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From THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, more on Duke's epic collapseMar 30, 2026

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio dot com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's hour two. We're in Chicago, 73 degrees today. Breakout . Short sleeve shirts and the volleyball games. It is beautiful here. We're getting into you know it it's honestly it's like a midwest Malibu everywhere . All right, Ryan Rosillo Bar, stool Sports, is gonna be joining us in about five minutes every Monday at this time. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Had a pretty good week. Here we go. Where Colin was right. Well, Michigan, I had Michigan getting to the Final Four and winning it, and right now they look as good as anybody. Um the you know, let's be honest, the Big Ten is on fire. But when you watch Michigan, they' the onlyre team that checks every box. Dominant defensive center, NBA guys, elite passing, three-point shooting, best passing team in college basketball in a long time, and the hottest coach on the market, Michigan probably an easy call. Where Col in was wrong. You know I love the old school coaches. Well, they got kicked to the curb in the Elite Eight. They left for the early bracket special. Uh now it's the young guys. Dan Hurley, I guess, qualifies as a bit older, but uh Tommy Lloyd and Dusty May in one of the matchups. I love my old coaches, but the truth is uh Dusty May and Tommy Lloyd are elite recruiters, and it has paid off. Where Colin was right. I said when the NIL came out, the Big Ten's got more money, and I think they've got better coaching. The SEC was 0 and 6 against the big 10 in the tournament, and a lot of the games weren't close. When Iowa beat Florida, to me, that was a real eye-opener because Iowa doesn't even have big NIL money. They were like 15th of the Sweet 16 teams in spending on NIL between the three straight Natties in football and 6-0 in this tournament against the SEC. There is a new sheriff in town. Where Colin was right. I've said tanking is not the number one concern for the NBA, but commissioners freak out when you say the word. And I was reading a column this morning, uh none of the NBA's three anti-tanking proposals would actually create a full stop for tanking. And my take has always been: if you're not gonna allow other ways to acquire Wemby, then people are going to tank. And people are going to take the fines. NBA owners are billionaires. That is glove compartment money. If you're going to get an all-time great player, I mean, look at this draft. The B YU, AJ DeBonte, you got Peterson, you got Boozer. This draft goes like nine guys deep. Darius Acuff out of Arkansas. That guy's gonna pop immediately. If you're not gonna allow, like the NFL, the ability to trade anybody any time, tanking's not going anywhere. Where Col in was wrong. Uh I can't get AJ Brown figured out. I I would have traded him two years ago. It's a run team, but Howie Roseman came out this weekend and said, you know what? He's a member of the Eagles. We love him. Is he just trying to use that as leverage? I don't know, but it's a run team. He's reading books on the sidelines. I mean he I think he's under he's not undervalued. He's underused. Jalen Hurts, you know, you've got a quarterback. The Eagles self admit they would like to throw less than twenty-seven times a game, but every time you ask him, every time you ask him, they tell you he's here for the long term . Where Colin was right. Well I said two games ago, the Knicks are not a championship team. The Celtics are going to win the East. It's either the Celtics, the Spurs, or OKC, and the Knicks are 0-2. Since I said that, they're 0-5 against Detroit and OKC. They've got two big issues. At the end of games, their two best players, Cat and Brunson, you can hunt them defensively. And they're a bit of a finesse team where if you're a physical team like Detroit is, even without Cade Cunningham, you can give them big problems. So I I like the Knicks, but I do think they have to take a big swing in the offseason, probably moving Kat, because I would never move Jalen Brunson. Where Colin was right. I've been a defender of Rob Manfred. He gets a lot of flack, but he nailed it with a new The umpires get it right. But the sport now moves quickly. The APS, ABS system moves quickly. You do have to bat your helmet very quickly, or you'll have a situation yesterday, like you saw. But I think it's a home run, and I think the unintended benefit, it's created a new level of strategy that's really fun. Where Colin was right. Geno Smith is our guy. We've got 100% confidence. Oh, give me a break. There's not a Jet fan alive who thinks that. Led the NFL in interceptions last season, has led the NFL in interceptions since 2022. I feel that Aaron Glenn, and I said this eight months ago, I would prefer offensive coaches. I do think there's some great young defensive coaches. D'Amico Ryan's Mike McDonald. We'll see what Jesse Minter does. But man, they they can be tone deaf to offense. Callin right, calling wrong. So uh Ryan Rosillo is going to be joining us in a second. Do we have the do we have the radio call of uh UConn beating Duke. Do we have that by chance, guys? Let's play this. I haven't heard this . Back to Saar now ahead to Caden Boozer and Yukon got a steal. Caravan for Mullins. Long three. He got it. Oh, he got it. He hit it. He hit the long three pointer from the log o with three tenths of a second left to go. I don't believe it. You've got us taking the lead. Oh man. Well, somebody that knows Stores Connecticut and the state of Connecticut and the Yukon program now with Barstool Sports. Our friend Ryan Rosillo is joining us. And you know it it's just right, you know, you can appreciate this. I tell people, you have no idea yukon is the center of basketball universe. At one point their football team was also going to a fiesta bowl and they're in a cow pasture. It's if you've never been there, it's hard to explain . What do you think is when you talk to your NBA guy, because he was offered the Lakers gig, Ryan, what do you make of Dan Hurley um like his secret sauce? Is is it schemes, is it recruiting, is it intensity? They just don't lose in March . What is it? Yeah, this run is ridiculous. I mean, the last time they lost when they made it to a Final Four was 2009. They're 18-0 from the sweet 16 on. And that's what happens. You win a couple titles, so it's a one-on-one last year and then four ones this year. So, you know, I've had Hurley on, I'm sure you've had him on as well. I mean the thing all started with Calhoun, maybe the eighty eight NIT and then ninety, they were the one seed when Leitner beat them in the regional final, you know, and that sent Duke to the Final Four. So like from 90 on, they didn't make it to a Final Four until 1999. So there was this Calhoun moment that almost like a decade goes by, which is easy to forget before they actually won the first title that that set them on this path. But there is you know, you could go to Calhoun's intensity, and it's always important to remember Kevin Ollie's intensity. But you know, we talk about culture all the time in sports . And every guy that's introduced at the press conference, he's behind the table in front of the logo, maybe at the lecture, and he's like, Oh, we're gonna have this culture, we're gonna have this culture. And usually all these guys are completely lying to them.sel Soves, like they don't know how to do it . They know what to say, but they don't know how to execute it. We see it all the time. And with Hurley, I just when you watch these games and you see teams get bag get uh down big, you can see what the kids where it's like, well, we weren't supposed to win this thing anyway. And for UConn, they came out in the half and they were like, hey, maybe if we just play tougher defense, they played with such defensive intensity because they still never made any shots until the last couple threes, they were still abysmal from three-point range. And there was this also this moment too where there was a sideline for from Tracy Wilson where you heard uh Hurley say, hey, the momentum is changed the momentum is changed and I was kind of like I don't really know that it's changed we're just in the second half and that was four minutes into the second half so whatever it is as crazy as he can be in the sideline. I think part of that that crazy, good crazy is being so delusional and getting every single kid to believe you. You know it's interesting, and I I don't like banging on coaches. I think John Shire is very good with schemes and very good recruiting. The downside to being a great brand like Duke, which has a beautiful campus and is legendary, is your teams get young. I mean, they're they're they get five star guys. And whereas Michigan and Yukon, they can go get they they they're great programs, but Duke has this, you know, Lakers feel to it where I'm watching them yesterday and again I think Shire's a good coach. But when you have a young team, Ryan, you gotta call timeouts. Like th there was the Boozers had Well you can't do that with 18 year olds like in March. I thought Shire didn't have a great moment. Is that too critical or is it fair? Um I I probably was more frustrated with them last year, just not being able to inbound the ball against Houston that many times. Now I think there was a a laxness to them. There were certain things that they were doing at the top where they're looking at it as like, hey, I'm going to be out here and then I'm going to swing it back to the top and that's how we're going to start our offense. And when the defense knows you're going to do it, like there has to be some intention. There has to be a better angle on that. And that's on players. And in this spot with Caden Boozard, like he's a freshman. He sees two open teammates down there. All I have to do is get the ball to them. So, you know, even though they're younger players, I still look at a lot of stuff that happens with the players and go like, how is this some fundamental flaw with John Shire's approach? You could say that maybe it'd be nice to have a senior out there. I'm sure he would love to have a senior out there. But Shire's not a good coach. He is a great coach. And he's gonna win a national championship at Duke. It's just to have these two losses on this stage. And on top of that, Colin, I'd ask you like, what seems to rally people more in sports than a Duke loss? People seem to love Duke losing in a tournament more than anything else that I can think. It might have the highest approval rating. Like if you ran for office, Colin, because I know you're not gonna let Stephen A be the only guy that thinks about being president. I just wonder if you would say, hey, I don't know about I don't know about this, I don't know about that, but what I can tell you is as long as Duke keeps losing in the tournament, you you know, oh, can I get your vote? And I think you would win. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna leave Stephen A. Smith with all the political aspirations. The um so I went and watched Michigan play yesterday. And I watched it from uh you know a corporate suite, blah blah went with a cousin. Uh I it wasn't my call. I I like to be with the people. Anyway, I'm upstairs. Yeah, I know. That doesn't sound like you at all . Michigan passes the ball like an NB A team. And I'm not joking. Their half-court ball movement, they lead the tournament in assists by a long margin. They're shooting over 40% on threes. And I think they've used the, I like the N IL because I think Cinderella wasn't winning this thing anyway. It's it's it's given teams like Michigan another great NBA player or a UConn . I'm I'm telling you from a half court offense, I mean I I think Michigan's the team. Uh do you or do you I know they're not even favored against Arizona. I'm like, I don't know how you defend them collegiately with their bigs. I love the way they're passing. I think you're right on with that. And they can invert. Like they can bring out their big guys. Mara 's passing is terrific. Lendon Borg. I I didn't really love their guards and I get into college basketball late. Uh you know, it's it's hard for me to do both every single night, but when I got into it late, you're like, all right, I don't know that I really like their guards that much. And Lendeborg, you know, if he were nineteen, he'd be the number one draft pick, but he's gonna be twenty-four. It's just not the way that stuff works. His perimeter play has been so spectacular on top of his slashing, his shot making all this different different stuff. Like they can play, they can start their offense with huge players where, you know, some of the guard stuff that they do at times. Cadot like has been really good, but I maybe I'm I'm emphasizing too much of the regular season Duke game where I thought there was some shot selection in there that I didn't really like. So I think Michigan's terrific. Arizona has seven guys that every single game you watch Arizona, it can be any of the seven guys having a six, seven-minute stretch where it feels like they're taking over the game. Multiple ball handlers to close you out with. Kop ee comes out and just dominates as a freshman. Kryvas has a ton of size. Karchenkov has been around. And Bradley's the conference player of the year. And sometimes you don't even notice him. And it's not because of his approach to the game . It's because they have all these other things. So look, certainly Michigan is good enough to win this game, but I don't know that I've seen a team that can attack in so many different ways as Arizona. So um, you know, I I've I 've asked people about this. It is such a good draft. I mean, the kid from Arkansas, Darius Acuff, uh, he's small, not much of a defender. But if you, you know, again, you bring him to the right NBA team that's got a rim protector and wings and and three D's, he's an automatic. I mean, catch and shoot, drive and shoot, pass. He's just a glorious player offensively. But the story is going to be Peterson because earlier in the year I was told to watch him, and I mean, three times up the floor, you're like, Oh, that's what Kobe probably looked like at eighteen years old. Like it was just crazy. But he's got durability issues. He admits it got into his head. He plays a little bit in the silo. You don't get a lot of assists. He kind of he's playing for himself. I today if I'm a GM, I lose sleep with all the durability stuff. Or is this just overplayed? He's young. Where do you land on it with him? Yeah, I think the league, and like I talk to everybody, but it seems like the league is less fascinated or worried by the whole thing. Cause it like it was a media thing where hey, it's number one pick. I think a lot of us do come by late to college basketball, drop in, and then you go, what's going on with that guy? Like, yeah, he's he's tapping out. He doesn't seem to want to play in games. I think the more alarming thing, or maybe it's not even alarming, it it's just that when he finally started playing regularly to the close of the season he wasn't playing as well. Uh but I would I'd offer up like there's a shot that he hits against St. John's in the very beginning of the game. Like he comes around, he has this catch and shoot three where it just looks exactly like what an NBA star is supposed to do. Where you you can't help but go, oh my god. Like that's that's why this guy's being talked about on top of like the 60 points going up against AJ in a high school showcase game, which is what all the draft guys will point to. But like if you had watched that game, you wouldn't even be talking about this kind of stuff. Um I also think it's important to look at like sc ores, young scores, like do they default to just scoring every single time to try to figure out a way to solve the game? And I don't think Peterson shows that uh at all. I I don't I don't think he's a selfish player. I think he's somebody who wants to move the ball. He looks at the defense and goes, they're loaded up against me. I'm going to swing it and let somebody else go and I'm going to move around. So I think there's some understanding stuff from Peterson that's really good. But you're totally right. Like with AJ's size and his output with, Booz er's efficiency being like historically off the charts, and Acuff looking exactly like an NBA guard, where you go, okay, so nobody can stay in front of him, and he's super strong, and he can change his hands at the rim to deal with taller guys, which is usually the thing that like sends you to Europe or makes you NBA All-Star. ACUF has those kinds of things. You do wonder, and I mean this is almost like a segment idea, but you go like it would a team if they were being totally honest be like, I'd rather have like the second or third pick? Just like somebody else has to take the Peterson problem off. I mean, the answer's no, but in a moment of honesty, I wonder if somebody would ever just go like I thought about that. That J Mac . I I'll give J Mac credit. He said that last week. He goes, I guarantee you there's a GM that's like, just give me the second pick. I'll take him. I don't want the pressure. So I want to ask you this. Um I think three teams can win the title. I think it's the Celtics. I think their culture, their coaching. Missoula's become very good. They've got veterans. Uh they, you know, they got old at the post. Now they're younger in the front line. I think OKC Wemby's ridiculous. I think he helps the offense more than people think. He's obviously great defensively in OKC. The team that people fall in love with, it's the Lakers. And I've made this argument is that I the guy I always throw out, I said, if you just had Jaden McDaniels from Minnesota, a catch and shoot guy who can defend, I would give them credit. They don't have outside of Marcus Smart, their top six guys are all lobsid ed. They either can't defend or they don't want to defend. But I think you can get away with that in the regular season when you come into town. I don't you know, I don't get a practice. You got Austin having a great year, and LeBron and Rui and Luke, they're and Ayton. They're hard to defend on a Tuesday night when you're playing a back to back. But I don't think they translate to a playoff team because they have three guys I can hunt. And a Chris Finch is gonna say, you know, SGA ant when you force Luca to defend. I don't think they're a guarante ed I don't think they're guaranteed to win one series in the West. I think the first series will be tough. Well where are you and the Lakers? If they play Houston, I'm picking the Lakers or to play in Denver or Minnesota, I'm pick I'm picking the other teams. Um, it's it's that simple. Well, I think we agree for the most part. I I think this run has been great. I mean Lucas stepped it up. It's the reason why everybody freaks out when anybody thinks would even be traded be like, Hey, I don't know if he's gonna age well. It's like like okay. All right. Um he's he's one of the most unstoppable players that we've ever seen. I still think like I'll think of playoff games and going, hey, 17 seconds left, score tied, whatever score you want to come up with, but like a close game, like get me a really good look. I don't know I don't know if anyone's ahead of Luca. I I really think he's that special at getting his own space, using his body. He doesn't have to go fast. He doesn't need a screen and then he has the passing on top of everything else. But um I think the LeBron thing has been really interesting, Colin, because it's almost this praise of like he's accepted his role. And it's like, well he's accepted this role because he's he's finally it finally happened. Yeah. Where the decline is here. Now, maybe with more days off , uh maybe with more specific game planning, but like LeBron at this point, I I think there'll be like the huge playoff game, but then there'll also be a playoff game where it feels like the diminishing athleticism and him being hunted hunted defensively is gonna show up in certain matchups. I mean if we're like what are we doing? We're t I can still be respectful of the greatness while also breaking down what I think the twenty twenty six NBA playoffs are going to look like. Yeah. And I I don't I'm worried about that. You know, I'm worried about that with the collection of all the other guys. I mean Ayton's been a little bit better, but he's not somebody that I necessarily want to bank on. I think Houston's closing offense is still such a mess. Like I do not trust them at all. That I picked the Lakers in that one. The size Minnesota stuff. Sure, Aiden's there now, but I think that'd be another problem. And look, Denver is better this year, despite the defensive numbers, despite the ter rible clutch numbers that don't make any sense. They're always one of the best clutch teams in the league. They've been abysmal. But if you're telling me like a seven game series against the Lakers and what the Denver Nuggets did last year to OKC when we weren't even that excited about him a year ago and Gordon's hamstring and they take OKC to seven. I I'm cooler on Denver than say last summer, Colin, but I I think it'd be a shock for the majority of people out there to pick the Lakers against them, even if By the way, are you either uh got your arm in a sling because you've benched too much, or you've got a camera and you're just sightseeing Manhattan Beach. What is that what is that thing there ? Well, uh I don't know if you saw that the Louis Vuitton summer line dropped. I'm sure you get the alerts too, but uh no. It's uh it's a sling. We did some um weighted wide grip pull-ups yesterday at our our equinox out here and uh the very top I felt something I've never felt before but we're gonna be back and uh shout out to Mike Greenberg back in better than ever . I'll be fine. I mean, look you you know you,'re not a young guy. Stuff breaks. Trust me, fifty-five. Stuff starts breaking. Rosillo is great seeing you. Barstool sports, he's on fire. Uh at Ryan Rosillo. Ryan A. Rosillo. Good seeing you, buddy. Yeah, good to see you. Uh he does great work. Does great stuff. Somebody whose opinion I trust always. See, J Mac, you're out there hooping it. Bro, he's Philly's wearing a sling and you're always limping into work. I'm out here having red striped beers in the best shape of my life, living life to the fullest. I can't believe so he's doing pull ups and he he threw out his shoulder. Poor guy. I've s by the way, I he used to go to my gym. I'm gonna text him here in a sec. He's jacked, obviously. You know, I'm just cut up. You you like to think I'm I'm ripped. He's actually jacked. That guy lifts a lot of weights. I can't believe he got hurt. I I have seen Ryan. You don't want to stand next to him and like the team picture when you win the championship. Because he just dwarfs you. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Well, a lot of guys dwarf you, but that's not that's another segment. You love taking jabs at me, buddy. You're the Brock Purdy of Talk Show home. Oh, you get on heaters, but you get dinged up a lot. So I get to the show and then we go to the Super Bowl. Is that what you're saying? Um All right, great stuff. Uh uh Ryan Day, Ohio State coach, who what do they have? 31 guys gonna get drafted in the first three rounds. Uh will be joining us. We're live in Chicago. It's the herd . One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day. Heard to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. 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Watch Michigan pass and shoot. I mean again, you go back, you go back to Duke Butler, was that 15 years ago? Duke Butler shot 39%. And then Butler played UConn the next year. They shot thirty-one percent. Nobody could hit open jumpers. It was awful. It was unwatchable. It was garbage. Now the ratings are exploding because the quality is better. I said this with college football, watching Indiana and Miami . Like m the ability to go and get for a good program with a great coach, a really high end quarterback. I mean, college football's issue was always it was as fun to watch as the quarterback play was. Well, now all these big brands can have young five-star players, but they can go get a four-star quarterback from a mid-major. I mean, I thought Indiana and the Miami Hurricanes, I thought that was the closest I'd ever watched a college football game that looked like an NFL game? The play calling, much more sophisticated, more motion, more sets. I I like college, but I like high-end college and the NIL is jet fueled the biggest program. I mean you're watching Illinois and their pace, that's an NBA pace. You watch Michigan's passing, that's NBA passing. So I know a lot of you are like, oh, I love college. I like excellent. I got nothing against public golf courses, but if you're giving me a choice, I'd take Augusta, right? I that's why I don't mind dynasties. I want great athletes playing alongside other great athletes. I'm watching Ohio State's defense last year. You got like five NFL guys first, second round. J Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. All right, uh, let's work at some NFL draft quickly. Colin Fernando Mendoza, presumptive number one pick, less than four weeks away from the draft. And according to Daniel Jeremiah, Mendoza has been getting to work with Brian Greasy to install Clint Kubiak's offense. And uh Jeremiah added that Mendoza is full speed ahead on making sure he's up to speed when he's eventually drafted by the Raiders. I'm sure some of this is just Mendoza geeking out on being a pro, but I think some of it is probably this nonsense that oh yeah, maybe they go get Kirk Cousins to start and Mendoza will come in when he's ready, which I think is total nonsense. But um I I like I like Mendoza. He's ready he's ready to go. This is not some young kid who's inexperienced. Three year college starter. Let's go get him under center week one. Yeah, I mean I this is why I think he is, I think a lot of times we play pay so much attention to the physical part of quarterback play. But uh give an example. Aaron Rodgers no longer runs. Aaron Rodgers isn't that committed in the offseason, but Aaron Rodgers , just on intellect and situational excellence, goes to the Steelers and they went from an awful red zone offense to one of the top five or six in the league. Why how? They didn't have a top five O line, they didn't have a top five re receiving core. So much of this sport is above the shoulders. And yes, it's great to have, you know, a a a big arm and be able to move, but Lamar Jackson's not winning playoff games. You know, I'm not blaming anybody, but if you start looking at what works in this league, it's great offensive coaching, it's total commitment. It is, you know, it's just doing stuff off the field. And we we we I mean again, Drake May's got great physical tools. Uh Mahomes has great physical tools. But even a Mahomes, if you give him no run game and a bad offensive line, can get walloped. And I so when I look at Mendoza, everybody's like, well, he's a little stiff, he's not that mobile. All I know is he's big, has great ball pla cement, and is like Brady obsessed with the sport. I'm good. That that's a that's a pro bowl level quarterback if he gets any coaching. Totally agree. Uh and I'm sure some people's heads exploded when you said Lamar Jackson's not winning playoff games. I just did a quick check. Three and five in the playoffs so ccer. No, you're right. Lamar doesn't win in the playoffs. I love him, and he's the most mobile quarterback in the history of the sports. Yes. That's great. But it it's my whole point is Josh Allen, never been to a Super Bowl. He's the greatest athlete that's ever played quarterback. John Elway , before he had a run game, was getting blown out in Super Bowls. You can talk about all the physical gifts. Are you obsessed by football? Do you have the right offensive coach who lets you play, but has structure. So much of this sport is before the game starts. And that's not to say that Lamar and Josh Allen and John Elway weren't committed, but it they're all ridiculously hyper at hletic. And Josh can't even Josh and Lamar can't get to Super Bowls. And I would argue they're the two most talented quarterbacks in the last 10 years. You know who did get to a Super Bowl? Small guy, brainiac athletic Brock Purdy, who's five and two in the playoffs. Just thought I'd toss that in there since you love dinging him. All right, let's move on to a quarterback who's won a Super Bowl, Matthew Stafford, Colin. I feel like we have this discussion every year. Uh is Stafford gonna come back? How long is he gonna stay? Um so as of right now, he's very excited about this Rams team. And people are saying, well, maybe Stafford could stay for multiple years, or does he walk away after winning the Super Bowl at SoFi this year. Uh here's McVay talking about uh all things Stafford and the Rams. That's always the great challenge, is you want to make sure that you're maximizing the opportunity you have with him while also not being naive to hey, I'm hopeful to be with the Rams for a long time. And you know, he's gonna be able to play as long as he's able to, whether that's one, two, more, who knows? He might, you know, be one of those guys that lays late into his forties, and I wouldn't have a problem with that. But those are dialogues and discussions that we have a lot. Um, and it's always figuring out that balance of you know, continuing to build and take advantage of what a unique player you have while also not being naive to uh eventually we are not gonna have the luxury of having him as our guy. Well, I think when they made the Trent McDuffie move and had to give up multiple draft picks, they told you, because I thought they would draft the backup quarterback in this draft, but the Trent McDuffie move told you we're going all in. That that tells me Stafford's coming back for two more years minimum when the Trip McDuffie move. Because if he wasn't, what you would do is you would keep your draft capital, you would like build a fortress around Stafford, but build a team ready to move on from Staff ord. You're giving up draft capital. You know you're gonna have to pay Stafford a lot. McDuffie's a Super Bowl getter. That that to me tells you Stafford's around for years. Look at look at those stats on the screen. Stafford aging like fine wine . Then again, in his 20s, he was in the Detroit Lions, one of the most losing organizations in professional sports history. You go to the Rams and McVay and all of a sudden you're cooking. Seven and three in the playoffs. They are they have the best team. Super Bowls at SoFi. Well, I mean, listen, everything's lining up for the Rams this year. Look at look at go look ahead. This is an interesting think piece. Stafford wins a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers, Stafford . Who had the better career? All time. Oh, you go Stafford. Yeah, you go Stafford. Okay, but but that I I think your opinion , because Roger Aaron didn't start well and hasn't necessarily finished well . Stafford went to a losing organization, but he could end up if he plays this year and next, he could end up with the last eight years of his career being Pro Bowl, every single one of them. With a great playoff record, better than Aaron and more Super Bowls than Aaron. I keep saying this. No player in pro football, outside of maybe Sam Darnold, but no great quarterback in my lifetime can literally flip the narrative and go from the 20th best ever to like top ten with the Super Bowl. Because we all know, we've said this for years, he may throw the best ball in the league. Yeah. Um that's interesting. So Roger's peak where he was collecting MVPs was amazing. But Stafford's been more consistent. And I think this matters, Colin, the whole locker room stuff. Stafford every is beloved everywhere he goes. People like him. He's a n ice guy. Rogers is a little less of that. Um, I don't if Rogers is watching this, he's probably like, damn it, I'm coming back. But you're not winning. You're not winning a Super Bowl with the Steelers. You're not even contending. So yeah, I I would probably agree with you. Um sounds like you're sharpening some off-season takes there, huh? Uh final story to the UFL, Colin. Um, week one in the books. How about this one? We had our first four-point field goal, a 60 -yarder. Here's the call from Defenders Blackhawks. This is gonna be a 60-yard field goal. Folks, it'll be for four points as part of the new rules in the UFL. McCrane got it up . They score four .

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