Space Exploration and Extraterrestrial Life

First it was an earthquake Then came an eclipse, and then Marjorie Taylor Green said, God is sending America strong signs to tell us to repent I don't really know about that because I think natural disasters are just natural disasters, but who am I don't know, it'speci to compare to my next guest. Bring him in Nilde Gras Tyson. He is a renowned astrophysicist, a best selling author, and the most beloved nerd in America. Thank you so much. Okay. I appreciate you So what comes next? Is it locust? Are we Is this in times when you have all of that? Well, Sicadas are coming There's going to be a trillionait' Cicadus icota tomato tomato.. I'm from Louisiana. I say Cicadas. I'll go with you. Cicadas are coming. Yeah. o. And that's this summer, like in the next few months. I have a podcast. We did a whole episode on this. We have a colleague of mine who's a specialist in just that form of invertebrate You know when I knew it was time to go home? When I would hear the cicadus? We would call them crickets. And I'm sure they're not crickets, but that're the same I know's cricket It's a cricket a cicadas. But we would hear you wouldd hear them for some reason, they would seem to get louder around dusk. I don't know why. Yeah. they're trying to find a mate. Is that what's happening? Yeah. That's what I'm told. Yeah But seriously, where are we now? Because we did have an earthquake in New York, which is rare. Rre at that magnitude. It was almost five.. It was four point seven in Jersey. I felt it. you know I saw everything shake shake and bake. And I checked with my colleagues at the American Museum of Natural History who specializeed in plate tectonics And based on circumstantial reporting, because the scale wasn't formalized until more recently than the information we have, the last earthquake of that magnitude in New York was one hundred fifty years ago. So it's one hundred fifty year event I thought that was always happening under the surface and we just didn't Oh, earthquakes happen all the time somewhere in the world. You should see the daily earthquake map. You just watch them happen and most of them are happening in the rings of fire. Yeah, and where the continental plates meet. So so it's just rarer forord New York because we're not in the ring of fire Yeah. But but it's a little unnerving when you all these buildings and you have all of these people and then all of a sudden the buildings start to shake and you look up and you know what I mean It didn't shake that badly. It didn't. But still, I felt it. I said, this it's not more than a five. And the scale is like exponential. Yeah. So if you have from five to six and six to seven, then stuff starts falling down. We were all on a Zoom call here for work and I said, wait, did you? Is this an earthquake? Are we in the middle of earthquake? Is your house or wherever you areh? And everyone said, yeah, I felt it. Yeah. So it's not you don't think these things are as our illustrious Cgresswoman says A sign from God, God is sending us signals that America needs to repent Earthquakes around the world all the time Especially up to level five. I mean, this is so if she knew more geology, maybe she wouldn't be saying that. That's a kind You're being kind. I'm try to being kind.. The less you know about science. Yeah, the more prone you are to ascribing things that happen to destiny or divine intervention or magic or something mysterious and As a scientist, our whole job in life, what we do, all we do is explore the natural world and come up with an understanding of how and why things are the way they are. And upon doing so, so many previously mysterious phenomenon Just fall by the wayside. It wasn't that long ago. You'd fall to the ground writhing and frothing and you go back you know a couple hundred years. Oh, that is exactly what you think would happen if the devil occupies your body. Instead of you just having a seizge. But you don't know that yet So you go So what do you do? You go to the church. Well, you live in a small town. The church is not that far away. You go get the priest puts on the road, gets the holy water, come and how long does the seizure last ten to minutes to thirty minutes or so? Just the amount of time to go get the priest, bring him back, do the Holy water thing, and then the symptoms subside. Yeah. The priest is getting the devil out of your body until we learn something about the human brain. Now no one says that No educated community says that. They take you to a hospital and they have medicines for it. it reminds me of Ben Franklin He was the world's most famous scientist in his day. He's not remembered here as that. He's remembered as a founding father. He wrote a book, Eperimental Researches I Electricity. right? It's a thick book published early eighteen hundreds, okay He invents The lightning rod What's happening before that? In any city, what's the tallest structure Back then in any city. backack then, What was it building or a bridge or a tree? no? In any city Let's try that again. A church Christendom. A church. The steeple on the church. Yes, Yes, Okay. The church is the tallest structure in any city. What is the most susceptible to a lightning strike? The tallest structure. R. Okay. So lightning would be taken out churches left and right. And if you were the other church That wasn't taken out? Yeah. You had good argument for saying, God was on God. you you worshiping them the wrong way. What do you say? Are you making a statement about religion? No, what I'm saying is Ben Franklin then invents the lightning rod., Which does two things It dissipates charges right channels back into dissipates charges that build up under your structure that would otherwise be part of the lightning strike, and it sends them back into the air without the benefit of lightning So that makes you less susceptible to begin with And if the lightning strikes, it then directs all of the charges through a metal and not through your house. So Ben Franklin does this. And so churches are now no longer destroyed by lightning even if they are hit. and he's accused of heresy Sworting the will of God And I thought, if your understanding of God is someone who could be thwarted by this beer drinking hot dog eaten womanizing. I don't know if he ate hot dog. But today he would be eating hot dogs, right? He's a hot dog eaten guy So that's why we have science. It's why the world is less superstitious than it once was and that had backwards thinking from Marjorie Taylor Green. By the way, just reminded me to When I was a kid, we had a lightning rod on our house. start I put those on alms I don't should if the home is properly constructed. Yeah. Iven Iven't seen one. I'll have to check it out to see if I have a lightning rod in my house. But by the way, if your house is not the highest thing around, then it doesn'tless the lightning is gonna to hit somewhere else. Itesn't matter. We had a ten roof growing up. I think we needed a lightning rod. Oh, 'cause you were in the south. I was in the south. Tin roof. Oh my God. it was a m rain or something It was great That is really great How is your eclipse experience Re good R how so Not good but good That' right It's good and then it's good So We wereri I was bringing my whole podcast to film, Star Talk podcast And We were scheduled to go to Dallas and to Be in the cotton bowl The eclipse path went over the cotton bolt. Yeah. C can't get more convenient than that Their cut ball was was taken over, is that the right term by NOAA, National Oceanic and atmospheric Administration to do educational programming there Brilli And I was checking the weather in advance It started looking cloudy in Dallas. And then a friend of mine called me in Vermont, they said, Oh, Neil U if you're not doing anything for the eclipse which is the stupidest opening phrase. ever Okay? If you're not doing anything for the eclipse, come buy my place And then I real I was looking at the weather for Vermont relative to Texas And I said Okay Can I bring a dozen people my production staff? So this close friend of mine accommodated me and my production staff So it was great. It worked out. I' to listen to just real quick before we move on to talk about, don't want to talk about change in AI But we werere talking about these conspiracy theories, right scientists move forward Why do you think like take COVID, for example, Why did people come up with these conspiracy theories? What's this mistrust in science? Where did that come from O where is that coming from So we as a species or rememarkable pattern recognition We are so good at it that we Ididentify patterns even when there aren't patterns there That's how good we are We can fool ourselves into thinking there's a pattern. And as a result, and this is deep in us. it's deep So As a result If you see events like this event, this event and that event You have an urge to declare that there's some pattern there There's some purpose There's some connectivity We need to believe that even when it's not true and When you look at, when you look at conspiracy theories that have emerged. this is evidence of this urge that we have as human beings. So I have some compassion for them becausecause it's kind of not their fault which is good at pattern wking. It's kind of not their fault. It's kind whose fault is it Okay. so The fact that People can walk around declaring Earth is flat One declaring anything that's just You know, aliens are like walking among us The fact that they can declare that publicly, is evidence of two things that we live in a country with the Free speech And we live in a country with a failed educational system Both of those together Give us that result Now I want to keep the free speech part. That's what those. heard you saw me. I totally want to keep the free speech part. So so in education If you look at how science is taught There's a book. there's both face words, you memorize for the vocabulary part of the exam, you memorize, you know What is DNA What is a engine What is it chemical bond, you memorize all it A no time Are you taught Science is how and why it works. So you're left thinking science is the satchel of information that you're handed in this class, in this period, in this semester. And when you're done, you put it over here and you move on. all memorized so that you can pass the test. Yes, so you can pass the test If science weren't taught as a means of querying nature Science is the manifestation your curiosity Science is T Ring Methods and tools to address your curiosity And nowhere in a memorized test Curiosity manifest The mystery of the universe, which I will talk about. We you talk about the mystery of the universe, but let's get to some stuff before we get all mystical here And I appreciate where you're going with this But it feels like It feels like we are really beset, right with a lot of things. We talked about the Cicadas, cicadas or whatever. A lot of threats to our existence. Climate change. Oh, Chsicas are not a threat. they're saying's food for birds for a few months. All right. major you'll crunch on you can't not step on them. All right. A major earthquake, or what have you. All right. So listen, but I'm talking more climate change. AI, authoritarianism Elon Musk would say population collapse What existential threats? Yeah. What do you think is the biggest threat to humanity today So I' to give a cop out answer Had we to this conversation In nineteen twenty five. Okay, go back a hundred years. And you asked me, what do I think is the biggest threat? I would say Tuberculosis. I would say hunger say, I give a list of things Nothing on that list would make anybody's list today Nothing. So You ask what I fear most is that? We will discover So that in the next century, our list will be things that would be more terrifying than anything we could talk about today, but we have yet to discover them and think about what their actual dangers are. Okay That's what I we. O, judge, and that's not what I asked. I know it's not, but I that'ess my answer. I'm saying. So I said, what do you think is the biggest threat? Not what you fear most. Those are two different things Yes they are. but The biggest threat may be something we have yet to discover. and I want to be aware of that possibility Because we could list the threats today. It's a different list than existed fifty years ago, one hundred years ago, one hundred, fifty years. They're different lists. Yeah, but you you have said you have talked about AI, which you've called it a nail in the coffin because of the rise of auto because of the rise of deep fakes and so on. Why do you say it's a nail in the coffin? Do you really think AI is that dangerous And where is it on your l? Oh, yeah, I don't what coffin you're talkking. Did I say nail in the coffin? Yeah, you said it sounds like quote, Nail in the coffin. You said artificial intelligence. Okay nail in the coffin. Okay, but actually You don't have to read that becausecause I'm sitting right next to. No, I'm sitting. No, I want to make sure I can actually No, I wantan to make sure I have the quote. forget the quote. and I'm looking for quot is. I am here in person. No. I am about AI. But you just said, did I say that? And I wanted to get the reference to where you said it because I wanted accurate. Okay So it was something tweet you coming That That was you tweeted that. You said prophecy when AI perfect deep fakes of people blah blah blah bl, blah. And's when went on to say that And I said Nail one C? Yeah. I think he said nail Yeahah. Dep fakes believe that e fakes were already in news is faked bllah blah, blah. there is. Coping for the internet for the internet. Yeah. right now There is, I mean, who would have guessed this twenty years ago Right now, There's content on the internet that is true, man and content that is purposefully false, right I have, I think a good way to assess what is true and what is false. First, you check your bias at the door, look at sources,, look at verification of sources, make sure the sources are not just repeated multiple times. So you have ten different websites, but they all quoting the same information, the source of information The fact that there's ten websites doesn't make it ten times as true. So you have to buffer against all of this,. All right, Until now There are people who believed the fake news That's true Until now, people still do. Hold Okay until the near future There are people who believe fake news is true. Yes, the Democrats are eating babies in the basement of the pizza shop in Washington, DC. When AI becomes so good, at creating deep fakes Even the people who believe the fake news will no longer believe that the fake news is true. Right. becausecause the risk of this fake news being faked is so high The entire internet will lose its integrity and it will be buried under the weight of its own wow of its own falsities of its own and inability to check itself into Correct, correct. becausecause there are people just putting fake information on there because AI can do it Hey, I can do it like this F first it was a fake voice and a fake image, fake video and Someone sample two minutes of my voice And to say something sounded just like me. However I'm way more literate than what that person wrote to have AI speak. So I knew it wasn't me So so you might need other because all it was doing is sampling my voice, not my literacy, not my education level. Okay, but then what do we do then because most people this head of the interternet Tombstone The Internet. You think so? nineteen ninety two to twenty twenty six. It's the end of the internet. Then where does information and facts come from? Be Everyone books. Everyone Everyone' going back to books. Maybe Because everyone turns to the internet for information. You want information, you just put it a Google search or Hever timeline of knowledge, they will recover true value of an expert reallyally? I think that's my prediction Think about it Yeah, you don't fix your own plumbing, you hire a plumber who has that expertise.. You don't say why I have a conspiracy theory that the plumbers are trying to vvert. And I don't trust the plumber. They say they're an expert, but no, you hire the plumber. You hire someone to fix your car who's an expert at fixing your car. When we're going to tell you that humans are warming the planet catastrophically and it's going to flood the coastlines You're going say, oh, I don't choose not believe that because my political platform doesn't. I Excuse me. Excuse me, I found an internet site that says it's all. And so once all of that turnurned. . Rubbish. All you have are the experts. You know what it reminds me of when you were saying that. And one the things one of the things if you want to think Earth is hollow You just type Ho Earth Ho Earth. And it'll connect you to everyone else who thinks Earth is ho Right. And it'll give you a false sense that that's real. R. becausecause so many people because somebody community that believes it. community for everything. Crect. But and And Testimony My gosh, watch. watch What is that It's I could show you a bar chart. of why the product works on my commercial, but I'm not I'm going to Get a person to say This is the best product I've ever used, and you're gonna listen to that person and knock the bar chart So you're going by and there's a YouTube video and it says All the experts want you to think this I know the truth That is irresistible You're saying, oh my gosh, this person is looking out for me and these experts have their own and there's a whole Thousands of experts that don't know what they're talking about and this person does. That is so irresiable.s click bit And that will all go away once the deep fakes destroypt. Iope you're right about that. because AI will kill the internet I don't not AI People using AI in these nefarious ways k T twoo things. It reminds me of my grandmother and what older people used to say when they would say, Ch, I don't know what to believe. And that's what people are going to do. The other thing is, it sounds like you're saying free speech could be the collapse of Information or the internet? No, failed education system. failed, o That makes sense That makes sense because people also People have conspiracy theories about climate change. They don't believe that it's real. They believe the people who are telling them that it's not real. rather than what the bar chart says about the difference in climate. Yeah. And what all conspiracy theorists have in common is that there's some bit of information that's missing that the gap with what they presume is either information withheld from them or Gap it by saying that an establishment is lying to them And in that way, they continue to believe ver the hell they want. Right, sayay that again say it again. every conspiracy theory The anatomy of a conspiracy theory is there's a gap in the knowledge base between Here and there. And in order to bridge that gap, They have to do one of two things. They have to say They have the answer they're just not telling. orr whatever they're telling you, is false That way they get to believe whatever the hell they want doesn't there have to be an impetus someone who is saying who is triggering them to say, you know what That's not right. I'm right. or If you dig those people up, they will connect dots in ways that, as I said earlier is something very deeply within us. But coincidence deeply with. What does they say? coincidence not causality? Yeah, it turns out most coincidences are causity are causal. We just don't talk about them Okay, If you lean on a table and it collapses, you'll say, oh, coincidence is not causation That was a coincidence that was causation, right? Most things that happen in this world The coincidence is causal For most things Always remember that if there's something that's odd or different or not expected Then you have to dig a little deeper and ask. Is there it causal or is it just a coincident? And you know there are people who walk around the world Among us, you say there's no such thing as coincidences. This is There is Of course, statistically, Oh I'm sorry. you got a lot of stuff you gotta get through. No, no, I gott put this out here. Another chapter in this book., anotherother chapter is called Risk and reward. And you know what Our brain does not is not wired for thinking statistically about the world or probabilistically. It's just not And there's an entire industry that has risen up to exploit that fact and they're called casinos There' people betting in the roulette table seven. like multiple times. I say, why are you betting seven so many times? It's due. How do you know it's due? They show the previous roles and it's not there in the casino.. Okay? It's due. I said, No, it's not doue. Every role is independent of the other. They they can't wrap their head around this and You know the physics community? was invited to have its annual meeting, American Pysical Society. They annual meeting in Vegas after there was a hotel snflu in San Diego. They went to the MGM Grant back to the MGM Marina. Thousands of physicists the end of the week headlines Physicist in town, lowest casino take ever They've told to never be invited back to the city. It's not that we knew the angles on the bettingg, we just didn't bet because we knew better, right. Grant me one conspiracy theory. Grant me one right now I grant you one. sayay it. I grant you one conspiracy theory. I grant you. I grant you, I grant you one conspiracy theory. Okay, here it is, ready? Yeah. All right. I looked the sc Do you know where state lottery revenue goes? it's supposed to go to the ation Education system. Okay. So I looked at the education system, K through twelve. Yeah Nowhere is probability and statistics required in the curriculum. No, There's an elective as a senior, There's an AP class, but it is nowhere. because if it were No one would play the lottery and they wouldn't get the tax re. So I I should get rid of my I have a lottery thing on my cell phone. G rid of it. actuallyually I don't like to gamble I don't like to bet I just think it's it's, you know I'm just letting you know ' entire industries that are exploiting most people's ignorance. And it's been said but it's very harsh It says Motto is a tax on all the people who didn't do well in mathematics. Okay Okay When we were talking about this interview I said Neil, you're going to need notes because these are just topics that I want to cover, by the way. Okay. I just want to make sure that I get to these topics.. So can you settle it for us Can you settle this for us when it comes to climate change settle get the conspiracy theories what's real and what's not as it relates to climate change Humans are warming the planet catastrophically That's it. You hear what he' said? That's it. But but but I mean By the way, why do I know that? Yeah Be I read journals Climate scientists And I look at their conclusions. It's not because I've done the research. It's not the research the first handand research, I see what scientists are doing because I know what science is and how and why it works. If there were a couple of scientists that had a result that was not verified The press will jump all over it and say, Ohh, here's a new result. And that's no, no, no, science only becomes objectively true after it's been verified. And that's our checks and balances to prevent the bias of a scientist from working its way into their results. And we look at all these ways and then I see this and I say, o my gosh in multiple branches of science are all pointing to the same results here that the CO two in the atmosphere, which traps heat from the sun after it comes off the Earth's surface, is warming the planet We've had the warmest years ever in recent years. or there's an interesting little just this past year. This is an interesting little fact about the highest temperature. highighest temperature jump ever.ty. thirty eight degrees. Yeah. Yeah. It turns out that highest temperature jump. came about in part because The anti pollution campaign has been so successful Beuse you know what's happened. Right. When there's pollution in the air. These are the aerosols that can reflect sunlight back into space. Yeah. This is the one that we're talking about. This is a journalist in me march eighteenth twenty scientist at the Concordia Research Station in in East Antarctica Plateau documented a remarkable event. It was the highest day Experience, thirty eight point five degrees Celsius. Antarctica in Antarctica. That's crazy warm for Antarctica. Yeah. That's like melting warm temperatures. Do you realize if the ice sheets in Antarctica and the ice sheets in Greenland melted back into the ocean The sea levels will rise too the level of the Statue of Liberty's left elbow. Wow. flooding all coasts. By the way, and cities, the greatest cities in the world They're all on the waterer's edge. Yeah Historically. All right, so you've settled it the sence Weve I have said the science settled it. Well, I want you to say you settled it on this show. Can you grant it on this show that it' settle I grant me that. Tell you bless it. I'm communicating to you that the work of climate scientists their life's work has arrived at a conclusion that some people in this world are in denial That will not bode well for the future of civilization. Okay, well, let's talk about space S, let's talk about space, the final frontier The next frontier. The next frontier. That's what I to ask you. So So listen, it's in the hands of two people, really, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, right? And it's all privatized. Are you okay with that? Are you cool with it? Because it used to be it used to be NASA. Pause, pause P, you left out You left out Richard Bransson Okay, well, Richard Brains. Okay, and You left out NASA NASA is going to the moon with the Artemis mission. But isn't that in conjunction with these private folks. O occasion. Yeah, but not specifically not that mission specifically, but there Private enterprise, by the way, NASA has been engaged with private enterprise from the beginning from the beginning. The lamb that landed on the moon design and built. Here in Bet Page, Long Island We're recording this in New York City, Long Island, Beth Page, Grummin aerospace. Their people still walk proud down the street. Their aunt, their uncle worked on that project back in the Apollo era So, so the difference is it was all tax based. funded. So that's why the rocket didn't say Greominon say NASA NASA or USA. R. All right. The moment a private enterprise takes initiative, then they get to slap their own name on Yes, this should have been happening decades ago. You think that you're okay with it. You like that private enterprise I don't see any downside to it whatsoever. When you say by the way, by the way, the private enterprise, they're not leadeing the frontier Think about it. I remember seeing the headlines when Elon Musk took cargo to the space station. New frontier opens up in space. What's the future? What's Rowable NASA? Excuse me They took cargo to the space station which NAS had been doing for twenty years But now you offload it, the same way the post office does not have their own jets. You rent space in the belly of Delta airlines. let the commercial carrier do it. do it for cheaper and reliably and efficiently, you pick it up on the other side. This is a long tradition in this country. How long before there trips They're already trips. No but I mean for private citizens where're're already it's already happening. You got twenty million dollars? you can go. But you want to go Do you want to go to the moon? I mean, want to go to the Moon and Mars or or say I people say you want to go into space And I say pends what you mean by space. If you mean going up and down. which is what Bezos and Branton do.. To me, that's not space. The edge of space Not really. Well do you know how far that is? Okay. If Earth were a school room globe Beizos and Branson in their trips. go the thickness of two dimes above the surface of a school room glose I'm an astrophysicist. I can't call that space. I'm sorry That's then Elon Musk. He actually goes orbital. Okay. So these folks that go up and down, they get four minutes of weightlessness, Elon goes orbital You're weightless the entire time For however many orbits you want, orbit takes about an hour and a half You know how high up that is That's a centimeter above Earth's surface If Earth were the size of a schoolroom globe. So as an astrophysicist You want to put me in space, give me a destination Moon, Mars, and beyond. I don't want to boldly go where hundreds had gone before look at me like that. I always look that. I'm wondering how long before you think that happens where we are visiting other planets on a normal basis where the average person can do it. Well, the Artemis mission is attempting to Return to the moon We've already sent an uncrewed mission there. The next one is going to take a crew to the Mon, orbit, and come back. The third one, Artemis I, is going to go to the Moon and land and pitch tent and the South Pole. All evidence points that there might be repositories of water which is good because then you don't have to haul water And water if you separate the hydrogen and oxygen, Yeah That's rocket fuel at that point because when it comes back together, it's highly exothermic Right. So, so So that's in a couple of years and it's still expensive to go into space. Elon says he wants you know, colonies on M. I don't think that's going to happen as quickly as he thinks Because you need motivation to do it It's not that we can't or don't know how Somebody's got to write the check. Yeah. So the VC meeting with Elon, I want to go I want to go to Mars. And they say, how much will it cost? It may bebe a trillion dollars. Is it dangerous? Yes, Will people die? probablyably. What's the return on that investment? Well, there isn't really one. It's a five minute meeting. So the government willll do it. you know how we'll do it? You know how we'll go to Mars and say Or that has to China just has to leak a memo It doesn't have to be a true memo. Just leak a memo that they want to put military bases on Mars Oh we're on Mar. We're margin. Okay. this is my last question Last quest, we just began. No, believing last quest. No Okay. No. this is my last question to you. What are the odds you don't believe in odds, right probroability is a real thing. Okay, probability that there is another sort of solar system like ours, another planet like Earth, another living. beings similar to human beings on Eth I think Given the diversity of life on Earth in this one experiment that we know of And other than the branch in the tree of life known as the Great Apes that would include us and gorillas and chimpanzees We're very similar. to one another. We have all the same bones and muscles and this sort of thing That's a very narrow part of the entire tree of life to suggest And by the way, if anything could have happened to snip that branch in the tree of life and we'd have no apes at all Something there could have been a turn of events that could have taken us out. And so to suggest that on another planet Whatever life does is going have a humanoid Anything I think is unrealistic Being humanoid was so likely then it would have happened multiple times in the Tree of life. And it's happened only once So I think what's more likely is we'll find a planet that has bacteria We have bacteria on Eth for billions of years Billions of years, just bacteria, single celled life Single cell light wantan to bet on something, bet on single cell. What we have here is preciure. and uniqu what we call intelligent life. manifested by the G Apes and other big brained creatures may be unique because Earth is full of other Life forms it has none of that. What's to stop another? planet. from having a branch in its tree of life that looks nothing like us. but is supremely intelligent relative to us Their intelligence to us might make us look like to them Wormms to us are wee to them the audacity of us to say, let's search for other intelligent life in the universe That implies we're intelligent You know what happen? Alien will come and say, Oh, I heard there's interesting biodiversity on Earth they go to their travel catalogue. Let's go visit Earth. And they say, Oh, there's one species there. We hear they're dominant. They're called humans. Let's check them out Are they all the same same species? Anden they come down and say, wait a minute. They've drawn artificial lines in their continents and you can't cross unless you papers and people are killing one another because they worship different gods or no gods or they have different skin color. they sleep with different people. they have different col. They're harming one another Is that really what's happening down there on this planet? That looks so beautiful space What's going on So I think those aliens will rush back home Report that there's no sign of intelligent life You're amazing. Thank you so much. Notogrresss Tyson Thanks for watching the Don Lemmon Show Make sure you click on the image in the top right to subscribe to my channel and the thumbnail in the bottom right to watch more content from my show. And I'll see you next time