Gavin Newsom and Future Presidential Prospects

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Get started at engine d. com slash En. Fair exchange. I'm Donald Trump. I'm the president of the United States I should get something out of this. It's not just For him, it's truly revenge a revenge that he deserve and a step beyond certainly any kind of Griff that I'm familiar with, even historical Giff It's a whole much more elaborate psychology here. Yeah in which in which He deserves it. It's not Cynical, as much as it is them in I mean, he literally sees this world in which he deserves to get this money. He deserves the rewards said U I never thought it would happen I realize we should be at the state fair. We should have gone down to DC because we keep saying we're going to go on the road and explore America. We should have gone down Other than the fact that it's one hundred degrees in Washington, so we would truly be the only ones there which is no reflection on the state fair is a reflection on the fact that no human being See this week. But it's also a reflection on the state. Maybe. But you know, I want to defend Trp on Really? Yeah. There's nobody there. There's nobody there aart from. Yeah, totally, absolutely true. Piticians can't put on these kind of events. They're just too square. They they they are too square. I mean politicians cannot do Entertertainment, even Donald Trump. Oh, come on, UFC, he did. UFC you might not be a UFC fan, but that was an event. G good good point. That was. actuallyually Donald Trump is great at this. So what is he I mean reverse it completely. Right, with the Okay, well, I wish we'd gone to the state for one hundred degrees or not. I'm now used to one hundred degree temperatures and we could have ded in and now Grateful hotel for. I'm grateful for not The Trump hotel is not the Trump hotel anymore. Oh, is it gone? gone, gone I'm grateful for not being there. We could have gone to the club there. the club that costs in theory half a million dollars to join which has Don Jr on the board. Yeah no. Listen, I am available to go places. You are You can't go places because you are always somewhere else. I was. You've given me such a hard time over this. It's so unfair I was, as you know, in the UK for a long time, Th I had to go to France, but now I'm back Now I'm back and we have to You know what we should ask people, Where should Michael and I go? No one has to go to France They kind of do. They kind of do. Anyway, I realized my son is investment number one and I actually for the first time ever got a dividend because I got to stay with him free of charge the first time ever. So the The long invest' beginning to pay off. Yeah ye. Well, we should ask people, where should we go? We could go to, you know where I've never been and I'd like to go Mount Rushmore We could go to Mount Rush only place behind. The only place I wanted to go was Greenland. And what happened with that? Yeah. What did happen? It fell off the news. No one's going to want to pay for Mount Rushmore. No one's going to want to pay for Walking the Dakotas, right? Mount Rush. Okay, so I wonder if the Dakota Tourist Office would like to pay for us to go. I think we could give it some good publicity We could also photoshop it. You could do on your Instagram with your face at the edge of it. So it's all those presidents and then Michael Wolf. Hear them You're truly cheesy I'm high on two coffees this morning. That's the issue. Just before we go, I just want to remind people what we're going to be talking about today. So we've got Scotus decision And we're waiting for the birthright citizenship to drop any moment. We've got the Strait of Hormormuse, who's paying for it We've got the staggering levels, new levels of GF, just as you thought the GrF couldn't get bigger. it does And then we've got a surprise for Michael a surprise from the past for Michael. And remember those quiz shows when I was growing up when they used to bring out someone from your past? Yes. It's a bit like that. We've got a surprise for you a bit like that. And of course, no surprise asking you to support our independent conversations because we're independent media with a subscription to the Daily Beast. So press your subscription button wherever you get your podcast, you can become a friend of the Beast, which has all sorts of incredible benefits Friend of the Beast with benefits indeed. Kazakhstan critical minerals Tungsten Hston, who knew that it was necessary to make everything more lethal I did Oh you did. I did. And obviously the Trumpps ys new. Theyre try everyverybody does. How new too who is out to make a buck. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's An extraordinary story. G. I mean, I can't even I mean the grrift is the grrift and the Gift is there, but this is like completely out in the open We're the Trump boys I mean, get this. So the the United States is financing a mining deal in Kazakhst U a deal promising to you know, make billions and billions and it's a I mean, I'm sure the U. S. probably should should do this makes a lot of sense Um The Trump boys, so the sons of the president of the United States have gotten a piece of a deal that is. possible The deal is possible because the United States is putting up the money for it So therefore the Sons of the president of the United States are directly benefiting from taxpayers. Right, R. And so the United States is putting up the money to build the critical facilities to start the mining, right Exact exactly. And then there's this this other interesting thing that there's this investment bank. invvestment Bank in the middle of this Damon it's called And Domani, where where are the offices of Domani? Well, they sound like they should be in Tehran. Where are they? No, they're in Trump Tower. Oh, they're in Trump Tower. Yes. Of course Of course O of course this is like this is does does no one care? Does no one see But let's they don't. Donald Trump says nobody cares. And you may not be wrong You're eating french fries at the beach and you want to take a quick dip in the ocean. so you put a seagull on watch. That's not security, that's catering for the seagull. There's a reason you wouldn't trust a seagull with your fries, just like there's a reason why Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. 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Let's go back to the the reallyally interesting thing is Donald Trump thinks about this Mm, um, And and we we tend to think of this see him as he's completely cynical just giveive me the money I don't think that that's exactly the case I think it is that he is profoundly in his mind in his head believes he deserves this He has it's a fair exchange. I'm Donald Trump. I'm the president of the United States I should get something out of this. Does he and is this because he feels that he was U you know, persecuted during the four years. Well, yes and that is that's also the thing. So it's not just It's not just for him, it's truly revenge a revenge that he deserve So it's revenge He is due Right that he right. right. So but this is this is I mean, this is an important thing and a step beyond I think An any Certainly he kind of Griff I'm familiar with even historical Giffs in which the grifter is not like I'm going to, you know, I'm doing it, I'm getting I'm I'm, you know, I'm I'm feathering my nest. It's a whole much more elaborate psychology here. Yeah in which in which He deserves it He is They've they've the the the system This is all Donald Trump always against the establishment and the system. And they've done Done me raw So I should be paid So he's sort of self adjudicating. He's re addressing the balance. He feels that first time out He got a rum deal Right. So it's not How much money did he make from his first? Its just as it's not cynical as much as it is Demment Ded. I mean, he he literally sees this world in which He deserves to get this money. He deserves to be rewarded. Okay, well his sons are getting rewarded and nobody seems The sons are just the agents of this, obviously I mean, that's the other thing. The sons are just the Trump wackkeies and the irony is delivered to. The irony here is The irony here is that Donald Trump was broke when Mark Burnett picked him up to be on the apprentice. He played a successful businessman when he wasn't, but he got paid a lot for the show because The show was so successful and now He's in office for the second time as president. turnurns out to be a successful grifting businessman I mean, he's going mean really more money. It's pretty easy to be a successful grifter when you're the president of the United States. That's the point. And yet and yet the last That's why we make a thing. you know, you know, you shouldn't if you're the president of the United States, you shouldn't be self dealing. But that's what's extraordinary. because if you look back over the last few presidents, none of them were accused of doing that to any great extent, right? Maybe there was Um There was sort of fishy stuff with Dick Cheney, right? At one point, he had shares in Black Rock and Halliiburton and they were being used in the Iraq warar, but there was nothing like the scale of what's going on There's There's nothing like the transparency of what's going on now. There's no effort to hide this Although Domani, the So board of Dari B Bard of Demani. Well, I think the Trump boys are have a have an advisory role. an advisory role. Exactly. So Um Demmented, not cinnical. Yeah. I mean, that's the other thing It's the other I think profound misunderstanding about once again, and we've talked about this before, about how to understand what's going on in in Trump's head There was a piece can't remember in the times. recently about The election stuff about Trump trying to subvert election about how his well your point, I think his campaign strategy is to try and sow confusion around. Well,, no, it's actually more more about You know, he believed the election was stolen from him. And then the time the time's position, which is common you know, flat footed position was was that, you know, that he's cynical that he's trying to, you know, that this is He's just using using this as the excuse to do what he wants Again, I think a profound misunderstanding and that The truer way to look at it is that he believes or has come to believe or it has been so convenient that he has convinced himself that this is absolutely true So this is a more serious condition than I'm a cynical guy in doing this It is again demented. He has come to believe, he comes to believe in his own realities That's a more serious situation then, um, than someone who is just exercising some meritritious strategy. Ogreed, or greed, just exercising extreme deep levels of greed. Right. there's a logic to that This has departed logic All right, so is he going to eventually put up Tollgate on the straight ormz I mean, what's happening? I don't know if we're at war or not. We have a memo of understanding that both sides are hurling. Th at each other, it's all a mess And also it feels like it's going to be one of those things that now just carries on going that there are going to be mean, I think I think you have it. I mean, I think that that that Iran has won. I mean, they made it about the strait of Hormz. So that's it. and we've been saying it's the, you know, the Hormz war and they seem to have actuallyually One? They control it it's I mean I mean, there was a there's an announcement today or or or a story about the possibility that Oman and Iran have gotten together and that they will together U contontrol it. impose this this toll on the straight. So and split it God knows how, but but nevertheless There was The Strait of Hormuz before this war began was free passage. Now it is not. now it is controlled by Aan. That is what Donald Trump has achieve Also terrifying to be on one of those tankers and not know whether or not you're going to get through. Well, that's the point. That's how you control the strait of mo No, I understand that, but for the poor men and I'm sure there are very, very few women you know, actually running those tankers through, you're sort of taking your life in your That's why you don't go through. That is precisely the calculation that gives you control over the strait of Hormuz. You don't know. right. It's existential unless you pay And then if you pay, you get free and it now looks like it's going to be two million dollars a tanker for the pult. I And Donald Trump is not going to want to not be in on that two million dollars U Yeah, well, I don't know how he gets in. I mean, I mean, this is this is this is you have to cast this larger. This is such a phenomenal in every single way. And there's another aspect of this that basically You know, this this deal is going to free up an enormous amount of cash for the Iranians. I mean, all of the three hundred billion dollars All of the sanctioned money is going to funnel back from them. So this. the original goal here. And this really was the originally the paramount goal was to get rid of the regime, right The result The end product now of this effort is to finance the regime It's crazy. So the regime' going around it. Well, there's a fair amount of outcry, but it's also a complicated subject And that's one of the interesting things that will be in terms of in terms of the midterm elections. fourour months away, is this forgotten by then? But it's not that complicated. Donald Trump ripped up the previous deal under the Obamas, the JCPOA A The minute he ripped it up in twenty eighteen, the Iranians started enriching anium again. And then he created a much worse deal where we are, as you said, financing the new Iranian regime. The people didn't rise up as he called on them to do And we're stuck now with tolls in the Strait of Hormz all of which had been played out by previous American presidencies and they'd all resisted that siren call of Benjamin Netanyahu to go to war for Israel's bidding. Well absolutely. I mean, the tragedy is actually the low threshold of what is complicated in American politics. That should not be complicated One thing I've been thinking about a lot lately is how easy it is to go through life just assuming everything is fine until something isn't I feel like so many doctor' visits end the same way. Everything looks fine, drrink more water, see you next year. Meanwhile, I'm left wondering am I getting enough nutrients? How's my metabolism? What should I actually be focusing on? That's why I'm excited about superpower. Superpower takes a completely different approach. 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Yeah worst deal ever. Yes it actually has to be attached to prices pump at the pump. Well, the prices is at the pump, the price is for fertilizer, the price is for food. Ething is more expensive when gas is more expensive. In four months, he now has four months for those prices to come down Will they come down? I don't know? Well, the price at the pump has come down a little bit, but the other prices are going to be baked in for the next at least, I would think, eighteen months, because everything's gone up, plus there's inflation at four and a half percent. Even though he says he doesn't care about inflationice pump Everything else is built in and yes, and it creates an effect and creates a a mood the is what everybody experiences. They see it. Sa like a man who I don't think goes to the grocery store very much. I bet you go to the fancy grocery store in Iagana, you go to Citerella and pick out nice fresh fish. But I bet your wife doesn actual grosste. Actually, that's completely not true. Really? Yeah, I go to the IGA and I go all of How much is a pint of milk? a whole pint of organic milk, or not a pint of What are those threeree thirty nine thirty nine, that's unbelievably cheap. You're not buying organic. No, of course, I'm not buying organic milk. You're buying organic milk. No. You've got children. But you should be buying organic milk. You don't want you don't want antibiotics and hormones in the milk I can't believe you don't have organic God. You're so privileged What organic eggs and organic milk. This isenzo ultimate. This isenzo C can't believe you pay so little for your milk. That's impressive organic. You don't go to the grocery store. I do go to the grocery store. I go to Instacart. That's anon This is. This is totally not true. This is This is appalling. You don't. And I'm sure you have when was the last meal you cook Oh I cook all the time. Oh, you don't cook all the time. I do. and I I into your house. you bring it in. Sometimes I you know I just we're a month of cooking o We're now down to I cook all the time Sometimes I cook Okay. All right, I do occasionally cook. I do occasionally cook. Okay, well, I cook every day. . Not a single day passes. All right. so Iran's winning the Battle of Hormuz. Donald Trump is losing your imagination at the moment. I think it's fair to say Um digging in on It's a it's a catastrophe. I mean, he's literally looking at a catastrophe in every in every Race, certainly in every poll but in also every swing race, this could go down the drain for him like literally on november third, which is four months from now Everything could change. Essentially, Donald Trump could go out of business. Well, and he could have a historic loss, right? Well that's like me. Right, The biggest loss ever bigiggest loss ever peopleople love the loss. Yeah No, I mean, it is It is the end of as a matter of fact, you know, I've started to write this Um this substack littleittle substpect digression column or whate whatever we call them called downfall which is because I think that is very clearly what we are seeing in almost every aspect of this H mind, his body his policies and his popularity. So So it's an emergency for him What do you do? What do you do if you're Donald Trump and you are looking the end of everything you theoretically have achieved. And the Supreme Court has refused to side with him on Egene Carroll. so he's now officially a sex abuser. So we have a sex abuser in The White House So The midtermss four months away U what he has now doubled down on. I mean, he's not doubled down on any change in direction of his policies he's not suddenly becoming a kinder Donald Trump One thing you can say for Donald Trump is that a focus group is not at all times running in his head As it is as it is for so many Democrats So he's looking at this. I can still win this. I can still ek out a victory here if I screw around with the election rules That is now also what he's become singularly focused on, obsessed about So in so obsessed that basically he stopped the work of the United States Congress because it won't pass the law that he wants this save Bill the sa S Yeah, whatever. which in effect creates a whole new series of hurdles to vote, which would theoretically, not necessarily by the way, but theoretically public inv vote Right Congress isn't going to pass this and they keep telling them, we can't pass this because we don't have the votes to pass this Never mind, stop everything You have to do this. a pass get rid of the filibuster then. No, no. We're never going to get rid of the filibuster, mister President It doesn't matter Obsessed, obsessed, you know, in again demented kind of way. Right. veryery fixed on it. And of course it worked for him before when he Um denied the results of twenty twenty. I mean, it worked for him as a kind of rallying cry for all his people and everybody fell into line when he got reelected. I mean it's astonishing the people, especially well, obviously the Republicans who at the time said, you didn't win, sir. you lost the election, sir, who then circled back and said You won the elections. there of course, you were cheated out of it. I mean, it's astonishing how many people with Ivy League educations probably You know, people that should have known better pretend that he actually won twenty Yeah, no, and that, you know, that was a curious thing because I actually I was I was had begun writing book about the election then and was kind of on the scene talking about that was actually a rich moment because was this landslide? Yeah, because all of, you know, a lot of the Trump people who were out of jobs you know, suddenly were word talking and literally at that moment, january sixth happened Um And it was, I mean, the election happened. and Ebody. The whole Trump White House was like, okay, we don't want any part of this of this denial. And then the crazies Rudy Giuliani came in and then january sixth that happened. And then you just thought there was just that absolute moment when you thought this is over. couldould it not be anything but over. Every Republican leader in the Senate you know, shaking their heads Well and some of them have been truly frightened By what happened on January What? Almost immediately thereafter, was three days after january sixth White House said let's Okay, seemems bad. Let's put a poll in the field o let's put a poll in the field And they put a poll in the field, I think X number of days, eight, nine days later, the poll came back showing over yet an overwhelming pular support among Republicans for Donald Trump. and that almost immediately brought everybody, the general Republican leadership any Republican office holders into the fold. But why would people take notice of that when he'd just lost the election because he maintained that base with the Republican partarty. So it's not Democrats who are suddenly saying that. it's Republicans who understood at that point elemental thing. Donald Trump still controlled the Republican Party That has been, you know, that's this theme that you have to keep lookingoo at here The Republican Party itself has no control over the Republican Party. Right. It's Donald Trump who has that control. Well, and he appears to have control over the Supreme Court. Though at least there were two decisions this week that didn't go his way. One was the Mississippi mail in voting, which allowed people to still mail in votes on election dayay and count votes that arrived after election Day are something that he's pointed to in California and said, o, this points to fraud, even though no Republicans in California are saying it points to fraud. might point to a slightly sloppy election process, but not to fraud And then of course, the refusal to allow him to fire Lisa Cook on the board of the Fed, which he tried to do because largely she was in line with Jerome Powell, not wanting to reduce interest rates So he tried to elbow her out of there. And then of course, this decision They were not going to look at re adddressing the Egene Carrool case for five million dollars But the larger thing was a victory for him. which is basically He got the power, a vast expansion of power to fire almost anyone in the who works in the executive branch. So any agency that's controlled by the executive branch and Yes At least trraditionally Those agencies have had a And modicar have indicated level of independence. In other words, it wasn't easy to fire them. Now it is easy to fire them. Essentially, he's been given direct control Not They exempted this out direct control of the Fed direct control of all of these other agencies, which is one of the things from the beginning, from twenty seventeen. what he has wanted. This is this is remember Steve Bannon talking talking about the war on the administrative state. Y. This is what this is. He's just He can just now declare victory on the in the war on the administrative state, not victory in the war in Iran, but on administrative state. So which is I, you know, which is my belief that that's what the Supreme Court is is is doing is threading this needle that it is not for them, not not an issue of of constitutional law anymore It's an issue of what we We have to give Donald Trump what we can withhold from Donald Trump. what we have what feelty we owe to Donald Trump And and they're doing this in a very, very careful bases which is in itself corrupt And we're live from the living room as Doug eyes up the match they spread. He's reaching for the buuffalo wing. Perfect. Hang on, what's this? Oh, he's good for a can of Pepsi too. Incredible What a finish. sensational combination. Look at the delight on his face. There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better Match days deserve Pepsi. Food deserves Pepsi. Grab a pack of Pepsi Zero suugar for today's match It's poetry in motion. Right. Okay. well We woke up this morning to Moscow receiving more drones. They're not receiving more drones. they're being attacked by more drones. Okay ha to do is get more drones, but they don't have them Okay, so Mos Everybody everyverybody it turns out needs more drones. Okay, except Ukraine. Yes. Ukraine the supplier of drones to the world. Exactly. So and I'm not calling it the Ukraine anymore. It's just Ukraine very pleased with that development Um Ukraine's coming out on top at the moment Well, one of the interesting things I think you they certainly are. And one of the interesting things from the inside Trump's head view is that he picked wrong the wrong side I mean, which is kind of you know, another thing, you would think that he would be held to account for. Well, and againly ad fice. You're a loser. You pick the losing side and against all the advice of his advisors, you know, Lindsey Graham Well, Um How could even thenide? What is his obsession with Russia? Why does he want to be friended with Putin? I understand the strrongman thing, but none of this makes sense. Why would you as Georgia Maloney said, Why would you treat your allies like this Why are you sucking up to Putin and i? and not being more friendly to your allies. Why aren't you supporting Europe? He looks at a map And he sees Russia that's big Right All that layen all that layen Ukraine much smaller I'm gonna go with the big guy and I swear to God. That's what he is. This is the level of analysis urs here I mean, again, this kind of thing that no one know what we don't have to the to appreciate. how phenomenally stupid Donald Trump is. It's not just stupid. it's how phenomenally incurious, how phenomenally I't uninterested in any information, unable really to take in any information. Well, and also, especially historical information. there's no context for what he does. Well to say the very least. Okay,one would be resentful about about there having to be that context. So how does he What happens to Russia and Ukraine at this point I know that Europe is very anxious about Europe. that I can't tell you Oh, I thought you were going exix I thought But you know, I think we can I mean, the truth is that this is This is complicated. And everything in this war, which is you know, which is pretty interesting. I suppose it's like all boars, but this seems to happen in in a much speeded speeded up sense that there's an advantage and it's a technological advantage basically And then it exists until the other side compensates and comes to parody with that advantage. But they haven't got that yet. Russia is taking so long No. Well, they haven't. I mean, they have at several points during the this has been going on for four plus years and at several points they actually they actually have. I mean, this is, I mean The pattern of this war is is is Ukraine manages to come out cure an advantage and then Russia meets that advantage and then it goes into a stalemate until the Ukrainians come up with an additional advantage. So how long this goes on? I mean, I think the Ukraini that there that the Russians will are going to have to say, you know, okay, let's let's let's figure out a way out of this Almost a million Russians have been casualties of this war. So So it certainly does seem that at some point is in trouble. Now rememarkably he has not been in that much trouble. today still may not be in that much trouble. In the Trump narrative, it would have been so easy for him to have to have to have seen if we can see anything besides small on the map that the Ukrainians were that that this would be a It would have vastly redounded to his credit to have been on the side of the little guys. Well to and to have managed to bring about the peace deal, he promised he would bring on his first day in office but by backing the wrong No you remember in the And remember when Zelenssky shows up in the oval office, he says You know, he said, you know, you don't have any cards. You don't have the cards. And he said that on ts of. They had all the cards Still my favorite joke when he says that about the Iranians. you don't have any cards and they have the straight of fmoose. Such a good line. such not my line. I've found it somewhere, but it's a very good one. All right. So we're recording this on Tuesday morning And we've just got a news fllash that the Supreme Court have struck down Trump's executive order demanding end to birthright citizenship, something that's enshrined in the Constitution. and yet it's still a six three decision Um I mean don't I don't think that there was anyone who thought this would go in any other direction. No, no, I think that's right, but I'm still staggered that three justices dissented You know, there's these u who Gch Alito and I think Clarence Thomas, it must be Clarence Thomas. Alito and Thomas are a hundred percent cent notothing They're even further to the right of Trump, I think. Well well they're just they're consonspiracy theorists almost at this point. Yeah. ye. And they're I mean, they're old and they're racist and they're it's just they fly their flags It doesn't make a difference. So two people, you can just put them aside. they don't really count in in a kind of kind of logic you're asking for some logic here. Okay They don't count So Gorsit, I don't know what the I haven't read the Well, it's literally just come out so we're trying to Mars So I would say six to three in this in this context is is unanimous a recognition that that this was an absolutely lunous thing to bring. Absolutely ridiculous. And I don't think the Trump people thought this was anything else, but this is this is performance. like having performative Okay. Well, happily it's been struck down because how on earth would you enforce it It's utterly uninforceable. It's just it's It was never going happen. performative. Can we talk about the most attractive couple in politics, the Newsoms who are made to go to the White House, aren't they? I mean, his hair, her hair, they are Bravo type Brother the channel Fabulosity Yeah, you know, I was at the Oh Biden debate in um Atlanta I think it was in Atlanta. Yes. I certainly was there. Yes Um One of them only the one where Biden failed to answer and it caused the Yes. and start of all our problems. And that was I mean, that was kind of kind of extraordinary because you know, they did this, Biden did this debate and then after all of the surrogates come out on the floor. and And you wait for them and the Republicans came out and the Democrats didn't come out they had no idea to say Um, And then Finally They came out in a scrum around Newson I mean, he was, they were kind of all and What you saw and what you focused on was his hair. first thing he's very tall and the hair is kind of extraordinary. And you really said Okay. This is if if being the president of the United States is t least one factor is about what kind of hair you have then he might have a very good shot at this So what we heard last week from Gavin Newsom was that Trump has started investigations into him. This is politically motivated, obviously, according to Newsom. Yeah, I mean, I think it turns out that this investigation began almost a year ag something somewhat about a year ago in a U. S. attorney's office. now. obviously controls the Justice Department and has enormous sway with U. S. attorneys. but apparently So This may or may not be Trump directly Trump related Apparently there was a whistleblower involved and they started an investigation in the U. S. atttorney's office, I assume in California And this is to do with how Gavin Newsom raises money and it's basically pay for play That's the accusation that he receives U Yeah, no, I mean, there's a good Wall Street Journal article. Well Let me this is This is u an article by the editorial Bard of the Wall Street Journal, which is particularly tends to end this two almost always is a takes a Republican and conservative voice Um, Although not necessarily pro Trump voice, we should point out. They've been a robust opposition actually at the journal Both the news pages and it turns out the sometimes sometimes sometimes the the editorial page att any rate It says reads, for years, the governor has leveraged his power to get businesses to cough up cash for progressive causes Tw beneficiaries are nonprofits founded by his wife, Jennifer Siebel neverever a good look Mh The repepresentation project and the California Partners project She has collected more than one point nine million dollars in compensation from the former So So it's not only her organizations, but she's getting paid. The question is on what basis do you raise this this money. they call this tested payments.. And this may not be. you can probably argue, which they will certainly argue that this is not illegal at all It is though as the u This is politics. And so theoretically, it is the appearance of conflict we seek oid R. We may that that that may be in a old and discarded point of view, Donald Trump wiped it away. The appearances don't matter anymore but it also could mean? Gavin Newsom, who is the front rununner for the Democratic nomination in twenty twenty eight, not that he Not that he will remain the front runner, but certainly at this could be knocked out by something Well, it also says that he's raised I mean, the total amount he's raised since twenty eleven is three hundred fifty millionars according to the journal, has poured in since he became governor in twenty nineteen U That's a lotck, three hundred and fifty million.. Yeah, noheended payments. and they're legal but they're not seemly and And maybe they're not. I mean, obviously investigation has been obviously, there are some questions about the legality of O there's a mischievous whistle bllower and it's going to cause him damage These kinds of things and we should start to log these kinds of theseese kinds of things because ly relevant to twenty twenty eight. And what Gavin Newsom has done has leaned into the Trump way of handling it, which is to say they're coming after me. it's a witch hunt and make and putting it centre stage as opposed to putting it in the background and telling people not to worry about it So he's actually campaigning on this now? Yeah. fascinating and we will continue to. Yeah no. and I think that I mean, this is this is the kind of This kind of thing is actually a test of of your metedal for getting the nomination. Right. This is why In other words in order, Yes, in order to Be the person who should get the nomination then you see if you can survive this kind of stuff And do you think he's going to survive it? I think he's thriving on it? Yeah, and u there are the questions are Should he survive it? and then Will he survive U Should he survive it and will he survive it? All right you mentioned H as a candidate and we have a surprise for you T this man with all the hair. Long ago This ha. Come on. I would never in a million years have thought that this was your hair. I would never, I imagine that you would have very bushy hair Look at this, this is magnificent here. For those who aren't watching us, for those who are actually listening to this, what we have found is, I guess is this your high school year book? It is. It's Michael It's a picture of Michael a photo from his high school yearbook. in which his hair is magnificent. It's shiny, it's straight. It's curled in basically a bob just behind your ear And then there is a description of you can read the description Arguing a point with Mr. Kerner in English, Mike Wolf, Student cououncil Pident, you swap, student council Cncil presresident concerned with the problems of the school The cities, a serious student of history, philosophy, his dazzling rhetoric leading to victory in debates, discussions might Wolf introverted but serious and with fabulous hair That is election worthy hair. You could win elections on that hair on its own. I've seen that. You see, but that's the problem. elections. You have to be able to continue the hair until you are of age the elect We wouldould you should I get a hair piece for you? I would just like to see what it looks like. I mean, it's magnificent hair It actually for the first time made me think about what it's like losing your hair. was day of my life. It took a lot to keep that hair and, you know, you have to tend that hair. Yeah. this hair No ending. Did you actually make a decision to just shave it all some point I feel like ever since I've known you, you've not had any hair. No Right. Now I remember Scott Galloway saying it was a huge relief when he got rid of his hand What have ever known you with hair How old were you when you started getting bald I in my thirties So your kids cannot remember you with hair No fascinating. Anyway, this is this election where the. No wonder you were think'm handsome. Of course you're handsome. No wonder you were school president. You won the school presidency because of your hair. It's a really underestimated thing in politics Have we ever had a bod president? I Well, I mean, Eisenhower was not a guy with a lot of hair. They had some hair. That was a real comb It was a com over I mean and it was And television was less of a thing then. Yeah. Television was less of a thing Anyway, Gather Newson's got fabulous hair H his wife's got fabulous hair Behested payments are legal acccording to the Wall Street Journal And he says he's being investigated because Donald Trump has launched a witch hunt against him because he knows Gavin might win. You know who is Getting a surge of attention is Andy Bashir Andy Bashir is never going to be president. The man speaks in policy parags. I had a dinner with him last summer in the Hamptons, of course, where everybody shows up Democrats show up to raise money. I think some Republicans sure, but the Republicans stay in South Southampton, y. the Democrats this strictly Eastampton. Wayne Scott and Eastthampton and very much Sag. And he was, you know, I thought I was a you know, Eremely nice guy and extremely intelligent Governor of a red state all of this as dull as you could sibly be Right. I mean it was at this there were only a few people at this dinner, but everybody their eyes up Well, he's milk toast, isn't he? I mean, he's governor of Kentucky, so Red state, that's impressive that he's done that. But he doesn't have the charisma, I think, to be president in the age of social media and everything else. Well, a conversation that will continue. A bit of a stray there, poor old Andy Bashir qu a stray from our conversation. However We will be back and we'll be back on Thursday. We're not going away. andess Donald Trump launches a witch hunt into us He has the launch one into me Ohah have. Oh, I have Do you have an update on where you are with his wife Yes, but let's save that for little Okay so Thursday we'll be back. We'll talk about the update in Michael's case suing the First lady and If you have been, thank you for joining us. 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