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When you go out there, those fumes are extremely toxic. You're inhaling all the polyesters, all the whatever lithium stuff is on fire. I have two air purifiers in my room Bad idea to turn them on. I mean Be they would suck air into the room. But they would also be cleaning the smoke. They would be. They I don't know, what is the strategy? You're gonna die. That's. Welcome back to the Checkup podcast where today I'm speaking to Jason Patton, otherwise known as Fire Department Chronicles. He's the most followed firefighter in the world and for good reason You probably know Jason's viral and hilarious video is recapping bizarre encounters he's had out in the field as a first responder or from his series on YouTube where he greenscreens himself into firefighter shows and calls them out for their BS face to face. He's easily one of the most charismatic people we've had on the show, but also rich in substance He's not just some comedy influencer, he's an actual multiye veteran of fighting fires and treating patients on the front lines with an incredible amount of insight into the profession. We touched on juicy topics like how much firefighters actually get paid, how to stay safe during a fire, controversial topics like private firefighters for celebrities, and even silly topics like the pain of sliding down the Of course, the basics. Just to set the ground rules straight off jump If I catch on fire mid episode, is it stop drop and roll or are there different strategies now? Stop drop and roll, but I mean How long do you want me to let you stay on fire? No minimal becausecause I don't have the fire suit on. Okay, okay. I don't know if this would an epic video Dude, I still think about the training that I got when I was in middle school in Brooklyn of dare, stop drop and roll any of these things been upgraded or is it still the same tried and true? Because I think about it from a chest compression CPR standpint Is there anything new that folks need to know No personal safety. No, stop dri roll is great because you're doing the basic things.'re're rolling on top of the fire, so you're hopefully able to remove the oxygen from. It's funny because you're right in the medical field things tend to change constantly. E every four years they're finding out something new. We're adding one extra compression in now. But firefighting idi At a constant basis, we're trying to make things as efficient as possible, save as many lives as possible. You look at old firefighting pieces or at least when we were training, you know we do forcecible entry, we werere moving into a structure. And there wasn't a huge emphasis on once you open up that front door with whatever you're using, make sure you close it as quickly as possible until you're ready to go in with the nozzle, it was just open the door, get in there, fight the fire. but we started to really dive into things called a flow path. So you know ye, if we're opening up the front door to go inside of it and we just leave it wide open. if that fire happens to be starved of oxygen, then it's going to get a nice influx of oxygen. And then fire really loves O two loves oyen so it's going start movingward that as well. So you create what's called a flow path. So we know if there's a viable victim in that area, we got to make sure we're opening the door, closing until they're ready to go in with the fire hose or the stretch of line in there and then go from there. Yeah what does it take to become a firefighter? Because you know kids frequently say top three jobs, doctor, firefighter police officer, maybe cowboy throwown in there or astronaut, but those are the top ones. So what does it take to c? First off I've learned what it t to aowboy an astonaut, I'm proro. Yeah. No you're smart enough to be an astronaut. No. I thought you just didn't like the zero gravity. No, I would love that.. I always say if I could if I ever get that chance, if it ever becomes affordable and I'm not going to die in the process O if I do, that would be an epic way to go off. But you and Jeff Bezos just floating around hanging out, man. It depends on where you're at. So where I'm at, in order to become a firefighter, you need to be an EMT first. The reason is a lot of the calls are going to be running to about eighty five percent of them are going to be medically based. so reallyally Yeah So This is breaking news. Firefighters, eighty five percent of the time are not fighting fires. Surprisingly not. You know you would think, well, it's amazing with new building constructions, especially down in Florida, smoke detect, I'm sorry, sprinkler systems, people finding ways to be able to put out fires on their own, whether it's through extinguishers, but people have found a very good way to be able to prevent fires through proper construction So and then obviously, in Florida for us, space heaters, we don't have anything like that Most of your fires in Florida are going to be kitchen based or cooking based So for us, you're going to go to MMT school first then you're going to go to fire school So Florida, every place is a little bit different U With Florida, you actually have to put yourself through fire school and EMT school then apply for a fire department and then you can be hired for most of the departments are going to be there. Places like New York, you can be picked up just straight off the street. so a citizen can apply and then FDMY will put you through all of their processes or the surrounding departments. Is that because's more in demand here No, it'sh it's just the way that they that different strategies and different ways to do it. Every place is going to have their own way of doing it. I'm curious because in medical school, you go through medical school, you pay your way so expensive. And then we have something that's known as the match, where you rank certain programs and then they rank students that they like. And sometimes you don't match and that's heartbreaking because now you have nowhere to go and you spend all this money Does that happen where you put yourself to the schools and then no one picks you up? Yes. No way. Oh my God. Yeah. So I got hired in two thousand eight. It was during the hiring freeze My mom still talks about this today. So I get through fire I put myself through EMT through paramedic school, then through fire school grraduate fire school at my closing ceremony, this incredible guy comes up, He starts's a chief. He starts giving this a speech. Ladies and gentlemen it's two thousand eight This many people, this many firefighters have died in the line of duty over the last year and you are in the worst hiring freeze that we've ever heard of Oh look.. W this meant to be inspiration? I don't know Bro, all of us are like, o, no, That would' have been a good orientation speech to weed out people who aren't serious maybe. Yeah, ye. Oh, so what what are you thinking in that moment? crap, is this So I my instructor, a great guy namedri Weiss, he's The day before her graduation sheays, Hey, listen, I work for a department Im retired from a partart in Rivier Beach and they're opening up their applications. They're actually closing the day after we graduate So if you want, I would apply. And at the time, they were actually one of the lowest paid in South Florida. And a lot of people were like,h I'm not going to go work for a placeac. It was thirty seven thousand dollars a year to a firefighter, not going to paid a lot anyways. seventy percent of firefighters are actually volunteers. so most people are doing it for free So I was like, you know what? I'm going work anywhere and everywhere. So I applied, I actually got picked up. No one else in my class got hired for another five years after that. Is it because you had the best grades? didid the most push upps? What are they grading you on? All the above. Really? No No Well, I don't know that's's like medical school. Is that way to medical school? By the way, the match thing, what is that I'm curious. Yeah what does that feel like if you're like, I want to be a cardiologist or I want to be this and they're like, no, you're gonna be a podiatrist. Yeah So you pick the two fields that don't necessarily participate in the mas. Okay. This is specifically the two because to be a cardiologist, you first have to match into internal medicine. Okay. And then once you finish your internal medicine residency then you could do a fellowship in cardiology. And podiatry, they have their own medical school. You pick the two and don't participate. So any other ones like plastic surgery or surgery What's another simple example. OBGY . OkayK, okay. So if you want to go into those Genally, you have some sort of sense putting names into the match process off who you like? where you didid your electives. so they know you. you know them. Okay there's kind of an understood boundary of we can't tell you that we ranked you, but we really like you. Okay And you already kind of know. Yeah. if you're not well liked and you did a really bad job on your electives and people are like, o my god, I don't want to work with you You can get into a bad place. So that's scary. Yeah. because Then we have something known as Is it called the Scramble? I forgot the name of it. Clearly I didn't particip in a scrap show. Y it is where you have to then try and find spots because just like students can go unmatched, spots can go unmatched. So programs that perhaps pay less less desirable specialties Sor family medicine will have openings Okay and then you can try and scramble into those openings. So literally program directors are calling students who didn't match, students are calling program directors presenting themselves and hopefully finding a situation where they can get into it. But if they don't Off here to go do some research Maybe take a long vacation and hope you match the following year. That's crazy. Yeah. And imagine now you're like three hundred thousand in debt. I was gonna say. U with us, like, so That's a lot of the issues right now with with places where you have to put yourself through the schooling in order to get picked up Because you know, EMT school's five thousand dollars, you know, depending on how long school. EMT school is somewhere between three to six months. It depends on if you're going full time or part time. I was three months. Fire school is somewhere between three months to six months, again, full time or part time And then for medic school A lot of programs are going to be a year. You can do accelerated programs that are nine months, but some people do two year long programs. So the whole length of it is about two years plusly ye and The first part was five thousand do. What's the total amount for those two years? I just So when I went, it was about eight thousand dollars to go to medic school. I just happen to be looking at some of that stuff recently. Some places are twenty five thousand dollars to go to medic school. fifteen thousand dollars be about your average To go earn thirty seven thousand dollars? T yeah, nothing. I think the starting pay here for a medic is forty three thousand dollars a year or forty five thousand dollars a year.ow I mean, that's nothing in the state of New York. No. It's not I mean, when I became a medic, I was making twelve dollars an hour. So there's how many years ago is that when you start? That was nineteen years ago, eighteen years ago. But no any idea what that number is now? It's still somewhere around like the eighteen do to twenty dollars range. It's not a lot of money for. I mean you think what they're become a barista, it's similar pricing.es. And you don't have to risk your life Yes. Wow. Yeah. it's And then, okay, so I was saying it kind of jokingly, but is it serious that they grade you based how do they decide who they're taking? What is the logic? So what's great is that most of the processes are going to be relatively long. So you're going to do an application process's all your basic stuff, you know, your name, date of birth, all the fun stuff, your certifications that you're going have. We require something called a CPAad there to make sure that you're physically able to do the job it. I do those. hospital. Yeah. Do you really? Yeah yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I didn't know that. Hold on, you mean like it's a physical. Yeah. Yeah yeah. So I perform those physicals on firefighters. It's a candidate physical ability test. Yeah. So Well, no, no, no, that's different physical. Okay. I do the physical where I listen to heart. ye do that later.. Which actually kind of bothers me to some degree because a lot of it is a corporate contract with the city or town or fire department and I end up doing tests that I would never do on a young person. Yeah because it's a legality. Like I'm doing stress tests on young folks and I'm like Dude, you exercise. that is it, but you have to do it based on the rules Did you have to do any of that? Oh yeah. yeah. So you'll do that you'll do the application, you'll make sure that you that that you have your CPad Then when you put that in, what's new now is the social media piece. it's like because they're doing full background checks. Are they trying to see who has the most followower? Yeah, I mean, yes. could you imagine. No a lot of times they're like I don't want that. No, they just want to make sure there's nothing ridiculous going on. I mean if you are So they request your social handles or they find them on their own No, they're going to request and tell us that There's a department I won't name it, but a department that I applied for while I was waiting to hear back from my department. It was the application Then I did the physical piece of it where I'm sorry, a written test. and the written test I was surrounded by, mind you, this was the hiring freeze. There was nobody around So I was surrounded by about three thousand other applicants. It was absolutely insane. How many positions? twenty positions. Yeah. It's Yeah. So wor the medical st. dude. was it was one of those where you sit down and you're like, holy crab. this is So you're the best of the best. Like you're the finest. You're the Navy seEL if you're medic. . Anyone watching this is a bad movie like for you. But so you go to that process. And this is for again, a different department. But once you finish that piece, then you go through a physical test, which is it took you about two hours to get through the full physical piece of it. It's search and rescue, finding a victim Stretching a line, knocking down hoses, extending a ladder, like all these different things. Once you pass that, they put you through a lie detector. Yeah. The lie detector makes And what did they ask you, are you afraid? No, no. L haveave you ever smoked marijuana Yeah, ye, the basic stuff. So they'll ask you that Which now they're probably not asking that question No Florida's still Oh yeah. You can get your medical marijuana card, but Well in New York is crazy like every corner it seems like. I saw that That was crazy.. It's still crazy for me. Yeah. We'll talk about that but once you did that, you had to do another interview panel, Then you did another lie detector test to make sure that you didn't lie on anything in between there Like it's just huge. So some places really want to make sure that there hiring the best of the best, which is obviously great. My department was an interview an interview panel, they went through a bunch of questions Then I had to do an interview with the chief, make sure that I was good for the job Wow. What a multi step process. Yeah.'s incredible. Did you worry about any of that application process through it? Not really. I mean they were just like, I am who I am. Yeah, that thankfully, that's kind of the way I've lived most of my life iss just I am who I am. I've tried to grow. I've tried to become a little more focused internally and make sure that I'm taking care of my own mental health and then as well as other people. My wife is about to get her master's degree in family therapy. So it's very cool. Okay Plan B is a backup birth control option that's there for you when things don't go according to plan It specifically works after unprotected sex and before pregnancy occurs by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is available nationwide at all major retailers and through delivery apps like Doorash. No ID, prescription, or age requirement. It's the number one OBGYN recommended brand of emergency contraception, and it won't impact your future fertility That's Freedom to Be. 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What is the difference? and this is my lack of knowledge, so I apologize on that behf Um paramedic. EMT people say don't you ever say ambulance driver? But then in some places they have someone dedicated to drive the ambulance? Yes. Yes. What is the Difference How does one understand the difference? Yeah me through that journey. No of course. So Ambulance driver is just, or they call stretcher Fetchers. that's my favorite one. So Ambulance dririver is going to be a basic transport companies to where they there's no real medical knowledge needed. Mbe just a first responder certificate or something like that. They're just picking up patients and bringing them back to maybe a nursing facility or something that Absolutely. They're literally putting them in a wheelchair and putting them in. EMT, three month long course. very basic parts of I keep looking right at that camera by the way. so let the audience knows. But your real basic knowledge So like how to help someone administer oxygen or help them use an EPPen, stuff like that. And then for paramedics, you are now and we're always operating under some medical director, but we're now administering medications. We are innovating people. It's the advanced level. So basic level and advanced level. There's an intermediate EMTI that's in between there that's in some states I'm not sure if New York is one of them but Florida, we don't recognize it. So with that, you're still able to innovate, I believe, and still have a basic host of like cardiac medications that you're allowed to give. But it just depends.ike we're able to crank people. We're able to Yeah. How many times have you cranked someone? zero and I'm good with that.. I was on a plane scenario where there was a medical emergency and I was worried that if the EpPen didn't work, or you I would have to and id't do one on a human yet. I on bel little models I'm like o, I don't want to do this with a pen. No because there's nothing st. My so when you finish So you go through pederamedics then you get hired and then you have to go through a preceptor program depending on what department you're working for, it could be year long. But theyessentially run you through their own protocols, they make sure you understand their stuff, and then you have a preceptor that follows you the whole time. At the end, you talk to with a medical director just ask you some basic questions, make sure you're good. And went through all mine and then he says, Hey, what's the hardest part about cryking somebody? And I was like Like I started going through all this stuff. He's like, just making the decision, bro. That's the hardestob. Yeah That's good. That's like the tricky medical school question of like what's the biggest risk factor for a heart attack? haaving a past heart attack. lookook at you. Yeah, Well, that's it's always like some obvious an ye that I he. Yeah. know, but that's what we always say we're like smoking, diabetes, high cholesterol. Yeah. all those things are important obviously, but ye if you just had one That really raises your risk for having. Have you seen that guy' on TikTok? He said He always starts off with TikTok. He's a double board certified cardiologist and You would enjoy it if fight I' seent it to you This guy is hysterical to me because we were talking before we got out here, like people that like start talking and I'm like, I don't know. I'm in the medical field. I have zero clue you just said. But when he talks, bro, he sounds like he has just been punched in the face by stupid people that don't don't Madl crisis? No, I what it's like doctor Blitz or something like that, but. always I knew every doctor on social media. you probably know he's He's like, Hey, what's going on? Double board certified cardiologist, Dr. Blitz here. And like every time He's just like and it's always like, all right Jesus, I can't believe Im to say this again. L I see a guy. I wish I knew what his position was. I think he's an exercise physiologist, maybe PhD and he discusses topics surrounding exercise and fitness. But he says, describing it as if I have CTE. Okay, Okay. Have you seen that? Yes. Okay, yeah. That dude is so funny.. You need sodium? No.. Honestly sometimes I watch, I go, Okaykay, yeah, yeah, this is how I learn too It's true, though, in order to understand complex topics, you have to break it down. Yes one hundred percent. If you could do it with a little humor, that adds on to something. That's all ideal in is humor. Whenever I'm teaching people anything. I've been lucky enough to be able to make some good CPR videos and you and I gotta talk about the Guinness Book World Records you just took. Was say yours? No, I. I can't can you imagine no No, that was very cool, man. So I own a comedy CPR company. No way. Yeah, I teach people how to do CPR, use AEDs, basic first aateid. all through comedy. So it's all through stand up comedy for an hour and a half two hours three hours,pending on along the classes. And it's so much fun. I had' to teach in a long time ago and I just watch these people like as I'm like So you're going to push on someone's chest and you're going to feel a lot of crunching and they're like, No. So just removing all the fears and everything, it's just such a good time to be able to teach people in the right way. And it was very cool that I'm sure you made it a blast. I would love to see how you do that because we did a live tour part of our life it was kind of an improv variety show. Yeah. And one of the sequences was teaching people if they can keep the hundred beads per minute on average for a two minute span. And you bring up kids on stage and they all have their mannequin that counts and then we see who won and we give them an award. But it's like people are so way off. They underestimate what two minutes is. I'm running around with the microphone while they're going, the music's playing. It's kind of a vibe. But I'm curious how you do it. That's so funny. Yeah. We just try to interject as much humor as possible to be able to remove intimination. Yeah and all because I say So twenty years I've been in the medical field Last week we have a code. This guy we believe he vageled out, passed out on the toilets. We pull him out. What does a code mean to you? It's cardiac arrest What do you, what's code to you? Because you guys, becausecause you're in hospital. Yeahod blue, code red. Yeah. Yeahah. sorry, we just called it a code Yeah.'s We only have one code. But wait so he Vasovagl Uuh And then his heart stopped. We believe he vaged. they thought it was a cardiac arrest so they called the code, but it turned out he just vag. No, no. he was I think he vagled out, fell off the toilet, hit his head Yeah And he actually had a history just three weeks ago of being cardioverted going in and out of safe of attack. Yeah. Oh VTack. Okay. Yeah. so he So we get there, we pull them out. we start doing CPR and we doesn't have a pulse But he still has agonal breathing. still has agonal respirations And put him on the monitor and he's in Vib. We have to fibrillate him. But I can tell do twenty years I've been doing this man twenty years in, it is still uncomfortable for me to see somebody doing something that is normally a life sign. Watching that I mean being like was looking a shock. I just well within two minutes he had a viable rhythm and he was good to go. mean Now imagine teaching that to someone who has never done this in their life. likeike they've never pushed on someone's chest and heard ribs cracking or dislocating from the sternum however you want to look at it. And like trying to remove that fear is so difficult. So I do the basic stuff. L their heart's not beating and they're not breathing. what are they? Yeah BLS. Yeah,. they get a certification of? Oh yeah.. That so cool Bast man, I love it, dude. And then the it's so funny you do the trying to keep people on beat. because I always say the three biggest things people do wrong is one, the trampoline effect, they like raate their chest. Or the rabbit effect it tends to be just men. they go way too fast not deep enough. Even when I teach that, there's still a guy that gets on there. there's like I God this b my go. S slow down. Also the guys love to do the tricep flex. Yes. So they're doing like the tricep extension. I'm like, bro, this is not a close grip. like notist. Yeah, I would say those are frequently. obbviously If I was your u chief that was interviewing you, I would say The real mistake that people make is they don't do it. Yes.. Yeah, you're so good, man This guy's media trained. I'm telling you. Okay, so then EMT, well, transport, EMT, EMTI, paramedic, is there anything above? U No, if not for us. not in our field. Yeahah. Once you become a paramedic, then that's And then you become a paramedic, how does the firefighter angle kick in? So in Florida, if you want to do first response, at least in my area South Florida, you need to be a firefighter and a paramedic. just because of the response models,' it's the only thing that's really going to make sense in that area. so we can have that that dual response. And as a firefighter, we're not just, I know I say it's only fifteen percent and It obviously depends on the day, but fifteen percent I said Yeah for fires and so on and so forth That fifteen percent would be like active structure fires or car fires, but for that fire piece of it, we're also doing extricacations. We're doing gas leaks, water leaks. We're doing pretty much anything that you ever have to bring like the jaws of L. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah tellell me about that.. Dude, I gota at some point time, man, I can get you out to this place, but we'll do extricacations. We'll put you through full firefighting stuff. We'll let you do it all, man Oh my God, I spend a day as a firefighter would be a great video. We'll do it. Yeah. definitely Comment down below if do you w want to see it sorry It's just gonna to be yes, yes yes. But you're the number one tag in most of my videos. They're like, doctor Mike, doctor Mike. like, this is about prostate issues. What is taging doctor doctor Mike is gonna to come in. So anytime someone's in a motor vehicle accident, a lot of people don't know with modern vehicles, they have crumplple zones. They want vehicles to compress. Yeah Limit the amount of inertia that's moving into the patient itself. So when we roll up there, we have to be able to a lot of people think we just start ripping open doors, but there's a huge process. We have to do a full three hundred and sixty around the vehicle, makeake sure there's no gas or fuel leaking around it. If there is, we pull an inch three quarter lineout or a fire hose. thenen we're going to stabilize the vehicle, so we put blocks of wood underneath the vehicle collapse on some I saw that happen here in New York not too long. The one that was on its side. Yeah. Yes, that's a whole different. This I'm talking about basics. Yeah I got it. Yeah, we're putting up struts and different stuff for that. That I saw that video. That's that is crazy. So scary. It really is But for that, we'll throw more down we. You know that was on this block Those are really Holy cown ye I think everyone surved that one, right You know which video I'm talking about No, no, it not the building. It was a car flipped over and it was sitting on its side They they' falling on the firefone. Maybe you can Google and see if you can find him. Yeah, I think I saw. I think he was good. That everything Everything we do as firefighters and paramedics, there's always some inherent danger within it. and those situations are super, super dangerous. That's why when you see us pull up, people want us to move as fast as possible. They want us to get in there, get the person out, but we need to make sure they're safe. Yes.es,. Do you have any good taglines? Like I know in racing, we do like U Slow is smooth, smooth as fast. That's exactly we say that fire fight. Okay. one hundred percent. We say that too. like just please don't die. That'ss good for anybody. d. Okay. so you have to stabilize the scene, you have to do all this. But like what's the actual process like when you do cut someone out? Is it It's it feel good? Oh ye. I mean dude you working with probably the biggest tools you're ever going to work with in your life. It's an incredible process. You created what's called a purchase point in the door itself. So you can use Halligans or whatever you need at the time. you could even use the tips of the tools. But we need to be able to open up that door Enough to where we can get the spreaders inside of there and spread it open. There's a bolt inside of there, a bolt that's holding that door on and we can't just spread it off there without making sure that we're doing it properly because if we just catch the outside of justle everything. Yes, exactly. justust make it worse. But we'll do what's called delamination. You just start peeling the door off it doesn't get person We have a relatively short amount of time that we need to get that victim out ten minutes is typically the goal that we're trying to go for. When you arrive at a scene like that, obviously, you're evaluating the scene for safety, you're doing all these check list factors in your mind Are you ever worried about your own life N I mean, were we always make sure something we tell lay rescuers like the most important uncene or most important person uncene is you. likeike we always want to make sure that We're as safe as possible when we get there, not because we value ourselves over other people, because when you become a firefighter, well you do. Yeah. No I should. Yeah. We value ourselves not getting injured or hurt because if we become a victim, we now have two victims there. and it distracts everybody from the scene That's something we with tell new probationary firefighters. Like dude, don't just kick a door open, introduce oxygen, do have a backdraft, or you know you know, create a flashover environment, stuff like that. Make sure that whatever we're doing, we stay safe so we don't have to divert people to make sure that you're okay now That's like the main reason why when the governor will come on and say there's a state of emergency, don't go on the roads because now you're putting first responders at risk if something happens to you, right? That's the same logic? Yes When you sign up to be a firefighter, none of us want to die like from N's aicital. But we have the understanding that If you have to make the ultimate sacrifice, make sure you're doing it. in the way that makes sense, you didn't just do it because you made a stupid decision. Is that actually discussed in the classroom?? Your job is to save lives. and you need to do it the most efficient way. Make sure that Because like I said, if we're going into a structure that's on fire, there's an inherent risk. There's an inherent risk that that entire structure may flash over you, the floor collapses, stuff like that. So make sure you're making the proper decisions that you don't put yourself in a greater risk where you will get injured But if you do have to go in there, you are putting yourself at risk, but just make sure you make the proper choices to go in there What are the most common reasons or scenarios that a firefighter gets hurt It depends on the situation. It can be a lack of training or a poor decision in the moment U But there's a lot of times we just don't see something that's you know, something an object that's in the house that's on fire that we're not aware of, a chemical that's in there that we're not aware of But it just really depends on the situation. Yeah, fire deteriorates a lot faster than we thought it might have so people get injured. But building collapse is a big one. roof collapses are a big one When you go into a burning building What is the mindset and what is the equipment that you have to protect you in that moment So obviously, our bunker gear is going to be the number one thing that's going to stop us from It's like the big jackets. Yes, the big jackets, everything that we're wearing to go in there. Th we So that's fireproof It's not fire proof. It's fire resistant. That's what we're going to call it. ye. Anything could be said on fire you're woing. So there's a time that you can Exience a fire and it's not going to burn your skin or. Direct flame impingement is what we would really say Again, it depends on the environment, how hot it is, how fast it's moving, but, it depends on the situation. A flashover environment, that's when all combustibles in the house have set on fire. A lot of people don't know this, but smoke is just unburned chemical or unburned combustibles. So flashover when all of those combustibles have now set on fire. So you go from, say an average of five hundred to eight hundred degrees inside of a structure to now it's upwards of fifteen hundred two thousand degrees So thermal layering is what happens in a fire. So the hottest environment' going to be the top. and that's why we tell you people when we're escaping from a fire, stay as low as possible. You stay away from the smoke. Most people that die in fires, they don't die from the flames of the heat. They die from smoke inhalation. Really And they tend to die Is that because they're spending a lot of time in that environment? They're trapped there. They're trapped. they're trying to get out. I mean, you're That's why smoke detectors are so important man. like early detection You're sleeping in your bed, closeed before your dose, like the basic things. If you close your door before you go to sleep, especially with your children your' if there is an environment where there's a fire, smoke has now spread throughout the house. They're saying fires are now producing two hundred times more smoke than they were sixty years ago because of polyesters, lithium batteries, so on and so forth But if they do happen to wake up and there is smoke alarms going off, the door is closed. The room is not filled with smoke. So they can feel the door with the back of their hand. We always feel with the back. We don't want to feel the front of our hand. if we burn our palm, then it's going to be a bad situation for us. So they they feel if it's if it's super hot, then they can shelter in place when they call nine hundred eleven,'ll what's called a VES Asume no matter what floor you're on, but we'll break the window, We'll go in, grab you, isolate the room, and then we'll get out U But in those situations, it's just making sure you stay as low as possible so you can avoid the smoke But for us with firefighting, again, the gear depends on how old it is or what's going on, but it's designed to keep the heat from hurting us, allowing us to get as deep as possible. And then there's some schools of thought that saying our gear is so good now, it lets us get too deep into pockets of fire. Too deep. Wow. going in with an oxygen canister as well. So are you using that the whole time? Yeah, it's an SCBA. It's a self containing breathing apparatus. So it has just regular a reggular air and at twenty one percent oxygen, all the fun stuff. How long does it last? It depends Ours are four thousand five hundred PSI bottles. so they're roughly somewhere between thirty to forty five minutes if you're like an absolute stud, you're in the greatest shape ever. Use less. You can use less, yeah. You'll be within that range. But some people will suck a bottle down like that fifteen minutes, it's. I would definitely suck it. That's my fin shape.. I'm oxygen hungry, This bravey using. But but yeah, we'll go in with that So There's typically two people that are showing up to fires. I mean with firefighters, we are there's multiple different types of roles that are showing up. Command officers, someone that's going to be there running the entire scene, giving people their tasks or their jobs that they need to perform, letting dispatch know what's going on, giving updates on how we're doing. thenen you have someone that's going to be forcing entry if the front door is locked. so that's where the halligans and the axes come in. We can busust doors open, that's exciting you do that if youd be a firefighter for a day, a blastedight. Yeah,'s one. And then people that are on the nozzle. Then you have people that are three hundred and sixteen in the building. Is the nozzle as impossible to control as they make it seem in movies? No. Everything in the movies is everything. Not everything but. So it's controllable. Oh very controllable. You can one hand the nozzle So what's great about this is the techniques that you learn, learning how to advance hoses properly. We don't hold the you see where like the hoses have a little pistol grip on the bottom where they hold No, no one is holding that pistol grip.. doesn't make any sense. It's completely uncomfortable. And what it does is if you're trying to hold The piece that has the most pushback, the most pressure back on top of you, Eventually as you're moving your way into a fire because you need to advance that line in, it's going to start to force its way back So now this is very uncomfortable and it's not appropriate for me to be able to rotate and spray and do whatever I need to do. So what we'll teach you is how to keep the nozzle out in front of you and then you can just hold the base of the hose itself and that becomes very, very, very manageable. and then you can spin it or do whatever Does the person who's in charge of the nozzle have their own Yes, like, oh this is mine. donon't use my. No, it's not there. That wouldd be freaking awesome. Mike did you use Jim's nozzle? No, it's on the truck. So our most of your engines are gonna have what we call pre cononnects. So you'll have a front bumper lined, Then we have two pre connects that come off the side, and then larger diameter hoses that'll go from there Yeah, the nozzle guy that goes in, he is in charge of that nozle typically have someone backing him up The joke is that everyones to be on the nozle. 'use that's the most exciting part.. You're going you'll understand if you do it man. Like you're going in, you are When you become a firefighter, that's what we We want to break stuff, you know, appropriately to help people. But we want to go in there and slight the drag and we want to fight fire. that's what we're here for. We're here to stop fire from spreading and save lives And with rookies or new probationary firefighters, they'll get up there. they've put their mask on so they don'thale any smoke and they'll put the nozzle down and that's a big no. Yeah. We're going to take that from you. So, another guy run up and take it and run Okay, let's run a training scenario. I am on the second floor of my home I smell fire, there's smoke everywhere, maybe not so bad because my door is closed Dogs are loose. Okay I touched the handle a tot back of my hand Do I open a window and run out and like fall, take You're on the second story. Yeah. You're gonna call nine eleven. Okay. Do you have an espe ladder? That's. you don't have anespeadder. But but I can talk and roll. You can talk and roll. No. Have you ever fallen from the second story? No. Don't do that. You're gonna to call nine eleven, you're gonna to shelter in place. You're if the dogs are out I have a dog of Yorkie. I love him man. He's such a cool day. He wakes me up every morning, likeiss a stud. I actually think he expects me to rub him every morning. like on, let's go. And it would be very hard for me not to run out and try to find my dog if he wasn't in the room with us Pets are really good, man. They understand danger. They understand where they should and should not be. So they will do their best to find a place where they can survive or at least be good enough until we can show up there. If the dog is scratching at the door Op up the door, get your dog inside and then we'll go from there. But if you don't know, don't go venturing off, there's a good chance. We've had people escape from fires and then go back in to grab books and they perish from the fire. Yeah, books or person items. Yeah, Oh yeah Yeah. and it's obviously it's superfortunate in like And is that you were already on scene when that happens? No, we arrived on scene. They had already self extricated. then we get there, they had gone back inside and now we're going in to get them. Yeah. Wow. So second story you're never running back in Don't run back in the house. No, wantce yourre outs. So what if your childhood Is your child in a room by themselves with with the room locked? Look, when we say touch the door, if you touch the door and it is scolding your hands, like it is so hot, you can see flames coming out from underneath the door. It doesn't matter how much you want to save your kid. When you open up that door, you're gonna to die. Like there's no way you're going to make it out into that hallway. If flames are that bad Y your child's door is closed. We've called nine hundred and eleven. Hey, my child's on the backside of my house, second story We're going to immediately pull up. We're going to get ladders. or if we can put an aerial out there, then we're going to try to get your child as quickly as possible But wetting towels, putting them at the door jamb, covering yourself with them, all that's useless..' Again, you're not gonna die you're not in that situ, if there's flames blowing out from the from the door, then yeah, it's going to be bad. But smoke inhalation is that big issue. When you go out there, those fumes are extremely toxic. You're inhaling all the polyesters, all the whatever lithium stuff is on fire. I have two air purifiers in my B bad idea to turn them on. I mean Because they would suck air into the room. But they would also be cleaning the smoke. They would be. I don't know what is the strategy? You're gonna die. That's. But don't even think about that. So here's what I'll tell you. Average response time for my area is six to eight minutes. Sometimes we're even faster than that Your average response timeight for most places is assuming you live in a city is going to be somewhere between six to ten minutes. Fire spreads extremely quickly. If you're in a room by yourself or if you're in a room and you are safe, stay in that room. Do not try to get out of that room. Open up the window We're going to get ladders there. We'll get you out. So opening up the window doesn't create that pulling in effect. Once wait, obviously, wait until we get out get up s, yes. But I mean, two towels underneath the door is totally fine. takeake your your sheet out on your bed, putut it underneath there. so no smokees making it in there What if there is already so much smoke in the room, can you then open the window? I would open the window and do we have a balcony there? Is there something a roof I can go on? Like if you're starting to choke, then yes, let's outside of It's really hard to make like of course because there's so many varables. Yeah, it's like me saying my chest hurts. youre like, what you? Do it telemedicine Dude,'s I can't imagine being a physician during that telemedicine piece. It's really hard. And honestly, the private equity world that we live in, they're like, Oh, we should just do telemedicine for all of it. Like why do you even need hospitals ude trying to evaluate someone's pain. Yeah virtually. Yeah. It's like, oh, touch this. Yeah. Okaykay.. That person has never touched. two thousand stomachs before, you know, her abdomin. So it's really difficult. It's funine when you say it like that I'm trying tove touched a thousand stomachs. Yes. I'm trying to think how many patients I've seen. I think to graduate You need something like five thousand encounters Outpatient Yeah, the numbers are huge. like that's czy. Yeah, you need a lot of Well I would want that Maybe not I would want you to Yay be very There's competency standards that these organizations set for us But it's thousands of patients. Yeah. This is my So it's a lot of patience. How you?. thirty six. You're thirty six It must be nice to not look thirty six You don't think look thirty. No,ud. No way. I think I'm falling apart. Maybe I just feel thirty six dude. How old are you? I'm forty I just turned forty three. Okay. the same age. Yeah. I woke up swear to God I had my fortieth birthday. I wake up And my ankle was killing me. or my heel was my heel My heel was killing me and I was like I didn't do anything. I didn't like exercise excessively the day before, nothing. Did you rest it on something hard? No, I was just sleeping in bed So you went to bed, no pain.. You see he's trying to diagnose No, but I' radiating it anywhere. Interesting diagnoses because I'll sometimes develop weird stuff. and I'm like, oh, it's because I laid my heel on something plastic for an hour while playing a game And I go put my heel on something plastic because like bone On a hard surface doesn't like that Well game you, bud Overwatch. A You know it? Yeah. Really? Yeah, No one knows the game. That's how I say with Yeah. also Sim Race and on the Sim, the thing is really hard. So if I'm lazy and I don't put on a shoe, oh boy my feet hurtting Those old people problems. Yeah Okay, so we have the scenario for me. Luckily for me, my house is a sprinkler system So so my u my townhouse does as well. Okay. So like does that mean like I'm good? You should be good, bro. Sprinklers are incredible, right? That's the purpose of them is to stop the fire from spreading into additional areas. So if that pops off, then one hundred percent. And when a sprinkler system pops off, does it pop off everywhere? No, that's those are system like DU systems is what those are called You just don't see those anymore. But sprinklers no, they're just there's a bunch of different types of sprinklers or at least the heat that they go off at. There's a little glass vial inside of there. Once it reaches a certain temperature, it expands. there's a plug inside, it pops out. The fun part though, is what's inside of that sprinkler system What it water? Is it gross? you mean?? Every other one has gasoline. I'm just kidding. No, it's water, but that water has a metric ton of sediment in it. So like when it goes off, it's just straight black water coming out of there. Why is it much? Because it's been It's just been sitting there stuff coming off the pipes, which obviously in a fire who cares? Every's get like it needs to be put out, but I've had multiple people put They're hangers they'll go to hang. Oh I see that in the hotels. they always have the sign. Yes. Yeah so many people I mean, you're in this is call to action. Do not put a hanger please, do not put a hanger. You're talking Depending on the sprinkler, six to twelve gallons per minute coming out of this thing. Y house is justy It is flooded. Wow Are you tearing the house up after that? We're not doing anything.'re I'm not saying like, yeah, as a person. Yeah, it depends. Yeah.'re If it's flooded through to the floor below, depending on what's going on abbsolutely. Tomorrow morning is knocking. Stock your fridge now. How about a creamy moochaappuccino drink? or a sweet vanilla? Smooth caramel maybe, orr white chocolate mocha. Whichever you choose, delicious coffee awaits. Find Starbucks Rappuccino drinks wherever you buy your groceries. 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He said, please don't become a mechanic. for two reasons. One he's like it's not as lucrative as it was when he was a mechanic and he managed to move his way up. And he's like, you don't have the attention span to be a mechanic, which inevitably became true When I went to EMT school after being a mechanic for two years It was incredible. I'm sure it's the same way that you felt the first time you really started learning about human anatomy and the body and just the way it works.. I was like this is incredible This is so cool. Um, and then fire school was the same thing just on a different level. this like Dude I get to break things in half. And I get to hang out with some of the greatest people I've ever met. I don't know how it is in the physician world, but like We show up on shif. We're there for twenty four hours. There's a bunch of different schedules, twenty four on forty eight out. Some do forty eight on ninety six off, that kind of thing. but You get into this job to save lives and you stay for or you stay in it for the brotherhood and the sisterhood that you get. Like some of the greatest guys I've ever met, I get to sit around a table They say all the world's problems have been solved around the firehouse table. Like it's amazing. It's such a good time. I would tell anybody at any point time, You get to save lives, you get to interact with people. you get to find real human interaction. Sometimes the greatest medicine the world is just holding somebody's hand and saying, Hey, man, what can I do to help you And that I've loved every single second. I it's been so cool. Do you guys slide down the fire pulse still? I do. Yeah. do Do You have it? Yeah, We' built two brand new stations. It's kind of falling out of favor. Yeah, 'cause it hurts people. You guys end up needing you have to give care to your dude. What happens? if people do twisted ankles, like, yeah So the first poll I ever got to a f poll I got to go down was in Shreveport, Louisiana I wan to say theirs is thirty feet up. I wantanna say it's three stories or Dude, I looked looked at. they're like you want to slide? I'm, sure,. They open it up. I'm like, Romin. Are you gloved up when you do it? No. just Yeah just sl that Yeah. so I'm like, I'm not a huge fan of heights. I have when you when you're in fire school And when I got hired fire Department, that we have a seventy five foot aerial ladder and they put it up at a proper climbing ale roughly seventy percent And or seventy degrees and you have to climb straight up it. With no like safety hook attached You'll have it. You'll have it. when you get to the top, you hook in. Yeah gotot it. So if you fall prematurely, It's been fun Wow. Okaykay. So you're going down the sturdty foot polar h. So I'm going down Thday was it was one of those like, and I got like twelve guys watching me as fire station and they're like, come on like I can't check it out. Oh my God. I locked was just. You're supposed to be somewhat relaxed and I just like, twist through your headound. So terrifying man. Okay, so lots of injuries from the fire ple We still do it. It's much faster than going down the stairs. and how much faster U there' seconds. ten seconds Yeah something like that. Yeah. But it's probably also real estate wise is a good choice because stairs require a lot of. There's some people do fire slides. So instead of the pole They'll just put a slide in and you just slide down That sounds more fun. Oh my go. What I say? I would be asking for calls jump in. And how many calls on a shift do you normally get? It depends. I've had calls where we call goose eggs and have a single call the entire shift. And then I've had calls where we've run twenty six calls in a twenty four hour period. Wow. So because a lot of these are not fire, what are the calls? Yeah, mas based calls, so chest pain, short of breath, seizures, cardiac arrests, all the fun stuff And then car accidents, like I said, the no fire speace is just structure fires are diminishing at least in South Florida because of or in a lot of areas. Again, when you move into the winter periods or you go into places that, you know are wood frame structures, a buddy of mine works or a couple friends of mine work for a city called Rockford. They'll have three or four structure fires in a day. So wow. But yeah, it just depends on the area. But for us, it's going to be mainly those EMS based calls. And I'm sure we have a lot of manufacturing facilities. Those probably are very high risk and huge probably when they happen. So the area that I work in is everything, million dollar structures, low income housing Highways, I told you before we got on here, we'll go with the Coast Guard every once in a while and three mile trip out to a cruise ship, which is a blast every single time Those guys are nuts bro, reallyally? Oh my God. because they're so they're just so comfortable on there's they're good. They're very good at their job. And they're so comfortable on these on these boats and it's always three AM whenever this happens. We get toned down, we're half asleep we get on there.' like All right, guys, you get ready? And we're like, Yeahah, sure. six foot waves were just jumping over this stuff and they're like, we're good for a very long time, we would get the boat, the Coast Guard boat right next to the cruise ship And we would have to time the waves and we would jump on to the cruise ship And wait, so you're doing fire rescues on a cruise ship N fire rescue, we're going out off for medical Medical. Yeahah, they'll call us because we have to bring them in because they can't come in So they'll they'll t the patient, then we'll get them and then we'll bring them in and bring them to a local hospital So currently, we're in the midst of a Honda virus outbreak on a cruise ship What were you called to a cruise ship for? A couple cardiac arrests, I've had a lot of either broken bones or minor injuries, stuff that they can't treat. somethingomet major enough to where they can't treat it or stay on the ship. So we just need to bring them to a local hospital to be able to get checked out. What if there's a fire on a cruise ship They have de their their entire crews are trained to fight fire. Wow. Yeah.. So they have fire extinguishers, hoses,. And I would imagine there's levels of it, but they have they have rescue teams on there that that is what they do. Let me tell you why I don't wantan to fight a fire on a cruise ship or on a boat. How come those are horrendous. Think about it. There's water all around you. is. Well once it gets in the boat, that's big problem. you're surrounded by metal, there's nowhere for that heat to go. It's just a big hot box. And then depending on where the fire is. So like I said, the thermalaying heats always at the If I have to go into we don't have basements in Florida, but a lot of guys around these areas, they fight basement fires. there. Why are there no basements in Florida? Oh flooding? Water. Yeah I lived in a townhouse that had a basement. They just built it really above gr. called it look at our baze when. I'm like, I' on a hill. This not a bas. This is the first floor. But yeah, they'll you have to go through all three layers of the heat before you can get to the fire itself. so it's super hot. So same thing on boats Those are super dangerous and yeah. So you mentioned earlier that a lot of what you see on TV is wrong, especially when it comes to the nozzle Do we know about firefighters that is not accurate circle with that. But you're like becausecause I know everything. so I don't need to deal with that. I don't know. so I'll say this and I don't know because you review a lot of the medical shows and stuff. There is there is that line where it is a show. They need to dramatize it, they need to They need to explain what they're looking at and dealing with, even if it's really outside of the way that a normal paramedic or two doctors would talk to each other Um So the viewer can understand what's happening and they need to dramatize stuff like fires or whatever it is. The only time that I'm like, is what are you doing is when they get the information just completely wrong? or they use the absolute wrong word for something, they're like, look at his knee. It's really red. I'm like, Jesus guysy,'s my tong So I think or the God my absolute favorite, Lava in California or wherever it was, there's a volcano that explodes or something like that, a piece of magma. out and lands on this guy's chest. and it's melting through his chest. I'm not sure if you saw this one, but it's melting through his chest. She grabs the McGill forceps and tries to grab the lava and it melts. It melts the metal and forget how they solved the problem. Oh, she used the Larynngoscope blade because Larynoscope blades have a you know different met fifty thousand degree melting point. It's melting on this guy's chest. I'm like this dude's dead. His heart is literally cooking. He's got a hot pocket for a heart right now. But it's those things where I'm like, God, this is so it's absolutely insane. Which fire medical drama is the most and least accurate Dacoma FD was a comedy that came out from the guys from Supertroopers. Perfect spro. like the Yeah, just really good In station humor and let me tell you, it's really hard to get in station humor to be acceptable. That was the only thing that kind of allowed me to gain any kind of popularity within the Fire and EMS service was I didn't take what we say in the station. BeCause I know you when you're around your physician buddies, like you say stuff that if you ever said on this podcast, they'd be like Nursing humor is some of the darkest ever. Y. You walk into a nursing station and you're like, what the hell am I hearing you here? But it's how you deal with dark moments and stress all the time Dude, I'm Tony. You don't You get in this field And the one thing that we've, I think we're doing so much better in the fire and EMS systems, and I think just as humans, is we are putting mental health on the forefront. When we're talking about it enough, to where It's normal for I proby. We go to a call, it's a deceased person. He walks and sees, and the guy's been deceased for a few days. It's something that's most people should never see And back in the day, when I started, if you saw that and someone was like, Y al right brore like, D, that was really where they're like, buck up, buddy. Like if you don't know how to handle this, screw you're like Jesus de.. So for us to be able to say, hey, man, to be vulnerable with someone and say like, hey, it's okay. L that's no most people will never see a dead person their're alive let alone that type of dead person. putting that at the forefront, we now have a class when it comes to talking about mental health and just talking about the things that you feel and hear And it's being really well received, which I think is very cool in the fire EMS service. What was it like the first time you lost someone in the field U I think So my first call was a woman who was in a car accident She got hit on a highway and her she had like bilateral femur fractures, like I you want to talk about like green, dude. I ran up and grabbed the door. She was she was crushed she needed to be extricated. I grabbed the door and started pulling on it and one of the guys I didn't have a coat on. Like I was just like, let's go we' saving lives. And one of the guys like, what are you doing? Bro? I was like, I'm sorry I'm just excited. So we ended up extricating her, but she ended upleeding death I think her pelvis is fractured as well. I think that was my first like real experience with, h crap, I can't save everybody Like that's weird. Like that's what we we believe if we're there in time, if they're still breathing when we get there, we should be able to save them and get them to the hospital Um But that was an interesting experience. And then I had two kids who flipped over in a car and ended up in a lake and we had to swim down and grab these kids, which I learned that day. Wow. I can hold my breath for eight seconds..'s not enough. Do you have that self contained airway breathing un? No, you're just swimming down. No you're not scoobing. No, you're not scoobing know, you're swimming down trying to break windows and get people out and we got we got them both out swiming to the shore and we got back to the station. one of the guys I work with, he's like, he start crying, man. He's like. those kids were my teenager age. It was the like that's what he saw. He identified with his kids and Um You know, we talked, we took our pants off. It was a great day for both of us, but I'm just kid mean take our pants you mal bonding, I get it. Suna session. It's worst and he doesn't laugh. It just makes me look like a weirdo. Thanks, Mike. Areciate that No, I get what you're saying. it's Every time you experience loss in the healthcare space It reminds you how vulnerable human life is But then at the same time, because you're seeing sick people all the time injured people all the time. you're Realizing, wow, the body does bounce back. It has an immense capacity for healing So it kind of puts you on these two extremes where you're like everyone's dying and no one's dying. Dude That guy that we was shocked the other day who was in PFib And then you went right back into a viable rhythm. I was like, that is crazy Be we talk about that, we teach people that we tell people that as lay rescuers, likeike if you, you know, if you use an AED, they have a really high chance, what should they do of surviving But you see so many cardiac arrests that don't end that way and you're like, man, like I need a win here. and you're you're right, dude. it is that fine balance between everybody's dying at all points in times and people can actually come back from this. Yeah, because it's like you're one inch from death and a thousand miles away from death at the same time. Yes. because the human body just like to me, I get so excited talking and thinking about the human body when it's like There are everyone says, oh, we're so fragile and they lose someone. And I get why they're saying that because they just lost someone that was healthy a few days ago If you look at it, the amount of threats we face on a given day, from bacteria and things that would kill us just one hundred years ago, then now it's like, oh, my throat hurts and I'm annoyed. I have to take Avil today So it's interesting how far we've come in handling acute disease and acute threats to our life And now we're dealing with the flip side of it because we're helping people survive these acute deaths moments. They arere chronicalth patients. Everyone's like, Why is everyone chronically unhealthy? Well, because we've prevented them from dying. So now they're chronic health patients. That's so funny. We see that a lot in our current health sphere where people say that, why is America so unhealthy Part of it is a problem of success. Another problem of it is like a societal issue and prevention issue and lifestyle issue It's a lot of things all bounced together in one That's easier access to things that they would need to be able to extend their lives is big. and that's kind of the same thing Ps for fires. That's why they're spreading fast, man. Because back in the day it was just, you know, cotton, there was, you know your basic combustibles that are in some of these things woods. now everything is polyester, everythingvery is plastic, everything light. So does that light up faster? Y Yeah. But then you also were saying some of the building materials are slower So build building construction has gotten better. But the actual things in the home are the things in the home are worse. And But then also lets people smoke Less people do st That's probably playing a role, right? becausecause the drop R? I don't know, that's what I learned that like you never smoke while sleeping. No, never smoke while sleeping. but then the other risks that are now coming, more things have lithium on batteries and then people are using charging banks Yeah chararging banks, they're not using the right charging cables. They're like they got their their one from their laptop, they're plugged. Yeah, that kind of thing allowing their cell phones or other things to charge while under blankets, they're overheating and causing fires.. Space hereers are a big one. extension cts, man. extxtension Is that the deadliest thing in a home? No, no, What is the deadliest item in the home U secondcond deadly got him. That was a good cheap answer.. The biggest cause of fires is going to be cooking. That's going to be your number one don't cook I mean, look, if you can afford it, man. Cook, just cook safely. Don't leave cooking unattended. If you're cooking with grease, make sure that you're not overheating the grease so it can busts. If you do have a grease fire, do you know what to never put on a grease fire Gess ye That is good. Yeah water, dude, everyone. Obviously the first thing you want to throw on a fire is water. But when you throw it on there spread it. It spreads it You got to think the grease moves around bas not it sits on the top of the water. Not only that is good. I guess guys to the doctor. Also, it immediately converts the steam. So and that it essentially explodes. you're throwing it on there. it's converting steam now we're throwing fire. What if you throw a really dense droplet because the nozzle sorry That you're gonna to be a billionairever you get that. It's just the one droplet Oh it's so funy. it's okay. you throw it, there's steam and So steam converts and now we have flames everywhere and you've also gotten burned in the process. but covering you just cover it. If you have a layer put it on top, fire blankets work really well. ABC extinguishers are good.'s what is that is that a type? ABC's just different types of your extinguishers. So how did you even know they were different Yes So if I'm buying one, which one should I buy? You buy ABC. So ABC will say that's gonna it's going combat a airway breathing airway breathing circulation. You spray it in their mouth and they come back.' That is not how you wantght to eat. Doctor Mike has killed forty three people this. video gets taken down by YouTube. I lose my doctor cert on the bottom please don'tsray people's. So A is going to be for your normal combustibles. so wood, paper or that kind of thing. Your flammable liquids are going to be for B, and then C is electrical fires Your average person, you want they want them within ten feet, one on every floor and then one within ten feet of age to ten feet of a cooking surface. But if you're doing that, just remember pass, pull aim squeeze sweep. So you're going to pull the pin You're going to step back Make sure you're again, far enough to wait t you can spread it properly. You're not going to spray anything on yourself. Then you're going to spray and you're going to sweep back and forth And you're aiming at the base, aim at the base of the fi There are different types of fires. Greease Gre electrical? Yeah Grease is Is is it just based off the ABC's? Yeah's not the ABC's, but it's just a type of combust. Solids liquids and electrical? No, that's solid, man. we're gonna to get D even.. G got byrolysis, all this fun stuff. But it's just a type of combust. The A is like again, like your normal things, this would. But how is electrical fire different than a grease fire because it has electricity involved with it. The grease fire is going to be the actual liquid that is on fire itself. The electrical fire is going to be it's an electrical source that is setting something else combustible on fire. Oh, so even if you put out the fire, if you don't stop the electrical source. cororrect but it's safe to spray it on that thing that is around that electrical issue. So you're But we obviously want to shut the electricity off. If you can't shut the electricity off because it's you know coming in from another source, then just get out of your house and. Another dumb guy question, haveave you ever been burned? Yes, how multiple times about. The firefight fire burns. sadly. I've only been burned on a fire once. And that was we were fighting a fire as a shed fire And we get there. It's big shed. What's on fire and there is a bunch of crazy stuff. It's you know, lawnmowers, a bunch of different fuels, diesels, gas, thingss of gas. When fire touches a gas tank, does it explode like it does in the movie? Itesn't exode like that. It doesn't Dam. You got to think in order for something to actually light on fire, it needs to be converted to a gas. It's through something called pyrolysis. Once it's converted to a gas, that is the state of matter that can actually be lit on fire. So when you put gas that's why when people like pour a ton of gas and then they talk to their friend for a second and then they come back and there's no pouring, that's just off gasing all of that. And then that's where you see explosions happen So Car accidents don't explode I feel like every movie I've watched has been a lie. It's like M on fire, I'm thinking of Denzel Washington walking away from the car. Oh actually he had C four so That was a great movie by the way. That's my favorite movie of all Is it? Yeah. Dude. Denzel is one of those guys I'm positive He's a little bit like that in real life. Yeah. Joe Pesy is supposedly just like that. Really? Yeah, supposedly I could see that too. Yeah. just being angry.. What's your favorite Jo Pesy movie? I mean, I know I'm from the Good Fellas vibes. I say Good Fellas really, I do I love Home Alone, man. I just I love that version of him. Mike it's really, really funny. Home Alone is kind of how I view the United States still. Yeah. Because when I came to America, that's like one of the first things I was out at the time. And I was like, wow, this is America. Like strange people come into your house, but you could beat the shit You move forward. Thank He was standing his ground. standing his ground. How long would you move to the United States? I was six in ninety five. That's so ninety five. so. Do you still act actuallyive speak Russian? That's Yeah With my father, it's our primary way of communications. I learned Polish at one point in time. No way. Yeah. Who learns Polish casually? and then guess the long the worory. I was married before and I learned Polish to speak to her family And I became conversationally fluent and I went to Poland twice for three months for each time in Coham. Yeah. Do you know what Coham me? You love me, Well, I figured because you said for your loved ones, I thought you would know. doctror Michuls 's. I loved speaking it, but it made me have such an incredible respect for anybody that learns another language, notot only just learns another language to be able to be conversationally fluent with other people, but then learns like a whole new medical terminology like, ye, it's insane. Like They should have a name, like a sub language, like music should be another language. Yeah. Like if you play music, you speak another language. Yeah. You are a lawyer, you speak another language. you're doctor engineer or whatever, you speak a different language. I think that's definitely true. How did you learn I started with a Rosetta stone. And it worked? It worked McN It works. You have to be in the environment, right? You have to, man. What I learned was because P, I imagine Russian is very similar. L everything is so dense or like so complex. like you can say the word two twenty two different ways because it's got to change maleer, neuter, female, that kind of thing. What I learned was that I went through aset of Stone, learened enough, then then I eventually got like a private tutor which was fun. And I went back and read my notes from Rosetta Stone. Dude none of it made sense. Like I understood nothing that I was saying, dude. But it was such a cool experience, man. I met a guy who was from the Ukraine, the Uber driver that brought me here. The guy's been here for years and we're just talking I'm like that's. Wait, he was talking to in Polish? No in English Noot in English. Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool too. I was like, Hey, I learn Polish. He's like, good job. I speak English. me love Yeah, I would not be able to learn Russian had I started now There's no way. it's too complicated. It would take too much time. Spanish I picked up from the medical world and also pass relationships. so I can understand what that's like. You see Spanish too? Not well, but enough to get by. Especially medically. Yeah. And the population that I take care of being in a community health center is so grateful that you've even tried. Oh yeah. like To them, it's the effort that you're putting in That is a blessing to them, which I love putting in that effort because I want to be a better communicator. Right? That's like part of the biggest part of your job that requires success, right? Cnecting to another human. That I think a lot of people lose that. And don't get me wrong, man at three o'clock in the morning for a toe paine, I'm like, what am I doing? Yeah But buck up. but I'm One of the biggest things I've learned is looking somebody in the eye and then Giving some kind of human touch to that Especially if they're freaking out. they don't know what's going on Buddy might say to me a long time ago. He he goes, what's an emerg It was probably five years and I was starting to get that burnout feeling. Um And he's like, just remember, what's an emergency you is not what's not an emergency to you is definitely an emergency to them. man. like This is the first time they've ever seen this. They've never had a call nine hundred eleven. They've never dealt with this before. And I think the best phrase I can I ever say to people that seems to work really well is it's going to be okay. Like we're going to do our best to help you And for y percent of the time in that's at least enough for them to say, all right, cool, I can take a breath It's gonna be okay.. The biggest tournament in soccer is here and I'm already planning my watch parties. Before kickoff, I stop at Total wine and more for drinks and for the whole crew, wine, beer, seeltzers, and ready to drink favorites. 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God. because I know a big part of your channel is creating these stories of There were these patients or these cases. when Flocka was around for a bit, that was insane. What's that? Are you never guys didn't have Flocka up here? Waca? No, Waca. You have three nose. You should try. I don't get excited. Is this the gentleman known as Waca? Fuck Yeah, he just ran through my area every once in a while.'re likea. No, it was it was street pharmaceutical that people were consuming and were smoking it.. Is this like bath salt not as um didn't seem to be as violent. It was just very They were all naked every time, but they like were no longer attached to our reality. The weirdest thing dude Weirdest thing is everyone, every time I ran on someone that was on there U They said that they were being chased by wolves Everyone one of them I was like, are they actually going to another reality like what's happening here. You don't have Wolves in Florida? No, no Wolves God. That would be a hold hold F. That's in Minnesota. But a few of those and you get there and they're legitimately, they they're looking through They're no longer. I think that's the scariest patient you ever deal with. is someone, I don't know if you've ever had that, but I mean, of course, to some degree, especially someone's son d downowning who's older in the. So we spend time in the nursingomes. Those people forget about it like Dude. Yeah. Yeah. they're so sweet otherwise. Yes, which is why seeing that flip is Oh yeah, Oh yeah But I u but they're looking through you. They don't know what's happening. They're scared because whatever they smoked is detached them from reality. And those are the moments where you're like crap because if if This could go south really fast. They could hurt themselves. So we give them some sedatives and I've had a couple of them give them some sedatives and boom, they're right back and they're like, Hey what's going on, bro? I've never heard this. This is years ago. Are you seeing more substance abuse cases now? No, it's actually decreased a lot in Florida. Really? At least they call us thean crew The pill Narcan crew, dude, that was bad. What wait you had a time with? Oh my Godd. During the peak of they called it the Pill Highway There were so many physicians pain clinics down there that were prescribing medication or opio to people. They were coming down from from other states getting going to multiple doctors called doctor shopping and go to multiple doctors and then driving back up, but we had a point where I don't know what type of opioid it was This we would show up on overdoses. there'd be two of them. twow people at one time, which we had never really seen in our area And they're right next to each other. We were giving them eight ten milligrams of narcan. And I mean, I mean had to be fentanyl It Dude, I've never seen anything like this. I've never seen you normally give't touch them. You normally give somebodyz five they wake up screaming. Yeah yeah. yeah. or you like just slowly tight trade them. I actually I don't wake people up anymore. I just get their respiratory drive back to normal. Yeah comfortably. Yeah, you bring them to a safe place. Yeah. because I dude, you watch people slam two milligams of that stuff and you're like, this is not good for anybody They' now vomited all over all of us and they' they're not happy. So But yeah, that was two milligams, two milligrams, two milligrams. Nobody's waking up. Supposedly, I don't know if it's true or not, but I teach CPR a lot of my clients are treatment facilities They do CPR so much that they need some difference than someone coming in Yeah can press on the dft. So supposedly there was someone who got busted in the Miami area and after that, that's where that because it was like w over night. It was overnight stopped. Wow Well that's true, I' knows That's so scary, the amount of differentials you have when you go to W he'.ike what do you know when you go to a call. L For me, before I walk into an exam room in an outpatient setting, I'll know the name of the patient, the age of the patient, the reason for the encounter, and my nurse will grab or CMA will grab a brief history along with the vitals and present that to me. Now I can go in with knowledge of what's going on. What do you know So we'll get the basics. We'll get the address, whatever the type of the call is, if it's chest pain short or chest painory complaint. You call it chief complaint? Gall chief complain. Yeah yeah, Which I don't really love because it's like Your heart stopped. You're not complaining. Well we don't walk in and go whose chief complaint is cardiacrect. Yeah, we'll get just the basics of what going on, but it's funny, Bro because You take that with a grain of salt U At least for you, you've they've gotten a set of vitals and kind of an updated stuff For us, like you said, especially telemedicine You know for you, they're describing something. they may not understand how to describe it properly. Or if you don't ask that one right question, like is it radiating or anything like that, you don't know that their aort is currently tearing in half. So how would you get vital science if you needed D you just Yeah if there's a dissection of them? No, I'm saying likeike during your telemedine piece, if like if Oh, you don't. There is no vitals for a time, to spe. There are now companies creating devices where if people want to They sell them the device and a membership to this telemedicine service where they can put on the devices the doctor can use those vitals. Yeah. And some of those devices actually allow you to look in their throat and ears and things like that. ot widely adoptable, but they were being sold at best buyle. Sensible. Yeah, I. I have my own little blood pressure machine at home. Amron? Yeah, it's a great machine dude. Like I gone through two or three of them and some of them were just wildly inaccurate. Oh really? Was it the size of the cuff that was issue? 'cause you have big arms I think it was or it might have been I tried different placements of it. And then Id learned something that I never knew, dude. I didn't know that your blood pressure is the highest when you wake up in the morning Is it the highest? It's supposedly higher than normal, I would say. Yeah from the cortisol spike of just waking up. Yes. Yeah, I wouldn't ever say like wake up a Yeah. Well, that's what I was doing, Dror Mike. I was waking up. I was I sitting Jesus. Why was my blood pressure so high? But yeah, that was s fun just being able to I developed high blood pressure of nowhere just likegs my personal note. I start getting headaches at the base of my head And I worked with this company called Detect Togher their' Cancer Prevention for firefighters and they have a two week role If you have any symptoms for longer than a two week period, you should get it checked out. So for two weeks. I wasven Yeah was great, great, great messaging. I had just pressure headaches at the base of my skull all the time So I was like, I think I have a tumor. That was my first thought. you went on webMDI. S some checkers. Yes. But I start I was like, let me just check my blood pressure. it was like onene hundred fifty five, one sixty, and then my diastolic was closer to one hundred. And I was like, I work out every day. My pulse is naturally in the low fifties. I was like, this is not normal I was eating these premade healthy meals. Sodium rich. They were sodium rich, man. And I don't eat any sodium. So I end up going on a low sodium diet ended up working itself out and it's good. Nice. So yeah And were the headaches related to that? Yeah That's what they was. ye. Becauseuse it's very unusual to have a headache from blood pressure unless it's really Yeah. I mean the hundred diastolic, now you're getting into that number. Yeah But I had a patient the other day came in for bilateral leg swelling. and obviously, whenever you have leg swelling, especially in someone who' older, you're worried about a clot. She's not moving around much. It wasn't the type of swelling that you'd have from a clot. It felt like pedal edema from congestive heart failure. And her heart had some issues, but not to the degree where I would say, oh, we need to implement diuretics. And her echo did not show congestive heart failure to that degree I said, Look look, this doesn't make sense. Are you eating anything really salty out of noere I add no salt I don't do this I'm like, do me a favor. Keep a journal Well we'll do an ultrasound to rule out clots because like you want to be thorough, there's no radiation, low risk tests. Keep this journal She goes, there's nothing obviously on the ultrasound messages me on the messaging portal and goes So the prosciutto I started implementing in my diet actually is very rich in sodium I'm like, wow, I thought that was pretty common knowledge. Oh my God. It is not, dude. It is so funny. I worked for a physician's office for six months before I became a medic. I was actually, I think it was just an AMT at the moment I was getting ready to go to medical school And I was doing what your nurses do. The patients would come in, I would do my basic stuff with them, check their vitals, all this stuff and wait for the physicians to come in So, um I had this patient come in and they had CHF and they were like, d, just feel really dehydrated. And I was like, just drink more water. Just like you got to drink a lot more water if you don't want to feel dehydrated. They can't breathe The doctor comes out and he goes, Hey, Do tell that patient to drink more water? I go, Yeahah it goes, Jesus b us. you sort of' exact words were stop giving people advice. I was like, I'm sorry. That happens a lot from well intentioned advice. Yeah ye. I've even seen this with residents where this is a hyper specific case, but if someone has Um A thyroid cancer that's been treated sometometimes they would give additional thyroid hormone really make sure that your levels are super low of TSH so that you don't regrow this cancer tumor And because of that, if you check just the TSH, you'd say, oh my God, we're giving them way too much thyroid hormone But it's being done purposefully so that we don't regenerate this cancerous tumor And then the resident will start adjusting and I'm like, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. You're gonna regrow their tumor. Please don't do that. God. And sometimes in healthcare, you learn very quickly that why it's so humbling. Just because something makes sense, it might not be the right move or just because you have the right intention, it might not be the right move Very, very tricky to figure that out. That That's what I love about physicians and people that are just truly good at what they do. Like I was saying before, when we I watch like certain TikToks or whatever and you just listen to that double board certified guy like I listen. I'm like, dude this guy is incredible. Well, there's a new genre. It's called competency porn Oh whereere you just watch people who know what they're doing like That's why the pit, I think is so successited. Do you watch that? Yeah, I don't watch it, but I've heard nothing but incredible things about it. Ccause it's just like watching people who are really good at the thing that they do Because we kind of live in this era where on social media, there's a lot of people who claim they know what to do. Yeah. When push comes to sho, they don't know shit. Yes. I Are there people spreading misinformation about fire safety and Not really, man. Most people are pretty good about it, than Godd. No one selling like a miracle rescue kit or something? No, but dude. And again, this is still some of the stuff is still preliminary and coming out, but like you talk about like the guy that wants to adjust something that's really going to screw something out. By the way, I saw I had a lady going to a third degree heart block because Her cardiologist gave her a calcium chanel blocker and someone else gave her a beta blocker. and they must have not communicated or she didn't tell them and like really mess upuff. So lithium ion batteries for a long time. they were and stuff is still coming out about this, but taking fire blankets and putting them over the cars when they're on fire extinguishes the fire, then allows it to cool down. It doesn't keep going into the thermal runaway is what it's called Well, what they found, again, still stuff coming out about it, was that you're trapping all those very dangerous explosive gases underneath that that such a tent, but under that blanket and it could make an explosive environment So like dam if you do, dam if you don't what's the best way to approach these things? Now that we have more EV's and charging stations, are there fires related to those Yes, no, reallyally. Yeah. The I don't know about the charging stations themselves, but you're gonna about it. Yeah, you're gonna to see more and more fires that with EV's, it's inevitable. I forgot if this was Secretary Pete Butiger. Someone was mentioning to me how because these EV's are heavier, O the highways, for example, the barriers that prevent people from sliding off are now not strong enough because these cars are heavier. That's crazy. that now roads have to be adapted, etca for the electric car environment. Is there anything you guys are doing differently when you come to a car accident scene when it's in EV versus ion O our biggest is we don't want fires to happen at any point in time and it's so rare that you see a combustion, you know, regular gas fueled fire starting or on a automotive vehicle starting These EVs, it's the hardest part is we just don't know what to do yet. We don't know how to fight them. I mean If it goes into thermal runaway, if it's just the catch' on fire and it's just the components around the batteries on fire, it's not a big deal you know we're just water is going to be totally free But if it goes in a thermal runaway, which is one battery overheating, then catching the next one, the next one, next one And if it's inside of that actual compartments or inside of the pack itself, we can't access it So we can spray water on it all day long, but it's not getting in there to cool it down. So we can cool the battery pack Hopefully if it's just that and hopefully cool enough to where we can prevent the thermal runaway. But The big issue they're having is when they cool it down, then you have a tow truck show up When it moves, it can set back on fire again So they're taking him, they're putting him inside of dunk tanks. Wow. It's like a bomb squad is coming out. Yeah. Jesus. It's not as common as people make it out to be. And it's anything new is terrifying. Of course. And that's so they're coming out with different things where You can take a nozzle put it underneath there It's specifically made to drench it and hopefully cool down theral runaway. But then they're having piercing ones. Well they'll go in, they'll pierce the battery pack and then put it out. But our big thing is just trying to cut off the electricity and then kind of go from there Gate the safety there. Yeah. Like in my race car, I have a fire extinguisher, but it's not a handheld manual w I have a giant red button that I have to press and I think it just explodes in the car. Yeah I don't know it. No. I think right? Isn't that be I haven't to use it. I haven't had to use yet, but you know what's funny. So I crashed my car in Indiana.. Great, Great job, Mike. And smoke billowed inside the car I don't know how I knew. because I shouldn't have known. but The smoke was coming from I hit the rear tire against the wall and then the tire kind of got jammed. So as the car was rolling to a stop, the brake and everything created a bunch of smoke.. It wasn ant actual fire smoke It could have easily been a fire smoke And there should have been a world where I considered pushing the button, but I didn't at all. So if I press that button somethinghing they said it explodes. There's Maybe hey, listen, I'm not an expert on all things extinguisher. I can tell you back in the day they used to have little hand grenade ones where you threw it in there and an explos. Yeah. Did you ever use one of those? No, We're talking years years before. I could see you guys in the firehouse just messing with each other just like, Y No, but there is a story about that a guy We get there, the guy had pulled the pin and thrown a modern extinguisher into the fire and it didn't put the fire He threw the actual Yeah, the whole extinguisher it doesn't do anything. Does it ever explode I mean, it might if it sits there for long en a period of time, but I can't imagine it where that would end up happening. So for yours, I'm not sure. it may explode or it may it may just be that it is charged with whatever that chemical is, that agent that's gonna to put out the fire. because I assume it's spraying in your gas tank area as well as is it also going in the a? I think an exploding area. Everywhere Well, and I don't know if exploding is the right term But it's clearly not it's bolted down. It's not like a point in shooting that I pick up and shoot. And you just punch that b. So you punch a bus there's a button And it reminded me, this is such a random thing to bring up, but it reminded me of the button that I flew in F sixteen with Air Force Thunderbirds And they were like Just so you know this is the button and this is the seat thing in between your machine. Do not touch this unless like You're ready to jump out. And I'm like, wait, why are you saying do not touch it what if I need to jump out? And they said that This is a bilateral U switch So if I pull it The pilot also gets thrown out hly. And this thing's worth like, fifteen, twenty million dollars. like Do not do this The level of trust Yeah to just send in a YouTube dude And be like, ititch, don't pull that. That's fifteen million dollars. And then've gotta be the right YouTube guy becausecause there would be people that would push that. what's crazy is It's not like you have a parachute on. Your seat is the parachute. So your seat gets What? Dude Again, respect for people that created that. Like someone was like, Rpect who uses that comfortably? Yeah. No, I'm tell you those C coast Guard guys, when we go out to those shifts, I told you this before the like literally, he's like ting and I've never been on, I'm not comfortable in boats period. My biggest fear in life is being twelve miles out. my boat goes down and I got to just sit there and burn in the sun ' I'm a ginger. But hease literally putting that on me. and he's like, you know, just if you go in the water, I'm like, hold on Aren't you the coast Guard? What you mean about if I'm the water things happen? it should inflate?, Oh my Godd. And then I'm like, thenen what happens? He goes, they should send a helicopter. I'm like Dude, what is happening now? Like. I love that it's always sh. Yeah, I'm positive. This guy was like, I'm gonna to mess with this firefire. But they're like, dude just six foot waves cool You know what's interesting, given the era in which we live where The majority of the country is either overweight or obese. Are you Going into scenarios into people's homes where someone is extremely obese, morbidly obese and you need to get them out. what do you how do you handle that Thankkfully we've been able to adapt and if there's if it's really bad I'm saying four hundred pounds a. four hundred pounds. Anyone over a certain weight, I couldn't give you that exact we. can call we can call a unit that is specifically for that. Really? I've only had one patient in my eighteen years of being at the fire service where I had to call another unit to transport them just for their own safety because they have obB units or not ob obese units like you obese units where they can bariatric units where they'll show up and it's a wider stretcher with a bigger vehicle. Well that I get, but actually moving them we'll figure it out, man. if they are down on the stairs or like, what are you we We're gonna to grab feet? Straps Yeah, straps. We're gonna grab fe. We're going to grab we call carryalls We're gonna put it underneath them. We're going to move them as best as we possibly. And that's scary in the midst of an emergency Health emergency is one thing, but when all of your lives are at risk. Yeah, it's like I said, it's we're going to figure it out, man. That's that's that's our job. you're calling audibles, basically. Yeah. you're saying. Yeah, we need to you're creative. So we're lucky, man, because like I said, were we're firebase, the MS service. So We have a minimum of four people showing up on a call Sometimes depending on it's cardiac arrest, we're going to have you six to ten people showing up. You go to some of thesev private ambulance companies, they don't like they got two people showing up. Yeah two people showing up what do you? That's it. They're going to call some more people they're going to call the fire. A lot of times local fireres stations will show up. They're just not tied together. so they'll get lift assist, that kind of thing. But there's just some people that They're showing up and Response times are bad, EMS is probably at its lowest. it's been in a very. How does one check for their area what the response time is I'm sure they can look it up or they can call their local fire department. they can pull the stats, Yeah, that kind of stuff. Like I said, we're fourty to six minutes. If you're in a more rural area, then it's probably going to be a little bit longer just depending on what's going on Are you oftentimes, again, this is my knowledge for movies, Scott, I feel like I learn everything from television. me too. Are you rescuing cats fromrint? No, no, no, come on Oh, yeah, dude. That always felt like if there was misinformation that's one hundred percent accurate. Really. Oh right, you know what? I' the biggest thing that's inacurate our firefighters is they say that we sleep They say that's all we do. We play video games in. Do you not play video games? I don't play video games. I have seen it, but we're not to point that out.. I have played a video game a couple of times. But the sleeping part. Sleep does happen. It is possible, but yeah it's gonna to happen at some point, especially when we're around for four hours. You wouldn't want guys staying for twenty hours stight. It's horrend. U But, you know, the truck I'm on right now, we average four or five calls after midnight. so we'rere we're up all night, that kind of thing. Yes, cats all the time. Cats at aes Yeah in a month. How many cat calls do you get That could mean two things. Yeah. sixteen to eighteen per month? I'm kidding.s.'sice. You are now no longer the firefighter. We are katsvers. That I would say probably two to three a year a year. Yeah. We're not like we're not like going out there all time, but I just pulled one out of a u So we get on we get unseen. someone there's a cat in the drain and we're like, there's no cat in the drain.it there isn't? I was like, was like, isn't really a cat in the drain? then? You're like,' the walk of Fock. L like, I'm telling you it's down there. So we're sitting there and we' I'm like no way. there's a cat in the drain. So pop open the sewage cover, look down in there. it's a hu water I can stand in this thing And look down there, there's a cat. So I crawl down there We have a fore gas meter, so we bring it down there to make sure there's nothing toxic down there but go down there and R run over and grab, bring him them back. one ye. So you are rescuing cat. Yeah. you're a cat hero. Yeah, we're cat heroes ye But people call us all the time, man though. Is there any time people call you and you go, why the hell do you call? there's nothing here? That's a really I think it's probably the same lane that you kind of go in where it's like There's nothing wrong here. you know, they called they People call like They'll ask us to blow candles out or no yes. comeome on. I think gu I called three in the morning, said he was having a heart attack. He's like, I'm having a heart attack. My chest is killing me Hes saidving a panic attack. No o. So we and when we send our units there, everybody shows up. We're walking up to this and he sticks his head He opens up the window and he goes, Hey man I was liying, I'm not having heart attack Were like, o, well, what's going on? Like maybe just miscommunication goes He's got a refrigerator plugged in in his what do he called his front yard. He's like Can you just grab me my ball of water out of there, man, I guess. Come on. somewhere dud. Do you is that a crime It should be. It should be Dude, we've had people call us We had we called frequent fllyers and it's nice but in term. We had some callings four times a day Four times a day for months. it's like it's a huge deal to get people. We want people to call nine hundred eleven. like if you're thinking nine hundred andleven, we want you to call nine hundred and eleven because someone might be like, ah, I just smell a little bit of smoke. There's probably nothing going on. Like there's a fire behind their wall or something like that And if you're thinking ny oneven let us show up, and I've had both sides of it where we show up we're like, dude, this is insane. Like you really called for this And we've also had where it's like, you should have called a month ago, man, What what are you doing? Like, let's take you in the hospital. That scary. You know, I remember the first time I called N one I was on a bus. Uh, when I was in grade I moved from Brooklyn to Statten Island, so I would take the bus from Sten Island to Brooklyn and While I was on the Verersano Bridge, which is one of the longest suspension bridges. I think it's the second longest in the US. Golden Gate, I think it's first And in the middle of it Bus starts slowing down, smmoke fills the whole bus Everyone kind of goes off and I don't know why, maybe from the movies I was certain it was going explode and the bridge was gonna collapse. Dude you know what it people would be dead? If every car accident they bl. Jesusus, we've had four dead people this month. everyveryone's car keeps exploding. I was That was all that was in my head So everyone neatly disisembark the bus, I ran off. and Everyone's just standing and they're like,, we' wait the police to come or a fire department to come I don't want this thing to explode and then I'm left standing here. So I just started walking down the highway It's not look like getting away from that is not a bad idea. And there are some I've just see I've se a video recently where I think it was a natural gas U bus, I'm not sure, but it exploded. Look at that. I was ahead of the game at age twelve You know, you wereelve I missed that part of the ceway. Where did you? You did?' great. So I started walking and the bridge itself, I believe is two miles. I was halfway. so I had a mile walk and as I'm walking, I call called nine onele Okay. let them know if this happened as if they weren't going to show up anyway And what's scary is I was on there's two levels to the horizontal bridge upper or lower. onn the lower level, Kind of a little pathway. It's not meant for walking, but there's a little bit of a pathway. And in between the pathway and the road, you could see the water And I have a deeath, fear of heights. So I'm walking this thing and I'm trying to look what's happening on the bus, but I don't want to turn my head Beuse I had this fear that God forbid, I'm gonna walk off the bridge.ike I would to just jump off or the wind would blow too. because it also swways a little suspension bridge boy that was a scre. And then as I'm a hundred feet away from the exit. to my school U, a police officer pulls up to, You're not allowed to just walk here I I know, but my thing is on fire, they're like another bus is gonna to come pick you up walk you off the exit So I had to get on for like one hundred feet and then it'll let me out. I'm proud of you for still going to school That's where you and I said are you kidding me? I would the other way. I tell everyone the story. I'm a survivor, baby. I would expl. The story became ten. The story became way more dramatic. Oh man. I would wait home and be like, momom, I can't go to school. day was on virus. You know why? It's becausecause you did not have a Soviet father. My father, you didn't go to school 'cause it was a fuck I'm gonna let you on fire.'s It's true. Like you couldn'tay home for anything. See, I would rather people overreact to things like be careful saying that. Well to a point. like I would rather you I would rather if you're not sure the threshold fires yes. This should be low. Yeah. Like if it's gonna to be like, oh go God, I don't know Like get away from it. If you're not I stand by this. I tell people when I teach CPR, if you're thinking nine hundred eleven, call nine eleven.ike let us show up, man. L number one, we don't charge where I'm at. we don't charge just for showing U We only if it's a fire service, it's another thing But but for EMS, we don't charge when we show. We only charge when for transports So if you're not sure, just just let us come there. most people are not going to call, but if you're not sure, dude, that's what we're here for. Hold on is there like, let's say I call called the fire department had a fire they put out the fire Do do I have to pay for that? It depends. I'm not like super up on the billing piece of it, but know Edina Yeah we have to look that up Let's put a disclaimer up on your thing. obviously, you're very familiar with the wildfires that happened on the West cooast U peopleeople, rich people. hired private firefighters. Do you hate that? No, dude. I don't. Oh yeah, de. Okay. ' they take away the resources from I don't like it's so hard for Me to be mad at somebody for doing something like that. I don't know if they were short on resources. I not I wasn't really well versed in that. the reason they were angry. Sam is well versed on this. People are upset about it because firefighters who could help other people will stand at X celebrities' house and not help the surrounding area because they're responsible for what paid to go Okay, yeah I could see people being upset about that. Yeah That would be, especially if Dude the thing with wildfires, so I'm a structural firefighter. There are just wild lland firefighters, and then there's the combination of both. So like out in California, those guys are gonna be doing wildland firefighting and structural firefighting. That stuff's insane. So wild lland firefighting is by far one of the craziest things that I've ever seen Because with structural firefighting, what we're fighting is typically contained in a structure, right? If it gets out, then we can do exposure protection, that kind of thing That is not. and then it can dictate its own wind patterns. It can spread incredibly fast, faster than we could ever fight. And then it can change directions at any point in time. You hear that all the time U So for those guys, and then the other thing with those guys is it's called mandatory. So my department is short staffed right now. So I'm supposed to only work twenty four hours, but literally I was supposed to be mandatorory a couple of weeks ago. I give a doctor's note I Yeah. Thanks it. Almost every other shift, like guys on my crew are getting mandatories who works you want to go home? No, you're here for another twenty four hours Those guys can be sent off for twenty one days. So Hey man, we needaob you got to do some wild llandand stuff. So you're gone for twenty one days. And then depending on where they work, they could be brought back for one day and then sent back out for another twenty one So like it's crazy. shouldhould I don't know That's a difficult question to answer. I don't know what the end result of those other things were. wasas that fire coming through no matter what?. It you're going to be really good to stop a wildlland fire f from fire from destroying your house. I have seen these new things where they put billy pumps,, portable pumps inside of their pools, and then they just they have their own Fire roast the house. ye, I saw that. I never thought about that. That's good. So then trajectory of your life mechanic EMT firefighter Now YouTuber extxtraordinire. How did that happen? loose on the extraordinary? U once you get it to the seven figures, baby, you're short there. Just messing around, man. I don't know how it worked out for you, but we were messing around the station. The original name was National Geographics Fire Department Edition. We would hunt for different positions and The battalion chief, the bigger their belly was, the more gnarly they were, that kind of thing Yeah. But just messing around and like people were like, hey, man, I can relate to that. I would say that none of my calls that I talk about are unique like everybody across the world has run something similar, the exact same call So just slowly started growing it over time, saw more and more people enjoyed it. Green screening is what really just like set it into the stratosphere. that was insane U that I enjoyed so much being able to do because I never make fun of the actors or what they're doing because it's like they'rere gi roles. Yeah they're like this is who you are. Okay, cool And even the writers, the writers have to write fun, interesting stuff. It's just like just get the terminology right. Yeah Like they ran over a hose in one of them. they run over a hose and the hose bursts and they're like, That's it. We don't have any more water. It's gone. No more hose. like There's a thousand gallons in that truck right now. You got more than enough to putout the fire guys U So just start green screening, that's where my YouTube started. That's where it kind of setent me over a million And then the real things I've seen in shorts, That was I never twenty twenty four, I had I think it was one point five billion views on YouTube. L it was insane. Like it never made sense the amount of views that I was getting on there And it was just so cool because All the comments are positive, they're fun. Like I'll pick somebody off every once in a while, but I think it's just fun to not only make fun of myself because there's a couple of where I accidentally injected myself in an Epy pen. and crap myself in the back of a rescue. But just the stuff that we see every day kind of creates some sort of place for everyone to talk, you know? Sure. And how did your life change in That just I'm sure the same with you, like people recognize me, man.ike it's I have a ten year old daughter and I'll go to her school and like it's the only place that makes me uncomfortable. Like I walk in there and they're like, that's the guy and my daughter's like, Dad. come on. I offered to buy her pizza party, right? Yeah? Like once a year I'll just buy pizza for a class and she's likes like And she goes, Everyone says you're rich and you're famous and you buy pizza. I'm like, it's like twenty dollarsars. You're not giving them lobster serpenter dinner. I have a butler coming there. Let me spread my wealth The firefighting community is so like firefighting and EMS community they're so u heightenated It gave me an ability to be able to create an open line of communication with people. So I get to talk to brothers and sisters from all around the world. I mean guys FDIC, the fire Fire Department Instruct' conference was last week in Indianapolis. It's forty thousand first responders come together. It's insane, dude. It's an absolute blast But there's guys from Mexico, Guatemala, China, Japan These guys speak a handful of English and they come up, they'll take a picture of them me and they'll be like, dude, we watch your videos every day.. It's so cool, man. So I think it made my world smaller in a really fun, exciting way. And then I'm able to share like you do, just pieces of medical information in a fun comedic way to People that hopefully learned something they're able to utilize it in their personal lives. Yeah, when you made the choice to do the green screening of yourself into the show I'm curious, given the fact that the reaction world was so popular at the time, why did you choose to do the green screen approach as opposed to just a standard reaction? So I did two or three regular reaction video.. And and I thought it was fun. And then one day so this' gonna shock you, man, but I have ADD like severely. And my brain is always like, well, what's the next thing I can do? How can I make myself just slightly different than make the person that's done it before me U And I was I had a green screen, bought it for the house. I was like give us a job, man. Okay. And I did it and I mean I probably average views fifty thousand views at the time. I put that first one out, dude. It had like four million views in the first like wow. In the first like week or something like that. It just crazy for me at the time. Okaykay, this is it. And I can have more fun because then I can physically interacts with the person. I can really show what the scene is looking like and it makes me sad because I love Rob Low and I don't like God what's what's the Lay the pololice officer in nine hundred eleven ammazing actress. I don't know. Yes.. L look at that. Angela Basset is my she's my favorite actress. I find it every time I'm in a video with her. I'm like, Ohh good, I love you Angela. Anywways, this is all wrong. This is. So wait, we never actually answered the question. Tacoma FD was your most accurate? What was the least accurate? Station nineteen was is that the spin offff of Gray's anatomy The one that was in Seattle They just like att no point in time Any of that makes sense. Like never. And then brother, if we were sleeping with each other in the station as much as they were, we'd all be fired. there be no Where are you not allowed to date other firefighters? You can date other firefighters, but if you're actively having sex like yeah, they' like they would come out of the battalion chief's office like, w, that was a fun. onene of the guys are like, great job. L Jesus that U And then they again, the verbiage. there's my favorite one ever was they're fighting a structure fire. The fire is in the house But it's a security house. So like everything is like well fortified Um, and they are like canan't fight this fire. We can't get in there to fight the fire and the girls like U the captain's like, well base the turkey and he's like, Yeahah, let's base the turkey. I'm like What that was a firefighting turn that they just made. We're like, what's the base of turkey? Like we close everything in the house. We close all the windows, all the doors. We let it stay inside and then we spray it from the outside. And that cools it down. I was like, Nope, no.ose Nope. This is someone's interpretation of what they think firefighting. was like This is it's just again, a fun firefighting because now the shows have gotten a little more accurate. Really? because one of the shows that I was considering reacting to, firefighters went into space I So I don't know. So this is where I'm like, o We would never do that a million dollars No. But you go out with the Coast Guard. That' I'll tell you right now, NASA calls me and they're like, Jason, we need you to go to space to fight fire. I' like, I'm going. We're all gonna die. They're putting on this suit.'re like this should autoinflate. This should autoinflate. You should have oxygen Yeah, I u the actually the one that's that is quickly catching up to the worst is the newest one Nashville nine eleven. that one's just again, no I don't they're cutting out Is anyone gonna to reach out to you to write or have you thought about writing I would love to write. I would. So I do all the writing and editing for my videos and fire department coffees as well. And I love the writing process. It's very cool. And I would do it. It's just one of those like, even as a consultant they should bring you. Dude, I would love to. I don't think I don't know if they won't be afterter now. Not sure if this is true or not, but somebody told me on that movie ambulance that there was a scene and supposedly the consultant there had seen my green screens and went to again, I don't know the stre or out, but went to Michael Bay and was like, hey You see this If you shoot that scene this is gonna going to happen. Supposedly we rewote it. I'm not sure if that's true or not if it was, I'm gonna just stick with that. but wow You know what came into my head that I should have asked you earlier And you mentioned volunteer firefighters. Why in the world Does a volunteer firefighter exist U lack of funy There' So like what so like an area just has no firefighters and then a couple of people go, we got this. So firefighting was Born from volunteering. the first firefighters ever were all volunteers. They all got into this for free. and when did that a timeframe? A long time ago. nineteen hundreds, eighteenunch I want to say eighteen hundreds, maybe seventeen hundreds. I wantan to say seventeen hundreds, ye U Whoever knows that fact right now stop checking I don'ult think. They're gonna greened him this interview sitting next to at mic. That would be amazing. People like, I'm going to green spereed myself into your videos. I'm like, please do it. It would be amazing. That would be so good Um, but it was born from that and then slowly made it to where the first paid firefighters began. But if you have an area where they just don't have the tax base to be able to support a full time firefighting department, then volunteers will come in. I love the fact that people do that. They're literally working nine to fiveives. Th they're getting up at two AM to go grab a fire truck and drive all the way out to wherever to fight a fire, to hopefully save somebody. So they don't stay at the firehouse. They're kind of at home and they get a page and then they go out. Or those big sirens? Yeah, I have them near at my house so You will have places where people will stay the station itself. And then some places have figured out a budget to at least have one person on shift to where They're staying at the station, they can grab the fire truck, everyone else knows the address to show up to and then they show up there and then they can fight the fire. Got it can't believe that exists. That also exists for EMS as well.. EMS, a large portion of EMS personnel are also volunteers. And to be a EMS volunteer I think like there's no Nothing. but if you if you're truly one hundred percent of volunteer, you get nothing, you just show up. some of them will be paid per call talking fifteen minutes. Yeah or fifteen dollars, sorry, Oh fifteen dollars. No, yeah, you're not you're not getting a ton of money for doing that kind of stuff. twenty bucks, something like that. I mean, the person should tip. Are you allowed to accept tips? No Really? it's in the hynbook? Yeah, it's ethically not So like in my ethical handbook patients are allowed to gift you things that are of nominal value, like something below thirty dollars or whatever. Are you allowed to do that? People will show up with like baked goods. So they'll show up with like sealed baked goods or something like that. It's great. I tell people unless you have a good rapport with a fire station, don't show up with like homemade baked goods. We're just ' becausecause you don't know We just don't know you know somebody made us pot brownies or something like that. And that' be a big problem Yeah. We'd have to work that whole shift, you know Now Do your coworkers treat you differently No, they treat me worse. They say Yeah God forbid anybody recognize me and take a picture. Oh my go, they're so. I got asked this question a lot. I'm curious if you've been asked it and I'm going to ask it right now Why do you still continue to be a firefight I love it what What brought me into this field is firefighting Dude I'm telling you, man there's you sit around a station You run calls, like you get to save lives. you get to do the stuff the reason that we went to school U, I love creating social media videos. It really is. It's really fun. It's a good outlet. Yes, It's a great outlet and especially because I get to write it and and film it and edit it. I get to see something come from whatever this small piece of thought was to an actual product that's funny and people laugh. Yeah. So that is fun. but I don't think anything will ever take place of the reason why I got into this. I'll keep doing it. I'm eligible to retire in two years. We'll see what happens then, but And also the other thing I say, a lot of people have quit their nine to five or quit the reason why they got into this. A, you lose purpose in the reason you were doing it in the first place. And B, the social media world is not nice. Like they will wake up tomorrow and Facebook or Ma, whoever be like We're not gonna to monetize your videos anymore. Thanks foring. Now you have no business. Yeah. So is that why you launched the coffee company? So Fire Department Coffee was founded just before We actually found at the same time kind of. Okay F depronic, fedm coffee, Lchider reach out to me. He's like, man, just lach this coffee company, I love to work with you So we started growing it from there. And I was lucky enough to be able to grow both social media channels, which has been very cool And we're in ten thousand retailers, Walmarts, Sam's club, like all got to get stuff. Yeah, I said you guys a bunch of. I don't knowamar back to his house or now, but Sam did not give me. And why are you hiding it for me Did you know did you not get it? Oh man. Its the same drink it all.. Are there different variations? light roast? Yeah, we have light roast, dark roast. We just launched instant espresos and instant coffees, which are incredible. Like if you want a good hot or cold espresso, just throw this in your mixes instantly with it So you and I share something, I don't know if you know, but both of us have had medical emergencies on planes. Oh, tell me about yours. Both of them were coming to New York by the way. Not on this trip. No, not on this trip. No. First one was just a basic like diabetic emergency. got up there. he was we checked his sugar. He was fine. I think we gave him a little oral glucose and he was good to go U, but the other one I was was sitting u I was sitting in my seat and The page comes over you know, is there any doctors or Paramedics by way no doctors ever jump up whateeverver they say that they might be the only one. All the PhDs are like literature. literature But I I get up, I go, hey, what's going on? This lady's like my grandpa, or my dad is still in the bathroom. I'm not sure what's going on So they open up the door He had he went to cardiac arrest in there. So pull him out, start working them And where are you on the I'm in the back of the planike I'm saying is the plane close to? No, no, we're like midple. Yeah, we're probably I think We were still an hour out or something like that. So we we start working them. Do they have a whole host of medications on that?ED all that stuff. I was so impressed by that. I managed to get a line on him, give him Ey while we're fine. and I was going based offy. So I was going based off of what the AED was telling me. because if if it's saying no shock advised, he's most likely in an Aystoly if he doesn't have a pulse. So you gave him Ey because he was an Aystoly? Yeah, so we I g him end up giving an Ey. And then every once a while he go back to a shock U And we I think we shocked him four times on the way there But the funny part is I'm going back and forth with the flight attendant, we're doing CPR. And She she's like, we have we have to give him breaths every time. And I was like, we can do hands only CPR. Like that's fully acceptable. And she's like, we have to do. I was like, I teach this stuff, man. like we're good, dude. We've ended up they ended up having an OPA It was able to drop an OPA and we were to start doing that as well. So but it was absolutely incredible experience. We landed and the pilot was like, Hey, man, I'm pretty sure I broke leg. FA's get us here as quickly as possible. Yeahah. But they they card them off and I'm got I didn't get Ross on there, but I don't know what the end result was. mean I'm assuming you didn't land in two minutes. No, no, not in two mines. No we did CPR. I rotated back and forth with them. It was incredible thoseose flight attendants, man were absolute rock stars. They knew exactly what to do this. I was like, hey, this guy's in cardiac arreS We got to start doing CPR and we started rotating back and forth so fast. So twenty minutes. U I think we landed. I want to say it was thirty or thirty five of us to in CPR. Yeah. Not a good outcome. Yeah Yeah brain without oxygen Yeah, that's going to be a problem. Yeah. Yeah, did they u what airline was it I want to say see it was Delta. Yeah. And did they give you some pon code, they gave me two hundred fifty dollars my. I got a hundred. D I got a hundred. So clearly not they're struggling. Maybe now that spirit is out and they're collecting all their business. I f American man. They've been great too. Oh yeah. yeah. They've been really good Honestly, like I used to pick favorites and then like In two months, it would change because like some companies shifted their business policies and youCO came in and I'm like, They all suck. Yeah. ye. But They get to there safety safely. That's dude, That's all I care about, but flying is Are you scared adventure? No, it's just an adventure, J's always a flight. Oh yeah's alwaysure. No, I'm slightly afraid to go on boats for long periods of time. Myike cruise ships. And that like cruise My wife's like, let's go on a cruise sh Noope, I'm. Noravirus people