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The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael

Jessica St. Clair & June Diane Raphael

Casual Stories of Tragic Deaths

From We’re Still HereJun 24, 2026

Excerpt from The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael

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Road trips, beach days, last minute getaways, whatever's on the agenda, swing by your local store and find your new goat too Try it, style it, make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. it shows off Wock out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest crox store today Hi, I'm Jessica Saint Clair, and I'm June Diana Rayfield. And this is the deep dive. We're about to do what women have done for centuries. We're crowding around the fire with our generous haunches. We got babies hanging off our tits and we're gonna share with you our fears. That's right, our joys, our tips on how to stay alive. Now Jess, we are heeding a call No one has made. Not a soul, but you're invited to listen. Absolutely. becausecause we make one promise and one promise only. We will not Google a thing. 'cause frankly, we're too damn tired. Please get ready to go on The deep dive Talop of the morning to you, Jessica. should do a study of these episodes because we're doing them at eight fifteen AM, which seems Crazy But I want I would love for someone to do a study is what's the difference in the energy? I love it. I do too. I feel like we're not quite awake, so we're like almost in our subconscious brains a little bit more than we are. I think that's right. And also like I haven't taken my wild bututron yet. For example, did No not get that. It didn did. No, but it's not that you' also were raot dog in it Well, it's like some of our best deeper dives. I crack open the can in the very beginning and then by minute twenty I'm like giving a fucking speech like an Ava Peron like diatribe about something. Somet. Like about like full seat coverage in panties and like ye, well, I actually wouldn't mind getting back into that to be quiteet honest. Yeah, me too Be by the way, on off campus, not to bring it up again, but everybody be in full seat. I think you set that or was tight I think full seats back like I think that is back the better than ever Flaames full seat. And I have to tell you Not to get too into the nitty gritty, but U I think a lot of men someome that I know K of enjoy a full panty too. I think a lot of them were raised on seeing them in movies and TV shows So they were eroticized at a young age, like a big old wow, full on panty. Well, it's like an or or for a lot of men. I won't name name Some of the van in Santa Monica You know Wonder Woman. was a big imp. Now you got to think about they had Wonder Woman, they had Eron Gray from fromom Buck Rogers. Okaykay. now she was in a jumpsuit, but it sure as fuck wasn't wearing a thong Okay, and these were full seat women. These were full seat and high up Well, that has to be higher Now What I do like though, what I personally like is full seat Um H waist butt High cut on the side. Okay that works it's always gonna be high cut That's that's get in shape Girl, you gotta use it. Yeah. Now some of those were thongs because they were working out, but most of them were full Now. What's interesting and again none of our medication is kicked in yet. but What's interesting is what you're seeing on the beach Fogs And that's it I got to stop And that's different So what's interesting is they're full panty in the sheets, but thongong of the streets. Thong of the streets, which is odd as held. Someone you do that I.. You're totally right. mean Also, I'm just like there The trend ofven, it's not even the thong dress. I'm trying to explain what I'm seeing out there in the bathing suit bottom. It's actually like a whale Its it looks misshapen in a way It looks like it's AsCrack is swallowing it. Yes, it's neither here nor there. It's like And you have to have an ask now. Have I been doing a lot of glutes? Yeah. I think you could absolutely do it. I was like, Jessica. I've seen your ass. You actually could. I now notost post put Post putting my ass in my boobs, I probably could rock it, although I have to hide like a Frankenstein Yeah car. Well, I don't know. since your ass wents to your boobs and your boobs on to your ass or some other part E I don't everything like things are popping off And I do feel like you actually could rock that I'd actually be curious to see it I know, but I wouldn't. It would be to go to the pool and I've seen mothers, many mothers and no shame in that game, but many mothers are doing that as well at the pool. And it's wonderful. I hand. Now. I did want to tell you just enough why I had two things real quick First of all, after our conversation yesterday, which was of course, for you all last week, we're going to be in a bit of a time warp Um I have and I just have to confirm it today with another another little birdie friend of ours, just so you know There's an invite coming your way Oh thank Okay, so just, you know, so just like get Be prepared for that. There's an invite thing in your w. T live for Yeah. There's an invite my live It better not be I hope it day just don't just just fine. just I'm not going just know that there's an invite coming your way. That's number one Number two Oh, I got it Oh my talk justess. I'm working out and I'm not I'm not working out to even look better. I would to feel strong. and I'm going to pre bent injury and I'm gonna this that I'm No more lady weights than twenty pounds and minimum twenty in my glutes I hurt my back yesterday. Oh no. well, you're gonna have to be one of those weirdos that I see in this weightlifted class with the belts on ul wears a belt. he puts wakes up and puts that belt on. Now it's so funny because Yesterday, we had a deeper dive where we talked about I hesitate to bring this conversation into you know beyond the paywall because this is a private conversation, but we had a conversation about certain Les, we tell our partners. sometimes Some don. You know that the first pilot. pilot I was fired from called lies and the W. lies we tell them But like the joke never for getidle. The jokes are you straight men because we are the ones who have always been telling the lies and we never stop. Jessica, I remember seeing the announcement or something or maybe I'm sure I auditioned for it and didn't get it For lies and the wives we tell them to on NBC, And I just remember feeling so defeated as a woman. And then all the all the wives and I mean every single wife was fired. Well, of course, one of the wives I've never seen it too. Both wives never seen it. disisappeared into a cloud of dust. Yeah. That happens a lot. One had a long career. One moved to Texas. Well, they were told a a lie, which was that they had a job It broke them. Not me. I was like, I'm back Shit, this is whackable. We told this rich to go away. Jessica, that's half of our career. I mean yes, I there are ghosts I think about too. like, o, I tested against that person. They got the job. I didn't. Where are they Where are they now? Where are they Half of our success, more than half to seventy percent. taking it up staying around. Staying around. I' alive. here. St alive. Was fog? I'm still here. Yeah. I'm still still here. Yeah Fr Gypsy? No, not from Gypsy. That's from song What is that l No, that's I'm still here. That's not gypsy now it's def Oh, it's sign up because Lennon and I saw that with a with an audience full of gay men. Yeahheim. It's I've been something and also Sinatra, a popa or a pawn and a. I've been an act I sa of the adantagous theater just recently when I was here. I can't remember it But we're still here and that's been half of our more I really do believe Because it's scary to think of the women that I sat in those audition rooms black eyes with, you know, talk to I mean, there was one woman. I'll never forget I tested for a pilot I didn't get it, obviously. but There's three of us testing for this one role and she Amen and sat in the waiting room with me and fell asleep I was like And I did think and I never heard from her again, but I'm not surprised. I was like, she's a little too real. We're doing a network pilot test. Butker was napping. But we don't know The nervous we don't know what kind of horrors she has endured to get up to that point. Like her nervous system. Guys, this is inside baseball The way we used to be pitted against each other in like a gladiator style It was so humiliating. And there was a blonde, a redhe and a brunette. and there w O there was a white woman, an Asian woman and a black woman. That's right. And you wouldt you to go And you had you were forced to sit in a conference room together And then one by one, you would go into a gigantic office filled with people, mostly men and perform and hope Hope. chose you. And so often there were no jokes For the women So you had to try O a joke, add not e add of thin air. You were doing a sleight of hand Yes, but you know, I stille and it' this is what's so funny about life ks you and I went through a testing process together for in the Motherhood And we had ag we did evergrand old time. I showed up in Mccasins, you showed up with dirty tank top, a dirty tank top on. I was wearing crterars and mocins and you were wearing a dirty tank top We were not Prime time. Okay, we didn't look prime time. We went through that process together. Remember sitting outside ABC with you. Do you remember that? Disney? sitting outside in like some metal chairs having lunch together, you and I That was my fulous thans No it wasn't just we all you're kind to walk wards we walked to our cars. I remember walking to our cars, but this was like during the waiting period. I don't know what we were doing there for so long You and I sat outside on metal chairs and we talked about the fact that we were auditioning to play moms. We weren't moms yet. And we really connected and you seem so easy, breezy, like it didn't fucking matter if you got this or not like ' probably I was like you were like because I don't want to play my mom. Yeah, you like gotta w want to play mom anywwaysay I don't want to play. You said that over and over. So you're like, if I don't get it, it's great. If I get it, fine, but like And I was like, wow. Of course you did get it and I didn't. And just so you know that narrative of like, well Jessica gets the part. is literally from that moment forward. And what's so funny about life is like so a narrative can cement in your brain. because that one I really did think I was gonna get Of course I saw you in the show and I was like, Well, she should' have gotten it. I never should have even been up for this part. You can get an idea in your head and I was like, well, Jessica I'll never Never. be able to compete against that woman again. That is fucking so crazy. And by the way, but what's so funn funny But right now J these things in your head If if I can be vulnerable right now I'm kind of like Okay, I don't know. June, it seems like there's about three parts and June has them. I'm so happy for her. That's what's so fucked up about our our friendship is that like I couldn't be less I'm not jealous. It's a game of hungry hippo. Hungry hippo requires really no skill in terms of getting the the we're all using the same lever. okay? At this age in our career, if you have not been beaten to leaving the state, which we've all been in danger of. okay? If you're there, you're pretty fucking good at your job, okay? You're as good as the next. You're as good as next. So it's really just does your lever get that marble It is as simple as that It is because you're absolutely right. You get to a point and it's like everybody's great Everybody you' competing against. I mean, it is really wild that to be a part of a friend group where we are in competition for The same jobs, the same employment don't wish no, the way jealousy should work and I mean this. You should wish for that person. to not do well You should wish You should wish for her downfall. And I can have that but don't have it We just don't but but also I think the big reason we don't. because we do other things, we cast each other in our own stuff, we are also creating projects And we are also employers I guess so. But it's more than that because It is more than that. It is more It it be more than that. But I'm just saying we don't put every single we have. Oh yes, I agree There's it's not just If it's someone, okay if it's and this is actually a wider message for the community, okay If we are putting our eggs in someone else's basket, they are bound to get broken every so often. And so the any way you can pull back the power because you're right. If we had only have our eggs in other people's baskets, I do believe we would have been mentally crushed by now. I don't think anybody you kidding just absolutely. If I didn't have the deep dive to go to, if I didn't have, but the thing that I really really Treasure is being able to be honest Always write Casey and I'll say Oh my Godd, lift me out vibrationally. You got it. What crystal you got going for me? And she'll be like, it's in the mail, you know, Or I say to you like What am I doing Should I be a redhead? You know, I haven't let go of that everyvery part that I've auditioned for lately, and they are all wrong for me Mrs. Olson from the littleittle house in the prairie Rebit 's like I let me think about it. I don't want to dismiss Casey. I am gonna to think about it. Casey thought Casey well I've let so every single one of them has gone to a spicy redhead. No, they've all been like from Blue bloods. they've all been. But I texted that to Casey and she honestly thought it was grounds to like maybe have me committed. That was out of all the things I said, that was you are. I mean actually, hold on. I'm gonna say, I'm to speak to this We have to take a very quick break and we'll be We're going to be right back because I have something to say about this is so important. Okay. We'll be right back. twenty twenty six, are your blind still from two thousand six Three Day Blinds is here to help you upgrade. They are the leading manufacturer of high quality custom window treatments in the US. 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And I love that I can assign colors for different people so I can immediately see what's mine versus what's going on with everyone else Families are better when they're working together. Right now, Skylight is offering our listeners thirty dollars off their fifteen inch calendars by going to mykylight dot com slash deep dive. Go to myskylight dot com slash deep dive for thirty dollars off your fifteen inch calendar. That's mY S KY L I G HT dot com slash deep dive. It's so interesting, Jessica that you would consider that because and I know why Casey had that reaction You are a blonde It That's your identity. That's who you So to hear you say I'm thinking about going red It's like you might as well say I don't know. No, I think it would probably throw off like the entire pH of my body that I would get like saying like mys like like I'm moving to OI and I'm going to be a surrogate. Yeah I'm no longer wearing shoes. Like like I'm you know, I scavenge the land for food. L it is such an h. I'm a fregan. I'm a freeregan. like ye my like I was like at the event you're talking about Yeah, I'd be like, oh guys, I get my food from from the garbage now And you'd be like, what? Oh no. and everyone would be like, guys, we got to talk to like Jessica's having a mental breakdown Like if I what should I wanted to say is this though went in the motherhood, back in the motherhood You got that part, I didn't. I would then continue to test for network pilots and I will lose because I was a brunette at that time and I would lose Consistently. Tw blocks then I made the decision. Well, but then I made the decision I am getting down it's getting down to two and I lose over and over again a woman with blonde hair I'm going blonde And Casey went the opposite way Never forget Casey was light and went dark But now we all have different, we all have different roles were audition, things that. So all of that is to say. I do think as much as I don't think you should do it do believe that sometimes we have to make strategic business decisions for ourselves I I do feel like I started working more when I was when I went blonde. I and but but the blonde hair. works for you. That's the other thing is, I don't know What a red get You know who has it extensive. putut a wig on Let's see. Who of my friends? Wh of our friends My personal circle has an extensive wig collection to the point where Pul gets Well, yes, woman. Woman guy. Okaykay. But she's but let me give you one more detail to see if you can guess it. She's so psychotic about the wigs. There are wigs you can play with and I mean adults can play with. and then there are wigs in the plastic covering that she holds like a mink stole and you're not allowed to touch it. And if she puts it on, she puts it on you. This is, I wonder if you could guess it. And it comes in a trunk, like a Victorian style trunk Can give me one more piece of Give me one more Well I mean, a part of me is like Lenon, but then' like, it is Lenon. You have corses on it. Why did I even? you have courorses on it? Lennon belonged in like Vaudeville. Like Lennon is a different type of performer where it like You know, she should be carrying a trunk around at all times And honestly Lennon and Paul are cut from the same cloth because I remember when Paul and I first moved in together, I said, what's that box that's going in the garage And he goes, I mean, it was a giant storage box He said my wigs And I said, Okaykay, this is the man I'm going to marry He's the happiest when he's in a wig.'s a wig going on? He said, they're my character wigs. Yeah. Okay. You're right. And when I didn't know Lenonell, this made me laugh. I should have it's like when people show you who they are the first time believe them Letenning gets a text from the theater. And God, we literally didn't know each other. and it said, this is in New York and it said Hey T hay bales. Got to go They are a fire hazard. And if you remember The other theater that got shut down almost burned down and that's why we had there was no egress I wasn't did that. That was before my time, but I heard. There was no exit. Had there been a fire, it would have all burned. And one of our friends God bless him started a fire in the back. In one of the funniest bits, it was it was a bit about a guy who was doing a one man show that was so off was falling apart. And at one point he had them start a controlled Flame in the in the lighting room, but it was hilarious, but that's actually one of the reasons it started to you don't get attention by the fire department. But anyway They were like, you got to move your hairbals. because she was doing a show. It wasn't It wasn't This was not Ane woman show where she played multiple characters. she decided to play one character that was like Areba McIntyre in which she sang a song Two Bruises One Tear, which was crazy and not appropriate for now, but the whole video was for tearing out a window pane that just had had rain pelting it anyway She was like This You you know how hard it was to get two hay bales from In New York City, do you know how hard that is? I won't do it. And I said, Lennon, they're saying it's a code violation. like you have to. And she's said, I'm not going to. And they can drag my body to jail. She was so indant And she gets angry so little. I've seen you. I can't imagine that. Once in my life. and then another time she went ham on a customer service person about something that they actually did deserve in a Nordstroms, but other than that, like I've not seen it, but the haybells pushed her over the edge And it was like, There are certain comedians for whom They have props and they have wigs And that's why I'm sayitting Paul and Lennon are very much so. I mean, Paul's doing a pitch right now and I just saw in the office. I'm like, oh why is there a cowboy hat Denim shirt and one of the And then I remembered, oh yeah, he's fitching that thing That's. There's there's there are certain people who, you know, performers Lily Tommins that way who work outside in. Beautiful. It's a beautiful process. I respect it so much There that's really important to them Well, we really never came on set on set on Grace and Frankie without full hair makeup wardrobe I love I expect that. That's old school. I respect it. It means that the pre rehearsal is not possible. That's tough. C't light block. can't light it. But that's I do respect that. The other thing that made me laugh is Lennon once when we first got to LA gotot an invite to a Halloween party And she win as Mondo. Do you remember who Mondo was in I believe it was Make It Work You Pject Runway. Yeah I don't remember Hondo. Mondo had like a very short black It was o gentleman, short black wig with with with bangs and then he wore like o yes. shorts and like knee socks. Yes It wasn't a costume party. She was the only one dressed, like Mondo but it was close enough This is just a deranged person. You know I'm dying and I'm dead, but she's very special and I have such respect for those types of artists, and I put Paul in the same category. I really need to It's a' from a different generation. I really respect it I do though want to just speak to what you were sharing vulnerably about fears about work and you know, it's And I bring up in the motherhood, which by the way Can you I find it so interesting if you were to look at our narrative as friends The show that really connected me to you, the start of it was something called in Yeah motherhood. Isn't that wild That that wild And then we would go on to actually you would star in the show. And I remember you were sitting on those giant chairs in the poster And a high chair, a giant high chair in the poster. And I then would guest star. I think I guest starred on one episode in my baby shower. We had about two lines I had know I was in a classroom dress. Were you? I was a preschool teacher that I think you and I got into a fight and then I was like uddled in the corner, shaking myself, Do you remember this? Yeah And then I got a note, I don't know if this is interesting to than anybody listening. And I got a note from the network that said she must never be in a ponytale Ever again I was like, what I think about it every time I put my hair up, of course, of course. What hurt the about that ponytail? You just never again, Jessica. That can't never again. Okay. Oh these things, these things we've been through. But what's interesting to me is then we spent a lunch in your trailer. Yeah, we and we've we have told this. And then we had that experience and you talked about having babies and that this wasn't real life. Again, you were functioning to me as somebody who was like A I lying? Yeah, I don't know. I look back. No I think you were so getting to me because I was so kind of like, wow, I'm I was excited to guest star and you were basically like, this isn't real Our lives start when we have children. This is all bullshit. L who cares about this? You got me on a weird, you don't I think I do. but I was so inspired that you were just like, this isn't it And now I'm like, this is it You got me on a moment. You didn't know yet that I was like could contain multitudes M, I got you on a certain day, but little did you know? How forative those stments were scaring me. I was like, got it Got it. I think I had a baby like very soon after. I mean, I guess after you, but ary. It's just so funny to think about but All of this is to say And we are who no one can know what the future holds. And we are in a moment where it's like if things have changed, they'll never go back to what it was. So how do we proceed ahead? What does that look like Grieving the past, that's gone. Okaykay? What do we do now and It is a big, it's really fucking unknown. And also And I got to say there's just he's got to play us out this episode with that song because when I watch hear that Yeah, and I God, I think we probably talked about this in the last episode. So this is a continuation. Consider this a part two By it. We are into the unown. We There's excitement to not knowing The second half is. There's sheer panic U there but I will say that so many people around me aret are reinventing themselves and it is an adolescence again U and what I spoke to Uncle Josh about this morning It could not do this alone. We I said to Dan the other day, I'm like, I have to tell you what, I do not know what is coming for us And I don't just mean like our careers. I mean, what will retirement look like? Yeah ure We don't have a model, right? It's like what the boomers were up to and are up to is not our reality. It will not be att this age, the boomers were kindind of living pretty high on the hog, even if they didn't have a lot of money, they were like O, we can own a house, we can our kids are in school. like We can kind of chill, you know, we are we're hustling for our bacon right now in a way that they never had to. I believe, because the economy was not falling apart. There's opportunity also in the wreckage because We are going to retire in an exciting way And but we could not do it without one another Well, that's why I think it's so important to be honest and vulnerable about what we're feeling so we can also lift each other up. And say, hey, we can help each other too I mean, I gota read I gotta read something that Uncle Josh sent me. Please. He says the shit to me all the time U at like eleven fifty four PM. Why is he still up By the way, we had a deep diver say when we were talking about lies that they tell their husbands that she lies about when she goes to sleep at night I bed times That was her fucking wild Okay, it says entitled Forever Friends. by Alicia Hagghorn That's her name. Alicia H Hckorn. Okay Best kind of people are the ones who come waltzing into your life and all of a sudden, you can't remember life without them. The kind of people who feel like sunshine in human form after days of endless rain. The kind of people who believe in you so much, it leaves you with little doubt within yourself The kind of people who love you for everything that you are, the kind of people who you could spend hours laughing and talking with, even though you saw them just yesterday kind of people who don't think you're weird because they're just as weird best kind of people are the ones who see straight through the blatant lie that is, I'm fine. pulls up a chair and gently asks How are we gonna get through this? the kind of people who you can sit with comfortably in silence Nothing awkward about it. the kind of people who make you feel good about yourself who make you believe in yourself who make your world a better place simply because they're in it Isn't that it? And he just wrote us, babies. And it is, I said every single line is I believe this. I feel this about you What a dll baby He is a ye. I mean, that's what I think whenever we're feeling isolated and alone and scared, the answer is always community It is always investing back into our community because we will We will be supported by it and they will support we will support others and that is the only way forward, especially in an industry as hard as ours you know, it is the only way and especially in The sandwich generation Couldn't be a less sexy term But we are for the first time, our generation is handling. Aing parents and young kids And we don't have a penny to rub together of excess So it's like and it's like for luckily our kids are younger, but for my friends who are looking at college, they're like College is so expensive. They're like, wait what? Like is this a joke? Is this a goddamn joke what you're asking us to handle And there' such release say as a group We don't know yet how we're going to do it Yeah Just get through it And on the other side, if we're all going to move to Portugal, then that's what we're going to do. L But we can together figure it out. You don't have to be afraid alone No, no, never, never. because everybody's got fears no matter where you are, no matter what you're doing, everybody's scared of the future Um It's also like there's this just this one go around so we've got to enjoy ourselves too Bigger boobs are better than we've already done that. Yeah, we've Every time you say around this rock, it's either you talking about how we should shamelessly flirt with as many people as we can, strangers, and then also that we should get bigger boobs. bothoth of which I think are true. By the way, one of the things I want to tell you, my sister and I, my sister came over last night with My brother in law and our neighbors, Justin and Amanda And we all watched the next playoff game and the kids are running it was so mad Oh, we just had laughs and laughed, but Yeah of course, you know, it's like when you're ont to something new for me, it's weightlifting telling everybody Oh God,. It's just like you, Jessica. I'm like, yeah, I can't be lift in twenty. I told Dan l ten pounds. When we started that journey, I said to Dan, this will become weightlifting, will become my entire personality. You will hear about it a hundred percent of the time all the time And so Of course my sister gave me a big hug, and I said, well, my back's a little sore and I'm able to lift Indiana She goes, Ohh, tell me about it. I said, Well, can't let you might well not lift if you're doing ten pounds it's not worth it. And she goes, I do eight to ten. I said, stop That's true, though. You're not the public the public service. You're not ready to go up. likeike don't don't do any, you know And so she said, well know, what's your program? I said, Well, Je just ask me about it. I did ask the interternet. I did ask, you know Gemini or whatever Google's thing is and She said, Okay, and I said I'll screen grab you what what was reported to me. And then I screen grabed it. sameame one I sent to you, and then I realized like I had made some responses to the AI, know were embarrassing ike nothing could be more embarrassing. What was it? What were that They're humiliating. This is what's so interesting. we talk about Lying to her husbands, I lied. lied. And so Danna wrote back and she wass like, well I thought your responses were actually pretty like civil. likeike you said, please. And I said, yeah, no, I talk very nicely. I said, but I was simply lying too What were you sayingough? I said I said I got my program In the first in the first iteration of it, it was like having me do twenty five minutes of cardio. and I wrote Back. I wrote back ple can you please actually cut the cardio Yeah Be I do that anyway.. Why? What do you Le? And she so. Why are you lying? too AI. And I said, Deanna I don't know. I have. I don't know why I lied to artificial intelligence But I did D I do that anyway. Like you were gonna do a forty five minutes. You were gonna do forty five minutes of weights plus thirty minutes of cardio. L what are you the rock? Wh by the way, apparently says just though like I just want weights. Like whyy did I have to lie? Why did I have to lie You know one of the best things I heard about the rock There was a makeup artist does who did a movie of his, and apparently they'll all be in the middle of the jungle And the call time is Five AM. And they got to get out of there before like the pumas come in. And He just won't show up for four hours becausecause he wakes up and if he decides his body needs like a heavy lifting day, he just goes and works out for three hours Wh everyone sits in the jungle waiting For him. It's so crazy. All really How do you know when your body needs that? L the rock Yeah In a lot of ways, it's like first of all, I don't condone this behavior at all, but the rock kind of knows is Rock his whole body if he doesn't have his body, we don't have the rock and we don't have abuster But that's crazy, but also like that is why you're hiring him to I was of like what are we gonna No, And she said, you know, honestly, like we don't get mad at the rock. We just know we're gonna to have to hope we don't get. It's al exciting for hours. Right, right, right. 'cause it's almost like it's not him. He's not making these decisions like his body is Yeah. You what is. But like no one was like to the rock, like Oh, you're skinny, like skinny, not muscular man named the Rock. Like let's make you a movie star. Nobody did that. No, you know. That how about Yeah who was about his muscles and it's about to become about ours as well. you know, But I I have also given over AI listen, they can they tell you lies about What's true. What's possible? And I said to them You know, create seeven day menu in the style of barefot contontessa and you know, Giata de Lurente say, I can I only have thirty minutes. T pans Like you set them like these impossible standards And then they deliver it to you and they're like, and here's your grocery list. And then like, do you want to do you want us to set up your mizon place What you could do, here's how you prep it on Sundays. I'm like, great, I prep. No I don't. I've already said we don't prep. Okay. it's been our that's our main identity. But in that moment, I was like, I prep. yes I sir Do you want me to shit your prep? Yes And it's so funny because we're also teaching AI as we're doing this. and it's like maybe jokes on AI because we're lying I lied Would you like a Sunday prep list? Sure. I'm gonna life three pounds of chicken breasts. I'm gonna to fillet and put in a separate that I don't even know where the lid to any of my tupperware is. So like you think that's gonna happen. And so anyway, but the first day I was like, yeah, AI, what's for dinner? And I go look at the thing. It's like this, this is. I said even do the recipe Well, the recipe was Totally off. It's never good. It's not good. I serve it. BBbe and Dan are like H H. Does anybody have any w I have to choke this down Like this is the worst meal ever. Dan was like, this is what you'd get if like You're in the army and then they have to like like put dehydrated water into food. And I was like, o And I abandoned it So that's the thing. There's things, there's there's uses and I actually do, you know, even though I lied, I do like the program that was, you know, programed to me. Yeah. but But, um It's just strange. It's like I can't even be talk about I can't be honest with myself. It's like, I can't be honest with this this Machine That has no humanity, that has no ability to judge. You know what I mean? It's like, that's fucking weird Oh my Godd. Now Jessica, I told you the story about Dippitty Doo, right U Which one was that Dppy do? No. I don't think so. Chime in, Chime in If you've heard me tell the story of Dippity do Couldn't come home, I. No this is Dppy do. No, we haven't. Okay, what'sippy do? Okay. so Obviously a TikTok that I saw that Literally, I don't think I've ever laughed so hard. Now picture just a normal woman. L We're talking Midwestern Mom, normal normal. She gets on TikTok and she's like so She's like so Um I have to tell you guys, like I had a kind you know, a really upsetting year. My sister, she's like my sister passed away. She was Mentally disabled. he had been in this this home for a while and there were She it was very hard and I was one of her caretakers. and there were some strange circumstances around how she passed She wass like, so I had been in touch with law enforcement because they were doing some investigation. It turned out to be just fine. She wass like, but over the course of five months, I was in communication A woman had called me and said, you know, I want to talk to you about your sister's death. We are launching an investigation. My name is Dipety Dew. No, no, no, no, no No. And she goes, No, this is it real life I'm sorry Be because I'm sorry And she goes Dippidy D. and she said, What? She goes, Okay, and so now they're talking, We're gonna take a quick break. I have to have a little space to tell you the end of this. I have to have a little space to tell you the end. 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Explore the full Defender lineup at landrooverusa. com So if you just joined in, of course this woman had there was an investigation interest justister passing and ended up being fine, but they had to go through, you all this rigamor roll with the police who were investigating it She had been in a home And the female officer from the police department introduce yourself as Dippy do Now She's like I kind of integrated this pretty quickly. It's like someone's telling you their name is Dippy Doo. and they're also like in an authority position. like I don't I It's not appropriate to say like, oh my Godd, what are you talking about? That's cray. Right. And she's like, and she was so helpful and so kind and so thorough. I'm on the phone with her multiple times a week You know, And she she'd pick up and she'd say, hi Dy, you know, And this goes on and on and on Okay And she's like, and Bdy and I are Um talking through the details and then She goes, and then I get a call months in for my other sister who's like, is there any update? And she's like, No, they've been really thorough. There's this incredible woman officer Dbuty Dew, who's been she's like now I'm so used to it. And she goes my sister goes I'm sorry, what And she goes, I know her name's Tippety too. What are you talking about usual, but she's really kind. And she's like herer name is not Dippy Dew That's not What? And she's like, so then I start questioning and like, is it, you know, she goes, she's like, hold on, I'm a look her up online. They go online And they find a picture of her on the policeail like employee page U it, it says Beauty you. D E W She's like, o no. I've been rolling our tippies calling our dyail Sen ty She just thinks she's calling saying deputy Deputy like just like officer like You're not supposed to call them like Ron. L you're supposed to call them off' Ron. Eactly. She's like, so I've just been calling her Dipppy. No, no, no, no. And that's if that's not the story of a modern woman, she didn't even have time to go online to see is this true? But it's also to me the story of like when someone tells you something like you also like women don't want to make someone uncomfortable. It's like, okay, like I'm not gonna to make you feel like that's a bad name like you are to you string to question is Dippy Dooda Dippy A is Dippidy Dua Is it a phrase? lives on its own It's like there was a girl in Bbe's dance class named Penguin But we never questioned it crazy. It was a red head girl and they were like, penguin, can you pay attention? And I and the nanny we were like Okay, her name's penguin. I think it was penguin. Now that's not that crazy from our neck of the woods, you know Penguin Poor girl, sometimes parents do fucked up stuff like that Dppy with you. And the thing was Please, I'm not doing this woman justice. when I tell you a normal dress? Normal She's nice. That's mid. Normal nice run of the mill mom trying to like figure out if her sister was properly taken care of Like normal, normal. You know, the idea of this fucking normal ass woman on weekly calls Thank you so much.ity. thans is Stippity This a video do Oh, these are the lauaps and that's why the internet was invent. Those are the positive forces. Oh. I literally like was crying. I watched it two times. I had to put my phone down. I was howling. and kids were like, What's so funny? And I was like, I can't even speak I took me fucking out. That is So unexpected It was a It's a perfect comedic setup. It's unexpected I never know the way she starts it, you know, I was just like, where could this pop? Where is this normal ass woman going with that That's going to make me laugh all day. God they lifted me. So that you. No, I needed it too. and you know, I keep a running notes documents God. I keep a running notes document for the deep dive, which is like, oh, stuff I want to talk to you about That's so you would, by the way. I know you The top one was Dippety D and I kept on forgetting about it Oh C we share one more thing? lies No, we were talking we were talking about boomers Okay, deeperive guys, f, the deeper dive, it's there's something happening in there. This isn't a plug. I know every one of these influencers is like trying to get your business. I need you to be in there because it's And it's not just us. honestly, these people, these academy members are funnier than us We're just a mere container We were talking about talk about boomers. Please tell the story about the grip Yeah I wish I'd screenshot it They're we're talking about boomers talkal about mental illness, like it's not something they'll drop all about someone and you'll be like, oh, that was mentally ill and needed a diagnosis. Yeah, like how my dad was like, oh, we all had nicknames in South Philly. like and you know, there was like flipper finger Freddyie who was great at pinball and then around the room and out. And I said, who was around the room and out? And he said Well, he around the room and out had to go six times around any room before he exited. I said that dad, dad, that guy had severe debilitating OCD What that's aroundround the room and out. Around the room and out. That was his name That's so I don't. So then everybody chimes in. and I mean the chat was like almost

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