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From #440: Flatwoods Monster Redux Part 2: The Invasion BeginsJun 29, 2026

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We're here with Bob doing it Flatwoods Monster reductx partart two the invasion begins. We are back on the Flatwoods track. We did have a little bit of a deviation last week when we had Super producer Bill in here. doing the Swedish. I believe I called it the Swedish. Cyclops and friends. Oh ye, ye. That's a good time Exactly. Yeah. Well done sir. So a little bit of a deviation, but we're back on that flatwoods trail. and you and I were talking, we were like this will definitely bring us past the birth of America. Oh yeah. for sure. Yeah. I believe this actually comes out the week of july fourth. So there's just no way now. Yeah. I mean we could be looking We might have been just at it you know, without unforeseen circumstances. right. Now we are definitely canvassing. America's two hundred fifty birthday. Yeah little Sam. Yeah. And then a little bit beyond, But why not? Summer is for flatwoods and food F the summer flatwoods I mean I'm already in sumertime funboy mode ully now that I'm recovered. It's been a little like wet and garbage y. it's New York. It gets hot. You had two weeks of the incredibly good weather. Yes, we did. And now like you're back now gloom. A like. The fact that it's sixty three degrees out and rainy, I mean, you love it. That's fucking me. I'm happy as clam.. But we are going going back to West Virginia. Braxton County. We are Flatwoods and the surrounding areas, and I am super fucking stoked. I am T man. withithout further ados, let's jump in with history books rarely mention it But the summer of nineteen fifty two played host to one of the most alarming UAP flaps ever recorded While most UFO buffs are familiar with the Washington invasion of late July, few know of the September incursions that carried anomalous objects over some of America's most sensitive sites The U.S government viewed the events as an aerial intrusion by enemies unknown The response was a stark order to USAF pilots shoot them Hardcore. I mean America fifty two fifty two fifty two. We're like a global superpower. Bell's everywhere Exactly lls bells everywhere. No, it's definitely part and parcel of what was going on This is interesting. So today, just just in case people are eagerly awaiting Today is not the day for the main event Flatwoods thing that we you know that everyone knows. That is one hundred percent coming next episode. This is going to be a really fascinating and very little known series of events that led up to it Even I didn't know for the better part of my adult life. I mean, you know, so it's exciting because it really expands the Flatwoods narrative incredibly. And shout out to our boy, Cole Harold. Oh, absolutely. Him and I have friends on Pokemon go now. Really? send him little postcards on there. It's pretty sad. That's oure Yeah He's a master researcher. D Absolutely. work was indispensable in allowing us to do this. So yes, big shout. Such a great guy. Thank you co. You might enjoy it. Always my own. Okay Way back in the last episode, we talked about a harrowing close encounter involving a young girl we've dubbed Becky You two have encountered a massive pointy helm Gowing orange eyed thing on a wooded path in Sutton, West Virginia on september fifth. nineteen fifty two A town just six miles south of Flatwoods, also a week before the twelfth and the most famous sighting At the time, it seemed like an isolated incident, just one weird moment between a human being and something else, but Weird moments have a habit of piling up Throughout the summer of ' fifty two, there had been little hiccups in reality. Stange sightings on lonely roads, fleeting encounters on tree lined paths, odd things glimpsed out of the corner of one's eye and never fully explained. It wouldn't be until september twelfth that all hell truly broke loose It was a day that turned the lives Uside down Excuse me, that turned lives upside down and changed everything for the citizens of Flatwoods, West Virginia population two hundred eighty eight. Now, while pioneering researchers such as Ivanee Sanderson, Greay Barker and local reporter and Braxton Democrat co owner, that's the local paper at the time maybe still exists. I don't know, Ay Stewart, were instrumental in establishing the Flatwood story as we know it today It was investigator and author Frank Fasino, who years later painstakingly assembled many of the missing pieces and revealed that the famous mononster encounter may have been only one chapter in a much larger saga But before we dive back into the madness, let's let Fishino establish our settings In an article titled The Flatwoods Monster Incident, The Night They Were hereere Published in the excuse me, I fucking jump jump the line completely. published in the proceedings of the fourth annual UFO Crash retrieval conference held in Las Vegas in November of two thousand six. I had no idea they had the first three. Dude, that's. But the UFO crrash retrieval confference. I mean awesome. You know what you're there for. You know exactly. There's no guessing. Oh that shit shit 's' stillone sky Yeah. Don't get the fuck out of here. because ye down the hall asshole. This is not for. this does not count B them on the ground. Exactly. all the time. couldould be front. could be front. You they're like guysys, don't tell anyone, but we're actually talking about stuff that hovers. Oh you saw stuff landed. You're like guys Talking about vegetables. Vveget veie tables? Oh no, my favorite. So I love vegetabable aliens Ficino described Fletwoods as it existed in those final quiet days before the chaos, quote It's hard to picture, but in nineteen fifty two, there were only a few cars and one television in all of Braxton County The telephones and flatwoods were still run by a local switchboard operator and connected to party lines Listening to the radio and hanging out in front of the Flatwoods General store on weekends were still the main forms of entertainment. If you wanted to hear the latest gossip, the general store was the place to be In Flatwoods, people got around by riding their bikes and dirt roads and cow paths outnumbered the tar roads Several people lived off their land, everyveryone bartered with their neighbors Children could walk to school by themselves and people didn't have to lock their doors at night when they went to bed, end quote. It's an image straight out of a bygone America. Fishing holes, front porches, barbershop gossip, and lazy summer days, a mid century Mayberry esque existence built around the utopian ideal of small town life And whether that sounds idyllic or existentially suffocating depends entirely on who you ask Either way. The pastoral paradise known as Flatwoods was about to experience a tectonic shift that would leave some residents terrified, others outraged, many skeptical, and nearly everyone baffled But before we get to the meat of the metaphysical melee that was that thrust this tiny town into newspapers and newscasts across the globe, we need to finish discussing the for lack of a better word invasion of anomalous aerial objects that appeared above or maybe from below, the Atlantic Ocean before moving directly for the eastern seaaboard of the United States We also need to delve into the implications and obfuscations involving the UAP's trajectories their pilots' possible motivations and the government sanctioned co cover up, excuse me, of this airborne incursion ig big gos all over this Because while all eyes eventually turn toward a hillside on the Fisher farm something extraordinary appears to have been unfolding across the entire Eastern United States. So much bigger, much bigger than a small town. All right, man, this is this that was maybe the epicenter. Indeed. Okay As established in part one of the series, I originally wrote last episode, but I know that's not valid anymore. In the last part of the series, large wingless, often flaming orbicular objects were detected by both military radar operators and civilian astronomical observers as they moved inland from the Atlantic stranger still, many appear damaged Some reportedly crashed landed took off then crashed landed again Others were seen breaking apart in midair while others simply disintegrated on contact with the Earth. I really li the idea that they crashed, tried to go again and the crashed, was like, hh Yeah, you go. Just like a car that keeps stalling. don't know why I early SpaceX. Dude? Yeah. I don't know Oh no. The rocket, what was the dragon, whatever? exploding. That sad. That's sad to get your fucking shit together. Yeah. So there it is He's our a space critic Chris Carnicelli. I mean, I cannot be a space critic because I don't believe in parts of it. So there I believe in all of it. all of this is why we're different. I like the moon Yeah This is why we're different. Yeah. But we still manage to love each other. We do. There you go. We can get past these little We can do this. Picadill. We can grow a life together. He we have I mean, look at us here. On a bucolic front porch in flatwoods. Oh look at you find finding this spot All right, so Stranger still, okay, I fucking read that. You brought me to where I am. Anyone deserves credit for piecing together this sprawling puzzle, it's Frank Vishino. Digging through newspaper archives, he uncovered reports from september thirteenth describing a mysterious fiery object over Washington, DC. I continued to research library archives and discovered two september thirteenth articles that referred to a blazing object that passed quote unquote quote within a quote, I should say, awfully low over Washington DC on september twelfth. nineteen fifty two The New York Times headline read Flame over Washington Brilliant streak across skky Probably a metetor. course. I mean Yeah, you got to drop the probably. L come on. I mean,'s what that's what Big gov does.ay they pay the big editors to make the big changes on the big headlines. This is why they should not be allowed to own newspapers. No doubt And the Massachusetts Springfield News reported flaming object scene at Capitol It was said that this apparent meteor prompted, again, quote within a quote, jittery Washingtonians to believe that they were in for another flying saucer scare. Furthermore, I discovered, this is fino speaking still, that some of the UFO sightings reported by the press for september twelfth stated that some of these objects had crashed, end quote The reference, of course, to another flying saucer scare pointed back to the famous Washington UFO incidents of july nineteenth and twentieth and july twenty sixth and twenty seventh during the Great flap of fifty two. So again, we're talking about the The Washington invasion that we already mentioned and mentioned early in the last part of this, but that that was part of a much bigger UFone incursion. during that whole year which is really where the clamp came because at that point it was a decision. Do you just tell people fuck guys on the skies? We don't know what it is. Let's all be vigilant and work together as Americans. Or do you like say nothing to see here? It's all fucking space rocks. fuck you just so people can sleep comfortably at night and you can remain secure as a superpower that has everything under control. Yeah Well, especially in nineteen fifty two. especially you're coming down you don't want to meet, you'll be like, wait a minute. you go Oh God, L things really sock to confus ago, but like the money got suck really bad again. Remember the Nazis? They were a big problem. Yeah. Well, we' coming back just Not saying they're from space, just saying. I mean, there are space not to. and we will be briefly mentioning them. It's nothing I hate worse more than notots, nothing hate. cod space notots. Yeah. I know for you, that's got to be like the worst Anyway 't hate I don't want to go on a lp. like listen and fuck space Nazis. Bold state, Fuck Nazis and fuck space Nazis. Yes. Yeahah. definitely. I don't want to be controversial. I mean, God forbid, I don't to get too political here Come on say somebody el So someone's already mad for sure. All right. I can already see the comment. B Christ. Yeah. But Fashino wasn't finished. Turning from newspapers to the archives of Project Blue Book, he focused on Project one zero seven three record card ATIC fororm three hundred twenty nine whileile dealing with the Flatwoods case What he found was fascinating, quote, After getting the File segment on microfilm, I reviewed it and was astounded to find nearly two hundred pages of documents that referenced UFO sightings for september twelfth and thirteenth, nineteen fifty two. Most of these documents had to do with the UFO events on september twelfth and the Flatwoods Monster case. There was also a connection concerning the events of the thirteenth as well But a opinion that for now, we will definitely be getting to that later. Some really crazy shit happens after. Ficino's attention immediately, however, was the explanation Project Bluebook offered for the entire affair Though nowhere near as famous as the JFK assassination's controversial single bullet theory, the hypothesis that one bullet killed President John F. Kennedy while also severely wounding Texas goovernor John Conolly via a series of seemingly impossible turns through two bodies, it is absurd for any JFK fucking conspiracy boss out there. Don't even get me started on JK. Yeah that it's one fucking bullet. It appears that Project Blue Book and by extension, the Air Force and the intntelligence apparatus behind it adopted a similarly convenient explanation, thus dismissing a complex array of sightings over multiple states involving nearly ten unrelated UFO contacts as I shit you not a lone hunk of space debris that evidently hurtled in various directions simultaneously over no less than eleven states in what we've mockingly dubbed the single meteor theory. Yeah. Fucking absurd. Dud wasas this in the size of Rhode Island or something? something exactly came down? Did it come apart and then return together Yeah had But then, you know, if you weren't looking at the skies, you trusted newspapers, you trusted the government. It's fifty fucking two. Yeah, that's the thing. tell you like, o, it's multiple things of space daboris and you're gonna believe it. I mean Ething Yeah. everythingverything the government says at that point. You gott to find a lone astronomer, a rogue astronomer. The rogue astronomers in favorite And they're always played by Jeff Goldblum. The Ronan astronomers God, that's even better. mean. The breakaway ye' a sword and a warrior is an astronomer that doesn't have A mass exact, but he has a sword As the astromer you want to hang out with, when you're, I'm astronom, this is my So they're like whereere's Pluto? I don't know, has goneong. I think so. Masterless.ool. He's one of those ones that fucking still is convinced Pluto is a planet and is like, fuck you He beheads people for it. They don't blame him as ought to. He's the Ronan astronomer. Eactly. L loveve that guy. All right, cool God damn.'s right. You just got to agree with Well That's the power of the sword dude. It is the power of the City. That's how we got this far Think about it. No doubt. our enemies tremble me I'm not thinking about it. This dubious assertion smelled fishy from Wd goo, but The deeper fishino dug, the more preposterous blue books assertion actually became I discovered that the majority of the september twelfth documents pertained to what the United States Air Force called a single quote unquote meteor sighting over the Mid Atlantic region, spepecifically they called it the Washington arerea Meteor. According to a confirmation letter from the Ekron Astronomy Club, which you willll remember from the last Flatwoods episode, it was sited at approximately seven PM Eastern Standard time. and had a duration of five to six seconds with an actual velocity of twenty seven miles per second. According to the project, one zero zero seven three files, quote The West Virginia monster, so called Actually, the object was a well known Washington area meteor tber landing near Flatwoods. So this is the Blue Book's assertion. that it was A a well known Washington area meteor that landed in Flatwoods. That's what the monster was. despite the fact that the monster is not a fucking object that fell from the sky regardless. you can't say that is's what they're saying. Come on. getet it together. You're flat with West Virginia confirmation of an astronomy club from Akron, Ohio, which we did mention Again in the last part from President EC, that's a letter they got from the president of the club And quote, the same time excuse me, the same file listed the flatwood citing time as nineteen thirty EST or seven hundred thirty PM Eastern standard problem As Fashino pointed out, quote, the actual velocity of the meteor was said to be twenty seven miles per second Flatwoods, West Virginia is located two hundred and six miles west of Washington. This alleged meteor was traveling at twenty seven miles per second, it would have reached the Flatwoods area in about seven to eight seconds. To be clear thirty minutes seeven to eight seconds That discrepancy alone is enough to tank the government's explanation. And it gets even more ridiculous, quote. Additional sightings were also reported that night up and down the easastern Seaboard and were also said to be the same meteor called a fireball That's I'm sorry said it like I was going to say more than that in the sentence The government insisted that all of these sightings around the country were all attributed to The same meteor. But man, they they dog the government with that meteor math. Oh yeah. yeah, exactly.. Oh, definitely. This first person I've ever heard of me your m. I know I love it. It's pretty.. I probably would hate it like the second day of class, but I'd go in excited. I mean I would be I wouldn't even be in that class. It's still mad. I wouldn't be allowed near. I know I I don't have the grades. Lave. I I don't have the past credits to allow me into this class.. Meior math. Kidding me? Look no.. Fishino then compared newspaper accounts, Project Blue Book files and astronomical records What emerged was a radically different picture Next, I took all the information from the sightings that I found in newspaper articles and combined them with Project Blue Book sightings, sorry about the redundancy. I discovered What was said to be a single meteor was actually one of several questionable objects, Qestionable objects flew over a total of eleven states I discovered that these sightings were made at different times over different locations and were flying on different directional headings I then researched the astronomical history of meteors for september twelfth, nineteen fifty two, and worked with astronomers to find out more about the quote unquote well known Washington area meteor I discovered this alleged meteor was not so well known outside of the project BlueBook Files. According to astronomers, there was no meteor and not any meteor shower activity anywhere near the area on september twelfth. Furthermore, there have only been three recorded meteors that have ever landed in the state of West Virginia, according to their official records, and none of them landed on september twelfth. In other words, multiple targets were observed by military and civilian sources, yet astronomers could find no evidence that a meteor had entered West Virginia at all If Sanderson and Fashino were correct, then these weren't cosmic rocks, and whatever they were, they apparently weren't arriving from outer space More unsettling still was what these objects appeared to be doing Because once Pasino began plotting the sightings on a map a much larger and far more disturbing pattern began to emerge. one that should have sent a cold chill up the spine of anyone in the military or intelligence community already familiar with America's alleged UFO retrieval programs and the labyrinth of bases, departments and corporations said to oversee them If Fishino dug deeper, the scope of the mystery expanded dramatically.Qote, The number of sightings and events were growing and making it difficult for me to track on small maps To solve this problem, I combined several aeronautical maps together and made one gigantic map of the easastern United States to get an overview of all the sightings I then pinpointed the locations and times where these sightings occred throughout the east connected the dots, recreated flight path trajectories, and started to piece the entire story together. We can finally see the big picture as it occurred over the entire eastern United States The results of my investigation were that the Fame over Washington, that's the headline from whichever paper, actually flew over the capitol on a western heading at seven PM EST. I tracked the flight path across the country And it continued to fly on a western trajectory, the flaming object traveled about two hundred and six miles due west where it crash landed in Flatwoods, West Virginia about thirty minutes later Not a meteor traveling twenty seven plucking miles per second., see you can't you can't make up m meteors man. P can't make it up. Peopleut they got maps They got map Yeah. astronomical almost said nautical. I said nautical.'sor. Astronomical maps. we kn undernderwater meteors. Yeah.ery problem. Yeah, Nautical. Astronomical. Astronautical. Astronaical All right, that's the field of study I'm excited about I love it. Sace to water is water. Fuck the land. Space to water only. He continued I also tracked two other flaming objects that passed over the Eastern United States shortly before the object that passed over Washington, DC. so two came previous When I steeped back and looked at this big map hanging on the wall, I realized these three objects actually fanned out across the United States on western headings from the East coast. This is where it gets really interesting The first object flew on a southwest trajectory toward Tennessee The object actually flew more than one hundred miles through the restricted airspace of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and continued on a direct course heading toward this facility located in Oak Ridge, Tennessee For those unfamiliar with it, the Oak Ridge National Laboratory is no orrdinary research center founded in nineteen forty three as part of the Manhattan project Oakridge has grown into the largest science and energy laboratory in the Department of Energy systemystem, and we know the Department of Energy. deeply involved with the leegacy program, according to sources saying that. Its sprawling campus houses programs devoted to nanophase materials science Nuclear research, neutron science, high performance computing, environmental studies, national security, and a host of other cutting edge disciplines, such as physicist Lees Brussard's parallel universe project. That's a project. That's a fucking project. Okay, That's going on. I mean I mean everything is fucking stranger things behind the scenes, Really they're just doing a parallel universe pro. Yeah. I mean, okay, they they apparently they made pentium chips here back in day and now I've got parallel universe I mean, you always have to be ahead. Yeah, ahead of the enemy. You're ahead of everyone. That's right. ahead of God. Oh my God, hey. All right. In UFO circles, however, Oak Ridge carries additional baggage. The facility has long been rumored to play a role in the government's most deeply buried legacy programs and more recently, became connected to official UAP investigations when alleged extraterrestrial materials were reportedly analyzed there on behalf of the all domain Anomaly Resolution Office or Arow Whether one accepts such claims or not, the arrow thing is one hundred percent true. Right. Whether one accepts such claims or not, the notion that an unidentified object appeared to be heading directly toward one of the nation's most sensitive scientific installations is difficult to ignore Curiously, the object never reached its apparent destination. According to reports, it came down near the small community of Arcadia shortly before arriving at Oak Ridge, then departed the area and reversed course. Top secret scientific facility wasn't the only sensitive target that seemed to attract attention According to Fascino, quote, the second fiery object flew on a northwest course heading toward Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. end quote And once again, those familiar with UFO lore will recognize the significance of this destination For decades, Wright Patterson Air Force Base has occupied a central place in stories involving recovered saucers, reverse engineering efforts, and classified Air Force studies It is also the alleged home of the infamous Blue room described by an anonymous high ranking army officer to the late Leonard Stringfield, hypnotist, eologist, who he's been involved in other stories we've done as a quote, inner sanctum a veritable museum holding the artifacts of crashed saucers and ret rived Davers from Roswell. the blue quote.lcome. They admit it exist. They also admit that it's been dismantled. They have not admitted Aliens were there con all all but. It better be all blue I know. If it's not, it's like like blue light. If you go in there and it's like Fusia, you're like fuck you. Bro. What are you even doing? I don't care about the alien body anymore. You lied to me. You're You lied to me. Yeah exxactly. son of a bitch. You totally lied to me about your alleged blue room It's Ttal up a blue room with a bunch of good aliens in the corner. That's what I want. That's they fool people. Pe walk by, see off pink. Yeah. They're like fuck, that's not. ain't blue room. keep going. That's right. maybe.. Whether fact folklore or some combination of the two, Wright Patterson remains one of the most consistently mentioned locations in ephological lore Just as the object approaching Oak Ridge abruptly changed course, this one allegedly did the same According to Fasino, shortly before reaching the base, the object turned, redirected its course heading, then proceeded in the opposite direction toward the West Virginia panhandle, end quote Why it chose this destination is unknown What we do know, however, is that it almost caused an aeronautical accident quote It nearly hit a commercial passenger jet plane in the vicinity of the Wheeling slash Ohio County airport. shortly before going down in the panhandle near wheeling The object then took off and was seen flying southwest over West Virginia toward the capital city of Charleston Upon reaching this area, the fiery object actually crashed landed then lifted off Three times onn the outskirts of the Charleston, excuse me the object finally departed the area and I tracked it heading south over West Virginia. The last documented area where the object was sightited was over the town of Bluefield near the southern border of West Virginia 's fucking coming down going up The third fiery object that flew over the easastern United States was the so called Fame overver Washington passed over the nation's capital on a d S trajectory Fishino added, theseese three objects displayed several of the same characteristics along their flight paths All of them were reported to be on fire and had pieces falling off of them. These objects were disintegrating in mid air along their flight paths and then reappearing shortly after in other nearby areas Furthermore, he goes on. Each one of these objects crash landed in the United States and took off shortly after and one actually went down and lifted off on four separate occasions. She got a three bagger and a four bagger. Okay. It's just on fire falling They're just fuck. It just hits. It's go, go, go and keeps going We're still on fire. The grass didn't extinguish the fire This would make such a good movie. It would be I just want to see these things faneling like a mini series. a Netflix fucking like I don't even know. Four part mini movie series. Well, it's Netflix. they make it fourteen, but yeah Yeahah they woulditally. either way. it's a lot of story. Yeah, totally So fucking All right, sorry. here I'm Hannah. I've lost seventy five pounds in twenty months with GLP ones, plus diet and exercise. On Rowe, I've gone from struggling to run a mile to running farther every day. You can access FDA approved GLP ones online. Get the support you need to reach your weight loss goals. Go to Row dot co slash weight to see if you qualify. I'm a paid Rowe partner, twenty percent average weight loss in one year in non diabetics with obesity or overweight with a weight related medical condition versus three point one percent in placebo arm's only To stay informed about serious side effects, go to rowoto slash safy. 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I'm not sure it's Randy Newman either. so I'm probably just wrong as you. I'm not It is not Randy Newman. I'm not lording over. Oh man. You're gonna see the name and you're gonna be like how did I? It just has that Randy Newman like tooy story, there's like a preer, but preper. Yeah You're right. I did love Randy Newman's song for the movie Major League, having nothingpropose of nothing. S sometimes you make something that's in your head for days.ays sometometimes you make something that You hit my brain you want to leave my head. I get it. That I do Tom Cochran. Tom Cochrane We're so sorry, mister Cocker. The first one that came up was Rascal Flats. Oh boy. Yeah. All right. And I got real confused. All right, back to Flatwoods. Yeah, we're back to Flatwoods. Yes. All right U These three objects Okay forty location, six dates, timees span, thirty five minutes a single Meteor indeed that was supposed to be We weren't supposed to digress there. I was going to deliver that very sarcastically. Yeah. So yeah your Yeah. Indeed. A severe lack of anydy money. Yeah. Clearly. Indeed. Yeah. Yes And yet That was the explanation Project Bluebook ultimately embraced Flank waving small town nineteen fifty two America being what it was gambit actually worked. ably well, in fact, for decades, the single meteteor theory helped redirect attention away from what appears on paper at least, to have been a massive airborne incursion involving multiple unidentified objects traversing sensitive military, scientific, political, and industrial sites across the eastern United States instead, and understandably considering the sensationalism of it all The public's fascination was focused less on what was happening above and more on what happened after these objects came down. Hours before the now legendary encounter on the Bailey Fisher Fm, there were already signs that something very unusual was happening across Brexton County And here's where we need to narrow our focus a bit Because while it's important to establish the big picture, a cold by the numbers acc countounting of how many objects there were, where they came from, and where they ultimately ended up Trajectories and timelines are only one side of the story The other side belongs to the eyewitnesses, the people on the ground, the men, women and children who looked up and saw something impossible Some believe they were witnessing a tragic aviation disaster Others became convinced that they were watching a Soviet or stranger still alien invasion unfold in real time. few even found themselves far closer to these marauding UAP than they ever wanted to be word of warning before we continue The incidents we're about to discuss occurred simultaneously or within overlapping time frames. done our level best to arrange them chronologically No doubt a few errors remain. I of course blame the Bourbon, but as with all things, this timeline remains a work in progress. Nevertheless, it provides an essential overview of odd aerial events that unfolded on the afternoon of september twelfth, some of which struck much closer to home than the witnesses would have preferred. One such witness was five year old Peggy Kleice. Peggy's role in the story begins with a task that sounds absurdly adult by modern standards She had been entrusted with carrying a large glass bowl back to her grandparents' house next door. Bowl had recently arrived full of fresh garden greens, courtesy of Peggy's maternal grandparents the Harveys, and Eetiquette demanded that the cleaned and empty vessel be returned post haste Cradling the fragile bowl in her small arms, Peggy was likely paying careful attention to the sidewalk ahead, scanning for cracks, stones and other childhood hazards Little could she have known that the real danger at least the real distraction destined to come from above Hey later recalled quote As I was walking down the sidewalk between our house and their house, I was looking around and I looked up and I saw this huge ball of flame. end quote Her reaction was immediate. I started to run. I thought it was going to get me. I was running to tell my granddad to come and see. As I ran up the steps, the bowl flew forward and of course broke all pieces. My grandparents came running out to see what happened and I was screaming, There's a excuse not big. There's a ball of fire in the sky. It was moving fast. It came across the sky and appeared to go down the hill behind Cousin Mary Fisher's farm I didn't hear a crash or anything, end quote Though I'm not entirely certain, even though I tried to look up death records, a hoy.ight. One has to assume that Mary Fisher was likely the wife or at least some close relation of Bailey Fisher, owner of the property, owner of the property, excuse me, that would soon become ground zero for the events to come As to poor Peggy's experience, most of us have experienced the sudden panic of something flying far too close for comfort. Maybe a bird, maybe a bat, maybe, and I'm just throwing this out there, a baby pterodactyl come turkey culture. Whatever the case I'm still convinced it flew through time to terrify me as I was taking out the garbage. It happens, man Whatever the case. It's the sort of thing that causes a temporary collapse of dignity and composure Magy's gl shattering respse, however, wasn't merely a startled child's overreaction. According to her, the object was dangerously low.e We had a very large hickory tree and it was considerably above that tree, but it burned the leaves at the top of the tree That tends to grab one's attention When later questioned about additional details, Peggy said, I don't really recall a smoke trail behind it People talked about an odd smell that hovered over the town, such as burning oil or burning aircraft type smell. That's something that's evocative What fuck is that? Yeah, that smell. Yeah, that's like running electronicy type I or like who'z owning maybe on the both Yeah I mean, yes, that's a good guess as far as I'm concerned. She concluded, I did not smell that or see anything like that ote As for what initially caused her to look in the first place, she claimed, it probably made a noise. somethingomething drew my attention to look at it. Then came perhaps the most revealing part of her account Ased how her family reacted, Peggy recalled They swore me to secrecy, that I would never tell anyone that I had seen it. My family told me not to tell. my grandfather said it was probably a meteorite. and quote, fifty two. man I'm going to go back there un on hardart. I'm like God. We're going right to fifty three. Fuckt you D't tell anybody about the bowl you broke. In fear of the fire from the sky. The Lord's fire. The Lord's fire And there we find ourselves in all too familiar territory. Apparently being instructed to keep quiet and accept that extraordinary thing you witnessed was merely a chunk of space rock wasn't a privilege reserved for Project Blue Book officers or men in bllack By nineteen fifty two, years of ridicule, dismissal, and social conditioning had already done their work The public had learned the lesson Keep your head down Talk, don't be that person With a half a decade of the beginning of the modern UFO era Powers that be seem to have successfully convinced ordinary citizens to police themselves. But the consequences of Peggy's experience extended beyond broken glass and scorched leaves kind of wound that childhood experiences like this leave behind Tiny wound one hardly Visible not actually invisible onene that nobody can see. That's what I actually broke. That's what I actually broke. Yeah. I don't know why I was fucking headlipping on the plot. I'm trying to be like serious about childhood fucking trauma. I was Right It's like a place. It is a wound. Yeah ex place. but it's invisible to the naked eye. it's aart wound. It's a mental emotional. No one can see it but you and you close your eyes and eight and try to go to the bed, but you can't nailed it. absolutely nailed it Dying in stress. the kind that bore straight through the bone. It's like being It's about, excuse me, being told by the people you trust most, the people who taught you the difference between right and wrong to look at something wondrous and then pretend it never happened It's about seeing genuine fear in the eyes of the adults who had previously seemed infallible It's about realizing perhaps for the first time promise to protect you no matter what may not actually be able to fulfill that pledge Worse still, it's about discovering that reality itself may be far less stable than you were led to believe That subtle, sudden balance eroding shift that tells you in no uncertain terms the ground beneath your feet is no longer solid. Even more haunting is the revelation that beneath the surface of ordinary life, there lurks hidden truths. Buried revelations and existential landmines waiting for the slightest Pressure pressure but you just fking p.nder pressure. pressure Th't slightest pressure to trigger them. I'm trying to be fucking so serious, I'm fucking them A quiet click that promises nothing but temporary immobility Unavoidable despair and more often than not inevitable doom. And yes I know I was being a. Yeah, you really I know I went a little darker than you did too Thank God for the David Bowie break that fucking light things up a little bit. man, I' just been waiting to get my takeake me homeome tonight reference in here, but I have not been able to do it yet. And yet, fuck you anddd you brought him up, man. I was wrong with Tom Gager. I know you'reong, but you still brought him up Still I mean, I was closer. You were way closer. Yeah., but I was't right. What ifd anyy money was in the misfits? Oh my go, Ohh my Godd I can see the I said so now there's a universe where could happen one hundred percent that's a reality somewhere. I mean, but Danzig makes the misfits. this wouldn't be the same. It'd be like you wouldn't know him because Danzig would now miss it in that. Eddie Eddie Murphy Eddie Murphy Edie Mur the Murphy. He'd be pretty sickking like like the Ramon m I don't know. I know, I think it it would fit better in the Romones. I f but I think it's fucking funnier to in the one hundred percent. There is a universe out there where they're pissed at the idea. that Glen Danzig could possibly be because he had his solo career and he cren't like any money. did that. He was he was like the Roy orbit to the club was in the misfits. And they laughed. They laughed our fucking our Invisible counterparts. Everything's invisible. Yeah O other dimensional counterparts. Our childhood trauma.ude I'm trying to be. And yet. And yet, that wasn't the only trauma attached to Peggy's signing. We're not done I almost cut all this out, but I thought, no, I'm committed. All J just a complete fail. Here we go Like so many strange aerial encounters witnessed by children during the second half of the twentieth century, it unfolded against the backdrop of the Cold War. Peggy later told investigators, as a child, of course, this was during the Korean War period This was probably my first thought. Somebody was invading us And once again, concealed within the fears of a five year old child, we see that deceidedly twentieth century terror rear its ugly, bear like and undeniably red head, not picking on gingers, talking about comies here. Okay. In the end, everything went back to the stark looming horror of World War three Peggy, however, would be far from the only witness In fact, the grandfather of one of the key players in the Fisher Farm enncounter, a young man named Neil Nunley, whom we'll meet in the next episode. was sitting on the porch when he noticed a strange object approaching from the southeast The witness, AM Jordan, described the object as an elongated, wingless red ovoid whose underside appeared significantly darker than its upper half In an interview with Greay Barker, Jordan claimed he hadn't noticed the object until it was nearly overhead First, he assumed it was an airplane. Then he looked closer No nose, cone, no wings, no visible means of flight. And suddenly the thing abruptly accelerated westward, shedding fiery red globules behind it, like sparks from a grinder As if that weren't strange enough, Jordan then watched the object come to a complete stop in mid air before dropping toward the ground and disappearing from sight Whether this was the object associated with the Flatwoods mononster itself or merely one member of the larger aerial fleet remains open to debate. I don't know ye. It could be the same one that Peggy saw and might not One thing Barker made a point of emphasizing, however, was that Jordan, who would pass away only three years later in nineteen fifty five was no enthusiast of pulp science fiction or flying saucer stories. According to Barker, Jordan's primary frame of reference for mysterious objects in the sky wasn't Flash Gordon was the Bible Ezekiel and his astounding wheel Yeah That's a Yeah And if you're a super religious person, you see a flaming object that can change fl sparking thing freeze. It you know, piss and sparks and globs and fires. Isk kills back, baby? Iszekels back. That's right. exxactly. Let's go. The Lord's here. Let's go. Knocking on the door. You answer? You dressed, b? Jesus hath returned. I will never be dressed properly to meet the Lord at the door. I mean I figure at this point if if it's Oji Yahweh we' be safer with me Y God yeah. 'cause at least it just gets bored. It took me a second. I'm like, what Chris is absolutely right. It's Clyidus. I'm bored. When we get some hot hail? Yeah Yeah, whatever h. Gabriel, I'm bored. drown them all. Oh that's. D the wheel. Oh God. That'sut earth in half. Whel. Jesus Christ. Oh man. Okay. That's great At roughly the same time, another UAP was reported approximately six miles southwest of Flatwoods above the airport in Sutton, West Virginia Though the witnesses remain frustratingly anonymous, somewhere between thirty and forty observers, likely airport employees and weary travelers, reportedly watched a reddish orange globe moving toward the southeast. Again, don't know which objects this was and That was when Brexton County shheriff Robert Carr entered the fray His invitation to the dance arrived in the form of a frantic phone call from a local mechanic named I swear to the Baby Woodrow Eagle. That's the mechanic you want. L my name's Woodrow, Woodrow W You're like fix my car, please. Saying it out loud, Woodro fucking eagle. Fix my trickir. It's beautiful and majestic. It's a black velvet painting of a wolf nuzzling a cobra on a weight bench It sings to the stars with an American flag wrapped around its heart It's everything you need to know about the America I love Whroro fucking eagle.ro Eagle. Gone too soon. Eagle. yeah. I mean, he might be wrong. Maybe his longevity is legend. one hundred forty Oh probably. Eagle who had been hitchhiking home along route four from the garage where he worked. let's not even deal with the irony of a mechanic who needs a hitchhike. D drunk driving many. I mean, fifty two in a small town where you know It's a mechanic without a deal. You just get come you get driven home. Exactly. You get to o to sit in the fucking back jail and get it out the next day. Better be drunk when you're working on my car. Fuck yeah, that's the only way. That's the only fucking way. Anyway He was on his way home and he saw this and he called to report plane crash More specifically, he believed he had just watched a Piper J three cub, an American light aircraft manufactured from the late thirties through the nineteen forties veer sharply to the left cross over the highway and the Elk River and slam into a wooded hillside roughly fifteen miles west of Sutton and nineteen miles southwest of Flatwoods, just outside the tiny community of Frametown in an isolated and inhospitable area known as Sugar Creek The moment he got Sheriff Kar in the line, the eyewitness launched into his story. According to Eagle, immediately after witnessing the crash, he flagged down a passing motorist and practically ordered the poor soul to drive him to the nearest telephone Their first stop was the home of Anderson Hughes, a man who had apparently chosen to forego the benefits of Alexander Graham Bell's greatest contribution to civilization Turred. Eagle and his anonymous chauffeur continued another two miles to a gas station that had mercifully embraced the twentieth century and installed a fucking phone There was a curious wrinkle in Eagle story or two Eagle story Although he initially assured Sheriff Carr that the down craft had been a piper cub, he later admitted that the flaming object he'd seen, quote did not seem to have any wings. which as aircraft enthusiasts will no doubt point out, presents a bit of a problem for the Piper Cub hypothesis. Yeah. I mean, yeah, unless it's crashing unless it's lost its wings and it's crashing. Yeah, that's true. that case. I mean, you can't rule out the cub But it's in the midst of all this shit. It's true. And some weird shit happens. Okay. Okay In his nineteen seventy sevententy Jewesus Chrace, that's seventy six, in his nineteen sixty seven book uninvited visitors, a biologist looks at UFO's Scottish explorer, biologist, cryptozoologist, and pioneering paranormal adventurer Ivan T. Sanderson offered a somewhat different version of events and added an intriguing twist to the Woodrow Eagle saga While most accounts claim Eagle was hitchhiking home when he witnessed the incident, Sanderson maintained that Eagle was actually driving According to his version of events, after returning home, Eagle collected his sister and brother in law and brought them back to the crash location What they found was unexpected There was no burning wreckage, no shattered aircraft, no obvious impact sight. Instead, the trio reportedly observed strange lights moving up and down the hillside. Had this UAP managed to survive the impact only to take off again like so many other members of its purported fleet or had it merely disintegrated on impact. And or the strange lights moving through the trees I mean who the fuck know was just postulating resescue efforts Fl, woody things, I don't know. Saint almost fire. There it is As if that weren't odd enough, Sanderson revealed that he had interviewed an unnamed farmer who claimed he too had witnessed the object Eagle reported. According to this eyewitness, the thing came screaming horizontally out of the sky executed a sharp turn and then smashed into the hillside at Sugar Creek. His description a flaming bucket with a tail, which is not exactly a textbook aviation classification Sanderson further claimed that the farmer's brother who likewise preferred anonymity reported smelling burning woods later that evening while the chaos in flat woods was unfolding Looking toward the hillside, he allegedly observed smoke lingering near the location where the object had impacted. And yet Sugar Creek wasn't the only place where people see where people were seeing strange things Night Roughly ten miles north of Sutton and a little more than three miles north of Flatwoods in Heaters, West Virginia, ain't that a name for a place to live? Heaters Heaters Heaters. L loveve it. I fuckking it's gotta be Woodrow Eagle lives in Haters. Oh, it's the only way I mean, that's fuck yeah. dude. Sanderson reported that witnesses observed quote a bright globular object passing slowly through the sky at a low altitude heading towards Sutton, end quote For a man who initially approached the entire affair with considerable skepticism, Sanderson was slowly becoming convinced that he wasn't dealing with a prank, a misunderstanding, or a local talltale Something strange was happening somethingomething very strange indeed. and while We'll return to the Sugar Creek crash shortly. Now seems like an appropriate moment to examine what the primary modern researcher on this case, of course, Frank Vashino eventually came to believe about these intrusive UAP After absorbing Sanderson's work and supplementing it with years of his own abundant research, Fashino arrived at a startling conclusion In his view, the apparently damaged objects limping across portions of the eastern United States may have already been involved in hostilities before they ever reached West Virginia Specifically, he theorized that these undeniably alien vehicles alien at least in the sense that we have absolutely no idea where they came from potentially been damaged during aerial engagements with U.S. Air Force fighter craft somewhere over the Atlantic as they approached the American coastline course leaves open an array of questions. So he thinks for we get to these questions. that there were dog plates king Yeah just off the coast. It's not far from what I was thinking. I think more like Elier, they said something about they didn't see any meteors and September or whatever I'm pretty sure September is a pretty big medor fucking month. So I'm not saying I mean, not that these are meteors, but like R, right. But responsibility. Maybe whatever if it was a craft, it got fucked up by the meteors not a dog fight. Oh, that's interesting.. Yeah the military in Like a fleet's flying They get into a meteorors. That's why if' see meteors, they come down to Earth for the g Bright they meet us or they just I mean, they just maybe got fucked up. I don't know, who knows. mean I mean, you're not expecting can't take it off the table. I mean, worst luck, they got hit by meteors. they came down, then they got hit by the Air Force. I'm a double whammy. because we can't win. Honestly, I mean, I mean, it ist wayait for everyone kind of to be right Right. Yeah, it is. you know I mean, like this way nothing's like wrong. I mean, I think it's fascinating. And also it might help to explain if indeed it did happen that way why American even the top fighters of the time were able to damage something so technological like sci fi caliber technology. which ordinarily you'd think It takes like radars and electricity. if you're going to go byy Roswell Ledge.id they got top gunned? Hardcore. Maverick B alien. There you go. Did I mean even you know, once the enterprise loses its fucking shields, it kind of sucks. It does suck. A come rubble a blast, you have no weapons, you have nothing and you suck. You' the best heck ever. So he speaks the truth. That's absolutely true. It' just say. Okay. I mean, there was that Star destroyer during the Battle of Eendor that was literally taken out by the A wing flying into it. Soy Again, no shields. They ret turned to Skywalk, they got taken by horses. They rode of horses. I almost remember that mo like a bad dream. it couldn' have possibly happened O of those like, feavver dreams you're like,'reid hes on the.iterally It's a group stormtroopers that are riding horses across a Sith empire fleet that was built under the ground by Palpy because he's still alive 'ause he's still alive. They gom underground. g them underground. Big seeds. Bring it back. bring it back. Okay, okay. All right, here we go. All right. so Was this fleet robber? These are the questions Was this spleit the spearhead of an invasion a rescue mission dispatched to recover a stranded comrade, perhaps even the same entity that had terrified young Becky a week earlier Were these NHI conducting reconnaissance missions against facilities rumored to house recovered technology, alien bodies, or perhaps even even living UFO occupants, some of which may have been of their own species Again, your guess is as good as mine. What we do know, however, is that the pilots tasked with intercepting these objects likely couldn't have cared less about their motivations The objects were entering American airspace and they were not welcome Even more intriguing is what Fashino Do you excuse me, uncovered next, quote I also discovered that there were other reports of mysterious incidents involving jets that night And my research took on a whole new perspective. I discovered that the United States Air Force had actually issued orders to their pilots to shoot down UFOs if they refused orders to land This was revealed in july nineteen fifty two of that year and only weeks before september twelfth, nineteen fifty two, when several damaged UFOs crashed in the United States With the assistance of Stanton T. Friedman, Big Rips And several other researchers, I amassed a collection of data concerning the little known shoot 'em down story from nineteen fifty two The subject fascinated Ficino so thoroughly that he devoted an entire book to it publishing Shoot them Down, The Flying Saucer Air Wars of nineteen fifty two in two thousand seven. Now full disclosure, I have yet to read this undoubtedly fascinating tone, but from What I understand, it explores a wide array of alleged interactions between American fighter pilots and unidentified aerial objects Mysterious pilot disappearances missing aircraft and how these incidents may intersect with the broader Flatwoods narrative And all of this raises some uncomfortable questions Had a war been declared between the United States and some unknown adversary One that hailed not from the stars, but perhaps from the ocean's depths or some even stranger realm entirely If so, who won Or is it still ongoing Do we have allies in this conflict, human or otherwise And perhaps most importantly, how have we managed to hold our own against what would appear to be vastly superior technology? You must wonder Were the Flatwoods entities, peaceful beings caught in the wrong place at the wrong time aliens, aquanauts, time travelers, warriors or explorers who inadvertently wandered into the meat grinder that was the twentieth century and found themselves facing heavily armed fighter pilots If the secret war does exist, could that be why the alleged reverse engineering programs hidden away inside the bowels of billion dollar corporations and clandestine military facilities are guarded with such feroocity Is it about money? certainly. Power without question But perhaps it's also because this technology represents the frontline in a hidden conflict stretching back nearly eighty years a struggle against entities so strange and powerful that they challenge not merely humanity's dominion of Earth but our understanding of reality itself mind reels at the possibilities. Still ades of testimony from people claiming to have participated in this alleged hidden war From Tales of twenty and back space soldiers to stories of enormous starships and the purported interplanetary patrols of the Solar Warden program a compelling picture of a breakaway human civilization struggling to defend Earth from hostile extraterrestrial forces and occasionally hostile humans looking at you space Nazis from our bases on the Moon, Mars, and beyond Those stories are epic in scope and one day I'd love to attempt the all but impossible task of chronicling them Today isn't that day oday were returning to Braxton County to september twelfth, nineteen fifty two and the aftermath of the alleged crash at Sugar Creek So again, A lot of people claim we're in the middle of a space warar have been for fucking decades that parts of the government just keep it hidden because Why live with that terror when we've got All sorts of other fuckers up in space dealing with it I mean, it would or not Croborate Lacera Yeah, it sure sure would. Yeah I would. Yeah, one hundred percent. Deades of fucking space wars that nobody sees. I mean, maybe this is what Corbeel's been talking about the entire time Hidden space force? Yeah I't know. Maybe he knows what the Hiddenpace Warars is this is why he can't talk about. He does have a haunted look. He doesings that beautiful beard And you know he could lead. He could definitely. he's definitely planning out. Yeah, hundred percent. He's lead what the alien SWat team the movement. Yeah to more John Connor.. He's our John Connor, dude, there you go He does know Kung fu. He does. There' some variation of martial arts. I feel like my gray and my beard and his gay and his beard are kind of like grang together. Yeah. Like we're like like you're agge aid, L we're tied together spiritually. Like you're quantumly linked Exactly.ationist. happens that his beard happens to your beard? Yeah. happens your beard happens his beard. dude He something dumb. You say something dumber. Yeah You say something dumb you've heard him What do you think? Say something right now. What video do you want to come out with? What video Area fifty one. that's lame. No m. Flat was you're not helping Aa fifty one. your quantum twin a bit with that. I want the alien autopsy to be real. Yeah, everyveryone did. Okay I know.. Thank you, Fox. Thank you Fox Okay, we can dream. Okay While the skies and in some places the ground itself seemed alive with anomalous activity, Sheriff Carr and Dputy Berneell long Excuse me don't I read this so fucked up. Yeah. Long It's a fucking name. What am I doing? Sheriff Long? Professional reader. There you go. Excuse me. Sheriff car and deputy Berneell Long Hell Answered, Witro Eagle's frantic call and headed out to Root four to investigate for themselves Whether they arrived too early too late or simply missed Eagle and his companions entirely remains unclear. What is clear is that they found themselves alone. and unlike the other witnesses, they reported finding absolutely no evidence of the crash. Well, I shouldn't say unlike, because they didn't either. They just saw fucking weird lights. No wreckage, no fire. So I should have said like the other witnesses in this case, no mysterious lights. They saw nothing. The officers quickly determined that properly investigating the alleged impact site would require crossing the Elk River by boat and hiking up the steep hillside beyond Unfortunately, well fortunately for them probably, there were no boats available, and given the complete absence of any visible wreckage, neither man felt particularly compelled to launch an expedition into the darkness as it was slowly becoming twilight. As far as they were concerned, they had performed their due diligence case closed. And honestly, Carr's decision was understandable. It was late he was probably hungry, almost certainly tired and likely looking forward to putting his feet up and calling it a night Carr and Long believed that they had narrowly escaped an exhausting all night search operation. They were in for a rude awakening. Because only moments after returning to the station, another call came in a cult that would not merely alter their lives, it would alter the lives of virtually everyone in Braxton County The report concerned an incident that would become the stuff of legend an encounter involving an enigmatic entity that continues to fascinate researchers, skeptics and believers alike. more than seventy years later The event unfolded on a neglected overgrown section of the Fisher Fm and involved a thirty two year old mother A seventeen year old national guardsman Six boys, a dog and one extraordinarily bizarre, seemingly semi robotic being that would etch itself forever in the hollowed halls of paranormal lore and the minds of everyone unfortunate enough to have encountered it It's the big daddy event of the whole giant paranatural mess. and it's a case we'll be covering next week Medical emergenccyies not withstanding. Yeah. And an episode Titled The Green monster. Flatwoods Monster reductx part two, the invasion begins there. It is interesting little tie in here with all this crazy UAP stuff going on. Like so much bigger than I ever thought. Yeah, this sponkers how this was just nobody knew Nobody Yeah thought to like it was just it was t down by the government justust flaming nobody into it. strange. multiple. And of course there it's over like some top secret places. so They're not reporting it. R Patterson isn't like calling the press, neeither is Oakridge. No not at all. You know, Obviously the capitol is the capapitol. People covered that sighting because don know people saw it.. Yeah. Yeah, the capapitol Oak Ridge and Wright Patterson I mean, it's like it's like a trifecta People once, they kept alien bodies someomewhere in the Capitol buildilding, like way back in the day I think that's probably what a terrible place to get watch. Oh my Godd. unless you got secret like Dan Brown cripp, I mean, I was gonna say maybe that's the perfect place if fuckking. I mean What's in the Washington Monument? Oh deead alien? Quartz. It's a gigantic fucking quartz antenna. And that bring contact the dead.. Listen to him Oh God the ghost of Georia Washington himself crosses the Delaware on the back of the ghost of the fllatwoods. Wow. Yeah. It is funny that like All of this happened kind of just post World War two, the whole like the decade following like the ending of it. Yeah. It's just like I feel like maybe there it was, you know, slightly ramping up before. there was some things and then We drop a nke and they're like oh wait a minute. mayaybe we step in. we were going to do like the Star Trek thing going to be like, hey we're here. Yeah And're like,, we got to do something because they're gonna get fucked if we don't. And then we come in and now they just get ordder to shoot us down All the time you know. Yeah actually. So they're probably like, you know what? we're fucking leaving. and that's why look's the And maybe, you know, now's the time because they they're like, Hey, it hasn't a war in fucking a devastating Maybe we'll try again. Yeah. It's been a while since like World War anyway. Yeah. Yeah. It's not be like yeah like a big in R. But that's an interesting point you bring up there though with like World War two and the Kirishima and Nagasaki like dropping those bombs. I mean, it's undeniable It was kind of like' a time like, hey What are those guys down there doing? like Right? I don't want to go talk to a man. They're such a bummer and they gotta come down Knock it off L like what are you doing? manan, I'm going fuck Here's my cousin in the flatwoods Good luck. There's a British Eologist who was one I think that compiled the famous humanoids book Gordon Crayton but I'm probably fucking up his name completely so don't hold me to it But he was like somehow for some reason he was an old British guy, like fucking white hair crazy, big thick black glasses like like a fucking English Harry Cry And he was fucking talking about how the nukes are do damage, do a tremendous amount of physical damage, but they are fucking damaging dimensional walls. They're notking on the dimensional doors. potentially doing more damage in alternate levels of reality. So that you're just like doing your work of day shit in another fucking parallel earth that's just overlapping Eth or under or however the fuck it works and then suddenly Bright streakaking part of your civilizations fucking gone. Like half your town's is just gone. and that some of these like intrepid fucking U Uufanauts are coming to. I mean, just out see what's up. That's just a theory. It's not one I necessarily subscribe to. Just the technology like just the fact that you're splitting an atom, the basis of all everything. Yeah. Like let's split it and then let's make this happen I'm not a scientist, but I'm going to assume possibly something else outside of our realm of visibility could be happening sureure. We maybe they fraction maybe Yeah at least I mean, if it was like they believed in the fifties If it's aliens and they believed in interplanetary aliens, whichich is the theory we grew up with. They're from another f planet. We're exploring another hostile deal. Martians. I mean, maybe you could detect an explosion of that magnitude, like a hydrogen bomb and be like f's going on over here? Y. And you check And that was always like that's the leading theory for many decades. Be they're always coming down telling us to knock it off. Right. So like, hey, Yeah k some are, someome are not. Well, yees, some are telling us to do and some yessue. the ones that do give you the fucking slide showow. They're pretty hard on what we're doing to the environment and nuclear power and technology in general, if you think about the aerial school invasion, like they're just like, fuckking, we have too much technology, fuck you. I mean get rid of your toaster immediately Yeah, sometometimes you with the b. want D you want to interterpletary war for brown bread? I mean crispy brownad. must love data centers. It must be really excitingmagine. Or what about fucking Cern and all the other fucking sliders that we got in the world. Yeah that are allegedly fucking up the nature of reality. If anything, that would be the big one. L, could you guys please stop having this thing travel around in a giant circle really fastause you're making parallel fucking branch of reality every time you do it. And then you get mother fuckers thinking Sinbad was a goddamn genie. Maybe that's what happened to us. We're on a different branch of as. I think just it's internet's fault and people need to knock go on it. That true. Yeah. that never would happen. I blame the internet for a lot of ills. I agree.efinitely.'s this problem. Plenty of reasons why aliens would come here to police us. Blame the interet. No, yeah, it could be it could be that as well. I mean, I really feel like if they were grrossful enough, they could just do it wouldn't fuckking matter and they can do anything Well if that's the going theory. likeike they have the technology, they have the ability, if they wanted to be conquerors. I mean, if the Spanish could do it in South America with like some guns some horses and a couple of big boats. Yeah, certainly they could to the entirety of Earth. That might not be their agenda. They might not those terms Sometimes they may want minerals, sometimes they don't But it also might be too. They're playing a long game If could have ten thousand years then waiting seventy eighty years to attack T them, it doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. That's like a few months in preparing for war. If anything think' wait for us get wiped out like it's even easier now. yeah, that's know. They would drop a disease probably before they would fucking start laser blasting the Empire st. There's aillion ways to do it, especially now because nobody Please, anything's fucking real Yeah. So it' like they could come up in the biggest mothership of all time. I'd watch him be like, it' fucking h. Right. Well the people that are actually there there would be like fuck even they're like' David Blegramming fucking drones making the fucking shame. sureure sure. E then and someone's going to film it It's not going to be in four case I mean, I'm say that because I would probably be that guy probably I mean we would all be I mean, they'd have to walk that fucking door. Like like seriously like it would take a lot. like, well, we better get the mic and the camera out if they're going to sit down and talk. And it's true. if the president did come out and finally say like we are not alone Well, of course we live in a very bifurcated fucking nation. so half would just hate Yeah, the source of theg messger Yeah speech apparently has been prepared and is supped to be given at some point allegedly according to the internet. I mean, maybe maybe the next time the Epstein files get brought up. Yeah ye no, that's already we already got a war cover in that one We'll see closer to like the next presidential election. We'll see what happens and ends of getting ramps up and what is now Yeah ye, right It's a aquarium one I think. Back in the nineteen fifties, it was easy to clamp down on something like this But this while they weren't necessarily aggressive, they didn't destroy anything. No They didn't crash into buildings before taking off. they didn't actually even get to the Oak Ridge laboratories or Right P, But it's almost like they were scanning. because maybe they could sense, I mean, I'm going to Star Trek again. There' sensors. ostensibly could detect other alien technology or lifeforms Yeah and they might have been drawn because you know because you see Batel was running the lab there, I think at Oak Ridge. and Pateel is another one of those companies that is always brought up in terms of the legacy programs. So there's every reason to think that they were detecting Fllow alien technology, even if it wasn't theirs or necessarily their species, and they were curious about it, but they still backed off. They didn't attack plane. Well, we don't know that because the fifty two thing has a lot of missing planes and missing pilots. So maybe they did some shit in self defense, some mantel type shits, even though that could have been just a plain old accident But anyway, it's interesting that this was covered up so thoroughly And that' right there for anyone. Fishhingo found it. I'm not saying he didn't do great work unearthing it he did But it was right there in the paperwork for someone to do and And at that time's kind of it's kind of mean I do get it. I mean like said in there, like it's fifty two. peopleeople are going to be on an edge. You don't want to put out fucking like several things over several states seen in the sky Yeah likeike you're just after we jroped to a fucking new. You know, I mean, Eisenhower era, you're asking for mass panding. There's and Truman, there's every reason to think They were it was good intentions to hide this. Yeah Be America was on high and the war had been hard. suuper hard obviously on soldiers, but hard on the people back home going without you know, just doing all the shit they had to do to, you know, the fear of enemies coming from either ocean at any time. You know, it's because we've all we've been raed we were born in You know, seventies and eighty So fucking we were it was just a thing. America won is a big deal. We know, it's full of Joh Wayne movies and Battle of the Ballge and it's also past tense. But living through it and not knowing if you're going to fucking win That must have been terrifying. So I can see you don't want to fucking add unknown potential enemy of much greater power than the Nazis the Japanese or any of the Axist powers had, or the commis, even because we'd already been embroiled in the beginnings of the fucking Cold War. I can really see where you would not say that Yeah. I mean who knows if if it you wouldn't I mean, this is like the in the midst of the boomer births Right Yeah Right. So I mean, that's why people are say, God, we're safe forgetting we're a pork and you just h all bomers It's just houses in the suburbs. Big candal And this is it Yeah we're to do the call of the future now. we're fucking make eggs their mes. Look this fucking toaster. just makes eggs. m hading.oaster makes eggs. Its chicken makes eggs withes. My God have gone too far. My God, they've done too much. You're right, they were super optimistic. I mean, as dark as the Cold War. Let's make a Walmart. It was. Pople were very opp. But yeah, can see it post. I mean, that had have been a huge fucking thing. like holy shit they all always won. Yeah. we fucking won. We fucking a pork and e ham. Oh, yeah fucking pizza and we're gonna party for the Fuck for gold again. No one was fucking for gold. World War two. Aren't they? No. exxcept for Sisu. Brovy, by the way Any movie where you kill Nazis on Mos, I'm gonna. that the second one too'. I' never seen the second one either. I gott watch the first. But we've got the Flatwoods fucking monster finally coming next episode. Next week Baby flatst addditional info that we did not have access to before. C like watching the Mthman movie and just feeling like this this is just one percent. You know what I mean? It's just like now like from now on, like the Flatwoods is this whole thing. Yeah It isn't just that. It isn't just that anymore. Yeah.ight. There's like whole fuck thing now which could have greater implications on the road And I mean again, I mean, it's plucking West Virginia. Yeah. I'm not saying any association with association with the M manan I'm not saying there's not. I'm just saying it's fucking There's Gotta be something going on Something in the air tonight. The whole st is a llap. Yeah don't really though. Dude,' all made of quart. 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