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From Alex Horne: Ham Ballads, Urban Foxes, and Wife-Swapping Over Dishwasher EthicsJun 8, 2026

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Check responsse is set upp required compatibility and availability varies eighteen plus Last time on the Harry Hill showhow Hello there, I'm Harry Hill and this is my show. It's the Harry Hill showhow Oh hi there. You know what? I was thinking today about love and how love songs are always about interactions between humans. And I was thinking, well, why couldn't you have a love song about, I don't know, something like Pan Mad dad I am in love with a hand You're salty. Y sweet I love you more every time we meet Oh, Hamine You're a double whammy. gonna tell my mammy that would you be wed You may be canned, but take my hand across the s And take me to bed. Sorry Why am I doing this Why didn't someone stop me? The guest is here, Daddy? Oh well Thanks, Gary. Yes. In that case we better welcome our guest Alex Horne. Is Alex Horn, Hi, Alex So hello Harry. Hi. I'm a big fan. Yeah. You like that song, N? I'll big fan of you, but I like the song. Yeah, I mean, it makes a good point, doesn't it When One of the lines was we meet again, was it? I think you say one of the lines was weak That's you being generorous? Was meet a pun or not was was Because I can see the words then. It's just MEAT. Were you tempted to put MEAT there? Every time we meet. Every time we meet, but how would I sell that as a different spelling Well, I could hold up the words We could cut round and see the words. Yeah. you write the words? It's a bit kind of breaking the fourth. which should don't really like to do on these. No, we'd like to sell it as it is. We do have all right ye. So this is mascot It's you know, Licky the Ariial show mascot, right? Yeah Ohy say hello to Alex Horne How they're looking Oh he's dicking at Yeah. Yeah He does like a little lick That's why he's called that's enough N. Thank you, Licki hold this button. Well that was obviously the It's the button then Dactivates him Sorry, Alex youe need a hand? Yeah, sure. Yeah, he's just bit. He's a big one,t? It's quite big, ye. Was it just pull? Yeah, just J pulling I if we get a little And here should go through that. Yeah. through that gap This Is he al? Yeah. he's just hitt me. I think so.'s that's probably good enough Yeah, he gets excitable. Do you have you don't have a mascot on that show, you dude Which show iss that Harry? You know, the Task Craft Master. What is it close? Task Bastard. No, no. what is it called? It's called Task Master. Taskas Tas Master. Taskmaster. Taskmaster. That's what Greg calls it. Yeah.. We don't have a mascot, but we did feature a mascot recently. There's a haveave you heard of Chesham United Harry Is that the one that David Shriigley did the mascot for? Sam Campbell did the mascot for it. It's my local football club. And it's a pig with a chess piece on its head Gess ham. Oh So I think you'd probably get on wellel. Chess ham, I see, yeah. Yeah. He's great Sam, isn't he? I must try and get him on. Not a fan O this. You're not a fan of his. No becausecause I just don't get it. Yeah, don't get the an. Yeah Does he put that? Is he Australian? Does he put that accent on I don't know I don't know. I wouldn't know. I was had a long car journey back with him from Cambridge once. O, I'm none the wiser. Right. What do you mean by a long car journey back from Cambridge? Do you mean a journey back from Cambridge? Yeah Yeah. There was a sertain amount of traffic as we approached the ring road Okay, now Alex, last time I saw you was when you was doing that sing along. Yeah. You came. Sing a thong. Sing How long a thong was what they called it? Yes. Thank you for helping No, so just that was you singing how long has this been going on for Was it twenty four hour? It wasant to be twenty four hours, but it wass twenty five and three quarter hours because of an admin error Right because channel four. Yeah. because that was that the boat, al right? Well, it's because they they didn't realize that the program started at one at nine o'clock and one night and ended at ten something on the next night Right. So there's an extra hour and a bit there where it matters when you're singing the same song for over a day. Yeah. so you were looking at your watch thinking of this is twenty four hours. Yeah, we were ready to stop. I remember I turned up there because I only turned up with the kind of last rites of it, didnn't they? Yeah F your holiday in Spain. Yeah, That's right. Yeah. I'd arrived home from Spain that morning And they said, Ohah, can you go over to Ambassady Power Station where he's in a shop window Alex Hornys with his band, the Horn section And then accompany him to a studio and I thought it was going to be TV centre. It' miles away out in You have to go on a Statford, I think. Yeah. Yeah have a boat and then a bus and so you handed us over to Lee Francis. Well, I said, look, I'll go and You know You got sort half an hour with me I've just come home from Spain. But I got there and it was just chaos, what you might call backstage. Were you aware of that? No. No, I was front stage Be it seemed to me like the whole crew had been on for twenty four hours as well. They had. Yeah, which just nuts. I get there and it's just like Ganola bars, wrappers everywhere. that crisp was off their faces on crisps and granola bars.' not chaos, Harry. You can't just say crisps and granola bars. Banas. That's it. Yeah. That's it. going. It was like all it was was the back of a window. It was like a tiny crampedot. and I walk in and they're all like acting like this iss normal. and I'm thinking what's What goinging on here Yeah Well, I guess the boots on the other foot then, because People might say that about your shows, Harry. Really? Yeah, I think so. If you were the normal one in this situation, that's quite good. Yeah. Yeah, I did feel like I was the normal one for once How do you feel about AI, Alex? AI. yeah, prettyt good Pretty good indeed? Yeah. Yeah, Okay good. It's cool wouldn't it? Yeah, it's great. U they do say that it's it's fine. They use a lot of water Yes Not hot water, cold water. my wife's got a problem with my washing up sort of system they quite have the run the tank running She fills it up Yeah. But I have it just trickling. I think overall, pretty about the same. You know what my wife does what you do And It's not it's not effective. A also just sitting there in the dirty water? Well Do you rinse? Do you rinse on the other one I mean, the water was very dirty. I would Swap it, empty and fill it up again. I think we married the wrong women. Yeah. Wife swap for a week? Yeah. Okay. but a test period of a weekk. Y pase. We'd probably be long enough, wouldn't it? You'd know at the end of that. Yeah. What other habits does she have that Rachel? What other habits that I'm not happy about? Yeah. And this is a safe space Well, she won't do the bins. Yeah, No yeah, well no, that's standard. Okay U we have to shower twice a day or Do she have first bath and then you have the the water? no. Yeah. Do makeag to give you second bath. Yeah. When she's at home, there's for. Do you top it up with extra hot Sometimes she does that It depends Howong between me You know, sometimes she might go up at nine and say, I'm going out for my bath In which case you'll run a fresh bath. Okay. Yeah. But then other times you might have a bath at the normal time, I think maybe agree half time. In that time, I've got involved in a BBC four documentary. Yeah Oen BBC It seemed to p look good stuff wasn't madeay tonight on BBC four. And so I will be engrossed and actually come back. And by the time I've gone back the water is tap it so then I will take it up on myself to top it up I would let out some obviously first. The last bit was I wasn't listening, I was trying to think of more bad qualities that my wife's got and I couldn't think of any. Yeah She doesn't spend things, doesn't buy things. Oh yeah, she does that. And yeah, she doesn't And we have to have holidays booked two years in advance. Yeah, we don't do that no. Okay. Yeah. I wish you did do that. I think we get along really well, me and Rachel What she do like Sheh be looking? She's pretty. Oh, Okay. Probably too young for me, isn't she? She's forty six. Okay. Soort ofs doable. Yeah, yeah, and that would look okay, wouldn't it? Yeah a red carpet? Well, you've been the same age Is p? Is she a red carpet sort of person Magda doesn't like going on the red carpet. Oh Rachel loves that. Yeah. Yeah ye. I mean these days I reallyre get invited to a red carpet. Sure. Of course. And there is this trend to different colored carpets. Yeah, Purple I've seen? I've seen purple. Okay, so we have got an AI boot called Sarah. I think you're familiar. You did say you'd watch two of these. I'm a big fan. Yeah of the Podcuff. Yeah. Let's welome her now, Sarah, come on out And There she is in all her glory. sayay hello to Alex Horne Hi, Alex. Good to see you. Big fan of Task Bustered. Got a bone to pick with you though. Okay. When I went to the Task Bustered holographic live experience in the east E of London, all I saw was four Swedish people in jumpsuits singing for ninety minutes. Gotta say I felt scammed out of me wits Is that still there? No, that's not still there that would say, ye ex leader Yeah What was it the task mustaster experience? It was a live experience, Harry. It was very good. But it was quite full on. We had a lot of, I think we had sixty actors Itact's the actor turnending to be you go hologram like. We should have gone hologram like. by the way, I'm sorry, because I have seen this before so I didn't react big to Licky or Sarah, but I'm really pleased to meet them both. That's nice, That's nice and she'll take that. I can hear her. She's taking that in and that may come out in her room. Sure. further room. She's looking for a fork shake. Oh, thank you, Sarah. She's looking for a fork shake.. It's lovely to have a fork shake with you, Sarah.. So listen, sir, have you got anything to say about Alex Horne? Sure thing. here goes Alexander James Jeffrey Horne is an English comedian and musician. Early life, Horne was born in Chichester, West Sussex, to a father who worked as a general practitioner of the middle child of three boys. Solid. Horne originally attended a private school. What he was embarrassed about. Don't be embarrassed little one. take any advantage you can. Okay listen Life give you big juicy melons, You tuck in, hollow out the flesh, gorge on it, then stuff the empty skin full of mud, and sell it to the poor. Then Himmer went up to Cambridge. Not another one. Did you know Phil Wang? He was a member of the F Cambridge and Hor done a degree in broadcast journalism at Goldsmiths, University of London much on it. Yeahre pretty much on it. I'm not a musician Apart from that, tick, tic tick. Are you not musician? No, I get mistaken for one quite often, but the band tell me off if I get accused of being one. Oh English comedian a musician. yeah Yeah. Oh right, yeah, because you you employ musicians, but you write songs, right? Yeah, I' guess even comedian. I mean, it's sort of I hang around with comedians and musicians. Yes, all right. o. So you were the son of a GP. Was there any still? O course. Yes. Is he still alive? Yeah Very much so, than you.' haveave you checked this morning? He's been retired for twenty two years, though. Iagn't that? Well, it's a great pension The NHS pension, ye. It was yeah. It's not as good as it was. No. Well a lot of my friends who I knew from back then died Yeah. They got huge fortunes in their pension pot. Yes. Have you got a private pension I don't know That's one thing Rachel will do P me. Okay, It' suspicious of her if you're not completely on. J justust think the money is. Th thinkink how pretty she is. Yeah. I've got an image of her now. Yeah with a big forty six. She's wearing a badge She'sarly forty seven, she wouldll have taken the badge off that by know. So and you went you obviously a smart kid, academic and all that. yeah. Yeah, I loved school really well. Oh you liked it? I did actually, yeah Yeah, yeah, well, I was the middle boy of so I had an older brother and a younger brother at school with me, which is quite easy Yeah, when I had an oldest sister and Younger sister and a younger brother and a younger sister at school, but that didn't really help me. I was a bit bored by it. It must have been a bad way of saying that. Three younger threeree younger siblings. That must be. Yeah. U Then you went up to Cambridge, So obviously, you're really smart. Okay What did you didid you know Phil Wang? No, I didn't know Phil Wang. I think I'm younger than Wang. Older, I think Wang is younger than me I didn't know Phil. All right, Who was that we might have heard of? Tim Key. Al Keysy. Mart Watson. But obviously Tim didn't go there becausecause he told that story on Graam Norton. He was like a New Y. was he? He was like a cookie. Yeah, then we lived together after that Okay, yeah. and he really involved in Taskmasters. He was he was in the initial series, yeah. and then he's put on credits his task consultant and he sometimes claims to do some work on the show. Oh, okay does do some work on the show. And then you went to gooldsmith. She said all this. Yes, I know, but I'm just, you know I suppose you could call it trying to flesh it out. Right It's all missed about the melons section Its all content. ye And you did broadcast So what is b what is a course in broadcast journalism So one year It was only one year. It a master's And we were the first group of people who had done that degree at Goldsmiths and every single one of us passed with a distinction was not quite ready yet at a degree. Right. So So I made a documentary about foxes being killed in the city You can call up people and they'll come and kill your fox for you. Right? hard hitting I did a little wasort like you weren't approving of it at all what No, I was quite sort of neutral, o As a documentarian. did a little piece about a member of Hot Chip And pianos that play themselves. Is it Alexis? No, it's Al. okay. Doyle, right? He was at Cambridge with me And that was enough to get a distinction J. Okay, and then they tightened it up afterwards, presumably. Presumably. Yeah. But I liked Goldsmith. Yeah. when was that? because that was when was it in its real like peak producing all those YBAs a bit later than that, I suppose. What's the YBA? You know, the young British artists Damian Hearst and so forth They were the goesmiths, wasn't it? Right. Well, I was after Vick and Bob were on that New Cross High street Oh the Amishher Moms. Yeah. so I was sort of in there I'm a big fan of them as well. ye. So I went there, but they weren't there anymore. No, they'd stopped, didnn't they? Yeah went I saw them early doors at the Albanyy Empire. Right I'd never seen them before. I went and saw them there. You don't bring Sarah into these chats do you? Sarah's got her has her moment. She has three normally three moments. Okay. But she's fine like that isnt she? She's fine. yeah. mean She is a machine Yes. and And they were they were sort of brilliant and terrible in equal measure, I would say. Right. And we came on with a big came on with the big constable the haywayne frame picture of that Iot what he was singing I'm in with the in crrowd or something. Yeah, and I think they threw out, they had a whole load of ladies gloves that they threw. And I kind of thought, o Yeah, this is great and then there be some like long sort there was more sort of performance art that was a bit sort of confusing, but yeah, I felt like the dial had moved Yes I watched something by Joe Kent Walla. Is that his name? today. Who? I don't know. comian because I don't know who is. Well, he's a new comedian, not that new,. I was he Frank? He was his Yeah. ye. And I thought maybe the daer moved with him. Yeah. I think he's really good. I need to go and see him. Yeah. I think you might like him. Everyone says that. yeah. He does a thing. was it a trowel? something with a trowel? W you get him Yeah, some with a trowel. Yeah should get him on But sometimes those guys who were sort of heavy character are a bit difficult to A they a bit difficult Here we are on we hurry. We You know, they don't they're sort of like Vic is a bit awkward as himself, I think. Yeah. Vic's ne never done Taskmaster nor have you. Have you asked him? Yeah Iike what reasons does he not? Well, I think Vick's gone with me now in his gym. Yeah I of the prices, right Right, Sarah, H you got anything further to add Hornen worked as a journalist for local newspapers in Sussex. Horne began his stand up comedy career at Open Might Nights while he was a student, and performed in the semif final of So You Think You're Funny in nineteen ninety nine. On the eighteenth of january two thousand seven, Horne became the first comedian to perform in secondcond lifeife for a feature on Sky New. saw that. accused of being a crap digger and spending all his hongs Since twenty ten Horn has been performing with his band The Horn Section There Was A the Horn Section Television Program, and a channel for series, The Horn Section TV Show. Horn appeared on Celebrity Mastermind His specialist subject was the comedian Ken Dog. Horn voiced a talking button in the BBC one's game showh the button. He'd done the chase the twice. He is a birdwer. A bird watcher, A birdwatcher Yeah, I'm a bit aird watcher. I'm not a bear watchatcher. A? My father, Hugh, the doctor is a bird watchatcher. I amm the son of a bird watchatcher. Oh I see, you're not a bird watchatcher. I'm a birw watchatch watch. I' wrad a book called Bird Watching Watching Right Oh you watch watch the bird watch Yeahah. I mean I do a bit of bird watching, but the other bird watchers don't like me because what I do is after I've watched the bird, I throw stones at it. Yeah. And Be I want to see them what they look like when they're anxious Th you're not a birdwatcher. I've sort of If you want it subliminally? I've been infected a little bit with it. What are you gonna to do? Well, it's that I've got bd, I thought, Oh, ye I'm a birwatcher. I'm aird watcher. you might want to identify. I'd love to. I've got a bird here Okay that is gonna just pop up. You might be able to hear it It's coming here is the Oh yeah. Yeah, no I can see it. Yeah, yeah. You know what What that is for? I do you know what that is I've never seen it. I've never heard it sound like that before Let's stop now. Yeah Any idea? Well, I think it's an anagram of my surname. I think it's a heron. it's just plastics. Okay, real bird. It's not a real bird They say no, you got it wrong, didn't he So I saw this thing you did on Sky News. That mad that you saw that? on YouTube? I didn't watch it live, obviously. I was gonna say What do you take me for? I didn't like it. Well, you were very young in it weren't you? When was that done It was two thousand seven. So you're very young. I mean, you look like you're nineteen or something I would' have been twenty nine. Yeah, c you've got brown, thick lush brown hair. Thanks, Aaric. And you have this character and I printed it off. This is the character that Gard. I mean, this was one night of my life when I was twenty nine. Yeah, which it' cast a long shadow. I don't remember anything about it. What was the character called? called well they accused, I think it was just Alex Hor,on you Yeah, I think you had to pick up saying I'm not really a computer person But you had to do a stand up giger it wasn't great. You were accused of being a prat digger Yes And stealing everyone's home. Everyone's h. And're spending your honk., I think it's slang for money. I think it's flang for money. Yeahah, that's what I've heard. But it seemed like a very odd Why did you do that even Why did you even do that? In two thousand seven, why did I do a thing for one night? Because it's a plugger Uhall I tell you why I did it? It's quite boring T later? That's what we love ones. The reason I did it Harry Yeah was I was doing a project. told I was trying to get word in the dictionary Yeah, this is what you like, isn't it? You have these little projects. I don't have these little projects. Yeah. You're sort of It's a funny thing, it's like, and it's just really to amuse yourself more than anyone, isn't it? No, it's to make money. Is it? No, it meuse myself a little bit Yeah For a long time, I've tried to get a word in the dictionary. W Was this with one eye on a sort show? I did do an Edinburgh show about it. Right So I was trying to get some words in the dictionary to see how hard that is. So anyt time I got offered a bit of press, I would do it and use words that don't exist. Right. And two of those words were prp digger and Honk. Were they? Yeah, Well they were. You didn't. It sort of worked. So I've tried to honk out there of slang, so I always say I haven't got your honk on me Oh okay, so that was so I fell for that. fell for that, and I was enjoying that. but I didn't know if you were No. But the I think the woman I know you say it, but the narrator doesn't say it does No, But even that meant it was out there on Sky News. So that's all evidence for English dictary. Did it go in the dationary? No, but yet. I went on countdown as a normal contestant, the old countdown before I as a comedian And I'm actuallyag to get the letters that speelt out honk And I had a longer word in my head, but I sacrificed that and said honk, meaning money Dent said Yeahep, that counts. Well, it's a word. honk is a word. Honk is a word, but a sound made by a goose. Yes U Yeah, but it's not in there with a slang definition. That's what I was trying to. It's so easier to get on the back of another word. Yeah, I'm going try that now. Okay. Yeah super I'm going to try and get the word supervarent in Supervarent. Yeah, like a really sort of mischievous character. And it would the example would be you. someomeone like you, right, who sort trying to cause Trouble It's yeah It's prolonged low level disruption. Yeah, but I'm low level. You think I'm high level Do you it's relatively high level, Yeah. Yeah Middle level. Mid level. Okay, I'll give you mid level And so you did Kend Dodd on Mastermind. Yeah. Do you ever meet Doddy? Yeah, twice you did. What were the ser? Circumstances? Tim and I went to see him twice Tice at the not Yeah sorry. Tim K went to see him with me twice Once at the Nottingham playlayhouse, I think I can't remember where the other one was. One time, we watched him for an hour and a half left. watched a game of football, came back and watched him for another hour and a half. Yeah. And we met him afterwards to get some advice. comedy and he had lots of his jokes written on his hands. He doesn't really he could never really in my experience, he never really gave proper advice or well, it would be like the stock stuff that he would say. Yeah, but he did say keep writing keep doing new stuff all the time, which he was doing that right till the end. Yeah, he was always putting in new gags. Yeah. My old tour manager, he went to see Doddy with his son similar thing and his son saying I'm cold Right. So they left. You don't want that An comedy show too often. No. So they they left in the interval, went home hour and a half to get his coat. and back and caught the end of the ye show Yeah. It was too long though, wasn't it? Yes. I mean, the second half is all about how long the show is. I think if you got rid of the referenceces to how long the show was, it wouldn't have been a long show. But they had an ambulance outside, they had coffee on tap It was I give one I've said this before, but I did Cardis in David's haall the night after him and I said, I was K. they said yeah, it was great. we went on so long that they locked the Multi story car park no and get the car out Yeah Yeah. he's a good subject for mastermind because he very rarely left the country. And all he did was stand up So it's quite easy Yeah H I she's not gonna take this Hello, Yes Right, yeah Right? yes, now I get it is Okay, I'll tell them. Well, there's been a product recall on some brands of Wafer Thin ham. Basically what's happening is the wind is catching the ham And there's a risk it can blow onto your face and so it will you can breathe in You can breathe out rather, but the ham acts as a sort of valve and stops you from from breathing in. Right. Sometimes it goes a bit high and then other times Ohh ye here comes another one You can breathe out, but. You're right, Harry. Anyway, just u So from now on, thick cut only. Sarah The concept of Taskmaster was created by Horn sometime in early two thousand nine. Perching. That's some honk right there. That's it. You're up to date with Alex Horn Some nice honk there.ight. Thank you, Sarah. Oh here comes the ye Sheould likes to I like thatver. tricks. Right. Do's up to you? Leave it there, take it now, takeake it now or leave it there and pick it up at the end. Which What would you like to do? I'd like to pick it up now please. pake it now. OkayK. Thank you, H. There may be some wetness on one end. Yeah, a little bit, little bit. Yeah. due to the way that she's made Do you know how much a twwix cost now? No, how much? eighty five p? seventy five p. Wow, not bad though. prettyty close. I think that's an offer, I think normally eighty five No it says RRP, so Okay. All right. Recommended retail pr. Yeah. Well there's two asterisks after that. J would say? Yeah Rachel, ye. Yeah, no, he's yeah. he's going on about. r really a lot of detail and very penantic about prices, Rachel. Yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah, usual place. See you later So listen, you,er Yeah. So we then sorry. So you will get of course the everywhere you go, I'm sure, Alex, everyone talks you about Task Master. This is your big thing, isn't it I suppose it is. Yeah. yeah. Yeah, it's absolutely a big thing. Very few people have An idea like that that has been caught on and has become a sort of way of life for some people People love it It's gone all around the world and Mbe what are you going to do next? Do it cast a shadow over you? Do it you still enjoy it or what? I do still enjoy it. And if we're I don't know, is it okay to talk honestly? talkal frankly, yes Well, yesterday, I went to Frimley Park Hospital where they use Taskmaster in the children's ward cheer up the children. So they've got videos which I've done videos specifically for it. R. And that did feel quite nice. Yeah. and there's no honk involved in that which is weird Um, that it has been allowed to be used for free. And so that felt good. So When things like that happen, you do think, okay, this is a good thing. I had a less happy experience when I was on my tour and they said, Oh, you know, would you come and I had to open a garden, a sick children's hospital. So I said to my friend Kevin, who's a short guy, five foot Why don't you dress up as the badger? We had this badger outfit. Yeah. And we walked ont to the Chren's ward and one child started screaming and saying takeake it away, get rid of it, or you know Right. M rid of the bader. I mean, mummy. So it seems like that had actually made them worse. Right. Well, I'm sorry to hear about the badger. And who was it? Kevin? Kevin, you Right but he wouldn't have He was ha very embarrassment Yeah doing sort twitchy creature moves. Yeah No, I'm not bored of Harry. I do still enjoy it because we have a different cast every time and they are the ones. Yeah yeah. But you have to come up with lots of different tasks the whole time. That's true. But I don't come up with jokes anymore, so this is my outlet. And it's sort of half a joke really. I come up with a little situation and the proper comics come in Finish it off I do I do enjoy it Great. that's good to hear. Great, greatreat news. 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Warning M in exceptional circumstances block the nose and cause sudden death, M put off potential suitors, can reduce libido and increase disappointment in what life has to offer and infection of the cheek muscles interventions in an uncaring world. It's time for our theme of the Wek British seaside. It's the British seaside and we're joined by Dr. Catherine Ferry Historian, specializing in architecture and design and seaside culture. Y. Catherine Welcome. Thankk you very much. Are you familiar with Alie Swne? I am indndeed. How you know Well, Telly, Right from never met before today. What shows have you might you have seen him on? Oh, that would be the task m. That's the main oneop ye But did you catch any of him in that shop window singing Sadly not. Yeah That' Sorry I med out. All right, Catherine. Catherine Ferry I know, yeah Why is that funny? It's normal up determined? Appropriate, yeah. in what a way veryery seaside. Oh sea, right. yeah. more of a port. Harry. No, I admit it's not perfect Or the port I'd say. Yeah. I mean if your name was Catherine Pier. That would be nothing for Fairy at all. Or no Or Jenny Where do you find fairies, Harry? The Jenny Iice creream cone. What? Where do you find fairies at ports. Seaside? Not really. You wouldn't B bathhe in the same water as a seeilink ferry Would you Anyway, that's not important. Katherine, I'm going to start basics.. What Do we call the British seaside? When you say British seaside, what are we thinking of?? So I'm thinking specifically about resorts Plac did you go for pleasure and leisure not the kind of Ferry port, we've established that. But I won't bring up. Saside resorts do have ferry ports sometimes. so let's aroundound the corner Park that one. Yeah, okay. Ramskate, suppose, yeah, Ramskate, G give you that Folks in. Dover overver used to be a big seaside resort. Yeah. yeah. Anyway. I like this expert a lot. Yeah. You're really pushing back, isn't? Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah Yeah, so I'm talking about Cato resorts which were actually created for the benefit of people to go for there for fun and pleasure. Right. So yeah, not not ost as in, you know, crushing waves Big cliffs. kind of think, I'm looking at amusement arcades and the whole seafront experience, shelters, beach huts, that stuff. And when did those first come into being, would you say? Okay. so this year Scarborough is celebrating its four hundredth anniversary as the world's first modern seaside resort. Good four hundred years. What was sixteen something? twenty six sixteen twenty six. But they didn't have amusement arcades then. No, so where did they have? Punch and Judy? Not No didn't even have that. They had a mineral spring So they had water coming out of the cliffs And if you think people would go you just said it wasn't cliffs Well, okay, because this is the very beginning Okay. So this is where it all came from. We get seaside resorts because people started going to the coast For the sil water. Yeah, like they'd go to bath or Buxton or Harrog somewhere. Okay, so they start going there They go to drink the water and I go to I'm going to say it's not swimming in the water, dipping in the water. doctors would send them to see places like Brighton, Margate Waymouth King George III went to Wymouth when he was going a bit, you know. in order to take the Dip in the waters for the sake of their health. So when did that So you' got sixteen hundred, you got this spring water coming out of the cliff? eighteenth century, people are going to R Dunk themselves in the water and they miraculously cured. And is it as simple as lots of people there? Let's put a couple of amusement arcades or a Well it' The sort of the principle, yeah, lots of people, they do their bathing in the morning, bit bored after that really. So then you start people entrepreneurial, local people start building theatres libraries, it's all quite Thank Jane Austin. Yeah, kind of things that they would I haven't read any Jane Austen,' be honest. Yeah. I can't think Jane Austen. Sorry. Okay. I'm afraid' some Jane Austin. Yeah. ye So What you think situation? When Katherine says, thinkink Jane Austen, what are you thinking? Nothing at all. Long dresses? Yeah, long dresses. Igous. Andaras parasoles. Yeah walks along the seafront, but not very much there, really, just the sea view, the sea air. Right And then it's the Victorians that bring all their fun stuff. How do they get to the seaside at this point Well, in the eighteenth century by yeah, it's a good question. Yeah pretty Carriages, horses O, not I would have thought the railway was that that's the change. Yeah exactly. But even before that people start taking steamers. so steam the steam revolution comes in boats before it comes in trains. That was good From about eighteen fifteen, first passenger service to Maro. Ferries, I suppose isn't it? Yes.ly ferries sort of ferries, yeah.. I think I've saw that Turner film Oh yeah. and he leaves Chelsea, I think for he goes down the tabs on to Margate. Yeah there's the proof. Yeah. Can I say something I don in Afghan, please? I grew upar Bogn Regis. Oh. In fact, who was thebset was it? Pretty good. Which king was it that is the Regis of Bogna Regis 's yeah, it's relatively new K George is? Yeah, I think it iss one of the Georg' from ancient queen called B Aual word Bulner. Yeah. It was his last words I think, wasn't it one of the Georgia's? Oh, it was, wasn't it? Yeah The last words were on his death bed, Bger Bogner. You know that? Yeah. Yeah, of course you would being from Bogner. from near Bogner.. As Sarah said I I was born in Chichester So haaven't It's another Yeah area around that area. Yeah Mast Mast. Yeah Betworth Betworth on the way. Yeah. Very pretty. Yeah. So you've got when does it become sort of You know, what might we might think like you say the amusement. Yeah. Okay. so that's all becoming That's arriving with the Victorians, late Victorians. eighteen seventy one is the first bank holiday. Right. So that means that working people actually get time off time off and then There's more people going to the seaside, therefore, there's more money to be made. so that's when you get all the stuff like the Blackpool Twower and the Winter gardens and the aquariums and the piers and all that stuff. it's all nineteenth century. That's when Punch and Judy arrive. That's when ice cream sellers arrive All that stuff, all the seasidey stuff. Yeah that you think of. Where was the first per put up Well, the first pleasure peer eighteen fourteen ride on the Isle of Whitees. eighteen fourteen Right That's the first one, it's not the first pier because they had them for steamers or ferries. prior to that But that's the first one where they actually built in a kind of pleasure element, which at that stage was simply a promenade just so that you could walk along the hereier rather than it just being somewhere you get off the boat. And is this peculiar to Britain The seaside generally all Well, this idea of the British Saside, we have this idea the Brit Saside, you know, kiss me quick and all that and you know keep your hands to yourself. You know what? It is It is report you to HR. It all started here Sogans that used to get on hats. Yeah and still do brought you to a showarles not come across that word Yes, it all came from here. We exported it You know, everybody knows we exported football. We don't recognize that we invented the seaside holiday effectively. Walk in America. Yeah And all the peers and yeah, the Pers peers came from here. That's why they're in America. All of that stuff came from here.. We're just not very good at recognizing that because seaside places get a bit of a rough ride now because everybody's gone off. Where are? gam did they go down and are they coming up a bit? I think that I'd like to think they are coming up a bit. ye. It's patchy, you know, because there's a lot of poverty and deprivation around our seaside places now, which is ery sad. Yeah. I mean, there's a few aren't there that have managed to maintain You know, that bright and still driving, right But it's got a bigger community than that, hasn't it? It's not just based on the Yeah. But then you go to Blackpool and it is a bit of you know a dpal. that one I mean, it's hard to see why Black Pole, I mean, the sand, you got the lovely sand, but the weatherers, I mean in it. It can be be It can be. I have been there in beautiful sunshine. Okay, right. So I don't know how you regenerate Um Yeah, well, if I knew that I would be up there now trying to do it. Well, Margott have had a go with the the art gallery Yeah T seems to be I mean, I think these things take a long time. It does, because it's really difficult. It's in a patch of Margate and there's all the vintage shops and the cool places around it. and then you just go a couple of streets further off and doesn't feel like that. But my kids love a pear. I mean, particularly Trrighton peer, but we're going to sk nast at Christmas They love that, you know, just the Py pushes. Yeah yeah. all the old fashions Yeah. Yeahah. so yeah. I think Well peers are having a resurgence. Are they? Yeah. Okay. If you want to buy one Brighton Palace Pier is on the market Backpool North Pier Should we buy one annex together Dady pair? Yes I got that my Dad goes there quite often for the murmurations at Bryant Palace Per, and he works for the RSPB occasionally and demonstrates the murmurations. Oh, he's the birdbush, of course. ye Yeah. Do does the peregrines at Chester Cathedral. Right U doesn't matter P Because I think Jim Davidson bought a peer, didn't he He bought one did in Hastter. No, Great Yarmouth. Great Yarmouth. Yeah. The Wellingtoner at Great Yarmouth. Yeah. he did. I don't know how you'd turn a peer around They have a habit of burning down, don't they? They do odd because there was like water. Yeah, it's like you can't get the water to the right place. That's too low, wouldn't it? Yeah, the water to get higher. And so if you've got the petrol in the right place. How much is a per How much are we looking at? I don't think the prices have actually even been given out, I think used to be a pound in it for Bright and Piar, then you inherit the Building work. Yeah You you've got the overheads, you can't just sit on it Yeah I paint that hereer You've got to paint it, you' got to maintain it. I'm out. For that reason, I amm out. Okay, well, Catherine, so you're predicting a sort of mixed future for the British seaside I'd really like people to just take another look at it You know? go back and actually look at what's there because it's actually a really part of our A really important part of our national story, national heritage. because you know, we've kind of got to grips with industrial heritage. We kind of like visiting a mill you know, seeing how our ancestors worked and all the grime and squalor and all that stuff, but actually where they had their holidays and where they went and let their hair down at Blackpool, up the tower, you know, all of that stuff Um There's all these amazing buildings there and all this fantastic heritage and We don't really kind of take good enough care of it, so I'm kind of on a mission to get people back to appreciate these places. Yeah. well, I love the British Seas and I spend a lot of time there down in the North Cank coast. Oh nice. Like you say Hbay, Margate, Witable is a favourite Andor pebbles, Gatherine Well probably sand for the feet, but I grew up in North Devon and well there was my nearest speech when I was growing up was at Westwward Hoe, which is you have to walk across a great big pebble ridge to get there. So I do have slight soft spot for pebble. the information marketplace. Yeah I want aing with a anam It's got an exclamation. See in the North Cake cooast, we're spoiled because we've got painful pebbles to walk across and then when the tie goes out Thick mud Nice. And I think Katherine, I'm right, youre thinking you've got a book out Fancy that. Yes, I do. What a lovely looking thing. Seaside architecture by Catherine Ferry, which is interesting, isn't it? You can see a couple of fairies in that book. And it's got those lovely old There aren't any fairriies. Theres hovercraft. hover that count? Is that the I wish you were called Catherin hovercraft? That I don't. Oh Julen. No. Did you ever go on a hovercraft? Yeah to the Is of White often? Yeah, that's the one that's in thele of. They were noisy, weren't they? Terrible things. Not They've gone now, right? No, no, no, look, it's in your hand Yeah, at the bottom go the other way. Go the other way. That one, there's the picture of the hovercraft going up onto the beach. That is the Isle of Whilliam hovercraft at Southseea. twenty minutes. Fty minutes. I don't know. I've never done. twenty So there's some lovely old postcards. Yeah, it's all illustrated by postcards. Yeah, the Delaware pavilion. See, that's a fantastic building. Yeah. You played there. played there yeah. ye U Is's a hastings? No, he's hingill Bill, yeah Make sill. Yeah this isus six. good for you, Catherine. How's it selling All pretty well. I'm sure it'll sell better after Don't bank on it. No Okay. Pavilions. Don't book a holiday on the strength there. That's all right. I'm an author. I don't book holidays on the strength the books at all. No, this's fantastic. You know Eastbourne there's a lovely bandstand in Eastbourne, isn't there? Well, there's lovely sort of green tiles and Yeah, that one's closed at the moment, I think because u It's got concrete canancer can if you go wr Well, cononcrete. nineteen thirties version, yeah it's sad grany That's a lovely book. I do buy that presumably from All good books Anna. Ply. Thanks, Katherine. Thanks Catherine. Is there a website that we can Just look up catherineferry. co d. uk. That's me. Lvely, thanks very much. It's the H Hill show. It's time for nameame the celebrity seed Celebrity the celebrity seed out changed, isn't it? It has changed because we can't just keep repeating ourselves, can we? I remember in the old days, it was just named that seed, wouldn't it? It was. Everyone remembers that, So this is a celebrity spinoff, is it? Yeah, well know So many of the Quiz shows do a celebrity version of the show. I'm thinking celebrity catchphrase, celebrity Mastermind. Celebrity squares, I prefer squares. Yeahep. Celebrity naked attraction Now, this is u A seal, you saw me open identity reseal that do I? Not if you don't want to, you trust me.. There's a box of seeds there. How many seeds on the There's over eight thousand over eight. I don't know how many over but we don't know. In there, I have a sealed envelope. Alex,ust popping that back in there. and there's a name written on that. What is the name written on the's Alex Horn That's my name. It's your name. Sealed as you can see. Yeah. Just going to tease that open And I'm going to in there I've got a cassette, I call it a cassette It is a cassette isn't it? It is a cassette of sorts, which is a disc of garton on there is a seed and on the seed is printed a miniaturized photograph of a celebrity or celebrities. . It's your job to not just name the seed as in name the seed, but to name the celebrity as well. the celebrity. Another seed and the celebrity linkedn anyway? Not as far as I know. Okay. That would be too good. Too clever. o for me. rightight. Can I ask another question? Yes. What do I have to do? I have to name the seed. And there's a tiny picture of a celebrity. And you have to name the celebrity. I'm I have to look at the picture? Of course.. Otherwise, how would you do it? Well, I don't know. Ridiculous. Yeah. We'd be here all day. se.ere we go. I'm have to look at the se. As it rises towards you Well I can't on the motorized platform. V veryery small no. Fashioned by myself. in my sea shed. Is Rachel let you have a shed just? Yeah I've got a shed? ye Yeah. Rachel's actually pretty good. I can't see anything. The it come on. The. What do you mean you can't see anything? Well, I can't make out any features on the sea because it's so small Well, can you have a closer look. I mean Wh's the seat the heck Can I pick it up? I don't know. No, no, I can't pick it up. Beause on the reverse of there he's printed the photograph of the celebrity se. On the reverse of it. No look. on the reverse of st. I take. Yeah. But I want to look Can I pick it up a little bit? No? No. I'm squatting. Join the magaphone g right This reduces your point seurity. I've al got this Wh we name it? Oh no, there we go What are you seeing? Red and black Ifenom lack Red and black. The colour's red and black. Yes. Gone. What? That Henry Hoover? there's a ph It's a photograph of a celebrity. Yeah, I know that. You can see the colours red and black as part of the photograph, perhaps. Yeah, that's why I thought it might be Henry Hoover Oh, Henry Hoover from your horn section thing. Well also from Henry Hoover. Right, yeah, yeah. Okay. So He's a celebron name? Is he? Do he? Not really. Is he not in applliance? Right, Well, I don't know Come on. comeome on man, think. the seed. Look, you can see the seed. Yeah, the seeds the carrot or something. You' saying carrot? and I'm saying carrot. And, you're saying celebrity, you're saying Drafter carrot J you're saying Jasper Carret. they're not linked Actually, that's upside down. Maybe if I turn the. I can't see any feature that'ated. No.. Do you want me to get it? No. Well, I'm not going Come back Oh Oh Penny drops Is it Is it doctor Who? It's not doctor Who, it's a Red beat and it's Ace. lookook it's a photograph of Ace. you see that. you recognize. Now you If you look at it again, say Yeah See?, look at it It's ace isn't? Yeah, it's and it's a red beat.ro. No points, Alex, I'm afraid. That was and name the celebrity seed. Celebrity Sit yourself down Scary Joke Cner Time for Gary's Joke Corner,ers as you know, Alex. I'm retiring in twenty thirty, handing the business over to my son Gary from my first marriage. Yeah Hello, Aarx, G lovead to see you. Yeah, love to see you Gary. I've been down there all along. I know I could see the top of your head. Oh, you could could you ha? We'll paint it out. We'll painted it out in post. All right, now Gary does need jokes. he needs jokes. Yeah, notot natural comediian. Is that fair Gary? I don't really have any aptitude for it whatsoever, Daddy, but he's forcing me into it. You're making me do it. I don't want you to do it, Daddy J. Right. Have you got a joke for? Gary, Yeah I've got a joke for Gary Carot it's joal about identity Oh yes Sittting the scene? He's sitting the scene, Daddy, is You told me this is the first thing you should do, raise expectation Gary, Gary, ask me if I'm a truck Are you a truck? Yes, I'm a truck, Gary. Gary ask me if I'm a train. Are you a train? I'm a truck 's the joke finished. Joke finished. It's all about identity, Gary. Oh, I say about identity. Yeah, no you got. Ididentity politics is all the raged, daddy. Yeah Do you like the joke, Gary? Yeah S me do a simpler one? There was thought I' I didn't mind. N flashy M look. I don't understand the joke, Gabary. Gary, Ge to tellld I' pretty sureort. Ganth. Look at me. Jant D you want to tell Alex your joke? Yes, I a joke D't make that noise, Gary, why not? It' it my appeal daddy. Heyaddy Daddy. Hedy Daddy. My friend, He only eats ring donoughnuts, bagels and polos. Really, Gary? Yes. Well, I bumped into him in a minor supermarket chain Reently Whole Foods. it just seems that way, doesn't it Oh, that's the sound that tells me we've come to the end of our podcf. 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