The Decline of Hollywood Production

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I think especially liposomal glutathione, which is I think more B bioabsorbable. Yeah.. That's awesome, dude. Good for you I think every and don't listen to your doctor. If you have a doctor like I had, my doctor said, all you need is a balanced diet. Most of those vitamins are just gonna pee out. And I looked at him them I'm, dude, you look like shit. I didn't say it, but thought trying to be nice. We just had a pop belly. I'm like, this is crazy. You have zero muscle. and you're telling me about balanced diets. like, this is bananas too and Now that I've looked back on it He was probably how old I am now You know, and he looked like shit There's a lot of doctors that don't understand that if you want to optimize your health, it's not about what the hundred percent of the F USDA, whatever it is, the requirements, like there's real science on what the right doses are. And you can find it. It's just complicated. You gott to go online and you gott to go, what's the optimum dose of vitamin D? Are there dangers of going above vitamin D? Are there benefits of having a high level of vitamin D if you really want to do it right, you should work with a wellness clinic and have someone go over your blood.fortunately, we have wasteed well in town. so I do it with them. Yeah. They go over your bloodw. They'll actually make you a vitamin designed specifically for what your body needs. They'll encapsulate it all in pill for them, tell you how many to take a day and they'll send you like a bag of vitamins. It's amazing. Yeah, I've been actually thinking about doing that test because There ares certain doctors that willll tell you sort your blood type will dictate what you should be eating. I've never really got that done No, and I know certain people just are like this is a game changer. Wonder how much of that is voodoo It might you know. It kind of makes sense though, if your ancestors came from a specific part of the world You know what I mean We know that's the case with alcohol. Like peopleople whose ancestors came from a society. Yeah. Well societies that didn't normally drink alcohol, particularly Native Americans had a really hard time with it because they just weren't built to metabolize alcohol. They didn't have it as a part of their world. And I guess if you're in a part of the world where your ancestors ate mostly meat I bet your diet should probably be mostly meat. I bet it fits right in there And you come from a place where they ate a lot of specific kinds of grains, like I would wonder like How much of that stuff is real? type versus what food you should eat. because everybody every needs proteins, amino acids, vitamins And all that stuff you get from fruits and vegetables and meat and food and trish eggs I mean, if if you're looking at the blue zone. Right? Yeah they essentially have a variety of a Mediterranean diet. It's kind of a varietyary everything. They don't just eat red meat, but they eat a lot of fish, but they do eat red meat and they do drink wine. And they sort of have this diet that is kind of a bunch of everything and You know, there's a bunch of other factors as well. you know, purpose, phhysical activity, Physical activity, community. I think a big one with all these blue zone people is they're just eating real food Yeah That's the real problem. what people need to truly get into their head is the majority of the American diet as delicious as it tastes is like Garbage bad for you. It's actually bad for you. It's not good for you. Real food is good for you. If you go and you have a grilled chicken and some avocado and a nice salad and a glass of sparkling water, that's actually really good for you versus if you go and have a fucking Jack in the box double cheeseburger with bacon and whatever sauce and eat the fries. likeike that's poisoned. Poison. It's delicious poison. Now I will say, I just got back from Europe My body there feels so much better. And I eat pretty healthy. Okaykay? healthy here and I eat pretty healthy there. Yeah, everybody has the same story. So what's going on? It's our food. Our food's bad. There's a guy who broke it down. Remember that dude the cowboy hat, Jamie? This episode is brought to you by Cate, the leading brand in creatine. You'll love their gummies, but now they've also launched creatreatine plus electrolytes mix, perfect for hot summer months. 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Romine, There's a bunch of the compounds,'s a bunch of preservatives. all that stuff is again. bad for you. And all these people that live in like Italy and live in these Mediterranean diet places, what are they eating? They're eating food, actual food Real food. But it's not just it's not just that. it's like the way the dairy is processed, right? You know, and I actually went to a cheese factory in Italy a couple of times ago in Europe And I asked, I said, whyy can my stomach tolerate this and not in America? And they're like, well, first off, the process of making this cheese is like four to six hours in the morning every day and it gets the lactose out Whereas we just slap it in and send it out, you know, and it's that's not It's also raw cheese You know, I had a this I bought a house from this guy who was from France, Re cool guy. He was a doctor. Very interesting, dude I got to know him and got become friends with him and he he would smuggle cheese back from France because it was literally illegal to have that cheese. This is California two thousand three illegal too bring that cheese into America because it was raw. It hadn't been all the biology in it hadn't been killed So like when we're drinking raw milk, what you're getting is all the enzymes. you're getting it and people could say, Oh you are you a baby cow? you should be like it's really good nutrition Raw milk is good nutrition. There's calcium and protein and fats, milk fat. It's good for you. It tastes good when you drink. If you're drinking a glass of homogenized pasteurized milk Your body's like, what is this? Yeah? Like this is milk that can just sit on the shelf for months. That's crazy. If you get raw milk, I get it on a Saturday Wednesday, Thursday That's a little sketch. Oh yeah, It starts stinking. That's the that's the cat. So this dude, listen to what this guy says So he's talking to this guy This guy's talking about how he's eating bread over in Europe can't eat it. That's because in America, what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe. See here in America, it's not so much the gluten as what we've done to the grain. About two hundred years ago, we started stripping the braanin germ or the fiber and nutrients to make flour shelves stable, also nutritionally dead Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can't even metabolize. therefore, many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation. But then the bread wasn't white enough. so they bleached it with chlorine gas, and the bread didn't rise enough, so they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate, which banned in several countries like Europe, UK, and even China Then we wanted to ramp up production. So we started using glyphosate to dry out the wheat before harvest, causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut So now you're bloated, brain fogg, tired and blame gluten, but gluten is just the scapegoat The real issue is ultra processed chemically altered, bleach, bromated, fake vitamin filled wheat, soakedank glyphosate. This isn't bread This is. shout out to this guy. his name is Denny Dor. Id Danny D E N NY underscore D UR E on Instagram. I's gota fuck with the audio there Oh yeah, yeah the fuck Yeah. So what I get for that? I have seen this actually, damn it It's just essentially pure greed keep bread shelf stable for longer. Well, it's their business model, right? So their business is set up on shelf stable stuff that in the problem is it was It was green lit Right? So the problem is whatever year they started doing that, they built their entire business on doing it that way So this was the argument when RFK junior came in and said, you have to stop using these dyes for children' cereals. Yeah. And they were saying They were saying, this is going to ruin our business. And he was like, you already make the same kind that we're asking you to make for Canada because Canada doesn't allow them to use the des. The same cereal They make it in the United States and it looks. not as good Because it doesn't have the juicy, delicious, bright, vibrant eyes that give you fucking cancer Yeah. But the reality is it's just their business model. They're set up to do it a certain way and to change would be very expensive. So what do they do? They fucking hire lobbyists They hire lobbyists, they get their guys into the FDA, they get their guys into this organization, that organization, and they make sure that they're protected. and then we keep eating dog shit and we keep getting poisoned And you go to Italy and you have a spaghetti and you feel great. you don't feel like you get shot with a tranquilizer dart. You know, it's kind of amazing And there's dart in your neck.. We've talked about it so many times. you go over there and you like, whyy am I living the way I live? Yeah. These people are just hanging out, having a good time having a cigarette, laughing That shouldn't even be a thing we're arguing about. I don't understand it's just like that gets lumped into that. No, that's for the betterment of society. Yeah. What Why is that a thing world man, a world that doesn't completely make sense. And then on top of it, it gets connected to political ideology. So it used to be that the people on the left were really concerned about healthy food Like when I was a kid, we used to go to the health food store. My parents were hippies and they would buy like whole wheat bread and you know, like they would try to buy like organic food, and that was the thing on the left. Avoid chemicals, avoid processed foods Because this it's all these movements are connected with Trump and RFK Jr., there's so many people that are rejecting something that's beneficial to everybody because somehow or another they have this connected to some right wing anti science position. Like God, you guys are getting brainwashed We should all be eating organic food. That should be the only food We're not doing that, okay? And it's one of the reasons why we're some of the sickest, fattest fucking people on Eth while also being the most wealthy country think is like a crazy thing. It's a It's It' it's kind of it's really sad because people aren't really actually thinking critically about each subject They're just jumping on to something they've been told or is in their echo chamber or whatever. You know what I mean? I like to think No matter what issue it is, I'm like, Okaykay, well, let's evaluate that. Let's kind of look at both sides. Maybe there's like, and maybe there's some in between. Both things can be true Yes, for sure. And that's a problem. If you If there's something that's accurate that the other side is saying and you're rejecting that because it doesn't align with your political ideology, that's bad for everybody Like I think the group think that we have to all really align with is the group think of being open minded. like actually open minded and willing to accept different ideas and also Recognize that you are not your ideas Your ideas are just thoughts. Do not connect yourself with them. You are you And if you really want to have a stable you, you want to be proud of what you are You should be completely detached to ideas You should know which ones are accurate and which ones aren't based on information, based on the reality ofate whatever we're talking about, whatever subject matter is. But The reality is like you can't be married to your ideas because they'll fuck you They'll fuck you over for every time. It's like it's not going to work. You have to be flexible and you have to be willing to say, even though I hate this guy, he's right about that. It's very important. likeike it's okay to be wrong. Yeah, even though to go piece of sh was wrong When he said he lies about a lot of things. But that thing that he's saying is actually true Well, here's an even to go even a little more Maybe an unpopular or something people don't talk about is They divide in my opinion to control. If you don't have division That's when the pitch forks come out. If you don't have the illusion of choice. Team That's when You're like, well, fuck that. They're taking our money. we're paying all these taxes. We're doing this things. And we actually don't have a choice. R Maybe that's the reason it's, you know, there's these teams red and blue And it's actually just one higher group that are actually making decisions, the big money. Yeah, for sure, they benefit from people being at each other's throats. They benefit from culture war stuff. They benefit from people arguing over whatever it is Pride mononth or whatever it is. Back liivves matter. rile people up and then people are thinking about this and this instead of Hey, like this is actually going on I'm talking about. I mean, look, every time there's I mean, when Clinton got caught with Monica Lewinsky, they started bombing, like right afterwards. That's the real power. That's what they do. It's a good move. It's a good move to' a trb Yeah because otherwise that shit's going to stay in the new cycle until something big happens. So you got to make something big happen. Yeah, it's a we're involved in a game and we don't think it's a game. We think that what we're doing is trying to make the world a better place and vote for people that have similar values That's not the game they're playing The game they're playing is let's pretend that we care Let's pretend that we want to fix the homeless problem. Let's pretend we want you to have health care. Let's pretend But meanwhile, they're percentage of them are demons They're just sociopaths, completely devoid of any feelings of what the consequences of their action are going to have on people's livelihoods, losing their homes, losing their businesses. they don't give a fuck. They care about their own career and theyt want to keep on truck until they become the king of the country And that's what they're try to do. 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Visit BlueCew dot com for more details and important safety information. BlueCew is number one for a reason No was we were actually talking about it, my buddy. gave me a lift here today on his plane and he's a very wealthy, successful guy But he was getting riled up about some trans thing and an issue. and and I was like Why do you think you get riled up about it? I was like, do you think that maybe that's just a cause for division and that like what, you know, like If you get upset about A sound out of someone's mouth When you think about it, it's kind of like from a thirty thousand foot level it's like You're getting riled up. about An idea about a sound that's coming out of someone's mouth. But you're letting that affect you Right. And it's not affecting your real life But you're choosing to focus on that And it is an issue But is it an issue that's of parount importance in your life when you're on your own private jet flying so much. I know. I I couldn't think about like I was thinking about I was like, you're this especially billionaire and you're upset about that. And I go, you're wasting your time thinking about that instead of A millionaire things we could talk about or think about Yeah. It was interesting. It's mean it's always been a tool. As much as we like to say, no, these are real issues that we face and we really have a real cultural issue that we have to I get it. That's true But however, you have to recognize that that tool has always been used by dictators byiving conquer arr of war. Right. I mean it's the the beginning Yeah. Yeah. And it's important. And it's one of the beautiful things about our country is that we have two parties. So it's so easy to do because it's just good guys and bad guys. There's no good guys, bad guys in betweenre reasonable guys that are pragmatic. We know how to kill folks. I like them. let's go to the let's go to the left sidey. Let's go to the disciplined side. But no, it's like you can only be on the right or on the left. And if you're on the right, You get lumped into these crazy people that you know have these big Jesus rallies and they talk in tongues and you get lumped in with white nationalists, you geted in lumped in with Christian nationalists that think that the Ten Commandments should be in every school and no one should be able to practice any other religion. as ar Christian country. There's people that really believe pushing that That you get lumped in with them too when you're just like, hey, I think the Second Amendment is important. You know like, o, you must be a far right wing conspiracy theorist. Like, o, come on can't always count on the cops, you know, you should be able to protect yourself because bad people have guns. It's that simple. Do doesn't mean you're going to use them all the time. Like this is crazy. You could kill people with a variety of different methods You know, you don't We don't need to lump everything into right and left, but people do They do because they're being told to. You know, if you're on the left, you have to accept You know, trans women or women, you have to there's a whole bunch of like they're kind of moving away from that now. in a big way, they're moving away from the competitive thing, like with trans women competing in school athletics because it's like after a certain amount of fucking championships, You know, you just gota go, Hey, come on guys. That's a guy. That's a guy women. Be sweet. thoseose people have always exist, but also you're letting them into the women's room. and now you could have perverts who just say they're trans and then go in the women's room too.ike you didn't think about this. The fact that they never factored in The one segment of society that has always been the most hated and the most like looked out, like make sure that they don't come near you psychopathic perverts Like psychopathic perverts that prey on men, guys that want to go in women's bathrooms, guys that want to like grab women after bars, those guys have always been terrifying Yeah. And we just gave them a Willy wonka golden ticket. Just wear a dress. Like imagine you're a fucking old school pervert and you're eighty years old. you're like, fuck, I missed the boat Yeah Yeah, you've been in and out of jail for doing all kinds of Creepy shit Pretending you're a woman, I think we should just be able to hunt. Like for real. I would lose zero sleep. Real perverts. Yeah. Like the thing is like child molesters hunt No no problem. justust let's go hunt them. Well, they're broken. and I don't know how you could ever think you're gonna to fix them. And then there's this weird trend where in Some academic circles, they're trying to label them as minor attracted persons whichich is just this thing of just empathy falling into chaos. Like you have so much empathy that you're willing to ignore you know, all kinds of great like what's going on in the UK. with the rape gangs. They're willing to ignore it because they don't want to be seen deemed as being racist. They don't want to be deemed as being Islamophobic. like okay. That that breakdown of u culture And because of some very extreme groups prettyt scary. It's scary. It's super scary. It's scary because it can happen anywhere in the world. It can happen in America too. And if you think it can't, you're nuts. And the beautiful thing about America is you're supposed to be able to practice any religion you want. You're supposed to be able to be a Buddhist. You're supposed to be able to be a Baptist. No one should care And we should all be able to get along. It should be a true melting pot There's other organizations that have different plans and their plans are to take over cities. The plans are to take over cities and change the laws And we were talking about Tim Dylan, what happened with Dearborn, Michigan. All these like liberal people like, yeah, we love Muslims. Everyone's amazing. So they got a Muslim mayor and the first thing he did is like no more pride flags. Itit's illegal. What he would like is Sharia law. likeike if you ask the majority of practicing Muslims Like worldwide, how many of them would like Sharia Law? And it it's it's not a small amount You know, that's their religion. That's what But the problem with that is like you can't push that on other people. If you want to have your mosque and you want to pray five times a day, wonderful, you should be able to do that. one hundred percent.body should appreciate the fact that there's all sorts of different ways of ing God I don't know whos right as soon as a culture starts taking over and putting in values that First of all women. Yeah grossly deteriorate women's rights, Grossly that's bad That's when it falls apart And that's their culture. And you have to understand that that's they've accepted. When they're wearing those traditional head garbs and body coverings, that's their culture. And they want women to dress like that And you know, we have to stop that from spreading. Like you should be able to do it if you want to. But the idea that you can take over a town or take over a city, that's a flaw in our system because Every city should have the same sort of national rights. Every city should have the rights that we have where you can wear whatever you want to wear actice whatever religion you want to practice and you shouldn't be persecuted one way or the other But when you get a country like England, it just lets them in m migration and then you're ignoring the chaos that comes with it. That's not good And that makes you wonder like are they wanting the society deteriorate to the point where they can say, hey, we're going to make new laws to protect you. because you need to protect So you have mass surveillance everywhere, more police on the streets, more people getting arrested And in England, you know, they're also getting arrested for social media posts. I've been hearing about that.'s moreore than China, more than Russia, moreore than Russia and China combined It seems it seems as if, you know The grab for power is just you know, done in plain sight now. Yeah. And I hate to say this, but they don't have the Second Amendment part of the problem. The problem is you're not armed So like when shit goes sideways You dont have a lot of options, you know What are you gonna do? All get together with shovels. What can do Grandpa's got a bird gun. Let's go get grandpa's bird gun Fucks are we doing Grandpa's bird again. That's no way to take keep the police out of your town Yeah, it's it's not good. I think hopefully there's enough sensible people where we're going to come out on the other end of this It's going to be real hard with this right right versus left bullshit. No. No, well, but you know You know, not to like toot your own horn here, but voices like yours are really important because you examine a lot of different people. and you've pulled in like almost I was thinking about the other day likeike an encyclopedia of different type of people and different types of subject matter where you can type it in a chat che pitino and say, can you tell me about this thing that And then', oh, would you want to hear hour podcast that Joe did about it with the expert of Suts and Chut And that's pretty cool because in it expands people's mind. It's much easier than having to you know, go and read about something. you're like, oh, that's an interesting point. Well, if it gets people stimulated, that's great. The reality is we should be teaching people to think correctly from the time they're young. And I think we're spending way too much time giving them information and not teaching them how to think correctly and not Also like u You know, Giving them something that excites them and giving them something that they can understand why it's important to be interested in something. likeike why it can benefit you, how it can stimulate you? try new things out. likeike, oh, this is exciting. I feel better. feel good. Like people like tasks, they like that. And we should be taught that from the time we're young. inststead, we're basically groomed to becoming workers You know what's interesting is so I turned forty in March and I decided I was going to take the year off esssentially thirty nine to forty, right I've been working head down for twenty years, hadn't looked up. We' been living out of suitcase, movie to movie to movie to movie, you know, blah blah blah blah blah And I thought it would make me it would give me better perspective. It would maybe whatever You know Where' whereere I going in the next ten years kind of my thinking Uh And I actually got more depressed I was like, I what the fuck going on. I feel more depressed. And it kind of just goes back to Just stay busy Get up and do shit. Well, the thing is you're busy, but you're busy doing what you love. And that is a gift. That's a real gift Yeah we're both very fortunate in that regard. And anybody who's listening to this that actually does what they love. whatever it is, beekeeping, carpentry. youre doing what you love You're so lucky Go out create Don't take. Yeah. Be a creator. in anything like if you're a plumber or whatever, you know, fix someone's pipes Yeah. and create don't take. there's takers and there's creators, you know. It's like I was actually listened to podcast. guy said that and I was like, That's it If you create exponentially happier, I think, because you're giving society It's a benefit to the people that are interacting with you with whatever you're doing And that's good for you. for sure And I think Unfortunately Look, I don't want the responsibility being the guy who gives everybody curious things to think about. you're you're not the only person. No you are, you are. I really think that This kind of thinking, the kind of thinking that lets you explore things and gets you interested in things should be in schools. Instead of just forcing fucking history down their throats and math down their throats, give people the tools to be excited about things. showh them cool shit So so some cool shit where they realize like learning about things is actually really interesting You know, it just has to be something you're interested in. And then they'll realize like, oh, I can get good at stuff. I can pursue something instead of just being hog in the wheel like most people feel. Most people feel like, fuck, the economy sucks. I just got to get a job and then Th then you just get home and you just want to play video games or do something to stimulate yourself because you hate jobs. And then next thing, you know, you're thirty five and you don't know what the fuck you're doing and you're stuck You know, and that's a lot of people, a lot of people listening to this right now And it's because they were never instructed how to think about things. They were never instructed try to find something that you're actually Here's the thing. G the job. Ccourage that curiosity Yeah Whatever it is, man, being a fucking car mechanic, whatever whatever thing you're interested in, there's got to be a thing. You just got to find that. You can get good at anything. Yeah and that will produce money It's like the also part of the problem is Culturally, I think we place too much value in like becoming rich and oh, you gott to do this.. And it's like, no, no, no, hold on. Don't miss the point G good at something and that you love and then That will produce. if you get good enough in anything, you'll make money out of it For sure. But the problem is like with kids Everything today, they want it fast, really fast. They want Ozempic Right? They don't want to go on a diet. They want You know, whatever it is. fill in the blank with whatever thing that they want to get really fast with scams, crypto, anything where they're going to get rich quick. whatever they got to do to get rich quick Because it's like this this TikTok mind culture. where people just want that easy quick fix in a pill instead of doing the work When you think about a job or going down a career path, like acting, for instance, like what you did First of all You did it, you would think, o Great. Cliny Swidz's dad. He'll help him. fuc I made a worse one. People were like, no. You had to prove that you were a really good actor for like a long time before people go, Oh yeah, Scott's actually really good. It's always gonna to be your clinest Sw' kid. You know, and then he didn't fuckking help you. But like your grind was I know you. Y grind was years and years and years and years and years and years of just fucking hustling and putting in the work. Most people see that and they go, wait, how long is it going to take For twenty years, twenty years, what? Like when we talk to comics, that's a big, big thing that comes up in comedy clubs. L most comedians say a comic isn't even really comic till ten years ten thousand an hour rule, right? I don't know if that's real. This episode is brought to you by the farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist and trust me, I know I buy one, the farmer's dog. I use it for both my dogs. They love it. They eat it up quick. It smells good to them. It smells good to me. It's human grade food. The farmer's doog makes fresh food for dogs And my dogs love it. 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Jiu Jitsu. one hundred percent, you get better the more you do it. but one thousand percent, if you drill correctly and you have like mastery of the fundamentals of the techniques, like you really truly understand like leverage points where you're supposed to be, when it's secured, when it's not, when there's an escape, when there's no escape If you don't understand that, you're just rolling around and just like resisting hard with people and you'll get somewhere But you won't get nearly as far as you need to get with focused, really systematic breaking down of techniques So it's like the ten thousand hour thing is 's there's something to it. The more you do it, the better you'll get But really it's the intention that you put into each and everything you do. That is as if not more important than the time Like it's a about it's about it's about enthusiasm It's about enthusiasm and your willingness to like look at it as objectively as possible You know, especially if you're like with Jiujitsu is a thing, it's like your ego' involved because you don't want to get tpped out and you don't want to get humiliated. And so you don't want to try things so you keep a tight game and you never grow And it's your ego actually holds you back by that. and telling people that it's going to take that long. If you knew how long it would take to get to Black belelt, you're like, oh God, it's too much work. Well, also, I think the thing you realize, you know, as your ego gets stripped from you doing J Jitsz so is that you realize like doesn't matter what level I'm at, there's always going to be Th thousand more guys above that level that will still choke me out. you're going you realize how much how You're like, I kind of am a pussy You know like, I'm not, you know, I'm not as tough as I You know, you know now You really know. Well I really know because I work for the UFCA. Yeah like we're always around like every weekend dozens of guys would kill me. Yeah. And then there's people that can kill them, which is crazy. It's like there's There's levels to levels, you know, when a guy like Illot Tuaporia knocks out Max Holloway like whoa. And then Justin Gagey beats up Iliot Tuaporia like whoa,'s like there's so many guys out there. You have to be humble It's good for you. It's good for you to not be delusional. point was for young people They have to get interested in the path It can't be just the results. And the path is really where you grow and you become something special in life You have to be on that path for a long last time and try to keep getting better at it with every Every day every effort you put into it, do it whatever the fuck you're doing, do it to try to get better at that thing. And eventually success will come You're gonna have to manage that success, You're gonna to chase it, you're gonna to have to figure things out. but the most important thing should always be the path It's true Yeah. I think that's in everything in anything you do. If you're making music, if you're writing books, it can't be, I'm going to sell a million copies. It's got to be. I need to fucking make this the greatest Literature that's ever been read. But I think I also think we need to push Because of this whole like quick money and thing The morals and codes people have are not taught enough to young people, you know, do the right thing. When you say you're going to do something, be there. When Make a promise. Do it, complete it Don't just You know, people just are so so happy and this culture of of you know, whatever, fuck down, we can just do whatever we want. It's like fucking terrible behavior. to to young people. you know Yeah youve got to have a code and a value system. That's what my dad, I mean, he was so You know, you make a promise. That's all you have in this life is your word So it's like You got to do something. You gotta like dad should have been president. Why didn't he run for president? He would have because he did because he did politics. He would haveen one I know he was a mayor of Carmel. Yeah. And then he said Never againg 's all It's people It would' have been a fun president, though You would have been you know. I don't know if I would have liked it though Th thenen would have been like everyone No everyveryone would have come after me for no reason. Bro, you would have been Don junior. J s. We'd be in the box. Rped up into some crypto scheme. Everybody would hate you. Making billions. Yeah, Jeez, Louise Yeah. Yeah, politics are dirty. I wouldn't have done it either if I was him. But you know, like when Ronald Reagan ran, a lot of people like finally. Finally, a guy who like G good at acting I mean, that's kind of what the president is. It's a role. Part of it is a role. Like you're playing a leader and the way you behave, it's like you have it's very formal. The way you communicate it's very formal Yeah. you know, and actors are going to be better at that You know, like Josh Broowlin, that guy could be the president. one hundred percent That de could kill it as the president. looks like a president voice. Did't he play a president in the George Bush movie? Yes. That's right. He played Bush. Yeah. He could be president. You know I know they tried to get the rock to run. Yeah. I think he was thinking about it. Yeah, notot much. He told me fuck this Yeah. Or maybe he was just hyping it up. He was kind of he was toying me. He was like, Yeah, I'm gonna to do it. L do it. He's very smart with social media. Yeah. he He's a wizard at that stuff, but I think he's too smart to run for president Yeah get that crazy. like get that giant ass pro wrestler Did that guy, he should be our president At least we know that our president could fuck up all the other presidents. That would be nice. No that's what I'd like to see though. I'd like to see some sort of version Okay, great, you got to be smart enough, but you also have to maybe do some sort of or some sort of physical competition because you can't just be You know, you got to be athletic, you got to be Yeah, you know, that would be cool I al should really show anyways. We should really make them do about seven grams of mushrooms Anybody wants to be present I'd be good. You do seven grams of mushrooms. We film it. we do it in a dark room with infrared cameras or you know, night vision cameras f out. Yeah, yeah, We want to know how well you handle God But also expand your mind a little bit. Don't be so rigid in your ways, right? Yeah. well, also I think a lot of those people would benefit from a psychedelic experience because it would just make them realize that there's a lot more to the world than you could see right in front of your face. And you don't think that until you have it and then you have it and they'll never think any differently again You're always going to be like, okay, There's a part of this that's not real. It' a part Oh no, I did trust me, I did the I did five MEO And it was, I mean, I was some life changing stuff. Well, you feel like you're dead when you take that stuff, right? That's the first thing you think, like, oh my God, I killed myself. Yeah. Like I'm not around anym. Yeah. I think what was the most powerful thing was When you come back, it felt like seeing the world for the very first time again. First time you saw grass. The first time you saw the sun the first time you felt the wind. Yeah. I mean, I cried. I bawded for forty five minutes in my buddy's girlfriend's arms after I did it.. And I was like, I'm just so uncomfortable after about five seconds of the casee c. crying on the couch. That's enough. Why are you huggg my girlfriend, bro? you hand Sebastard, get off of her it was powerful. Well, your ego is comm stuff and you probably wouldn't even thinking of who you're hugging. You just want to hug a human Yeah. And it's the feeling of it is so like you're a part of everything in the universe. And there is no There's no destination It doesn't exist. You're a part of everything all at once. It's a very strange feeling And no one ever has ever done it and go I didn't think it was that big of a deal Like everybody who does is like, wow Like I've known I know a few prominent right wing people. that have done it They would completely change their life A couple of them don't even talk about it, so I don't want to mention any names. but then they want to talk to me about it Yeah. So I'm a different person now. Like whooever I used to, I'm not that guy anymore. that's that's because once you know, once you know that you really are a part of the whole universe and it's like all the molecules, everything everywhere is connected. There is no space. There's no space between anything. Everything is filled with something. Yeah. It's all a soup It's a giant soup of energy and vibration and It kind of made kind of actually made me sad people who will never try it. are so dealing with so much pain or dealing with such a rigid thinking or whatever it is it could help them. And I was like, Oh man, that That is sad The rigid thinking is a big one. It's interesting that it's becoming much more accepted to talk about You know, I see Grown adults who are very successful, who run businesses, and they talk about psychedelics And when I was young When people talked about magic mushrooms or anything like that, it was always like you were a fool You were a crazy person who wanted to like trip and see things that weren't there. It was never like you were trying to expand your consciousness and you were trying to J enrich your experience in life and have a better perspective and ego death and all those things that people are trying to do and be more connected to God. Now it's commonly discussed. It comes up all the time public's perception on this has really radically shifted in my lifetime. And I think It's because of the internet I think it's really it really started to change where I he I heard people talking about it in the early two thousands. And it was even before social media because there was a bunch of articles that were written and a bunch of people were talking about positive psychedelic experiences and people were talking about how it helped them quit heroin and people were talking about all these different things that were connected to mushrooms in particular, but then All the Terrence McKenna stuff that he was talking about DMT and LSD and a bunch of different psychedelics that have helped him. And so all this stuff started getting out there and then YouTube And with YouTube and with podcasts, then people really started hearing about it from people like Michael Pollin And you're like, who, Michael Pollin is a very respected journalist. Like what is he talking about? He's wring wrote a book about psychedelics called Change Your Mind, Like what? And so it's now where rational, intelligent, educated people are free to talk about it, and they often do. And so that's just alone gives me help because I feel like that's a that's a big change people view something? What was it and I don't exactly know the history, but I've heard Was there alcohol lobbyists that were trying to kind of suppress, you know, weed use this, I mean, the alcohol lobby has. did they also go to psychedelics as well? whereere they haven't yet. No. Well, I'm sure they are leaning in the direction of it not being legalized. The problem with alcohol and marijuana is that places that do have legal marijuana, you see a diminished alcohol intake. Sure. The diminished alcohol intake' measurable. It's like they cost the money. Y. It's real You also have the darker thing, which is prison lobbies Explain. Yeah. They lobby prison guards unions, they lobby. There's a bunch of people that loby to make marijuana laws, keep them on the books so they could keep locking people up. Sure because that's a massive business, right? Yeah, their business is keeping people in cages, which is really fucking crazy. Yeah, that's It's really crazy that someone is who's in the business of locking people up can actually lobby to make sure more people get locked I mean get locked up for something that no violent crime. Yeah, and especially marijuana. like most Americans don't think that you that it should be illegal. It's a large number. It's like more than seventy percent, I think. L what was the what' what amount of Americans think that marijuana should be legal Let's see if there's a pole P put that into perplexity See what the universe says. I would say it's about sixty seven percent of Americans think marijuana should be legalized legalized. Yeah What do you think abouts all drugs being legeled Mm. It's a tough argument because for sure you're going to lose some people. If you make all drugs legal, look, If they made drugs legal right now, I'm not going to go buy heroin I'm not buying fentanyl, right? I' not I'm not into meth. I'm not interested If I could go to the pharmacy and pick up math, I'm not going to pick it up, but some people will. seventy percent seventy percent of Americans say marijuana should be legal in general, acccording to Rent Gallu Pll. If you include people who support either medical or recreational legalization, it's eighty eight percent to eighty nine percent US adults say marijuana should be legal in at least some form with only about eleven percent wanting it to be completely illegal. And those people need to try it So look, I'm actually Pot never agreed well with me and I think I have I always I get a little scared and paranoid sometimes where I was like, maybe I have ensity to like some sort of schizophrenia or something. I was like ooh, this isn't I was like, I don't like this. This made me kind of go skkychko schematic and So did it just make you scared or did it like distort reality for you in a way that was No, I don't I don't know if it distro reality. It just got my brain You know, it got my brain so doubt about things that were out of my control Now I can see why because like you know, the mushrooms They make you face some things that you're going on in your life. Yeah And I think that's healthy. I don't know Pot has never agreed with me. I think what I like about it is when it wears off I like I like that fear I like like Joey Dia says, go meet the devil I think there's some some benefit to freaking out because then it calms down and you have more perspective. But I think what's going on is You really can't think about all the threats of the world and all the problems in the world and all the things that can go wrong in your life. You can't think about those on a regular basis. You got to kind of put your blinders on and keep on trucking. Sure. And then marijuana is like, what's that in the corner of the room that you're scared of And you're like,. But I will say, as you know, important before the frontal cortex is like fully developed because there is some danger for young men specifically. Yes, rightight? Yes. And schizophrenia and like, you know, some stuff that can come if you're not, I think that's with anything, right? I don't know much alcohol schizophrenia, but it's really bad for brain development, especially young people that smoke regularly, it's not good for you. It's just not good for you And um I know that's hard for people to hear because they want to get high. just trust me. If you're getting high all the time when you're fourteen years old, it's going to fuck your head up. Yeah. It's not good for you It's just not good for your brain development. it's one of the most important things about you as a human being is your ability to think well It's very important, one hundred percent. And your' oating system. Don't screw it up before it has a time to like. And Just for he hees and haahas because you're bored in math class, you want to get high all the time You know, I mean, people have done it and got away with it and they're okay, but a lot of people have not And you don't want to sabotage your whole life just because everybody you know is getting high. It's just not worth And that also goes with alcohol young people that are like fourteen, fifteen years old that are getting drunk four or five times a week. like don't do it, man. I'm telling you, it is fucking bad for the development of your brain. Whatever your lookook, maybe you have a very high potential. Maybe your brain maybe you're always going to be smart and you're going to be fine. But I guarantee you where if you're getting drunk all the time andre getting high all the time, wherever you would be is not where you are. You might be still a very high intellect, still very smart. You would have been smarter. Your brain would have functioned better. You wouldd have probably had a better perspective It's not good for you And, you know, we Gamorize it for kids. like the kids at parties, drinking, having a good time it' it Yeah you can't, you also can't tell them don't drink because if you tell them don't drink, they just want to drink more. He's got a kind of thinks them. Well, you Europe tends to have like a better It seems as a whole, I'm sure they have their problems too, but seem better. Yeah, you know, their ease into it, right? Have a little like less is more without like with anything actually, less is more. You know, It's not forbidden.. So you can have a glass of wine with your family when you're eleven, twelve years old. You know, it's not that big a deal. That Protestant culture we have is very rigid. It like Don't do this or you're gonna die. It creates drug addicts and hes. People just want to not listen to their parents This just want to do something that's fucking like whatever you're doing I'm doing the opposite because you are fucking annoying and you've been the bane of my existence Soon as I get out of this house, I'm smoking crack you dad. I don't know what're talking about. So to get back to your question, the problem with legalization is you're going to have a bunch of people that do drugs that wouldn't do drugs normally because it's leg what about theyre going to about when you're ofge like I don't' call it twenty five. Yeah, but even then, you're going to have a bunch of people that don't like their life and just decide to go to the corner store and pick up some heroin However What you're not going to do is empower the drug cartels and organize crime. And that's what we're doing now So in one way or another People are going to get drugs. So how are they going to get drugs during prohibition? Well, they're going to get drugs from criminals. That's what they've always done. That's what they did during the alcohol prohibition That's what people do. And when you've got a multi billion dollar industry, maybe trillion dollar industry right next door to us, which is Mexico and they're just bringing it through, bringing it through. like what are we doing? Are we empowering them or Would you rather have it legal and have a substantial portion of those profits block out everything that comes in illegally, have a substantial amount of those profits put to rehabilitation and treatment So Yeah' also think from like a quality perspective to L you're like, hey, that's cool. We get it. peoplee are going to do this, but we're going to monitor and make sure it is what it says it is. Yeah Look, alcohol's legal. There's a lot of people that don't drink They don't like it. They don't like the way it makes them feel. They don't like the way it makes them act. They say stupid things, they feel like shit in the morning. They don't drink. That will be the same with cocaine. That will be the same with heroin. However, there's some people that are alcoholics and alcohol is legal and it's everywhere and these people will hit bars and get fucked up every night and their life is going to be a mess and they're going to die of liver poisoning. Yeah. That's normal too It's very unfortunate, but you can't nerf the world. And got you got to like trust a little bit that Yeah, it would be really hard to sell to America that cocaine, heroin and meth are now all legal It'll be really hard to sell to them But I think Altim l that me what. probablyably MDN for us. Yeah, all the other things Those are less troublesome. You know, notot a lot of people are dying from MDMA, but people definitely abuse it and they definite get addicted to it and they're doing it all the time. Apparently that whole thing about making holes in your brain is bullshit Oh really? Yeah. that was a campaign. Oh, I think it was probably just some internet ors shit.' let's find out what it does. MDMA does MDMA cause holes in your brain P that in there. See see what perplex the has to say? Well, they they presedt the case couplees therapy, right? I mean, that was the impetus of the whole thing. This episode is brought to you by Zip Recruiter. 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That's the big focus of their studies is PTSD with MDMA. There's something about MDMA's, the empathy that it gives you, the compassion gives you lets you drop a lot of things that are in your head. No MDMA does not literally punch holes in the brain that would show up as empty gaps on a scan. But high or repeated doses can damage serotonin neurons and alter brain signaling especially with heavy use So the holes where the wholees idea come from Anti drug companies popularized dramatic brain scan images that were described as showing holes, but these were actually areas of reduced activity or reduced binding of certain markers, not physical gaps in brain tissue Still, that sounds bad. Reduced activity and reduced binding of certain markers, That sounds terrible I chalk up all this. It's like moderation to everything. Yeah less of everything. It's like I disagree with some people that I really trust, you know, you know, what's his name? Dr. Paul Saladino, was it top? The Carnivore doctor? Yeah. I really like most of what he says when he's like drank in. it's like it's like, well Maybe but also it's maybe pretty nice to have a glass of wine. It's nice to laugh with friends Yeah. And it's nice like that's important too in life And I think balance We can you tip to scale one way if you're totally extreme and then you're just like this social life and you're, you know, you can't you know, go out and like You know, really enjoy yourself for a second. Yeah. That's important. Moderation. Meration. And you're absolutely right about social life being What Loneliness kills people quicker than anything else. one hundred percent. Yeah. People that are lonely, they die younger than people who smoke cigarettes Well, it's bad for you. Yeah. It being lonely is actually bad for you. Feeling bad is bad for you. I mean, it seems like it should be, right? It's bad. feeles bad Proably bad for you. feeleeling good is good for you. So a little tipsy with your friends or you're laughing. I love you. I love you too bro. It's great. It's great. It's great for people. Yeah, you're gonna feel like shit. Take your electrolytes. your takeake your electrolytes Drink a lot of water, in the fucking sauna. Yeah donon't do it every day. Don't do it every getet an IV. Dave Chabele taght me that trick When I was touring with Dave, all he would do is like after shows, they would just get IVs He would get vitamin IVs in the morning. They they did it all the time to Big bags of gluted thion to deal with the alcohol. Yeah. you'd go into like that li D would have a room. you'd go into the room and there'd be like eight of us there all hooked up to IV bags. Tking Chet It was fun That sounds good, But it's smart. Like that's how you counteract the fact that look He takes a lot there's a lot of benefit, particularly for his job, right? Like Dave's job. being silly and pointing out ridiculous aspects of our society. What better way to do that than to be talking shit with your friends with a couple drinks in you? Imagine all the things you would have missed. wouldn't have and been in your comedy that wouldn't have been in your life.' you've just, I gott to go home now. It's eight o'clock. I gott to go home. You're like, No, that's boring. Exactly You become a boring person too. But there's also balance. sometometimes you have to realize like, I've done a stance before. I got to get up at six. Yeah. See you guys. Y. There's good to that too. It's like you have you have to have discipline, but you also have to have the ability to cut loose And it's hard. It's hard to balance those things out. You know, like you're saying about vitamins like I'm get off the boat I'm on the boat, you know? Yeah like that. It's like there's some things that should be non negotiable. And for me, there's two There's nutrition and exercise. Those are non negotiables.. All the other things I'll fuck around with in terms ofal bonus, rightight? Yeah Bus rounds. You have to get cardio, you have to hit weights, you got to stretch, you gott a good sleep Yeah, I have to do the workout stuff just for my brain. abbove the body stuff, it's great to keep the body healthy and I'm very aware of that. and I think about that as well. But for me, it's my brain When I have a nice, good hard workout day, I'm so easygo. I'm so free. Do you have ADHD? Oh yeah, for sure. Okay. same. I think everybody does. Anybody is any good at anything has it? Every ADHD guy thinks everyone has. I think I think it's a superpower. No, I do too. I always tell people and you're probably dyslexic. No not. Yeah. Okay, because that goes hand in hand It's quite often, ye And are you dyslexic? I'm dyslexic. And so explain to me what you see when you like see text. I jump. I jump, so, you know, you need to go left to right. My brain starts and then jumps and then it goes. Is it regardless of the subject matter? Like if you if you're reading about something really interesting, does it do the same thing Yeah, now it just takes intense focus for me to read. And once I get in a good rhythm I can get going. I can train my brain. to read better. but When I'm not focused or there's other things going on, I jump and then my brain has a really tough time so I get tired very easily. And then it's like, oh, and I get You know, I get a little frustrated, tired, and then I fall asleep Hmm I do fall asleep if I try to read at night But I don't have a hard time reading So I don't have the dyslexic thing But I've had friends that have it and I don't understand. I'm like So you see it, right? And you're going through it, But what is going on in your brain where it's making you jump back and forth? I don't know. I think it's just losing focus. I I don't know. And regardless of the like it could be the most important thing you've ever read. You know, like what if you just like won the lottery? You got a piece of paper in the mail? I'm reading that. just won five billion dollars. And you're like, wait aute. do Iwe five billion? What is that say You can't read this, read this for me. Yeah. No, I don't yeah, it' just don't know it's about The text messages are cool Yeah, I mean it's all It's just it's harder. And now, you know, like when I grew up, They didn't give any sort of special treatment to that. Now it's Almost mandatory in schools.. If you're dyslexic, they give you more time for test taking, they give you more time for reading, they have you know teachers that will help with the dyslexia. There's tools you can use now Yeah So I got kind of boned. Check something here. this is something weird. could be related I've been seeing this a lot online and I'm very curious about this People are saying there's a link between ADHD S symptoms, I guess we'll call it and histamine levels in your body And brought this up on the screen. It's not on shown for everybody, but There's something that pops up about it. There is some studies to it. And what I've been seeing is this link people are taking Zertteech and Pepsid A C together which creates some sort of histamine receptor blocking Hm erest And this is where I'm like, don It blocks histamine receptors located in the blood vessels airway and skin and reducing allergic responses, sinus congestion. So they're saying that it's a reaction to histamines. That like that's the mixure of Zertec because Zererttech's more like allergies. everyveryone's into that. Pepsidase C is like acid and you wonder if there's different things that they're talking about when they're saying ADHD. I could see people being easily distracted When I say ADHD, the people that I know that have' it, usually there's one or two things in their life that they can really fuc and focus on You know, whether it's playing golf or whatever it is a thing that you do where you could just focus on that. Yeah. But other stuff you're just scatterbrained and you can't and they'll say, Oh, you have ADHD. Yeah. you know, or You know, you're thinking a million things at once, you can't focus. That's what they always call ADHD. But everyone that I know that has that It's always whether or not they're interested in the thing.ure. As soon as they find the thing they're interested in, they can lock in for fucking twelve hours and forget to eat. Well, you know how some some people when pressure I'm sorry to cut you off when like You squeeze people, they either excel or they fold. R When when you squeeze, typically I excel So I don't know where that comes from, but when you put the pressure on, I mean, that's why maybe, you know, I can do the job I do. it's like two hundred people looking at you. Ready? Emotional scene. You got it yourself to tears or it' an emotion. and it's like You squeeze Yeah, but it's also you had to be good at it because you didn't have a backup plan You know, that's also part of it. It's like, you know, your dad wasn't going to help you out. You really were out there like if you want to make it in anything, you have to be able to perform No matter what it is, if you're a lawyer, when you're in court, you have to perform. have You have to be able to like keep your shit together and execute. That's your job relies on that And if you're a focused person, you recognize that and you work hard to make sure that you focus and that you can execute when it's important. It's like People that avoid things that make them uncomfortable, they never develop that skill. And that's very unfortunate. Because it's one of the most important skills you could ever have with anything. It's being able to focus and being able to perform under pressure It's very important And we're missing that in life. You know, we don't have these life or death moments like that our ancestors had all the time or some fucking villagers are sneaking up over the hill and you spot them and you run back to the fucking camp, and you grab the bows and arrows and go to war. like we don't have that. So we don't have like like a constant checking of whether or not your pressure system is functional. Yeah. I mean to this movie that I got coming out tomorrow It's a Wor WarI movie U Lucky strike, I'll say the name, plug it that generation of men that right because they I mean World War two, I talked to my dad about it What it was like he was only twelve years old when World WarIo was going on. But he says he remembers listening to the radio and everyone in the family listening like you could hear pins and needles Because it was we didn't know what was going to happen. I mean, people were scared for their life Even back home in America They didn't know it was going to happen And that, I think is why that generation of men and women are just from a different breed. Yeah, you know, and you know, you've said it before on your podcast. It's like hard men, you know, cre easier times, easier times, cre. it's like the cycle that we're in it's It's, um yeah, I don't know. it's, uh I know, I think we need a little bit of that We need a little hard, harder men. one hundred percent We need to stop using this term toxic masculinity. No, there's criminal behavior. L ye toxic masculinity is a guy who beats people up and robs people and rapes. Y. That's toxic. That's criminal behavior. masculine behavior is it's protective. Masculine behavior is a guy who gets things done, provides for his family, takes care of people, you can call him at two o'clock in the morning because you need a favor. you're stuck on the side of the road, like ye All that shit is important.. Strong people are good. It's good to have strong people And this idea that somehow another strength is bad for society is like really crazy. It's like, no, the strength needs to be channeled correctly And that's why I think we have to encourage more people to exercise. And I would say for men, you should at least try martial arts. one hundred percent. It's so good for your brain. It's so good for your confidence. It's so good forility. Your moility. And your' also your understanding of like your vulnerability So many people are fucking delusional. I've seen so many drunk people that don't know how to fight start fights and you're like, do you want to die? Are you trying to die Be you you got to run into some fucking guy who knows how to fight and he's going to hit you in the face and you're going to bounce your head off the fucking concrete. You're going to die. Yeah. So stop op doing this. But that delusional comes from not being around vastets all the time. Yeah not sharpened. Yeah. Yeah Having experience knowing what it actually is And it's dangerous and should you should do some dangerous things in your life. It's probably good for you It's good to experience a little bit of fear. It's good to be nervous. You got to grow and we are We're in a society where people just want relaxation. They want comfort They want entertainment and they just want to be sedentary. And that is fucking terrible for our mental health Coincidentally, we're in a mental health crisis. where're a giant percentage of people who act that way, who are sedentary and overweight, not taking care of themselves are mentally ill You said something that was interesting, the being scared, being really scared and pushing through that thing, whatever it is. Yeah. For me, when I, you know, it's been martial arts, but it's also been surfing. Oh and you know, being scared for your life on big days and going through that and getting to the other side. You've never been calmer You've never been more Zen with nature and clear in your mind about and happy because you've accomplished something. you've pushed your boundaries. You kept pushing them and pushing them and pushing them. How old were when you started surfing I was young. eightight ten? Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, where it was like And, you know, at first it's, you know, these ways scare you. And then it's, you know, the, you know, bigger than the room scare you and you go through these kind of could be you feel like life and death experience if you you know, if you push if you're pushing yourself. Have you ever had a shark situation? I've seen sharks, but never in a way that's That's been like, oh my go So if I saw a shark, that would be, oh my Godd. I'm on a styrofoam fucking Yeah. You Well there there's a difference between between you know, seeing a shark further away or seeing a shark on a boat U or seeing a shark you know isn't gonna to hurt you. What are you talking about? You have a conversation with the shark? Bro. We're cool, right? Nobody look, youent you spnd as much time in the wild You spend as much time in the water as, you know the surfer have done it their whole life. you kind of understand what what sharks are gonna hurt What's going on here, Jamie? Grey White talking powder borders last week. Oh, great. Oh, good Lord. Do they even know it's happening? It's not here that way. Oh my Godd, how did they not see that fin? Yeah not looking behind them. Oh my Godd, they didn't even see it. That' You sure this is an AI. Oh, it's ABC newews around don I don't actually don't think there's any more sharks. I think there's just more cameras We gather here tonight to bring women back to their rightful place. The Testament', a new Hulu original series from the executive producers of the Handmaid's Tale. It's easier to accept a story than believe that the people around you are monsters. The battle isn't over. There comes a time when you have to take action when you have to choose your own destiny say Watch the new Hulu original series The Testaments, Streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney pllus for Bitle subscribers, Terms apply You know, there's just more people with drones and cameras seeing us Well, there has been heightened shark activity in some places where people are, for sure I think particularly in Northern California I think in Northralia too. Yeah. Well, Australia has a. They seem to be angry over there too. The sharks are angry Everything's anason or something. fucking their crocodiles are angry. they fuck people up I was a re read about this guy. who is the first guy to die in an alligator attack in Texas since eighteen thirty something. And the story is Now I don't know if this is true, Jamie, pull this up, see if it's true The guy's name. ly restest in peace, Tommy, Tommy Woodward. He was drinking with some friends in a marina in Orange, Texas when he decided to swim in Adams Bayu. People warned him about a massive alligator that had been seen in the water hisis friend pointed out near the dock. And his response was, fuck that gator That was the last thing he said. And then they killed the gator killed him. He was the first guy killed from an alligator in Texas since teen thirty six. Yeah, you don't swim in the bi you. If there' a That is one of the most Texas fucking things that anybody's ever said. Fuck fuck that gator right before he die. is probably drunk not respecting nature. Drunk as fuck. It jumped in a fuck that gator is a wild thing to say for the gator eats you And that's, you know humility. You gotott to have a little humility, Tommy. Tommy, don't say fuck that gatater H it is. Man mocks alligator jumps in water and is killed. Oh, this is recent. No, twenty fifteen. twenty fifteen. So what is this story? What does it say? Does it say you said fuck that gator in this article? Fuck that gitor. So there's a sign that's posted. It says no swimming alligators. and went Oh yeah, it said. He removed his shirt, removed his billfld. Someone shouted a warning and he said, blank that gator blank the alligators Fny They said fuck. they say blank. Why didn't they just write F dash dash dash, jumped in the water and almost immediately yelled for help That could have been what the gu actually Right, rightight, right, right. Yeah Immediately yelling for help is crazy U No Bueno. Yeah. I was in Florida a couple years back. We went alligator hunting and they're everywhere Like it's kind of disconcerting We're in the Everglades, like in there's a ranch where you can go hunt alligators It is a They're everywhere It's not hard to find them. They're fucking all over the place. Like it's how many of them are there that you don't see is the real question. It's a weird feeling because I thought like it would be like hunting elk. likeike you got to go find them, like would' be glassing for them. Where's the elk? go over the next ridge. Do you hear anything? Do somebody make a call Yeah? Do you hear that out there? No, no, no No, no, no. There's there's one. Oh there's one. Oh, there's one. Oh, here's one, or here's a dead one. Here's one another alligator killed. They're fucking. look at this dinosaurs. Where is this? This is guy's tent? Yeah Bro, run. Yeah, get that video off. What is I've seen this. H seen this in like Brazil? I think so yeah. This is in Brazil. I think this guy Oh, fuck all that. lookook all the eyes. Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah that was what I was trying to God. That's terrifying. four. So they must all come out of the water at night and this dude put his tent there Oh my Godd, dude, that is insane. That's insane. And you know they're all hungry There's that many of them. How many deer can they eat? you know? They're not small at all, dude. They all could eat you. Fuck all that. But the weird feeling about Florida being there was the just the sheer numbers of them and then knowing how many pythons there are And I didn't see any Pythons, but I go, how many do you guys see Pythons that it bro Like occasionally, you'll be just driving and you'll see something making its way across the road and it's fifteen feet long No no gass like a fucking football player's thigh. I don't I don't mess with that. So I don't I'm I would way rather be in the water with sharks Because at least you can You can, you know, you can open your But you find a tree if you're out in the woods. Yeah. But, I don't know, man. It's tree swamp. Yeah donon't go in the water water there. But outside of the water, I would way rather be on ground. if you're like if you have, you know, distance and a gun, you have a lot of things. When you're in the water with a shark, you're fucked me. You can barely move. Well you can actually if if you They're really deterrent by if you touch their nose. So if they're coming at you and you poke them, hit their nose They're usually going to turn for real Yeah. Have you done this real? it get so I'm done I't crazy So when they come after you, don't flip your legs and scream and flow. keepep getting under. keep them in front. Pop them.. Pop them on the nose.op them I've heard that before. I've heard punch them. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, here it says. Bop the nose. punching a shark in the face save this Ho Hawaiian surfer I mean it's not good either. You don't want to be in the water with an angry shark. Well in Florida, they don't have as many shark problems, but they do have bull sharks And I was watching this video, there's these guys that go fishing. I guess it's the keys and they go off of this giant bridge and it's like real far to the water. So they have to have this like gaff system where they drop a line down and they gaff the fishhing and they have to pull it up They're catching these tunas and they never get them to the bo. the bridge They're just getting destroyed by sharks. There's sharks all over the place down there. Yeah, bulls sharks are real dangerous because they They'll keep attacking Whereas a lot of charks bite out of, you know, misconfusion, right? They They sort of think you're a seal or something and don't know and then they bite and Yeah, okay Bull sharks, they'll just keep coming Chihuahuas. likeike pit buulllls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, fuck those things. They catch them a lot now. What is going on with this guy sharksating the tuna. Oh, really? I thought this was a video I it' actually Well this guy' actually in the water. The guys that I've seen is this in the keys as well? I said big sharks circling I thought Imagine you're pulling a fish in and you see a shark. You're like, you just take it, takeake the fish Jesus Christ But a lot of guys they pulled them in, they're cut in half, you know. ye. So you can they bull shark fish down there now. you can catch bull sharks every day. They're trying to reduce the population because apparently it's a very high population. You know, bull sharks are the reason why Jaws was made. Do you know the original story behind Jaws? No, I don't know that. The inspiration was actually bullshark attacks in freshwater on a river in New Jersey So bull sharks are one of the weird sharks that can live in freshwater and right? Is this the thing? nineteen sixteen? Yeah. So this is the they caught that bull shark. And they killed, I think two people, right A series of shark attacks, four people were killed and one critically injured Inidents occurred during a deadly summer heat wave polio epidemic in the United States that drove thousands of people to seaside resorts in the Jersey shore So They think it's a bullshark. It says there's been a debate but it's in fresh water. It's not fortieth anniversary draw screening in that bay and people sat in the water to watch them Also natural selection. they've found bull sharks as far north as Illinois Oh yeah, up the river system. Yeah, they make their way up the river. That's scary. That's crazy. It's the most aggressive shark and they've found them in fresh waterater I think that dude that used to have that show River Monsters. you remember that guy? Oh yeah, I remember the show. Yeah, fish all the time like the craziest reedneck No, he wasn't a rednecked was? It was actually like a educated guy with a foreign accent Where was he from? Rver mononsters? Yeah. I mean, I remember the show. I just don't I don't know if I' ever watched it. I just remember seeing it What's it The River monstererss guy, the guy with the grrey hair He was a fisherman. Jeremy Wes That's his day Yeah, whereere's he from He's not from America, right? There you go Yeah. British biologist. I think he did an episode on the Bll sharks. I think there was one of those where they were trying to catch them in fresh waterater. They realized like these things they go way up the rivers. Yeah. And they can live in freshwater unlike all the regular sharks. Yeah. I think Maybe some of them can But I think most of them have to be in saltwater, like greatreat whites, stuff like that. have to But they do I mean, they've tagged greatreat Whites and they they'll go around the world. I mean, you think they would have They thought you, historically that they stayed in certain temperature of waters and certain migrating patterns, but they've found them all over Yeah My daughter got really into megalodons at one point in time. so we really started like researching megalodons. She got a like hunting. No, not really You know what I mean for the Oh, no they try just got one online. But you you'd start watching documentaries on megalodons and you know, and then there's the people that think that megalodons might still be out And you're like, okay, probablyably not. but either way, like the fact that that thing actually exists B wild shhark, the size of a whale They're fucking everything up. Yeah. L you wouldn't be surfing if there was Megalodons, would you Probably still would. I mean, I mean, don I don't know. I mean Not a bad way to die, I guess. Swallow your wholeon You have to get you'll suffocate and get digested. Yeah out there' doing something you love Yeah. you know, it's a good story guess for other people I mean, it'd be pretty quick You know, what's worse? What's worse You lived this crazy long life and you're in bed for the last five to seven years of your life and you're hurting and you're like dealing with cancer or this, that or just bam, hit by a shark I don't know Yeah. I could see it I guess But still The instinct to stay alive is so strong Yeah when I'm hundred years old and in my bed, I'm like, babbey they're going to have a new drug that's going to bring me back to life They probably will be able to do that too, which is going to get real weird. If they really can take old people like I was watching this video where they were talking about human skin cells at least in a lab They've been able to take human skin cells and take like sixty year old skin cells and make them twenty again Yeah That's going to be really weird Well, I just don't here's the thing. like I'm all about living the best version of your life being as healthy as you can Maybe not for like the whatever you get, like being optimal Isn't kind of the most beautiful thing about life is that it is finite Yeah and that it's like people are' like, I'm going to live forever. It's like. It's like I don't know I want live forever. Yeah No, there's something to that, man. Have you seen this trailer for this movie called White Whale Fall? Actually, Josh Bolin happens to be in it. mentioned him earlier. What happens? It gu gets eaten by a whale? No way. It's in the trailer so it's not a spoiler And it's about him surviving Is it real? J I don't believe fing through that things beingys in the whale's mouth. Oh the whale eats them wh scuba diving. Oh Jesus. And then the rest of the movie is about Getting now, Get now, I guess. Well, how long does he stay inside the whale's body?ittle complex eighty five ninety five minutes, I bet. He's eighty five to ninety five minutes inside withith his scuba tank inside the whale's body. This is bananas, dud Oh my go, it just keeps swallowing it. I mean that's what the movie is. Oh God, damn it. Is that real? Is that a new? This the real movie The movie comes. Oh my go. I saw the trailer recently and I was just rem me think of itking. It might be awesome or the dumbest movie that's ever been made. I can't decide Yeah, I don't know how What do you do if you have a knife? Do you try to carve your way out off the whale? Yeah You have to. You have to have a knife. Yeahah, you would. But how much time would it take you to carve your way out of a whale forever You're going to run out of air If you have the scuba tank and you have a knife, do you really think you can get through a whale? And o how much that blubber? Oh They got a fish But it's not a It's a fucking bus.. You' hu. You're very motivated. That's true. That's true. But you gott to get through rib cages I don't know if that's a thick enough plot to have a whole move they can't deal with this.p is Scott. Yeah. This is the big thing. We're green light. This is it. This is our jaws. are the That's so bad. How long would it take you to carve your way out of a whale Well, he foots sperm whale and he's got less than an hour of oxygen So that's time's enough time. I' that's enough time. You don't got to clw craw for eighty feet. I think if you kept cutting it up, it might throw up If you kept cutting the inside of his tongue just kept slashing at all that, he might just throw you up ye. Yeah. he might recognize there's something wrong Like you would. L if something was if you put something in your mouth that started biting your tongue you'd be like You try to get rid of it. I would imagine the whale would do that too. I' just start fucking up his tongue There you go. Also keep you from getting digested. J stab them and just pull yourself forward And again. You have an exit plan. You've got a plan. You're not going to cut your way out. I just think there's too much bone I don't think you're going to make through it through that bone unless you go through I don't even know where you would go. like the next. I could figure out how to get through on an elk. I'll go that way go where the holes are. There's holes back here where the, you know, the guts are and there's holes up here, you know, like where you'd shoot them if you're shooting a frontal They're not going to cast you in this movie. They're like, though, he's getting out too quick. I don't think I'm getting out quick. I think I'm ding of no air. I don't think I'm gonna to make it. Let's look at the anatomy of a sperm whale here.'re here. See, I want to get out through the neck. See right there? That's where I want to get out. But all that stuff there If you' the bottom Yeah, but you're not it's gonna take too long for you to get through all those Now you go right to the sphincter and just like, you know, open the littleothole. Yeah, just convince him to d Digest quickly. No, there's too much traveling Okay, you're going to want to you're going to want to go through where you came in. You don't want to go through the intestines part No. And also you're dealing with asses They're going to burn and I think you want to cut through the front So I think as he's swallowing you, you got to dig in And you got to make your way through the bottom of his jaw. You got to start cutting and maybe you get out Lets greenlit this movie We need to find out crazy person Maybe it's really good. Josh Brolins did it. It's probably killed. actually's probably of a pretty popular like New York Timess best selling novel. Oh my go. sounds like a pretty good story They made a movie out. There was a whale they spotted fairly recently that had a harpoon in it from the eighteen hundreds Oh wow. Yeah That's a lie. Yeah It was alive Yeah and it had this harpoon embedded in it See if you can find that store That's a wild. might be some Instagram horssehit. two seven, but yeah, fairly recently. I remember that. They found this whale and they recognized that the harpoon was from the eighteen hundreds. Yeah, two thousand seven, Native Alaskan whalers near Barow, Alaska made a remarkable discovery a fifty foot bowhead whale found with a metal fragment of a late nineteenth century bomb lance An explosive harpoon embedded in its neck. The artifact traced to New Bedford, Massachusetts. The explosive harpoon was patented in eighteen seventy nine and manufactured in the late eighteen eighties So the whales age by survival surviving the initial attack whale lived for over a century, with the metal tip lodged safely in its neck thick blubber The extraordinary survival story helped biologists prove that bowhead whales can live for one hundred to over two hundred years. Did the whale get shot near Massachusetts or did they travel to Alaska with de That's a good question Well, they were probably whaling in Massachusetts a lot. So they probably like made good tech like East Coast manufacturing And then they probably shipped it off to Alaska. There's not as many people up there They probably didn't have as much manufacturing I imagine they sh in the eighteen seventies they shed Yeah They would ship things by train. They would ship things by train and boats into the Yeah. I mean, they always had that. they always had trade You know, you could always ship things not easy, but if you wanted to get guns, like say if there was a you know, if the army was in California In the eighteen hundreds, they had to get guns and they would get the guns shipped to them. They' either carry the guns with them as they made their way across the country or they can get them shipped to them Yeah, I went to u I shot a movie in Iceland. Oh F feels like twenty year I think was twenty years ag U What was it The movie Yeah who was called Flags of were Fathers. And it was also World War II and you know The whailing sort of trade was it's not wasn't looked at in the same way, I think Americans Like look at wailing. they're like, my God, how dare you? They look at it's normal. Yeah.. It's it was really interesting. They had to stay alive. Yeah. and it's like where do you draw the line? It's everyone's gotut this like, oh, you can't kill this, but I can have my Listen dude, T live in Iar whaling is on the menu. Yeah, because you need to stay alive. like especially way back in the day. there There was not a lot of resources in Iceland You you know They have a fermented shark dish in Iceland that it's very popular that Bourdain told me was the single most fucking disgusting thing he's ever eaten. Really. And it's a delicacy, like they all love it. S you can findine fermented shark thing. we That whale was interesting question kind of like what I asked. It's it was even older There's like another problem is that device would have been used up by eighteen ninety, it says, because they were very popular. I don't know how specifically would have gotten in that whale. Interesting. says what you don't know is if some Yankee whaler had a harpoon made in eighteen thirty, traded it to an Inuit and then the Inuit or his offspring used it forty years later But because the bomb lance was patented and stocks were used up quickly, Bach Stos and his colleagues identified a narrow window, which they believe the whael was shot somewhere between eighteen eighty five and eighteen ninety five. Biologists in Alaska will now try to verify the estimate by examining the lens of the whale's eyes. Wha whales generally become cloudy, their eyes become cloudy as they age Found only in Arctic waters, the bowhead was in danger being hunted to extinction at the turn of the century, but bounced back after demand for whale borne whale bone corsets plummeted Holy shit, dude. That was it. whale bone corsets were killing all the. Imagine the whales,re like, why are they killing us? Are they eating us? Like no, these chicks, they just want to suck their waist in tight. Guys think that's What? No, no, they can't be serious, right? That's what they made them out of Oh wow. So it had like spines from the whale bones What So that's what it looked like like a core. they turn into like almost like a like strap Whaleball It's whale pone. range What? Imagine having to figure that out. Why wouldn't they just use wood wh? They probably ate the whales and then they were like, o, look there's excess bone we can use. Yeah, I guess they probably just had the bone and realized it was kind of flexible I went I went to my buddy's cattle processing plant in California and they use everything. I mean everything they use The u Part of the heart, I believe. Oh, it's an Oregon, I can't remember. They use it in medical operations. They pull it out and then they send it on ice They use it for some patching of the heart thing. I mean, down to everything, hooves everything. Wow. And it it's actually like fascinating to seeing youre like, o, this is super efficient. This uses for a lot of different applications for hidee, for all kinds of stuff. Which makes sense because it's all valuable. Why would you not use it all? And It makes people feel better if you know that the whale is being completely harvested like every completely Everything is used. Yep. That's awesome Yeah. I mean If you have a connection, that's really the best way to get food. If you have a connection with a really good ranch and they're real ethical and it's all grass fed meat and animals are raised on a pasture like They're supposed even the way they slaughtered him at this place was super, it was really gent and that was the whole thing It's like Taking aou This is part of life, right? Life eats life And the way they did it was ally painless and was just boom, boom and then it was su Was it no country for old men style? P Oh the air bullet buet to the head. It goes to the Apparently that just shuts the lights off, shuts the lights off quick and then they bleedem out. How bad ass was that Motherfucker in that movie? Javier, Oh my God. Javier was so good in that. It might be one of the single best performances I've ever seen in a movie. Yeah. because you believed him You believed him. When he's making that dude flip that quarter O. You know, he's I mean, he gives you the chills. Oh yeah. that hair that weird haircut. weird haircut. And but it's just the commitment to being a psycho. Like that dude's got some darkness in his eyes. That Yeah. L at that weird haircut. Crazy haircut he just Javier is a bad motherfucker dude. H There's something about his bad guys that are like this Cpe fear role that he's in now.. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it either but the fucking trailer made me uncomfortable. Just seeing him in the trailer. Yeah, he's a good creep he plays a real good psycho You know, there's some dudes where like, I believe it And some guys you're like, come on, man, you're a nice guy. Also the original Cape fear I mean, Robert Naro and the original Cape Fear, man. You've played bad guys. Do you have a problem playing bad guys? Is it hard for you to get into it? Like what is more challenging for you play a bad guy or to play The World War II thing, you' got to play someone from a different era, which I would imagine has its own challenges But is it hard for you? You can see you're so nice. Like you do you have a hard time when you play bad guys Well, I gott to do it for Guy Richie, which was like, you know, the ultimate, right P Rules. Yeah in Wrath of Man. and it was actually kind of liberating, kind of fun could sort of do things you're not supposed to. you know, you could like act out on your imppulses a little bit, You know, you think of something fucked up in your head and you're like Why whyy did I think that? punch that person in the face? whyy did I think that you kind of like You know, to like a lesser extent, you obviously aren't. doing everything, but you could kind of like revel in your own messed up thinking. But I don't I don't love doing it to be honest. I think Uh I think I want to do it very selectively. like I mean for guy Rich, I'll do anything, right? He's I think he's one of the best, best best. everver. Look at Jew. Yeah And so you know, was I had to kill a kid there. I had to just do the dirty work and get it done. Even look evil there. L something Something's different. Yeah. Look at your face Does doesn't look like you. You look evil. You look likeg genuinely evil Yeah It was loose I was tying up loose ends there Is it when you're doing that when you're playing an evil guy, are you thinking evil A little. I look, I mean, at the end of the day, it's a job. I I treat it as a job I'm not one of these crazy psychos that like Let Things become distorted in your mind. When you pretend you're Abraham Lincoln for six months I mean, yeah, I mean, I believe him Daniel Day, like I believe him So I don't know. Maybe, you know, maybe I You know, if you want to be the best, I think it comes with a price in that price sanity Yeah. A little bit of sanity. You gott to give it up My dad was never like that. He was like, It's a job. like go to work, do the best you can putut in the reps, makeake sure you know your shit and you come prepare and you have something interesting. Leave at the door, man. Yeah, you know. You see people like their minds get twisted and And we deal in with artists, right artists are? I can me special sometimes Yeah, and they take themselves very seriously. Yeah. But there's also a certain amount of you have to be thinking about how that character would think, right? If you're really going to pull it off. And you really did pull it off. So you had to be having some thoughts. Yeah, yeah, yeah ye have some like you have some I would love to talk to you. I was like it was it was a greedy role Yeah. And I was like I kind of let the greed take over Which is a little, which is a little scary. So do you have to think like a greedy guy before the like like when you're getting ready for a scene Like how do you get your head in that space Yeah, a lot of a lot of manifesting sort of those thoughts and emotions like what fuck and do home take whatever buck I want. Y you' sort of You know, you you Play that Then you gott to let it go Like end of the day, man, you got to let it go. Right. You got to be like, all, cool, that was that was that thing. And then it's gota be slippery, right I think it can be if you don't have If you value this Cer too preciously and you don't realize, hey, we're telling stories. It's fun. I'm so grateful I've gotten to do it U, but it doesn't define me. It might have made me Break me. Right. I have other interests and other things and I know there's other important shit out there that I could do in this life I think you have to have that level of thinking Because if you think this is everything and I mean, it's too extreme. It's like extreme what we werere talking about before. it can get to It's not healthy. Well, a lot of people have problems after rollles are done. Like apparently Jim Carerey really struggled after he played Andy Kaufman Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to talk to him about that because it seems like he got from all accounts, the people that work with him on the film, like he got so into that character that he was like being Andy Kaufman all the time. Yeah, we heard a lot of accounts, like it it was like they were like, dude you got to chill. you got G a chill I mean, I've worked with some that have taken it to the level. Yeah, they said Jared Letto did that when he was playing the Joker. The people like, Hey, man, stop Stop sending me dead birds Rats You dead rats. U Chy Le Bf. I Yeah. Le Bouf. Le Bouf. I don't know. I always get corrected. Sorry, Chho Shire. But yeah, there's a lot of those guys they they go into that rabbit hole and they can't crawl out It's just, I think just having also it's like frontal cortex being to find rightly? You get famous too early when you you know, I I worked as a valet, I worked as a barbag. I f did all these shitty jobs that you know You kind of like, oh, no, I understand like how the real world operates. You get famous too early, you get stunted in your growth. And I truly believe that. I think so too. And I think it's a real crime when they do it to little kids' hundred percent They never make it out normal. No. I never met one Leo Leo. Leo made it out. Yeah. Yeah. I he was a child actor. That's right. he had good people around him. He had, you know, he he's disciplined and he A Yeah, he's got a good L sense of the world That's good. ye. But he always has like twenty year old girlfriends. It's easy to havey. Is it everying on a yacht with twenty year old twenty year old. I don't understand. Like what do they even talk about But at the end of the day may less. very few. Well he did really, he really was famous You pretty young though. Yeah. Re young. He might be the only one. But I mean I guess Jodie Foster seem seems pretty put together. She doesn't seem like she's lost her fucking marbles. But then you see the Britney Spears of the Worlds and these other people and you go, o man, I don't think that was really good for them. You know Yeah there's I think also Corey Feldman. you see these people that were like huge movie stars and they're young and as they're getting older, it's like I don't think they're doing good You think their heads all fucked up Yeah, well when you place too much value on that too and then it goes away or where's your identity I had Macaagy Gulkin in here. He was very interesting. U very nice guy, like very smart guy, interesting guy But he struggles You know, it's like He realizes he I was sort of robbed of a normal childhood. Yeah. became famous as a little kid, man. Home alone. He was little My dad, I mean, kudos to my dad because he did a really good job of us from that and very private. We didn't live in L.A. didn't live, you know, we lived in Carmel. it was a very you know, as normal as it could be, but in the sense that he was like, no, that's, you know, you just you need to be a normal child and learn how the world works. Carmel's beautiful man It is. Nice place to grow up. Yeah. They say they say newly wed and nearly dead Right? That's what it is.'s right. People get married there and then they fucking go there to die. Yeah. It's so true Yeah. It's a little slow for me But it's beautiful. I do I do appreciate it. But they are annoying homeowners associations. Oh yeah. Come on. How about that? You were at the gag and you to didn't know what you werere supposed to do. This is off white This is not quite Your fence is the wrong color Yeah king get a life to old people love to control their neighborhood. They get horrible on those homeowners' associations O people who are really into controlling the neighborhood, like Mm I'm like so bored with that story. I'm like, God, can you just be different? Can you just surprise me with something else, you know? Yeah. And old people like to liliver on other old people too, makes them feel comfortable They don't want to be around parties Yeah So that's why Carmel like calls out to them. If you keep the real estate price high, Now you got old people living around old rich people Rich people ye. Yeah the most fun They're the most fun. They're the most fun. Yeah, They're the most entitled Yeah most they think they could tell you the most what to do because they used to telling everybody what to do. Honey But still, Carmel, fucking beautiful, beautiful part of the count Cast. Oh my God. And also sharks O there, a lot of great whites. lot of sh They're all over the place up there. Yeah Yeah But it's California Men is one of the most beautiful places on Earth. It has so much variation There's something me you got deserts, you got the beach, you got mountains, you you got everything All in this one beautiful state Yeah, everyone was, I mean, even in the like development of our country, I was like everyone was going out west because it was so prestigious. It was like, o, the gold rush and getting out west And then California, really L.A. it was the movie industry And that's really what makes it it's kind of sad now because it's completely driven it I mean, there job to be sh. Yeah barely have TV shows. Barely barely It's brutal Brutal Do used to live there? You live out here now? Yeah, I kind of I tell people I live on the road 'cause that's essentially where I am You know, I was I was Atlanta I was here. I was there. It was in Italy making a movie. Well, that's the thing about film, right? Like they're never' how many films get filmed in Los Angeles these days? It's not not even beneficial to live there.'ve never, I don't think I've ever worked on Maybe I've worked on one film, but it was for a week And it was we shot the rest of it somewhere else They make it so hard for people now, so stupid it's rough. It's rough. It's it's a sad because Oh Film is, you know, inherently likeike Hollywood is inherently something that we've produced out of California out of America and It's like to see that u just get completely blown up industry Oh Do you have friends still live back there Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. tons of California friends and You know, I look, I was never, I don't have a lot of industry friends I do have some Dos like sometimes aren't my people They're just not. Right. I just, I don't know. Like I don't want to intellectualize about it. I don't want to talk about acting. You know what I mean? Like's like it's like cool. It's something I do, but it doesn't define me You know, someome of them are just They're so self important. Yeah And it's, you know, it's not even almost not their fault, almost because they're getting their asses kissed all the time They're on sets and people are trying to get them bagels and coffee and everyone's always catering to them. So they start feeling like they deserve that from the world. Yeah. It just gets real weird It it gets weird. There's a lot of deep insecurity in that industry, right? It's masked by, by like false security, right? Like it's like, I'm the man. I'm tougher. I'm I'm this thing you build this ego up and you're like, Yeah. dude, like we're just doing the job here Can you get to set and shut the fuck up It's just the attention that you get, you know, you get so much attention from the world that you start thinking you're important You know, it's natural natural for human beings, but especially even more natural for people that pretend to be someone else for a living. No and like some of the accountability man in the industry is unbelievable. you know to work with somebody that I think was just without saying any names, but you know, just Maybe You know, people just get like too famous for too long because they think the world owes them something and then when it comes to like doing the right thing You could just Black and white, do the right thing. Don't be a piece of shit. You can't do that. That's unacceptable behavior I no that I can do and you're say, what? What are you talking about exactly You could You could say a name and then we'll edit it out. want to do that? Well, yeah, I just, you know, we started working on a film with with a and And they decided And after we hadd spent a bunch of money that They just didn't feel like they wanted to work with this other person and didn't want to do the Do the job, do the thing And so I was like, okay, well, you need to pay that money back now person who invested in you , I'm not doing do that. That's like, well, yeah, you do Yeah, you do. That's the right thing to do. So they decided they didn't want to work with another person. Yeah. didn want to work with like another person after we like started pre production on the film. So they try to get the person kicked off the movie or were they They just left. And they just it was their directorial, their story, their thing. It was just like money from somebody That's also a good way to get sued That seems like person can get sued pretty easy for that Yeah, but it's just, it's like it's just the bigger bigger thing is just I've seen some behavior in this business that is shocking. would not go in other industries, but for some reason because they're stars Yeah you're like what? It's also the thing there's a thing that some people want to be a star so they can behave like that. They want to be a star stord that can order people around or just do whatever the fuck they want to do and just be unpredictable and wild. like they they actually enjoy that aspect of being famous. Yeah, I to be honest, I never I really didn't like people People think they want to be famous. You don't want to be famous You don't want to be famous. Rich Yeah, Rich is better, Rich is better. but too be like that goal is so twisted. It's not like I love telling stories and when we're doing a creative endeavor and you move people, whether you'll make them laugh, make them cry, whatever. The whole other side of that is like just really ugly. and it's I think I was lucky in some ways because I got to see it growing up and got to see it how it's bullshit. A Right. When your dad's one of the most famous movie stars of all time, and he's just your dad You go, oh, this is bullshit. It's bullshit. Yeah. compleomte bulls. And also your dad is not like a guy who gives into that stuff either He's not a guy Whips that kind of fame or he's not interested in that at all. Not at all. He's just a Put your boots on go to work, man It happens to be in a creative endeavor, which is really cool and gets to use that, you know, use that muscle but Did you hesitate at all about getting into acting because your dad was so famous at it Sure, I think I was always looking I think I was always like, hey I love telling stories. I love watching movies I love this I don't if exactly I wanted to ever just an actor It wasn't like, oh, that's my, but you love my f. I love the storytelling of it. I was like a conduit in. I'm doing other other things in film now producing and I do want to direct U It'd be nice to like show up with my own clothes to work Yeah Whar last were't here Um But also Films like director's medum It's not really an actor's medium. You need actors. It's part of the deal, but The making of a film goes way beyond the filming of a film You know, there's a film made in script and development, there's a film made while you're shooting it and there's film made in editing Have you ever directed anything before I've, you know, Done in a creative capacity where I've been a producer, I've had hand in directing But not like hey, that's my. That's my name on on the thing. and I'm super proud of it. I just haven't find the right material To go out to go out and kind of shleep around. Do you write No, no. And I it's the backbone of the industry. Right Yeah, if you could write your own thing. I don't know how like when like the discipline to do it like for what you do is It's it's tough, you know, you have to thought to paper it's That doesn't interest to you does in a sense, I just don't like sitting. You know what I mean? I am really good at collaborating and talking about material and saying, what about this? What if he said this? What if he did this? What about this? Can we go this way So I think maybe you can have a writing partner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeahah. mayaybe you have a writing partner, someone who you jive with that's creative and you guys could get together and you could come up with your own idea. That way you have like material that's exciting for you and you could direct that Because I would imagine if you've been working with guys like Guy Richie and all these directors you work with,'ve got a chance to see the discipline in the highest level. like you get to see those guys do it. You know, you get to see how they piece it together. It must be fascinating. It is and everyone has a different different way of going about it. likeikey Guy Richie, here's the thing about Gy Richie You learn the script Th you show up. And he's just like throws it out the window and goes You say this, you do that, you do this and then you're like Okay. And so if you're not, it doesn't work for everybody. Some people can't handle that heat I love it. I'm like, this is awesome. Let's let's what is it? Okay, let's go So meaning he wants you to improvise. He wants you to talk like a real person. It's not necessarily that it's improvising. it's more He's seeing the movie. he's wearing multiple hats. So he's seeing the movie what he's already shot. and then he's like, I actually don't want that scene. I want him to say this and this. He kind of like is molding the movie real time in real time. And then what he'll do is he'll go to his trailer They have like a blacked out trailer. and they'll watch the movie and he'll They'll radio in and say, Hey, say it like this or do it like this, or you know, do it one more time. So he's kind of like watching the movie as an audience member Really interesting. Is he the only one you know that does it that way? Yes, one hundred percent. And then you have guys like my dad who would never do that. They would they wouldn't even they're just they are like right there Just going. Okay. Have you heard Mat Damon's story which one. Matt Damon was working with your dad and he did a take And and he liked it, but he wanted to do it again because we do it again and Clint's like, no, we got it. Yeah. He's like, but I've been fucking working forever on this O one one more go at. He's like, we got it. Yeah. And he probably said something like Well, if you want to waste everyone's time, sure And the mat's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good U so funny. Yeah it's so funny Yeah, it um Whatever Gy Richie's process is, it works. It works. his fucking shows, his movies are some of my all time favorites. Right from the beginning, right from lockstock and two smoking barrels and snatched. Holy shit, his movies are so good And he really did such a fantastic job of Almost like u He's like the benchmark for that genre of like British crime genre. Yes. That's him. That's him. That's that you think of British crime drama. Oh, Gy Richie. Guy Richie movie. Like there's this dude, his name iss Lee Murray Lee Murray, he was a UFC fighter. He was famous in London in England for being like a street fighter and this crazy guy who was fighting in MMA at a really high level, like one in the UFC then was a part of the biggest armed robbery in the history of the UK. No way. Oh yeah, this guy was a full on psycho.' a gangster. Oh, full gangster. He was such a gangster that he got stabbed in the heart in a street fight And they made a video of him hitting Mitt six weeks later Six weeks later, he's back in the gmopopop It's he was crazy person. I got to see him fight in real life. He actually knocked out a friend of mine, but so he got firstst He got arrested crime. Oh yeah. Oh he's still in jail. He's still in He's still in jail. He'll be in jail for probably the rest of his life. They stole an enormous amount of money and they did it like in a very high tech Like like the movie heat Like that crazy. Yeah. L they had full masks on armored body armor, the whole deal. Yeah. And How much do they steal? D three million. Oh wow,y million dollars. The biggest, I think it's the biggest armed robbery in Britain's hory. I They hurt people doing it They didn't hug him. They didn't help them. I don't know if he killed. I mean, Im just wondering like if The largest peacetime cash robbery in world history. Wow So it's worth ninety two million dollars fifty three million pounds back then So that was in two thousand six. So this is after he had been in the UFC. So I, you know, I called this fight in the USC. I was doing commentary back then U They left over one hundred fifty million behind, one hundred fifty million pounds because they ran out of room in their transport vehicles. Holy shit. How do they get caught? Only about twenty one million pounds of the stolen cash has ever been recovered So somebody made a away with more than thirty million pounds So we flew to Morocco. Murray and several associates fled to Morocco because he held dual British Moroccan citizenship and Morocco did not have an extradition treaty with the UK. He evaded British authorities. Moroccan police arrested Murray in June of two thousand six in a shopping mall and wereot following an international manhunt Instead of being extradited, he was tried in in Morocco. After initially being sentenced to ten years, Moroccan Appeals courourt extended his sentence to twenty five years in prison for his role in forming a criminal gang, kidnapping and armed robbery So like When this guy got arrested and when everyone shar the story, everybody was saying That guy's gotta be a guy Richie movie Yeah Like that's that's how muchcent Guy Richie has like locked down that genre And I think there was some talk Is there talk about Gy Richie doing a movie on the Lee Murray Heist came out and Casing lightning. It came out ear? No, no. I did it that. but something came out. It's like a mini series about it. Oh about the height Sim But has Guy Richie been connected to a movie about it because I know a bunch of people are talking about it saying like it has to be a Gy Richie movie. Like if you're going to really capture who this guy was Yeah, he was a real nut, like a real like W class fighter Who would plan? like give me the 'cause I don't know what he looks like. Jason Stay them could probably nail him. Okay.. And there it is. He's perfect cast already. Yeah. I mean He doesn't have the hair for it, but because Lee Muray had full head of hair. But it doesn't matter. It's been a rumor for a long time, but he instead did a true crime docQ series called The Diamond Heist instead. This is like a similar story It's not the same story Okay The story itself is so bananas. It's just the fact that this guy was this world class MMA fighter. Yeah who? was also a robber, like a high level bank robber. I mean, you don't steal like ninety million dollars without Do they have footage of that robbery Is there video footage of it? I feel like there's security footage of it and they look nuts it looks like a movie. You know, they might it might be fucking masks on everything, the whole deal It's just that When you think about that kind of a guy and that kind of a story, I mean that is right up Ky Richie's All He like that show moobland. God, that show so good. It's good. It's good so good It's so good. It's so like it's like a movie that's like seven hours long or however many episodes there are. That's great It really is great Who is he f who is do you have a favorite guy that you've worked with?'s he's got to be. I mean, he's Yeah, if him A You know, I got to work with Oliver Stone. Oh, that's awesome, whichich is like, you know sitting with the devil. Iiconic command A George Tilman Junror is a great director. I don't know if you remember that movie Men of Honor. Yes. Remember with Cuby Cutting Junr.. Sure. He's a great director Um, there's a lot of there I've I've gotten to, you know, work with some really cool David Ayers is really interesting That gu a tough I don't know if you No, his story, but he was He's had a really dark past, but he was essentially, he lived on a submarine for like two years, like underwater. Whoa. Yeahah, I'm like, you got some screws less if you lived on a submarine for two years. Underwater for two years and fuck you up for two hundred yearsars. I know. I'm just thinking about getting how claustrophobic you could get. Like, I gotta get out of this G me out. You're squashing that part of your brain way too long. Yeah. I could do that for an hour. I don't know if I I don't even know if I want to get in a submarine after I watch the, um The tin can they just exploded. Oh those people. Oh yeah. I was like oh, that's Not wise. D When you watch the recreations of what must have happened to them, they were just liquefied instantaneously by the pressure of the ocean That'd be a way to go Maybe better than a shark. Quick.'s like that. Yeah, but then people are talking about you like you're an idiot. Like you' got in that stupid tin can. You're a billionaire idiot. evenven worse. I can't go down like that. Think about all these fucking people that would love to have a pieace of your money so they could go have a margarita on your lake go to Tid Can. It's gonna be great. I go on the bottom of the ocean. Tell everybody, I look through a tiny window. fuck you Well, had, you know, I had a conversation with Cameron Cameron went James Cameron went to the bottom of the fucking ocean by himself. No, no, that's not. There's so much wrong with that. He would be like bottom of the Mariana Trench, right? Like I think he's the he holds the world record for like single piloted submarine vehicle, the deepest depths, like And I also I feel the same way about space You know, I'm like I'm a big musk fan, but I don't have any desire bro to go to Mars or go to space. How fun about that, bro. Have fun. You do that. Yeah. Okaykay. I'm all good here on this planet It must be awesome to be just I would like to be in Earths orbit once Just to look down I the like the fall be cool. They say you have that experience. like all these different astronauts have talked about it. It's the overview effect You When you're above Earth looking down on it, it just you're like, oh my God, we're so fragile. It's all just us together. We have to stop stop all this like you have this realization of what we really are and what we're really doing and how stupid tribal conflicts are and like world I mean, yeah W war. Yeah this always keep repeating the same cycle. It's sad, actually.'s's It's sad because eventually it'll probably happen again a worldld war. I mean, that's the like if you look at the math It's kind of happening right now What's going on, man? Are we gonna keep doing this? I guess, that's what we're doing It's very disturbing. When you're playing a character in a period piece like that. What do you have to do in terms of like make sure you're behaving like they behaves and talking like they've talked? like Did you have to watch film of those old people Yeah, you you talk to a lot of people in this case, this this movie you know, was about Jeez, or, you know, almost all passed away at this point. but I luckily got u I got to meet a lot of veterans because I've done twenty years of doing a few war movies so I've gotten to meet these folks and talk to them and hear their stories. see like sometimes the pain in their eyes when they tell these stories and you realize U liize the gravity. of what they're carrying and what they did for the world There's so many heroes in World War two, you know, so many people that did so many things that affect like our way of life. I mean, and affect a lot of the world's way of life. I mean All of France and most of Europe isn't speaking German because of what happened. And u So you carry like that weight with you it's it can be if it's a real if it's, you know You know the person you can watch tape on them, then you get you get that like luxury But if you don't then You know, it's just I think it's about carrying that weight and just Trying to be as true as you can to that. it comes with a cost doing doing these movies because Not only you go and make them, but then you go and promote them And you meet these people. I met one of the oldest living veterans the other night at the Washington Archives in DC. one hundred and seven years old. Wa. Colonel Stern and Gott to hold his hand. you know, and really quuite clear still had it like I mean like shockingly. When he spoke to me, I was like, o my gosh, but you could feel that generation that you could feel that what he had been through. he he was he was actually at the Battle of the Bulge whoa And you're like and then have him tell us like we got it right And that's what if like It like brought me to tears. I was like I was like kind of like I was shook So moments like that, it comes, you know, it's like, wow, this is this is a great responsibility. tell this story I can imagine having a conversation with one hundred and seventy year old guy ' been through and the war was what? How many years ago? nineteen forty two What is that I'm years ag U so he would probably would have been twenty. Yes. so right? He would have been like eighty four. Senty four years ago it's still the most probably thing that ever happened in his life Imagine that Imagine you're one hundred and seven years old and your life is kind of defined By something that happened eighty four years ago. Yeah Yeah, it's it's it's it's wild what they went through I mean w I imagine. I mean, if they're like, hey, pack up, Joe. Srat like we're we're going to wherever it is, like Whver we're going right now And we're gonna to have to kill people. And imagine the information you're getting. What are you getting like newspaper articles and a radio broadcast? Yeah Um What do you read show A battalion commander during World War two, Stern, his name was Senator Radcliffe What is his name? Herbert Irvingsttern. That's his name. Um So it says a battalion commander during World War two, Stern was awarded the Silver Star medal during the Battle of the Bulge for his actions. In april, nineteen forty five while driving through Germany, Stern, his men discovered a concentration camp with three thousand Jewish women They liberated the camp, providing immediate relief to the prisoners and destroyed the facility Isn't that amazing? Like we have to celebrate. You know, like if you imagine you're overseas you're you're a kid It's nineteen forty five and you liberate it a camp of three thousand Jewish women that are being imprisoned That gives me chills thinking about holy shit, man You imagine we could see what that guy seen I mean, I don't know if we want to. I mean, that would Change your hole. change your whole world. Like look on the world, man. I mean. But you have to think that way, right? When you When you're playing these guys, you have to almost put yourself in their head. How hard is that? Like what is that like? It's just it comes with like I said, it comes with a cost You You go through an emotional journey. You pay a price, you have to Lnd your own emotion and own Grief Whatever that is in your life and you have to kind of relive some of that and it's partart of, you know, going through what it would have been like to see some of these atrocities, to see what it's like to lose your best friend right beside you to lose people that are, you know to see a concentration camp full of women you know, probably skin and bones and Like it's just, you know, makes you just so it makes me so grateful for what We have and where we're at. It's also the human's capacity for evil When you're faced with it like that, it's so disturbing that people are capable of doing things like that and that they still are there's still I mean to this day, right right now, somewhere in the world, there's human beings committing atrocities and killing people I know It's, u utal. Butal think how savage we can become, like And it's crazy because if you think about it, it's like, we're not Far off Take water away for seventy two hours Dead So how quickly do we turn savage fighting each other if we don't have Basic needs Oh yeah, the civilization is a very thin veneer Yeah. It's very thin. And it's very vulnerable. And I think most people are delusional and they're ery well fed veryery well fed and rested. they don't have any idea precarious this thing that we exist in is I think when you're I would imagine when you're doing a World War II film or something like that, like you're forced to realize you're forced to encounter that reality of the human condition that sometimes, I mean, throughout history, that's kind of the defining moments of our past When you think about the history of the world, really you're talking about the history of war You're talking about the history of war and conquests, invasions and conquests. It's like most of what we talk about when we talk about history You know, we talk about the various wars and what happened and what was the result and who is the king and who did this. What was it over resources? This war was is really I think I think why it's so fascinating why World War I is still so fascinating is because There is no ambiguity between right and wrong in that war, really? Right. they were doing in Nazi Germany was terrifying, You know, they were exterminating innocent people and we came together as a world, you know? coalition and fought that evil. and that is different than a war like Vietnam where we're like, why are we here? or you know, you're questioning what Is this just a politically motivated thing? No, this was like This was to save Yeah that is That's very different Yeah, we think of that as our last great war. That is the World War two, in most people's eyes is the last just war. You know, we think it it's like that's the one that needed to be doneun Be it wasn't just evil people, it was evil people on Mh which is really crazy when you when we I didn't know that until a decade or two ago Yeah that they were all on meth And then we had Norman Ole, he wrote what How do I say his last name or He wrote this book Blitz and it's all about the Blitzkrieg when they went through Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Poland in like three days.. and they was all meth They just gave them meth. Yeah, that was in the beginning of the war. Yeah Yeah. They had like thirty five million doses of meth That is nice. And they gave the guys at the front of the lines the most mh The guys in the tanks like you guys get the most mh They wanted them just med up cracked up Just driving for three days killing everybody they see. And then when they ran into the people in France, they were all drinking wine So like they're all chilling and like they I just got fucked up man. Yeah. It's just It's Not that long ago. That's what's really scary. It is. It's super scary. Also what's what was crazy about This movie and You know, I learn something new every time I do a warar movie I didn't realize There were German Americans living in America Like live out a life here And when the war kicked off, there was a lot of them that went back to Germany and fought for Germany. C you imagine that? How many like like thousands. Wha. I went back and like you know, And then they were spies and they were they a lot of them spoke English. a lot of had the American culture, you know, they understood and they became like spies and it was like Can you imagine doing that? B Fuck. Yeah Imagine giving up America to go back to fight for Germany What Like hey hey hey, hey, hey, settle down. Hold on. hold the phone. Don't you know the spot is better? You should be fighting for this, you fucking dumbass. Yeah Yeah. The people that are willing to do that. different kind of brainwashing Yeah. I mean, you know, makes me think about some of the brainwashing we have nowadays, like And you kind of think like, oh like You know there's a lot of conspiracy theory stuff and I'm not I'm not a lot, but do see And we were talking about it today is like How strong is the government to like brainwash, you know, the MK ultra stuff? like the stuff where it's like You get like a patsy or get someone to do something that you want them to do, kill somebody, whatever. Yeah That's like really terrifying Yeah I think you' your own thoughts and emotions, but Also, if you find someone who's vulnerable, you can poes them slowly but surely into becoming a different person. You give them a purpose, you give them a direction. Yeah You can I mean, they've done it before. It's not they didn't stop doing it in the nineteen sixties. That guy who tried to shoot Trump, he was probably a product of that. Yeah. I vy had I guess. by some organization. I'm not saying it's the American intelligence agencies, but someone talked that young kid into getting on that roof and trying to shoot Trump Someone, you know someone gave him Direction someomeone just his background is too squeaky clean after it's over. They professionally scrubbed his apartment. His apartment was professionally scrubbed. There was no silverware in his apartment when they went to examine it. All of his hard drives were gone, all of his computers were gone He had more than one cell phone, which is very odd for a twenty year old kid and had no social media profile The whole thing was f. Can you explain to me to the theories going on with like the Charlie Kirk of it all because I know there's I've heard a lot of like stuff and a lot of smart people that I' back leg There's something going on with that we don't know the full Well, there's something going on with the guy being able to climb on top of that roof with a gun, dismantle it, put it back together again and then D dismantle it again and put it back together it again. The whole thing makes no sense. They think they have footage of him in a backpack So but a backpack doesn't carry a gun And so the excuse was, oh, we dismantled the gun then reconnected it. Well, That doesn't fly. So the problem with that is anybody who knows anything about guns knows that you take a scope off a gun, you take the barrel off the gun, you take the stock off the gun, you take you got to put it all back together again. You might not be on anymore. So you're going to have to you're going to have to sight that gun in. Right? And if you site that gun in, you're going to want to have targets to practice on You're not just going to take one hundred and forty yard shot or whatever it was where you shot Charlie Kirk, not knowing if your site is on because I I was hunting once and I fell with my rifle And we went back to the range to test it. it was off on a so when you're shooting on a block, so you're not moving at all. All you're doing is pulling the trigger. So just to make sure that the gun is on. It was off by six inches at one hundred yards, just by moving from a fall You know? And so you have to check that and then you have to site the gun back in You take a You just take the scope off and then you put it back on and screw it back together again. There's no guarantee that that thing's going to be accurate and This kid is not like a marksman. It's not like he's got a ton of experience shooting people and shooting at a distance The whole thing is it'ross the whole thing sounds gross. The text messages between him and his boyfriend or whatever it is where, you know, he's saying how he did it or he's going to do it. They seem like AI made them. It seems crazy And then there's also the fact that there was footage of him in a yogt shop. Is that verified? the footage that was in a yogurt shop that was like twenty minutes later The guy's just chilling at some fucking frozen yogurt store. That seems weird. What about this stuff with like the people that were like right around the shooting and stuff and like is there like some weird? Yeah there's a lot of people that think that that someone some of them were signaling for the shot to happen at a certain time. That's a lot of bullshit. seemems like speculation to me because You know, people move around all the time. People are in the crowd. if I was standing there and I went like this and at that moment someone got shot. Okay. now' making a mountain out of a O if you look at your watch at a certain point and that person gets shot. like a lot of movements going on. you could attribute that movement to someone signaling To me, what's weird is the actual wound itself So A thirty ox versus Well it it's not a big enough hole thirty od six is a big rifle round And to shoot a guy in the neck with a thirty out six, you would expect First of all, you'd expect an exit one. And there's no exit wound. It just goes in. and it looks like a smaller hole. It doesn't look like the kind of hole that I would expect from a large rifle round I would expect it to just blow a giant chunk of his neck right off That's a that's a round that you would shoot an elk with Big round And then there's a video footage of him from the back and it doesn't look like there's an exit There's no exit. So it just goes in his neck and stops. The details about him being a dairy queen are very we It seems like he was at a dairy quQeen, but they don't know which one and thought he was at closed down weirdly a couple of weeks afterwards. Okay, but he was there is footage of him at a dairy cl Yeah that just which one it was and Okay either way, after you shoot Charlie Kirk Do you really go to a fucking dirick We might before they say to. Oh go to best side Yeah Right before you go to Ch Charlie Cur. I might get one of them blizards. You know when them blizzards got out caffeine in it I think it's also weird that we haven't heard him talk. He hasn't taken the stand There's discrepancies between whether or not his family turned him in or whether or not he said he confessed to his family You know, I don't know what they're saying now.n't even there as an update as of june twelfth and a hearing This article says there hasn't been a pa entered yet That's crazy Prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty if Robinson is convicted He has not yet entered a plea How that happened in September. How has he not yet entered a plea Z like This is good they're going over details about you keep you in limbo. And the prosecution going public talking about the bullet fragment found and defense saying they shouldn' have done that. There's a whole back and forth about that Hmm I don't know. I don't pretend to know, but it just feels like there's a lot of stuff. I'm sure, like you said, there's some bullshit where people are going to go, Oh see look and you're like okay, come on. Tucker Crossell was just talking about it and he thinks that Israel killed him And he thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk. And then a lot of people saying that's ridiculous. And then How many people are getting paid by Israel to run cover and how many people are just saying that Israel did it without real evidence. I don't know. Um, but He was critical of Israel apparently in text messages and saying that he was going to get out of the Israel supporting business. I don't know what that means. You know, I don't Be apparently there was also a long letter that he wrote to Netanyahu, who' expressing his support for Israel Is that real? I don't know. It's so we these days to dis like Nothing is one hundred percent real. Yeah If it's a major news story involving anything significant, At least some of its's bullshit And so we're all just sitting here wondering, did this kid really shoot Charlie Kirk because of his position on trans people? Is that really what we're supposed to believe? He was in love with a trans man or a trans woman rather. And so he shot Charlie Kirk because of that? Really? Do you think like younger people though have like a bigger distrust in the media? I feel like now. I feel like that'ss changing. so it's maybe for the best. Yeah, for sure. But I mean, this isn't even the media. this is the government. This is the official position. like they paved over the crime scene. like days afterwards That's weird. Yeah, but there's a lot of weird shit, man The Thomas Crooks thing, they cremated him within days after he was killed. Where's the toxicology examination? Where whereere's the results? I want to know what kind of psych medication this fucking kid was on. Like what was he doing? Like What was happening? Why did he shoot at the presresident? Why did he kill people in the crowd Like what the fuck is going on? And, you know We don't ever get told. You know, this Tyler Robins thing is a weird one, man. It's weird Just the gun itself alone. I've heard varying depictions gettingetting on that fucking roof with a gun going through the stairwell with a gun. He doesn't have the gun. So he get the gun up there already? So they're saying it's in the backpack. No, it's not. It doesn't fit in the backpack. Well, maybe the stock, maybe the barrels in his legs. He taped it to his pants. Fuck off Fuck off. you can't put a gun back together again to make it that accurate I don't believe that And then he took it apart and then jumped off the roof W it and then put it back together again in the woods. Is that what they're saying I don't know if that's exactly what there's some version of it, but any version of it. where this guy under a high stress, high adrenaline situation is taking a part a gun and putting it back together again Sck off Fuck off. Like I don't believe that. Yeah, especially someone untrained. Yeah like not a Hey jumped off the roof afterwards and escaped. like, okay thing with a The first shooting, the professionally scrubbed department. That's a weird detail that doesn't seem to have It says right here, july twenty twenty four, House Homeland Security Committee hearing repep Eli Crane said he had received information that Crook's house was scrubbed, cleaned and even silverware removed before investigative units arrived. Crane entered the article making the allegation into record and from there professionally scrubbed and no silverware talking points spread through blogs, forums, exp posts, and podcasts What officials have said When Crane asked Pennsylvania State Commissioner Colonel Christopher Parris whether the home had been extremely clean or missing silverware, Parris implied that he had not been given any such details in his briefings I see, this is why life says I lived with his parents This is what I like though. you're fact checking yourself. and I think this is super important because people start No matter what we're talking about, people start urgitating their own narrative. And it's like, no, no, hold on. I could be wrong and let's fact check him.aybe maybe I'm wrong or Maybe I'm not wrong. So he was living with his primary residence. It says was his parents' single family home. Did he have his own apartment He had a separate apartment It said he didn't, but it's his primary residence. mean But it says not in his own separate apartment. Does that mean he didn't have a separate apartment? Oh, I see. I see, so I gave you that response The house and surrounding streets were searched and cordoned off by federal agents and bomb squads after the assassination attempt And investigators reported finding bomb making materials there. Oh boy. So in case it didn't work out with the gun you had a bomb. Did he think he was gonna to make it off the roof? I wonder what he thought I to shoot the president just jump away No one's going to notice Like they got snipers all over the place They took that guy out the moment he shot him I wonder if someone talked him into doing it convinced him that they had a way to get him out of there.. see, that's the scary thing Yeah the the mind control like like You know, especially if they're giving him drugs. That's my point about the toxicology examination. So A lot of people were very concerned that they cremated him right away. because if you got a hold of the toxicology examination and you found out that there were some drugs in there that they give people to influence them like maybe maybe had LSD in a system.be something else in some other psychiatric medications in your system that you would say, well, why was he given this You know, Is this something that we've done when we're working on mind control experiments? Have we given people these things? Yeah Are we still doing that There was also metadata that connected a phone from DC to his house, from like Virginia, outside the FBI area, where where the FBI offices are, back and forth to this guy's house multiple times Metadata from a phone. I can't say who's phone. Who knows?? Probably nothing. or don't they know? I mean There's also in a B black Rck commercial. If you want to find out whose phone that is They like people could find a h phot imagine. Right. Yeah, it's all weird It's not, I mean probablybably a lot of people before the election that wanted Trump dead Fill in the blank who you think it might be Most likely somebody got a kid to try to do it And he didn't pull it off But he came close. Scary man. And then there's the real dummies who think it's staged. Which is so crazy. Oh I've heard that. I was hearing that let him nick his ear with a. I'm like what? Do you know how dumb that sounds? You have no idea about shooting things at distance. There's no way it's performative. so There's not a fucking chance in hell that you can nick someone's ear with a bullet at that distance and be that accurate. You can easily blow half their fucking head off You know? And and like what? like they're going to take that risk to put in that performative and what happens if they kill the people behind them. Yeah because could someone get shot, right? One guy died. att least one person died, another guy got shot really badly. and two other people, I think are suing now. They're suing the government for negligence becausecause of that shooting Yeah, because they're permanently injured because they got shot And the whole the fucking, the whole thing where the lady who was the head of the Secret Serice was saying that they couldn't put anybody on that roof because the slope was too steep. What And that didn't even make sense because the slope of the building where the snipers were on was steeper Made no sense So it's almost like it was set up. so that that kid could get up on that roof and take a shot I mean, look, it seems like the pers at B pourn some strings That's all I'm saying. Always. You know what I mean? That Pone strings. If you're not playing by their rules, they're not kissing the ring Hollywood was the same way You know what I mean? Hollywood is like there's a lot of that bullshit. There's a lot of that bullsh. A lot of that like kiss the rang and things you're like Nah, I ain't gonna do that You know, Nang, you know,' like nah Yeah you let, you know, it's like like you said, how bad do you want to be Batman ad you want to be that man? If it cost me my soul, maybe Mbe I'm good Well, good for you, dude. Good for you. You've achieved a nice balance in your life and work relationship. and I think that's very important. You know, and like I always tell people like He's like the normalest guy. He like the normalest guy that's a movie star. that I know like every time I like I've introduced you to people, they're like, who is he? That'scott Eastwood. L like, what puts on It's like like should he's so normal There's lot of normal people though there's some great ones. Oh, yeah, you know, They exist. some great ones, but they're a few and far between. Dude, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are fucking super normal. Yeah. They're like regular guys when you talk to them. They' they manage to keep their As hard as it is. Yeah. Keep whoever it is that's them, they they're still that. Yeah. So kudos to them. kudos to you And thanks for these vitamins. Yeah time. I'm going gonna take them ll tell what's Tell me what's up They sock tell you that too. I'm sure they're I'm. North performance. That's what it's called. There I go, baby. And your movie time Luck St strike. strike out tomorrow outut tomorrow. Beautiful. It's perfect time in two hundred fifty years. Celebrate the ye our veterans. Yes. Yes Good luck with that. Thank you. Congratulations. on every.. All right. G every ready This episode is brought to you by the farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? 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