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They got twins from Croatia, uh Pagia Stoyakovich's kid. Fascinating team. So I I, you know, I've been on this a little bit , but I just want to stamp what I truly believe. This was my prediction. And yes, I like to be right when I'm wrong, I admit it, but I kept saying about NIL you can buy a lot of things in life. You can't buy happiness and you can't buy championships. The New York Mets are a great example. They got Steve Cohen. They are rolling out the money. And last year they finished four games over 500 and missed the playoffs. So um the most the five most expensive rosters in college basketball Kentucky, BYU, Duke, Arkansas, and Louisville , none made the final four. One made the Elite Eight. And I've said this. The NIL money is jet fuel if you got a great head coach and an excellent culture. If you don't, all it does is raise expectations and get coaches fired. Texas football, number one NIL last year. Couldn't make a 12-team playoff. Phoenix Suns last year, 10 games under 500. One of the most expensive rosters in league history. It's like Hollywood. You know, it's my my daughter used to live in, they call it Weeho, West Hollywood. 10,000 beautiful men and women that are perpetually unemployed. You'll see them at Equinox and Trader Joe's every day in Hollywo od. Do they have the work ethic? Do they have the commitment? They're beautiful. They should be on the big screen and they can't get work. Here's the truth. Fans don't like the NIL because people don't like when other people separate from them. The example I would use, Oprah Wyn Free got less popular when she went on a diet and lost 40 pounds. True story, I used to work at NBC. The literally her likability rating shrank as she lost weight because the feeling was, oh, now she's rich and she's thin and she we don't like people separating from us. And you know, the Kentucky, by the way, is a rich basketball program . They're in their longest elite eight drought in team history. So I'm not saying that you can't, you know, Mick Cronin and I talked about it. I'm not saying you can't get a better roster, but what if they don't fit? What if you can't coach? What if your culture stinks? All these teams left, Yukon, Illinois, you know, they they all're like Michigan, Dusty May, great culture. Arizona. Tommy Lloyd was up at Gonzaga for twenty years. He saw what a great culture. It's hard to get players to Spokane. Well, not anymore because they have a great system and a great coach and a great culture. And with that, Brad Underwood is joining us live. Fascinating team. Anyway, I'm on one of my rants, Brad, about all this NIL stuff. I love it. I love it. I was taking it all in. Um, so your team is probably the most fascinating. You go get a player, Keaton Waggler, he's un recruited, and I watch him play and I'm like So when he came from Kansas, I read a story this weekend, he you you see him finally on campus. How many practices or times in the gym did it take to watch him and go, We may have just stolen the best high school recruit that nobody knew of in the country? How long did it take you to spot it? It you know, it it you go through it in the summer and and Keaton got the ultimate compliment from Kylan Boswell. You know, players are players are gonna go at each other. You know, the new guy's coming in, the vets are gonna challenge him. They're gonna say, Okay, who is this guy? Blah blah blah. And and Kylan Boswell walked in uh I'm gonna say sometime right around the fourth of July. And um he he's like , Coach , this one's got it. He said this one's got it. And he said he's tough. And you know, we had two one and duns uh last year and and he goes, This one's different. He said this one's got it. And you know, as a coach, you respect a veteran, but you also haven't put him through the fire. You haven't you haven't you haven't coached him every day in in practice and they haven't gone through adversity and they haven't played in front of uh you know fans on the road and 16,000. You never know how they're how they're going to react. So um this one became we had a a scrimmage with Florida in a little small gym in Orlando, and it was a bloodbath. I mean, it was it was two teams just just competing, going at it . And for a stretch of time there, he was the best player on the court. Wow. Wow. And I said, okay, he's really tough. And he's got it, he's got a great demeanor. And um I knew right then that he was he was he was a he was gonna have a really good year. Then it took us a little bit just to figure out how to utilize him in the right way. Yeah. And and um we we grew in that area with him. Well it's really I here's where it's fascinating what you've done. So I think it's easier to recruit domestically 'cause you know the good AAU programs, you've been coaching in the States. When you go over to Europe, I mean I love I'm going with my son to Europe this summer. I'm a visitor. I I've been there a few ti I am a visitor. You got twins from Croatia, you got Paige's son, you've got you got guys from all over Europe . Coach, maybe you go to Europe five times a year that I don't know about, but how do you know who's good? I mean, obviously there's a bunch of agents trying to sell you their kids. How did you know is it just film? I I feel like recruiting Europe could be really full of potholes and landmines if you didn't have like great connections over there. Is it hard? Yes. Um and I give my staff all the credit. Uh Jeff Alexander, Orlando Antigua. We've been nurturing relationships over there for years. And uh now we go over every month to six weeks. Um one of them one of ' isem over there . Um and and we developed relationships with the agents, with the coaches. Um I did a clinic in Belgrade this summer that was as good a basketball clinic as I've ever been a part of, but they fit us and and and we had some connections and and again uh we got Tomislav Vic first , and then to be honest, it was it was it was leaning on him to find out about the character, to find out about the who they are as a person. Do they fit in our locker room? Sure. And I'm a really big character guy. I I want character, not characters. Yeah. And and um we leaned onto him. And you know, obviously one of those guys is his twin brother, and then you know, David Murkovich was a teammate and and and and it just it just grew. And uh Andre Stoyakovich was in the portal and he's a guy that fit a hole that we had. And um, you know, it just just so happened his his dad was Pasia and he was, you know, he's from over there, but it it just has worked great for So um Brad Underwood, coach of uh the Fighting Line I Illinois, which I was down watching a football game and looking at your basketball facility in s in uh this year earlier, and uh one of the things I like about your program is not a lot of disruptions, not a ton to do. You you're you're into your sports and your academics. I look at your game against UConn. You guys have been an unbelievable second half team this year . I mean in the tournament and Yukon is and this is just I my take on Yukon is they wear you down and it fatigue sets in. And if you're a young team like Duke, it can unravel fast because they got depth and power. Why have you been I mean when you think of UConn and you've watched the film already, what jumps off the film of UConn immediately ? Well uh i it's very easy to d uh to me it just jumps out and smacks you and that's and that's their culture. It's winning. Uh there's no there's no hiccup in anything they do. Uh they can have a drought, uh they, can play great, they maintain a composure uh that that is is is maybe unrivaled. They don't they don't ever get too high, they don't ever get too low. Um you know they, they've got Caravan is one of the best players in the country that no one ever talks about. He's the ultimate winner. Um and and you know, they can hurt you in a lot of ways. I I think that um um we're a completely different team than when we played them in on on Black Friday in November. Yeah. And um I think we have eight starters. I think that's helped us. You talk about our second halves. I think that's helped us and and you know we've found a rhythm. And we've been in two just nasty street fights with Houston and Iowa and and they were physical and hard-nosed. And then we finally found a little footing offensively and and uh uh were able to pull away. But uh um yeah I expect that same type of game with Uticon. They just don't go away and they're relentless. And I like to think that uh you know we're we're better prepared now than we were in November. So uh I know you're you've already I watched the Michigan game. Um that was at home. Michigan is as I said this the other day. I went to the United Center. I wanted to watch them live. I thought Michigan's ball movement looked like an NBA team. I think their passing is I can't even believe it in the half court said it's really for college basketball it's extraordinary. Mara, who was um always a good defensive player, now he's has become a good offensive hub and passing and um do you look at this final four as kind of Michigan up here and three other excellent teams? Or do you think these teams are all it it's anybody's final four? I think it's four teams that any of them can win it. And if you don't play well , you'll lose. You'll lose. I uh you know, I think that uh um you know you you've seen uh uh you know Purdue beat Michigan in the Big Ten tournament. Uh you've seen uh you know Air Arizona's uh you know had had moments this year where they've gotten beat. Um I think it's it's it's all about who's playing well. Uh yeah, I think uh you know what I think all four teams are playing really well. And it's it's a matter of you know, Michigan has been uh maybe the best player in the tournament in Yaxel. Yeah. Or if he's great. And I think that they have something that maybe the rest of us don't and Mara, who's just a an absolute defensive monster at the rim. But um if you don't if you don't play well, uh they could lose. And um, you know, you gotta make shots. You gotta, you know, I think they're the final fours , you know, kind of a tough guy's game and you got to be physical and rebound and do all those things to win it. And if if you do those things, you got a chance. So you've reached the elite eight minimum in two of the last three seasons. You got it rolling, you got the recruiting going, you got the Europe thing going. Is um a final question is this is listen, I like the NIL because my take is it's college football, a good team can get really good adding two or three players. But that means Brad Underwood has to get on the phone with agents, which doesn't even sound like fun. Is there part of you if I said Brad, okay, you weren't gonna be as good eight years ago , but you didn't deal with agents or the new version, which is hell, you can just go buy something if you can't find it. Well, you tell me as a coach, how do you land with NIL ? Yeah, uh so I'm a big fan of NIL. I think the game of basketball's never been better. The p I mean Yaxel wouldn't be in college if it was if it wasn't for NIL. Right. Uh you can go on you can go on down the list and and college basketball itself, the talent is just unreal. The players are so good. And and that's helped help that. And I and I'm for that. I think the key is is building your roster. I think it's all about role players. Um I think it's very I think it's very much like an NBA where you you're gonna have a couple of guys who who probably um uh make a little more than the others, but you gotta have role players. You've got you've got to have guys that uh you know for us, I think that's why we've excelled Jake Davis and and and Ben Humerkaus, Tomislava Viesic, you know, uh the we're bringing Andrey Stoyakovic now who's all region off the bench. He was a starter early, had an injury. Uh everybody's gotta want to play for the name on the front of the jersey and not the name on the back. And you've got to find those guys, no matter how much money you spend. You can spend oodles and gobs of money, but you can just be giving it away to the wrong people. That's right. And to me, it's a to me it's about finding the right role players. And we'll we'll all find the talented guys. But but role players that'll fit in and be a great great great teammates and joy for their their success of others is something that's really Brad Underwood, coach of uh Illinois, remarkable team. Uh I have not watched this much college basketball in a long time. The quality of the game is just astounding. And coach, I have Thanks, Colin. Appreciate you having me. You bet. They're really good. Number one in the country in and a lot of it is efficiency with them. Is they are very intentional. They can slow it down. I just find European, you know, you you I asked him, like, how do you do the European recruiting? You could get it feels like you could get, you know, really manipulated or taken because you don't know. But what did he say? We just send people over there, we do, you know, we do camps over there. But the other thing he said, and this is indisputable, and I noticed it three years when UConn won the national championshi p. The quality of play. I'm watching Michigan at the United Center. The passing looked like an NBA team. The three point shooting, it looked like an NBA team. I mean it's always been, we talked about this yesterday. You go to back the Duke Butler when Butler was good. They're doing it with defense and toughness. You're getting fine, you're getting national championship games, team shooting 32%. That's awful. Everybody says they love defense. No, you love your team's defense. Nobody likes watching defense unless it's their team's defense. If I said you Super Bowl is six to three, you'd only like it if you were the team that ended up with six. Right? Nobody else in the league wants to watch that. Um, the offensive efficiency, shot making, attacking, and finishing at the rim is so high at college basketball. I don't know if I said this yesterday. It felt like for about a 15 year stretch, college basketball was just AAU basketball with jet fuel. Now it feels like it's just the NBA missing one great player a roster. Like if you put one more player in Michigan, like like a really high end guy, you'd be like four NBA dudes here. Like it it is really good . Alright, J Mac . We're making things happen today. Uh that ABS system in baseball is just , it is, it is remarkable the unden unintended benefit of it. It has become the game show reveal and it's fantastic. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and, the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast inside the Parker for 22 minutes of pipe and hop baseball talk featuring the biggest names and newsmakers in the sport. 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Every day there's a new headline, a new highlight, a new moment you've got to see for yourself. That's why I stay locked in with the Bleacher Report app. For me, it's about staying connected to my stuff Download the Bleacher Report app today so you never miss a moment . So last night, you can baseball season starting. I was telling you, I was watching the Cubs game Sunday, and so I got home last night, and Ann says, I want a hot dog . And sh in Chicago, hot dogs are like an art form. You gotta put tomatoes on them. Uh you gotta have the right Kaiser roll, you gotta have the right rolls. Last night we grilled vegetables and hot dogs. J Mac in seventy two degree nighttime weather, knocked down a couple, maybe a red stripe. Nobody lived bigger than me last night. Are we getting sponsored by red stripe? Can they send me a case? Um by the way, tomatoes on hot dogs, is that a real thing? Oh, and they were gloriously uh red. I mean, just juicy tomatoes and relish and onions. I haven't had hot dogs for dinner. I I don't think it says I was eight . And Ann's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're gonna grill vegetables. We're gonna make this. You think ball you I love having hot dogs at ballpark. She goes, it was unbelievable how good they were isn't like if you eat a hot dog, you lose like 18 seconds off your life or something or so process, something like that. Perhaps, but I gained a decade last night. That's how good these things were. J Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. All right, let's start with Victor Wembenyama, the most dominant player in the NBA this season. Dropped 4 1 and 16 last night. He had the third fastest double-double in the play-by-play era. I mean, that's just ridiculous. He had 10 and 10 through eight minutes in the first quarter last night, Connell. That's ridiculous. Um when he's hitting his three-point shot. It's game over. No, I mean it's not only game over , it's unbeatable. If he hits his threes, nobody's beating the Spurs. You just you I mean, literally, they are so good defensively, well coached, and when he's hitting threes, yeah, that is a that's like remember when Jokic and Denver won the title? You and I were both like, it was gonna be a dynasty. But they lost a bunch of ancillary parts, and Jokic wasn't good defender. And Jamal Murray is not a good defender. Wemby is I don't think he'll ever quite be Jokic offensively. Maybe not that kind of shooter. Oh, I don't know. But defensively, he's already the best defensive player by a stretch in the league. I mean the in modern era, we could say that. Just a quick note. Um what a time to be alive, right? There's a unicorn in baseball, Shohei Otani, pitching and hitting, and a true unicorn in Wembenyama in the NBA. We're never going to see two players like this again. Like it is pretty incredible. By the way, since February 1st, the Spurs are 25 and 1 with Wembin Yama. 25 and 1. Look at these numbers, Colin. Ridiculous. Wembenyama's putting up extraordinary numbers, I it's annoying that the media, the ink stain wretches are gonna give the MVP to SGA, the free throw merchant. But you know, so be it. This is the MVP. It should be. Yes, this is the MVP. Here's the thing . How many players ever could you say this about ? I mean, this is how good Wemby is . Almost everything Jordan could do, LeBron could do. Now, maybe not as well, but he could do it. There are things Wemby does that Michael and LeBron magic can't do. Shaq could not do this stuff. No. No, I mean he he is defensively , LeBron was Michael was a great defender. He didn't alter game plans. I mean, literally, this is how good Wemby is. Take the best players in league history . I mean, Bill Russell back in the 60s. Oh, come on. Well, that's right. But the players were smaller. The game wasn't as athletic. But I'm saying Wemby does stuff that Steph, LeBron, Magic, Bird, Michael Duncan can't do. Yeah. That is when you get into discussion of, well, that's the greatest basketball phenom of all time. Yeah. So when the playoffs are coming up, you know, the Knicks and Lakers are going to get the primetime spots, probably the Celtics. I'm just telling you, the Spurs are probably gonna be getting the premium games ahead of the Thunder, ahead of some of the other good teams. Anthony Edwards, Jokic. I know people are gonna be upset. I want to watch Wemby. I want to turn on my TV and see that guy cook every single night. All right, let's uh go to the next story. This is interesting stuff from Tracy McGrady, one of my favorite players in the early 2000s. I love T Mac , but he has had he has a take right now that the older generation of NBA players, they don't want me to name names, but you know who I'm talking about, um, he's been they have been very critical of the current era and T-MAX says it all comes down to money. And if you look at how Kevin Garnett was the highest paid player in 2001, Colin, he was making 19 million a year. 19 mil. There's now like 50 guys making more than KG made. Maybe more. And he T MAC thinks the reason all these guys are ordering on TV and podcasts ranting about the current era is because of the money. Jalen Brown's making extraordinary money. All these guys are look at this salary. Like, I don't see why they're hating, but go ahead. No, I think I think money's a big part of it. Money is something for men , it's just a thing. Career ascension, money is a big deal. But it's like 20 years ago, Colin. 25 years ago. You were played in the league. I'm sorry you weren't born later, bro. Well LeBron, who's a billionaire, and Michael Jordan, who still makes hundreds of millions a year on shoes, they're not bitter. But you can hear some of the commentators. Like I one of the things about the NBA, I do think it's funny to tell old NBA stories because it was just so lively in the 70s and 80s. But it's like one of the things that I don't love is this constant need to look in the rear view mirror for basketball. Like there's like like again, baseball lore and history is such a huge component to baseball, right? But what makes baseball great now is you can go on the air like you and I do and talk about the current players, not Mickey Mantle. And that's that to me is one of the healthiest parts of baseball is I got Bryce Harper, I got Otani, I got the Dodgers, I got the Yankees . The players are unbelievable. In the NBA, so many of the old guys, all they want to talk about is the old basketball. And four guys on the court couldn't shoot a three. The players now are so much more skilled. The ball handling and shooting today. Go back to the Knicks Pacer series. Take out Reggie Miller . Was there one more pure shooter in the entire remaining nine stars. Detlov Shrimp, obviously. No, I'm kidding. But you that's a great point because baseball, oh, who are the best nine of all time? Make your team. And it's like Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Lou Gary. And I'm like, what modern players are amazing. What are we doing? I don't understand that with baseball. You go to basketball and the old I mean, a lot of people I don't even put Bill Russell in like my top ten. He won a lot. He was great in his era. Well, I mean, I don't know what he's doing now. What what's Bill Russell in the NBA now? Like I 'm not knocking his games. Well, it at the time, I mean he was a He made the San Francisco Dons a college basketball dynasty. I mean he was for his time. That's why I don't think you can compare eras. But but I will say right now, I I think the thirty for thirties on Spike Lee and Reggie Miller, I watched that series. It was a free throw shooting contest. I mean it was 73 68 . Yeah. Collins basketball scores more than that now. And by the way, Cooper Flag is about as big as Bill Russell was. Cooper Flag. It was like a point guard now. Does everything. Anyways, let's finally, let's wrap things up, Colin with the NFL. Interesting little story here in that uh Sean Manning is uh uh he's a uh Eagles hired Sean Manion, the former Packers offensive assistant as their OC, and he's never called place . Okay? However, Matt LaFleur knows Manion well and believes he will crush it in Philly because of his work ethic. Adding his only concern will be dealing with a media circus in the city of Brotherly Love. Now, I know you're a big WIP listener, and they are panicking about Mania never calling plays, dealing with AJ Brown, maybe broken Jalen Hurts. Just because somebody's never done something, I mean Sean McVay had never been a head coach. That doesn't mean he can't do it. So I I I I don't I mean well it's interesting because the Eagles are a contender. They have a first time play call. The Broncos are a contender. They have a first-time play caller. Young guys, Sean Manny and Davis Webb . Seahawks have a new offensive coordinator. A lot of newness among the top teams. Um the Rams, of course, are retaining the great in the bay. Yeah, I I think listen the the the Eagles are very offensive coordinator dependent. That's not what the Chiefs and the Rams and the Niners are. So like you' thinkd oh you guys are talking about coordinators. The Eagles are coordinator dependent. Fantastic. You know, Kellen Moore, really good. Well they don't hang because the head coach and the quarterback are not to me not elite enough to just carry a a C plus coordinate. J Mac with the news . Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie New s. No, it yeah, I was thinking this last night about uh you you start looking right now at basketball between college and the pro. You know, one of the great things that's happened to baseball is the international stars are just I mean they're they're remarkable players. I mean the Dodgers solved their bullpen, their starting pitching. I mean, Otani wasn't hitting against the Phillies, and you have these international players, it's crazy. You watch Illinois play. Sports now, like soccer was always, international soccer was always global. And then basketball, you'd have guys from overseas, but they were, you know, you'd get maybe two guys in the league overseas that were really respec ted is you look at college basketball now. They I I read a story a year ago, they were thinking about shutting down a Spanish league. I don't know if that's true, but that that that the American colleges were just raiding rat ing like Spain for the top players. Well, they're all over here now. The other thing I think that i is true is that um the American public , it could be restaurants or it can be sports . People know quality . And in the last two years, now you could say, well, they've changed the television rating system, but the the ratings haven't gone up slightly. And the ratings aren't going up massively for everything. Is that the for years and years I used to say college basketball is tough to watch. Well, I mean the NBA guys don't play any defense. The reason college basketball teams could full court press you is because only two guys could handle the ball. You know, I'm watching Michigan. They got three or four guys, including Mar of the center, who are elite pass ers. You didn't have that ten years ago. You may have one great passer, one great ball handler. Just the reality of these international players that come in for Illinois, these college teams now, now NBA teams have five guys that can handle the ball . At least four on the floor. You can't have two non-scorers, non-shooters in the NBA. You'll get exposed. You can maybe have one if he's a great defender like Draymond Green. College basketball, you know, about ten years ago, it felt like every I I'm watching Michigan and Illinois and some of these college Arizona. You got Arizona's got seven guys who can handle the ball like pros, and five guys that can shoot like pros. So the American public is the part of the rating surge is the quality's much better. It doesn't take people very long to figure out. You know, you'll see these restaurant groups in Chicago, there's two or three major restaurant groups, and they've got fifteen restaurants, and all of them crush. Why? Because those restaurant groups know what the hell they're doing. They're well funded, they hire the best people and they retain them. People aren't loyal to restaurant groups necessarily. They're loyal to good food. And if you make the best hot dog in Chicago, the best steak or the best lasagna, it's gonna work. And if you don't, you're you're out of you're out of business. 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