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The summer, serve up the cookout classics, craft Mo and dressing, toss green salads with delicious ranch dressing or zesty Italian Serve smooth, craably creamy potato salads with mayo. We all know it's not a cookout without craft. And we're live on match dayay as Doug reaches for a buffalo wing. He's got it. Oh and he's gone for a can of Psy too. What a finish There's no doubt about it. It just tastes better. Match days deserve Pepsy Last time on the Harry Hill Show Hello there, I'm Harry Hill and this is my show. It's the Harry Hill Show So Gary, with the two figures, I want you to show me what Licky did to you The guest is here, daddy. All right, well we better welcome our guest Henny Ven. Henny welcome. Hello, Harry.. Hell, I'm so sorry. the Harry Hillh Vicky the Harry Hillel. had jobicky Helloicky U My best seed in the house is. He had a job at Ascot and some people have actually written in ask him what the job was that he had at Ascot. Licking the sweat off the horses, apparently. I don't know if that's true. So Hing welcome, you are that rare thing, aren't you A German who has been taken into the hearts of this nation whose ancestors, your ancestors try to invade But not for you bombs and bullets, but jokes and insights into our own failings, not for you. the massed crowds of the Nuremberg rally. rather the stoolzen Vest circles of provincial theaters You could say neverever in the field of human comedy has so much be knowed by so many to you. But you Hen You haven't but you haven't joined us from the country that of course once elseway. over Europe and Britain between the years nineteen thirty nine before You have joined us from This was my turn two thousand two You haveve joined us from Hastings. Oh that's right, ye. ye, yeah. Do we want to do it again? No, no Do you want to say Hastings? Hastings. Hastings, of course. Hastings. Yeah. Sang Leonard actually. The posh part. Well, some say so, some say different. Yeah, well you only could go to see which is the posure pot Hy no, I mean, of course I'm joking We've forive and forgetting all that, but we do Which is quite rare, isn't it? for the Britainons? I'm just trying to think of the last German that we T hunts Jurgen Klop Yes, okay said that. Yeah, Jaggon Nora. Boris Becker. Boris Becker, sure Joseph Bys. Yeah. U King Albert? King Albert? Yes. Prince Albert wasnt Prince Albert. Prince Albert, Rather. He was responsible for so many of our Christmas traditions Christm tree. Yeah, it like a Christmas tree. Yeah. He seemed to be obsessed with Christmas that guy, didn't he Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's quite funny, even since in them twenty years that I've been here. When I arrived, that was the start of the German Christmas markets in the UK. it seems now they're absolutely everywhere. Yeah Can't move for them. No. Slling They start like in October and don't finish till March. Yeah. And it's like those are those sheds. everywere you go to what used perhaps used to be a thriving high street And it's full of these wooden sheds. Wooden sheds where it's froging sort of laser cut pine mobilars and stuff. It's quite funny. how you go to them to all them stalls on the German market and I'm always Surprised how many of my countrymen these days have floown in Romania Is that what happened? Yeah. Yeah, you're not stupid, Germans you're not coming to country speak mean, they live in Hamburg and whatnot. so they do come over from Germany, but yeah, they farm it out. Yeah Very sensible. So Hening, I believe you're on tour at the moment. Is that right?? Yeah, how How's that going From strength to strengths? Good. From strength to strength. That's right. What u That's right Where are you? Eave ever considered writing for me Yeah. What are so you're going how many days a week are you doing it now? Never more than three, four of a month. Right, ye. I prefer to do a few more because I lose sort of you're very popular. Okay. How do you feel about AI Wh? How do you feel about AI? AI, I haven't given it much thought. No you haven't Well, a lot of people are conflicted about it because it promises all sorts of advances and medicine and so forth, early diagnosis of various things. But the downside apparently is that it uses up a lot of water because the AI hard drives require water to be, I don't know, torn them down But was the thing about in start, everyone thought AI will be doing all the menial tasks. and we are free to compose our own music or something. Now, in reality it's going the other way, isn't it? My eye is doing all the fun stuff and it leaves us to scrub the floors. Yeah, they got all the good jobs. Yeah, that's right. Yeah law and writing and journalism and all that stuff. Yeah. you make a very good point. We have an AI bot. I mean this is hard hitting stuff, isn't it? Yes, it is Yeah, it's wayake up. Wake c, W. U a lesson from history. What we're doing is we've got an AI bot Sarah. Oh who's gonna come on and tell us a bit about you if that's okay. That's great. ye. Sarah G she comes She has her own theme tune. Yes. Sarah say hello to Henning Ven Hl Henning, sorry I mean hi Henning. orr should I say hello? Bitterrich dinam muta Min and Dankfur Das Canin Chenos. that me? Hello? Was that German? D W she speaking German? I'm not entirely sure. she was very welcoming. Okay. yeah They'll come in M the German, isn't it? Yeah, we'll common. Yeah,s.ill comment. Thatsolute comment. Sarah, are you going to say anything about Tell us a little bit about Hening then Here goes Here Jetets Heningwen IST I Deutsche stand upp comedian, W Stir Batribe swwitchaft in Munster and Arberatiten Censerv his two thousand two Zogger Nak Gross Britani, U'mendir markarketing Gab Ti Lung von Wick and Wanderer Zoo Arbeaton. As of Bents Vesuchaen openen Midnight and Beshls, Ss Mic comomedy Zoo Versuchen Sed october two thousand three Bit Sitwem sel styles Duchch and comedy Botchfter in London. No use to us, is it? No use to us. C have Sorry, Siri, can we have that in English, please? Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot. You English can't be bothered to learn a new language. Penningwen is a German stand up comedian. Hwen studied business administration in Munster and worked in customer relations In two thousand two, he moved to the United Kingdom to work in the markarketing department of Wickham Wanderers. One evening, he saw an open night night and decided to try things got a stight It's october two thousand three, Win has been the self styled German comedy ammbassador in London You are, aren't you? Yeah. Is that a ring bell Do that I want to get myself one off day. I be a really good arent? Yeah. Around the house. Yeah, around the house. Look how versatile is she is those hands. That's quite a masculine voice and it was sim from being Sarah. Yeah, I quite like that about Sarah. And she's got those tiny hands. M gender fluid alost. Maybe Yeah Maybe. And she got those tiny hands for, you know, fine work. what do you identify it She hasn't been programmed to answer your questions. She doesn't recognize your voice, you see. It's a bit like Siri. So let's just recap on some of that. So is that where you studied? Business administration You studied business administration,? Yeah Sarah was my tutor. So how long did you do that for? Until I knew enough. Okay S you're good to go into the world. No you go into the world. So that was like a university or something, was it? Yeah yeah. Okay. And what was the plan there What did you want to do? wasas it sort of did you have a plan? Plans is always a big word, isn't it? I mean you can have to best best hatched plans and then reality intervenes and Find yourself on an orange sofa. into your t like being interrogated by rid of the ar aluminium foil. having made your own way there from Hastings. Yeah Um So when did it sort of dawn on you that you wanted to be a comedian, Henning? Not until after it actually happened Okay. So I arrived as Sarah was telling us, I arrived in two thousand two. the reason was I wanted to learn English because I only very basic rasp off English language so very basic school English. Yeah And then I thought, well, let's move to Bly here for a few months and pick up the lingo applied for because I always worked in sports, I applied in all the ninety two football league clubs ended up with a jroob of B and Wanderers Right. And then one evening walked past the pup inet the sign outside saying tonight stand up comedy. So I've never heard of standups. I wonder what that is. Let's go in watched it and really enjoyed what I thoughtw and I thought, o I'm Mind giveiving had a go. R right. Who did you remember who was on the bill that night? Absolutely. It was a laughing horse comedy night at the Spanish Galleon in or Spanish Tavern or whatever it's called in Greenwich. And the headliner was Gary Delaney. Oh, okay Bri. Yeah yes when he was head and shoulders above anyone else. and I treated him to a drink after then in return he wrote me down a few phone numbers that open my comedy game. Oh wow. Wow. So you I mean, because Am I right in thinking there's not really a tradition of stand up comedy in Germany? No,'s come a little bit to life over the last few years. but now traditionally it was more like political comedy where people were expected to do ninety minutes or the whole concept of you have a compi and do three, four s doing twenty minutes each that was. toally unheard of. It was like even beginners essentially had to feelill ninety minutes Okay. Yeah It's a long time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, and also I think there's like it seems to me whenever I go on holiday, I turn on the German TV channel It seems quite physical and sort of You know, there be some sort of crazy guy running around his trousers fall down. there sort of a bit like a lot of clowning and is that that that was the case, but now if you turn on Telly there is M and more stand up on the box. Yeah, like a stand up you would recognise with Format of a compass reforct, right C Sarah, have you got anything you'd like to add? When done all the shows? Cats, H I got news for you? Room one hundred and one? Cats do countdown. You've done a lot of shows? Would I lie to you? And World War two in colour? you even done the Great British takeakeoff? An extra slice. Talk about easy money, That show then presented an immigrants guide to Britain on channel for what a nerve the guy's got. Talk about rubbing our face in it Yeah Exra s. Eracise. I mean, did you just I complain about German television being too gimmicky Well, you know, we exported stand up to you. We I've imported a bit of you know bit of a German thing. No Yeah, so you've done a lot of those shows. You you're good on those shows aren't you? the Parish shows off youright think. No, very good. And the and of course the extra slice is that's I think I always think of that as easiest money on TV Yeah Be you only need to sit down and look at some cake Yeah. Yeah Yeahah. And I said that's dateful, that's all right. Yeah. The wheel comes pretty close. You' you been on the wheel Oh, that's good. yeah. Yeah, it's a long way to go because it's an hour and a half out of London, but you do just sit on a wheel. You do just sit on a wheel revolving around Michael McIntyre which is you were laugh at. Yeah, how he likes it.. No, not of course, of course not. No exactly. And tell me about an immigants Guide to Britain on channel four Well that was u You want to blow by blow account? Not really, no, just Give me some time con Three line, three line line. o It's it was an immigrants It was Britain described by immigrants For immigrants. And it was an eye opening experience Mostly the Jamaicers and the absolute audacity to C me an immigrant Yeah I'm not an immigrant. I just happened to live here. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Is you an immigrant and the immigrant? No ly I thought about then long and hard when they invited me on and they said No hang on. How come I've never seen myself It's an immigrant. Yeah. So it's like you're more like on holiday. Yeah, exactly. That's funnily enough that I still feel like that. Even after twenty odd years here, I still I feel like I'm on a holiday because no one's taken anything seriously. What do you mean? Yeah, it's like everything is like slapdash in it. it's not. So that's what I love about here. So because no one's taken anything seriously And I love it so that What do you mean slap dash? This is what Iens to this like for like say The best example I can give like Like in Germany, if you want to become a plumber, you have to go through a seven year apprenticeship W're in Britain, it's enough to wake up one morning. self identify as a plumber and give it a good old go. So so in this total sense of freedom, I absolutely love it. And that's why I love being here because no one's takaking anything to the sea. So and then they plump something it's all rubbish where they make a joke about it and then oh ye you're right, mate. So and then ye You only live once, you might as well not Yeah It didn't used to be like that, do it? There's an older guy in the US. Yeah. So that is what is so good about living in Britain Mike. Everything's achievable. you can try your hand at absolutely anything and no one's holding anything against you. So it's long The only thing they would hold against you is not having a sense of humor. Yeah ab. If weren't la, if you weren't prepared to laugh summing off People would hold dead against you, but it's the only thing people would ever hold against you. Yeah, it's true that we are very proud of us s of this idea that we've got some sort of extra sense of humor. Yeah, but it's like the social importance of humour is massive you. If you're looking into a say job description what they want. They want someone was a good sense of humour And people write in the application I've got a good sense of humor. they back home it wouldn't get you anywhere. they say what's that? That's not a relevant skill That's no relevant skill. Have you got an engineering degree? What are your marks? Have you any previous experience? No I know how to tell a joke and always get me rounded Yeah. And you tell Well, you only liave once,d r I'd rather work with someone like that than someone who does everything by the book. Yeah. Yeah, what is it? whyy have we got that thing? Why do, you know Brits think they've got this fantastic sense of humor Well, I think Because the social importance of humour is so massive in the UK and almost by default. Everyone has to have's always mandatory. Yeah. Even the people who haven't got a sense of you must still have to pretend they're having a sense of you. Yeah, and they sort of use those sort of Poless slogans, you know, and they buy things with silly slogans written Yeah You don't have to be mad y buy your els. Yeah to be mad Psecco o' cllock whereatever on the back of the stickers on the back of the k. Lve love love. Yeah Yeah. I had an ex girlfriend and she's from Romford so she's proper English so she did come home And she had never heard of that slogan. And she came home with one of them and said, Oh, isn't that lovely? I said, Are you having me on That's going straight out in the recycling They didn't have that in Germany, do they? I mean, peopleople must laugh in Germany, but we have this idea of being all very. But the difference is in Germany, people laugh once the work is done He not instead of doing any workds, but there haves to be culturally different. Yeah But I gotta say, I prefer the British w. Well I think that's why we welcomed you so wholeheartedly. Oh I just just excuse me a second Yes A. Penning. Great, yeah. laughs a lot. M. Yeah, yeah. How dod you think I should take it from now on?. Yeah, cheheers, good idea See you later. H Right, Sarah, have you got anything further to add about any een? Whenen was the presenter of the BBC World Service Radio documentary Wall in the head in which he explored the invisible cultural and psychological divide between East and West Germans twenty five years after German reunification following The fall of the B Malfunction Oh wow. Yet he's deep. 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Muck And st the kid Buy six sets of great British low pointint stamps and get the Liz Truss Cckp Coin Collection and a Peter Mandeleston Cuckoo Cck. Absolutely free. Warning. M cause uneasiness, disappointment, lethargy, thush and dier Reency innovation Princely Inventions in an uncaring world. It's time for a theme of the Wek Clock I'm joined by Alex Jeffrey, an industry qualified clockmaker indndustry qualified. Conservation LED Cockmaker No, conservation restoration Heritage. It might have been taken our conservation. Yeah Cock makers. No LEDs. I'm not sure where the bio was taken from, but that's accurate. That. And you're part of the in house clock team at the Palace of Westminster? I was until three years ago when I left and started my own clock making company. Oh okay, you left, You weren't pushed? No. I wasn't pushed. No, no, but I was there for a couple of years Um I imagine there's a lot of clocks in the Palace of Westminster r? There are. Well the one strapped to the side of the building gets all of the attention. A big bnd of course, ye. But it's very easy to forget that there's over ones. There's smaller ones in all the offices, in the chambers. So there's a team of three people And it's their full time job to look after all of the clocks in the palace. And it's around three hundred hereritage English dial clocks, they're called There's around a thousand quartz clocks, which might be less interesting from a heritage standpoint, but just as important if someone's trying to run a meeting And of course, Big Ben. Yeah. What about wrist watchatches? You go around winding the MP's wristwatches. We don't do that. We stop there. No, we do stop there Yeah, it's amazing that number of clocks. I mean would he You know, to have three clock makers working full time seems I don't know, seems slightly over the to say slightly over the top It I think we more this. Well it could be a team of five quite easily. It's quite a demanding job and it has its own unique schedule The idea is that you get up very early and you do the majority of your work before anyone gets in So you don't get under people's feet and if you have to go in and wind a clock or work on a clock in the palace You don't have to knock on the door of an important meeting or something like that to get in the way It bit like a paper round. Similar. Sry I didn't int this is Hening Ven, of course. Hello. nice to meet. Hello, yeah. So you'll be really busy then twice a year Twice a year extremely busy. yes So tell us a bit about clocks. When do we think the first clock was invented There's no absolute answer to that question, but it's widely accepted that The first timekeeping devices came from Ancient Egypt U This is around three thousand BC over five thousand years ago. Wow And they claim in the in the form of something called a shadow clock, what we'd call today a sundial. Right? Of course, yeah I'm which was a very useful way of taking the time, you could take advantage of the Earth's gravitational movement create an object with a shadow cast behind it and create a time a time standard off of the back of it which is a very useful thing until you realize that you might need to tell time. att nighttime or in adverse weather conditions So around fifteen hundred years later, the Babylonians, ancient Babylonians, they created something called a Klebsidra. whichich is a water clock So these are good examples of using different forces to create time, you know the flow of water in and out of a vessel and regulating that could cause was there bit like timeource? Yeah, So a bit like a sort of I suppose an hourglass would be another sort of example of time passing. We got to be able to time that first, haven't you? Andven you got to be to time the water to work out what the clock is. How would you do that in the first place? Well you're regulating the flow of the water in and out And the way you regulate it is up to you So time as we know it today, it would be a reasonable question because you might say, well, how do you know this is sixty minutes worth? But it might have been more of a rudimentary approach where they say, well, as soon as this vessel is full We go do the thing. Right. You know, it is a time reference created. the way you apply is up to you. Okay, S the wind. Wh a sun die at work It needs to be You need to know where the sun is at its highest point, right You just need the sun at any point, but yeah at the highest point. I' What time is that? Midnight? No. Midday. Midday, of course, ye. It's the highest point ye. twelve. But clocks as we know them today, they started being seen in around the thirteenth or fourteenth century. Wow as long ago the oldest clock, the oldest running clock in the world is at Salisbury Cathedral And it was made in thirteen eighty six. heaven That's why the Russians wanted to go there and have a look We all thought they had been lying. They weren't at all. That was why it's for clockmaking, I see, They're interesting theyematics. And this would be yeah, there you go And these would be big cast iron machines. It would be it's what you'd call a gravity clock. So there would be a weight that descends over time That would be the motive force of a clock. Right. And then the output would probably be a bell The bell would be striking maybe once a day initially to call people locally to an event.ight Maybe a call to prayer or something happening locally. ye, poisoning in this market square. Do the u does that bring the so it's like cogs and stuff all that yeah Exactly. So that's what when I say a transmission train, it's a selection of wheels and gears or as you say. Coach, cooach So when did we develop springs then? Is that the next development? You've got the weight the pendulum? What comes next? The pendulum came a little bit later. sixteen fifty six, it was one of the biggest moments in. clock making horological history, someomeone called Christian Hugginens a physicist and clockmaker from the Netherlands created the pendulum, which boosted accurate timekeeping forever And the reason it's useful for, a pendulum is useful, it's called It's referred to as a PHO, a precise harmonic oscillator, which means when it moves, it goes from, you know, its period, its arc, one side to the other, is extremely reliable, regular. consistent and I suppose you don't need that long drop Don't need a long drop for the portable. Yeah, for the spring. but don't forget the pendulum is slightly different to the motive for. So the spring is a bit like the petrol in your car. It will make the clock go. Right Runs up the cogs, the transmission train, and then you need something at the top that allows the power in this transmission train to escape at the right the correct rate. That's the heartbeat of the clock It's called the escapement. Clock making' very handy because a lot of the components in clocks do what they sound like they do. It allows the power to escape and that's the heartbeat. you hear the tick and the tock and the pendulum regulates the release of that transmission.. They're slightly different, but they work in tandem. Yeah, interesteresting that. And why is there a tick and then a tock? Wh isn't it tick Then there'd be a big problem and you'd have to call me and I could come and serve a sh your clock for you and make things better again. It's cool. Yeah. Have you got any questions, Anennie Yeah. I was preparing for you to say to me, what is o a clock Which is C say that? I don't know if you started with that. What is a clock? Because that's? Well, it's a straightforward question, hopefully. But when you work with clocks every day, it's very rare that you put down your tools and what you're doing and think, ah. what exactly is this? So the best way to describe a clock is as simply as possible, I'd say So it's a device which measures and displays Time. Tim. It's a fundamental tool that allows for the organization and scheduling of human activity. Yeah rene that You're the clockaker, I'm the comediian. This is yeah. And I think their clocks are very interesting, I think they sit at a wonderful at the cross section of utility and artistry that Very practical things yeah. there for practical purposes When's my train coming? what time? how long has my chicken been in the oven? How much long is this going to go on for? But as well as that, I'll wrap it up as not you.. they embody all of these other things heritage craft and artistry When did that come in? Because presumably they were practical initially and then they become, you know, I'm a big fan of the Antiques Roads Show alth I think it's gone downhill recently I don't know if anyone else is feeling that feels a bit like Fiana Bruce is a bit too much all over it. She think she needs to take a bit more of the back seat,'s just person.ish I wish I had a take. wish I wish I had a take. Yeah. but it sounds reasonable. But know the kids are all singing the you know Fiona Bruce Ferjacaka song. Do you know that It's about I think it's about people's frustration about antiques Rad show. Fiona Brus. you've heard this, Fiona Brus, reads the news, reads the news, host of Antiques Road show, host of Antiques Rad S shows gone downhill.' a lot A lot of that feels like that's I mean a lot of it sung absolutely everywhere, I mean. Payground. Playgrounds pubs, a lot of discourse Yes, but a really interesting point we see W the trains because obviously clock Traditionally three o'clock in London was a different time from three o'clock over in Dvon Dv and Cornwall on essentially every town had their own three o'clock and that made And is it right that they only introduced like a nationwide clock for the purpose that train schedules made any sense? Absolutely. I mean the advent of the railway was a big, big reason for that. Yeah. it went from time being a fairly isolated thing that you might have for yourself in your house orr maybe your village if you're lucky. to something that needed to be distributed and networked And it was because of the industrial revolution and things like train travel. It would not be at all reasonable to leave London at twelve, get to wherever you're going eleven. you know, not useful at all. so yes It's very true. Yeah. What I was saying about the annti Stas show was that they often they bring these fancy ornate clocks, you know, very valuable ornate clocks. And I'm wondering when did that when did they become to start to be sort of objectar or think precious things Yeah Um, It's hard to say exactly the goen there's a golden era for clock making in England, which is Around the mid seventeenth century to around the mid eighteenth century.? Yeah, they're my favorites So I talk about it's when it it's all about provenance of Blue sky thinking, creations invention. So I'll talk about the advent of the pendulum sixteen fifty six Very useful In order for a pendulum to work usefully, it needs to sit on a horizontal plane, which isn't in any way practical for moving around. So later in seventeen fifty five someomeone called Thomas Mudge created something called the Balance U is the lever escapement which is used for timekeeping later in watches where you didn't need to have a clock on a horizontal plane in order for it to work. So demand fed invention seventeen sixty one, John Harrison solved longongitude at C because he realized that He could create something where that was possible U, you know, an adaptation of a lever escapement again So it's all about the steady progression of demand Yeah I mean the future of the clock Very good quest. I wish I'd ask that question. Do you want to ask it, Harry? It's so profound as well because it's talking about time and it's referring to a clock. It I think there seems to be an interest, a real interest more so at the moment, increasingly with I'm, based skills Yeah. the repair shop. I was going to say in light of you bringing up the Antiics Road Sh,ve been on that No, You watch this after they've seen this A straight and mention my name at the door. Yes. Alex yes, his name' is Alex Jeffrey. Yes. Yes I' put you j. Yeah, you know, Antiqu Road Show, the repepair shop, it's a very useful thing because br it brings this kind of conversation about the importance of the artistry of design and craft skills, working with your hands, knowledge passed down from tradition, the importance of keeping that President How did you get anu, Alex? It's important I did a very, very traditional route. so I learnt my trade, my profession, in the traditional way that these skills are handed down. so spending time with and watching skilled hands at work. so I do what's called a time served apprenticeship U with an old English clock making company. And one of the things I love about it is it's a bit of a misconception that clock making is pure engineering. you know, everything. People think maybe everything is perfect in a clock and it's something that absolutely works without any generous tolerances or anything like that. But rather than pure engineering, I think clock making is very much rooted in the arts and crafts community. There's lots of it that goes into a clock, lots of different skills I spent time with blacksmiths, glazers, signwiters, gold leafing, as well as the machining and the making So it's a wonderful profession for job satisfaction because all these things unite to help create something. Um, you're a clock maker and where do you sell your clock, Aerlex? I don't. So I focus I'm the b backke end, I focus on the conservation and restoration of heritage clocks, so I do a lot of servicing and restoration work. rather than retail I work in an amazing place in West Norwward in South London called the Clockworks which is three things all at once. It's a museum with a permanent collection of clocks from eighteen forty to nineteen seventy It's a resource space so people doing projects, research, students, whoever can come and use the library It's also a workshop where Conservation is in practice It's all open plan and a light industrial building, lots of bare brick, lots of good lighting So I'd encourage people to visit. We should go and visit. It's an amazing place to It's not far to spend some time. Yeah, it's not far from me. Yeah Harry, do you want to ask Alex how he feels about mobile phones seeing People carried a time on there and was just getting to them This is good. It's a good system. But Henning makes a very good point, you know, because you know, I mean, I wear a wristwatch. You're wearing a wristwatch, Hening? N have done. Never have done. Fair enough. Be I like it. you know, I mean they're just in the habit of yeah, slightly habitual, but my kids don't wear watches. they just have the phone. What might be lost is the ability to look at it casually quietly. If you're in a meeting, if you're somewhere where you might not want to be, you can glance at your wrist Getting your phone out and doing this is brazen, isn't it U' Its it's not a problem at all. I mean,, you know, the evolution of time, the way it's been networked, The way it's available to everyone It can be on your phone, you could have somethingomething very rudimentary like be fewer people these days that buy wrist watches then Say thirty years ago when it was an actual necessity Maybe so. I can't really speak to the wristwatch industry. I'm have always had their place because there's a collectorship and I think they're more inherently They have a market for people that find them interesting as relics as having a place in time in history. Watches is linked to the jewelry market So I think it will always survive because of that. you know, it's it's linked to something that we see We see a lot of, you know, the jewelry trade being very popular I mean, that is like if you go back, say Fty years ago people's stamp collections, they could be worth an absolute fortune And now, because there' no collectors left, because it's just not in people's psyche to do anything with them, so they're effectively worthless That's why I have to keep working If we want to find out more about clocks, do you have a website or what was the name of your is there a website for the name? Yeah sure. My company is the Alex Jeffrey Clock Company. R. But I'd encourage everyone to visit the clockworksock West Norwward, South London And you can find it online. Great. to visit. Fantastic. Alex, thanks so much for telling us all about cloths. How Right, it's time to play, nameame the celebrity seeed. Celebrity I'm sure you're familiar with the name the seed henning game. we play every week on the pod scarf, but we can't do that every week because it would become tedious and repetitive. So what we're doing is Name the celebrity seed All right, so that clearly that is not The thing Not the seed of a celebrity. it is a seed Uh, What's see in that bx, I've got no idea at this st. Eight thousand seeds. So great eight thousand well, originally eight thousand seeds, you've lost some. Just from Min General waste and spit. A curious, what's going to happen hereood, I'm glad I can see that in your face.? Yes So I've produced from that box an envelope. What' did it say on the envelope? Henning? That's your name. It's a coincidence. It's your name. Now I'm going to open that sealed envelope and inside is a seed with a tiny image of a celebrity on Yeahuh that I have painstakingly printed off on my laser printer, cut out and attach the seed It's your job to A, name the seed and B, name the celebrity. Are you up for that? In theory, absolutely. Okay. All right, I'm going to press that button Platform will rise up which is not you, you don't do it. hate it when they do that No there wasn't clear instructions then all I did was very well some It'st pretty clear. I know the button. I stand back then? Yeah, No, you can stand nice and clean. Just don't press the button All right, name the seed. the seed seed. See. Sea at the sea The seed's easy right? The seed. I don't know at all what's going on. That's a se That's the seed, right? The seed. That's a seed seed That's not a seed is a seed of one. Yeah. Well that's what you've got to say what the seed is. Well the seeds from the seed. You've got to say the seed. If someomeone studied watching culture or something, they'll be able to tell you. It's not that I don't know what the seed is. I mean, for starters, can I borrow your glasses? Because I can't see your thing. Okay, well we have a magnifyingass. No that. Yeah. We have a magnifying glass Soe can I bring that thing up again a bit Now I feel like that Belgium geeizer. pooor Rle . press the button You're gonna break it What are you doing?rying are you doing? position? You can't stop. It doesn't stop. It stops in the up final up position or the down position. Well then it's better up Is itough's bit high now, isn't it Break that off It's horrible. Yeah. So now in an ideal word, what would I be saying? Well you can see the seed. I'm still unsure what you mean by seed. Well that said coffee bean. Well are you saying coffee I don't know. Well there we go. Oh, and then there is a celebrity. of a celebrity on there On the seed. I mean, sometimes I think I'm not for this world Now I'm starting to question the idea of the whole of the came So let's get it right. So that one is a seed for whatever it is. And then you glued something on top of your seed.leber What do you mean a celebrity? It's no picture. It is a picture it's a face. You're gonna kick yourself when you find out what it is. I'm more likely to kick you. That you think is a face. Have a look on yourself and you tell me that's a face. Well I know it's a face because I printed it off and stuck it on the sea Yes. Oh but he's upside down Listie Yeah, it's upside down. Yeah, I know. Okay, let's play. again then This is coming into focus Stop ell tell you what, I bring it down and then you getting the hang of that, don't you That is like an antenna. There's a reason for that Well you said there is a reason for it. So is it then does his name start with A? Just tell me, what is it? I don't believe know It's some tiny picture of a person I've never seen. Yeah I like you might as well stick I'll tell you what, I come back next week and then I'll play that game with you. I blew a picture of someone I went to school with on there. and then I have a right gu at you for not knowing who that is. Well it's Mark Forma or? I don't know, Mark. Doesn't it ever look with Mark Forma?ust try and take the heat out. Deep breath, dear idear, from n to a hundred I have to blow my nose, I'm so upset. So am I? What is the so hate my so fabam to ask us again. Do you want to guess what the type of seed is If you were to plant that, what would grow? Have a guess? A tree? Okay. Yeah Whato is it then? What is it? Youre saying I give up No one's ever given up. Most people would have a stab It felt to me like you prefer me giving up while Ileven. us giveive us the glasses again I gave up in your best interests, This is too high up We probably don't need the platform that it's on. You know, if we were to take six inches off it, but everyone's a different height. You should have seen Deborah Meiden. I had to hold her up Did she solve it? Yeah No Some people have their I mean, that's an easy seed Out of curiosity In here knows what's going on Alex, now is a master clockmaker. Have you got any idea who this is or what's going? Have a look. Have a look. Come and have a look, Alex He's gonna get it first time. Come aroundound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's highly unorthodox H haveave a butches You can see there's a pinch on it from here Yes, it's clearly a picture of someone. Yeah. You'll miss your young ey. You'll get that. all as you You want it down? No, it's okay You see he's used to looking through a magnifying glas because he's a crop maker H had a, u especially I see that Dellicate touch in which hand. Blow away. Who do you think it is? But The atmosphere Electric. Absolutely no idea. I'm going to say suunflower, Robbie Fowler. Okay, it's not. it is It's David Bowie. Oh miss those locks. It's a French bean. Have another look at that Parly David Bowie, you see Yeah, latent. Batant. Why don't you believe me? Why would I go to these lengths to Trick you V'get too small, Aarry. That is just too small, I'm afraid. That was name the celebrity seed. Celebrities Gary's Joke Corner. Its time for Gary's Joke Corner? It's time for Gary's Joke Corners. you know, handing the business over to Gary in twenty thirty, Henning Oh! Hello, my name's Gary Hill and this is my show. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, n, nine, nine nine, n, n, nine nine nine n, n,, no, n, nine, n n Oh. Now Gary's only twelve, but he's taking over from me in twenty thirty when I retire from the game. And so he needs jokes. Henny, do you have a Have you got a joke for me? Oh, I'm sure I do. Hing Ian to hear it Gary? Yes, pase. Okay. Two fed blokes go to the pub. Yes. So it's the first one you're around Sayss the other one. So are you, you fat Bastard You you like that Gary? I likek that big ro for me. I was only twelve. Okay, only twelve. You another one Gary? Yes, please. Why did my grandfather cross the road? I don't know. whyy did he cross the road? For occupy France You like that Gary? Yes, I like that one That's great. S work. Well sure would work for me. Yeah. No, I mean That's a good point, Gary. Yeah's a good point. Yes because actually my grandad between the years ninet the property had special significance for my granddad because between the years nineteen thirty nine to forty five He was a heroine addict Gary, have you heard a joke for us? Yes, Daddy, I have. Daddy Daddy dadding. Don't make that noise, Gary. Why not? It'tit my appeal, daddy Daddy daddy, daddy. how does an annt do inverted commas? Well, Gary, is it like that Yes Th so? Oh well that's the sound that tells me that's the end of our podscar. So all that remains is for us to thank our expert, Alex Jeffrey and of course our special guest Hening Ven st in a ship of g Fel per on shore, lausing an inline made top the door Thanks for watching. See you next time. B I means I'm Bober. Yeah Fancy coming back to my place U yeah g then Mister H a hill show, have a hill show Hill shower, O Hill show