The History and Future of Cuba

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I hate the edibles and I put I asked the fucking flight attendant she'd give me some ice and that's how I got it down. Then I you rub it with that bortim shit that, liquid cocaine juice, it's what? Yeah, this is a cream that became illegal. You buy it over the counter. What is that? It's vort something, Vorta , don't quote me, bad. But it's a good cream. It numbs your eyes. You have to rub it though twice a day. and oh yeah Yeah, but it fucking feels fantastic. I've never heard of it. Yeah. Boltran, Boltran. What? Don't listen to me though. Just Google what's that? That it boltarant. Yeah. Arthritis pain. And you just rub it on your knee? Yeah, a couple times a day. Anything that hurts . What is it? It's like a fucking shower with cocaine that they are the fucking situation for you Prescription strength over the counter, non steroidal anti inflammatory that penetrates the skin to relieve joint pain, inflammation, and stiffness interesting. I never heard of it before. Widely used for osteoarthritis and muscle aches should not be used for acute injuries like simple strains or bruises Wonder why ? Why can't you use it for strains or bruises? Does it say why? That seems weird 'cause like that's what people use like ibuprofen and shit. I wonder why you can't use it. Like I couldn't use any of that shit. I could only use Tylenol. Whatever the fuck that is, I couldn't take ibuprofen after the surgery.. No Have you ever used DMSO? I don't know what that is, Joe. What's this shit right here? You rub it on? Yeah That's another horse tranquilizer, another horse medication. Yeah, they use it in veterinary applications, but it's a it's really good for pain for pain and injury take that. Keep it. Okay. No, I have a bunch of them. Thank you. I buy I buy shit in bulk. We were talking about Lala Zeda. Yeah . That was the early steroids, which were the seventies. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck we were getting the seventies. Everything came from Germany, I think. I think they were getting the Roblin, all that shit. I think they were getting human growth hormone from cadavers . See if that's true. Jamie put that into our AI sponsor perplexity . Did they used to get human growth hormone from cadavers? I think they did. I think that's how they used to get it. What do you get who human growth hormone from now? That's a good question. I don't know. I don't know how they do it. It's synthetic. I know it's synthetic . So it must be they isolate mo thelecule, they figure out how to reproduce it, and then they make it somehow. I have no idea . But the way they used to do it back then, cadaver derived human growth hormone was real used mid nineteen hundreds in nineteen eighty five and turned out to be dangerous because it sometimes tried transmitted preon diseases like cruxfell jacob yuckab and is no longer used and has been fully replaced by synthetic recom,binant HDH. So Quetzweld Yucub disease, that's mad cow disease. It's the same kind of disease . And what it comes from is it's the same thing that cannibals get when people eat human brain tissue they get and neurons and that kind of shit. You get this same disease. Alexander was one of the first U. S. sports figures to admit using antabolic steroids in the last year of his life as he battled against the brain tumor, which eventually caused his death. Alzader asserted that his steroid use abuse steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness. He recounted his steroid abuse in articles sports illustrated. I started taking anabolic steroids in ' sixty nine and never stopped. Now I'm sick and I'm scared. I was addicting mentally it was addicting mentally and mentally addicting. ninety percent of athletes I know are on the stuff not. b Weor'nre to be three hundred pounds or jump thirty feet. I became very violent on the field, off it too. I did things only crazy people do. Once in nineteen seventy nine in Denver, a guy side swiped my car, I chased him up and down the hills through the neighborhoods. I did that a lot. I chase a guy, pulled out of his car, beat the hell out of him. But look at me now. I wobble when I walk and sometimes I have to hold on to somebody. You have to give me time to answer questions because I have trouble remembering things. He died at forty three three forty. What he answer? Wow. He didn't look good at the end like he wore the bandana. Alzaeda was Jewish. That's he was inducted into the Jewish Hall of Fame . What did it say? Go back to that , what I was just reading ? International Jewish Hall of Fame. Jewish Sports Hall of Fame . I didn't even know that existed . Okay So I don't know if that was that stuff that Growth Parmon did that. But well, listen, he's saying he can't walk at the end. He can't remember. That's the knock to the head and mixed with whatever was going on. Yeah. I mean, there's everything else, it becomes something else, you know . I lied amidst a massive star. That's one of those lies that like everybody , you know, it's like when bodybuilders say they're natural. Like shut the fuck up bitch . Nobody's that big. Nobody's that big without help. There's a bunch of goofy guys out there that still try to claim natural. Like, come on son . How many fucking steaks do you eat a day? Like the Barbarian brothers, thirty six eggs. There's some guys that have freaked genetics. They have very unusual genetics and they get real big naturally, but that's rare. That's super, super rare. As a matter of fact , I got picked up by an UB yesterday. Guess who was the driver? Who? Yoel Romero's nephew. No way. Hey, he's a Judo champion. No way. Talked in Spanish for about fifteen twenty minutes Jersey here. My hand here. He lives in because all these U dribervers are Cuban. Really? All of them in Austin. All getting replaced by robots. Fuck that the Cubans saw a Cuban yell at a robot. A couple last time I was here, he got out of the car, yelling at the car, he realized fuel you. And a lot, he got back in the car. My bad. That's hilarious. He got cut him off. He cut you off all the time. He's fucking way more. No, I stay away from the car. They get right in front of you. They're ridiculous. I don't trust those cars at all. And I don't see how people sit. I don't know. It's not for me, brother. Did you hear about that lady she got into one and a homeless guy was in the back? No. Yeah, some guy used the Waymo. He got his luggage out, left the hatch open, probably figured the thing closed itself. It didn't. Homeless guy hopped in, shut the door, lady gets the way meld. There's a homeless guy in the back. He starts yelling at her for paying robots. Why you paying robots ? I'm gonna tell you about my homeless situation this week, Joe. Oh no. So my daughter played at Egg Harbor this weekend. It's like twenty five minutes outside of Atlantic City, which is an hour and a half from my house. So we went down for Saturdays tournament, they won. Now we got two more games on Sunday. So we got a hotel . I didn't want to get a hotel at Oceans. I'm going to be at Oceans in August, but I didn't want to go there because all the other parents were in fucking Harris. So I said, fuck it. I don't want to be that guy. I'll stay at Harris with you . So the game ended and my wife had to drive the kids somewhere and I go, you know what ? Because every weekend when I go on those little trips, I go to a weed store. Like last week I went into one in Trenton. Dork, this was a block from the state capitol. You could see the dome. The black guy called me back and he goes, No, no, I got a secret place in the back. He had mushrooms, mushroom, chocolate. Don't say this. There's eighteen stores in fucking , you know, you gotta figure it out. I'm not ratting nobody up. They know what's going on the cops. They got to I mean that packaged mushrooms, all different flavors green wide the whole thing . This week I go to Atlantic City. I go to this one Ever,ald whate,ver. It's supposed to be the big one. The big one, the big weed store in Atlantic City, and it's right by the casino. So as I pull up, I park my car in front. As I walk out, there's four yoked brothers yoked with co ld chains on in one of those fucking suburban millionaire cars. What do you call the big truck? Escalades? No, the other one, the one that looks like they're attacking your town, not the Oh MG wagons? I don't fucking though. Anyway, there're in there . They're in there bumping shit and they see me and they go, yo, we know you. And I go, yeah, what up, brother, hold on, I'll catch you on the way out. I thought by the time I got out, they would leave. Right. So I went in, I come on, they're all outside their cars . All four brothers yoked, big Gulf chains like yo, you're the motherfucker that goes on roguing. Nah, that's the motherfucker from the longest yard. We looked you up. So they're talking to me, talking to me, talking, we're rocking and roll ing. Rogan, the UFC yo, what do you think about that? And I'm loving it. But in the middle of all this, this black little homeless crackhead walks his way over and I can hear him, ask the other guy, who's this white motherfucker ? And the black guy goes, That's the dude from the longest yard. You know, the football movie. The black guy comes over and I see him walk right over and he goes, Hey, Mr. Football Man, why don't you break out of doubt for me? He just bummed me out of the dollar. I had to give him ten. I was so fucking embarrassed. Break out a dollar . Why don't you break out a dollar for me, Mr. Football star? I gave him ten. This motherfucker ran. He walked up with a limp but he ran away. Like he was going right for crack. I'm like, these motherfuckers, they got a game for everything. I love it. I love all that shit, Joe. It's fun to be around wacky people every now and those people living on the edge. But that Atlantic city outside those casinos, bro , that shit's real. A drug transaction right on the street when we were down there last Bro I'm surprised you didn't see a hooker get mugged or something like that . Damn not fucking around. I took a ride Saturday night about ten, did you just get a little ride. Sketchy. Bro, you make a ride in some of those corners. You ain't coming back . And I thought by now that at least build up the outside of AC No, no, no, no, no, it's barely making money. You know, AC doesn't do well , not like Vegas does. You know what I mean? Like AC's got some nice spots. You can go there and have a good time, but it's not like it's going to grow. You go to Bogada the Italians and shit. The outside's too sketched. The Burgada, all the Italians go down with their white shoes on the week. Hey, it's got old. What up, you know ? But no , I don't like the borgata that much. I like the couple hotels down there. There's some nice place is. Yeah, we stayed in the Borgata when it first opened. You and I. You had a gig that's right. You had a gig. That's right. The thing is it's not gonna grow like Vegas is, you know , Vegas is crazy. See, when Vegas had a head start, the thing like if they tried to make Vegas now, ooh, tough sell, tough sell. Too many places to go. You can gamble everywhere. You can gamble on your phone now. But when Vegas was first, there was no casinos in the country, Dog. It was just Vegas. And wonder if they made some sort of a deal . Well, let them blow off atomic bombs. They blow off these atomic bombs and then you know, we'll put the casinos in. That's a difference. But then we looked it up, and it turned out they made Vegas before the atomic bomb . So I'm like, well, what I guess it was just gangsters . They just bribed people or convinced people. There was nothing going on there. It was a pit stop. They opened up Vegas for a pit stop for American soldiers to stop on the way or something like that. Was it in the thirties, right? Was it the thirties, Jamie? Then the guy that owned the counter store? When Vegas was created . Yeah, and the guy that owned the counter store. He was in charge of Vegas and he robbed and they shot same guy as the comedy store. Same guy as the comedy store. So he was in charge. He's fucking genius. That fucking that motherfucker was a genius. He got shot because he stole at the end the expenses and was that what it was? The casinos , you know, he gave in those days they borrowed money from the unions in Chicago . And then you borrowed that and you worked off those teamster loans . Those Jimmy Hoffer loans. Ooh , so you had to build on those. Well, the expenses never stopped. Right. And they were like, What the fuck is going on? And he was hanging out with Jane Seymour or something going back and forth like a millionaire, like a movie star, Ain Leg and they shot him. That's why they shot him. I think so. They shot him in his house in his eyeball as well. Yeah, in his eyeball. Something like that. I remember that. So there's a picture of his dead body allegedly on the in LA, right? Yeah, they shot him in LA . Yeah. So it was all because the casinos, huh? But then they made it , you know, it's like when we first went to Denver. The money was too good . Don't give a fuck if it's Jesus and his three disciples, they're gonna take that envelope. It's too good. Well, you know what it was going on the beginning. They weren't allowed to use credit cards. Everything had to be cut cash. Yeah. And it was crazy. So these guys were leaving the fucking and they bring like six special forces guys with them. They'd have fucking green berets and navy seals and shit, like armed to the tits because they're transferring millions of dollars in cash . So money nuts, man. No joke. It was nuts. I read this story about the dilemma. Like these people are making all this money and the crazy thing is the state was making all that money too, because the taxes on the legal weed. Look this up, please. It's amazing. I think it was like thirty nine percent. It's fucking crazy. And everybody was like, sure . Like you would never accept thirty nine percent on alcohol. No, never accept thirty nine percent on ground beef. No. But thirty nine percent on weed, you're like, I'll take it. During the pandemic in LA, you had to buy an extra tax to go open. That's why they called them , what do they call those businesses that had to be open? Dispensaries? No, no, no, they're businesses that they had a purpose to be open during the pandemic. Oh, right. Essential. Essential. Yeah. They made that essential, but they charge an extra tax ten percent tax reason they're making so much money off wheat in California. But now look at all the wheat stores are starting to close. Are they? And in Jersey, they created a dilemma because the state convinced them that they had to build and all this shit. All these places started, you know, you're opening up a shop minus three milliliters listen , it's a lot of twenty dollars bags to get the three mil. A lot. Not only that, there's a lot of competition. Oh, and how many weed stores are in LA? It's bananas. In English town, New Jersey, there's four of them and here's what gets better. They're all on the same block. Wow. Did you ever go to that place in Inglewood with me back when it was only medical? The Inglewood used to get the lollipops. Yeah. Yes,, ye Iah went there one time with you. You know, the guy that ran that got shot . That dude that we used to deal with. Yeah, got shot in that store. They killed him? No, I think he lived . I'm not sure though. Look that up. He d mightied have. Yeah , that's the first place you had the lollipops from fear factor. Yes. It was from that guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wood wellness center. That was in the nineties . That was in the days where it was legal , if you had a medical reason and any medical reason would do. Oh, my feet hurt. Get in there. Sign them up . But anybody who does martial arts has the pain excuse because everybody's in pain and it does help you with pain. If you could take aspirin, THC like gummies with CBD are phenomenal for aches and pains, man . You remember Dave Foley? Yeah . Dave Foley's hand, of course you do. Dave Foley's hand was all fucked up from arthritis. He started taking CBD and now his hand is full function. Absolutely in it. CBD's amazing. CBD's, they just blew it up out of content a couple of years ago. Well, who knows who's making it and what the quality red, but no it is that's the things when things are gray, you get a bunch of douche bags making stuff. You know, I used to have a bit about that about the gummy bears. Like they're not making these gummy bears in the same labs or they're making Tylenol . They're very inconsistent. You get one of them, you swear it's a thousand milligrams and the other one feels like it's like a hundred. They barely make sense back in the day, back in when it was the wild west. I got five hundred milligrams in my pocket . They feel like five hundred milligrams what do you take? Now I don't think you can do that anymore. I'm talking about like way back in the day, it was different because way back in the day there was like it was the wild west. First of all, we' backre in the dead input warnings on this shit. No, no one knows how many milligrams were in this stuff. And I remember eating a brownie one time and flying up to Pittsburgh in my red eye and my leg wouldn't stop tapping. Like it wouldn't stop fucking tapping. I remember one time we were on a plane and you had a panic attack and then waited like an hour later and then popped two more . I was like, how are you doing that? You're like, Joe Rogan, I almost got off the plane. I couldn't take it. I couldn't breathe. My fucking heart was closing. It was like my chest was closing in on me. The walls were closing in. I thought the plane was gonna crash. I was freaking out I almost had turned the fucking plane around or you have no idea. I was back baby. You have pumped him You have no idea what I put myself through over the years. I need to do that because I just want to take a chance. Columbus did. I mean , I'm sitting at home it's two in the afternoon. You bore this shit. You're like, let's meet the devil. Let's see what happens. And the only thing that would hold me back is if I had a spot that night. Oh yeah. Then I would tame it and be like a couple hundred milligrams. You don't want to go up on stage with too much edible? Yes, you do. Sometimes yes, we do. Sometimes you need to. It's important sometimes . This episode is brought to you by Blue Chu. Listen up. Blue Chu just drops something wild. They're calling it Blue Chu Gold . And honestly, the name fits, the stuff is setting a whole new standard for performance in the bedroom. It's not your typical blue pill. It combines two ingredients for blood flow with two for mental arousal and connection . It's not just physical, it's the mindset too. Blue Chu gets it. Sex is not just about being able to perform, it's about actually wanting to. And I've got a special deal for you listeners now. R whenight you buy two months of Blue Chu Gold, you get the third free with a promo code Rogan. You'll also receive an additional ten percent off plus free overnight shipping on your first order. Visit Blue Chew. com for more details and important safety information. Sometimes it's important to go off into the woods, right? Yeah. Sometimes you just stay on the trail. Yeah, but listen, depends on a special stay on the trail. Last week I went to do a spot. I figured let me wait five weeks. I haven't been on stage since april eighteenth. Let me go do a spot . I'm nervous. I get down there and there's fifty people perfect. Break my cherry, do it. I got I got into such a groove I ended up doing an hour. That was because the edible I took before I went out of state. No material. I told you that. I got nothing. Right. That's it. I'm starting over from scratch. Got nothing. I talked about going to the hospital and then it just became something else. And at the end I was up there an hour. Wow. My leg was starting to fucking throw up it. Did you film it a recorder or? No, I just I didn't know it was gonna be gold. I just But that's why THC somebody said DHC is like a banned substance for comics because it may if they really let it absorb you, and I'm not telling you to smoke pop, but that an audition. When I have an audition, I read it , I put it away . I get stoned and then I go back and I look at it again completely different sheet . Now I can pick out things. Now I could point . Then I leave it again. I get higher and I come back like an hour later and that's what I think THC makes me just rely. Look, look, I live in anxiety naturally , naturally. I beat myself up this morning it's eight thirty I'm drinking coffee outside the fourth season. I'm like, why am I heartbeat? Because I thought I had somewhere to go? I gotta know where to go. You just gave yourself an anxiety for no reason. Yeah, 'cause I always think I got somewhere to fucking go at ten in the morning. That's why when my daughter gets on that bus, the school is seven fifteen, I started blasting because then I know I ain't got to know where to go. Like, you know, you make a list every day and you go, this is what I'm gonna do today and then you fucking , you know , wake up and you look at that list after you smoke and you're like , That's a long drive up to New York City today. I ain't doing that podcast. You know , that's a fucking long drive up to that motherfucker. Yeah, the driving in New York is not a joke. That's an endeavor. Yeah, no , you got to take a day. Like that's your day. Your day is driving in and driving out. You're not going to the gym, you're not doing all the other stuff . No, I'm saying if you've got to drive into New Jersey, that's your day. It's not like, oh, I'll go there. That's at noon. I'll hit the gym at two thirty. Uh , no, you won't you be in traffic for three hours. Three hours. I always call the bridge early and get it all with like on days that I have to go to the city up north, I'll just take that as a day off. Like I'll work that day before so I could go up there comfortably and not sweat it because it's got some days I get up and I'm gonna cool up there I got to work out today. Listen, this is one of the big things that Texas has or Austin has in particular over the east coast is the fucking traffic. The traffic here's a joke. They talk about traffic, it's adorable . You might be ten extra minutes. Whoop Doo. It's a your occasionally a car accident happens and there's a bunch of people stopped. That shit happens everywhere in the world, but for the most part, the east coast is so thick with people . You don't realize it until you have to make that trip to New Jersey and back and forth. You know, when we do the UFCs, if we go into New Jersey to the UFC and then with the winds, then we have to go back to New York to play pool. At six o'clock that's Yeah. Oh my God . It's crazy. Go to New York to eat and to play pool and it's fucking it's a madhouse. Think about what it was like the last two weeks . Jim Juarreinent said he went into the city Saturday was three hours because of the nick bullshit and they weren't even playing they weren't even playing. People were so upset that Trump was going to go to the NBA if he's there, then they have all these crazy security protocols that makes the traffic even worse. There was no parties, there was no nothing. Stick to the UFA. And that's why they're gonna boo him everywhere. Oh, they booed him to death. I didn't watch the whole game. I was n't some people cheered. I heard it was like cheers and booze, but the problem is if there's cheers and any booze is if there's like fifty fifty, like that's that's don't don't go to that spot. Go to the UFC. People say you got boot theed U atFC . I've seen him at the UFC six times or something like that. I don't know how many times. Never get booed. They get he's never gotten booted. They fucking cheer. The people that say they're they boo him, you're distorting reality. It's not true. They cheer him like he walks in there to the American badass on, especially if Kid Rock is with him and Dana White's behind him and sometimes Tucker Carlson was there too back in when they were close. It was like the Conservative Avengers. It was like, this is ridiculous. He was he was the kiss of death last night. I bet against the Knicks last night. Me and Jamie, we were like, fucked out getting two and a half. Why do they only give him two and a half? They're up two scams. I believe you were returned. Two and a half they were given last night. Everybody in their mother, even fucking your daughter bet the mix last night giving two and a half. Do you bet sports all the time ? How often do you bet? This type of the year, I bet basketball because it's real. Do you use an app? Like what do you draft gang? Draft gangs you on draft everything is on draft gang. You don't have a bookie. No. Yeah , no, I enjoy because Draft Kings has so many fun like there's bookies out there like they keep busting these mafia rings in Jersey and New York. thirty nine people had the big bust last year with the basketball coaches that they put the cards up and you could see through the f ucking cards on the table. Gambling has grown to a fucking nightmare. We're going to pay for this in five years, but when I went to college, after orientation , you walked out and there was credit card companies, discover , mastercard, visa, and they give you a credit card for being a student for two hundred and fifty automatic right there. And now when you go to all those orientation , draft kings is there. You know, the other ones Fandu's dad. I'm not putting them down. I love draft kings . But you copy these kids, these kids don't have enough problems with fucking student loans. Right. Now I'm gonna put a fucking thing . More people are gambling more than ever. Then ever. Then ever. In Australia too. My buddy McCain. You know, James McCamp. Yeah. He was talking about how crazy it is in Australia . Yeah, it's is those what's the odds on the Illiot Toporia Justin Gates fight at the White House to pick them. , no. Tiporia has to be a huge favorite . I guarantee Tiporia's two to one. Four to one. Four to one . Yeah. Oh my God. Four to one's crazy. Two to one if you just think about what he's done in his last three fights, he's had the most legendary run in MMA Championship history in his last three fight s. He knocked out three all time greats, knocks out Alexander Volkanovski, knocks out Max Holloway, knocks out Charles Olivira, three in a row. Like anybody who could do that, you go, I'm not fucking betting anything against that guy . But Justin Gates a tough character sign on the car. So if I bet twenty five bucks on Geji, I win a hundred A hundred . A hundred, four hundred one . Four to one. Yeah , which is looked it's minus four hundred twenty six for Toporia. They're like four to one's not enough. Caesar says six hundred. Caesar says six hundred Caesars is smart . But the thing is man, don't think that Justin Gaetze can't win . Like anybody can lose in an MMA fight. People get hit like in Iotlli Zaporio, one of his early fights , one of I think his first fight in the UFC at lightweight. He took it on short notice and he fought this dude , Ji Herbert , who's a really tall , really good striker. And Ji Herbert caught him with a head kick in the first round, a switch kick to the dome that dropped him. It was perfect, but he recovered brilliant. He got a hold of him, took him to the ground , recovered and then came back in devastating knockout in the second round. Like he fucking puts people into orbit, man. His power is crazy. He's not a big guy either, man. Justin's a much bigger guy than him, but the way he knocks guys out, it's just dead ly. He knocks them out dead . But so does Gaitchi . People forgetting. Gaitchee's a fucking warhammer, dude. That guy loves battles. He's welcome. This is not. I don't think it's a tough fight man. It's a tough fucking fight. I could both this guy and this is the Sunday, right? Correct. It's the Sunday. Gate is bigger. So fuck yeah, I'm going. So Gate's bigger, Gateche used to fight at what was it called the IFL? Whatever the organization was before the he came to the UFC. I think it was it was before the PFL. It was like another one , but what was it? What did he what was the organization? You know, there's these feeder organizations like the PFL. Lot of really good fighters that wind up becoming champions started over there. Yeah . Was that it? World S ofe farsighting. That's right , that's what it was. And I mean, he was fucking people up with leg kicks, but it was the way he was fighting would just throw himself into chaos . Like he didn't fight tactically at all back then. No, like the you ever see the Michael Johnson fight with him in the UFC? A long time yeah his first fight in the UFC. It's one of the craziest fucking fights ever because he just fucking throws himself at Michael Johnson and Michael Johnson throws himself right back and moves up. They got hurt. Both guys got cracked. It was a crazy fight but eventually Justin got them, but it was the way he fought you like good lord. Yeah he fights like a pit bull like a, pit bull, like no concern for his safety, just diving. It was a fucking crazy fight. And look how Dustin is always just trying to kill you. He's always moving, look at that. Every shot he's trying to fucking kill you. He's always moving forward trying to smash you. And the thing is he relishes this kind of combat so much that in the beginning he lost some fights that he could have won if he tempered it and, then he did. So then when he went on this like legendary run and started beating everybody, it's really because he controlled the violence a little bit more. He controlled the chaos , but it was still like very technical violence. It wasn't like he was brawling dumb. He was just forcing himself into chaos so much. He was throwing himself right into the fire over and over and over again . This is a dangerous fucking guy. He's a dangerous fucking guy I mean, he had hit Kabib, he hurt him with some calf kicks. He could do that too. He leg kicks you from inside the clinch . One of the things that he does really well is from like he could get you with a collar tie and he's leg kicking you like he gives him the finger and tells him to get up. Mean Michael Johnson's getting battered. This is a tough fight for him. At this point we're in round two and look at that knee to the body . Just everything's trying to kill you. It's not like this tactical take a chance here, take a chance there. Now, everything's take a chance. It's like from the very beginning of the fight. And this is how we fight the event ually took him out . But it was crazy fight. He fights like I told you Hagler used to fight. They weren't thinking about brain damage. Right. Hagler, all those dudes were not thinking about that. We were talking about that with football before. You know what I just watched the other day? Mustafa Hampshow. Hag ger versus Mustafa Ham show. Did they battle? Ooh, Hagler took him out, but it was just Hagler in his prime. He was beautiful. Bro. He was amazing. Fucking so good. He was so good. And he was so good at switching stances, man. What no one was doing that back then? Hagger would fight South Paul, he would fight Orthodox, he would fuck you up. You didn't know where it was coming from. And he could fight just as good South Paws he could Orthodox. It was amazing it was an amazing fight to watch. Look God that guy was great . So disciplined . Yeah, some good fights this week. I'm excited for the card. I thought it was Saturday. Yeah, Jamie posted up that the serial gun Alex Perira fights the closest fight on the card is in terms of odds. It's like even odds. And that's a that's a serial guns a tall order. That's a tall order for your first heavyweight fight in the UFC. Caesar says that as a pick him. Pick them. Yeah, I would say it's a pick him. I would say it's a pick him. Sir Gon is really good. And the thing about Cirro Gon is the problems that he's had in fights or when guys take him down . When guys stand with him, he is very tricky. He's very slick , he's very technical, and he's very light on his feet for a big guy. Like he moves really well, like one of the best movers in the heavyweight division for sure . He's like dancing on his feet. He also does a weird thing off his front leg. He throws a front kick when he's standing sideways like in a bladed stance like this and he picks it up and twists it into your stomach bang like that it's weird like it works a kick. I mean it's, called a twist ing kick. Twisting kick. It's just you don't ever see people throwing that kick from the front leg like he does. Like he does a lot of he does a lot of weird shit that you have to get used to. Like that Tom Aspinol fight man he was, he was scoring very well on the feed and I know it got stopped because of the IPOs, but before the IPOs Cyr Gon was doing very well on the feet against Aspenol and Aspinal's a big fast heavyweight it's going to be interesting because I don't I don't, you know, know if Perira is going to have an issue with the movement, you know, if he's going to be able to shut that movement down and I don't know if Cyril Gon is going to be able to like if he's going to want exchange to with them, he might feel that power and say, I'm just going to fight on the outside because Per has got that. You make one mistake power . Yeah. Looks good at heavyweight . He looks like he gained the weight. He looks yoked. He's huge. And on top of that, no dieting. So no depleting of his body at all. You're gonna have a guy competing for the first time where he's never had to cut weight . That's huge. That's a giant advantage. Not having to cut weight is like they let you take steroids. You don't have to cut weight, no cutting weight at all. If they changed weight cutting, if they cut all weight cutting out of MMA, you'd have like twenty percent better perform ances . People would be fighting so much better because they would they would feel so much healthier. They would be so much more durable. There wouldn't be as many like one shot knockouts where you're like, whoa, that got them. Because a lot of these guys like their, brain is still dehydrated when they're in there fighting. It's only twenty four hours after they rehydrate. That's not enough time to get to the brain. We go to Wayne's with you and these guys would come in like they lookin' like they had cancer. They look dead yeah. I would see them and then they would IV in the back. I think they cut out IVs after work. Cut out IVs. I remember being there with you and looking at these guys coming in. They were not They looked like they were on that fucking GLP for ten years like fucking Sharon Osborne's daughter. I mean, they were looking fucked up Jack. Yeah, they looked dead. Some guys looked real. You remember when Anderson Silva fought Travis Looter, do you remember that fight? Yeah, the Jujitu guy from Texas? Exactly. Yes. He that was the worst I ever saw anybody at a way in. He looked really fucking and again, this was not the ceremonial way in like we have now. This was like the actual way in, see if you could make the way and Travis couldn't walk. He was shuffling. He couldn't pick his legs up. His lips were cracked. Like his body was dry can't be good for you like then to pick it back up and then go through rounds . Bunches eight o'clock the next night . Meanwhile, I mean he was so depleted , but he got a hold of Anderson the first round. It took him down and that's what he wanted to do. And he was tracked in Texas. Yeah. Kevin Hohn's coach. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Travis bad mother fight. was a He bad mother fight. He was when guys rolled with him on the ultimate fighter, you know, one of one of the best compliments one of the guys said he goes, dude, he goes, I've rolled with only a couple guys like that. It's like him and Ricciardo Liborio. I go really. I go that guy feels like Ricardo de Laborio. He's that level. He goes . He's like, dude, he was running through people. Just running through people on the ground. Travis was a beast. He was one of the first like truly elite Brazilian jujitsu black belts in like the modern era, like the Anderson Silver Era, whereas when he got guys to the ground, you were in trouble. You were in real trouble. There's a few guys . Charles Oliveira is the big one. Charles Olivira puts people in positions. They're like, Oh no, what have I done? Like, you think you're gonna be comfortable like in his guard? Like you're never going to be comfortable on the ground with Oliveera. Oliveera's just so dangerous everywhere. He is a jujitu correct. Oh yeah, yeah, I've been doing this since I were a kid. Yep. Almost like cuts would stand up. Great camp. He's from that shoot to box camp. I mean, that camp produced Anderson Silva , Marie Ninja , Shogun like who else? No Garrett Pele Pele one of the original MMA fighters back in the bare knuckle days. He was the top dude in the original in the original days. No, noger's not from ShoePox. Nogera is a Carlson Gracie guy . Those Carlson Gracie, right? No . Carlson's in Chicago? No, no Gera wasn't Carlson Gracie. Nogera was I don't want to get that wr ong. Who was Nogera's trainer? Menitaro Nogera, his original Ji Jitsu Coach . His fucking brother, probably. No, both of them were illegal. They were twins. They were twins right? Yeah, they were twins. They were both elite. They were both like world class fighters in pride . Does it say his jujutsu ? Minotara was the first like he was the first guy that was like finishing elite guys off of his back in pride . Like he was tapped like when he was the champion in pride, like , you remember when he beat Bob Sapp ? No. Bob Sapp was three hundred and fifty pounds with abs , and the fight was crazy. He picks Minitaro up and spikes him on his head in the beginning of the fight, fucked his neck up for years . Like his neck was fucked up after that fight and still survived and eventually caught Bob Sapp in an arm bar, but it was bananas . Amrey Pete. Okay, yeah, there you go. Ahre Pentetch is another guy who fought early in the UFC . So that's his coach for one where did he get his black belt ? Just see where he got his black belt from Just ask the question who gave Meditaro his black belt Uh, let me say Okay, Ricardo de la Delahiva . That's his primer instructor . There you go. Okay . Yeah, he was if he was the heat. He was he invented the Della Hebrew hook . Probably. There's a bunch of moves that are attributed to guys that it's not quite sure whether or not they invent ed it, but they were really good at it, you know ? How much fun is that getting somebody dollar heavy faking them down? That's fine. I can't finish the leg lock. I never could. I'm fucking terrible. I can't get my arms around it. I'm fucking my shoulders are fucked up. Leglocks are scary. I don't like all of that shit. You fuck them up, you know, you twist the wrong way, you turn the wrong way, you hear things pop. E verything you still training ? No, private, no more . No, ha Iven''t over a year. Ive never had a while in with you. That was for a while. I've got I got a knee problem. It's much better now. I've been really working on it over the last six months, but it kept swelling after a while. The thing is it would get better and it would feel pretty good and then I'd heard it again. And usually I heard it like a year ago hunting, I twisted it hunting and then I've also heard it like hitting the bag too. Like sometimes I just start wailing bag and you forget. Yeah, you forget. It's just the next day it's sore as fuck. It's like I don't have meniscus on one part of my knee. So I have to make sure that it doesn't get arthritic. You know what I mean? Because like, I don't have to tell you. Like once your knee gets bad, it's a real problem. It's a problem. And so you got to like walk that edge when you don't have cartilage or you don't have meniscus and your cartilage is getting bone on bone like that. Like you got to be careful. You got to be careful. They're getting real close to fixing shit, real close. They're injecting like different kinds of gels in people's knees now that we replace the meniscus . And they're also doing some new stem cell therapy where they go into the bone itself and it regenerates better. But that gel they always work you with that gel. I think it's a new one, Joey. It's like a they call it a biological matrix. You need to fucking get like a you need to get like insurance approval and all that. Yeah, I did it . That's just all those things it's like when you see an ad for somebody , do you have problems sweeping? Buy this mouthpiece for twenty nine dollars ninety nine cents. I don't think you got what they have now because this is just released in Germany , this is brand new. But this gel, like I'm just saying to you, the gel, the c ortis. Iol have friends with knee problems and they tell me what they go through and they go to different doctors and it's the same fucking we got cortisol for you . We got the gel. We're not going to do the PRP and we don't do stem cell . So you , Joe, regular, you don't do no reading. Here's what happened to me with the fucking why I did the surgery in the first place . You had moved here and I didn't know about ways too well if not I wouldn't have never cut this knee the first time. Never , never . I didn't read up on it because when my wife was pregnant, I read up on all that shit. And I didn't want to have the baby no more. Because it said when you're over for forty three, you'll die if you give him birth. Like if you're not ready when you get older as a woman, you know now women are having kids at fifty's and fucking fifty five's , but a woman has to be the she has like a short window and they have a lot of things that could go wrong with the pregnancy. When I read that, I got nervous for my wife. I'm like, She's gonna die on the fucking table. And I'm stuck raising a girl. I don't know if I can raise a girl. You know, man, what am I gonna do here? So I didn't really I researched it a little bit. After I went and I saw the fucking the chisel and the fucking mallet on the table. I go, We gotta look into this when I get out of here . Like, this is fucking insane. I would have never done the redo knee. I would have waited, shot it with stem cell, BPC it. At that time, I was still a little fearful of needles . So I was like, BPC them. Everything has got to shoot it. You're fearful at needles, but not of a knee replacement. That's hilarious. No, I'm pro now I'm fine. Now it took four stays in the hospital last year to fucking like go. One day they had to come in and take blood out of me every twenty minutes for three hours. Why? It's that type of test. They shoot you with something to see how you react to it. And dog, I didn't faint one time. I don't faint no more. Unless last time I weighed too well. I went and they hung over on those tequilas from the mother ship dr,inking that round white juice and shit . I went in there with no breakfast like we need to take blood out within minutes. I'm pale, I'm sweating profusiously. They got to put ice on my back and on my neck and shit . And when I did when they turned the switch off on your leg, what's that? When you do that little before surgery, when I first hurt the knee, they said, We're not going to give you pain medication. But if you're really hurting that bad, come on down here and we'll give you a ner ve block. Oh they give you a nerve block. Oh Rogan, holy shit. Who did that? Where'd they do that? Because the place where I went for surgery, the first time they're shit . This place is specialized in all that stuff. So they have their own therapy , they have their own like the surgeons and then they have a pain department that they talk to you and they go, listen, you can take this. You want it, we'll give it to you. But let's do this. Let's try it with this. They don't want you, you know, and I understand it. People lose their minds on those fucking things. So I did the nerve blog first, Joe . Holy fuck . Holy fuck. And when I went to the doctor about a month ago, the girl was like, I was there that day. I go when I fainted, she goes, You didn't faint, but you sure came close. She goes, You lost all the color in your face. It's crazy, Joey. Had drink water , and then the epidor block. You ever do one of those? No. Well, no, I did when I got my knee surgery. Yeah, they always knee surge you. I thought they put you out for those. They did most of the time. But my first ACL, I asked if I could watch and he said, You don't want to watch it. I go, No, I do. I don't want to only want to get this done once. I want to see it. Can I watch it? Where did you see it? They shot it in the head on your spine . Well, they shot it in my spine . And so you don't feel anything in your legs. And I watched him open my knee up and put it together again. Fuck you, Joe . That's the epidor block . I wanted to see I'm like, I don't want to do this once. I didn't know that I was gonna have another ACL or surgery . So you didn't get put out for your surgery? No, not the first one. The second one I did. That's insane, Joe. That's fucking insane. I love you, that you zombo and shit , but I wanted to watch nah, I want to watch a lot of them. I want to see what it looks like because it's kind of crazy. They're gonna take your knee, take a slice out of your patella tendon, along with a chunk of bone, and a chunk of bone for your kneecap, and then sc Irew it back in place. I'm like, this is crazy. I want to watch . Held up . Still good. The real problem was the meniscus. So they didn't even take the meniscus out then. They just stitched it up. There was a tear in the meniscus, but it wasn't too bad and he thought it could heal . You know, because I was in my twenties. I was like twenty three, I think. twenty two . And then over time, it just got wore out that that tear became a bucket handle tear and then it would lock. So it would pull the meniscus would pull up and like lock in place. It was fucking insanely painful and I was like, this keeps happening. It happened a couple of times. It was like, it happened in Jujitsu class and Eddie Bravo had to take me to the doctor. So Eddie Bravo had to drive my NS . We drove straight to the doctor and you know , they tell me I need to get my meniscus remo ved. I'm like, okay. And then he told me I need to stop doing martial arts. And I was like, okay, that's cute. That's the person they'll tell you. Yeah, you got to stop doing martial arts. Everybody . No martial arts, all this. Thirty years later, fuck you. We get one of those Zins? Yeah, these are the medium ones without these are Alps. That's Tucker Carlson's one. Those are good. It's six, six milligrams. These are three's. This is athletic nicotine , that's Thurs . I like those. They don't make you jittery . Those take a hell of a hit. Tucker likes them strong. I like them, but they fucking I always swallow 'em by mistake. They're fucking shingoot pouches and shit. I had pouch they have focus ones? Yeah, that's these ultrasound. Yeah, I do the ultrasound but I don't have this room anymore. I was doing those after I had the surgery. Those are great. Yeah. There's a bunch of really good things for your focus. People that think it's all bullshit, like that neutropics are bullshit and you're allowed to think whatever you want. But trust me, from someone who uses his brain for a living, there's a difference between taking neutropics and not taking them. It's not gonna make you smarter, but it'll make your brain function at a better level. There's a bunch of shit that works like that. Like, you know, those ketone drinks like ketone IQ that helps a lot. Really? Yeah, your brain uses ketones. Your brain uses ketones for focus. That's why people that take ketogenic diets and go on carnivore diet, they say it gives them like more mental clarity. You have more focus. It's fact. I feel different when I'm eating like clean, if I'm eating like carnivore or just eggs and steak, my brain works better. A hundred percent . It's just not processing the carbs and all the fog that comes with that. Not the carbs are bad for you . But when you take this stuff, this stuff is shit. This is my friend Derek's gorilla mind. This is a neutropic drink. Energy drink? No. No, it's got some caffeine in it. It's got a good amount of caffeine, but it's got a bunch of neutropics. So there's a bunch of brain vitamins in there. You know anything about I'm not selling this. This is my friends . You know, I'm not a , you know that I have a great memory of dates and I can take it to different situations. Stories. I don't know what happened the in last three years ? How come? If I talk to you on a Monday, which I usually do, you call me Mondays on the way home at six . Whatever we talked about by Thursday , I don't remember. Like you'll say call me back when you find out I fucking forget now . Like just little facing this last few years? Last few years I could see. You know, you know, you're sixty. A lot of shit changes. You yeah. You know, it's really weird, Joe. I need eight now . I need eight. Sorry . I need eight. Eight, what? Hours of sleep. Eight, solid. I got the whoop, I need it. Makes a difference. Six and a half, don't cut it. Don't. Done . I need eight now and don't get me started on an hour nap. Well, now at fifteen nap at two or three o'clock in the afternoon. If I get up in the morning, I get up at six . So I put her on the bus, I start smoking weed and nine. I'm at a gym, I'm doing something, boxing, PT, you know . So by fucking two o'clock dog, these days I walk in, there ain't no stopping. There ain't no pissing. I go right to the bed , put the mask on and go right to sleep . Just like that. I mean, there's no thought, there's no stop it . What is that monopoly? Stop it going get two hundred . Ain't none of. that I come in, I drop my bag, I pee and I walk right upstairs right to the bed. I move the cat over, get the fuck over and I fuckin' put that mask on. Does the cat cuddle with you, I saw? Oh, please. And he goes under the blank. She goes under the blank with me too, so it's perfect. That's funny. But dog, it's not no more. Like I'm going to fly out early no more . Fuck you. Yeah, you need you need a solid amount of you need. As you get older, it's even more important . You know what else is really important? Creatine. I take ten milligrams twice a day. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. That's phenomenal for your memory. And that's a really good neutropic as well. I didn't know you had some gummies on here. My neighbor gave them to me that you had them. I prefer to just open it up and pour it in my mouth and then drink water. Yeah, me too. I like the powder too. Yeah, I put the ten milligrams in my mouth and I just drink . water You don't put it on your food, do you? No. I put it in a smoothie from time to time. I like the raspberries with water. Make the best way to make sure that I'm getting all ten milligrams is to just pour it in my mouth and then drink water with it. Because otherwise it's in the glass, you gotta rinse the glass and get more of it in. You know, you're giving yourself an exact dose, just put it in your mouth, dry scoop it. So I just dry scroop it in my mouth and pour the water in there. That's how I do it most of the time. What the gummies are really good for is if you forget and they're just laying around, you just eat a couple of gummies , you know? I don't know how many milligrams are in the north has it on you know. I think two gummies is five milligram s. I think that's what it is. I also got turned on to a creat company that has a preoutine precursor. Is that preventine? A precursor? Creatine precursor. I don't know what that is. Your own body creates creatine. Right. on its own This helps. Oh, it's just the body I think it's called a precursor. Don't fuckin'. Yeah, I don't know. Hey, I say just right off with a fucking. You know what I'm saying? I know that 'cause I'm saying it wrong like Voltron, I don't fucking know guys I'm sure there's something. I mean there's always a bunch of I mean there's if you think about how many supplements are out there like good lord, there's so many supplements and not all of them are good but a lot of them are really good. Here's another one that's really good for working out, beta alanine. You ever take that? No. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Look, I take everything else . It makes you tingle though. Makes your skin like iodine. Itch. You ever take iodine? No, iodine. Yeah, like there's a pill or something, you take iodine to help you. Supposed to do that if you get radiation poisoning. Listen, when the first pist came out, they said you would take iodine . So get you put clorox in your dick? I put clorox in my dick after it because the iodine obviously didn't fucking work, okay ? Imagine when they ran your piss through the fucking test machine they were like what did what is this? Do you understand? Do you understand ? Like this times I every minute I go, I take my cup of coffee and I sit outside, I thank God, you know, the whole fucking bullshit story . And then it takes me somewhere. Like after the second cup of coffee in one of these zins or the bung , your mind goes somewhere and I think a chunks of my life and I go what the fuck was that Like that was joe, that was insanity . What about every time I used to come to my house to do the checkup ? I never let him in . He came like eleven times in two years. I never let him in my house. He wouldn't know I was in the house. He would put the sheriff to come and sit outside my house for two hours, then they would leave. They're like, What are you going to? He's not home . I never let him in my house. I tortured that guy. He could have sent me to prison. I still would have been in prison. But it was such a like first it was the iodine . And then you fucking, you know, you're supposed to take twenty milligrams . I'm eating two hundred, whatever. I don't know. And my skin is burning. I'm fucking red in the face. I got itchies. So I stopped with the iodine. I still came back positive. Then I went on the fucking white vinegar . White vinegar. White vinegar with a fucking bottle of gatorade on a Monday morning. Not a little vinegar, not red wine vinegar. The real vinegar you clean your ass hole with douche bags and all that shit. Doing a clean job. That's what women wash their monkey with vinegar because it takes all the fucking catplice out of it. All the shit they got in it . So they said drink vinegar every Monday morning bro . And it's like a process like you would get high Friday and you would hope to beat it by Sunday, but you knew you weren't beat going it to and they're going to call you Monday . And it's like your color is yellow, right? Like if they say yellow, you gotta come in. So you wait till one o'clock and you're like, all right, you gotta call in and all of a sudden you're today, Monday, Tuesday, the n inth of June, the colors are purple and you're like, yellow, goddamn I got to figure out I got five hours. The place closes at six, so I got to figure out how to stop this cocaine from coming up. So then we started taking sorto . What's sort of? Serdo is what you put in like jello. It's that thing that makes the jello jiggle Fuck it sorto. There was no winter that these days. These sea. What is that? A brand of liquid fruit pectin most commonly used in the kitchen as a thickening agent for homemade jams and jellies . However, it's also widely known as an internet folk remedy. People use an attempt to mask drug drug metabolize . I don't have your folk remedy. Fucking bullshit. Does it work? No, that's why let's find out if it works . The myth . 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If you want to try Armorra is offering my listeners thirty percent off plus two free gifts. Go to armor dot com slash rogan. But again, you get your advice from a guy who's done thirty fucking years. Then you forget he's been doing thirty years 'cause he made mistakes . Not because he's a fucking genius about Surdo. Exactly. You know, and then we went from Ser rup and then one day I was swimming. Does anything work? Huh? Is anything work? No, cranberry juice. What about that stuff that they used to sell? Remember they used to sell stuff? This is ninety fucking. This is eighty nine. They didn't sell nothing. No , but remember there was some stuff that you could buy and shake it every sell yeah, no, you're saying you could buy piss now it's completely different. You could buy pIS? Yeah, you could buy piss online. Just get that whatever that dirty that dirty fucking XPT, whatever you go on and you could search hidden shit a rubber dick and take that piss and cook. I had a guy who made a rubber dick . Normal Let could not start snoring coke. he So made a contraption where he filled up his son's piss in a hot water bottle and did the same thing with the douche. And he took the douche on the bottom of the Scott's taped it to his dick and he would piss and squeeze his chest . Oh my god, that's good. And one day the thing blew up . And he was a bank robber. He sent to jail for thirty fucking years. Wanna hear the craziest steroid evasion story that I've ever heard from PIS . There was a guy who was fighting and he knew he was going to get piss test and he was just juice the tits . So the legend is that they inserted clean urine his bladder through injection . So he injected clean urine his bladder with a needle . Whether or not that's true, I have no idea, but this is what everybody this is like early days of the UFC . Like when they first started drug testing people think about it? I don't even think it was in the UFC that he did this. I think it was in another organization but I don't know if you think about what was going on the other side of this. Your addiction is that high . Well these guys when they're not chewed up when they're that chewed up, they're not getting off of it because it's not muscle. I get it. I understand. So you understand the extremes that people do . Could you ever shoot fucking f ake piss? Like Joey, go piss fucking thing I'm gonna shoot Joey's piss a guy willing to do that and trusting that guy was finding your bladder he could shoot piss into your liver. Like who knows what this guy even understands levels that you do. So here I am certain on work, fucking nothing works and went damn at the pool. I'm like, oh shit, when you piss in the pool , the pool cleaner cleans all you this and not the pool would be green to exhibit it. So this is your logic. I went, I took the kids I took one of those cubes first crumbs, smashed it up and then I put it on my outside of a dick 'cause I'm uncircumcised. So I would pull the skin back and that would fall into the fucking piss. And then so he told me once again something happened last time you fucked up the machine or something like that, right? Then would insert condoms fill with someone else 's urine inside themselves, he said. Some athletes would inject urine into their bladders using a catheter. Oh god, they did do that. So that's real. So maybe that's how he did it. Maybe they used a catheter and that's how they put the face. But then there's the Wizardator. Yeah, that was the rubber dick. That's wasn't there some stuff that you could buy that you would get in like a head shop and supposedly talk to you. It was eighty nine. But does that stuff work? Nothing's real. Yeah, I always assumed that it wasn't real. I was screening. You're selling this at a headshot. Stuff from the nineties or some of the products. But the killer was when I used Draino. Okay, so this is all bullshit. Yeah. They just robbed. Yeah, they just rob people. Fetish urine. Look at that. Look at that label. Fetish urine. What the fuck does that mean? It's probably a way to sell it 'cause you have to say what you know, that's your piss. Not for human consumption. Oh, so that's your buying piss. Oh, so that's an actual bag of piss , right? Oh good lord. This one calls it Tinkle. It's fetish urine. So if you just like want someone to piss on you, but no one's willing. You very told the story about the guy with the gay club, the guy at the bathtub, everyone everybody was pissed on the tub. Yeah . And then that party Shaman took me to in that hotel next to the comedy store and they were getting pissed on in there, the women and then I wake up Saturday. I'm feeling good about myself and I'm on Twitter and I see Bonnie Blue. She had a dead chick is fucking. She got pissed on has a baby shop in her ass, people were pissing the pussy in her ass, and I'm like, somebody's got to stop that woman. She feels of her problems. Oh my god, a fucking baby shower . But I used the drain although that was the best because that destroyed the machine . But the truth of the matter is when he said something happened last time? Well, this would happen. I put the drain on my dick, and I walked up to the counter and I put on the it desk and he asked you questions. How's it been? And I'm looking at the thing and it's starting to foam. Like this thing . And it's coming out of the bag. He's watching . And I'm looking at this thing going, this motherfuck about that. And what he did was just picked it up and threw it in the bag like when they pick it up and test . Sometimes you leave the cop top off. That was a bull trick. You leave the top off and then it spilled . Oh no. So that buys you one extra week, but the time with the draino it started like it was like shaking at the thing like foam was coming out of the fucking sides and I locked it up good. That's what happened. There was no oxygen. That motherfucker was like, you know, boom. So I' puts it like put theting fucking thing He called me a few days later. He's like, listen, I wrote up a thing. I'm taking you to court because you broke the machine. This cannot continue. This cannot . This can continue. This can't continue. This is like a fucking cat and mouse game. What did you put in your body? What happened ? What the fuck is going on, Jose? hey, your machine sucks, your machine broke. And then asked nothing to do with me. No, and then they put me on like this hold. They're like, We're not even gonna piss you no more dog. We're done. We can't take this mental fucking So this is when you're in the probation department. Now they're gonna throw me back in community corrections 'cause they'll put you in for ninety days. And in all that, I met this fucking guy . For three months, we spoke like nothing, like gentlemen. I would talk to him him, saw once a week. And one day I said, What do you do? And he goes, I'm a district attorney in Boulder, Bill Wise I need a beef, I need a problem. I'm on this probation. They won't leave me alone. What do I do to get off? He goes, just have your attorney draw up a statement and I'll sign it and get you all probation and that was it . Just a guy I met on the street, Bill Wise, and then he got fired after the John Bonney Ramsay thing He was there during the whole Jon et Ramsay thing and everybody else fucking fired, I guess. I don't know. Bill Wise was a great dude, man. He was good to me. And I told him, he asked him what I did. I told him the truth. And he goes, did you learn from a mistake? Yeah. I'm here working, go, okay, pass it over and I'll sign up. I'm like, Oh my God, how fucking lucky am I? I'm done. I'm done. I was done . Started in ' eighty seven, and it was all the way to ' ninety one. For a year, I was fucking up them with the pee thing . Then they put me back in the house but in the halfway house and that was even worse. I was out of control in there. There was freaks in there, there's fucking everything in there. Freaky girls . I was stealing the air conditioner out of the conference room put it in my room. They couldn't heal, they couldn't handle me there either. They were like, Darl, you could just go home. We're not gonna fuck you anymore . And that's what you need. Just wear somebody ragging. They'll let you go eventually they'll just say you know what, man, it ain't worth it. You're never gonna stop . You're never gonna stop. And then a year later I had like an affair with one time. I had an affair with like the chick that worked in that office. She's the one the one that had leg. I did a little Chinese food to her. It never stopped. And you think of those chunks in your life and go, what the fuck was going on . Yeah, you're out of control. Like it's thirty one years and I still won't get back to Bold because of the shame I endured . Seriously, like I won't everybody goes, why don't you go back to Bold? Because I'm ashamed that that was such a beautiful city and I treated it like it was Newark . Right. Like I did what I wanted. I would go to Kmart, hang outside the fucking loan mall department and people would come out with new lawn mars and the receipt would fly off. I'd get that receipt and go to Longmont and get that long for four hundred and walk it up and go my mother bought me this I don't want it anymore. And I'd give them the receipt and they gave me four hundred cash plus tax. Who does that That fucking toys are us. I took that thing down by myself with those Jeffrey bucks . I took them down. What's a Jeffrey buck? It's like when you bring a stolen computer in there and they give you, they won't give you a cash. They'll give you Jeffrey bucks. So you have to spend it on in the fucking st ore. You know, I had a million dollars in Jeffrey Bucks at one time. I was buying bicycles and fucking it's just it just I was an animal and I feel really guilty about it today. I'm thinking of a book in the Fox Theater and Boulder and doing like because La Dizio's opening back up my Italian joint . So they call and they said we're opening back up and I'm like, I'm thinking of doing Boulder like Fox Theater, just take my lumps, apologize , donate to something there and just call it a fucking night because I still feel guilty man. I'm old, but now I feel guilty about the damage. I put Bolder through fucking eight I mean, I got chased through the mall by security and I'm throwing fucking CD's at him. I remember the Denver Brown Cos were playing Cleveland in eighty seven. Those big playoff games. You remember those, Jamie? Talking at the mall one day and everybody's in the hallway looking at TV's and I'm like, Who's minding the stores ? I went into radio shack and I popped out the fucking CD player brand new and just put the quarter on it and walked out like nothing who does that dog? That's animal. I'm ashamed to admit this shit, but it was like you said when you first went to Boulder the first time, you're like, this must have been a fucking grocery store for Joey Diaz. That's exactly what I said when I went there. He was a shame. Everybody's so they're so like peaceful and sweet I brought chaos . Yeah, chaos. And it was too much. When I was in the prison, I brought chaos in there. I had my cell open, I did what I wanted . It was just too much. And to this day, it's New York you could, shit like that that because's what New York is about. I was a fucking piece of shit in New York too, but I don't feel guilty about that. I still walk around the city now. That's so many pieces of shit in New York. Yeah. It was unique, but in Boulder, it didn't have anything like me. I was shaking down people. Some guy kept telling me, I saw you on A and E. Remember in the nineties and eighties, A and E was a mafia channel. They talked, Bill, whatever, talked about A and E to call your own family and this guy saw me when they're like, Hey, you're the guy that's in the witness relocation plan. This is eighty fucking nine. This is way before Sammy and all those guys went in. This guy's telling me you're a witness relocated guy, a little talent guy . I saw you on A and E. Your George the Animal something from Boston. I'm like, Dog, that's not me. Stop saying that. I already got problems in fucking Boulder. And you're telling people that I'm a witness relocated and off your guy . He pissed me off so much finally I just kicked this fucking dog down here like one of those Italian knick knack stores. I went in and I said, Dog, since I'm George the animal I am, you're going to give me two hundred a week. Bro, he started giving me two hundred a week for like three weeks. Then he called a sit down with Antonio Lodizio and Antonio was like, yeah, you got to keep paying him and the guy closed up shop like three weeks later and I never saw him again. A littleal toianw guy would always kick his shoes up. Don't, that's crazy shit. I was snorting coke on an ATM in Bolder. Next to Murphy's, there's an ATM you could walk into with the door. I would go in there with a case of beer at night and just put Coke on the metal, people would come and die . I can't take this shit back, but it was done and I can't undo it, you know ? But it bothers you now . Well, does it bother you or does it just make you? Listen confused nobody fuckin' nobody remembers half this shit I'm saying. Nobody ever remembered this shit. People on they moved on with their lives. They saw me they're like, that's a guy that kidnapped a guy . Not you know, my name was in the paper, my picture wasn't. They didn't have a picture of me, but everything else was in the fucking paper. It's a guilt. It's a weird fucking guilt, man. That I could have done so much better there. If I would have played if I would have played my card and I could have graduated college as a fucking astronaut because they were going to give me everything just because I was Cuban. They had no Spanish people at that college . They had only like eight blacks that played football, so they were doing anything to get Latinos. I would have been a fucking astronaut with a GED. Yeah, but we would have missed this Joey. Yeah, but it's good that it turned out this way. Let me ask you something. If you wouldn't have gotten into this fucking thing, what would you what would you think you'd be doing now? If I hadn't gotten into which one? This thing that would do. Stand up Comedy. No, stand up comedy opened up every week. What would I be doing? I don't know, man. I don't know. I probably would've fought again. Would you be a chef? Would you be, I mean, that could pin you as a che f, you love to cook. Yeah, I do love to cook. A chef, a mason. Found something that I enjoyed doing. What? I don't know. I would have figured it out. What's your second love? The real problem would be if I had a kid real young. So if you know, I know a bunch of my friends got married and had kids when they're like twenty two, twenty three . The problem is nothing wrong with that, but then that really limits your ability to just go for it because you have mouse to feed. That's a different animal. You know, I think about the early days of stand up when I was twenty one and how I had zero money. I mean zero I had zero money. I barely could eat. I remember at a big fucking jar of pennies and nickels, dims, and shit. And I remember rolling it all up so I could go get a sandwich. Like I had no money. And so I could imagine like if I was trying to do that, I said, well, I'm just gonna live like this for a couple years. And I think if I work hard enough, I could eventually start making money doing stand up. And if I keep getting better, maybe I could be a professional. You know, that was the idea. It was never like have a career. But if I had a kid and I had a wife there's no way I would have done it. There's no way I would have to have gotten a job . And that's where a lot of people get into , you know, or maybe you think it's going to be a good investment to get a house, which it is, but now you've got a mortgage. So you got a mortgage. You can't just fucking lose everything. I got my car repossessed. I was broke, man. I was broke. I used to have to hide my clone of the garage. Theyia were rep when Rossipa says shit . Yeah, I mean, it was one hundred percent checked to check. I don't have any money in the bank. I don't know if this ever happens to you, but it happens to me a lot though. And this is why I started this grateful shit because dead days I pull up to my house . I don't know who lives there . Yeah . I go who lives here . This is me? Really? No, it doesn't feel real. And then you ask you say yourself, this is the most important thing for people listening, I want you to listen to this. If you have a dream or a goal, you go , I got to pay for that with comedy , which I always thought of was just going to make up and laws a set. And I would have been fine with that if nobody would ever bothered me in my life. I would have been fine with unlows a set , getting in my beat up car and doing that, getting your dicks up, getting STDs, would have done all that shit, you know? That's what it is. So when you look at your house, whether it costs forty thousand or eighty million dollars and go, I paid for this , doing fifteen dollars sets at the comedy store. Yeah . When you got into this, you just wanted to survive . Never mind the fucking house and cars and you never dreamed of this with stand up. I know I didn't. I never dreamed of this with anything. No, I never thought it would be a person who had money. I dreamed of being a funny person and to be funny enough to make a living and stand up. Yeah. I never saw this part of it. So when I pull up in my house and I go that, paid was for twenty dollars sets . twenty five dollars here, fifteen here, one hundred here. Yeah, and that adds up. I'm not saying that, but that was paid by a dream. Yeah. Not a job, not something my family did. I wasn't forced into like raising lemons or whatever the fuck people do had a decent growing lemons . You know , seriously, we were born into this. This is something we got into and said , I just want to survive . I just want to be able to eat three meals and get enough gas to go to the next thing. Forget money in the bank. Forget it. It's overrated . I would never even open up a bank account. I didn't open up in bank accounts. I was forty years old. You know, I just ran on whatever the fuck. I would open and put twenty in and write a bounce check and fucking move on and pray that nobody caught you, you know? And people have no idea what that feeling is like. I get in my car and I go, holy shit. How many cars have I had that had a one of those bungee cords? Oh yeah, a bungee cord. I had a car when I first did comedy. I had to close the door with a bungee cord . I crossed my thing. It was like my combination seatbelt because if I took a fucking right turn, the door would open. You know, the door would just wing open. Now I'm in a car that's fucking I paid for with comedy, not drugs, not nice one . Not anything. No, whether it's nice or not, you paid for this without nobody's interfere nce with somebody with something that somebody told you you'd never be good at . You'd never be good at. Somebody at least said it to you one time, Joe. Come on, man, come on. You're never gonna do you think you're going to be on HBO f withucking Richard P rior and George Collin, you laugh, but you like that kind of right. They were fucking wrong. We didn't know it. We just didn't fucking know it. Well, it's like telling someone, I'm gonna run two hundred miles. Like, no, you're not. You can't even run around the block. Like, no, one day I'm gonna run two hundred miles. Like, no you're not. You're not going to run two hundred miles . And most of the time they're right . But if you're one of those motherfuckers , it says, Look, it might take me ten years to develop the endurance to run two hundred mil es. But I can't if I start right now . Next month, I'm gonna be able to run five miles , you know, and in six months, I'll be able to run ten miles, and then I'm gonna keep going. But then you quit before the miracle happens. Well, actually somewhere along the line. How many people do we know they quit? How many people do we know that were really talented that were really funny? I'm just disappeared. And now you see him anybody. But there's a few guys and there's this one guy at the early days of the com stedorey that I really tried to help. I connected him to my manager and I was like, This guy's legit. I'm like, You're funny, dude. Like, you're good. If you just fucking st and had a bunch of personal problems, had a kid , I think he had some legal issues . Damn, but that guy I'm like, I'll tell you later who it was. No, I know it was. Yeah, yeah. But I was like, that motherfucker was funny. He was funny. Way funny than I was. He was great. Like it was his fun dude to be around. He was a cool dude. I was like, he's gonna make it. There was people I looked at and I go, They're way funny than I am. Holy fuck Both the same age too. We were like twenty seven when I first met him . And I connected with my manager and he was like, nobody ever did anything like that for me before. Nobody tries to help me. Nobody. I was like, listen, man, you'll do it too now. You'll make it and then you'll do it too. Well, I'll do it. It's it helps and it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt you at all to help somebody but it helps them and it helps you. It helps you feel better. You feel better that you're helping someone. It's like it's a like I would say that being generous is kind of selfish in a way 'cause you feel better too. Like when I'm generous, I feel better. I do. Yeah, yeah, we all do. And when we're kind and when we try to help people, you feel better. It's good for you. It's good for everybody. And it's like, that's a message that the world needs to hear. Like you could be good to people. And if you're good to people and you're nice to people, it'll help you too. If you find someone who's got something, you got and you're doing a thing, like you're doing a thing. And there's someone who's got a spark. There's a little talent , help though. Help them. Help those people. Give them advice, give them a push, let them open for you. Watch their set, give them some feedback, help 'em . 'Cause, you know , we're not in the comedy business, Joe. I've never been in the comedy business. I don't know what anybody's talking about. We're in the Karma business . It's a little that. I'm in the karma business. I am not in the karma. My goal every day is to make somebody's day. One person , a woman at a supermarket, you look fucking bad at a motherfucker today. I don't stop it, Joey. Yeah , that. I just made her a fucking day. Her husband sees her every day and never tells her she's banging. And I'm going up to this lady. I don't even know, I'm like, damn, if I was twenty years younger, you know, and they're older than me, like they 're you know, that's my thing every day. Just make somebody's day. One person . You can't save the world , but one day a gesture, a handshake , a couple dollars is not going to set you back. That is kind of what you 're if you're doing a thing or you're doing something that people enjoy , like think about like your sets. Like think about how many people have gone to see you and you change their night. Gone to see you, like how many nights at the store people come in? You want to see a show? Yo let's go see a show. You go on stage and rock that fucking place. They leave, they're holding their side. Like , and then they go out and get something to eat afterwards. Everybody says that fucking thing about and they're dying like that change change people's evenings . You change their feelings, you change the way they feel, and you feel good because of it. It's like this weird exchange. The reason why we love killing , especially people that are really good at it, what they love is that they're making other people happy. That's really what you love. I love it. You're making people happy and you feel happy because you're making it and when you don't, oh, you feel terrible. I feel I do better when I look at the audience and they're laughing and I laugh with them. Once I laugh, you're done. Yes, you're done. Yeah. Once I start laughing and giggling, if it's real parties, yeah. No, it's real. We're having fun. It's real. Yeah. It's real. When I look out there and I see somebody that should not be laughing and they're laughing at something blueish shit that I said and I don't expect them to laugh. That's what makes me laugh or the look on their face with the shock of you saying something , that's what always kicks me into this fucking mode. You know, yeah. It's beautiful. The other thing I want to talk about this podcast because I was talking to a friend of mine in Jersey Stander . And this is the other thing people don't see . We're very blessed because we went to LA or the fuck we went and one day you're talking to somebody and two weeks later they're in the fucking biggest movie in Hollywood. Yeah . And it's very hard to explain to people to sit believing, in yourself and just keep showing up and that this happens . But since people don't see that happen in their world , in Jersey, what do you see? A guy hits the lottery , he can wins a million dollars. That's their way out of this life . For us, it was like we had we saw too many people make it like this . Like one day they had nothing and the next day they're on CBS fucking doing the show for eight years with whether it's Kevin or whether it's Yep fucking the other guy, the great guy from Pittsburgh, you've seen that. So it gives you hope. Now at that situation , you could say, fuck that dude, he's a fucking loser. You could go good for him. He just moved the notch up a little bit so I could get on that conveyor line . That's the beauty of it. Not looking at that person going, fuck him. He sucks. He stole my joke in Pittsburgh. Who gets a fucked about Pittsburgh in eighty nine? Guys on TV now. You know, whatever he is, be happy because you're next. You know him. You fucking do sex with him. Right. You're there in the rotation of them at the story night and all that it happened for you today. It happens. So once you see it, you go, oh shit, okay. Now I know what I need to do. That's if you're real. That's if you're real. I need to get off coke. I need to cut the shit out. I need to do this, this and this, just to get me closer to that , because I see it too much. I see people living in an apartment with eight people and next thing they got a house in Beverly Hills. Most people don't see that. Right. So it's tough to explain to them what they 'cause everybody thinks you're going to hit the lottery and your life's gonna change. Boy, are they mistaken? Everybody thinks ten million dollars is going to change their life and make them a better person. It's not, it's not. We think it's going to happen. Like when you were broke all those years, you used to say I can't wait to have money. You never said I can't wait to have money for what? I never thought I would have money. Me neither. I never said I can't wait to have money. My thought was I want to like make a living. That's it. That's it. That's why I was. Even when I first started with standup, like it was just to make a living. It was just doing this thing. I was a fucking loser in like regular society. I was good at kicking people. I was a loser in regular society. I was like , I didn't graduate college. I barely got out of high school. I wasn't paying attention. I didn't care about school . All I cared about was whatever I cared about, whether it was drawing or whether it was martial arts. Those are the things that I cared about. That's it. So I always felt like I just need to find a way to live because I'm never gonna be a successful person. I had like resigned myself to that. I had no aspiration. You know, I felt you were way worse than me. You were in and out of jail? No, I had no family, felonies, no G D . I was set to fucking die. Yeah . And that little fucking accident I had when I was twenty five years old, you know, it's like right now you go and you look at the news and there's this big thing going on by the ice facility by my house in Jersey in Newark. They keep racking banging. And I'm sitting there going , that's how stupid we are as Americans. I don't know if Americans know this shit. When you go to jail, you lose all your rights. You know, I don't go to j jailail because that sleep apnea machine doesn't mean nothing in jail . We don't care you dying right. You know what you have to do to get them sleep apnea machine in jail. You got to go to the manufacturer have to send it to you directly which, we'll get into later, but my point is that fucking , what was my point? I don't even know I got so high before. Your point was that you never thought you were going to go anywhere. I never thought I was going to go anywhere so comedy came around and you realize, oh, this is a thing that I can do. But all I wanted was four thousand a month . In my mind, I was such a loser that I said to myself, if I can make four thousand a month, I'm a millionaire. And today , four thousand a month doesn't even get your rent. Right. Not even nothing. Back then, four thousand a month was like eight thousand a month. Yeah, eight thousand a month. Now, and you would say, okay, if I made a hundred grand a year, I can live. Like you can live off a hundred grand a year and be comfortable. Like that's the goal. The goal was always just to be comfortable . But the thing with you is I realized this like very early on you were going to it was going to take a different path. Like I remember watching like you emerge when you really start like killing on stage and I was saying and then you know all these agents you remember I had that one agent that would get mad that would take you He would get mad. I was like, What the fuck is Rob? I don't think he's fine. I don't think he's talented. I go, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't know anything. I go, why does he make me laugh so hard? He's like, Well, you're a degenerate. Like you're a crazy person. You got to realize the audience is offended and that's your audience like shut the fuck up. I knew that you were a different path . So for you , your emergence came with the emergence of the internet . And when the internet came around and we started doing podcasts I'm like, this is the way that Joey's gonna break because they'll get to see you. When I told stories when I listen, it's like twenty four seven on HPO. You may hate fucking I don't know, throwing your name up. You may hate that boxer for some reason. He's whatever, he's cocky , but then they show you his house and they show you he's got four daughters and they show you that he wakes up every morning and feeds the daughters. You thought he was a fucking animal. In the cage he's an animal. But in life he's just a regular guy. And you get to see that and go, No, I like him. I don't see a guy that just punches people in the head. I see a guy that look at him. He's got fucking makeup on for his daughters and he's cooking breakfast every morning. Then he goes trains like that Jason, what was his name? The big young brother from New York, C Aitylexander , remember he came and he was knocking heads and they found out he couldn't do Jujitsu, great guy though. Houston Alexander. Yeah, yeah. I watched that thing out there. He was raising four girls. His wife, the cracked mom left. That dude was a tank. He was a tank and he would train in the mornings and then go home cook for the kids. Remember when he knocked out Keith Jardine ? Big upset. Big upset. Big upset. And then Jardine just tried to take him out, and Houston Alexander was throwing. Baum e was big and fucking strong. Jack. Jack he was a radio DJ . You know, he was a radio DJ. I didn't know that. Yeah, he was a hip hop DJ. Find out where Houston Alexander love to know he is like a big DJ 's like he was successful. He always talked to me at the airport. Very good guy. Very good guy. Very good. I was like, wow . But you know, I knew that once I was able to tell my story, where I came from, it was what I didn't know how to do it on stage . Then after I did a podcast over the years I got better enough to learn how to do it on stage. But you did figure out how to do something on stage that was the switch and the switch was you figured out how to be Joey Diaz in the parking lot on stage on stage. that was killing me. But it went like that. Like that. I never saw anybody flip a switch from struggling on stage to crushing like you. I was like, this is wild. And I'm gonna tell you some of the reasons. I was too focused on material . You're too focused on your fucking material and you know what at the end of your material sucks. I've heard already. And that's what I would think in my mind. So I would do better when I went up there just with one thought and attacked it. Do you know what I mean? I mean, it's hard to explain what I'm saying to you . Yeah , no, you what you did was you treated the audience like they were your boys and were all hanging out versus treated the audience like I'm a comic, here's some jokes. Like when you first started when, I first did I meet you in ninety six? ninety seven. ninety seven. When I first met you, you were doing jokes. Right. Go on stage and do . You focus on the jokes on that paper. Don't focus on that. At eleven thirty at the store, your jokes don't mean shit. They just saw three hours of top notch comedy. What are you bringing to the table? You're going to go up dan tell me what I saw on the news and who taught us that? Paul Mooney, how to relax . He would just go up there in my mind. He was just vibing with the audience. He did a lot of that. And it worked and I took that realm relax . Mooney taught us a lot. Relax. He was a real veteran, you know, he was like one of the only guys when we were there that was there during the prior years prior years. And was respected . He wasn't like one of those. There was a few guys that were still hanging around that had a no literally ax from the night. They were still doing like Spruce Springsteen jobs there. It was just bad. But his laid back Yeah, attitude top ical too. Always new shit. Anytime new shit was going on the news, he had ten solid minutes on it . And quick . Yeah, that day. If you happen told him he was that night, that day. Remember he was crushing on stage once. We were dying in the back room and he was, oh, that's right. I write Motherfucker. I write. Yeah, no, no. We were dying. That calmness taught me how to I was going up there and rushing . Yeah. I was going up there and two mistakes. Rushing and worrying about that material like it was Bible. Right . I'll give you an example Sometimes I get an audition , right? When I was doing a lot of auditions. And this is when I learned that early on when I was auditioning , that if I focused on that line, those lines, I wasn't going to book that part . So I had to dip into Marlon Brando's fucking tools. Marlin Brando didn't read shit. He put those signs on you. So you felt more organic . But it wasn't even that. It was know who your character is. I could tell you they go fuck your mother eighteen different ways . Right? Right? So it's the same thing . You have to just learn not the words, but what he's trying to say in there . You don't need the words. The words are bullshit. What is this guy trying to say in there? Yeah, you take some of the sentences that he's saying, but you slow it down. And that's what he did in that scene when he tells everybody if my son should hang by a bolt of lightning , you then I'll Marlenbrand in the hotel scene. That's a beautiful fucking scene if you love that shit like I do. All those motherfuckers were wearing signs. You've seen the behind the scenes of that . So their words, the script was on papers. So Duval was sitting across room with a billboard. That's hilarious. That boss was sitting across room and you see him, like he'd just looked up and that I will not forgive . And he'd take another pause and look at another cue card because he wanted to be organic . He didn't want it to sound like those fucking lines just write or wrote. Right. And that's for everything. If you know the character, I know the character, I know me . Everybody had science dogs. That is really crazy . But it worked. Crazy. Did it work? In the Godfather, did it work? Okay, so go, fuck yourself. It was watching this thing where they were very skeptical about him playing. Oh, did you see the Sony thing? Yeah. Sony series. Very good. Yeah, very good. Very Yeah. What an interesting imagined skeptical about Marlon Brando playing the godfather. Well, brother, he had shot a movie Beauty on the Bounty and they went down there and the motherfucker fucked that chick , and he wasn't even directing anymore. He was in a hut. He gave like the AD, the camera. You didn't hear about that? Yeah. That's a huge story. That's apocalypse now, right? No, no. And then Apocalypse now, he went to a meeting, they gave him all this loot, and they told me you got to show up one eighty. Like you're supposed to be a green bure. Right. He showed up four hundred. Well, that's why they kept him in the dark, right? They kept him in the dark and he shaved a bar shirt. You know, he didn't give a fuck. He did it however and that's why they hated him. But at the same time, you gotta love the motherfucker because it's working. Yeah, well it was authentic , right? Yeah, that Apple TV show was very interesting. It was very I met that dude. Remember, he created the longest yard . Al Ruddy did the longest yard from scratch . When he did the godfather , I think he didn't take two and he went to do the longest yard. He loved it . So he created the longest yard. So when we shot our longest yard he was there every Friday for his little checky poop. Big motherfucker. Big dude, dog. Good dude, big hands and shit. We'd just talk to you about stuff. Good dude . So I got it like that motherfucker, you know, Peter Brudy, and I think he did something else after that. Look at the movies he did. Look at the movies, he said, Jamie, when you get a minute, Paul Rudy's films. What was that other question that I'd asked you earlier ? About? I asked you to look something up. Forget Omaha. Yes, omaha. Yes, Omaha. That's what it is . What radio station ? Is he still doing it? Yeah, it says he currently is. He currently is still. Look at that. We got to call him. I think he fought recently . I think he had a fight like within the last couple of years . Didn't this says twenty seventeen for MMA box? Bare knuckle boxing in twenty twenty three. That's it. Yeah . One on four of his bare knuckle fights. Yeah . Bare knuckle fighting dude's a DJ . UFC veteran. It's a fuckin. Let's get some bare knuckle fights in. Fucking great is that you could DJ and then go fight somebody else. Crazy. Yeah. And that's life, man. That's life that's worth living. You got your money. You're getting your money's worth life. You get your money's worth. You wanna sit at home, be sanitary, whatever, live like, you know, watching TV and you're scared they're gonna bomb you. You're done. You gotta keep talking liberties and that's what, you know? Yeah, you gotta do things. That's the thing about life. You got to do things. Too many people just sit around wanting to do things and not doing anything . It's hard to get moving, though. That's what a lot of people find. They find it's hard to like go out to that club for that first open mic, step into that gym the first time. Like DROD Daniel Rodriguez, did you see that podcast? We talked about how we got arrested in Tijuana. You know D R fromOD the UFC? Yeah . So D Rod beats Kevin Holland , right? Goes to San Diego celebrating and his boy's like, let's go to Tijuana. Fuck yeah, let's go to Tijuana. Just go to drink, have a good time. He just won a huge fight. Top fifteen UFC Welterweight has an ounce of weed in his bag. He thinks, well, weed's legal in California, weed's decriminalized in Mexico, who cares? Maybe I'll bribe somebody, I'll get out of this . It's a federal offense to bring weed in. And even though weed's decriminalized in Mexico, it's not for visitors . It's only for Mexican citizens . Yeah , bro. How'd you get out of that one one? Well, of the things he had to do was become a Mexican citizen. So he's got dual citizenship now. Yeah. He was in jail for fucking eight months, man. Oh my god. Yeah, he was just training in jail. He looks great. He looks great now, but when he got out , he's like, I had no protein. So I'm in there working out every day with fucking eating noodles and potato chips. No protein. No protein. And so he got real thin. Like he showed a photo of him like the day he got out. I mean, his motherfucker was training every day twice a day in jail. He's like, I'm gonna make the most out of this, but he has no food. The food's terrible. So his body is wasted away. I think I used to get broken. He couldn't. He asked. He tried to get it. Yeah. He said, You get girls, you get all these different things. He goes, he couldn't get fucking good food. In Mexico. In Mexico. Yeah . And he was a cellmate with a cartel guy. The cartel guy took care of him. The cartel guy recognized him, we take care of you, hang out with us. And he just said, I'm going to keep my nose down and just train. But he said he got a bunch of guys training with them because they were inspired. They're like, fuck yeah, let's train with Debrod. So all these guys in there. He said some of them were fucking talented. Prison's fun. I don't give a fuck when anybody tells you. Once you get to your destination and you meet your homies and you create a little thing, it's like anything else. We just can't step out the walls. But you make it happen. I laughed a lot in there, bro. I laughed. I bet you did because nobody's funny in prison than black people. I don't give a fuck what they tell you. They're the true kings of the prison system . And I had the two best . I had the two best . And you know, sometimes that's where you first did stand up, right? First it'd stand up just for the inmates. Yeah. Wednesday, Thursday night just talked some shit. During the movies, they would go, this movie sucks. They'd be like PT one hundred nine. You know, we don't want to see f ucking Kennedy in a movie. Get up there Cuba and I would just go up there and fuck around. And it was nothing that was I ever thought about anything. Like you said something before, thinking about the first time you went to that open mic, boy was that scary for me. Terrifying. It took me eight months. I was such a pussy. I would call it Cromy works in Denver every week and every week I'd cancel. There he did, you got three minutes bot. I don't feel good . And then my ex wife, God bless her as much as I hate her, she heard me on the phone and she asked her mother to babysit . And she drove me down and I got on stage, I'm getting off that stage going, how am I gonna do this? I'm married with a kid and three months later she came and she was like, You're a loser. I don't want to be married to you no more. I'm like, Yes . Holy fuck . You just did me fucking solid. Then she did me shitty afterward. But the point is she at least got me to that open mic. So I have to be grateful for something that she did, you know? It's the hard the first step's the hard one. You know, what I was saying about DROD like the first time he ever went to the gym, his girlfriend got him a membership . She was like, 'cause he drove by it a bunch of times. He thought about training, never went in. He had a bunch of street fights, but never went in. He's like, I think I could do that. And then finally, she's like, look, I got your pres ent. I got your membership. Hold that thought, can I go pee k? We're at the two hour market. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. I got to go pee and we're back. That was a tremendous pee. Oh my God The worst is when you try to concentrate and you have to piss . No, that's the worst. You can't believe it. That's the fucking worst. You have to drive and shit and you have to pee. And I'm to an age I just pull over. Yeah. Highway, whatever. I open up the boat doors and I may believe I'm looking for something and that dick is out peeing like I pee on the little league field and then I got after the surgery, they gave me handicapped spark and I'm living like a doctor . You don't know what life is until you have handicapped parking dog. You just pull right up . It's always a spot . Always . Yeah . Like four feet away . When I got in the male dog , I was happier. That made me so happy . Talk walking. When I go to events now in Philadelphia, I just pull out and shoot . Put a neck brace on, walk out and shit. Oh , it's been beautiful, Joe. What do you have to do to get one of those? The doctor. That's it. The doctor was like, Oh, do you have it after surgery? I get a feed for six months . And then he goes, hold on one second. He went online and he's like, Dog, you qualify for everything. You got everything on this list, everything, go. And they gave it to me for fucking like three years. Oh, nice. Yeah, I fucking, oh, tremendous joke. How does it feel right now? You're all right? Yeah, it feels okay. Listen, what happens is you do something every week , like the second week I went, third week I went, a couple of weeks I went boxing and it was good for like three times. And one day I went and I had a plan, twenty for five minutes, eight rounds on the bag or the speed bag, but I do the bags and I often hate the bags. Sure enough, round number six, one of the guys comes over and he goes, Joey, let's hit the mitz. I'm excited. You know, he's a young guy. Let's do it. I left Dam my fucking leg blew up from that right punch to cross because everything walks into it. You're also moving around when you're moving around. So I said, fuck it. Now I got to stand in front of the bag. So I learned my lesson . And then last week I went to PT and that motherfucker had me. I mean, I love 'em . But TJ, this motherfucker had me doing deadlifts, sliffs and wall squats with a thing where you weight on the back and cool. So it's all just a strengthen the muscles back . You have to, you have to strengthen. But I prepped. I listened to you guys. You know, I did everything I could before the surgery. That's what made it easier . Made a lot easier. I called Directory. I was doing shit in five days. I didn't have a can e no more, you know, I was done. I started driving at eight days . Not because I couldn't, but because I was sick and tired of my wife driving me places and I got to, you know, argue with her in the right hand lanes. No problem. Yeah, like a motherfucker. Wow. That's correct. It was the right foot, which is the accelerated brake combo. So yeah , but yeah, I was out of the house. You know, the pain pills were done after eight days, then I had to bring them back for PT. They were fucking killing me after PT . So after PT you pop on, go home, put ice on it, rub it down with the cream and stay off it for an hour or two. But then at night I take a walk around the neighborhood. He said, You're trying to strengthen this shit. Right. You know, we're talking about it outside. Let's say you're in a hospital for five days and you eat cereal for five fucking days. You gain weight . Your muscle breaks down and goes away like five days stay in a hospital could fucking kill you. Just 'cause again, there's not that much protein. You're not getting one hundred and fifty grams of protein a day. And you're not moving. And you're not moving. So that's the big one. I prepped for the surgery. I took all the supplements ways to well to meld Besberine , I took shit my fucking pisses like glows in the dark at night. Purple, yellow, it's fucking amazing. I did all my PTs, all my BPCs one hundred and fifty seven, all my TB five hundreds, I did them for fucking to the T like they told me to . And you know, listen, I'm sixty three and it's a sixty three year old knee. So I don't expect to be in the UFC fighting Nogara next week, but I can walk around and enjoy life with no fucking pain. Or no, it's not pain. It's like you always have an issue. You know it. Yeah. You always have that thing with your knees, sometimes it sticks, well, then you gotta do simple shit. You gotta get your piece of paper put it on the floor and just roll your heel back and forth twenty times and do kicks when you're sitting around. All those things help the knee. You get that band and you put it on your leg and you just straighten out your leg . I do that at home. This is shit I do at home, you know, instead of watching TV, it takes fifteen fucking minutes. Fifteen fucking minutes of your time. And I got the bullworker. They sent me a bullworker. What's that? The thing I told you last time about it's isometric shit. Oh, okay. So did the I bullworker, I did the deadlifts at the bulworker. Now I'm fucked because I don't know how to change the strings . So I got to learn how to fucking change the strings. But that's all it was. It was preparing for the surgery. Right. You can't just go in there and not strengthen the little muscles around the area. Yeah. That's it . Yeah, you gotta do something. It's very important, especially if you're gonna go into surgery. I know a lot of people that have had knee surgery and didn't do that. They won't go to PT. They're like, You don't go to PT, what the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah. That's they came, listen, I had the surgery Thursday they were in my house knocking Friday fucking afternoon. I was home Friday from the hospital and they said they're coming over today . Mother fucker had me going up and downstairs, walking outside with the cane, getting in out of the tub. He was why I don't even have a tub. I have a walking child, but he was like, I'm going to do everything with you. So it was pretty fucking like I said, this surgery was a lot better . The company that I did business with was a lot better . Last time I did a center state , that's like a medical network in New Jersey. Not bad. They have a great facility there, but you know , when I went to do the surgery, my acupuncture said, When you go talk to that guy the day before the surgery, ask him about the sanitary conditions at that hospital. So when I went, I said, Hey, what's the sanitary conditions at the hospital? He's like, Ah, you hear rumors . And then when I went for the surgery , they prepped me up, they gave me everything, and they gave me the IV. They were right about to do that thing of me right back . And he said, We're not doing the surgery. I don't agree with Sanitari. I was pissed, but I'm like happy. I could have done the doctor didn't agree with the sanitary conditions. He came out and said, Oh, no, not to that. We'll do it next week at a different hospital. What? Yeah. That's crazy. So were people getting mercer or something? Something that mercer in there and they're like, No, everybody was telling me be careful with the mercer in that hospital. Merc is fucking terrifying. But the funny thing was they gave you twenty milligram actually , which they never gave you. That's a strong motherfucker. I forgot I took it. Remember I told you . I forgot. I'm in a Chinese restaurant yelling, Gino. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with me? Oh shit. I took that twenty . I was fucking for eight hours on that thing. So they give it to you before the surgery. Yeah, just one other precaution. They did that. The precociation. Yeah, precaution, whatever, the fucking. So you don't wake up in the middle of the surgery, yelling fucking screaming like a pussy . They do that. The epidoral was tough because I felt it in my nutsack. Like they give you a couple shots and one of the shots made me actually go like this because I felt it on the bottom towards the end of the nutsack, not a meat potatoes part, but towards the end close to the muffler . I was like, this is not Bueno Dog. What is the thing they do I saw this video online about it. It's like I think it's called nerve ablasion. I might be making that up, but they literally like cut the nerves off when people have back pain. Like some people with back pain it's like they're in constant nerve pain and they were showing how they just snip the nerves and I was like, wait wait a minute. Could that hinder your movement? Like what is what happens there? Is this it? Yeah, so what is that? Radio frequency ablation for back pain management. What does it mean? Like what is that? What do they do? Because the way I was looking at it online, I'm like, it looks like they just cut the nerves . A minimally invasive outpatient procedure uses heat to intentionally damage nerves carrying pain signals from the spine to the brain, primarily provides long lasting relief for chronic back pain caused by arthritis or facet joint degeneration . Wow . But does that mean your back just keeps getting worse but you don't feel it? What happens when you do that? Duration ? Back please . The procedure typically takes thirty to sixty minutes. You can usually go home the same day . Pain relief is not immediate. It often takes one to three weeks for the nerve to fully settle. Relief typically lasts anywhere from six to twelve months , although it can last for several years for some patients. Are the nerves permanently destroyed? No, the nerves regenerate over time. When the nerve grows back, your pain may return, but the procedure can be repeated. Was the recovery in risks? What's the risks? Complications are rare, but include infection, bleeding at the insertion site, temporary numbness, or skin irritation. Oh, normal stuff Huh interesting. Paint. That's nuts, man. Just shut shut off the paint. You kind of want to know if it hurts, though, no. I would imagine like you're doing more damage if it hurts . Right? It's like cortisol. You're numbing it. Right. And then it keeps getting worse, but you don't feel . Well, especially cortisone with cortisone , you can only do that so many times for like joints. It can degrade tendons and stuff because some people with their knuckleheads, they just keep getting cortisone shots next thing your shoulder falls apart. You don't know. That's the worst thing. Yeah. You could tear tear . That's what they'll let you do if you let them. So this is what I'm saying unless you check out what options. Listen, this twenty, twenty six man . I'm scared of needles, and I'll tell you half my life, I fucked up because I was scared of needles . If I would have just , I don't know what it was. I was just scared of needles . Now I fucking take a needle wherever the fuck you want to give it to me . You know what I'm saying? Like now you can shoot me when I'm standing up. I don't once you get used to doing peptides, needles shit. And those just diabetes needles. They don't do fucking good to stop taking medicine if you don't want to that makes sense . So if you're in pain anyway so a success rate is seventy to eighty five percent . It's most stressful when the procedure targets the medial branch nerves responsible for facet joint arthritis . Success typically defined as fifty percent or greater reduction in lower back pain , better physical function, reduced need for pain medication. That's big because some people they're just fucking especially back stuff, some people are just in agony every day. They wake up and they're just in agony . And it's a long road back you know to getting if you have back pain it's, a long road to heal that shit. And you got to be very, very smart about it. And you gotta stretch. That's one thing that a lot of people don't like to do. A lot of lower back pain, a lot of that is just everything's tight and you can stretch and relieve a lot of that shit. A lot of that. Yoga comes in handy. You don't go anymore, do you? You don't go anymore. I do a lot of yoga things though. A house? I haven't yeah. I actually have a yoga room in the studio. I've never used it . We got a heated room. We could crank that fucker up to one hundred five degrees and do that. I haven't done the real light then. I'll tell you what else I did after the surgery that worked. Hyperbaric chamber. Oh yeah. That's big. I did that twice a week. I still got huge levels for recovery for recovery that's fantastic. And my oxygen levels are always low, Joe. I got to figure I got to talk to Waze to Altimore. Every morning I wake up eighty eight percent, you know, I'm always in the red zone. I got to because I think lack of oxygen is helping me burn fat and a lot of other shit. My oxygen's on eighty eight some days eighty fucking five . Why would that help you burn fat? Because you need oxygen to do everything. You need oxygen for a fucking fire. So if you have low oxygen, you burn fat. How can you recuperate? How can you fully recuperate with no oxygen in your fucking ? I think I don't fuckin' none . I'm not sure that's correct, but I think that the more you exercise, the more you're going to get oxygen in your system for sure. Barric paint chamber will help. But once you're like fully healed up and you can really exercise on a regular bas is, it'll get back to normal. Not because I do breath exercise every morning. And that's what you have to do. You have to breathe through your nose like ten times and then hold it and then I take the what do they think is causing it? The low oxygen? They don't know. They don't know nothing. They don't know nothing. They don't want to find out nothing . But I'll take the cord and the clip that you put on your finger, I put on my ear. It gives you a better read. What's more accurate? So far the ear for me. I learned that from an old Filipino lady. Oh yeah, in the hospital, she had all the tricks . So I do that. I test it. You know, when I wake up in the morning I have it, I check my blood pressure like twice a day. It's the best in spinning twenty fucking years . I think some of those fitbits can do that shit now. Can they do that? Do they measure oxygen levels? So some of those really advanced wearable devices can measure oxygen levels too now, I think. Is that real ? Or is it a deal? Yeah, yeah, they all do. They all do. That's part of the deal. They measure your heart rate, heart rate variables. Like those wearables, like the wrist stuff? Yeah. Oh, really? So I'll tell you what I got in mind. I got what the fuck in the mornings. It tells you what are you wearing? A whoop . Yeah, what's the does that ? Yeah, test oxygen levels ? No , it has respiratory rate. I got to get back on the whoop. It's got I used to use it all the time. But they've gotten they've gotten even better. Yeah, this one is a lot better. My heart rate's good today. My oxygen's ninety one 'cause I'm here with you and my skin temperature is minus one, so takes all that shit. My problem with wearables is all these tattoos . So like this , oh okay, it's reading it now. This reads my heart rate. This is a garment. It reads my heart rate. Something now it's not. Like it doesn't read through the tattoos very well. I have to like move it around. Fucking insane. Yeah, that's fucking insane. You can't read through the tattoos. Because the inks in the way. You know, it's literally using some sort of a visual system . It's like it's light. Like if a look at the back of the watch there 's like a light back there . Yeah, I have the same that is flashing all your veins and then it somehow or another gets information from that and that's how it tells you. Yeah, they're the same . Yeah. So the problem is all these tattoos. I thought about like removing my tattoos just around the circle where the watch goes just like go get it lasered. I might do it I don't see that anyway. I'm always no, I always have a watch on. And so like now it's reading. They're speaking about, you know, burning your nerves and all that shit and that thing that I remember one year I had a phone I still got a fungi toenail, but I had a really bad fungi toenail and I saw a thing in group on for a company in studio city that blow toys it with heat for six sessions. Did you kill the fungus? Yeah, no, it never worked, but I went anyway. The lady would put like a mask on fucking and she'd look at my toe like you could see a fucking and she was burning it. You could smell the fungus burning. It smells like dead fucking assholes . And she would be there and I would ask her question so she'd have to pull the masks off . Take a whiff of this fucking fungi toenails . Oh, there's times I buff it out myself now because nobody will buff it out for me. Like I can't take it to a Chinese woman. They'll lose their mind. Can you put like anti fungus cream? I put everything on it. It's too deep. This fungus runs deep. This is the fungus I brought back from Cuba. And it's fucking pops up from time to time. I get under my tit, like it just the fungus just grows. I don't know what I have to eat. Like some days I eat something and it backfires and I get all these fungus mark s. I get all itchy and shit out of creepy . But this bitch burnt that toe for six weeks and every week I would ask her more creepy questions and she would have to take that mask off and smell that fungus dog. It was horrible. When she would walk out, she closed the door. Like I was like, no . And the thing never worked. She never burned me once, but she was serious with that blow torch. It didn't work. No, it did not. I told you the fungus is too deep, so to get rid of that, you have to do a liver test to see how strong because the zapping is fucking hard on your body and it's really hard on your liver , so my liver didn't cut it so they can zap me with that medication . Did you hear about that lady who had Alzheimer's? She couldn't talk any more they gave her five grams of psilocybin mushrooms. And she's singing opera now. All of a sudden she came back. It's unusual. Talking ? They said she hadn't talked in a long time . She could remember things . I know for a fact. I got a good buddy mine that studded. That was his childhood thing. Every time you smoke crack, you should have seen that motherfucker another threat in there. He talks you straight. Paul, you know, Paul Stammeth, the mushroom expert. He's been on this podcast many times . He's a legitimate mycologist, like a scientist. He had a horrible stutter when he was a kid. Took ten grams. Gone. Gone. Gone. It's unreal. People are still going . Mushrooms are deadly. They're going to kill you. Fuck you. Isn't that crazy? You need to see the devil every once in a while in your life and that's what people don't. They don't see the downside because eating those mushrooms from time to time makes you step out like THC does and makes you look at yourself and make like a judgment call on what the fuck you're doing with your life. What's going on with your life? You chewing that fucking zinn and talk at the same time? Yeah, I don't know. I don't have big enough fucking gums, I guess. I don't know. Don't stay there . Yeah, it's the real problem is that it's illegal. You know what they should do with that? You know, what they did with Colorado with thirty nine percent tax, make mushrooms a hundred percent. Tax it a hundred percent. We'll still buy people still buy. Make it legal, tax it one hundred percent. You know how much fucking money they would generate ? And I guarantee you , well , I was going to say people wouldn't be doing more mushrooms, but they definitely would. If you mean good for everybody. Listen, the only thing that stalls people from mushrooms is the taste. Most people put it in a grinder and then they put it in capsules and they do it that way . All different things . That should not be a hurdle on. When you told me you were gonna get that property a couple of years ago, which you didn't get , I thought you were gonna grow mushrooms out there . Get somebody to set it up and Joe Rogan's mushrooms. I would never do your fucking recipe like no it's that 's not legal. I would not Texas . It's not legal federally. That's the problem. I mean, this is part of what Trump is trying to change with this psychedelics . So all that shit was made illegal in nineteen seventy. It was the Nixon administration, the Controlled Substances Act . If that hadn't happened in nineteen seventy, we'd be living in a better world. Like legitimately we would be living in a better world. You'd have way more people having access to this stuff, way more people that could get over whatever the fuck their hurdle is, whatever problem they have, whatever it is . Not for everybody. There's a lot of people that shouldn't do it. There's a lot of people that are schizophrenic and that they just need one mushroom trip and one place gone that we're never coming back. There's a lot of people that are hanging on. They're hanging on and one edible , one mushroom trip, one , one meeting with the devil and they never come back. That's true, but those people were already fucked. That's the problem. But for the rest of us, for the rest of the world , which is like most things. Like some people eat a Brazil nut, they're dead, right? Some people eat peanuts and they're dead. They have a deadly allergy to peanuts. I could eat peanuts all day long. When you look up how many people diarr fromhea p ucking peanuts? It's quite a few. Come on. Yeah, it's quite a few. It's kind of shocking. Some why? Well, here's the really crazy thing . A lot of people think it has to do with vaccines. They think this is Brett Weinstein's proposal is that when you take that vaccine, so there's aluminum in the vaccine that's an irritant, right? And this is what fires up your immune system. And then there's the dead virus. So your body develops these four annually. It's a lot of people . No, four whole people. Good. What about in the world? How many people die for about four in the world? Because none of them die anywhere else. Food allergies in general responsible about one hundred deaths ? Yeah . This is all made up white people's shit. Well, there's a fake people just avoid the peanuts, but there are people that if they get peanuts, they'll die. Brett Weinstein thinks it has to do with eating peanuts right after you've been vaccinated and that something, I don't know if he's right, but something about your body reacting is the reason why your body creates this antibody to the dead the dead virus that's in the vaccine. You know, if you give someone whatever it is, any figure out whatever the disease is. You have a dead virus and then you have this irritant . And so the two of them together, your body reacts to this aluminum and it used to be what is the other shit they don't put in it. There was mercury, ethyl mercury and methyl mercury. The two different types of mercury they've tried to do that in vaccines, but there's problems with that too, obviously Mercury is toxic. So it's aluminum. But he thinks that if you have aluminum from this vaccine and you're in contact with other things at the same time, you could develop an allergy for those things, whether it's wheat, gluten, whether it's animals, whatever it is, like it's possible, he believes to develop an allergy when you get vaccinated. And he thinks that's what the rise in vaccines and the rise in food allergies. He thinks those are connected. Let me ask you this. I don't know if he's right. If you went to your grandfather in Newark, he's an immigrant and came over and you told me you had a peanut allergy. many How times were you smack in the fucking face? Well, he wasn't a violent man. He was very but still he's going to joe. What the fuck peanuts? He would make fun of it. I could n't do pine nuts every fucking day. Three pine nuts. I was allergic to maple syrup. Well, the idea of being allergic to bread back then was preposterous. First of all, he would get bread like every two days. They would go down to the local Italian bakery and buy Italian bread. That's the only bread everybody ate in the house. It's so funny. Like I didn't even appreciate it back then. Like when I'd have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich I'd be like, why don't they give me this bullshit thick bread? Because you gotta cut the bread. You know, I'd be like, give me some fucking white bread like a real person. Well, some wonderbread. That's what I wanted want when you're a kid you bread. I love wonderbread. Peanut butter and jelly sandwich on a like I'd get whole wheat, I'd be like, what is this poor shit? I think you'd be in prison. What is this terrible fucking shitty brand filled wheat ? With all the ucking chunks of wheat that's in it. Fuck out of here with your whole wheat bread. I hated it . Now I love it. Now it's the only if I see like regular white bread I'm like let me ask you this, that bread that your grandfather was getting in Ho Boken in Newark. Newark. Yeah. Two blocks away. They were old school Italian people. They made everything in the seventies and sixties without all the shit that's in now. I remember the bags. Yeah, white paper. White bag, paper bag back and the red taste fucking great. Great. With a piece of butter and you dip it in the oh, in the red shot you go fucking crazy. It's so good with butter, you put butter on that bread and you dip it in that pasta sauce, holy shit. So how to stop eating mussels. All right . That's my favorite dish, mussels with spicy with medium. Yeah, because you need a loaf of bread. My body can't fucking do that no, especially with the red sauce. Oh , need a loaf of bread. I'll go through the whole loaf. With the butter, well the bread . That's shocked. I said, I can't eat muscles no more. I love muscles. I go to Roodies, I got some muscles. They're big. They look like a fucking chick, a six. Look like a six foot woman's clit. They're that fucking big to muscles. You think I'm kidding ya. These fucking clip muscles when I go to other restaurants, you get those little muscles and you get a couple big ones. No, no . They give you nine big chick g,orilla raised fucking pussy clits and they're huge and they put a little sauce in on it. So good. Oh my god, it makes me go fucking . There was a Thai place that I used to go to in Thai LA, Thai food, and they had muscles and big fucking spicy muscles. They were huge . So good. Oh, not the Thai place Eddie took me to the one next to the fucking tent planet Labrea. Oh yeah. I went there in with Eddie one night and al Iready hate Thai food. Eddie took Law and I'll buy you lunch. I'm broken. You don't like Thai food? I went in there and there was ants on the wall . I'm like, What the fuck? But I like the one that you took your shoes off. They had the best shrimp patte in the country. You took your shoes off. Yeah, there's one on sunset right across the comic book store. Toy. Toy. Oh, Toy Ty. Toy Time. Yeah, that place . Solid place. Very good place. The best place ever was what's the place next to the Laugh Factory ? Green Blast, Green Bladsdale. Oh , that was a great job. Till I tell you this story. I'm in there with Ralphie May one day and he gets a roast beef sandwich and he's eating the roast beef and I could see the ants on his arm . And he opens it up and there's ants all over the sandwich. Listen to me. Call the waiter. The waiter's still charging for half a sandwich. Yeah . It's hilarious. He's like, I'm paying shit. This motherfucker had ants on it. I didn't even eat the other one. The ants were on his fucking arm, Joe. They weren't in the sandwich. They were on. They were in the sandwich too. Oh, so it was just all over the place. They were all over the place. Green blsades? Green blad, which how slowly that I don't even think it's there. I only ate there a few times, which is weird because it was right next door to the Laugh Factory. It was good too. I kind of stopped going to the Laugh Factory after a certain point. There was a certain point in like the two thousands where I'm like, I think I'm done with this place. And I was mostly at the store. Yeah, I like the Laff Factory. I love the improv steel. I always did the improv still . But the laugh factory to me was like there was something about it that was like sterile. There was something about it. It was not a bad thing, but it was like very much like a lot of people got TV deals out of the laugh. That was a big thing of comedy . You know , it was the store was the dream, you know, the Laugh Factor was nice and everything, but then it was also like you remember Scott Day, he would discourage we try to discourage you from going to the laugh factory like you're a comedy comic. You know, laughing, listen, man, I got to go up everywhere. I can't I'm developing. I can't be just limiting myself to one . After a while you're like, I develop better at the store. Well, the thing about the store too, you got three totally different environments. You got the bellyroom environment, which is like very intimate, very small, seventy people . And then you got the OR, which is the gritty. That's that's the psychopath s at eleven thirty on a fucking Tuesday night. And then you got the main room, which is the big show . There was so much fucking always hated the main room till the last five years I was there. I just couldn't get the formula for it. But the original room, I knew it like everything. The original room, you're locked into a living room. You're locked into it. And that's and then the piano and the whole fuck thing . The main room was big. Big stage, big crowd. It was big ceiling. Everything was big. It was different. It was a different kind of a show. Remember the first time I showcased for Jamie, he was like, man, what are you doing here? You belong in Las Vegas , man, in a showroom. You're not in LA comic . That's hilarious. Jamie always had the craziest ideas for people. But he at the end he was a really good guy. At the end of the day, Jamie, he really tried hard. Well, he loved comedy. Yeah, he loved comedy. All those people were very nice. You know, I went just to Nashville for the comedy festival and I ended up doing the old Osprey, you know, that theater there. What's the name of the theater? Randall Oprie. Yeah . And it was great. But the great thing about that that everybody from the improvis was there last night. I saw people that were there for twenty five years and we just were dropping stories. Aaron the guy Hartman Hartman looks great. He's a big peptide guy, big everything guy. He lives in Nashville . Joel from Florida . You know, when you get to see those guys and you're like, wow, we've been in this shit together forever. Like I told Erin, I met Arin in Irvine , she then came to H ollywood and I was like psyched because she gave us an eleven o'clock show and she was pregnant. She was hot. She used to wear the farmer , those things that overalls, the overalls all she was so hot. I still tell her. When I talk to her, I always tell her Aron, you sexy savage, I always fucking torment her . But it was really nice to see them . And you know, Hartman and me told a story when I told him I was going to bang his head off the wall, you know, just craziness that look at this now . We're all in there. We're having a great time. Twenty years ago, we were always at war with one of you guys. We curse too much. You know, we're talking about when I got fired with Pablo . And then he found out I wasn't doing coke and he felt really bad, you know, so it was it's just great to see what we've been through together. And now after everything, you're like, fuck, I was there to fucking night Joe started . That was in Miami, right? It was in Miami ninety eight. New Year's of ' ninety nine. That's crazy. And Madonna came in with Chris fucking Rock . Wow . And to watch somebody in New Year's Eve, I forget who the fucking was . But yeah, that's you look at those people like, we took the ride. We were kids. We were fucking kids together. And also you have to think like imagine having to employ you Imagine being a businessman and you gotta employ you in ' ninety eight . God bless them. I'm not good . God bless them. I remember the improv really liked me and I fucked him over in like two thousand seven guy the original guy at Coconut Grove . The guy who liked to party. I forget his name now. Rich Jeff , give me a minute. Yeah, give me a minute. The original guy. Yeah, crazy. He was crazy fun. Crazy. Fun guy. Really fun. He's from Cleveland. He lived in Cleveland. Like the party. And his wife hit the lottery for a million of us. People didn't realize how nutty coconut grove was. That was the nuttiest imp rov. That improv. We would go out afterwards and have Cuban coffee and eat Cuban sandwiches at two o'clock in the morning. We used to have a new thing, the new stand . Yeah . It was open till five and a closed for now. To those stories? Yeah. And you could drink till all night . Oh yeah. So they close from five to six. But whatever booze you had on the table, you could keep. So you would say, give me like eight beers . And then they would open up again at six and you're right there. Hey . It closed for one hour. five in the morning . I remember one night you were on Conan O'Brien . This is ninety seven . Right? No. You did somebody's late show. Okay . It was the week that our friend got shot . Oh, the Hartman? Hartman thing . You can't believe I remember , I'm just telling you that I don't know shit. Look up to dates. When Hartman got shot, you were on that show like you were with me all weekend and I stayed and then you went to New York to shoot that. And then that weekend Hartman, you know , but I'll never forget. I was involved in the Threesome when you were on that talk show and it's a chubby chick and a hot chick and we're snorting coke. I'm trying to eat ass and I'm looking at you. I go pull on NBC so I go watch Joe. And I'm watching you as I'm trying to tackle these two animals and I'm like , Who the fuck gonna believe this? The Chubby chick got up. She was like, You didn't want to be with me anyway. You always wanted the hot chicken and slammed the door. It was a full night. It was a full night too Cocaine. But all that shit, you see these people now and you're like, bro, we all went through it together . Yeah, we all went through together . What a great fucking thing to have at this time in your life that we all were all here , you know ? Fucking really nice man. It makes you go, wow, this comedy life was worth every fucking penny. I got into it. It's a fun ride when you look back and you think , like, imagine when you were first starting out, imagine that it would turn out this way . You never imagined it . And then you look back , what a fun ride. What an extraordinarily fun life. I'll never forget and you had a pinned down from the beginning. I never even told you this . One of my friends I got to LA January ninety seven and that summer, like August . Nope . No, that's Cleveland improv. I know one of Miami too. No, it was the manager. No worries. My friend. Thank you. Will we talk ? Something pinned down man,ager . We're fucking house. We were talking about Oh , never imagining that looking back on this life. Like when you first started never imagined out this way. You said something about me once that was right. Like I wasn't on the podcast, but you were talking to somebody. You like, I remember when that guy first came on the scene, he was scary, he had a leather jacket and all this shit and he was buck wild . You know, I just get to LA and I do a couple spots. The guys at my first talent coordinator at the improv said to me, hey, would you like to work Irvine or I go and yeah, he goes, I got to MC spot, go do it next week. My first time I go down there and I had a crazy girlfriend then with all the teeth. Oh yeah. And this motherfuckin' had Shap comes up to me and her and he goes, Hey , she's got the same mouth as Gina Davis, a nice cocksucker mouth. That was my first week in it ever . And at first I took it kind of weird and then after the show I went up to him and I go, Hey man , what a fuck do you think you are saying something like that? He goes, What are you doing? If you go at me, you'll never work on improv again. I just kicked him in the fucking stomach as hard as I could. They called me the next day , come on, man. I kicked him, the guy fell apart. All of a sudden he wasn't a tough guy no more. I was just so p issed. How can you say that to somebody's fucking girlfriend to her face? I just fucking front kicked him and I hit him somewhere in the stomach. He was holding on, I'm calling Arman, call fucking heartman. I don't give a fuck . I remember getting the caro going, Jey, you can't let the old Joey get in the way, man. This is not good. You should have just walked away, but no. Why would I walk away? Fuck that shit that was the problem. A lot of people would walk away from that shit and you just lost. You became a H justollywood ass hole. When you say fuck you, they'll respect you fucking more a year later. And they did. They ended up giving me more work. So was that guy still there when you went back? No, he was like a cute cook that thought he was cute. Like in Orange County, he wasn't gonna get smacked. I don't give a fuck who you are. I fucking kicked that motherfuck. I didn't give a fuck jack. I was so buckwild at the store in the beginning when I hit the kid in the head with a microphone . And then they came and got me in La Jolla and I took the pool cute the pool. Remember they had that pool table in Lajoa, the bumper they had a bumper pool table in La Jolla. Right. So these guys kept threatening me that they were going to come game. So I got I became fucking Chuck Norris and called the silence. I took all the pool balls and I put 'em in different places so I had to throw them at him as a weapon. Then I hit all the fucking pool cues. You ever see called the silence? That's since Segal stole it from him in that fucking Bobby Lupa movie. But that was that was Chuck Norris when he would fill a bag with pool cues and hit you in the head with it and shit in the pool hall with the Columbians. Doug and that motherfucker, I saw them. I was sitting outside the Lajoya storm and they had that little bench facing the Chinese restaurant. He don't even remember Lajo no more, and I saw them at the light and they made the turn and I took one of those balls and I kept it right here and they pulled up and took water pistols out and I fucking took that ball and it threw but everything hit that car and all of a sudden the fucking car went , boom , these motherfuckers took off Jack. Code of silence. I remember this because this was like the first real movie movie that got respected by Chuck. It wasn't just a karate movie. It was a movie that was about like an undercover cop movie, right? Against the Columbia. But the fighting part was just part of it. But this wasn't that it was, you know, it was just a karate movie. Like most of his other movies were just karate movies or you know, they were kind of campy like missing in action. It was a lot a lot of it based on the karate. This was oh we got hit by the pool ball. Oh , they jump him . This is a terrible movie. This is this terrible . I thought many of them it was the shit back then. So when you watch it now you're like, this is the corniest fight seat of all time. These guys would overwhelm him Listen, man, good men wear black . Chuck Morris had a couple movies where he showed his shit. This was not one of them. Walker, sheriff Marsh a was not one of them, okay? With the Whig doing push up still on channel eighty nine , that wasn't him. I love Chuck Norris, but Chuck Norris made some good movies early on that were dark. That's why nobody talks to him. Good women, black. What's the other one? The octagon? Oh yeah. You forget about all that. Oh yeah. Is this good men? Good guys wear black. nineteen seventy eight . Wow . How many fucking people did this guy get into martial arts ? Like how many people because of Chuck Norris movies wind up doing martial arts a fucking shit load? I got into tanks because of him because he was one of the first tanks to those guys and he split . He made his own thing or whatever the fuck . It's kind of amazing when you think about how many karate guys didn't make it . Like how many guys didn't become karate movie stars and Chuck Norris did? Like how many of them were there? How many karate guys wanted to be movie stars and couldn't figure it out? And he did. I saw every martial arts film made in the seventies. Even with the black exploitation, the movie was called three the hard way . Jim Brown, Jim Kelly, and other really good blacks looking up. Jim Kelly . Jim Kelly was trying to break into that thing. There was a lot of that movies. And then after Bruce Lee died, the whole thing opened up. Yeah, Jet Lie, Jet Lee , Bruce Lie, you had all these fucking bruises. And that was the end of it. But I was notorious. I want to see all those fucking movies growing up. Billy Jack . You don't remember Billy Jack? I remember Billy Jack. The Indian? Oh yeah, I remember I remember the black hat. I remember the whole deal. I'm gonna put this foot on that side of your face all that David had a white Mormon dude be a martial art. Everybody Chinese, black, everybody played fucking kung fu. Everybody . And that movie code of silence is Dennis Farines, one of his first movies. He's really Yeah, he's the sidekick in that movie. Fuckin' it's just, you know , people forget how many kung fu movies or martial arts based movies they actually made in the seventies . Fucking unreal. Oh yeah, unreal. And the shit that was getting sent here from China, it's like kid porn. They were just sending there every weekend . Fucking Chinese people beating up on Chinese people jumping. Remember the more they got older, like my seventies, Bruce Died in seventy three, by seventy six, there was movies that the guy had like a thing of gold weigh like ten, two tons, and he would throw it up a hill and then jump and catch it on top of the hill. Come on, now you lost me. The one armed swordsman , you lost me. You know, the guy's got one arm and he's fine. Love those kung fu zz. They were absolutely and forget about black people. Recreate, like, you know, when people talk about Bruce Lee, it was a sensational cultural fucking phenomenon when he and the people that think about all the people he opened up to martial arts movies and martial arts in general. I mean yeah, Chuck Norris was the second half of it. You know, Bruce was the first Chuck, Norris was the second, and I hate to admit it UFC is the third big wave of that , you know, nobody goes to karate no more. Okay, how many karate schools you got? It's for kids tend, they make them hit a paper. You know, they're gone to Jujitsu schools. Yeah. They've gone to all middle schools. So it's changed. The culture has changed. You know, in ' seventy three, everybody went to Wing Chunk Fu. Yep. You taught Judo, you became a wing chung dude now because you weren't going to make no money off Judo. Nobody was doing Judo back then. You had to go to Brooklyn to get Savat classes. Remember Savat , the French. Yeah. You had to go to Brooklyn. In those days, New York had everything . But then when like our friend, the one who does the MMA podcast with you, Matt Sarah . When Matt Sarah got into Ji Jitsu, he would have to go from Long Island all the way to like close to Philadelphia . It'd be three hours on Sundays . Jujitsu wasn't everywhere yet. When he got into it, he would have to travel. I think he told the story one of these podcasts. He would have to drive to Jersey just on Sundays , they just did Ji Jitsu on Sundays because that's all that was available. Now you gotta Jujitsu school on every fucking cool. Who's that because of that's because of the UFC man. It just blew it to fuck right open , so who knows? I may be wrong . No, I think you're right. For sure the UFC opened up Brazilian Jujitsu. Hoorish Gracie. Hoist Gracie winning the first UFC's. That opened up Brazilian Jujitsu all over the country. Same, what the fuck is this? It was a completely new I mean, there was no Brazilian to America. You never even talked about it. I did martial arts my whole life. I've never even heard of it. You heard of it, but I don't even know it was so far off to you. I barely even paid attention to it. It was like it could have been anything. And then all of a sudden the UFC came along and it was like, Oh my God, that's the thing that everybody needs to learn. That's what's wild now. It's like, how many people trained martial arts in comparison to like fifty years ago . It's not there's no comparison. There's way more people that know how to fight now than like ever before than ever before . Or at least they know how to neutralize somebody . Well, a lot of people are training now. People to neutralize people. Anybody who studies Ji Jitsu ain't gonna bullet bully you. Okay, they're going to neutralize you on the street . What are you gonna do break your fucking shoulder down on the street? They're trying to neutralize you. Hold you down , hey, take a breath. Relax . Don't swing at me 'cause I'll break this fucking arm. Did you see the video of Matt Sarah? I think it was in Atlantic City and might have been in Vegas, somewhere in a casino. Some drunk guy has caused a proble ms and Matt winds up taking him down and mounting them until the cops come. He's just holding on to the guy. Just sitting on the guy, hold on. There it is . The guy swinging, look at Matt. Like you've got a literal Brazilianu Jjiutu world champion and he's just mounting you laughing. Like think about picking on the wrong guy . He's just holding up. I mean, the guy's comple tely helpless . I don't remember the whole story behind this. Look at the security guard coming I was like, relax, I got this guy. You and I both know Mac and Neum, kick him in the face and get up and leave. He could literally this is what I'm telling you. Jujutu, that atmosphere doesn't teach you to do that. It's just hold you down, Go, heinate. Well's nothing to prove, you know, no, catch your breath. He's laughing. He's the world champion. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if he had been the UFC champion by that time, but you know, what do you do? Can war somebody on the street and break their shoulder now you have to listen. You're gonna get suit . I know Jujitsu people take it down like their bounces . They just neutralize it. Okay, so that's way past the time that he won the title. Yeah, that's hilarious. That's very funny. That poor guy, imagine like knowing that guy could have killed you and he was just so nice. All he did was hold your wrists and sit on your chest for the moment like he was on the boat having a good time. He was like, Hey, somebody get me a water or something. The guy's literally helpless. He has no fear whatsoever of that guy hurting him. You know, it's like it's like a child. It's like your little child's having a temper tantrum, like, come on. It's Matt Sarah. It's funny. There's so many dummies out there . This is part of the problem in this world. It's hard to get your shit together. So many people just stumble through life, just never getting their shit together. I found my friend last night. She has like a cooking show on YouTube . She goes I had to stop doing it Joey . She goes my mother would watch and these people would say like the weirdest like you know, everything show me your tits, show me your pussy, you can't cook bitch . And you're like , you know, how much long am I gonna take this shift? People are so horrible. They're fucking horrible on the internet. You know, he's a young girl looking good. She's like, Joey, I had a canceless fucking thing. She was doing like a workout or cooking thing. She goes, Now I just play with my cats. That's it. People love cats. She goes, that's it, but it's impossible to shit so many animals out there. And they're out there and they don't give a fuck and they say shit. It's also the zero consequences for saying horrible shit. Yeah . And they're trying to get a rise out of the other people in the comments too. So they're trying to say outrageous shit so that other people react to it, so that you'll read it and you'll react to it. It's the dumbest fucking thing ever There is I was thinking this last night . It's kind of a crazy thought, but you know, every one is addicted right now to social media and addicted to going online and just addicted to content. You're constantly getting content, you're constantly interacting with your phone . And this is a very new thing. Right. It's within the last twenty years, this is happen ed to people. This is like prepping us for what's coming next . We're going to look back on these days and we're going to realize , oh, the addictions to the phones, the addictions of staring at the screens and checking your email and looking at YouTube and looking at Instagram and looking at Twitter . That's just preparing you for you being completely connected to electronics forever . This is like the early stages of it. I was thinking about it last night while I was watching this television show. I'm watching this crazy show. It's called From. Have you seen this show? No, no , it's nuts. By the guys who made Lost , one of the dudes that's in Lost is the main star of it. It's a fucking great show. Like a really good show, like very unpredictable, twisted, just like Lost, like crazy show about these people stuck in this town. They can't get out. It's impossible to get out . But I was thinking while I was watching this, I was like, Why is everyone? Because no one has a phone there and everyone's just locked into this place and I was like, Your phone is preparing you The addiction to our phones are preparing us to the next stage of what life is going to be like as a person . This is just the gate . The phones are the gate , but what's coming next? You're going to reminisce about the days of the phone. Oh, you remember when we had phones, we had to look things up. You had a little thing. You got to charge it. Remember when you had to charge it, that's how we're going to be. We're moving into some weird new area. They're building these fucking data centers everywhere and everyone's like, Oh the data center look great. Like what is that? What are you doing? Why are you building these things that need to be powered by nuclear reactors? Why do Why are you building these things that are sucking up all the fucking water? Why are they putting these things out in the middle of the desert , biggest fucking five football fields, huge fucking giant buildings filled with computers. Like what the fuck are we doing ? And the gates is this goddamn phone. This phone is the gate We're opening up the door. Let's kill kids. Why? My daughter can't watch a whole movie . They have no attention span. They're forty minutes in she has to leave and then she'll start it from the next day. I had to watch Scarface though . You had her watch Scarface? Because we watch we do experimentals at the house . We did the fight club. We do all that shit. So she said, Dad, I always only watched the part when he shoots the brother in law. You know, that's the only part of it's always on when I come down. I go, I want to watch from the beginning. She enjoyed it for a little while. I went upstairs after one scene I'm there, I can't watch this again. She goes, I'll stay up . Two days later, my mother goes, Did you see the review she wrote on it? And I go, No, she goes, take a look at it. And she's like, I enjoyed the movie. I was a fan because it was Cuban American, but then as the movie rolled on, I figured these Cubans don't know how to treat women . He goes They were smackin' them and shooting . Wait for me . She didn't fucking like that law. She was like, I know my dad's Cuban, but Jesus Christ is so mean to their women. I'm like that's no, but that's that Yeah, and she said, she goes, that gave men a different fucking thing. I go, Mercy, that was forty fucking years ago. Not only that, you're dealing with the people that were the crimin als of Cuba that were kicked out of Cuba that made their way to America. Like this is not normal people. No, no . And now they're about to let the second half out. Everything what are they doing to Cuba right now. They're not surviving . They don't have any power , no gasoline . It's funny because every couple days I get an algorithm which is just promoting Cuban videos . Cuban videos, people in Cuba like that had kids going to work out . They took them to like this little place . Everything had papers on it. They did pull ups , situps with the head, the pipes were broken. You got to see these fucking kids doing full workouts , we wouldn't even look at their body weight workouts, you know ? They talk they go around Varadero and they interview people and I don't know what this is doing . I don't know what this is doing because we're two years away from Cuba being legit . They're going to go back down there after this whole thing goes around or whatever, whatever they decide they can't get fuel from Venezuela. How long is going to take? I mean, they're not going to be happy till they have a Starbucks in Cuba. So what happened was they were getting their oil from Venezuela, right? Right. We took over Venezuela, we cut off their oil. Cut them off. And so what is the United States trying to do with Cuba right now? They're trying to get rid of the communist government? They're trying to well, they're gonna they charge Raul Castro with something recently. That's the beginning. This is going to end up in Norway. Brother. You're gonna wake up one day and on ABC News there they are in Cuba pulling people out. Doesn't China and Russia have a relationship with Cuba? Is that a problem? Not really, because they're not paying their bills. That's why Cuba starving. When they had Russia, Russia was fucking doing everything, but then they didn't need them no more and they cut them off. I think they do small trades for sugar . It is kind of crazy for the United States to have an enemy that's ninety minutes offshore in a boat . Trump administration said on twenty twenty six, may twentieth indicted former Cuban president Roll Castro for murder based on the downing of two planes near the Cuban coastline in nineteen ninety six killed it four people. As a story of Latin American and U. S. foreign policy, I believe the indictment may be the prelude to a direct U. S. military aristocracy Cuba. This is the beginning . This is Kelly Young from UMass Amherst Before Castro, the last U. S. indictment of a Latin American leader occurred in january twenty twenty sixth, that's the Venezuela thing. Since January, US has ended the flow of Venezuelan oil to Cuba and has economic and military pressure to prevent other nations from trading with the island . Trump recently threatened a friendly takeover of Cuba. I believe what's missing from most recent analysis of this situation is the history of U. S. aggression against Cuba is essential context for understanding the Trump administration's recent escalations. Yeah, once they indict you, they're calling for you. It's just a matter of time. Mike , they're just starving the country. Yeah, they' ll come up with a solution. Here's your solution. They're not telling you there's a shooting of two in Cuba every night. Cuba's not getting there's no power, there's no electricity . They have roaring what we call and that was yesterday. Earthquake. Yeah. fifty. Yeah. So they're just fucking they're doing everything they can. James was the biggest one in over one hundred and fifty years. Oh my god. Yeah, so everything is looking, like right now, that's it. They can survive this. Fuck , so what happens to those people? They just wait this out where the United States and we have no resources, no supplies. You got two things in Cuba. You have people that don't know . You never watched that thirty for thirty with El Duke when they won the championship and they said people in New York were throwing toilet paper and the wife was grabbing it saying in Cuba, this is gold . Why are you throwing away toilet paper? We have no toilet paper in Cuba. That's the mentality. So fifty percent of those people have been brainwashed to where they, you know, every day there's a bullhorn, Guenos Diaz Patiotas, you know, when the communists, whatever they call each other comrades, we're winning the war. We're getting closer. What do you mean I'm getting closer? I'm down at one hundred and eighteen. I was walking around at one hundred and seventy. How are we getting closer to a victory ? So they're getting sick of that shit. They say the bugs that land on you at night are fucking atrocious. These bugs, you know, they have real fucking bugs on that island . Not to mention they all have syphilis . Cubans have syphilis, I think my fungi toenail is syphilis because it smells like it, you know what I'm saying? But on a fucking not jokey thing , the Cuban's got two weeks left . Two weeks from today . And so you think they're going to invade. Yeah, they're going to invade, take Maduro , take Raul out, and then what have you got? They're going to install some new I remember a couple months ago there was a shooting in Cub a of a boat . You remember that, right? Right, Jamie. Some people out there fishing and the Cuban Navy shot 'em. What? Like three months ago. Oh yeah. This is why did they shoot? I don't know. They were investigating it. Cuba hands out weapons to citizens and tell them prepare for an invasion. Holy fuck . Holy fuck. That's june seventh. That's yes Sunday. Sunday Which we saw Broadband distributing weapons to citizens in fear of a U. S. invasion . They reportedly started handing out weapons to civilians as the government urges populations to prepare for a potential US invasion. Reports from South American publication version final stated against the backdrop of the deployment of American military power near the island, the government of Havana began distributing weapons to citizens, officially urging them to prepare for an imminent foreign invasion. What if the citizens use that weapon to take over the country? Which they should do. That's what they fucking should do. Just call the crazy risk . Start handing out guns to people. Like I said, man. All of a sudden your population' arsmed and you're telling them what to do . And they don't have any money and you don't have any money either . Look a man , when I shouted to an OK , I contacted my sister I offer her a free ticket out of Cuba. Money , whatever I got half is yours. You're my blood, you know? Right . I don't know if I can do that. Okay. Why don't we do this? Why don't I fly you to Jersey? You go to your mother's grave , you go see where her house was, her way of life, and then I'll take you back . She told me I could never do that because I'm married to one of Fadel's guys. I don't even want to go to the United States. Oh , Jesus . So she was so bra inworked and that, she was still my sister, but I couldn't help her. Well , you're used to what you're used to. Yeah, and that's what you had a big chance of coming to America and what it was. Not knowing where you're gonna eat and how you gonna live and where you're gonna get money? Are you going to work? Are you gonna agree? They got programs for all those people. They got churches. Cuban people have churches. They're Catholics. Is there also a thing where if you leave Cuba, I think there's it's a cleaner path to get to become a United States citizen. Right. You're fleeing? Yes, it's easier. I think so. Yeah, something like that. If you're fleeing for violent dictatorship for community dictatorship , fuck, dude . It's just like what are they gonna do about that? And then you gotta, we're talking about Vegas. What's going to happen in Vegas if Cuba reopens? What do you mean? They're going to put gambling back there. You know the Americans gonna put gambling back there. They're in negotiations already with habits . Already they're talking Turn into a resort , a location . They're not going to rip down the architecture that ori arginchitalectures would makes Cuba and the cars and shit, but also something else. And I know America knows this. Those oceans are booby trap . Up to a mile out of Cuba, there's a ton of shit that they have, booby trap, mines, all that shit. Yeah. They planted those during the Bay of Pigs invasion. Look at this Cuba, nineteen fifty seven. nineteen fifty seven, back when the mob ran it. Look at everybody dressed impeccably . They would go there. No nothing. They loved it back then. They loved going to Cuba. People would go there, live it up and sex was free and cheap . And you could fuck a chicken those days, you get'd fucked in the ass by a guy. I would break the amazing dog. It was unreal. That's why the whole point of Kennedy and all that was for them to get Cuba back. The Italians. They were making too much money out of Cuba. And now they're going to start to put drugs on there and shit towards when they took it down. Cuba's been fucking riddled with bullshit for years . Every bad luck that they have they created in the fifties and forties because it was a sex heaven. Americans would go down there on a Friday and not come back and, you know, it was whatever costs here, eight thousand cost you eighty dollars to get your dicks up for three days and fed and people rubbing your feet and shit. Castro revolution had a major effect on Las Vegas. Look at that. Closure of Favanic Casinos spurred exodus to the desert . Frank Meir's father. Especially people in the Who? Frank Meer's father. What do you mean Frank Meer' hiss father? father was a casino, so that's how he ended up in Vegas. Oh my God . His name is Miranda. No, so Frank May's father was a casino dealer in Cuba. When Cuba closed down, he went right to Vegas. So a lot of those people went right to Vegas . Wow. Really interesting shit. That is interesting. It makes sense 'cause those are the two places. And if you're on the east coast, the trip to Cuba is easy. It's like going to Florida. thirty minutes. It was what you and your wife would do on a weekend. How far is the flight from New York City to New York City to Florida is what an hour? Three. Three hours? Yeah, because Trump is down there now, so they go a different way now. No. Okay, go straight to Fort Lauderdale or Miami. You got to go outside that range of piece of mood. What did it used to be? Two. Two. Two hours . So New York City to Cuba is only an extra half hour there. That's it. So like less than three hours three hours, you'll be on the island. So it's basically the same as Vegas, then. Yeah. It's the middle. It's the middle. But you have the you're on an island, it's a resort. Nobody knows what's going on. It's beautiful. You know, I told you that. My mother would tell me how all those Hollywood stars would hide in Cuba, especially Rock Hudson. They would go that's where they would suck that on the weekend. Rock Hudson and that's all those Hollywood people would go to Cuba, lock themselves in . There was no TMZ, there was no press. Right. You know, these people in Cuba don't have a new, you know, how are they going to get the paid? Everything's run by the mobs . Yeah's, like it just all sin and vice. Whenever you got a minute, you run, you read that Avan and Loctorne. That book . What is it called? It's Avanocturne. It's a revolution from three different places. Union City, New Jersey , New York City and Miami and how no, not New York City, Tampa, and how those three cities were like involved in that whole . What do you think's going to happen in Cuba ? If you had a guess if I had a guess, come on, I'm already seeing dollar songs . If you're a casino right now with how bad casinos are doing here , you're looking at that right there. Nocturne how the How the mob , how the mob owned Cuba Cuba and then lost it to the revolution? Yeah . Excellent part. Excellent. And so that was Kennedy trying to get rid of the mob. That's why they went a mob put, listen , Kennedy's father went to Chicago and he talked to those people. They had the pool. If you live in Chicago or where else, you win the primary. I don't know how it works, John. I'm not a political guy. Well, they definitely helped Kennedy right into help theyed Kennedy get into office. But then when he got into office, they didn't help brother get Fidel back. Then the brother double timed them and then they started shooting and I don't know who shot Kennedy's. I'm just saying this. Well, the mob definitely didn't like them. They were very upset. They cut into that pocket. And he helped the mob helped him get into office in the first place. Right. And then once he got in, they started prosecuting people and hey . Then he fucked them with the bear pigs when he pulled off air support at the last he didn't know that they were going to do this. And then when they told him about it, he denied air support and air support was critical to the success of the mission. Absolutely. And Operation Mongoose . Robert Kennedy spearheaded his secret government project to topple the Cuban Communist regime, working parallel to the CIA's mob assisted efforts . But this is after the revolution, right? This was when Fidel was running Cuba. Right , right. They were trying everything they do to kill fucking Fidel. They were doing everything to this . This is after so what spurred the Cuban take over the military's taking over of Cuba? Mob bosses like Sam Giancana and Santo Traficante were recruited to help eliminate Castro using methods like poison pills , mafia wanted Castro gone so they could reopen their multimillion dollar Cuban operations. Wow. That's all it was. It was money. Wow. Big money, untraceable. I can imagine untraceable, nothing, no nothing. And you're over there living the life. Nobody knows nothing. Myelanski eating fucking Cuban food every day. They probably had it all set up. It was nice and then the rest. Kosher Cuban food every day, fucking Milanski. So what did the people think? The people think that these mob motherfuckers they've taken over our country, let's let's let Castro come in and we'll be socialists and everything will be great . Or did they just get taken over? They got taken over what happened was Castro went in there. Batista was horrible . Batista was fucking no better than Castro . So when Castro took over, he was to take over Batista and make Cuba Pap puba Papa and the conglomeration , he became a communist somewhere along the line. And then when he took over Cuba, that's when he shut the casinos down . He destroyed the fucking casinos, you know ? And then the Ital ians got mad, they all came back and then they were just they thought it was going to be temporary . This is going to be temporary. We'll clean over this. So for years Italians were just watching the news, waiting for somebody to kill fucking Castro . It was the Italians . And then when they thought that the United States was gonna go in there and invade, like, oh, good, we're all set . I wish there was more film from those days so people could see like my mother explained things to me. I wish she was still alive because like she said that Italian food was different in Cuba. She goes first off, the pizzas had lobster on them and shrimp already back then in the fifties . They were making she didn't like the pizza in the United States. She goes not the same. They put fresh shrimp from the fucking ocean, lobster, fucking all these other things. They got these pies now in New York. I'm scared to try them. I can't. They put calamari on the pizza . How fat can you get? How fucking fat do you want to be? You go to these pizza plays in Jersey Dog, it's like Zedi, a pound of zipper on a slice of pizza. There's pizza places in Jersey that are just going off. And the sandwich places in Jersey? Oh, your boy. Your boy's going off. Not Oh, Giovanni, but that's white plains. That's why planes. That's phenomenal. Nothing like Italian delis on the east coast. There's nothing like that. That smell like that cheese when you walk in and the fucking olives and shit. Oh, it's insane. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. There's too much pizza, like just too much. You know, it's funny. When I move down, I'm like, I'm scared to gain weight, the pizza. I eat one slice a week. Maybe maybe . Since I had the knee surgery, I've been doing the podcast at the house, so I've been ordering piz za from this one place and my buddies go crazy. That's the best pizza we've ever had. It's thin, sweet red sauce. Extra cheese, do you burn it? It's fucking thin. Oh my god and the sweet red sauce. God They know how to make pizza on the east coast and they try out here. They do a pretty good job out here. It's missing something as the sandwiches. There's some good Italian sandwiches out here. They're pretty good, but they can't fuck with like Giovanni's place . Po Giovanni sent me two shipments that were he's the best. I had to give him half of it away. I'm like sends you so much. Fucking salamis fuck salamis somewhere. The cheese is incredible, right? And the cookies fucking cookies fuck you up in those five bro. Yeah, you know, and that's everywhere. Like I just stop fucking around like well when I go to these cookies terrible. I take you to this place. Which place? You took me to El Nito, that was phenomenal. El Nito now is Kovo Steakhouse . Whatever. But the steakhouse now? Yeah. Is it great? They fucked me up a couple weeks ago. I went in there five to nine. I've been there three weeks in a row with big party and then my wife wants and then a friend wants. I go in there five to nine. When we get a fourteen ounce we're the fucking beer and they're like we're closed . Ain't nobody in here . You can't make another stake. Now we're closed. It's not even nine . No reason to go back . That's a bummer. That's people want to go home. Yeah, I don't give a fuck. It's a steak. You guys , there's nobody in here . The bar is cute in there . Nobody's ever in there. They got a male bar turn. They got a blonde with big tits. You see this face pack the fuck up. You got a little Spanish guy that's a great guy but yeah but I go to this place now they had on a special three weeks ago you ready Stuff Shells with lobster meat. Editor Cotton Shine . And he gives you five of them in the tray . Oh . What's this place called? Austeria . Where's it at? Marlborough. This is my spot. Yeah. I go there because the dude will do whatever I ask him to do. Like he'll he has a menu, but then he'll go Joey, have you tasted my Italian fried rice? You're like, what are you talking about? Italian fried rice? And he makes risotto with lobster and shrimp, a fried rice . So he's going to add it. He's got a new restaurant opening. So he lets me sample everything . He makes a cheese steak to die for with bread with the seeds on it. Oh yeah. Don't grow Simolina bread. Oh my god, Austeria, there it is. Oh, that looks good . Yeah, there's nothing like East Coast Italian food. Nothing even compares. No, Steve and Angelo in there. Bro. Get all fuck around. All right, let's wrap this bitch up. Bro. Thank you for having me. My pleasure. I love you. Thursday. I'm Rambo. All right, all right. But in Atlantic City seventh and eight, that oceans Casino, White People Casino. July, seventh and eighth. No, August. August, seventh and eighth. Okay. Chicago got announced. November fifth. What's the website for people to go to find out details? fucking on a website Joey Dias dot com or Netflix is that real? I don't know anymore . All right, well they'll find you. They'll find you. So one more time, where's the casino? Ocean's casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, the seventh to eight tremendous . Beautiful. All right. I think the governor is coming . The governor? Yeah, Mikey Sheryl. I don't even like her, but I do like Mikey Sherry. I do like Mikey Cheryl 'cause she's a Democrat. You're not supposed to like it, but it was funny. I went to a restaurant and some guys like Amy Man. Life would have been so much better with Jack Chiterella. I go, I know, but he lost by four hundred thousand fucking boats. He tried to a Republican in Jersey has never gonna fucking work. They've been Democrats since Jesus showed up. So four hundred thousand votes, bro. That's a lot. I'd be in my house with the windows fucking like sunny black and Donnie Braska with the windows, the shade drawn for a year. Four hundred thousand fucking is that podcast I did with Joe Bstone? Yes, very good. He was very good on him. He's amazing. He's a good dude too. He's a good fucking savage. What a crazy life. The real Donnie Brasco. I mean, he really fucking lived like that. And he infiltrast theructure Bonanos. Yeah , deep. They never recovered from him. After he fucking came out and they found out he was a cop, they're like, oh