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I've told They say they can't do anything. That's true. They say you can't do anything unless something actually happens. Yeah. I that's true. It'sal equivalent of like, I'm not t exactlyhing him I'm not harassing you. I just I'm walking the same direction So let's get into it. Brian. how how was your weekend This was a glorious weekend in that I didn't do anything. It was a stay at home, do chores, keep up with life kind of weekend. Yeah. whichich was nice. I think the last few weekends, something kept happening, but now Everything it was a good reset. There was like right next to where I live is like a pottery shop or not a shop. It was like a pottery pottery bar you bu Pottery bar Yeah. And they were having like a they do a monthly market for everyone who does pottery there like sell their stuff. We happened to walk by and I was like, well, did it open. so we found some cool pottery stuff. U man, the things that you can do with pottery is actually kind of crazy. This guy had like a bunch of robots that he made. Well not like functional, but like o it's just the shape of robots. like Yeah So on board. Yeah. It was cool. It was cool. But otherwise, pretty uneventful, But how about you It was good. My weekend was a weird mix of being crazy eventful and then like very chill. So like, you know, I'm in the process of buying the house I'm renting. is, you know, I feel very fortunate to be in that position, but it's still a very stressful process. So like, you know, Sunday morning, we had inspectors there for like three hours and we're dog sitting a friend's dog who weighs one hundred pounds and I'm a tiny dog guy. So that's like a whole new Dynamic, but then like once that was over, You know, like Saturday afternoon after the inspections were done, I sat in my backyard and I read books about whales while like listening to William Bazinski's disintegration loops volume three Okay DLP four and five. very good reading about whales U It got a whale guy. It G a whale guy. Yeah, basically I basically just read most of the weekend. I finished nice. I finished one book about whales, started a second book about whales I ordered while reading this book about whales. Dude. Yeah make three whale books in row. so I was like, I gotta take a break. This is too much. How you read so much about one thing? I can't even read one book about something I care about. They're so rad. they're so fascinating Uh, but um So I was like, I just need like a new random book and I'm replaying Final Fantasy six right now and I happen to have a copy of boss fight books, volume on Final Fantas. Yeah. Yes And it's like mostly about the soundtrack, which is like really interesting But it was also like very similar to one of the whale books I was reading, which like what are the boundaries between like noise and music and language? And this one was talking about like, well, in early video games, like they made sound, but then we made it music and noui Matu was like One of the kind of key figures in that, like U, So there was like a nice kind of W, thenen I finished that and started reading a book about tattoos. You met. was After it to whales, you're like, I need something ground. I was just I was like, I need something from a totally different angle. And then this book on tattoos turns out to be wildly academic. L I have to look shit up constantly. but I don't even find these books. You just have like them'm on all these university press mail books. And when they have sales, I'll go like, well, I'd buy that for fifty percent off. Wow Okay, I didn't even know that existed. Neither did I and now I'm hook like that's great. Yeah. These are the things no one tells you about. No one tells you theres University mailing list for books. No, No one tells I're pretty sick. Yeah. Princeton University press has a mailing list, Chicago University press, MIT press has a mailing list. I'm on them all. I'm on all, I'm all mailing list. Super academic guy. I'm jealous. I don't know where you find the attention span to keep reading these books I just can't do it, man. Honestly, part of it is like if you set the vibe right. you know, So like for instance, like Yeah, William Basinski Great for reading about whales, shhit for reading about vide. Right? Like video games, you want to put on the field, you want to put on forortet, like something to keep you kind of like zoned in, but like in the realm, you know. Okay. I can't I can't put any music on if I'm reading because I'll get distracted by the music. Yeah If it has lyrics, I'll get distracted. But yeah, if its if it's just like bips and boops or like, you know tones or something. Oh yeah. Music for Animals by Nils From, No they're very good will whale read. I got a whole bunch I got a whole bunch of You know, I fly so much. I have all these like airplane hours That's what I need to do. That's what I need to do because I've been reading Abundance for the past like two or three months. Oh cl ye. I just can't get through it. And I like the thing they're talking about anyyway. we'll talk about Our next book Aventures in another time. Yes, yes, yes. I mean, believe me, there will there will be more I yeah, I keep track. I've read six hundred books in the past decade at this point, which feels. I feel yeah, my my house is slowly becoming aive Let's Let us move on. let us move on. let us move on. So Let's go into these sort of headlines that we got. We got video footage of Chris Evans confirming he will return in secret wars. And this was the one we talked about a couple of months ago. that it was like an Instagram user whose husband got her is a cameo recording of Chris Evans And they only showared the audio then. now now it's the footage that lines up with the audio. So yeah not like Eth shattering new information, but Conirmation of something that we had heard without context and certainly is like Okay Yeah, this is Chris Evans. This isn't like some guy doing a good Chris Evans in presion or, you know, I mean, that was part of the thing where like we weren't entirely sure. like did sound like Chris Evans, but we weren't entirely sure because she wasn't showing anything. It just the earlier release of the audio I don't think I don't think any of us are trying to say like we didn't trust this malicious woman, you know, this harpy spreading on truth. You know, like it was just one of those things where it's like, well, she certainly seems to think it's real and she's certainly very excited about it But it was just the provenance of it was a little bit unclear. and now now it's clear. you know, very clearly lines up. I wonder because took a listen it again, just like since it came back up. We're at the end. Chris Evans was like, I can't tell you anything, but like something's coming up. so you know, be prepared for that. Something along those lines. And I'm like, wait, what's coming up? Nothing has Was it the coffee shop you was talking about? I know about this London coffee shop. Lian broom. I wonder if they were planning on something and they didn't pull the trigger or if he's thinking of something else? It might I'm not sure Be you know, based on the timing of the original audio release of the message, he might have been talking about his appearance at Comicon. or not Comic Con Vic Con or Cinemon, Cinemicon. Jesus. Yeah. Too C. get a new second half of a Portmantau I think you're totally right But yeah, he might have been talking about his his in person appearance with RDJ to show it to the press and stuff. That's true. because also I believe that that the woman who had released the audio recording, her husband was like in the industry or something, which is how he Yeah. So it's possible he might have been referring to that event Is that reign on it at le That makes sense. And it makes sense that that person would probably be a cinemicon or something. Yeah as aary. Yeah. Okay. You're in the clear, Steve. You're the clear. I didn't trust you. But now I do. I think I think it was I think she posted it because it was Christm's birthday or something. It was like an honor of his birthday. Yeah Yeah something like that. Yeah. I do I think it's funny that she did decide to just like, yeah, I'll show the video now I guess all the NDA stuff was cleared. I guess, yeah. I mean, it's also funny like You know, I am very genuinely we talked a couple of weeks ago like I am very genuinely excited for Doomsday. Yes. You know, I am very genuinely a Marvel fan. I call out the turds Daredevil Oh God But I celebrate the wins, Wonder Man. And I'm really stoked for Xen X Men ninety seven season two. that looks like it's going to go so hard An Animation, the team on the animation team do crazy. But you know, but I'm very genuinely excited for Doomsday and Secret Wars and Spider Man, but we'll get to that in a second You know, but it's funny that like I I want Marvel to I do get worried that the snake is eating its own tail, right? Like, you know, if we're like leaning so hard on U RDJ and Chris Evans, you know, like I I wonder what the future will look like More often than not, they've gotten it right, so I'm not too worried about it, you know? But I do I do just hope that we will kind of I want that two point zero feel, you know? Yeah, one hundred percent Um I had thought it had completely vanished him. I hope you thought I was M Briony. I was just like ye. I like marble. That's my thought. know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna just so I can close my laptop because I've had this open so I could read something I get the text right U Marvel is doing Marvel Comics is doing a crossover with the Muppets. called the Muppets Take the Marvel Universe U Is this the most important story in Nerd fandom right now? No, I can't imagine' else. It's a godamn delight though.. The thing I want to read are the they announced the creative team for the event U, this is this is from Polygon., I'm getting this Um And Polygon also reports that the news detailed four of the stories that we're getting, one story being, quote Bruce Branner, Boot Bruce Banner and Hank Pimm stopping by Muppet labs for an experiment with Bunson and Beaker involving gamma rays and pin particles, which I'm like Hell yeah, dude. A plus. Hell yeah. A plus. And then another featuring the crew of Swine Trek meeting Rocket Raccoon and Grop Wh A plus. And one of the reason I think I got so excited about this is when I was a kid, one of the very first comic books I got, when I was like, this wasn't the one that like kind of opened the door to comics for me, but it's one I remembered reading and liking Was there was an alf X men crossover called the uncanned X men and it was kind of like Like Alf was with the X men for some reason. Alf is of course, alien Lform Gordon Shumway from the planlanet Mel Mac right We all know this heats cats Oh But I But when I was like eight, I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. I got My two favorite things. Alph and sus, you know,. Um That's so fun though. You know, it was controversial because this is actually six one six cananics. They canonized them up. Oh really? I I was like, No way Could you imagine? Yeah They actually have Muppet labs in the cananon in the six months. I would be so on board. It's so funny Uh, yeah I guess this iss just If they want to canonize it, different universe where the muppets just exist. Although the muppets exist in our universe. That's true. Yeah. Who's to say they don't just exist in the six one six I know. I like that they're doing just fun stuff though. Yeah, I'm. J just like, hey, give me something joyous, you know, like this is wonderful. Iy know. We don't take it too seriously. No. We don't think it take it too seriously Speaking of not taking things too seriously, I want to talk about the supergirl soda cup. Okay ye, which For those of you who hasn't seen Break room fans will be delighted to know it's fleshy as hell. It is It's very fleshy. I'm notot to put anything on the marketing team or development team or whatever, but it's one of those things we're like how did you get this all the way through? and nobody said, Hey, that looks really fleshy. Yeah So So for those of you who haven't seen it, and I'm sure Brian will put an image in in post, but it's not here now. He won't We obvestly might get demonitized It's very clearly meant to be her like French coat with a hood. Yeah. However, it looks like foreskin. It It looks like a soda cover. It covered in foreskin And I stand by. I really think there is a market that needs to be tapped And what it is is every time A brand has a logo or a name or a popcorn bucket or something They need a focus group of the most immature twelve year old. R Right, right. They need to they need to get a room full of twelve year old boys and just be like, tellell me what do you think? And it's always it's always going be a sex thing But like a lot of times the twelve year old boys will be wrong, but a lot of times they'll be right too. Yeah. you know, And then you're not like mass producing this foreskin cu You know, likeike it could have been L made on the realation lea things, you know? was the texture not as like Beuse it's kind of shiny. It's a little shiny in a way that's unfortunate. Yeah. the color is very fleshy. It That's the thing. You know, like like a pinkish tone, I feel like. It's not just like leather brown. Yeah, it doesn't look like leather That doesn't looks like sk. It's crazy. But it's very wrinkly It's like very clearly meant to be like this is like a wrinkly rumpled coat With a hood, Unfortunately Yeah there are more things that are wrinkly and have hoods. Yes. So it is u I will not be purchasing Actually actually to. No, I'm taking that back. This actually increases my chance of purchasing. so that I can show up to like pick my daughter up from school someday Oh I' really drinking out of it. I don't know what that one. Just chugging soyent. being likeant. ye Yeah. Wh soant? Think of the texture and the visual image. You're drinking soyant out of a For Okay. Okay, I see what you're It looks like. Okay. Yeah I was't gonna see is shoue That's fair. Yeah That's fair. But look, combined with the Dune hug bucket we have And having the the cup That that'll fit in cup the bucket real nice. M you know a great point. I think so. had that in mind. In the interest of entertainment, we may just have to do this unholiest of unholy popcorn bucket merch mashups This episode is brought to you by Street Easy. Here's the thing, Wanna be the grandparents who bolted to the Burbs or the cool relatives still living in NYC? The city that people come to to be at the center of everything. With twenty years at NYC know how, StreetEasy has the tools, agents, and guidance to make you a forever New Yorker too. Visit streeteasy dot com to buy a rent in NYC Street Easy is an assumed name of Zillow Inc, which has licenses in all fifty states This episode is brought to you by State Farm. 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And so I wonder if they're a little bit like We didn't mean to make it look like you could fuck it. you know, like U and they won't do it or if now they're going to lean into it and it's going to be like even wild You know, it's funny because Dune is like it does take itself so seriously. Yeah that having This was a goofy product that wasn't meant to be goofy. They thought like, o, a mouth of the word. intental camp But they might yeah, leaning into it would be funny, but leaning out of it also makes sense just because they're like, this is a serious movie for serious people. Yeah, which I get, I get. I love Dude. Dune two, I thought was so goddamn. Oh yeah, S Speaking of serious movies, serious people, let's talk about Spider Man. Of course got we got rumor that Spider Man's got a new trailer coming this week And if you may recall for the first trailer, they released like giftss worth of footage for it like, you know, every forty five minutes or whatever, the day before It seems like there's going to be some manner of of online thing like that for this this upcoming trailer. because there was the Tom Holland video that he posted on Spider Man' Twitter where he was like Around the world. We're going to be around the world, which is what they did of the first one. Yeah. L a random Spider Man fan accounts had a piece of footage from around the world And it was like I I don't know how I feel about this because I'll be real the first time. It was kind of fun and exciting for the first like three guys. And then I was like or how many guys are they going for? That's crazy. same thing with like what the Avengers Chairs announcement. Yeah. This is a lot of chs cool. And then at some point you're like, they gotta run out of chairs. How many How chairs are they going for? Yeah, I mean, the with Spider Man, you know, I think Sony's in kind of an interesting position right now because of the leaks from last week you know, like Andy The number of leaks and the rate at which those leaks spread certainly The rate of the spread at least certainly speaks to a kind of enthusiasm, you know, like it's I think those people would rather just be sharing the actual trailer and watching that, But like, you know, in lieu of that, they get these they get these leaks and they're very excited. So I think you know, on the one hand, it's probably strategic of Sony to try to tap into that They're just ye same thing they did last time. I don't think that buys them anything. You know, like we've kind of seen that Already from Yeah. I mean this time They added like the Spidey tracker Yeah, which was like I click on the website. It's just like a big screen, the little fun little Spider Man animations. I think the intention is I think the last time they did it, the way you found out who was next was the person would like tag the person on threads or it was like kind of difficult like like a Daisy chain relay kind of sitation. And it wasn Yeah. It was kind of weird and difficult to find where exactly it was going to be posted. I think the intention this time is to be easier, like the track will be easier O maybe the next person, like it'll be Indonesia. So you'll see an Indonesian account something about it, which I like because that's a lot more There's a lot more control and we can expect we know what to expect. Yeah. But again, at the same time I don't know how exciting seeing ero point five seconds of footage was every forty five minutes. Yeah And I think I kind of get it where because the main trailer was released I think just releasing the trailer may be a little like, we saw it, but it's official and it's whatever. So maybe they're trying to do something like fun. Yeah or maybe it'll be like I some cool behind the scenes snippets or something. That would be cool. you know would really cool I tend to I tend to enjoy at this stage of marketing, it's like, I'm already committed to seeing Spider Man You know it's like Like when we were in we saw Disclosure Day earlier, we'll talk about it later so that people who want to avoid spoilers have plenty of opportunity to click away. But there was a new trailer for the Odyssey you missed when you rudely left me on theater. I had to pee. You didn't invite I had to pee didn't invite You already peed. ye. You already pe. I could enjoy companionship. That's fair but on me. There was a new Odyssey trailer and it's like, you know U For me, I'm already committed seeing the Odyssey. I'm happy to see some new footage, especially like on a big screen Til one and a big screen's really fun O But it doesn't really move the needle for me. I think it might just be a, hey, if we can do something that's novel enough that you know, various media outlets pick it up and talk about the campaign. rightight. That might break through to the people who are maybe fans of those media outlets And it will give them a thing to report on other than just, hey, here's a new trailer That's true. I am a little It's weird because I think the campaign itself would be news enough that like a media outlet will like follow it. but I remember seeing it was either on a break room comments, New Rxers comment or somewhere where when the Ruser brothers talked about like secret that they're going to reveal, which was the coffee shop. but when they were slowly doing doing that There wass a comment that said like, well, I don't think the lay personerson would They wouldn't even know that this happened if it weren't for like new rock stars covering yet. Yeah. And so I guess maybe that's what they're going for. It's like people like new Rck stars or other outlets will make it bigger than it is. Yes. And it being an event like this may cause more people to talk about it.. I also wonder Like this will reach the fans because that's where people look for. Will the lay personerson who, you know are just walking around Jonny Q might go see brand new day. Yeah. Yeah. willill they Will this matter to them versus like a regular trailer.? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know I guess it doesn't matter. And also, you know, admittedly, we're speculating it might just be a regular trailer. Tom going like, we're gonna get a regular trailer. You know Um which is which is fine, but u But yeah. so u, so that's that's coming up this week, you know, we will u Depending on what the hullabu around the trailer release is, we might do a live stream on new Rock stars. Wh trailer comes out, we'll certainly be breaking it down over on newew Rock stars Eric is already doing research for it. So so yeah, so look forward to that O we're talking about trailers and leaks. There was a leaked bight scene from Doomsday. Oh yeah. whichich I did not watch because I would rather just see it. you know, like Yeah. This is my stance with ninety percent of leaks. But again, the speed with which it spread, I think really speaks to there being a little bit of a vacuum. Uh where normal marketing would go six months out from a movie release. That's the thing. It's like people the reason why people even care that they're leaking is because we're hungry You know, it's kind of kind of the Supply demand thing, the demand is really high.. You want more footage and whatnot. And so people are going out of their way to try and Assuming this is real they're going out of their way to hack in or get the footage Yeah because like the Spider Man stuff, granted, they did have Spider Man But first trailer, but I just think there's like some O They're not like feeding the fans enough stuff for them to be satisfied and they need to find it elsewhere. So like a black market is forming They need some place to h it in information market. Bically. ye. Yeah. yeah. I get that Um Yeah, so I' I'm not going to watch that leaked Doomuesday thing on at this point,'ve I've I've sat in this chair so many times It' been like trailer coming tomorrow and been wrong that now I will sit for longer and wait longer. Um But but yeah, I do think The Spider Man leaks and that leak happening in such close proximity. you know, does does speak a little bit to Hey people are hungry They will spread whatever they find, you may as well give them something good to find. you know. So I don't know. I don't I dont know Mar' thinking my trailer. They're not thinking, good guy. It must but you know, but you know what I mean?ike it's so easy to be like they're not thinking, but also they For as much as I have riding on this trailer, which is just I'm excited to see the movie and want to see a trailer. These guys have billions of dollars of budget on the line, you know? like This much is fair. So there's there's clearly Some strategy that we are not privy to Um, you know, where someone is going like Honestly, trust me first trailer drops in, you know, September or whatever for whatever reason. O we drop it with brand new dayay, or we drop it with the Odyssey. you know, There's there's some ye or Cicon McJackack. Yeah, there' still Cicon. Yeah, you know, like and D twenty three, you know Yeah they have other big opportunities to drop it where they might feel like they have a little bit more control of the narrative. They might be able to drop it alongside a lot of interviews and stuff. so it feels more like a full holy shit. everybody is talking about this kind of moment than it would otherwise I don't know. U I I do know it feels weird to have a trailer yet. You know, Marl's done this a couple of times before. I think like Thor Love and Thunder waited forever to drop a trailer? like Yes But that one I think they were reworking the movie a lot based on how the final movie. And that's also like Thor Yes. not movie. I mean you know, this is arguably Sixth Avengers movie or whatever. That's true like That's true U or fifth, I guess. I count Civil War as an Avengers movie and I knowally function functionally it is I agree. Okay, let's switch over to DC. The supergirl director, Craig Gesbie decided not to start with the comic book when developing the visual look for Supergirl went in later for inspiration. I think some people are a little bit miffed about this. Yeah, you know, And I kind of don't have a strong feeling on this either way. but I think it's an interesting conversation about Well, how Faithful, Do an adaptation need to be to the source material U you know, if Supergirl has, I don't know, a soda cup that looks like discarded foreskin in the comics Do we need one in real life You know, but u You know, because I do think like films a different medium, you know, like things that that really work in a comic book might not work in a movie, you know, like You know, so I don't necessarily I hate just starting from scratch. U But I get the impression there's a lot of people who think this is somehow. A measure of disrespect or a mark against the director for not being in touch enough with the source material, I don't read it that way myself Yeah, I It's it's one of these things where I think the big question that fans are like asking is, well, if it's not going to be visually or otherwise adapted from the comic book, whyy adapt it at all? Yeah Why even bring up the woman of tomorrow like I know originally it was a suuperirl wom went tomorrow they Knock down the woman tomorrow and it's just Supergirl. Yeah. you know, James Gunn did away with all the like Colin subtitle thing. But yeah, it is at that point could just make a new story U I understand the reasoning because The comic book U is a very vibrant and colorful and the way it's told in the comic book medium would be a different vibe than what the supergirl character we have now is like showing. because I think in the I forget out which exact article, but the director was saying like, you know, there's a more grittiness to Supergirl that from the original screenplay that he wanted to like adapt. And you can see that in the the trailers and such. likeike it's a more, even though it's the Guardians of Galaxy space it feels like a grimier but yeah, it's a lot grimier Alien versus Star Trek, where it's like, yeah, they's still out in outer space, but like these are like the blue colar guys who are fixing the pipesactly, you know. So I understand why if you were to Start from the source material that has a different vibe that may not mesh well with what the current version of the character is for the for the movies But I understand the frustration of like Cic fans they want to see their comic adapted, you know? likeike that's that's kind of like the fun of like, oh, I want to see what that would look like on the big screen. but it's just not that. So yeah, I get the frustration, but as Craig needed to do for this movie, I understand why he chose not to Yeah, I hear why people are frustrating. not I'm not blind to that. ' I'll do the same thing but with plot points. I'll be able The sense that Jamie Anannister would harm a kinman, you know, like But u, All right But yeah, I the thing for me is I think that Superhero movies have been so dominant. Uh for, you know, arguably since Iron Man, But for a minute now and that means that the genre itself is evolving and certain things that were not acceptable. you know, when we had the first X Men movie, they were all wearing like, you know, black leather because that was cool in the late nineties You know, and now we're allowed to have these kind of like more vibrant expressions of what the costumes and stuff looked like You know, the first several fantastic four movies they made just like were kind of set loosely modern and looked like trash. And then Matt Shakman was like, no, we're going to do kind of a weird like retrofuturistic take on space age, which I honestly don't know if audiences would have been ready for. So you know, in the conversation around like, well How far are we allowed to go with our adaptation I tend to skew on the side of like, Well, be looser with it. 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Shop now at Pommaloive dot com d If we knew more about our sleep, What will we do differently Would we go to bed at a consistent time or take steps to reduce interruptions to our sleep with Sleep score Apple Watch measures your bedtime consistency, interruptions, and sleep duration Every morning it combines these factors into an easy to understand score from one to one hundred So you'll know how to take the quality of your sleep from okay to. veryer high. Know your sleep score with Apple Watch iPhone eleven or later required U And so this doesn't this doesn't like cross like that line Yeah But but but I appreciate that there is like a pretty broad gray area there. you know. with you But yeah, so I thought that was pretty interesting Okay, and then uh Y'all know we're obsessed with obsession, it's so good A obsessed Cry is it Cirry Baker, Curriry Barker? I think Barker, I mistyped it It is Okay' not a baker. Okay,'s not a baker. So Cirry Baker is're talking about taking on the Texas chainsaw massacre. Yeah as his next film, which You know, I came to horror late in life Um because it would give my sister such nightmares that we couldn't watch it in the house. And I don't think either of my parents would have want to anyways, but I never saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre until like Maybe a decade ago. Less than a decade ago. wayay less than a decade, mayaybe like five years ago even. but I It is such a wild movie Because it's a slasher movie from before the like genre norms of slasher movies were established And so it has none of the rhythm you are expecting going into it And it its it's great. It's so good. I'm really excited to see what Um one, just I loved obsession. and you know, Cry Marker clearly has like a very like, you know, good sense of humor, but he's able to weave that into obsession without undercutting. Yeah. you know, I humor makes it feel more real in a way. And Texas Chanceome Massacre is not a humorous story You know, so I'm like curious to see like what those little moments are that kind of, you know, make this world feel like his versus the original. Yeah I I I like that Hollywood is continuing to give Curry Barker like more chances to develop himself as a director and head these big IPs. but I I think it's It's so interesting that they're taking the guy who came up with one of the most original concepts and making him well not making it, but offering him the chance to do an IP Yeah IP reboot So there's a little bit of the like Oh, I don't know if that was the right lesson that they're taking. U So they're trying to combine like an up and coming director with an IP they know it will succeed Whereas I think what people are craving that obsession is showing is like Good new IP. That's interesting And especially because I don't remember the exact quote, but there is a quote from Curry Barker specifically pointing out like Clearly there is a hunger for new IP. Yeah, we just need to be doing that Well And so I don't I don't think's hyprite. I think if someone offers you a lot of money to do an IP reboot, absolutely You take You take it a check. And also as an up and coming director. you want to prove yourself more. It's kind of like how like Christopher Nolan did Batman, you know, you're not saying like Batman is Everyone has been. But still it's an IP that He used, I think, like basically to like, Fund everything else. like you know, he's able to G some notoriety off of it. And I think in the same way, everyone knows Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's an opportunity for Curry It is it is still kind of In my soul disappointing to see Yet another reboot. Well, so we were we were talking about this a little bit in the parking lot before the movie. That was where I peed because Brian Jt Brian's like, I'm gonna to be in broom. I was like, I can ask by the car I peed on the car Otherwise, I wouldn'tna know it's her car. got my quest territory. You gotta know, your minds' un covered in piss. But we were talking about this a little bit about how, you know, u It's almost inevitable that a movie as profitable as obsession would wind up kind of like tingling every exact spidey senses to try to figure out like, well, how do we repeat that success And one of the things Hollywood has learned time and time again is that even though it is by no means guaranteed that a known franchis or known IP will be a successful or good film It reduces the risk because there are people who will come out to see it even if it's not good because they're fans of that IP specifically. you know Um And so with Curry Barker, I bet the thinking on the exact side of things The thinking on Curry Barker side of things I hope and I support is just Holy fuck I get to make another movie great, you know, like and I think if you're not If you've never been in the industry, you might not realize how fucking tenuous existence is and how like a bird in the hand And IP Bird M thehand is worth ten Indie films in the bush. You know, I wish it wasn't that way, but it is But I bet the execs are going like, well, Now he is a household name for horror fans And this is a household name for horror fans. and there's going to be some Venn diagram overlap of the two, but there's going to be a lot more splash zone where it's like young people who might not know Texas Chainsaw Massacre or older people who might not know Curry Yeah. And I think that's the that's the kind of the safety net exec mode of thinking that they're going into this way. Yeah. and I you know, I U understand that big companies need to have a lot of risk mitigation because if it's a flop, then that's a lot of people that can't be paid out. There's a lot of Overhead that needs to be u thought of so like, I get that they Once you get to a certain size, you do need to think about this stuff, but I still wish Dave ry another opportunity to do another cool original story. Al also say this like, you know, the reason they want to cut down on mis is O risk is because the budgets are so high. Right. One of the things that makes the budget so high are these long development times, which are caused B layers and layers and layers of execs, which are caused by mergers and acquisitions. you want to if you want to really mitigate risk, Don't do it by trying to juice the box office numbers by having a known IP Do it by getting rid of the exec layers and focusing on several smaller studios rather than these couple of lumbering conglomerates Why should a new up and coming filmmaker have to take a something that is like creatively safer in order to pay the salaries of six layers of execs above them? That That's the issue. Yeah. That's where the cost comes in, you know, like So I got no problem with Curry Barker doing this. I'm very genuinely excited for it. I got a lot of bones to pick with these like paramount and Netflixes and WBs of the world just Huging themselves up. It's no Good. Th theseese mergers need a stop Yes, O day we'll have a government that will stop it M not be today, but one day. No, O day. O day. probably not during my life U spepeaking about execs, fucking things up, Xbox is going through some troubling times right now. Asha Sharma has basically been on a charm offensive since coming in and taking over. There have been rumors that Microsoft is planning to sell off Xbox as its own entity. Really? that was like last week, I think I read that maybe Games Industry. is. And then earlier today, I'm probablyly gonna read that Xbox is about to go through a round of layoffs it looks like. And one of the studios are going shut down is compulsion games Wh made South of Midnight, game pass title, Really great, really good gameplay. Kind of like an action adventure platformer. set in, you know, like the deep south centered around like bllack mythology and like you're fighting haints and it was just like It was really fucking cool. Yeah. and it did well. it didid well numbers wise, it did well critically, and that's like still not enough And the reason it's not enough is because of all these execs making all the development hours go for longer because they got to come in with their two fucking cents after the fact. You know, I just let people make things How you all these years have you not l learned this lesson? I feel like this lesson has been taught. Thousands of times really not earning. The lesson that's taught to these people with MBAs is your job is to keep your job. You know Your salary is the product you need to make. It doesn't matter if you make your salary from like involing promises to VC capitalists.. It doesn't matter if you make your salary from getting like mom and pop investors with an IPO and selling in a low stock Your job is to keep your salary You know, like that's what the job is U Makes it infuriating. Makes you think it's infuriating. Okay, but anyways I just wanted to mention that because that it's it's always a shame when a The games industry in the past couple of years has been rocked by layoffs, just like one wave after another. And sometimes like you know, game stududios shut down and you're like Yeah You know, like sure you know, it not not everybody can live forever, you know, like And a lot of times those shutdowns wind up leading to like really creative cross pollinations of people from different teams and we get really fun stuff out of that Um, But this this is surprising given like how how critically acclaimed that game was. likeike it just it got a lot of really good buzs. Yeah. I think it's weird that like gaming as an industry is like Gigantic, huge It is yeah like the people say it's bigger than all the other like entertainment things combined almost Um, but I Also a place where I don't think people Microsoft as a company, because of the AI stuff, like that's where all their focus is on. That's all they care about that This this venture that is losing the money, they're just like, I don't know, we don't care enough to like really put effort into it. Yeah. So it looks like they're just going to lay people off and try to tryry to make the overhead of those as possible. Yeah. Kind of like how like Nvidia, when they were a graphics company, like GPUs for games and game consoles and whatnot That stuff just doesn't matter. It's a blip in their overall like revenue stream. Yeah. It is all It's like ninety nine percent AI stuff and one percent gaming. So it's like if they lost that, they don't care. Yeah't So they're doing what they can, I guess with what they have, but what they're doing is not Fun for the gamers. No I will say, no, don't like it. I want choice. Speaking of choice Today we chose to see Disclosure. Okay I see when you're going. Yeah, I get en So if you haven't seen Disclosure Day, we're gonna to talk about the whole movie. There will be spoilers, there will be thoughts Oh. Now is your chance to tune out. And if so Hey, thanks for watching We'll see you next week. But keep watching. Keep watching Keep watching. keep watching. I. just put us on you L going in the background. but for those of you who have already seen Disclosure Day or don't care about spers We're going into the movie, let let's talk about it. Vy briefly, Disclosure Day, Steven Spielberg film about revealing hard evidence that we have been visited by extraterrestrials to the planet Um What were your initial thoughts leaving the theater? Yeah And I will say, before I get into it Everything in life, there's gripes. But U I want to start with saying, I thought it was a great movie. I have Disclosure today. overall, a really strong movie. It captivated me the whole time. I will say several times I noticed you sitting next to me G I am granted, I am a very reactive was It was very funny because the only thing I reacted to was the knife. Oh yeah, bothoth of us were like. But then the rest of the movie cr even when I enjoy something, I sit there and I. you're observing it. Yeah, Yeahah yeah, I'm just processing. but it is so funny sing next to pry because the h you're like there's leing forward and like There's a lot of moments where they're like hinting at something and I'm like, oh, that's what they're saying. I you know few times I thought the two main characters were like, are they aliens the whole time? What did they say? I think you know, Spielberg He's a master at what he does for a reason. He knows how to captivate an audience There were some things that Eric pointed out like camera movements that were like really cool. A lot that scene of him getting into the car. Yeah ye. There was particularly this one thing where they were What was the big herter's name? Allright Kellman Kellen, Daniel Danielen or something. Yeah. Daniel Kellen Daniel or he, you know, he's hiding behind fences, which by the way How did he hide there? There was nothing covering him. Very, very silly. But the cameras are like swinging around going through the fences and then going to see him. I'm like, Well, that's really cool. Yeah. they're really I think Build is really good at using the equipment to be as dynamic as possible to be really engaging Um I thought overall they did a good job with U creating a lot of tension so that you aren't actually sure if the heroes are going to make it at the end. Yeah because there are a lot of spots where U There's a thing they need to do, but they get stopped and caught And so you're actually never sure the whole time like will they make it? And every single time something happens so that you're never sure that U they're going to make it, which is a lot of fun. It creates a dynamic that's like Are they gonna do it? I don't know. Yeah. and I think overall, that's how I feel. It was a great ride. U but this is where the grapes come in As a movie, something Eric said in the office was like this would have banged harder maybe like twenty years ago. And I think I hundred percent agree with that It's a movie where Uh, it's H of You have to believe in what the movie believes that people react to, like how amazing of a concept aliens are. Well it was a very one of the things I love about Spielberg. I'll say, Brian liked the movie more than I did. I liked it. I liked it fine. Yeah I didn't hate it by any stretch of the imagination, but I kind of my favorite part was sort of that like last twenty minutes. Sure ye. I wanted that to be like more of a movie. Emily Blunt is fantastic. Yes. She's so good. Coleman Domingo is so fucking good. L for me the two of them like steal the show. but u But you know, yeah, I think Spielberg is think he is really talented at approaching H more fantastical subjects, you know Jaws, ET, Jurassic Park, cllose encounters, you know, like with this kind of like childlike wonder and sometimes those things turn out to be like, you know, terrifying or whatever But I think he is really good at tapping into that kind of Um almost naive sense of, you know how how things feel and with disclosure dayay He kind of expands that viewpoint to include Everyone in the world And so it's one of those things you like, well, yeah, I think as a culture, we were a little bit more All Optimistic and wide eyed twenty years ago but also personally I have grown so cynical of life Yeah. I'm gonna to watch the news. and be like you know, like that's I'm gonna to have I'm gonna have CNN on I'm gonna have I'm going to an airplane with CNN on a live feed, you know, like you know, I ye and that might be me, you know, but u Ultimately, that's a pretty minor gripe U You know, I think the things the movie did really well W I think the villains were really good. you know, and there was no one mustache twirling. and I think there was some really good moral gray area with the main character where people would kind of challenge him on like Why are you doing this? Yeah Um You know, that I thought was I thought it was touched on. It didn't need to be like a whole act of the movie of handwringing. We know he's going to do it. But I think the fact that the movie at least questioned it in places was like kind of interesting in its own way There was a subplot involving his girlfriend Jane who had used to be a nun and so like, you know, her faith was kind of being challenged with this that To me, I thought was interesting on its own, but didn't fit in with the rest of the movie You know, and there was I don't remember if it was a sci fi story I was reading or it might have been this book I was reading about Like the sociological underpinnings we'd need to build a generationship, Star Arc Check it out Uh, but on. One of these books was talking about like the crisis of theology that like a lot of the Judeo Christian religions would have if presented with definitive evidence of extraterrestrials U And I was like, o, that's like a really interesting conversation. This movie has enough other things it's trying to do that it It couldn't really give the right amount of space to that. That's like a much more Contemplative like, you know, A twenty four take on sci fi Um And it just felt a little out of place to me. but I thought it was interesting, you know. Yeah, there's this I think part of that is like, it is a very I don't know, maybe I guess like nineties, eighties, two thousands. actually pre two thousands. But feeling of like Yeah, this stuff is going to be u Like the way people thought about aliens was a lot different back then than it is now. Yeah to the point where That's why watching a movie I had to force myself to get into the mindset of a person or of a world where findinding aliens would be world shatterered Um, but it's just I think that's the part that we probably agree with that is the most minus in this movie is that like That doesn't that's not a world that we live in And this is a this is presenting like it's like our world. People these days are not going to be as shattered if this kind of news comes to light. because there was there's a core problem of like Something is a truth But can people handle it I I genuinely daughter These are on the air B know, you're live, I'm on camera. I'm going to call you back later All right, love you bed, byye Oh nice. Yeah Do it? Just want to let her another got it go here? Yeah Allright I I was going to say, oh, but yeah, with, with people reacting to the news, you know, I I think that we I read a really fascinating book a couple of years ago called the Disinformation Age. And it was sort of examining the ways in which people choose to believe a source of truth and the kinds of Mental gymnastics a lot of people unknowingly go to in choosing those sources of truth. You know, there's you could trust an expert, you could trust a consensus, right? Like there's a difference between saying a movie is good because your favorite reviewer liked it and a difference between saying it's good because it got a good rotten tomatoes score. You know, and all this stuff And Kind of what's happened certainly in the past decade and probably would have been happening anyways eventually, but certainly was turbocharged by American politics, is this like complete erosion of truth, just just a parade of lies and falsehoods and half truths that like the media can't even keep up And so in that environment, Seeing footage of aliens, I'd be like, o, it's probably aot Yeah, you know I the movie did try to address that. Yeah ye. where they were like when they showed the alien footage, there was like real pixels found. Ground truth. I'm like, what does this What does that mean? Yeah Ground truth pixels detected. So heres here's the real question U Do you think there are aliens? if the answer is no, why? If the answer is yes, why I am team aliads are real just because it's like a mathematical thing. Like it's just the sheer number of Uh stars, planets and whatnot and like the proximity to the sun and all that stuff There I just find mathematically, there's no way there's only one singular place that has life on it. Yeah Qion mark on whether or not there is a lot of intelligent life. Yeah It's possible that intelligent life, as humanity knows it, is an anomaly. Maybe most planets are like mostly animal And granted, in the grand scheme of billions of years of this planet, we are a very small g. So it's possible that everyone else is just need the amount of intelligence for their life to happen But I am team aliens They just mathematically must exist. Yeah And this is also why in the movie, U Because I think a lot of people are like me or like There must be aliens. We just don't know, or maybe they're not intelligent. that if I saw evidence, I'd be like, Oh, I'm right. There are aliens. And not really be like, my mind is there aliens. Everything I know is a lie. because the other aspect is it' government hiding stuff That's like The government is h that's not like how could they hide aliens from us?'t trust the government. I trust the government. L, I'm sorry. It's like We don't trust the government. I haven't trust the government since before nine eleven. I'm saye. I'm saye. I't trust the government went away a long time ago. The trust is so low Yeah Okay, first of all, when we found out the government was covering up an international pedophile ring and we're all like, well, I don't know. I can't know with that the gas prices are too high. Legitimately a post Epstein file world It this is like That's more mind boggling, the fact that the government is hiding something so Devastating like this versus aliens? Yeah He aliens is kind of like a blip in that radar My And which is why I get that they needed Again, which is why this would have hit way harder twenty years ago. Right before when people did have trust in the government Yeah to belie be like, whoa, government is hiding things from us.'s like It's so common knowledge that government is hiding things from us And Conspiracies today are even crazier than aliens. That is just a thing I couldn't escape while watching the movie is so First off to answer my side the. Yes. That's what I wanted to do Same page, mathematically, nothing in the universe happens once. Yeah. I'm not even convinced that there was only one genesis of life on Earth I think it's possible that the same I think there is a very interesting boundary between Geochemistry and biochemistry And I think we haven't quite figured out exactly We don't really have a hard boundary on what counts as life. Our viruses alive, you know Um But I think the processes that happen in planetary formation are certainly common and seem to be universal I think the processes that lead to life are just a thing that kind of need time and the right mix of elements. I think with the preponderance of planets out there that we know about definitively let alone the preponderance we can't observe that we know about mathematically, it's got to be the case And I'll go one step further I think that actually I'll pull this up here. So my my desktop My desktop photo is a picture of a moon of Saturn called Enceladus. I think there's aliens on Ennceladus I don't think I don't think they're intelligent. I don't think they're visit. But I think there's some kind of bacterial life in the subsurface ocean on itsself. I would be very surprised. Yeah if we found definitive evidence that there wasn't. So that's that's kind of my stance on Aens. I don't think they've visited us. Oh, but when I was in high school, I really Like, there's a book by Paradox press called The Big Book of the Unexplained and another book called The Big Book of Conspiracies. and they are basically graphic novel, like visual encyclopedias of like conspiracy theories and like Back when when conspiracy theories were fun You know, when you were like a lot of people who knew about the JFK assassination died in weird ways, you know, as opposed to like Pizza Gate, you know, you know, like it's yeah. there's a real shift and, you know, it used to be like, oh, there's a moth man out there somewhere and some people know about him, you know So I believed really hard in all that stuff genenuinely tried to get the arrmy to recruit me my senior year of high school Because I was a physics nerd and I was like, I know what you're doing at arerea fifty one. I can help you I can help you ase engineer The army stood me up. I came up with such a bad energy that the army was like just let me, you know, like that that kid. We don't want to deal with that kid. L his grades are okay, but like we don't want to deal with them. you know, So watching the movie was was kind of interesting for me because I there was a part of me that was like Yeah, I can I can tap into from my own personal experience, that feeling of like this this sense that something's being hidden that there is a truth, you know, like, I don't feel particularly alone in the universe on a day to day basis such that finding out that I'm not would really change that. I think my reaction to it would be a little bit more like accademic, you know, Yeah Like I got I got really excited in twenty seventeen when LIGO discovered gravitational waves You know, like that'sly like a bigger deal, you know, u for humans unless you get into like a mass effect type thing where it's like, you've been invited to the citadel.. We'll put a Kroogan in your home. or whatever. But yeah, so yeah, I liked the movie. I feel like I'm complaining about it a lot. I enjoyed it while watching it. Yeah. I think just for What the I think part of it is my feeling on it leaving the theater is like I had the expectation from the trailers, and I think this might be me reading into the trailers so I'm not trying to accuse the film of false advertising But I had the expectation from the trailers that the reveal to the world would happen a lot earlier and we'd see a lot more of the fallout. And I think That sequence where that finally happens like I don't know the name and it might be an actual CNN anchor U of the actress who plays the like New York CNN anchor who's watching this stuff in real time and going like, I don't know how to explain what I'm seeing to you. like know yada yada, Zach still So accurate to me. like that that that woman trying to struggle between like you know, journalistic professionalism and just like her own shock and knowing that she's on camera like That that performance was so rich. And again, this person's in the movie for five minutes. They're not in it for very much, but it's I thought that performance was so compelling And that was where I thought that Spielberg really, really hit the nail on the head in a great way. of kind of expressing what his sense of child likeke wonder would look like applied to a more public discovery of something. You know Um And so I just wanted to live in that phase of the movie more. and we spent the whole movie getting to that point. It felt a little more like a Coda That's fine. You know, I think the story that was being told along the way More like an Emily Blunt story than I'm blank it on the actor's name. Josh O'cnor. Josh O'Cnor Yes But more like an Emily Blunt story than a Josh O'Connor story to me. And I think that was just by strength of performance and the character was better written hadad more to do You know, so the times when Emily Bunt wasn't on camera was like, we gott to figure out what's going on with this weather lady. Yeah, yeah, yeah. you know, but she's such a good. that like, you know, in the first time you meet her, her character is almost clownish. She's doing like the weather shiny, you know, she's having this weird conversation with Wyatt Russell where she's walking around these floppy pieces of bread. she's like in the middle of maked toast and like you can feel Emily blunt knowing that that's a little silly and like gesturing with that. you know And and then she goes through this thing where like she thinks she's maybe having a stroke, like her Her performance Re, really was fantastic. And I think that really anchored the movie for me. I wonder if the Josh O'Connor character had been written like a little bit more in depth or they had given him a little bit more sort of Interesting that kind of her brain waking up to its alien possibilities point of view, like if they had both kind of caught bug at the same time Yeah, you know, because by the time we meet him, he's already kind of Hes learned eaking math, you know. But yeah, he was already in he had that alien part of it. although like Math. I I get they're saying like it's theanguage of the universe, but it's less like Fantastical. It's a little bit harder to represent you know, which I get. But yeah, so I really liked it. It's just my favorite part of it was the end. and I think it's a testament to the movie that when it ended, I was like, D. You know. That's the best part. Yeah, ye Yeah, I it's I'm you know, I think I'm a little Lost and where I like feel because I think it's a question of whether a piece of media and art if Y Speaking to the times, like how much of that matters because I think isolated in a vacuum This is a really interesting story and especially as one, it's almost a fantastical version of our world where yees, Steven Bpielberg's version of the world is where we're all still like glassy or glassy eyed Yeah we stoned. Rw stoned and Eone' like whoa, Aliens are so cool. Everyone's just doing a little bit of like put my phone down somewhere and I got distracted. But in a world where everyone still trusts the government, a world where everyone is on their phones looking at the thing that's like they're enamored by something spectacular You kind of like presented that world to us, which is interestnteresting. but It's just not reflective of our current lived experience Yeah. that it's just like, I don't even know You know, it's kind of one of those things where the first zombie movie was like, oh my God. look at the concept of zombies and this idea of like consumerism and how it hungers endless hunger and how we can escape that. Really cool, interesting fififti a zombie movie, we're like Yeah get I get. Whereas if that fiftieth movie happened to be the first movie, I'm sure we would have felt this like differently Yeah. It it's the same thing with this. We've had so many really cool and interesting alien movies. U And we talked about an office arri arrival Projectail M Project tail Mary Really cool interpretations of alias and how they talk to us This Being the Roswell like Gay Gay. B head guys You know, I get that that he wanted like Spielberg wanted to like make Roswald real and that's why he had to use that imagery. but It kind of made it like We're so ahead of the times of alien stuff and other media. Yeah it just felt a little a little dated. It's a little dated, it's a little feels naiveive almost. where In this world post like post truth, post. U Cynicism like where everyone in the world is cynical. Nobody trusts the government. noobody trusts anything going on that The movie feels detach from it And so It doesn't speak to our current truth in a way that's, I think, profound But it is a good movie. in a vacuum But we don'tve in a vacuum. So I don't, you know Yeah, it's like it's, you know,, no art is truly inseparable from its context. and yet inevitably it will be, right? Like, you know, there's there's going to be someone who watches this movie you know I was just trying to explain this documentary to my wife last night. John Berger ways of seeing. Okay. Go look it up. It's all on YouTube. The first episode iss going to be the relevant one I've seen here, but like You know, it used to be the case that if you want to see a famous oil painting, you'd have to like travel to one of the major cities in Europe and it would be in this gilded frame and this like gallery and there'd be marble and all this stuff And now like it might be, you know, something you see on Google images while next to like whatever film You're looking up. What You're probably looking up Mona Lisa N. Okay I was like, what filth can you see that has both of these things combined? I could find one of them and one frame. Give me half an hour an amnesty from our HR policies and I can I can do it. I'll grant it. I that power, but I'll grant it. You know, And so right now, like we're living in this context, but it might be the case that like this is a movie that you know, maybe like my daughter's generation will discover and T ten, twenty years when people feel differently about the government and be like, oh man, this is like really kind of interesting. like, you know Uh, and I bet you there's also a lot of people who are just like you know, into it for the pure escapism of it and, you know, aren't really looking for it to be a reflection of the world around them. They're specifically looking for it to not be Yeah's also a a valid angle of approach U it's kind of like there's a storytelling that a lot of media had done for a while, kind of like like everything every roll at once and turning red and all these things where there's this generational trauma, but then the parents kind of apologize or whatever. and it's like that doesn't happen often in real life, but it's like a fantasy version where that does happen. Yeah. And so we get to see that play out. like that kind of catharsis. And so in that same way, the movie is providing a catharsis U ye a world that would be shocked by some new like new truth that exists Yeah, maybe that's the point of the movie notot like, Hey, there are aliens, there There aren't aliens, trust goverment, don'tust the goverment.'s just like Be I mean the ending the movie ends on Emily Blunt's character basically channeling the aliens saying, listen. Yeah, Yeah. And like I think maybe that's the point is like, hey, shed your cynicism and just be open to wonder because like it's nice on its own Yeah, true. I also the that final line, listen, I don't know this for sure, but I think it's a reference to an Allan Watts. thing because Alan Watts had this lecture he gave where it was like, you know, in the late sixties and you know, we were fully invested in the space race at that point. he was saying like, you know There's no need for us to go out into space We're already out in space We just need to listen, you know, like this was like right before all the big radio antennas were set up and You know, it's obviously pre Hubble and, you know, all these like kind of space based telescopes and that sort of thing. But that was kind of what resonated with me Again, I really liked that last like chunk of the movie I was like, oh, man, if that was the whole movie, you know, like Um But I think that that liston might just be like that, yeah, you're cynical because you think you know how it's going to fucking go. And you might be right a lot of the times, but still Israel ennjoyed the movie Overall good experience It does It didn't resonate, I guess for me. It was lacking a fuckable popcorn bucket. Exactly. That's exact. If they had the Roswell has a popcorn bucket with a clear cut where their mouth is, thenan I'd be like movie. I've been to Area fifty one. Whoa, I shit you not. So years ago, there was a Simon Pegg and Nick Frost movie called H that came out where like the two of them are kind of like losers and they they pick up an alien crashes who is also kind. ye, yeah. I've actually never seen the film, but A friend of mine was working at Funny or Die at that point in time And the movie, the company that produced Paul did an influencers junk it for all these digital media outlets, which at the time were still comparatively You know, like we were there, College Humor was there. You know, a couple other like, I think Twitter was new. I remember like some really irritating digital media people on the RV ride from LA to out in the middle nowhere where area fifty one is. They're irritating then, I can't even imagine it was they were like,'s let's all jump on a hashtag. Let's all jump on a hashtag Shop the fuck up. But so we shot this thing with Simon Peg and Nick Frost and then we were allowed to just go up to the gate of Aa fifty one and take pictures on like it was pre smartphones. So it was like on a c phone. You know, um, And u The That that weekend kindind of annoying K kind of annoying. Lucked out with our RV assignment. We were assigned with very like chill people, but But they they parked us in the middle of nowhere outside of arerea fifty one. There's literally nothing but a bar with some of like the most bigoted bumper stickers I've ever seen just plastering the wall. People who are really upset that Clinton was going to allow gays in the military like that that level of, you know U What are they doing this? But at night We heard these weird booms and we went outside and they were testing They had these weird flares they'd shoot up and they were testing these u planes or something that would like fly through them and it was like I understand why if you lived in the desert and you heard those sounds and saw those weird red lights You would be like, ye, I don't know, man. you know I will say there is still a weirdness to like government stuff that I think the movie does tap into and and the fun of You know, I think what a lot of conspiracy theorists, like why they are conspiracy theorists too is that like it's kind of fun to feel like the person discovering things. and then like Disseminating that information to the world.. And I think there's part of that fantasy in there. Yeah. there's like that fantasy. There's also the like main character finding your place and purpose fantasy. Yeah, being chosen. being chosen. There's a lot of these things that the movie hits. I think if we were to rate this movie and I don't like the numberers scale because numbers are weird and people think differently. Out of like A through F, you think, where would you stamp this movie Man, it's tough because I've seen Spielberg's eggs. right U he's arguably in a hole, is he You know, It's the best possible way. but like you if this movie wasn't directed by Steven Spielberg and I wasn't watching it through the lens of knowing The dizzying highs of Jaws in Jurassic Park and Mority report I think I would rate it differently honestly I think if this was from a director I didn't know, I think I would rate it higher. I think specifically because it's Spielberg I go like Well It's not it's not a tier for him. You know, and I can't remove him from the equation because it's his movie I'd say it's probably like A solid bee Probably not a B minus, but like a solid a solid B. It's it's fun, it's great I probably won't think about it six months from. Yeah. honestly, even though I was very hot on it in the beginning, I think I'm about the same actually. I'm not trying to cool you on it. I'm just saying I can't please. all I feel is water and ice from your direction. and I'm like I can't you know, I can't put it on the same tier as Jurassic Park, which is like one of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah because it's just It's just not up there But it's by no means a bad movie. There's There's things in it I bump on, but like it's it's incredibly well made. Y. You know, like he's he's obviously an incredibly I mean, Steven Spielberg asleep at the wheel is probably still a better directer than most people will ever be in their entire lives, you know, Um By way I was also, even before the discussion, I would have rated it around like a B plus. Yeah I thought it was a solid craft But again, you just For me too, you cannot interpret art away from the context that it lives in. There's just no point. there's no, there's no objective way to view anything. Yeah. It is it does matter When you see it, how you see it, the context in what you see the context you bring to it be yeah, it's not just the intention the filmmaker had, it's the impression they leave on you and that interaction is shaped by all kinds. Yeah, exactly So solid B to B plus, and that is objective. Well I forget what I said about subjectivity. We are the objective knowers of what we're repent. We know exactly what's going on. Rad. Well, okay, I think we're kind of nearing the end of the time. I forgot to check this on we came in But I forgot to check into the beginning with Brian's corner, Brian's room. Is there anything that you've been Reading, watching, playing, consuming in your in your off time that like particularly stands out to you in this past week. I this past week recently, I'm continuing to read abundance and the more I read it, the more I'm like, this is an interesting book about the inefficiencies of government and why I All these protections may be antithetical to the ultimate goal. It's like, wow, cool. Yeah Very interesting stuff, but I guess just because we're in Brian Corner and for those of you who stayed who might care Um I talked about this before where I wanted to launch a video game essay channel. Yeah but I finally like made the channel fiance built out like graphics for it. Yeah. like the profile, we have a little header. And so all I need to do is make the videos now. Yeah make the videos now Yeah. which I do have the first video I made I'm actually basically done with it. Oh I just need to do like final edits and a I'm gonna do like an outro being like, what subscribe to this channel, blah, blah, blah blah. But otherwise, essentially done, I want to post my first video sometime this week. And it's just something really I like talking about video games. I like talking about the context of video games. This one specifically is about Fudian games or rage games If you guys know what that is. I don't know Do you know getting over it with Bennet Audi? Oh he was a guy with Yes, Yes. and baby steps and Yeah all that stuff. And he did cap. Yes, the cap. Yes. But you know, he birth that genre of game of like game that is infuriating to control and also intentionally destroys your progress Yeah. And my question I present is like, why do people play this? Yeah. And most people when you ask that question and when you look it up, it's like challenges are really like humans love challenges. and it's fun to overcome them. but I'm like Challenges were by itself, there are difficult games that doesn't destroy your progress the same way that rage games do. Yeah. So there must be something more to that than just I'm challenged by this. Yeah, yeah. And so this video is going to be me diving into like why I think people still play that game, even though other difficult games exist. Yes. could be over there playing Silk Song. Yeah. Silk Song is difficult. All of the Dark Souls series is difficult. Yeah. be playing Mooncat For those of you who played UFO fifty go play Mooncat Mooncat I haven't played but that sounds great. Epo fifty is so good. And also even like bullet hell games. L there are different games that have challenge built in that is not the same as a rage game. Benifoti is also such an interesting person because I think that I think Many video games are art. I think just as many video games are products You know, like in the way that everything is many movies are art, not all are art, you know. But Bennet Fodi Fodi is one of the creators, I'd say along with like Lucas Pope. are like the only two I can immediately think of where every game they make feels so specifically designed to like elicit a certain sense of emotions and to be in conversation with the player about that. you know, Lucas Pooked did papers please and I. haveave you ever played Return of the Obrah Din? U I didn't personally, but my fiancee loves that game. It's fucking great. Okay, Yeahah, well tell Whitney to leave you and I'll time has to leave me and okay go be a little mismatching. We can't just play through it together as f Of course off course has to have you. It has to be you need in order to make a video game interesting, you need the stress of if we don't get over this argument about inventory space, it could ruin relationship. That's got b That's gota be a piece of it. That's the spice of life. Well, that's right. Well, I hope let me know when you post that. Yeah sure. And I'll let other people know. I want to it's I like talking about my video games. I want a space to do more directly like that anythingthing interesting in Birg Rom? I mean, I mentioned that I read so many, I spent the whole weekend reading books and one of the things is a nerd I am a nerd. yeah. mean evenven by my standards Even my wife who lives with me and has lived with me for years patiently puts up with every square wall in our house turning into a bookshelf a given time. Our bookshelves are like a fungus that creeps across, you know Howetic. But thank you But so anywways, so read I read a couple books on Wales this weekend and then this book on Final Fantasy VI, which is mostly about the music of Final Fantasy V, which is interesting But then I picked up this book on tattoos which I had bought Um Probably in a fever dream of gotta use the promo code, you know, but But I bought this book on tattoos on Polynesian tattoo culture because I got a tattoo in Tahiti when I was in college Um And at the time I was like, Helly yeah, it'sick asll. I got a tribal turtle on my arm And then, you know, as I grew older and conversations about appropriation and like, you know, that sort of stuff started entering my sphere, I started going like,h I kind of want to understand the context in which I as a white man from Connecticut was able to get a tattoo and mot Rea and like, you know, have it around. So I picked up this book, but I I was surprised at how academic the book was. It's Some chapters of it are art history, some chapters of it are ethnography. There's you know, a whole chapter where they're like, hey, all of these records and drawings from a specific Russian expedition to. the South Pacific were recently like kind of unearthed and reassembled. and so becausecause of that we're able to trace the gen genealogy of this one specific royal family together and get a better sense of their tattoos Really, really fascinating. But the kind of cornerstone of the book is challenging the traditional narrative that Tattooing blew up in Europe as a result of Captain Cook's expedition to the South Pacific in seventeen. seventy or maybe late seventeen sixties. but The book was going like, there were other expeditions to the South Pacific that saw people with tattoos, came back, didn't have the same impact. What changed and what was different about this encounter between these people and this crew that kind of led to this proliferation of tattoo culture in a way that hadn't been seen in the couple hundred years prior in Europe. You know, and it's it's just been I was not I picked it up thinking that I'd like just finished reading a book about video game music. I was like, hell yeah, now I get some pretty pictures as before. And it wound up being like very dense, but like so much more fascinating than I was ready for. And I'm just I read a lot of books to the end that I don't like Squirrel book Uh because I because I canntot finish a book. And so when I pick up a book and it's not what I was expecting in a direction that's like So fascinating. Yeah I love it. You know, like it's it's really I have no context in art history or ethnography or anything to like apply to this, so I'm I'm kind of having to look a lot of stuff up, but I like how challenging and interesting I love it. I mean As with a lot of things that humans do, I think it's always interesting to figure out like Fascin fascinating stuff. Yes.. That's awesome. Yeah, super cool, super cool Recommendation. You guys pick up your next tattoo book. Yeah, I wish I could tell you what the book was. It's just called Tattoo. And then there's a long subtitle that explains what it is like You know, likeike but I don't know the subtitle. I know the title is tattoo. you know tattoo book. Yeah, you get it I know. U Okay, so u That's it for us today. Make sure to like this video, subscribe to the Bakam Channel on YouTube. Give us a follow on Twitch. Some of you are here with us on Twitch right now I'll come check back in with you in a minute where we do these videos live. If you want to support us directly, consider buying someerch from ndride. shot We are break rooms going through a transition phase. We're going to like roll out like a new look in a couple of weeks. 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