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Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern, nine AM to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd at Fox Or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Rad College basketball right now feels more like college football, where I get a mix of a five-star guy, freshman, and then you're Ohio State, and you can go get Caleb Downs. And now, you know, he he's an NFL player playing on Saturdays, and Ryan Day, the head coach of Ohio State, is now joining us live here on a Monday. All right, this is uh great seeing you again. This is an exciting time. And we were talking about the NIL and the the the way to do it is you can't just go pay for stars. You're gonna need a guard, you're gonna need a number two tight end. It's a delicate balance. You can't you also you don't want to discrew with your culture. The fascinating player with you is Caleb Downs. So I So I watched him last year, and I remember saying on the air, I think I'd make him my number one pick last year. And then this year you had so many players develop, Sonny Styles, Reese, that I felt like I see Caleb Downs and mock drafts going 12, and I'm like, are you people insane ? I just look at him and I think that is a pro bowl player potentially. Tell me what I don't see about Caleb Downs because I think he's been overshadowed on your defense because you have so many other emerging players. What does he do for the Buckeyes that I maybe I don't see ? Well he he makes an impact uh i i in all phases. So I mean w when it comes time to to play the run, I mean he is in the box at the line of scrimmage making plays, but then he has the ability uh because of his ball skills and his ch ange of direction to cover at a high level. And and I think to me, you know, what what you've recognized is just his impact on the game. But what's harder to see is the impact he has on the guys around him. And I think what makes great players is when they make the guys around them better, he does that. I mean, not only just the way he handles himself, but the communication on the field, getting everybody right into the right call, you know, talking to some of the NFL personnel who are here in our pro day last Wednesday, you know, that they shared that. They said that, you know, talking to him, he he might have just turned twenty one years old, but it was like talking to somebody who'd been in the NFL for a long time. Yeah. The the one player of yours who's obviously a physically, you know, you you're Ohio State. You're not recruiting guys that can't play. What worries me about Arvell Reese a little bit is that he's going into pro football and he doesn't quite have a defined position . I'm not saying he can't learn it, but it it would worry me, you know, and Ryan, I talk about this. I love recruiting. And I have seen so many five-star guys go to programs and they're just freaks. But they don't, they're not really great at anything, they're just ath And I think the higher levels of football you go, even in college, it's it's hard to make an impact if you're positionless. Is it reasonable to say I love him athletically? He's been well coached, but I worry about what what is he exactly? I does that worry you . Well for us, when he first got here, he came from Glenville and you know Ted Gann and you know they, they know how to prepare guys to come in here and work. And so when he first got here, he came in as a linebacker but but spent about a month and a half at at defensive end and then transitioned back to linebacker and, because of his mindset, you know, he was able to use both of those skills in this past year. I think he can do both. I think that's what people are excited about is the versatility. But the thing that's amazing to me is Arvell is still 20 years old. He's got so much football ahead of him. And his length, his power, uh, and just the way he plays, to me, is going to translate well. I think the thing to your point is, you know, where does somebody dra ft them? What scheme do they want to use them for? And then and then he will quickly learn what that is, and he has the skill set to be able to do it at a high level. And he's only going to get better. This is a young player. Uh he can run and hit. He has great length and he certainly can play in the pass game. So there's a lot of good receivers every draft. I think this draft has one wide receiver that's a one in the NFL, and that's Carnell Tate. I think I think there's a lot of good guys. Uh Lemon at USC is highly productive. You know, there's the kid at Arizona State. There's a lot of good receivers every year. It's a it the game's never been more skilled. You guys have become literally wide receiver you in the country. And you have, I mean, it it's um JSN has a style, Harrison's different than a Buka. I mean, it's just all shapes, sizes, styles. What is Carnell Tate to you ? What is the one thing in the receiver room that Carnell did maybe better than anybody else you had at Ohio State? Yeah, I think when you're trying to compare him, um he he's sort of a combination to me of Garrett uh Wilson uh and Chris Olave and a little bit of Jameson Williams in there. Like he's got the length. He's a really good route runner, strong hands. Uh you see him play physical uh during his career here um and another guy that's coming out in three years. So again, a lot of football ahead of him, um, knows how to track a ball, very intelligent, really good football IQ. I think you can see that when he runs his routes. Um, you know, he knows how to set a guy up, he can create separation, and then he can play on contact. Um and I think the way he runs his routes downfield, uh you're gonna see the way that the NFL game is played where you know after five yards, there's no contact. You know, because of the clean route running that he that he that he's shown, uh it's gonna translate and he'll be a number one wide receiver in any team he walks into. People are reticent to draft linebackers too early, but you had Matt Patricia, Sonny Styles. Matt's one of the smartest defensive minds in football, college or pro. Is there a comp for Sonny Styles at the next level? Like what did Matt make of him? Yeah, no, Matt Matt loved working with him. I for me, you know, I I was at Boston College with Luke Heekley and then coached against someone who was with the with the Panthers and and that's obviously um you know a a great comp in terms of you know what what Luke did as a player. But I think what what they have in common is Sonny started safety. You know, Luke played safety when he was at St. X when we were recruiting him at Boston College. And so you know he started up high and then came down to the line of scrimmage. And I think that that Sonny's that same way. He was an excellent basketball player coming out of high school, another young guy, you know, he reclassified, so didn't play his senior year of high school and and played safety, you know, early on in his career here, but then found himself playing a linebacker position. And so because of that, he understands how it all fits back there, just like Luke did. And we can diagnose plays fast, and he has the length and anticipation to play fast. So you played against Fernando Mendoza. I don't know ever see a sixteen and oh team again. It was magical. They won multiple games late. Um they could have lost four times. And I and I said I love Kurt Sign etti, but y the Mendoza's making throws against you and Iowa and Oregon and Miami that most college guys can't make. He's making them on fourth down, back shoulder stuff. What jumped off on tape when you first saw Mendoza? You put put the film in for the Well you know somebody as good as he is. I mean there's there's multiple things. The first thing you you look at is he's got tremendous size. I mean he's a big guy when he stands in there. And when you saw some of the big runs he had, you know, people don't really talk about some of those runs, but but those were big and he stands in the pocket. Um I I I thought to your point he made a lot of clutch throws, whether it was third down throws, plays at the end of the game, red zone throws, uh the accuracy, throwing in in contested windows, um w was all like really impressive. Um and then obviously played clutch and then was consistent throughout the entire season. You know, he seems like a guy that that has a lot of intelligence in command because, you know, obviously once you get into the NFL, it's important, you know, the amount of information you can process at a high level to be successful uh you know, uh where where those guys are nowadays. Um I think when you combine all that together, um you know I think that's what you recognize when you watch his film. Another guy you saw is Ruben Bain, Miami, they talk about arm length. What do you make of that discussion? I guess there's something to it, obviously, or they wouldn't . What do you make of that? Yeah, well I th I think you look at everything. Anytime we're evaluating whether it's you know som,ebody who's in high school or maybe in the trans fer portal, you look at somebody who's who's in college. I I think you want to look at everything because what you're trying to do is you're trying to project out what they're gonna look like at the next level. Uh that being said, you know, for me, you know, the number one thing is production, uh competitiveness, uh toughness, you know, how they play. I mean put the film on and watch it. Um again, everything matters, but nothing's more important than production and competitiveness. All right, Ryan Day, Ohio State. You know, these days guys like you are recruiting it feels like money as much as players because of the NIL. Um it it's a big turnoff for some. You're obviously in a catbird seat. It arguably, I mean I would say right now, Ohio State's the best football program in America. Is um you would think the money's just you know, it's like a bank. Everybody just wants to be a buckeye and sign up. Is it kind of exhausting sometimes the new world for you of college football? Well we all have to adapt. And if we don't adapt, we die. But that's just how it works. I was telling somebody the other day I had a chance on a flight to watch that Netflix uh documentary on dinosaurs and the dinosaurs that didn't adapt, they all died off. So we all better figure it out. Because if we don't, we're gonna die. So anybody wants to throw up their hands and walk away, that's not gonna work. So we've got to solve the problem. That's the bottom line. Um I I think the thing that as coaches, we're just struggling with overall is just still trying to figure out how it all works. We know how the revenue share works, but certainly how these marketing deals work, you know, the things that are being, you know, whether approved or denied through NIL go it is is frustrating at the very least. Uh but we're gonna figure it out. And it all goes back to the type of people and the relationships. That's not gonna change. That's always been the same when it comes to recruiting. Well uh respect the heck out of you built a you've built a powerhouse. You're at the top of the sport right now in the first round. You're gonna hear from Ohio State over and over and over. Ryan, I hope you have a nice spring. You get time with the family, 'cause I know once the season starts, uh the grind begins in earnest. It's great seeing ya. Yeah, great to see you, Colin.. Much respect Thanks. All right. Ryan Day, great football coach at Ohio State. Seven years there. 82 and 12 . In the best football conference in the country. 82 and 12. Now that works for me. Herd moves to FS2. International friendly on FS 1 . Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my week ly MLB podcast inside the Parker for 22 minutes of pipe and hot baseball talk featuring the biggest names and newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe in analytics or the eye test, we 've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday. 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They will be in the final four against Illinois from the Big Ten. Illinois. Some people, some jabronies online are saying, Oh, Illinois had such an easy path because they didn't have to face the sixth seed North Carolina, or they didn't have to face the uh the one in Florida. Whatever. Uh, and then of course you got Michigan, Arizona. By the way, quick note on that game, Kong. So the Bible for college basketball analytics is Ken Pomeroy's website. In his database, going back about 29 years, Michigan versus Arizona is one of the three best matchups we've ever seen. Because these teams are so good and strong defensively, offensively, killing opponents. So this is really the game of the century, if you will, in college basketball. Yeah, I mean , I I I think first of all, Illinois beat Houston handily. Dominated them in Houston. Yeah, I mean that to me I I would say Iowa over Florida was the easily the biggest upset, but the way Illinois beat Houston and Houston could be number two. I thought Houston would win that game at home. Illinois also, their pace, they're going to give teams trouble. I I this is not a smart move by me, but I think I like Michig an and Illinois in the Natty. I really do. I agree. Um, now here's the other thing. Big Ten starting to dominate college football. Big Ten could have two teams in a national championship. Colin, I mean, I listen, I'm not tuning our own horn here, but this show was early on how we NIL has totally transformed college sports and the Big Ten is dominating. It's early, but they're dominating college basketball and college football. Yeah, they are. You're right. All right, let's move on to the NFL. Um, listen, I you know Atlanta Falcons are a fun team of mine. Kevin Safansky's a new coach. They've got uh Tua Tangova now at quarterback. But at the league NFL meeting, Stefansky, you know, Michael Penix is also in Atlanta, and we don't know who the starter is. Here's Stefansky talking about adding Tua, saying there's something to be said when you're fired. I can attest to that. You want to prove people wrong. So Stefansky gets run out of Cleveland, Tua gets run out of Miami, and they're now joining forces in Atlanta. I I think I think I don't know why this interests me so much, but I think it's really smart to have Penix and Tua the a comp for each other in the building. Like between the two of them on that fast track with Stefanski, winnable division, and nice weapons. Just say it out loud. Above average O-line , number one wide receiver, maybe the best back in the league, smart offensive, two-time coach of the year, fast track, good home field edge, winnable division. I have a weird feeling. You know me. I basically the Atlanta Falcons for me are like an ATM mach ine. I just I just lose money. There's no winning with me. But there is Stefansky, Tua , and again, Tua in the AFC, in a tough division that has Buffalo and the Jets in New England cold weather, I don't like. Yeah. Tua playing road games in Tampa, Carolina, in a dome in New Orleans with Penix? That's interesting there. Yeah, I like that. So our sandbagging staff came up with this interesting graphic. Highest percentage of giveaways per drive in the last two seasons, Colin. Number one is Tua , giving the ball away. Number two is my guy, Brock Burdy. Number three is your guy, Sam Darnold. I didn't know what to make of this. I was drilling down a little bit. I don't know. I'll let you go first. Giveaways per dri ve. Two was the worst, but Purdy and Darnold were also there followed by Trevor Lawrence and then Bryce Young and Junior. I think all of these guys, you know, Sam's a risk taker, so is Trevor Lawrence. Trevor used to have a fumble issue. I would have thought Gino would be number one. But yeah, I mean I don't look at Tua. My concerns with Tua are size and injuries, not turnovers. That that's not what I think of. See Brock Purdy, I worry about injuries. I don't worry about Brock Purdy's picks. I think he's a one of the things I like about Brock Purdy a lot is unlike Garoppolo, Purdy will throw the ball down the field. Like he is a gunsling er. And like you can knock like Tua and Purdy, my issues are not turnovers. Darnold , you know, and he had a great playoff run, but Darnold and Lawrence, I do think about turnovers because, again, they're first-round talent. They're big, strong guys, and they throw the ball into traffic. Bryce Young, we don't know if he's a long-term fit. So and Gino's just, you know, he's ol d. All right, final uh topic and this is soccer. Now I know you were glued to the TV Saturday. I was too. U. S takes a one nothing lead over Belgium. Everybody's like, oh, okay, we b we're we're here. Here we go. Belgium proceeded to score the next five goals, Colin. I was irate watching this. The text chains I'm on were like, what the hell's wrong with our defense? We got one back, but losing five two . I know the jersey story is kind of thankfully over taking us. I mean, look at this move here. That was a filthy goal. Do we need to readjust expectations? Again, it's just one game. But man, we didn't our defense just get shredded, Colin. This is bad. Yeah, I I I don't know what to make of it. Um the pul isic vibe . I if he's healthy, I think we're okay. I mean, I really think it comes down to this. If Pulisic is healthy and engaged, I think we're gonna get out of the group stage. Pretty winnable group stage, and I think we'll be viable. But the defense, though. I mean, five goals, Colin. I 'm not gonna call guys out here. Listen, I gotta, I don't want to get in trouble. But like, there was some real embarrassing effort. Like, not even trying to, and you can see the goalie yelling, what are we doing? He was ticked off at his guys. We're seeing wholesale subs at the back. You can't give up five goals in an exhibition four months before three or four months before the World Cup, Colin. Like not acceptable. This was one of these eye-openers. I've been talking, I think , I think quarterfinals are like the floor. I'm I'm not ruling anything out. And I see you looking at me like I'm crazy. I I do think this is a potential great run for us, but I need to see more from the defense. I mean, this is bad. It was bad. And go ahead. Do you do you have something to say about the jerseys? The kits, as the soccer fellas like to call them. It was just like amateur hour. It was ridiculous. It looked like a fun fetty cake mix. I mean, come on, guys. Um yeah that was I mean that was really bad. Uh J Mac with the news . Well that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. Man, there was uh it just college basketball has had six and oh the big ten against the SEC. And I mean uh you know it's it's funny when I when I hear like SEC fans, boy, we've got to correct this. And it's like, guys , everybody knows what was going on for years. Like it was Mississippi got caught, but there were stories with LSU and Auburn and you know people oh Saban Saban ran a clean program. Uh you know there was a lot of nonsense happening in the SEC and now everybody gets paid and there's just a lot more money in Big Ten schools. They're bigger. Uh the jobs aren't available as much in the Midwest outside of Chicago. So the kids from the Big Ten , they head to the coast, they head to Miami, Dallas, they go make money, and they love their sports and they give back and uh there's some billionaires in the Big Ten that are I think it would be I I love the NIL. I think it's a little wild wild west and I was talking to somebody yesterday that asked me about it and I said anytime you have a new I mean when Uber came and got rid of taxis, lawsuits everywhere, uh there uh it was a little rough um uh the behavior of drivers. And I mean there's just anytime you introduce something to a market and it's radically different than what we previously had , it it's it's gonna it's gonna be choppy and ugly. I I think the NFL has a salary cap. I think you have to have a salary cap in the NIL . Let's say it's uh the the most you can spend is twenty-four million dollars. Uh which by the way, that means you it's just like somebody who makes a hundred thousand compared to five hundred thousand. You gotta be smarter with your money. Um you can't stack rosters. Uh basketball, let's say the top you can spend is eleven. Uh in in football, the top you can spend is twenty four or twenty five, something like I mean you you can play with the numbers. I don't like the idea of, you know, some schools spend forty. Uh that that feels too close to professional. But um I will say you go watch that Miami Indiana football game, that was as smartly well played, well coached. It felt like