running the thing for as long as I did, cleaned it out. There was hardly any odor of a clean linid at all Well, you know, we're going to have to have you back in a year or so to to see if you're still c. Yeah. say hello, Dave. Hi there boys. Thanks for playing Stumped Chumps. See you later d. Bye bye. Look, if you hear someone you'd like us to have on Stumped Chumps, email us your suggestion from the Cart Talks section of cars dot com or you can call right now and you can stump us right now in all likelihood. the number is eight eighty eight C Talk. that's eight eight eighty two seven hundred eighty two fifty five. Hello, you're on C Talks Hey, this is Eddie from California Eddie. You're just like a man about town. You're all over the state. That's me. Eddie from Cali. What's what's what's what's convertible No You don't drive a converable So you don't live in Souther California. I do live in Southern California. Do you? You should have a con. live in Sanino Oh man You don't wantanna have a convertible around here the smogs you think, you know? Yeah. Yeah, you wind up with a black forehead. And one hundred and fourteen degrees to of the day it was it was test driving, a convertible. We you know, we get cars to test driving There I was driving through Harvard Square lookingoo for a place to park And I drove around, drove around, drove around a block about twenty eight times. looking topop down beautiful day Top down beautiful day. I mean, always right with the world. Yeah. And I knew a parking space was awaiting me any second And out of nowhere where a hand comes and gives me a dope slap on the forehead I mean, the force of which almost knocked my head off Really? And I spun around looking for who had administered this dope slap Only to discover it wasn't a dope slap Fowing from a considerable distance. And how did I discover it? When I use my right hand to soothe my pain Y It was disgusting. That's never happened to me. And as you know, I've had many, many get convertible. There are many things that could fall into that head of yours that you wouldn't know How would I know. Anyway, Ed, now we've discussed the merits or lack of of owning a convertible What are you calling about? Well, I've got a eighty five three hundred twenty five E BMW Yeah And about a month ago or since a month ago, I've been driving using the emergency brake Because if I touch the brakes at all, I got about two miles or even less than that and the car will just to break on its own and I'll have pull over and the thing will just stop So yeah, about a month ago, I was on the freeway and I realized that I was slowing down and you were going slower and slow. I stepped on the gas and I realized there wasn't anything left and the car was exponentially owing down so I had to within about two blocks I had to pull over and the thing just locked up I sat there for about a half hour before it unlocked and allowed me to take off again for another two miles. This is no way to drive it Ill tell you what, mechanically inclined. I've never come across anything like this. I was stumped So do you drive from like San Bernardino to LA every day? On the freeway at's seventy five miles an hour using the hand brake. I know at first I was going as fast as I could when I'd start out. know. Yeah, then you realize. Then you realize how lousy the hand brake was at stopping. Oh man, Then it would start, you know, it smell that asbestos or whatever brakes are m. Heepers Just take it somewhere and they'll fix it. It's obvious what it is. Is that right? Oh sh. we think it's the booster. powerower brake booster And if you want to do an experiment? What I've been doing is I've been popping the hood and I've just been taking an eleven millimeter wrench and loosen and opening the line loosening the area next to the master cylinder, letting it drain out a little bit and then go right Right Well here I'm going to give you one better experiment to do. Okay. You're ready You're going to love this. Because it could be of three things. Yeah. I could be You could have a stuck caliper, but I'm guessing that it's either the booster or the master some ofone that's faulty. and here's how you're going to determine which it is the next time it happens Instead of loosening up the hydraulic line that comes off the master cylinder, o What you're going to do is actually take off the two nuts that secure the master cylinder to the booster. So you can now separate the booster from the master cylinder opening any of the hydraulic lines, you're just going to bend the lines Okay. At that point, you're going to see if you can move the car. Okay. If you can't The problem is the master cylinder If you can The problem is the booster. Okay. How did this come about and it was just You know, and decide to lock up my brakes, you know? No, I don't know. We don't know how things break. why happen Eddie, There are cosmic energies at work here that we can't hope to understand They're way beyond us. I mean, we have enough trouble simply figuring out what to do with them. So the vacuum booster? Yeah, it's probably the booster, but if you do this little test, it's a sure fire test Can't miss I really appreciate this Good luck and fix it before you drive anymore, Eddie. 'cause it's ns to be driving like this. Yeah, I've had a few close calls already. Yeah, you're gonna hurt somebody. You may hurt somebody and you'll be really sorry. As long as I'm not driving in a convertible, right? Right Right. You gott wear a hat. That's see. Good luck, Eddie. Hi name was not Edie, was Eddie Hey, stick around for more calls and the new puzzler coming right up We're back youre listening to C talkalk with us, Click and Cect the Tappper Bothers. and we're here to discuss cars, car repair and the new I would have to say mathematical and indeed challenging puzzer, You you think? This could be the puzzler of the millennium. Well, you know, it could be the puzler of this millennium. I mean I think the Monte Hall puzzer was the puzzer of the pz prev previous millennium. This could be the one that stands out as the puzzer of maybe all time. Well, I don't know, but here it is And I would say this is better than Monty Hall. You think so? Oh, more abstruse. We're gonna play a little imaginary little game Okay. Go ahead. Imagine there is an imaginary hat sitting on the table. There there were going to be two contestants. The table imaginary? No, tables real. You Tomm me will be one of the contestants. callall the other one Vinny. Yeah, gotcha. So you reach into the hat, Tommy and you pull out a number and Vinny does the same. Now the reason this hat is magical is that no matter what number you pull out Vinny will always pa out a number that is either one above or one below your number So if you pull out a two, Tommy For example, you know Vineas pulled out either a one or a three And to make it simple, we'll limit the numbers to between one and say, I don't know, infinity. Why not? So each of you pulled out a number. Let's say you pick three and Vinnie picks two. I'm the moderator, and I ask Tommy, do you know what number Vinny has? Tommy looks at his number, it was just three and says No. That's right.' say I don't know So I ask Vinnie, do you know what number Tommy has He looks at his number two and says Yes. Oh, Okaykay. Now regardless of the numbers that are picked assuming that both contestants answer truthfully If I keep asking the question Both of them. In other words, I go, I ask one contestant first then the next contestant and if I keep getting, if I get a not from the second guy, I go back to the first guy and ask him again And when I finally get sick of that, I'll say, okay, one of has got twenty and the other moreon has twenty one. So I will keep doing this. Eventually. O of them will know without a doubt. other contestants number question is comeome is that? Now if you think you know the answer, write it on a postcard or tape it better still to the top of a laa Povoni Romantica PG sixteen espresso maker with brass boiler and solid mahogany handles cept. Sent it to Puzzler Tower attention, Ramy, Car Talk Plaza box three thousand five hundred, Harvard Square, Cambridge ourour fity Mat zero two two three eight or you can email your answer, of course from the Car Tal section of cars d. com which by the way will have a detailed explanation of the whole puzzle I'm telling you. So if you're really confused by the verbal answer You can go to you'll be able to go to the website. I don't think the servers at cars. com are be able to handle the volume of people who are going to come to see this. I mean, stay away. stay away for a while until until that Til the rush of Frenzy. The Frenzy is over. Frenzy is over call us. The number is eight eight eight carart T talk. that's eight two, seven, eight two five, five a lawyer on C Tks. Hi, I'm Megan from Atlanta, Georgia I'm Meghgan fromtlanta, Georgia How you? How are you? Good, How are you I have a ninety two Toyota Corolla And I took it to my mechanic and I've been going to him about six months or so and I'm not sure if I can trust him. M U, we are. Does he have There's an ocean there in Atlanta, isn't there far away Yeah. Well, you can trust him th. Well, he works he works kind of for himself. Yeah Kind of in like a backyard situation. Don't we all? undernder the shade of a tree Yes. Okay. and and that he needed to boot them Otherwise my axle would go bad Well, reboot is more like reboot them. Yeah, you have to sh shut the card down and you work for Microsoft So they did they did it they were dirty and did he determine that the boots in fact were torn? say Aidently. That's what it sounds like. He didn't say anything like that But he said that he needed to reboot them. Yeah. And that would mean that the boots which are covering up the grease of the CV joint cororn are broken and dirt is getting in And he wants to replace the boot. Right. Yeah. and you don't believe it. Well, sounds bogus to you. Well, sort of because I work downtown I park on the street, and when I leave at night instead of going all the way down, I just make a U turn It's a really sharp turn And my car makes a clicking noise. Oh, how unfortunate. Jeez. Now see, you were questioning whether you should trust this guy Right. And the truth of the matter is could trust them. And it's too late Yeah, when he first told you of the condition, which may have been months ago. Right You should have done something about it. I told him to go ahead and replace to do it Oh, he did. Yeah Oh, it was too late then He found it too late. Oh no Because what you're hearing is the noise from the constant velocity or CV joint. Whenoint when the joint wears out, it will make this clicking noise, especially when you make sharp Tourist And it's exacerbated by a turn through which you're accelerating. For example, if you were stopped at a dead stop and you cranked the wheel all the way to the right. took off which is you would get a click, like like got out of the lift front wh Which is what is what's what it's doing. Yeah. So you need to replace that joint. But the good news is you've already spent the money on the boot That's the good news for him. That's good. Yeah. That's good because they're gonna replace him again. Well, and I would just wait until the noise gets a lot worse. I don't think you're in any imminent danger. Okay Wait a minute. you're always advising people, why wait Why wait, fix it right now. Why worry about it? You're gonna spend the money anyway. That's what you're always telling. I always try to allay her fears. How do you know that she doesn't want to just run out and spend a few hundred bucks? I don't have a few hundred wait. Yeah, you should wait On the other hand, you can go back to him and say, Gee, know, you put that boot on, but now I need an axle and you know, now if I buy an axle, I'm going to get a new boot with it And I feel like I've thrown the money away on the boot that you just did. So cut me a deal Right? because he charged me three hundred To do both boots? Yes. Some tree Three hundred. Some trees working under I need a tree like this. It's a big tree. Well he may have to hold the car up with one hand. So that's probably got a rope over. Let me explain the high cost. So I would go back and ask him to cut you some kind of a deal. Okay. Yeah. See you, Meghgan, good luck. Thank you. Bye bye. Byye. Well, it's happened again, you've wasted another perfectly good hour listening to car talk Our esteem producer is Doug the subub. We should be asking your questions Like who is our esteemed producer? Doug Bungle Boy Berman? And who are the associate producers? Well, Louis Cron, the barbarian and David Tight liips Green. Who's the engineer? Do we have an engineer? Tad Masiman Curry Do we have a senior weblacy? Well, we had one. I don't know what happened to him. He was Wh was he? and where is it? Doug the old Greaymare AKA sheep boy. And of course, do we have a technical spiritual and menu advisor? Yes, do. He's currently recovering from his polar expedition to reintroduce the Eskimo Pi Cone, buugs. Our public opinion plloster is Paul Murky of Murkey Research, asssisted by statistician Margin Overa. 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