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That's mercMerch dot com hats, t shirts, hoodies waiting for you and your wearing pleasure. Now today, we have Christina coming on the show and we dive into the kind of spiritual warfare most Christians never get taught to recognize Christina shares how God pulled her out of trauma and into deliverance, intercession, and strategic warfare against occult systems operating through bloodlines, land, churches, and hidden networks. We talk about Tennessee, the Appalachia mountains, mind control, handlers, SRA survivors, and the ancient darkness she believes has been embedded in this region for a long time But more than anything, this conversation is a warning that the church cannot afford to stay asleep while the battle around us gets louder Let's get to Christina right now All right, today we have Christina here in stududio. How are you? G. I'm excited to be here. I'm glad you're here This this conversation I want to lay the groundwork for the audience to I want them to learn about you because As far as I know, have you been on anybody else's podcasts before? Not to this degree. Okay. ye So most people probably don't know you or aren't familiar with your ministry I wasn't. In fact, I wasn't even remotely familiar with your ministry until you got here and started educating me on more things. I was like, oh wow, this is totally deeper than I thought, you know It is And I think it's important for people to understand who they're about to listen to.. And I want to lay the groundwork on my end first for the audience. And I have Instagram open here right now on november first, twenty twenty four, you messaged me. And I remember I saw this message probably like a few weeks after you sent it. Okay And something in me was just like,, I don't think I just don't feel You just don't feel it, right And I'm looking back at the the messages here and I reached out to you August of last year. So I was telling you how in August we had all those interviews and we were in a really deep stretch. And in that stretch of all the chaos that all gets brought For whatever reason you popped up in like my mind. and I went back and read the original message. And I was like, I think wow, I think it's time to bring her in. And I didn't know anything about you. Wow. All I knew was the original message, which So you basically you remember the original message that I was moving here? Yeah, yeah. So basically you said a woman named Kathy whose son's friend friends with Luke, comes swming from Purry creatures. Yeah Tld me about you. Okay. I was waiting near the couch for the line to go down and missed you.ember that? My call is cosmic warfare and spiritual mapping. In twenty twenty one, the Lord said said a clarion call from Tennessee was calling and in twenty twenty four, we would establish he established me here or there. Well, he did I moved to, I'm not going to say where you moved to and live on a high mountain I'm a feeler and can sense the unseen power and influence Not too familar this is I love this. notot too familiar with your work So I'll listen to some of your stuff this weekend. The Lord called me to tear down Solomonic magic and Sciops by I can't pronounce it A Kino, Akino. Michaelino. He has train he has training bases there in Tennessee. Yeah. Hope you have intercessors. It's going to be needed for all this hour. Would love to hear more or connect as the Holy Spirit leads And you remember that message? Yeah. I didn't even know you're going to bring it up right now. I know. That's why I told you, I said I didn't want to I had things I had to say.. Only Jesus. You mentioned about the spiritual mapping. and I was supposed to have U Dr. Laura Sanger. here in studio, I believe in June of last year and it got pushed to December And as we were developing the game plan for her arrival her and Vicky Joy Anderson came in together. and For the first time in my life, I had the opportunity to participate in spiritual mapping with doctor Laura Sanger.. And we did that in this local area And Dr. Laura Sanger. Joseph Z when he came here Kim Walker Smith when she came here They all said that this area has a In my words, this is be translating because they all said it a little differently, but there's like a dark, heavy spiritual oppression here And u And you mentioned that in here in your message And when I moved here I I really felt Like I was coming here because God was retiring me. Like not in a sense of like, I wasn't gonna be a podcaster, but in a sense of like, hey, man Fhe easy, takeake a break. You know, we'll put you down in Tennessee, where conservative, the Bible belllt, you'll be around your people. justust take it easy. and do your podcast. And I had no idea that he was moving me to the front lines. Aazing. And so in the process of me being here for three years I've come to understand that He moved me to the front lines. He wasn't putting me in retirement. He was actually put me right into like the battle the heart of it. Yeah. Yeah. And in the And I feel I just feel like God's presence right now I recently last year discovered another piece of this whole thing And I think it's important for me to not just share it with the audience as we're warming this interview up, but also with you We we uh Last year went through a lot of stuff. We're still going through it with the cancer Uh, my wife's overcoming cancer And u I was also, it was a it was less than a week from diagnosis. I had signed a contract to write a book And so less than a week later, I find out my wife is gonna to be going through this whole thing And I was like, manan, if I would' have known that wouldn't signed the contract because my mind is everywhere, right? Yeah. And so I'm still in the process of mustering my way through it But I was really stuck on a chapter that was me laying groundwork about my spiritual background and how my grandfather plays into that And like I shared on the show before with people that my grandfather, he did like big tent revival stuff.. Yeah, like he wasn't the like he wasn't Mario Marillo. But he was somebody that like Mario Marillo would bring in to preach. And he was pretty well known, I would say, up in like the easastern Pennsylvania area for preaching He was a washer repairman But on weekends, he preached. And And I was writing about this. And then my aunt called me, his daughter and My my Dad He adopted me. So my last name Merkel is an adopted last name. I'm Spanish. My biological father's last name is Diaz. and For my entire life, I felt like Merkel was a stupid last name. I was like, I'm a misfit. not I'm not really a Merkel. and I don't know where I belong. And my aunt called me and she said that She felt Like she needed to tell me that when my grandfather died over ten years ago now that he left a mantle behind and it's time for me to pick it up And It was a very long conversation and it was very profound and it impacted me greatly. And the next morning I woke up and I talked to my wife about the conversation And I told her, I was like, I don't understand why me. I mean, I'm not actually a Merkel. Why can't like one of his seventeen other grandkids pick up this mantle, you know 'cause I didn't know what that meant. Like what what does that What is this? you know? like I don't like I'm a podcaster. R. You know, I have my own thing going on And then it all kind of came together when Lindsseay said What does Merkel mean? And I told her, I was like, well, my mom always told me it meant merchant. and I thought that was stupid. Like we're just selling We're Germans selling fruit in a marketplace. And She looks it up and she's like I'm seeing merchant anywhere. And I said, what are you seeing? She's like the root word that Merkel comes from means guuardian of the frrontier. And I was like, that I mean, that's a big Whoa, whoa, whoa.s Yeah.raz. And like we had long discussion about, we don't need to rehash. And then I said to her I said, what is your last name mean? Your miden last name She looks it up and she says, it means spearbearer. And I was like Like God brought us together. I love it. And and if I had time, I would tell the world how God brought us together because From the outside looking in, we don't match at all. But God knew. And And it became very clear to me that I wasn't adopted into Merkel. I was actually created as a Merkel and God brought me into the Merkel family because that was actually how he created me to be. Like I graftedrafted exactly in Christ. I was grafted into the line because he Like my DNA, my spiritual DNA is Merkel written all over it. And he's like, you need to be in this line And so it's just crazy how it all comes together. Now I say all that because I moved here on this retreat mission and now I find myself in the sick of it constantly and What I knew of you coming into today. was just that message. And then if I go to your Instagram, it just says strategic intercessor and consultant governing the remnant cosmic warfare, deprogramming expert training, navigating complex cases. very Yeah like okay, it sounds like we're having a good conversation. That's all I know though, right? So I learned a lot about you that we will lay out here. Yesterday, I'm encountering a lot of spiritual warfare mentally Yeah. Like like this stororm is coming in. You know, and that was last minute Yeah leving and then my friend's like, hey, I don't, you know, I know Hurricane Helene like is triggering for a lot of you. Yeah, But there's a storm coming and I just get prepared 'ause I know you're going in town and I'm like, oh great. Yeah. So yeah, than. And I'm running around yesterday trying to get things prepared. And so like my mind is being taken away from this conversation. and I'm like, I don't even feel like doing this conversationmorrow. I just want to run around and gather wood for this terrible storm, right? All the milk eggs And so like like Jack and I were out to like ten o'clock last night getting stuff together And we're probably not going to need it, right? It's probably not going to happen. But we don't know. All that said Jack and I come back here to studio probably around six o'clock last night And we're pulling n six clclock is daylight. And we're pulling up the driveway here to the studio. So it's probably say four o'clock in the afternoon. Jack, get ready for the picture Um And as we're pulling up in this parking lot, I kid you not, we're greeted with an image of Lilith. and That's Oh. The Jeep.. Now I changed the background because I don't want people knowing where the office is. So I put the Jeep somewhere else. But that Jeep was sitting in the parking lot And Jack, show the next picture show what prayer does did the Jeep We it up Anybody says that they saw me with gas cans. They're lying. Yes. But we lose the fire. I saw that picture or saw the Jeep and Jack took the picture and I sent to a text group of different passures that I have and I said Lilith has arrived, fellas at the studio. And then this morning I'm getting ready and thinking about you and I was like She arrived yesterday and knowing just what I knew from your message about being called to Tennessee to wage war, I was like Lilith arrived yesterday. She Christina arrived yesterday. and I'm like And I told Derek yesterday how I was feeling. I was like, I feel like I'm being oppressed right now spiritually And I was like, it just all kind of just came together. And I was like, oh yeah, today's going to be a good day Today's gonna to be a good day because the enemy is threatened and we're ready to we got our boot stompers on. Yeah we do. So I laid all that out for the last ten minutes because I just wanted to kind of word bomb of that out to you so you have an understanding of where my mind and heart is on this. And I would love for you now to kind of tell the audience about you and how Um you got to where you're at with your ministry and how this kind of all unfold how God called you into way. and then you know your ministry what all you're doing. and just we'll let the conversation unfold. All right, friends, let's talk about our sponsor today, which is Ghostbed. and listen, it's May and the weather is starting to warm up. 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And here we are not even understanding that yet to the depths We're like walking in the dark Walking up and down mountains back Re forth. Yes, because I didn't, you know And who's the weed your kid my kids. Wow. And there was a big high mountain that we couldn't really drive up to get to our house. so we'd have to walk and there was like no internet. And it was just there was so much warfare and I was kind of just surveying the land Understand, And I went to the library, that's really what I do with spiritual mapping when the Lord takes me into new territory. And I always ask for my boundary. Like what is my jurisdiction? I feel like through immaturity or fragmentation or just ignorance, people can get pulled into territories and be totally outside of their jurisdiction. and then you come outside of the covering and protection of God And so it's really important to stay in alignment with that. But I had no idea The depths of what the land carries and even the mixture within Christianity and occultism. Wow. I think that's what I ran up against the most is that people want to hang ono their liilith and their Bible. You know what I mean? And They want to hang ono seducing spirits. And then they also it's like that scripture that talks about you can't drink of the Lord and the cup of demons. You can't sit at the table with the Lord, you know, and with demons, like you can't do both, but obviously many people have been. And I feel like the Lord has us in a position and a place to confront that. in a new way Because I feel like there's some of us that have gone through as a deliverance ministry, I did that for like fifteen years. I understand deliverance, inner healing, all the things, but we're past that. I'm like this this is straight up strategic territorial warfare, Ephesians six hundred twelve. Genesis three, fifteen, Genesis six, like Everyone's like, well, how could horrible things happen to kids? How can all this happen? It's like we laid down everything that the Lord equipped us to have. and we just went deaf and dumb. Wow, right? Yeah. And then you have And I think that's why and I'm kind of shifting gears, but I think that's why you have Christian saying um, you know, like I don't feel called to be a Christian. Even me just quickly to share like I was so anti Jesus Anti God, anti the Bible. neverever grew up with Jesus or the Bible And I just know that I would, you know, growing up, I would see five hundred churches and the city burning down. You know, I grew up in northern California. And I despise it. I'm like, why would I want to be a part of a church or have anything to do with this guy named Jesus pastors or molesting kids. You know, I had no idea the things that I know today, like the network of it and how The infiltration through freemasonry and just occultism, it is a whole structure and system of diabolical things u within the Western church, right? I'm not talking about global yet. Um Yeah. I mean, there's so much to share. I'm trying to just ask the Lord like which direction to go, but just to create a foundation, the church wasn't really allowing me to help people. So because I worked in mental health cris crisis intervention, I seen a lot of things like I would have Christians come and I'd do intake for people who would go into a complete mental psychosis, and I'd have to do an intake of a pastor's daughter. And it didn't make sense to me because I'm like, well, where's the church and I just got saved at that point. And I always had a heart and a passion to understand why people commit horrible crimes. Why are there spiritual things that we don't quite understand And so I had that Mindset of the why U since the beginning, right And I think it started like young I think at eight years old, like I wanted to write books on mystery and I was like even like at ten researching things like why people do criminal things or how do they go into insanity or asylums I always was just curious and I think because I grew up cursed land It was completely cursed And there was nothing but domestic violence. So that's all I witnessed my whole life was generational iniquity and it was generational violence. So near death experiences point where I had my step dad come threaten too kill us all. He came with a loaded gun. I was probably thirteen And then at eighteen on the same property There was another attempted murder from someone that I was dating and Consistently. So if people want to know how does generational inequity work, it doesn't just people think it just falls off. Like you become a Christian and you know you're saved and everything just goes away. It doesn't. You have to actively engage and make warfare against it. And so that was me, even when I had a supernatural encounter with God because again, I don't want to have anything to do with Jesus And I would be around Christians, but they didn't have the fruit of it. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't convincing to me And I just didn't want any be part of it. I was extremely mean, hurt, you know, all the trauma, all the things And I didn't want to have anything to do with it. If anyone like talked to me about Jesus, I'd be like, all right, I don't want to hear that. Like I would be so mean. So sorry, people. But you're still planting seeds. Th were being planted and even though I rejected it. Right And I never opened the Bible until I was twenty five. And when I started reading it, I was like, wow This is interesting. But before I started reading the Bible for the first time, I had a supernatural encounter with God. I walked into a church, someone invited me, I did not want to go and I was like This is Deep Red Why is everyone clapping And singing, this is so weird. And then I sit down. I couldn't tell you what the pastor was talking about. I know I was twenty five in an abusive relationship and just going through all the things And then at the end of him preaching, I just started sobbing And I didn't know why. And I'm like, what is this? What's happening? How am I having all these tears? But I started shaking. So my eyelids were shaking, my face was shaking. and it was like the presence of God was just consuming me with love And I never felt that love before, you know, because a lot of us have gone through abandonment and rejection with our Earthly biological Moms and dads And so I was like weeping, feeling this sensation of I'm loved And I'm pursued after not really understanding, never open the Bible. And the pastor's like, that's the Holy Spirit. And I'm like, what the heck is the Holy Spirit? It' like that's weird. Like what does that mean? And he's like, do you want to accept Jesus and surrender your life to Jesus? I'm sobbing. And so I was like, yes, I do not knowing, you know, what the heck And that just transformed my life forever. But what's interesting is that I still wasn't satisfied with church And I would go and attend different services and I was like, there's more There's more to this Bible, there's more to the gospel. And so I got so entrenched with the hunger and the thirst to fast, like a new believer. I was fasting three days water. I was praying, I was reading, I think out of John and Matthew and just seeking him, like on my face, like on the floor crying, weeping, praying, understanding Jesus's ministry and who he is and then just having a hunger and a thirst for the more of him that I wasn't really seeing in Christian churches. So I know nothing about like the depths of like this denomination and you know, Lutheran Baptists like, I know little pieces along the way, but not really, you know? I'm just like, I just love Jesus. I had a supernatural encounter, you know, but that created that itself right there. qualif disqualifies you for some denominations. like supernatural counter, getet out of here. that's new. That's new to me. I mean, I've had a close Baptist friend and she was actually a babysitter. I knew why the Lord put me in her life because she was just strong baptists and beliefs But there was a lot of pain there and a lot of confusion and what she was battling in the Lord allowed me to help give language and prayer and understanding. But see ople it's like a program where you're programmed, there's such thing as Christian cults. There's such thing as Christian programming. And people who get drawn into Christian cults, they think, oh, well, we got out of that cult. You know, we're fine now. you know, dust it off, and it's like, no, you still have attachments to that land that you were a part of. You were still sharing meals with those people, that creates covenant There's attachments that you need to actively divorce yourself from when you're in cults because what happens when you don't, you're going to go be seduced and drawn to the next cult interesteresting And the next Christian cult and the next cult. It's funny you're saying that because just yesterday I had a guy in here and him and I were talking about East Tennessee. He's local I don't know what you would call him. Like he's I guess a monster hunter, you know? L like he like he's Um, I don't know where he is spiritually, but he's basically like an investigator. Okay. And he grew up in this area And one thing that him and I talk about a lot privately and I think it's spiled over onto the recording was his frustrations with all the people moving here. And I talked to him, I said It's not just people moving here. It's all the attachments that they have. one hundred percent and you're on point right there because that's the whole purpose. And that's why intercessors and watchmen are so important. And I believe you carry that. I believe I carry that. and there's many of us that carry that. So we literally have to ask the Lord to bring that security and uncontaminated groups of people to become the strike teams, the frontliners that are taking the land back from these powers princes and principalities. right? Like And I think that's why we saw what we saw in twenty twenty, why we're seeing what we're seeing in twenty twenty six. becausecause people left, they left their post, right And that was intentional, that was intentional to keep us deaf and dumb so that they can continue they need, right and keep people fractured. And I think people don't even understand What happens even with the chaos, okay, the chaos of the storm coming, right And a storm represents chaos. And then you have people. partnering with chaos. And so we as Christians, it'll try to come against us and cause chaos internally and externally and we have to war against that We can't just sit there and you know just take it. And so I feel like there's so much deception, right? People perish for a lack of knowledge. My greatest call to Christians is to I challenge them, ask the Lord, where do I have denial? Where does denial need to come down? Where do I have areas where the enemy literally has documents on me that I need to come out of agreement with, you know, and even territorially There's things that are connected in the land. But I think we're in a time where we can't remain church and Christianity as usual because the Lord did say I remember being in a church and he said, Christina you're a church within a chur And that was like three years ago and I was like, what the heck does that mean And then I found this book and I can't remember who wrote it, but it's on the cover. It said Christian against Christian And I was like, wow, okay. You're saying something, Lord. And so what I see in twenty twenty six is that there's two Streams right now of Christians and one stream They're pursuing self being lovers of self and bringing deep deception and that's a whole other story when it comes to like Um the star seeds and just the occultism, but coming in the n coming into the church. Yes, Yes. one hundred percent. It's already like mixing in as we speak and It's interesting how the Lord allows me to see these things behind the scenes first. so I'm able to recognize them when they're in people But then your typical Christian who refuses to break covenants and contracts with masonry and their bloodline or refuses to break contracts with demonic dreams that they had when they're little. Like these are all things that open a door for the enemy to what he does, right? Kill stillill and destroy. And so I feel like it's so important for us to discern. No one's discerning. And I think that's why we're in twenty twenty six in the Great Deception because I see people being pulled and falling away. And I don't want to go too far into that area because I feel like I'm kind of going somewhere that I'm not ready for yet with us with the conversation But yeah, I'm not sure where you're fine, you're fine. So u So who are you? No I was getting. No, but so you You originate from California? Yes, born and raised. And you Northern California. The faith as an adult. five. And you had a your walk in the faith as an adult has been a supernatural experience. supernatural you probably didn't even realize was a unique thing because you probably thought everybody in the church was feeling the same thing for the most part until God started revealing other things to you I just always felt different Right. So you did from the jump feel different than. Yeah, like I always felt like the Messiah is misfit. Like there's a scripture that talks about that. I don't know if it was Paul where he's like, I feel like I'm on a you know, stand and tomatoes are being thrown at me and I have the potato pillings in the garbage, right? You know,, but I've always felt like that misfit Um But I feel like we all have a role and a call to be warriors and to activate, you know the gifts and the calls and the inheritances and even with you saying like your name Um, I know for my name, Christina, it means follower of Christ. And you know, it's funny, it's like Christa didn't want have anything to do with Christ. And my name is Christina.. Christ is in my name. No choice. So it's like, you know, God's already predestined. the role in the call, you know, and we're just feeling it and being obedient and saying be it onnto me as it is in your word Lord. I surrender. I have to die to myself daily in this call and continue to pick up my cross and follow after him. But I feel like there's so many different timelines to my walk with Christ from twenty five until now forty one. I feel like I've lived a hundred years, honestly because there' Everything's been accelerated. And it's like the more you hunger for the more of Jesus, the more you hunger for the surrender in H, the more he'll pour out You know what I mean? But sometimes we block him Totally We completely block him from that. But Yeah, I'm trying to backtrack with my walk. I ended up working in mental health Um as Mabbe Christian and I started seeing things with like schizophrenia and just levels of crime because a lot of the clients that came in were deemed insane because of criminal crimes that they committed and then they'd be released to us for monitoring to see if they're able to be rehabilitated back into the community. And there was a lot of horrific cases. And so we would get the police reports, the psych reports, and as huge, huge stacks of case files, on each person, I mean, and reading everything and reading through everything and seeing what they went through. and you know, they served twenty years in the hospital or whatever. But there was always scripture And I couldn't understand that. why when people go into mental psychosis, they talk about Jesus. They talk about God, they talk about angels or speaking to me. Like I didn't understand that. You know what I mean? I'm like, why? Why is there demonic things and crimes and murders and rape and harm of children happening? And then they're talking about scripture and they're talking about Jesus and they heard God and they talk to God. And it's like it is literally You know what I mean? Yeah It's not God, it's not the true Jesus. So I feel like everyone is at a place where They've created this false Um, relationship, I guess with a counterfit Jesus. Do that make sense? It makes no sense. We had, u we had u Excuse me And lose my voice. Jack that out We had Wyatt Coateson here probably a couple months ago and his testimony is exactly that. he I don't want to put words in his mouth and and and I don't want to misattribute in my own understanding. So I'll just say it this way he believes that he was essentially working for a Antich Christ spirits. And in the process of that though He was deceived and he thought he was working with Jesus. A lot of them do. He was having sexual interactions with what he thought was Jesus He was like, whatever you sayic. It's so dyamic. And that's with people in N newew age too. I've been working with a lot and that's how I learned. I never went into New age or went into that. but The Lord has allowed me to have the grace to serve people during such hard times and vulnerable exposed places of their life and their journey. And so through Instagram, and that's kind of just backtracking where I'm like the church doesn't really want to hear what I have to say. They don't want me to help to train, to equip, to, you know, do anything. And I always felt like there was more than just deliverance. because I did see through my own journey of deliverance when I was introduced to it. I think it was in twenty ten or eleven when I first started learning deliverance. and I started learning it on my own becausecause my sister literally, okay, let me backtack. kind of back.' fine.. I feel like the Lord wants me to go here because this is this is important for people who need to learn how to intercede and strategic warfare. cant warfare. So I ask the Lord because I was mentally tormented when I got saved, shame, guilt, you know, just things that were in our family, incest, violence, like just dark things, right? And you feel gross. you're like you Before Jesus, and because I didn't grow up with religion or Jesus or anything, you know, I had no conscience. You know, you're just so lost and so broken And I never I was never one like, oh, I remember like, you know, the Spirit of God talking to me or angels, like none of that. It was just pain, violence, near death experiences, like my aunt being dragged across the room by her hair punched, my mom being beat, me being forced to watch her be beat. I was probably like I don't know, seven or eight. I lived in Germany. My stepdad was in the military, so we had to go to Germany. and I went through so much trauma. U You know, he would wake me up. He was in the military. And a lot of people in law enforcement and military, they have so much pain, so much trauma. They don't have what they need to heal from things they go through. and I think that's so important So even the fact of training and equipping thoseose first responders in military, it's so important, but I know there's two different realms when it comes to that community of Serving Lucifer and then serving God and people who don't even though God But I say all that to say that I went through so much trauma and so much abuse and then I started getting flooded with all the memories when I got saved And it started to oppress me torment me. And so I was like, okay, this makes no sense. Why am I feeling like these thoughts of suicide ideation? Why am I feeling tormented by like childhood stuff and just having all these memories and it was like spinning kind of, and it didn't make sense ' I'm like, Jesus, you know, if choosing you, if this is going to require this level of tonent, then, you know, I guess, but there has to be something else, you know? And so I just began to seek him and I said, Lord I said, if there's anything in me that's not of you Would you show me wouldould just show me And literally that's what set it off And it's like we have to come to a place where we engage our free will and we ask those questions to him, right? And He gave me a dream And normally when you have a dream when it's on your family land that you grew up on, it talks about generational iniquity And again, this land was so cursed that we would always say like the houses need to be burned down get rid of this. Nobody wants to inherit this, you know, like we want legacy, we want Genesis. I think what is it? one hundred twelve, like, you know, with the Abraham blessing, you know and be taken over to the territory that the Lord has. But I'm like, this ain't the land, right? This ain't the land. And I started learning territorial warfare and praying over the land with my own land And so in the dream I mean, God answered quickly, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like, if there's anything in me That's not of you Lord show me. So in the dream was going I was in my old house that I grew up in with a lot of abuse. in my bedroom and I was standing as an adult in my bedroom in the dream and I knew it was my grandparents' property in Northern California. And there was a snake And I picked up the snake orr no, there was a branch. Yeah, think you. There was a branch. It was just a branch. I picked up the branch and I started peeling it. And there was a snake in it And then the snake was kind of hidden and it was like looking that way. And then it saw that I can see it. It I exposed it because I removed what was hiding it. I feel like that goes into bloodline healing of generational inequity and all the things that come down through our DNA that we have no idea about, but Jesus does. And so the snake saw that I saw it and it went to like bite me and I grabbed it and then I just threw it and woke up And so that's when the Lord started teaching me about like, I'm going take you to scriptures about this. I'm going to start teaching and training you about intercession. And then the second dream I had I was in a little tiny wooden boat And there was like a huge leeviathan swimming in the water next to me. And I wasn't scared, I like jumped on it and started fighting it. And I was like, why What would you do that? I was like, what you do that? And then I woke up and then the Lord just started. And then after that, I remember him waking me up and this is probably like there's so many encounters I had with him of intimacy and love. but I remember him calling my name and he said, Christina Three times and I can hear and see the frequency and the sound of his voice and the colors moving throughout the hallway, like in the middle of the hallway of my room, leading me to the kitchen and he led me into a forty day fast. And he said, I'm calling you to a forty day fast becauseuse my family wasn't safe And my family hated my new relationship with Jesus They did not like the new Christina And Um, That brought a lot of pain. I mean, even my ex husband did not, he hated me And I think people are never prepared when you go through a revival. the persecution that you go through with your own spouse that you go through with your own parents, grandparents, you know, siblings. And so I went through so much persecution and oppression because of their own stuff that they weren't willing to confront, if that makes sense. I'm trying to think where to go from there because there's still so much, but that's scing of your sister. Yeah, because I'm asking the Lord, what's in me that, you know needs to be healed and Obviously, there's some things, right? If that's coming up in the bloodline. And so yes, my sister did show up. Um completely demon possessed. To your house? To my house. Yeah, not too long after this whole process And she she was, you know, lesbian lifestyle. She went through way more abuse than I did physically. And she's six years younger than me. So She literally showed up to my doorep car dropped off and drove off and she was gone. L she was like she was so gone, like disassociated. likeike you know, I'm like Who dropped you off? Like what are you doing And she couldn't talk She couldn't talk. She just walked in like a zombie I had her just go in the room, I called my mom, and then I started learning about. I started messaging pastors and people. I found one deliiverance ministry took her to them and they couldn't even help her She was biting her tongue An it The spirits wouldn't let her talk and they were like trying to cast her demons out and all this stuff and she wasn't saved. They were trying to put a Bible on her, notothing was happening and you know, people were trying to intercede and the spirit just had her bite on her tongue so she wouldn't talk. And it was literally driving her into insanity in the sense of not making her sleep or eat And she just looked so traumatized. like something did happen, right? I found out later, something happened so extreme. And so I'm like asking pastors like, hey, I need help, you know, And then one pastor was like, well, I have U Or we don't believe in that. Some people say we don't believe in that. Well, it's happening, sucker. L I tell you So we're presented with that today because you can't hide or avoid it anymore. Yeah. right? So I feel like twenty twenty six, like all these pastors in churches, like you're gonna be challenged. You know what I mean? becausecause you can't hide it anymore. But one pastor's like, you do it. And I was like, what do you mean I do it? I don't know what that means. She's like, oh, go read the scripture and put your hand on her head and start praying. So I did And she started falling back Like something start I'm like, okay, something's working. like something's happening. I don't know what's happening. And she started kind of going back. But that's where we learned where I learned inter session. And so me and my mom were making inter session for her. your mom sa Yes. fininally, just kidding, mom But another thing with intercession for people who go through revivals is that we want to be the rescuer, right. And we want to like preach the gospel to our family and be Jesus to them. But the Lord taught me at one point. He said, okay I used you to bring your family to know me. Now it's up to them to choose.. And so I had to that was a whole season and a whole journey. But my sister, I truly believe she's alive today because of our interession. because he was like I woke up in the middle of the night at one point And see, this is what's crazy with the warfare is that during that moment of me being like activated into that What would you call it like next part of your calling or your destiny, right There was I got like hit by a drunk Driver R? Cops gave him my address, I guess, on accident and he showed up at my house harassing me. And then I'm trying to care for my sister during this time. And then it's, I mean, this is what I'm saying. And then I was like, okay, You know, I had to go to court and explain to them like how what you did literally causeed this guy to come and harst me And then I got a notification from the owner like, oh, we're selling our house. You gott to move out Where we going to move? We ended up having to move to that old territory that was so cursed. W. And then the Lord said, you're gonna to break some things on this land. And so I literally took anointing oil My Bible, I was walking around the whole land in the territory praying, making intercession, breaking contracts, you know, breaking things. And then my sister worrying through what she was worarrying through. And then I remember waking up in the middle of the night, it was so hard I woke up the middle night and she had my Bible on the stove about to light it on fire R And then it got to the point where like what are we going to do? you know? And it was the weirdest thing ever because and I think this is where we really need the wisdom of God in the Holy Spirit because I have worked with a lot of people who were deliverance ministers and pastors and they abuse You know what I mean? They get super religious and super like controlling. and that goes into a whole otherher story. and that's why we really have to continuously check ourselves Even no matter how long you've been doing deliverance, no matter how long you've been pastoring and teaching on healing spiritual ming, whatever. It's like we all need to continue to be surrendered to the consecration process, right? We never arrive. Um so yeah, I was making an intercession for that land learning about spiritual mapping. I went to a conference I think in twenty fourteen, and I was learning more about spiritual mapping and I was like, that, I want to do that. I think there was someone named Dr. Henry Malone that was talking and he's like, Ohh yeah, we got invited. We had intercessors praying at home then. We wait for the Lord to give us the assignment and the open doors and we get confirmation of the yes or no. And so everything is strategic, right. It's not just like, oh, I have an anointing. I'm anointed, I'm powerful. L I can do all things in Christ. that's ignorance What is the Lord telling you? What's your boundaries? What's your jurisdiction? Are you in alignment with that? or are you in alignment with self, right pulled by seducing spirits. But he had said him and his team went to Louisiana because there was a warden at a prison that got saved and he wanted them to go pray over the land. And so they had like quads and they were going around the territory, like pouring anointing oil and making intercession, going against principalities. and you know, it's all strategic know, because there's some people that preach don't do that. But it's like everything is We don't don't do anything because someone says, We obey and surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ and what he's saying to do. because we all have different gifts and different calls Right? And so I was like, I want to do that I'm called to that, but finding it was the hard thing, you know, because it's like in your typical Christian, all these different denominations Um, I feel like there's so many people that are spell bound You know, And then people areing spellbound. like I know what spellbound means, but like I mean, do what do you mean by like people in the church Yeah under witchcrafts? Yeah, just complete just disassociated. either they're intentionally still in the occult holding hands, but you know, like behind their back. crossc. Yeah. But even then too, like there was a woman that I went in for a service that she was doing and I always pray pray over every person. I was like Lord, paralyze every demonic entity over any person that cuts my hair, does anything connected to me, right? E the food, but also anyone that's touching me, right? because there's impartations that can happen like that. She's like, So what's your sign And I was like, o, here we go. H we go. There's your sign. I was like, well, Jesus Christ anw her. But she's the sweetest and what this is why I want to bring her up because she's seeking Jesus and she is a Christian And she's like, God just told me to burn all my tarot cards Because see, they're seeking healing and power and understanding to the supernatural and the spiritual realm. But because of what's open in their bloodline, they get pulled into activating U cultism that's running through their line, right? hijacking that happens. Yeah,act. reception between one hundred percent, one hundred percent. And so she was like, okay, I'm going need to talk to you some more to understand. But I'm so glad that she burned them. and that was in her pursuit saying, I'm not really understanding what's happening with these Christian churches. It's hard for her to find a Christian church But it's just the discipleship, the mentorship, the equipping. You know what I'm saying? God is wanting to separate us from the mixture There's a lot of people in twenty twenty six that want to keep their mixture. And so we have to that's where we have to discern and test the spirits. Yeah. so you mentioned a lot to me today about twenty twenty six. What you feel is going to be happening this year One thing I want to confirm with you is that that there is this U shift, I would say happening right now. It started, I think last year and it's going to get stronger as this year goes amongst just the Christian church, forget denominations. There are people who are you mentioned about the denial, like they can't deny it anymore. and it's so true Uh There are there are people who will So I was told by I'm not sure if I can mention his name on this or not. so I'm just to say I was told by a pastor friend that there's a shift coming where you're going to see old church double down on what always worked and there's going be a whole it's like split in half. there's this new church that's going to come out where it's going to be like, no, we need we need to know this supernaturalm. We need to understand this. And there's like there's split coming I see it and I even see it areas where I have a friend, we're not close friends, but we're friendly. John Moffet And u He has a podcast called Theoast And John He's reformed. And so I don't know if you know reform, but it's like Uh, you haveave you ever heard of Calvinism I mean, I've heard all thosered essentially to just boil it all down to our conversation here Reform theology typically does not put a lot of weight in anything that I talk about my show. It's like he's one of those crazy people. stay far awayay kids, you know what I mean? And John He has a he's a pastor of a church. he's reformed theology, but he And other people like Doug Van Dorne started looking years ago to the idea of the supernatural realalm and Dr. Michael Heiser teachings and things like that. John has gone through the ringer right now. because he I don't remember the name of the organization and I wouldn't say it right now I don't want to throw people under the bus, but he started an organization that actually removed him as the leader of the organization because of his beliefs on the supernatural worldview. And so There's this like weird split happening where even like people that are like John where he's reformed theology, traditionally does not mix with anything that I do here. yet he is saying publicly, you can't get around some of the language in the scripture that points to these things. And because of that, he has now been put in the split on my side of the split. And you know theologically him and I would probably differ a lot of things. But when it comes to this stuff and understanding the essence of what's happening around us We're in the same boat and because of that, he's been like rejected by old church. Right, right, right Yeah like the old church system I think that's what the Lord meant by a church within a church, Christian against Christian. That's That's where're. It's a separate. And I guess I want to specify I'm not advocating for church splitting. L I'm just saying like like the way peopleeople inside the faith view the faith and the depths of their faith and the different paths of that deafness goes is going to and it is splitting in a sense that like There's not agreement on certain things divides, it does divide But it doesn't need to divide in the sense of we can't fellowship together, but that is what's going to happen from this because of immature Christians and people who are not prepared to handle the conflict within the walls of that church. I don't say that lightly because I don't want that to happen. but I've seen it through John's story but also through even my own personal life, it's to a smaller extent. When I first started doing the podcast I' made a lot of bad decisions on how I interacted with people that were Christians around me when I first started and And they did too, though. And when I told them the show that I started, back then, it was very heavily experiential based. tellell me your story of how you saw Big Foot or whatever and I was socially rejected to a certain degree and laughed at and And I didn't feel welcomed. And it made me angry. And so I walked away from the church when I first started the podcast. I was like, I don't need you guys. I can grow spiritually on my own. I don't need this bull crap. Like I don I'm not in high school and I don't need to show up on Sunday getting anxiety because I don't know who's gonna poke at me. And for I'd say about three or four years, I was like in and out of the church trying to replace this, but pretty much not And It hurt me. Yeah, pecially. For sure, you know And and that's what my concern is with a lot of this is that I don't know don't I don't want to you know, quote unquote word curse it. I don't want this to happen, but I don't see it not happening. There being this kind of split because of this don't want is people on both sides finding themselves disassociating, you know, because that I can't tell how many messages I've got from people over the years who are like, you know I'm a Christian but I don't talk to Christians and I don't go to church and I just I'm a Christian on my own. It's like that is like cant you got to have community and dangerouserr accountability one hundred percent. Yeahah. And so I don't know how I got on that, but welcome to the AHD show called the Cfessionals. Where were we Where were we talking? Oh, that's right your sister. church. I you church. But see I can see where where we're at Because I do work with SRA survivors and I have the last five years. And so when someone goes on TV and says, everyveryone, go to church, find a church. you know, I'm like, no Because I work with people that are raped in church. Yeah, right. I work with people that are programmed by pastors and prophets and they they're handlers and programmers. So I'm like, no, don't, you know what I mean. That is a whole because this that happen here in Tennessee too? Like you had an experience when you were living here? Oh, many experiences I feel like because you were sharing so much before we started recording. I was I was going to have a hard time keeping everything track, but I felt like there was There was some person or something that you when you were here you were trying to help and they almost like they weren't ready for it. They were They weren't ready. I think and that's the part is that a lot of people have to be ready and they're not ready. But you know wasn't there somebody maybe wasn't here, Tennessee that was like that did experience the abuse within the church. Oh, yeah, it was in Tennessee. Yeah. so one thing that I learned about Tennessee, which is interesting is that there's a lot of, which probably isn't a surprise and I'm sure you've had people talk about it already on your show, where there's a lot of pastors that are from the Masons And they haven't had anybody mentioned. Okay. Well, they get positioned to pastor these churches to continue programming through this sex magic through the rape, you know, of kids And I think that's the hard part for me too, is because sayaying here in Tennessee. Yeah. hereere in Tennese. Yeah. I remember even driving and just exploring, you know, the territory and the lay of the land of where I was at. And there was like, I wish I would have took a picture of it. It was a huge Mason storage in middle nowhere. out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. W. But I and this kind of goes because I asked Lord, what do you want me to talk about? And he said the Great Deception, mind control programmers and handlers. And so I think that's key for us to understand. and even Christian programming. So Christian programming is a whole thing. I've worked with people that were programmed by false prophets, that were programmed by deliverance ministers I had one woman that I worked with and I felt so bad. She went through a pastor in a deliverance ministry and they were like barking at her like a dog and saying, this is how we get rid of Jezebel. And they further fragmented and abused her. So see, this is why there needs to be a call for leaders to heal their stuff, right. It doesn't matter how much you know in the Bible. There's Illuminati families that I've worked with at high high levels. They know the Bible like a scholar. You know, So so even people that are coming out of new age that's something too. And there's so many is very multifaceted Because I'm understanding the network of the enemy of how he's trying to seduce people and pull them into because they don't read their Bible. You know what I mean? So people can grow up Christian, they can have this Christian knowledge of the scriptures and word, but they're like so disassociated from intimacy and relationship. And you know, there's some leaders I've worked with in Tennessee that can't hear God And they're like, oh, I can hear God. I'm like, And that's what I love. I love helping walk people through to hear God for themselves. because sometimes there's so much pain and trauma and disassociation in their bloodline that they take on the sense of the religious abuse that they grew up in and that becomes their God. You know what I'm saying? That becomes the vision and the picture of who Jesus is, but it's not real Jesus, you know, it's what their parents presented to them whether it was unknowingly or knowingly There's a hog. Can we take a break? Yeah, if you need to take a break, you can take a break That's fine He can edit all the edits of the drinking of the water. Oh yeah, no, that's fine. I don't think He'll figure it out. Y. We't worry about Jack's job. Jack worriry you Jack's job.. We love you. That's why I know he's over there taking notes of some of I'm pretty sure some of the words you said he's like, well, we'll mute that from YouTube. Yes. Which don't sensor yourself. That's his job. He censors you U, but u Let's let's go through this list that you mentioned though, because I want to make sure as I wrote I was like, man, I should ask you this beforees record. Okay. You said that you felt God telling you that that he wants to talk about great deception, mind control, programmers and what else? Handlers? Handlers So let let's do this. kind of talked about a little bit here with the Tennessee thing. and Why don't we how do you how do you go from comoming into being a Christian and starting to learn this new spiritual existence. God the Holy Spirit iss teaching you along the way to working with Illuminati families. ye and and I don't know if that involved you being called here to Tennessee. I For me personally, from this end of the table, like I'm very interested in and exploring that. And we don't need to make the rest of the show about it, but I'm very interested to just know how did that calling happen for you to come to Tennessee? That's good. You moved here to Tennessee. God had you on a mission here. Y an assignment. an assignment. And so like like does that Did that have anything to do with this idea of mind control programmers, handlers, Iilluminati families or what? I I just know for me on on this geographical location that we're sitting There's And I don't know the depths of it yet. I don't know if I ever will. I could feel it though through communication with other people. There' ancient dark supernatural principalities that I think have been here longer than most people. like even I think it predates the Cherokee moving here. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think it even goes back to the Phoenicians and the Canaanites, even with California, like they came, they did their sacrifices on the land. and the bloodshed and you know, same, same scripture to this day is that the blood children that are being sacrificed and go through these rituals is crying out. you know, and people are like, well, where's God? you know, it's like where to rise up. God's waking us up to say Where's your stance? What are you not doing that you need to be doing? And we need to be making intercession. We need to be praying for these kids. And that's where I want to go into because that's kind of how the assignment started. And it started in twenty twenty with me having a baby farm dream Um talkalk to you about the dream. Yeah. continontinue I want to hear about this dream..' cross over that. That's what what set this course. Okay of working with high level And the Lord is always speaking to me and preparing me for what's coming. So like even just in you messaging me, the Lord was like, You can hear his voice and he's like, Tony's going to message you. And I'm like, okay, And he's like, he's going to message you soon. and he's going to want you on the podcast And I was like, okay And you messaged me two weeks later. from him telling you that. Yeah And just just to remind people from what we said earlier You initially messaged me on november first, twenty twenty four. I didn't actually message you back until august eighth, twenty twenty five. So time had passed and the Holy Spirit spoke that to you. then I messaged you. Yeah, you messaged.ow. Yeah. So I knew it was like confirmation. Yeah. And I love that that's how God works. And I think that's where we're going is that we have to be so entrenched and who he is and removing self and allowing him to together what he wants to put together and to just abide in him and what we're called to do in this hour, you know But so I was already working with Christians and I specifically work with a lot of leaders because a lot of Christian leaders don't have support You know, they go through so much warfare, things in their marriage, things with their kids nightmares, sleep process, you know, all the things and there's no support, right And so the Lord, even with a church in California, he'll position me to love on pastors and leaders, but people never know. So like it's always like We connect, off course, no one knows, which is I'd rather it be that way. So the Lord will just position me around certain people. to make intercession for them because these pastors wanted to leave like leave their whole role of pastoruring because of twenty twenty and COVID and everything happening. And the Lord allowed me to encourage them and they trusted me and I got another intercessor on and we were able to pray for them and encourage them. And so I feel like that's so important that Christian leaders have a safe place because we feel like when we go through hard things We feel like we have to go through them alone and we don't, you know, But it's just praying and asking the Lord to bring pure hearted people with pure intentions that are called on assignment to intercede for someone with what they're going through U So I have a passion for that And with the Baby Farm Dream, So again, over a decade doing healing and deliverance with a lot of leaders. I worked with famous I had one guy reach out to me. he's like, u Someone referred your information to me And he was like, um I'm a famous worship leader in California I don't want no one to know what I'm going through, but someone said I can trust you. And he shared all the stuff he was going through. He shared that how he was part of the MS thirteen gang, you know, in his background and then how he was seeking healing after he found Jesus and he couldn't find it in the church. so he went into new age retreats. And that created a whole thing. And then he was going through massive spiritual warfare in his marriage and with his kids And so I worked with him for I think it was a good month or two I'm just you know, interceding for him, giving him strategy, wisdom, understanding and being a safe place for what he was going through. And so the Lord always organically aligns that stuff. You know, I'm just the obedient vessel, like, okay, Lord So I've had a history already of like having credibleount accountability, seasoned leaders. I mean, even being under a strike team where we did spiritual mapping because I finally found a team of women that understood what spiritual mapping was, but I had to go looking, had to go seeking and asking questions because I wasn't finding it in the local church And so u someone gave me her information and she happened to be connected to having Dr. Laura Singer on the call to do some teaching. And so that's kind of been the realm of where the Lord has had me being trained and discipled and mentored with very well known, credible, seasoned Christians. And I think that's very rare and hard to find today because a lot of people are just going off, you know, and not having that. And I feel like when we're doing this level of warfare, it's so important for us to have that. I mean, even to this day, I have to have that accountability and that support Um, So I say that to say that Having that experience when I had the baby farm dream It's like something hit me like this is why I never died. I was always threatened with near death experiences. and I'm like, I never died because God sustained my life so that I can help These people, right Um And I was starting to understand my call more and I'll just can you share the baby farm dream with? Okay twenty twenty Everybody's going through all the things. I think California got it really bad I was like very rebellious, like I'm not putting that mask on guys. I was like, this is a rehearsal. This is a rehearsal for the Mark of the Beast. I'm not putting that on. And you know my ex husband was like, you're so rebellious. You're the most rebellious Christian I've ever met. and that's the whole story in itself. And then, you know, I was volunteering for the church, but I didn't wan to put the mask on in the church. So they're like, we have to go outside then. so I had to stand outside and do whatever it is that they wanted me to do. And then I was working in healthcare. and just quickly to talk about healthcare, this is crazy. and I think this is a message to encourage a lot of people because you know, we're told like get the bachelor's degree, get the license, clinical social worker, you know, get your roles right through college or through whatever so that you can be secure S July. So I was working in healthcare. for the state And I don't know if you need cut that out or not, but u I could feel the shift of what was happening and it wasn't a good shift, right And I remember We were a home visiting program where we would support people going through really hard things medically or doing postpartum assessments. And I loved it. I'm like, I get paid to go love on people and do home visiting. Like I love loving on people, right where they're at. And COVID happened Oh, home visiting program. you can't visit them anymore. So you're going to be doing computer stuff. U they literally overnight and we got all of this before I got a lot of the behind the scenes before the people did And I got to experience that and God like typically does that with me where I get to experience things firsthand of what we're going go through before it happens And my mentor is like, oh, that's a parabolic prophet. I'm like, that sounds like a bomb. That doesn't sound good. Parabolic. She's like, yeah, you're a living parabable You live it out in real time in your life, what the body of Christ is going to go through. And I'm like, no it all makes sense now. It was terrible. I was like, do I have to Lay it down, lay it down, surrender. Overnight, just quickly, I feel like this is important because it was a hard time But They compleompletely removed our role and responsibility and job title and put us under pharmacy And they said, you are now going to call eighty people eighty pregnant people and have them get the vaccine. And I was like, absolutely not. I'm not going to do that. And they're like Well, I don't know if you have a choice. And I was like, yeah, you're gonna have to give me something else. And then we had a meeting with our new director, who is phharmacy, and we get on the call and she's like, okay, so I have a couple things for you guys. We're gonna I did this full report. I don't know if she called it Gen Z or what she called it, but she basically said, I'm going to teach you guys and train you guys how to use two types of fear to convince people to take the vaccine And I thought, you got to be kidding me right now And they're like, what incentives can we give people? Oh, people want their kids in football, people want to travel, people want to see their family members that are in the hospital. So let's use that to manipulate and control them so that they can get the vaccine because that'll kind of them understand you're doing what you need to do I had to resign, obviously. It was like my protest non negotiable. And I even said it publicly on the call. Everybody was like looking at me like a crazy lady. I was like, abbsolutely not. I'm not doing that. I was like, you guys can test me and see how many gift cards you can give me, but I'm not gonna do it, right? I'm not backaccing my kids. I'm not back. you know, And so resigned and I ended up having a door dash And I I remember crying God U How are we going to eat? How are we gonna to do things You know, it just didn't make sense. I'd have to go deliver food and I'm like how I was making a hundred thousand in a year, you know we're finally doing good because I come from a long line of poverty and violence and just chaos. you know what I'm saying? And I felt like this isn't fair And I feel like a lot of us, military, first responders, people in CPS had to leave their jobs because of crazy things. And even within CPS and DHS, I've worked in all those different formats insane the M Cruption. And I even have a close friend who had to leave CPS because kids were being trafficked. through DHS and foster care and CPS and things like that. And so we all are having a sacrifice and have little but just leaning on the Lord for our daily bread. And then all that's happening right before I have the baby farm dream And see the baby farm dream is that is that what is the baby farm dream what? brought you in the calling to come here to Tennessee. was what was the charge There's there's Okay, so if you want it a little bit sooner just so we can track one thing that I learned in my decree writing, so the Lord brought me into this community to be able to activate my voice and my gift and my decrees warrying for the kids. And that came through my dream because no one can digest the dream that I just had And so when I came across these leaders Andanders said. A lot of people in inter session and ministries Um it's too dark You know, we don't want to go there. We don't want to hear that. I don't know why God chose me for that because I'm like, canan I have done something else He knows, this is a lot, right Um, But he did. And so when I had the dream, I shared that with them. and I feel like they understood the mandate and the call that I had And that's when I started engaging in stri te being on a part of their strike team in spiritual mapping and inter session. And so my dreams, the Lord would bring them, but that dream specifically set me on course to work with high level whistleblowers and people Illuminati bloodlines. Wh let me just share the dream real quick.. Yeah. So I think it was in about twenty middle and twenty twenty I didn't know any of what we know today because you know everything on Instagram and online. it's like they're talking about the Epsteins, they're talking about SRA, they're talking about, you know what I mean? Like it's all there. I didn't know half of that. Okay. I didn't know half of that. And so I am in the dream, I Well, you know what I mean? haaving a dream. There was a bathroom stall, but I was underground And when I was underground, everything was brick and gray and cold And then there was a nurse, but she looked super old school. Like I felt like I was a little bit back in time Possibly in Germany, maybe, she had this German look to her features I'm an older woman and I was walking through each bathroom saw opening it and there was pregnant women with a hospital gown on. And the nurse was taking them trays of drugs, E drug you can think of. And I think she was having them pre abort their baby at six months because that's kind of what I can see. The Lord graced me to not be able to see the babies Um you know, after they had died like a stillborn, but the see the ladies, like it was plain as day and they were so drugged, so drugged in their hospital gowns, pregnant. and the nurse was giving them drugs. and on the tray it was like a metal hospital tray with every drug you can think of and then she'd come and collect the babies And I didn't know if she could see me or hear me. And so she was collecting the babies and I remember saying, what are you going to do with those babies? And she literally with the most demonic voice and tone and sound, she said, I'm going to burn them And she put them in this like little container and threw them in this bin and was like gonna to set them on fire. And instantly I thought of molete You know, sac in the Bible it talks about Molech and Bal and the sacrifice of children or what that brings energetically for Satan's kingdom And I woke up and I'm like, what the heck was that The Lord literally said, I want you to go look up Baby farms. I never heard this in my entire life, K So I go online and I'm like baby farms. The first thing that pops up is twenty nineteen Bbarra Winfrees, spiritual advisor John of God arrested for baby farms all over the world And I was like, you gott to be kidding me. This is a thing because I didn't know. And the Lord said, I want you to start researching this and I want you to start praying So I started doing that and then I let my mentor know And she kind of understood like what what that was leading to. She ended up I ended up getting Kathy O'Brian's book and she we did a spiritual maing in San Francisco and she literally Kathy O'Brien's testimony book, I can't remember the name I feel like transformation, maybe. Yeah. I feel like I have a someere around here I'm sorry I just And that was a hard read. I don't recommend. you know, if you're not called and healed, don't read it because that was a really difficult read. I don't even think I finished it all. Um But she ended up giving me also Bryce Taylor, who I think she was also an MKLltra in and sex slave, right? It was a huge book and she landed it in my lap you know, and so that took me on researching praying and interceding, and then I had another dream where in the heels of like the Bay Area, kind of There was kids coming out of the mountain And there was like a white flag. And then I was with my mentor in the dream, I was with my mentor and her husband And I'm like, there's kids coming out. We go over the barbed wire and the kids are coming out, but we don't have enough Um you know, transportation. whereere are we taking them? What are we doing? And the Lord said no one's ready There's because if if we I understand government sponsored kidnapping at a degree that I would rather not know all that I know because these systems have been so infiltrated in their programming centers, a lot of them. And so they would just ret traffic the kidits, right U so that's not going to be an option. And then you got the church Pastorors doing what they're doing, right harming kids and just all these horrific demonic things happening with pedophilia. And so I feel like God is saying we're coming into a season of building anew. like we're coming into a season of the Book of Acts Church, you know, and he is challenging everyone to kind of reflect and see where are you Where do you need to be? What am I calling you to do? But I feel like we're going to look different You know what I'm saying? Like you were talking about the system and structure of church how the enemies set it up within America, like that isn't going to stand And if anything, it'll just kind of fork go into a formation of aligning with the One World religion That's what I see that stream happening. And then you have the other stream of the followers of Christ laid down lovers. I'm willing to do anything for you, Jesus. even though we're all different denominations And were're like the fiery ones or the watchmen or the one ones that God's called to rise up, right? And we do need the men to rise up like never before. I will say that U Okay, so so there we are there I love it. I love it. I don't love the dream. but It kind of go calm. Yeah. and it kind of goes with I was talking about it a few weeks ago on a live show And B Uh and Actually, a lot of people I don't know, but I've seen around have been feeling There's There's something coming this year And it's It's coming from under the ground. Okay. And I've seen different interpretations of it by the common There's a common theme that keeps popping up, which is underground, underground, underground rising, underground rising. and just hearing what you were saying and stuff just from your dream the two dreams. always have the idea of underground the children coming up out of the ground and Um I think that there's a lot of going to be a lot of demonic manifestation moving forward. Yeah. There's going to be sites that people see that They didn't know could exist even in a movie. one hundred percent. Yeah. think I think we're here I think we're there. and just just to kind of talk about Tennessee The one thing that I learned in my research and a lot of my degrees were against programming that Michael Aquino was a part of And I don't know who is that? I looked him up and He was a part of psychological warfare and I believe he took Alistair Crowley's magic to the highest level. Wow, o. Yeah. But he' he's like, I guess the head person he was the head person in military for psychological warfare. And was he here? Yeah, and he had a lot of training bases in Tennessee For or psychological warfare, psychic programs, MKLra, all the things. Really? Yeah And so what's interesting about when the Lord was calling me to intercede for Tennessee, I felt like something was going to come out from Tennessee that is aligned with him. And that and I started learning aino or, Aquino. But then I came across a military manual that he had and I can't find it now, you know, but In the military manual, it was interesting and I can't recall everything that it said, but I just know that it has to do with the end time agenda and what they're going to try to do through the military. And so when I started seeing the military in LA started seeing the military in u Minnesota, I'm like, okay I think we're in that next phase of what he had originally wanted And because he has a lot of so a lot of his programming too with MK Ultra and Satanic ritual abuse, they get programmed with these altars of function, like identity roles, responsibilities. So we when they say they're amongst us, like they're literally amongst us. and a lot of them are Christian. And I don't think people understand that. And they and a lot of people in the new age were were raised in that type of programming, right and put through horrific rituals because in order for the program to solidify itself through these kids, It's extreme sexual torment. and suffering. And then and see, when I started learning about this, I didn't realize that They get so fragmented and disassociated that they split so many times that they have no memory So the amnesic walls go up And then they have the frontal presenter, Christian self or whatever. you know, a lot of them are extremely gifted I mean, they do have a call, but they're just on the other side, right? And I feel like people's programming this year is getting Hold on And that's why it's so important to use wisdom and discernment and understanding and counsel and have You know many advisors and proverbs it talks about that because of the deception where programmers are given platforms, you know, to speak and then they're operating with sorcery and operating with things that are functioning. And it's pulling people into the great deception where I'm literally seeing people be triggered where they're going into of demons, You know what I mean? Or the enemy is just like getting a hold of them where they're being pulled away and into darkness, into perversion, into things that would be outside of their Christian character. And that's just one stream of people. because then when we're talking about new age and occultism They're trying to come and infiltrate Christians, but specifically target Christians who are called to take them out because that's you know, their assignment So you're laying out different war tactics from different enemy camps. Yeah church. one hundred percent. you have You've mentioned just now new age They' cold. Yeah but also these I don't know what should call it leaders that are programmed inside the church Yeah. and and what you're saying is it seems like This year moving forward, there's me an activation of hundred percent. And it might be in February. I know February is a high occult holiday and I know I can't remember the exact holiday it is, but I know it's They mock they mock and do a lot of horrific things mocking the crucifixion of Jesus. And I think there's other things with Stonehedge and stuff. It's just demonic. But even with the newew Aagers Can I just tell you I learned a lot too? Like I worked in a Christian Homeschool I'm like, Lord, why do you, you know, when I was doordashing and doing all these things, I'm like, maybe I'll just work at a Christian school, right? And then I was witnessing that the kindergartnner teachers were witches Like richous like like like they don't look like it. They look so. ite and that's the interesting thing is that they have spell crafting rooms in their house and they're so entrenched in it and then they get put into is Christian churches and I was like, So everybody was like, o are you gonna to put your kids in there? I'm like, Absolutely not. And then Pion. No not. And then And the Lord saiding, why you start praying for these kids? And so I started to make an intersecession. So again, like it's like spiritual sniper. No one has no idea And he's sending people out on assignment and to make intercession for the kids and against what the kingdom of Satan is trying to do through these unhealed people that are opening doors if they have no idea what they're opening. You know what I mean? And even with like the whole star seed thing that I started learning about, graise star seeds. Aain, I didn't know anything about that. And then God started sending people to me. likeike one girl came to me. She's like, I got deliverance Demons were cast out, I went through healing, like all these things. she's like, but Grays are still visiting me in my room. and I feel like you're the only person that I can talk to about this. And then I started to learning about that. And then another lady, she said, I've gone through deliverance, they've gone through healing. but I remember my dad teaching me how to astroroject at five And I blacked out and a portal opened and a gray came through So and then they're visiting her, You know what I mean? They're visiting her now in her room and she has these experiences of them doing surgery. And so that's why I mean, like we're beyond healing and deliverance. Like that was old wines skin. We're so far past that. like we can't stay stuck there. We need to move forward in what the Lord is having us do because it's not the same You know what I mean? The warfare is not the same. Even the strategic targets aren't the same and the entities, you know, and I feel like each state is being challenged, like who are you gonna to seeat? Are you going to unseat Jesus? Are you going to see a principality? or like who do you serve? who does your state serve? right? And so I think the question for intercessors is are you willing to surrender and submit the things that you need to work on internally so that you can be a watchman with a pure heart and clean hands and fulfill what God has called you to fulfill here on earth, right And I think that's where we're at. L we can't keep our head in the sands. We can't go back and forth. I mean After I had that baby farm dream and I started reading the books on MTltra the Lord gave me a word saying Operation rescue the children. likeike his heart is for the children. And if you have churches and pastors, which you do because I've worked with them that are being raped, that are being abused and even working at a higher level when I was around other ministries that make so much money. And they're actually, you know, a part of a network that is compromised And the Lord said, Christina, I want you to know when I got to that level of where I was able to see things in real time around lluminati bloodlines and families and things that were happening at a high level with three letter agency families and kids that were being trafficked for nefarious things He said many people are going to sell out I want you to know that. And I was like, okay God And he said, they're going to sell out, but they're going to continue to use my name And I want you to know that. And I was like, okay. And so I mean It It's not a game It's not just, you know, o, she's just saying this to say this. like we're in active warfare. And I think that's what's interesting with Tennessee is they're so against the war. Like like, you know, change your name I don't think it should be done. I almost changed it Is there like, I don't think it should be called daughters of warfare? Should be something else You know, or what do you do? And I'm like, well, I have this ministry and the Daughters of Wfare. And it was like a word curse. like You're saying the that word. L we don't want to hear that. The war' over, like no, you know, and I was like, oh, okay. And then I remember going into someone's house and it was so interesting because they weren't saved, but they had like things um like a dead bat and like pictures of dead people and she works at Mental Health and Um, you know, just for the protection of naming, I was able to kind of help this Christian leader understand like what's happening in your bloodline and why You know, why we marry who we marry, why we start opening these doors to these different things. But I think it's so important for Christians to understand that if you can't hear God There is a block. And God wants to meet you there. Like where did this walk start? What can we do to help you break down that wall and be integrated into the love relationship with the true Jesus Christ of Nazareth But I think too, what's difficult is that there's so many false Jesuses. And I even challenge people when I work with people coming out of the occult like, you know, ask the Lord to expose Any counterfeit voices, counterfeit Holy Spirit, counterfeit Jesus Um But yeah, there's just so many different networks. It's That's a real thing Yeah, it's wild. You mentioned about the old wise win skin and deliverance and Um you know, I find that interesting because there is So like one I don't think you're saying there's no need for deliververy It's just it's like it's like a layer of an onion. There's a new layer to pull back now Yeah And I had I had a sturing, I suppose in that line becausecause what you were talking about with the idea of the gres and stuff and the one woman said that, you know she's been delivered and all that stuff. and she's like, I still have them coming and visiting me. And I hear that stuff. and it's like Okay, so what's the next level here? Where do we go with that? you know? And so I do That rings true to me. I wouldn't say I have, um an answer to my own question, but it's more There's definitely a new wine skin being put into the forefront. Yeah, there is And so I just Yeah. So u I want to wrap up Tennessee here with just one final question, unless there's more. becausecause I know you mentioned me about some I can never say it U Solmonic magic. Yeah The psychological operations with Michael. Yeah. When were you brought here specifically for that, do you think I still ask the Lord the of the assignment, I just don't know if people were ready. Yeah. I feel like I wasn't received honestly, if I can say that It was hard to be received in California. It was hard to be received in Tennessee. And so it's not that that wasn't my call and assignment. I feel like God did call me, but when people choose to engage their free will or denial over that to deny what God is wanting to do, then God says to keep moving forward. but I did make intercession. I did pray. I feel like, you know, I got aligned with you. So so there was work that was done. but see, there's something interesting about Tennessee, California, I feel like New York and North Carolina, I believe he had a lot of underground bases. in those states and a lot of survivors, there's millions of survivors underground. Underground, above ground, Oh I didn't even tell you about when I crossed through Minnesota Um It looked like Somalia. and I think I moved there in twenty twenty three temporarily as I journeyed through crosssover into Tennessee. And I was like, whyy does it look like Somalia here? Like I don't understand. And I was in Sain. Cloud, Minnesota, and that was twenty twenty three And there was Prison across the street from this apartment. And the Lord said, there's active tunnels underground and there's children. I want you to pray I don't think people understand the trafficking of children is happening right under us anderally And the networks and even in the hospitals. You know, I worked with someone that had her child trafficked and taken through the government. They call it government sponsored kidnapping. And again, she's from a family of the three letter agencies. And there's this thing that I'm just curious and I'm asking the Lord about. I'm like, I feel like Um, Through the bloodline and the seed warar, they're taking these kids to position them into places of influence, you know? And I think we've seen that along the lines and we're seeing it today. But one thing I do want to say that I found out as I was working with SRA survivors the last you know, six years is that The enemy needs a certain amount of energy to usher in the Antichrist And so In order to do that, what I've witnessed you know, behind the scenes is that there's people coming out of the occult and new age And then their system gets flipped. It literally reminds me of the Matarian candidate with Denzel Washington. A system of their internal system of their presenter personality gets flipped And they get hijacked and either an entity comes forward or a part of their humanity. And that's why with deliverance, it's important because sometimes the demon that's yelling and screaming, it's a part of their humanity. And you can't cast out a part of someone's humanity And so sometimes when people are manifesting, like there was a false prophet that the Lord revealed to me in California, Los Angeles, two false prophets actively famous now And they channeling spirit. So people are thinking they're getting delivered when really they're being contracted to the enemy and being hijacked of their essence their finances, their spiritual gifts, people are astro projecting Christ and they don't know why. And something that I've learned to understand is that these false prophets that have their system flip into a satanic altar of their humanity Knowing and knowingly it can be both putting these people on assignment. So Siritually through the sorcery or howateever you want to call it, they speak to each other And if their third eyes open, if they've been especially newew age and occultists, like they've been through all these retreats, they've been to Peru, they've been to rituals, activations, so they're loaded. They're literally like cult energized object, temple in itself and they're so loaded and then they go into these churches, they go into these ministries. and there's assignments that the false prophet puts them on and will literally speak to their internal part and tell them So there's people I've worked with and that part of their identity comes forward, it's very different And they will tell me like this person told me to gather Gems. gather this. I've worked with another young survivor that would talk about gems and I'm learning that a lot of gems and Diamond programming and gem programing, it's connected to the Illuminati. It's essence. They're going in hijacking and taking people's essence And I know that's like extreme because you know, your typical Christians would. that's too far, but it's a real reality because there's a lot of Christians even that are having reams spirits show up, you know, human spirits, you can't cast out a human spirit. You can't. They're human. You know what I mean? You got to have the Angelic host come and escort them out of your house, away from you because people can astro project dead and living. You know what I'm saying? So it's not the same as I rebuke you O get out in Jesus' name. It's not a demon. It's a different warfare. It's a different strategy. So you said about taking the essence there's famamous in my mind because she's She's so awesome. But I had her on the show several times. She's due for another appearance. Her name we call her frringe You can find her on X. She goes by fringe it's at fringedT d. com COM And she She's gone through abduction scenarios and all this stuff. And one of the things that she describes is this idea. uh, from from her vantage point. U and what I've started calling soul sucking p which is taking And it does you're right. It does sound extreme. But when you the more you hear the more people talk about it and then U U I wasn't prepared to talk about this, but Ezekiel thirteen eighteen, I think. I think last time I referenced it on the show I said it backwards and I said eighteen, thirteen, and people were like, it's nowhere there.m like Well, let's lets covers. But literally is God reprimending a false prophetess who is stealing the essence, the souls of people exactly. And so it' it was extreme for me too. I talked with Fringe and I had a great conversation with her and Oh I feel like this a little bit with even you, but with other people as well. It's like at times I feel unequipped to hold a conversation on certain things, you know? And with her, I felt that immensely. But once another guest on the show brought up to me about Ezekiel thirteen and eighteen. It was like everything just align firms because you need that. You needed that. You needed to stand on that. Yeah. And there's so there's just so much in the sccripture that validates people's live experiences And you were talking about the prophetist or I think you said there's two or Yeah, there's two. I would call them programmers. One of them, I'm literally like, are you even human at this point? like So so it's not that It's just as simple as it's somebody being used by enemy you believe that's somebody willingly being used I mean, I don't even know what their level of programming was like program? That's true. Yeah. I mean, it's I'm curious. Like who's their programmer? Is it someone in Africa? Is it someone in the Middle East? I mean, the network is so far and wide. but I think I've been, you know, and this is an interesting thing because I gave a warning to a leader not to go see one of the false prophets and she was so fragmented and I offered her healing for me and some other women to help her healing and she declined. And so I feel like the Lord will always have a heart for his children and he'll always present someone on their path to bring healing, but they can choose to use their free will to decline what God is trying to bring to them. And he doesn't control. Jesus doesn't control. And that's the beauty of Jesus is that we can choose. He's a gentleman, right. But she declined, and I kid you not. She went to go get anointed by this false prophet Um, and came back We had a meeting and she literally took on his last name and had a picture of her and him. What? Yeah, ye. ye. That happened fast. Yeah, literally. I mean, and I warn and I sought counsel Because giving warnings is hard, right So I sought counsel from people like just I'm discerning this. The Lord's saying to say this to her Well, Christina, you need to be obedient no matter what she says or what she thinks. So I'm like, okay, and I let her know And she still booked the ticket to go see him. I think it was in South Africa, got anointed by him, all the things came back, took on his last name, and that's a pattern. It's like they she marry him? Well, well, they they in the spirit. Wha. So then, then I'm like, God, I hope I heard you right because I literally, you know, and then I get confirmation. When I see that, I'm like Okay. Yeah. Sest deemonic. Like that's just That's a demonic forged marriaged in darkness. And what's interesting is the Lord is so good that he literally a year after that, started sending me people that were horrifically abused by him in high degrees, right. And I started understanding the patterns and the dynamic of what he's up to. So what I'm learning is that people who are high highly charged with things that are active in their bloodline programming or all of the above. because they're denying feeling, right or what they need to see. They're being pulled and seduced by sorcery to these false prophets, pastors, churches, however you want to call it, and then getting completely taken over And then they go out and multiply, right? And gain a following, gain an influence, deceive the masses Um Do you feel like there's um notot an end time army, but like do you feel like There's this this gearing up and there's all this activation happening because There there there is this Final battle that is coming. and like For me, and I asked the question feeling like I knew what the answer was, but I just careful not to put words in your mouth For me, it just feels like There's something there's something really big coming. And what you're talking about is is you're pulling back the curtain on what what the other side is preparing for. Exactly. I mean, even in February with a Super Bowl coming up. I mean that I mean, even when we talk about high level DID and programmers, I can recognize when and and the enemy always uses pain Pain is the gateway to flip someone's system. So you can be a Christian, you can have all the Christian lingo but also be born in an Illuminati family and have no idea of the programming that you went through from like in the womb until twelve or until thirty five. And then because of pain and something really extreme and traumatic that happens to you at a certain age, it will flip that program system and then now you're in the system that is basically an antichrist spirit And I'm witnessing that with Christians too, where they're like, but I love sin. I love perversion, I love all these things. know And it's like, you need to choose this day who you're gonna serve. I mean and even you know, when I started doing deliverance in like twenty ten, eleven I would The Lord would allow me to like sense through discernment what spirit they were fighting I'd have like thoughts or visions of something that they were wrestling with that they wouldn't say And I didn't know that was a gift. I thought it was a curse because I was like, Lord, I don't like this. I don't want it. And I remember throwing down like I literally gave it to him. Can't remember the year. I was like, I don't want tona be any part of this. It is too much, right to have that gift. And I remember maybe a year or two later this lady I went to this event and she's like praying over me and she went to go grab bread and And I was like, no. bread because bread represents deliverance. I don't want to do it. And she's like, the heart is calling you back into deliverance. And I was like, dang it. So I feel like Um We're being calledu. And we can choose to forfeit our destiny. We can choose to be outside of the Lord's destiny. So yes Christians are being challenged, Christians that have been a Christian for forty years. fifteen years, one year, like they're being challenged to choose. you Who's your loyalty to? And I think that's the biggest part with this is that there's altars of someone's humanity that can have loyalty to the demonic kingdom because of what came in through their family line And they have to continue to war for purity and war for righteousness and war for the call that God's given them, but some of them are getting taken into that great apostasy where they're going outside of his covering and choosing darkness You mentioned about the Actually, I forget how you laid it out, but you brought up the idea of astral projection. Oh yeah yeah. Are these These leaders Astro projecting one hundred percent. Yeah. Are they So like I had u I had a lady in here who went through significant Sificant abuse. Okay All And she was actually owned by Epstein. Okay And One thing she brought up was how No, I know you were referencing like a false profet and. But She she brought up how Th evil people They practice astral projection and they actually meet in the astral realm and hold meetings there so it's undetectable. And so it's like, no, I would never have been to Tennessee. and they can say physically, they had never been to Tennessee. one hundred percent. And that's the unseen war. And I witnessed that when I was So I'm glad you brought that up because that's something I got to experience that when I was having all those dreams, the baby farm dream and just the kids and learning about, you know, a Kinos' military operation and the psychic you know, operation and project paper cllip and just learning and understanding and writing decrees against it and rescuing for the children felt so bit And I felt like no one wanted to listen. You know what I mean? And I know that's how the survivors feel and I feel so bad. I'm like Man, they go through so much and so much hijacking and deception where they can't trust anyone. And that's the biggest thing that I've come against is that people are like Christina. I've come across this ministry and this deprogramming ministry and this healing ministry and this pastor and this church and they just part of the network But I still not to say that after I think I was flying to Texas for a conference and it was around that time of like reading those books on and Caltra and and slaves mind control, government mind control. and I said, God, this is too big This is too big. How do we win this war? And I kid you not God took me into a vision while I was on the airplane and in the vision, I saw a file cabinet open up And I saw all these files come up And then I saw a big brown basket come in front of me with like gun clips tons of gun clips. And the Lord said, You're going to win this war through the files, the clips and the images that are going to come forth That's how you're w this war So yeah, our government isn't going to release anything the survivors and the people that have this hardcore evidence It's it's gonna, it's going be so made public or mainstream that the Lord said people won't be able to stomach it And he is he's bringing everything up to the surface, right? And so I feel like it gives me hope. to let people know that are people that are seeking purity and for the Lord to bring out any contamination that they might have in any way or capacity so that they can be pure spotless you know, vessels bride of Christ so that they can carry and continue the mantle and continue to enforce the call that God's given them so that they have somewhere safe. And I think that's the biggest problem today is that people all over the world they have the information. they have the videos, they have the files, they have everything, right? but they have no one to trust Like who do we take this to that we can trust? becausecause there are lives that have been taken out. L I've almost had my life taken out several times. And I'm just like, okay, this is very real, but see the astro projecting. So even in that moment of that season where the Lord was kind of preparing me, I had another vision and this is through intercession. I'm before the Lord. I'm praying, I'm in my word. I'm sitting down with him I'm asking him for understanding, you know, what do you need me to see? What do you need me to hear? And I remember going into a vision and it's like just a flash as my eyes were closed and it was a courtroom. And there was whistleblowers, there were advocates, there were people standing up voicing, you know what I'm saying, But they're being slammed by Astro Projection. They're being you know, Astroprojection going in their house. They don't know. They have no context, right? And the Lord said there's going to be so much sorcerer and witchcraft coming after these people And there's even a lot of whistleblowers in Hollywood that get taken out Yeah Either their money gets taken, their kids get taken. like when your kids get taken, that's like number one roule for high level Illuminati families is that when you are not obedient or when you're on assignment, the number one thing that they do is take your kids away from you. Um, and your money And so there are a ton of people that are Christian and that come from this high level programming, but they're not ready to let go of their loyalties to the family line, to the family name, to what the Kingdom ofark darkness has brought, you know, because there's always trades. There's trades on the trading table of Satan where there's always a trade being made But there's trades on the trading table of the Sea of Glass, which is in heaven. So that's where we war, right? seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus far above powers, principalities. We were from rest and victory and authority, but it doesn't mean we just sit there ignorant. I think we're in active engagement right now Without a doub Um, You mentioned about people being being taken out I think I've talk about this in the show before. I don't talk about it often, but Um So there's people being taken out for so many different things Yeah. and it's all Like there's different U armies in one grand army, but different armies operate different ways. They have different missions. And I'm talking about the spiritual realm. and how it manifests in the physical I I'm in contact with a guy who is on what is known as the Clinton Kill list. Okay. You talked about landing spots for the information Like I don't know if I'm the right person for that, you know. And so for years, I've been trying to help him find the right landing spot for his his he needs a real journalist. He has paperwork. He has a paper trailer And I think that's where we're at. Yeah. like And so I'm kind of like I'm on a little side quest myself just trying to find Yeah someomebody that He can land with someone's safe. Be he's getting older now. likeike he if he's going to tell a story, it needs to happen soon. He's in the seventies. And but I mean, he has court documentation. has he has so much stuff. That's So yeah, I mean, all right. so I don't want to move I this keeps coming back in the conversation and I want to make sure I As this question before I forget again You mentioned about the Iumini families. ye. So you have direct experience with working with people from Illuminati families U how did that whole thing unfold for you? Like, I mean, was it that that God brought that person to you or did they they did they find you? Did they did It's just Everything that I shared like the foundational pieces since the baby Farm dream and all of that. And then working with whistleblowers and advocates, he aligned those relationships and then I got to kind of witness like the contamination within Christianity And I mean, there was even one woman. She was like Can you be on this podcast with me and just watch me as I'm on this podcast to pray for me? And then I got on the podcast and the guy was Christian, but there was a new woman on it and my spirit, my discernment was like, this is not good. whoever that lady is And it wasn't. And I said and there were people on there that were claiming to be deprogrammers for SRA They were not And I was like, I think I'm praying, but I think you should get off of there right now. Like just get off And she said, I felt the same way. Thank you She got off and then she got like a demonic text from one of the ladies that was on the podcast. canannibalistic Witchcraft type thing and it just confirmed And so I think with high level survivors, people that are coming out of that becausecause a lot a lot of what I'm realizing is that when they choose Jesus, it starts breaking their codes. It starts breaking their system. Wow. And they choose Jesus and starts breaking their code. one hundred percent. He's the code brereaker. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And so that's something I got to witness, but they need safe people to help them deprogram, to help them process. And it's hard, I can't do it all by myself You know, and I feel like God's trying to connect strike teams together that You know, you carry this, you carry that, and we can network together and make sure there's no compromise, no contamination. I mean, we've had people like try to get us to go meet them that supposedly died but didn't die, and then we weren't sure, you know. So there were so many times through intercession and the Lord said, people are gonna need intercessors having their back that are pure and vetted because there's a ton of people that claim to be interccessors just like the one that against me and she had all the language of healing, deliverance, like all the things And she I don't know if her system flipped. I don't know if someone astra projected and spoke through her. I just know that she through her attempted to So I mean, we are a threat and we should be But there's so much mixture and contamination that we have to sort through, like literally in a time of separating the sheep from the goat, the wheat from the tears. So I Moving forward here If you You know peopleeople who were listening and watching this and stuff Um Is there any way that they can reach out to you? I know you mentioned your Instagram. I don't know. Yeah, that's so again, because no one would really open their door for me to do anything. So I started everything from Instagram on Daughters of Warfare. So they can find me there. I do have Um, a website that they can go on there and message me. I do work with survivors. I have a portion of survivors that I work with for free as funding comes because for so long, I've been working with survivors with no funding. U and that's been No hard. And then I've come across ministries that have millions and millions of dollars flowing through them and they're like You know Not who you want to be giving money to U So that's been a whole thing, a whole trust thing because the Lord did say, I will fund what you do for these survivors and these people. You know, because Ive worked with people whistleblowers and people from Hollywood. and nobody knows, it's not something you announce. It's something that you keep before the Lord in creating space for these people to know they're not crazy and to know that these memories that they're recovering are real, And there are systems and structures within that need to be untangled. But see again, with deprogramming, you don't want to deprogram someone too fast. L having memory recovery and recovering too much too fast can put them into like a mental spin U So you always got to make like there's there's protocol, there's protocol to it Um So yeah, the Lord had me start a programming manual. So I do have like early access for people to kind of just read through it and understand it. I have that on the website too. And then I have just content to kind of help people understand the war that's in front of us. Yeah, it's important to understand what's going on as much as you can. I kind of come from a camp of, I don't know if I'll ever truly understand everything, but ye it's kind of like my life mission to at least try. You know There should be an attempt. Yeah. ye. Yeah because I think it's easy. and I think a lot of people fall in a category at some point in their life and hopefully they come out of it. I did where you live on default and you're just like, o it is what it is it is. Yeah. That's what we see today. Very lethargic their spiritual development.. And I fight that still, you know,'s there's plenty of weeks that I have where I'm just like I just don't It's too much. Yeah I just w to kind of lay down and not do much, you know? Can I just scroll?? No scroll. A d scroll. Gilt speak Thank God's like Yeah I'm like Awake awake. It's true. It's true right. No, I've never heard God's voice like that. so but it's a firm lashing that I get of just disobedience. Like a dad. Yeah. I think it's like a dad. Yeah. I that's one thing I learned was I And I think a lot of people fall in this category, especially people who maybe grew up in the church as Christians. We hear this phrase, you know, I've been called to and God's calling me and A! I wonder if there's we need to consider how we I agree because I've been around mean deliverance ministers, like so mean and I'm like, I would never want you to lay hands on me. Yeah. You know, I've been around charismatic people where I'm like prorogramming center Not going in there or don't touch me because you know, like, yeah, there's some people that they are like, I have a call. I've been mandated. I'm gonna to finish this assignment. And I'm like, wow, you are so out of God's order. So there's people like that and they come across very grumpy But then there's other people who will be like, you know, they treat the call If that's you want to the ver verbs you want to use. as an option. and what they don't realize and this what I didn't realize for many years for a long big portion of my life is that not walking in the calling is walking in disobedience, which is sin.. And so when if he's calling you to do something and you're not doing because you're tired, you're lazy or just you're scared. all of that falls in line with disobedience from a father's direction. I think you're right on with you're in rebellion. Yeah. you are in rebellion. And then that's where the enemy gets his foothold. Right. And there's a ton of Christans that are like, well, what if I don't want to know But if I don't want to know what God has to say or what I need to look at. And I'm like, well You're going to keep repeating this cycle. You can do all the counseling, all the things, but if you're not being vulnerable and raw and exposed before the Lord, saying, Lord, what is it that I need to see that I continue to deny I don't want to deny anymore. He will bring that denial down and he'll give you what you need for that moment, right? Beause you don't want And that's one thing about healing and deliverance, especially with high level survivors of VesR and MKLtra, is that you literally have to hear the Lord every single word, step by step, what they need, when to start because there's suicide programming within them. There's altars that are set up and it reminds me of Ezekiel eight. where he was taken into the temple and there was like a little hole in the wall, and then he looked through the hole, and then there was all the snake worship, serpent worship, worshiping of tamoous, all these gods. So it's kind of like that with our internal system, where even with the fragmentation and the SRA, there's things inside that were set up. But again, Jesus is the ultimate code breaker And so when people start surrendering to the true Jesus Christ in Nazareth K, not the yoga, Jesus, not all these demonic things that ome dressed and wrap like Jesus, but it's same. So there's a lot to sort through. Yeah. Well, there's definitely a lot to sort through. I'm glad you came in and had this conversation with me U and I hope it it helped people maybe just Maybe I didn't help as much as inspire. Yeah Because I think the inspiration, the stirring that can come from a conversation can lead Many people in different directions as to the way the Holy Spirit wants for that individual. And maybe that's my hope with this conversation is that it stirred people. and that opens the door for the Holy Spirit to speak directly to people individually. You know,be maybe there's just one thing that was said that was like that's the thing that I'm keying in on right there Um, But again, people should u goo ahead and follow you on Instagram Daughters of Warfare. and the website is daughters off wararfare. com. Go ahead and give her a follow. and if You want to talk I'm assuming your DMs are open, I suppose. Yeah, ye for sure. I mean, you DM me. so yes, they're open. Yeah. and just letting the Lord lead. But I think too, just as we close here I feel like God's heart is for kingdom couples right now. sore hearing you and your wife. Like it just makes me so happy because God always wanted that. He wanted us to compliment one, you know, one another, but with Christ as the center. And I feel like you know, even for me coming out of a religious abusive marriage you know, I learned so much because I was like, oh, we can marry with our own free will the wrong person. And that's what I did. And I went through so much abuse. And he hated anything that I did that had to do with Jesus. I mean, even my own baptism, I got baptized in the mountains. It was so beautiful and powerful. and it was he was abusing me the whole time emotionally and mentally. And so understanding that, you know, God has kingdom spouses for us, and it's for this time. And it's so funny, he gave me a word like Kingdom couples, you know, like that's pretty cool. I hope I fit that category. I' probably leading that. I mean, you and your wife are probably leading that because I feel like God like that's what the enemy has targeted the most is kingdom marriages. It's like he's Satan's done a really good job leading people to marry familiar spirits, you know, through familiar spirits to keep us outside of the kingdom marriage and covenant that he has Because we're we're, um against the enemy when're in that type of covenant that God's created for a husband and wife. So I really feel like the Lord is calling a lot of kingdom couples forward. But then even Christians who are abused and married and they feel like they have to stay in the abuse. Like I experience that where they're just like, just keep praying prayer, just keep. And I'm like, I've done it everything you can think of. I just stayed stayed longer and further the pain and the fragmentation. So I think The Lord is doing a lot with people that have gone through religious abuse and religious trauma and deception and betrayal. and he's coming to bring massive healing and truth. One more thing that I'm going to say. as you just brou it up People there is there is a I don't think people totally understand what happens to other people when they're being abused emotionally or verbally over a grand period of time that will manifest physically Yeah with physical health And one hundred percent That verbal emotional abuse. when it starts manifesting physically in the victim and they're having all these health issues or whatever. like Like now it's crossed the line into physical abuse. hundred percent. And And so there's just a lot of misunderstanding with that. and and I'm all for fighting for relationships and all that. But There there is It's a snowball that that sometimes It's hard to stop. Yeah. I've seen it in friends and ye uh other people's relationships and it's like, holy cow, you literally see what the victim is like, well They don't hit me Oh I hear that all the time. But yeah with Christian leaders. ye. 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