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This episode of the Dan Lebazard Show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Was that the best moment of the tournament yesterday? Of all of the buzzer beaters. Uh that was the moment obviously with the greatest stakes. Uh I would say as well. Uh I was stunned that Duke lost that basketball game. The only time Duke trailed in that game before the end was being down two-nothing. And Connecticut was one for eighteen from three and shouldn't have gotten back into that game. But listen to how delirious UConn's radio announcers are when Braylon Mullins, uh the most unlikely of people to be doing this shot in this circumstance from nearly half court as Braylon Mullins goes off. Back to Saar. Now ahead to Caden Boozer and a steal. Mullins gets it. It's Caravan to Mullins long-range three. Oh ! Mullins delivers Bedlam Bedlam here I mean what does choking look like? Because I want to give credit to what UConn did. They clawed back into a game they shouldn't have gotten back into. They were down nineteen. They were down fifteen. They they were fortunate to be down only fifteen at the half, and Mullins is a name for all time now, correct? Like we're putting him in the pantheon as a name that introduced himself to America for all time because he did the thing that sports fans love the most, it's not just Duke losing. It's Duke choking. Uh what were your thoughts on that final sequence? Because I'm the guy I mean all the time who wants to celebrate the victor for uh the positive things? But this was the collapse of a bunch of Duke players who should be undefeated this season. I did not recognize Isaiah Evans. That's a great basketball player. Didn't recognize him in this basketball game. Falling down, just allowing fast break baskets because he was just completely invisible. How does Duke lose that basketball game other than breaking down mentally when all you have to do is make sure you break the trap. All you have to do is float the ball up in the air. Just throw it to the other side of the court . Hold it if you want to. Anything but that. Yeah, I think there's a couple of things at play. Number one is we see the variability of three-point shooting and how it has a massive, massive impact on the game. Three point shot defense. We tal k about this all the time. It's not your opponent percentage. Like all the numbers, all the studies have shown that for the most part, you don't impact their percentage. What you impact the most on the defensive end is their attempts. Are you taking the shot away? That's a good three point defense. But if you're saying we're gonna let them shoot and miss, you are living and dying with they're either going to make it or they're not, right? And so they're they shoot one for 18. We got this game under control. They start making shots, all of a sudden it exposes all the holes that were there all along. It just you were surviving off those missed shots. That's number one. Number two, I talked about this either last week or two weeks ago. You're watching children play basketball. How do they coach children ? Yeah, because children are out there who have never been in that position before. I was joking about it with Tony uh before the show today. Caden Boozer never saw this at Columbus. Like I'm sorry, like yeah, great player and a great pedigree and all that like I mean it's hard at every level of basketball. They've had to have gone under this example. Yes, but the but to a man's point. I know at Columbus they would they would, you know, run teams out of the building, but I I hear you and I'm sure John Shire said something in the huddle or at least I hope he did because it was a real coaching failure. Yeah. I I understand their kids and when they they play play whereed at high school, they're usually the bully team. But this is basketball 101. I to me, like I don't know. I think Shire's kind of skating. That was such a bad coaching mistake. Right. I like I I'm with you on if we want to put it on Shire, I'm I'm one hundred percent on board for that. I'm saying as far as the kid goes, it's not I don't think he made that decision because he's like, Oh, I've never seen a full court press before. Oh well, maybe this will work. I think it's like, oh shit, we're about to lose this lead . Like that's what he's a child, but he's like nineteen years old, eighteen years old. There's no part of this. You guys are like try trying to put like Luca Donja's level cool in a kid who's like we said. But it's not we're about to lose this game. It's I've got two guys streaking toward the basket for dunks. And you're sitting like you're playing a video game and sitting back in the calm of your of your recliner and hitting pause on the game to go get a beer before you you finish this game. That's not what's going on. Were they afraid to go to the l to the free throw line? I I don't I'm not saying like the decision was right. I'm saying that hey, maybe just maybe, under incredibly stressful circumstances, people sometimes lose their cool, especially when they've never been stressed Duke lost to Texas Tech first of the season by one point. They lost to North Carolina, a game that they were leading throughout that was not unlike this game where they lost at the buzzer because North Carolina made five threes in the last five minutes. A truly absurd game for Duke to lose. But Duke was and is the best team in this tournament. They should have been undefeated. You can like Arizona, you can like Michigan. Duke's the number one overall seed. They shouldn't have lost this season. They shouldn't have lost a basketball game this season. And they sure as hell shouldn't have lost that one. You cannot lose is the better team when the other team starts one for eighteen from three, and you're up 19 points. But Dan, that's what we love about March, right? It almost gets to a point where both teams are equal. UConn was a great team this year, also. They've been, I think I saw Hurley's been to the final four three the last four years like yeah he's an incredible coach they have an incredible program put together and that's just one of those games where all of a sudden the playing level was completely even and the the kid who made the shot as a freshman but look at the rest of their roster. Those are all veteran players. Guys are juniors and seniors. They hunt caravans uh jersey in the rafters. No, it's it's it's like th this is exactly what I'm talking about on the NBA level, albeit it's different. But the idea that, hey, when you have maybe not better talent, maybe not even equal talent, but close enough, but you got guys who have been there before, it makes a massive difference. Massive difference. You think Mullins made that shot because of been there before? No, he's a freshman. I said other than him. I think he made it because of Yeah. You you say other than him, but the guy who took the shot, that's a panic shot. Like they all that's a desperation shot. But they but they needed two. Like they he didn't have to shoot it from there and if he had airballed it we would have been like, What are you doing shooting it from? He said after the game that he thought it was to tie it. Yeah. Oh really? I mean the the clo that's funny, especially considering what we're talking about. Been there before. Because I was gonna give Dan Hurley all sorts of credit. But but like uh I s first of all I preface by saying other than the guy who made the shot, right? But also to get in a position to make that shot. The hady to make that comeback. They had to persevere under circumstances that were not ideal. On the opposite end, the th you don't think Duke recognizes like this lead was this and now it's this and now it's this and now, oh my God, it's a one-possess ion game. Like that creeps into the mentality of players, young players, inexperienced players, in a way that a veteran team would not have choked that away. I understand the theory of momentum and I understand how everything gets a little bit tight. Uh Duke's experience in close games this year is we lose them, like because they didn't have that many close games, and this one was a crusher in a way that you I was a big believer though in what I saw against St. John's because that was a Duke team that hadn't been in that kind of physical battle all season long. You could see it manifest on the court. Like seven minutes into that game, Duke realized, oh, we're gonna have to tap into something that we haven't had to all season. This team is dragging us into a rock fight. And I thought they grew so much from that. I was so impressed with Duke's ability to climb back into that game, take a punch, and keep rolling. And I thought that they would tap into that and they were displaying that for a very long time. For them to be undone by between the years stuff after that specific challenge from Patino and them boys, that was kind of surprising. And it makes me think that Dan Hurley is actually who like the internet thinks Tom Izzo is. Like Dan Hurley is that dude. Three three final fours in this era in five years crazy. He's a great coach. Like that's I don't think that's ever been up for question, right? Like I think what he's been able to do is a combination of a guy who's he's been around the block too , obviously. But also, man, you talk about this era. This era a lot of it is having older players. Like we are back to hey, give me older guys because they're not going to make the mistakes that younger guys do. And because of those mistakes that they make, we are able to capitalize, even when it's the youngest among us, who's taking that last shot. Did someone mention Saint John's ? Did you guys see what Patino re-signed for? Because he just got he just became the second highest coach in the highest paid coach in the Big East behind only Hurley signed through 2930. So he's going to be approaching 8 80 years old at the end of uh this next contract. Uh he he he's being paid a ton, he's made it all the way back. Bleh, he doesn't look a day over thirty. I'm fibula . This this music, why did we, you know, put this with vampires? Like why did we associate this song with vampires? It was a banger back in the day in Transylvania. I know, but you think like somebody's like, yeah, that's a good vampire song. It does give off. Like the guy that made it was like, I didn't make this for vampires, but now we've been overtaken by vampires. Well, why are you playing a guitar? Why are you playing a guitar instead of an organ? And Tony's like I'm visualizing what Tony was thinking this guy when he made it. It's true then. They used to do it on the guitar and then they switched to organ. I'm fibula . lying vampire wait a minute. Um That's exactly what he's got like a key organ . He's got the organ like a organ target. Guitar. Yes. But organ . Uh I wanna get answers to some of these questions. I don't know. Is who is the original vampire? Is it Bella Legosi? Is that the original movie vampire? No Sfer atu. No, it was me. Fibula. The Okay, look, I need to object to something that you just did there. And I thought it was funnier, okay, the first two times you introduced Fibula telling obvious lies as a callback, then you then telling us what I'm fibula, the Dracula, the vampire who doesn't tell the truth. I appreciate the context that you offer, but I found fibula Well I'll go back to my good friend George Carlin and tell him that Dan Lebaton doesn't think this is funny. Uh Jeremy, what is the answer to the question as to how this organ that Chris played with the air guitar became the sound that accompanies uh uh vampires into a room? Hey, that's a air kitar that he's playing right there, so it's perfectly fine. But B, this is a original composition by not Johann Santana, but Johann Sebastian Bach, and it was used in the nineteen thirty-one film Dracula. So it then became used throughout Gothic horror films for the foreseeable future, and that's why we associated it. Hello friends, hello listeners. I wanna talk to you about Chime, because Chime is changing the way people bank, and honestly, it just makes sense. This is fee-free, smarter banking built for regular people like you and me, not old school banks charging overdraft and monthly fees just for trying to get through the week. 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You thought we should go from Fib ula to Johan Santana in baseball. That that was where you Yeah, I can't fib with you. I wanted to talk about it. I think he's really funny. You should definitely not kick him out . Let's update our tournament here and get rid of all of these sweet sixteen losers that we have and Jeremy I don't know what I have to do in this arbitration hearing to get you to turn down the bad jokes by about ninety nine percent if I could get you have have you uh Arkansas a four seed lost to Arizona. That means this is now gone from our tournament. Brock Purdy looks like a youth pastor. Number eleven Texas is gone from the tournament, lost to Purdue uh barely. That means this is gone. Adam Silver looks like an Apple Watch charger . That one's gone. So many Adam Silvers, but that one's gone. Uh I'm looking at the final four right now , and uh there's only one remaining Adam Silver in our final four, and it's because Yukon won with that uh buzzer beater, otherwise, all of the Adam Sil vers uh would be gone. Uh so I want to keep updating our tournament here before we uh before we get to uh the final four here. Uh the amount of chalk in this tournament. For all of the talk of madness, it doesn't tend to be a whole lot of madness. Uh the the sweetest and the most surprising of runs would have to be considered Iowa , correct? Because uh because they were a nine seed and because they were lingering around there and they beat the one seed. Because these last two consecutive March Madness tournaments have been very chalky and a lot of people are saying NIL. I would remind you, we're not too far removed from a Final Four that had San Diego State, FAU, and Miami in it, with the one big dog in Kentu uh in Yukon winning the whole thing. And that was the NIL era. I do think that there is something to these programs navigating the NIL waters, having a couple seasons to learn from their mistakes and grow. And that's why you see the bigger uh the bigger programs with bigger budgets getting here. But I think two years and a single elimination tournament to start having high hot takes flying the way that they are, saying that the tournament's ruined, we're never gonna have Cinderella's, we're never gonna have a George Mason, Kent State. I also think that that's kind of ninja considering what the Final Four shirt from 2023 is objectively hilarious. Uh let's look at how Houston got eliminated the two-seed loss to Illinois, which scores an awful lot. Houston gone. Ed Malloy looks like the guy who brushes his teeth in the company bathroom. That hurts. Number four, Nebraska is also gone. This one's dead on. Bo Nicks looks like he's a quarterback on a CW teen drama about high school football. He does. St. John's is gone, even though uh Rick Patino lives forever. That means this is gone. Scott Hansen looks like an orthodontist. Number four, Alabama's gone. Lost to Michigan. Michigan looked pretty overwhelming this week. And uh what happened to Alabama? Paul Feinbaum looks like the Maitre D at a fancy restaurant. Michigan State is gone. Michigan State lost to Yukon . That means this is gone. Adam Silver looks like a pissed-off lighthouse. And number two, Iowa State lost its best player, so this was gone. Kurt Signetti looks like the uncle who comes to your house for Thanksgiving, and before even saying hello says your doorknobs loose. So that means we've got our tournament and I'm going to update uh what happened over the Elite Eight results in a second and tell you who it is that we have left. But I think I think all the ones that we have left, take a look at this list. I mean the green ones are the ones that are remaining. All pretty good and I think people are gonna hap are gonna be happy with what it is that our final four looks like. But let's get the sound, Chris. Can we get the sound? We played the Yukon announcers being excited by the call at the end of the game. This right here is the lament of the loser. Look how quickly Duke's announcers go to the rule book and infractions and wanting to make a very quick ruling on something that nobody cares about. Hey, look at those excited guys. One of them was on the court. UConn's not allowed to do that. Where are our free throws? Doubled it back for Saar. Needs to get rid of it. Does for Caden. Seven seconds. Try to throw it ahead. Deflected. Stolen by Connecticut. Two seconds. It's Mullins up top for the win . Oh, he hit it. With three tenths of a second to go. Falcai Smith ran off the bench . That should be a technical. But with three tenths of a second to go, Connecticut has the lead, 73 to 7 That wouldn't have been a technical if all the Yukon players had dropped their uh shorts at mid-court and mooned uh the entire Duke bench. I feel good. Top top for the win! Oh oh, we hit it. Oh we hit it. Oh we hit it. What an insight into Duke's mentality that is. This feels just like the opposite of do you believe in miracles? Top top for the win. Oh we hit it. Never has there been less emotion with a more emotional moment. Top top for the win, oh we hit it. He sounds surprised. Top top for the win, oh we hit it. He would have been less surprised if someone had reached over and thrown his penis into the sea. Oh he hit it . That should be a technical You can't that part is so good. He's pointing. He's definitely pointing right when he's that. That's my favorite part. Can you guys hear the difference in energy between the first sentence and the second sentence? And then as he's saying it out loud, he's like, oh, this is a dumb idea. Talk I Smith ran off the bench . That should be a technical. He's a fan, and then he goes back into broadcasting. He realizes the situation. I'm gonna explain something to you guys here that is uproariously funny about what the lament of the loser is. That was one of the greatest moments in the history of that sport, and the announcer met it with OE hit it. But a guy runs on the court, and that he met with a lot of enthusiasm. That's how you call what you just saw, not somebody who was a bench player running one foot onto the court? Dan, what you're hearing is the desperation of someone grasping at whatever lifeline they can. Just I just need to survive. I need one last little bit of hope. Dalachi Smith ran off the bench ! That should be a technical! He realized how pathetic he was in that moment. He's like, I need to bring it down a little bit. Exactly. Exactly. Can you imagine if they had called that in that situ ation . No . I can't even imagine it. I just want everyone, though, to fully absorb, okay? You just witnessed one of the greatest moments in the history of that tournament, and what you saw on the sideline is give them a parking ticket. They gotta Jaywalking. They got they gotta you gotta give them a we get a point there. What is he doing? What why is that guy? Why why is that guy happy over there? Look how unhapp y I am. And why is that guy on the court? It really showed restraint that only one Yukon player ran on the court and then immediately. I don't know if you guys saw what he did. He immediately then went to the sideline and held everyone else back when he was the only one in it that needed hell back and you know what that is savvy veteran move Malachi Smith Sr . Uh the thing about experience, I mean ob,viously this makes sense. What you're talking about makes sense. All of these kids are learning how to play basketball. I don't make them children. Camboozers not a child. They're not toddlers, but they are inexperienced and they are learning how to play basketball. But I remember toward the end with the San Antonio Spurs of Duncan, Ginobli and Parker, whenever they won it's because they were experienced. Whenever they lost, it's because they'd gotten old . Uh I don't believe that experience is what won Yukon that basketball game. Making threes at the end is what won Yukon that basketball game, and it's not because they have some great experience in coming back in basketball games. They got drowned in the Big East tournament by Patino in St. John's and there was no recovering from it. They the way they lost to Patino makes me not believe in that basketball team. I don't think they belong in the final four. I think the championship's gonna be played between Michigan and Arizona. That Michigan and Arizona are gonna play the championship, that that is a spectacular basketball game, and that's where it will be decided. And I don't actually mean that as a knock on UConn. They just lost me by the way that Petino did that to them. I think again, I I think the idea isn't that experience is a cure all for everything, but experience allows you to navigate rough waters. In the case of Yukon, the experience helped them. And we know that there's a certain level of execution that we can bring to the table, and obviously making shots is part of execution that allows them to have the belief to go ahead and win this. At the same time, a lack of experience can do the opposite. It can make you doubt yourself in those moments in those navigating those rough waters. Yukon's rough waters, they were down. Duke's rough waters, they were up, but that that up was shrinking. How do you respond in those moments? Those little mistakes that allow for those threes to get taken, not just made, but taken. That's what we're talking about here. And those margins, that's where experience comes up. It can never substitute talent. But if the talent is close enough, it can close that gap. Do you know how weird it is and improbable it is statistically to be the lesser team, go one for eighteen to start your game and end up in the Final Four? Go one for eighteen from three to start a game, get down ninete en to a Duke basketball team. Are are we not in agreement that the Duke basketball team put together the season that deserved the overall number one seed. Uh they lost three times all season. All of them all they lost by a combined four points this season. Otherwise they're undefeated. They a a combined it was is it is it Jeremy, is it even four? Did North Carolina also beat them by one? Did did they I just know they're your new Los Angeles Rams. I will tell you as soon as I see the schedule. I this is this is the deal, Dan. It's this is someone said it before the show. I can't remember who they're like that's why they play the games, man. You can have it's a the the Patriots were the most amazing, oh my god, and they had a book already written. They already wrote the book. That's how good those guys were. They lost by three to UNC. Right? And then here come the Giants, who are a wild card. Does that make sense? It doesn't. But guess what? That's why we play the games, man. Sports. This is why we're here. Great. Right? Like this is why we have jobs. Because shit like that happens. Folks, listen up. DraftKings Sportsbook, the number one sports book for live betting, is built for March. The tournament is unpredictable, but the rewards are guaranteed. And DraftKings is delivering some of the most generous rewards in the market. New to DraftKings, bet just five dollars and get two hundred dollars in bonus bets instantly. 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In the case of my lifetime , I'm trying to think of something that brings sports fans more joy, not than Duke losing, which is very high on the list, but Duke specifically choking, Duke being laughed at. Duke being at the end dumb. The smart school, the school that thinks it's smarter than you, the Harvard of sports being dumb at the end. You didn't get a lot of chances to do this to Sheshewsky. There weren't there weren't a lot of there were opportunities to laugh at them because they lost. There weren't a lot of opportunities to laugh at them because they disintegrated because i i'm gonna say it again the only other time yukon led in that game was two to nothing it's it's just a little weird for like yukon to be the benefac tor. Because it like this decade I'd probably be more sick of seeing Yukon, right? I'd have more Yukon fatigue than Duke fatigue. And and Hurley is definitely a polarizing figure. He's way more annoying to like the average sports fan than anybody on Duke. Duke was missing the secret sauce, although they have it with their head coach. John Shire was pretty annoying as a player. Let me just throw that one out there. Pretty pretty annoying. We did miss an incredible coach ing matchup, I think, because it was during the weekend. We had Mick Cronin versus Dan Hurley in a coach off of like who could get redder. It was incredible. I was watching, I was like, this is great. Let me go ahead and update the Elite Eight results because we've lost some uh some teams that hurt. Uh the moment that Purdue left that means that this also left. Jonathan Zaslo looks like he says, uh oh, spaghetti o when he sees someone pulled over. Zaslow is skiing. I am told that we will be sent videos of some sort from his skiing escapades. Uh but that means Arizona remains in the tournament, and thankfully Jonathan Zazlow remains in the tournament. Jonathan Zazlow looks like an off-duty mime . Ha ha on a smoke break. You can argue that Arizona's been a better team than Duke has, realistically, Dan. Yeah, Arizona's great. Arizona's 34 and 2. They lost to Texas Tech in overtime, lost to Kansas. Like they're one of the bet the great teams. We're not talking about them. Uh I I mean they are a one seed and they could have been the over all well number one seed and I wouldn't have objected. I was a nine, I was gone, that means this is gone. Mike McDaniel looks like the barista who asks if you've ever tried journaling while making your oat milk latte . It's a good one. Good run. Little too detaily. Good run for that one. Amin doesn't like that one. Illinois. This this one's accurate, so Illinois gone. Tony Realli looks like the overze alous owner of an Italian restaurant who always greets you at the door with a my favorite couple when you walk in. I misspoke. So that advances. That's in the final four, buddy. Tennessee is gone. That means this will not be participating in the final four. Pete Alonso looks like a police officer who, even when he's not working, still asks, what's your twenty when waiting for you to arrive ? Michigan deserves to advance . Over the last few years, Michigan is the only team I've seen having seven footers set screens for seven footers. Michigan advances, that means this advances. Michael Smith looks like the high school teacher that motivates his students by sitting in a chair backwards. 100%. I think that's who he is, by the way. Like the Tony Allian one. How do you feel about Duke being eliminated and therefore this being eliminated? Fernando Mendoza looks like the cashier in a 1960s McDow That's a good one, man. The hairy arms there and the watch are really good. Uh Yukon advances. That means that Adam Silver has only one tournament team this year getting to the final four. Adam Silver looks like a newly opened chapstick. So, I mean, uh, there have only been two schools to uh be eliminated from the NCAA tournament in three straight years after holding a substantive halftime lead in all of the game, six plus points being considered substantive. It's not a lot of points, but it's uh John Shiers Duke team the last three years and Bruce Pearl's Auburn team twenty twenty-three through twenty twenty-five. Uh there is something Mike was mentioning, and he doesn't have this wrong. He's mentioning that UConn has been more relevant over the last year, but Duke is grandfathered in on hatred uh literally from your grandfather several generations. I get that, but it's Yukon. Like they're the they're they're great too. They're they're the ones that I'm sick of seeing. I w I actually really like this Duke team. And I was kind of like I know they got Miami guys too. That's part of it. They're missing a little secret sauce, which is also part of it. But I really love the way that they played, especially throughout this tournament. They got a really difficult draw. They were going through like all these henchmen, these big bad bosses at these levels that you would like to see a team like that conquer. Izzo, Pat ino, and they were gonna smite Dan Hurley, and they fell short there. And again, I think Shires like that's the first time that I'm like, ooh, like that's where you miss Coach K. They're recruiting at a very high level, but I just had a very difficult time wrapping my head around. Like a Coach K team makes that very same mista ke. I couldn't see it. My abuelo didn't care for Duke. At all. Like he didn't . He's like, Why are you playing why do you play baseball? And I was like, No, I'm not that good. But your abuelo probably cared about Michael Jordan because he transcends all of basketball. And now he's suddenly very available in interviews. Like NASCAR, he's on uh ESPN's wonderful Sunday morning show, uh, the the show that is from another time, a magazine uh type of show, ESPN Sunday morning. The gear head was just destroyed, Dan. I lost a lot of gears. Oh no, I saw it fall off your head. You turned around like you were gonna turn around dramatically to reveal that you were wearing the gear head. Can I can I say, Mike, you were trying to fit it over your headphones, over your baseball cap. Dude, you you were kind of playing with fire there, man. Oh geez. Yes, it's so many. The gear head uh was there are many pieces to the gear head. It was uh made lovingly by Mike Fuentes. Uh so now you're very excited because you get to talk about Michael Jordan. He is all of a sudden a lot more available than he was for interviews when he was losing uh all the time as the owner in Charlotte. Uh why don't you catch us up, Mike, on all games Well it's important to know that this gearhead segment is brought to you by Quervell for every lap. Keep it fun. Labels out. Labels out. There you go. Keep it Cuervo. Out of boy. So Martinsville, short track racing. Finally back on the NASCAR circuit. Denny Hamlin was bossing this race, as he usually does at Mortonsville. But Chase Elliott had other plans at the paperclip. Dan. A pit stop was where this race was won. They take a gamble, they get the short pit stop. Hendrick Motorsports on top for the first time all season. Was worried about them. I know that they they can't rely on the forty-eight car. So the number nine, the son of Bill from Dawsonville, Chase Elliott, takes a race at Martinsville. But for me, the main NASCAR story was what we saw at CBS Sunday morning because it's very rare when you get a Michael Jordan availability. It's only afforded to Peacock for several million dollars, or he sits down with Gail King because he loves talking about NASCAR. And this dude is a completely different guy around this sport. What I love so much about NASCAR and going to these races is how fan-friendly these events are. If you have pit access, garage access, the drivers are right there . And it's not hard to get. No no no no no. It's not hard to get. You can be on the you can be on the finish line like twenty minutes before the race and the drivers are all there. And you would think Michael Jordan would be inaccessible to even like a top tier He's not he's sitting right there. You can reach out and touch him if you want, and he doesn't seem to mind it. And I thought the the most interesting quote that he had, I know first Higg might do something with his like goat commentary saying there there's no such thing as a goat because everybody borrows from different generations. But I thought when he revealed he likes being around NASCAR he's got something to give to this sport, whereas when he's around the game of basketball, he doesn't like his own presence and how it affects the game. He's a myth. He's in many ways larger than the game itself. And that wears on him. he And's got this weird relationship with being around basketball, attending games. Whereas with NASCAR, it's something new, it's something fresh, it's challenging. It's not something that he can put the ball in his hands and be great. It's adversity for him