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Joe Rogan, Experience. Tin my day, Joe Rogie podcast by night. All day What's on? What's happening? Chaos, I love it. Everything. Yeah. The world's crazy. center of the storm. I think the world's back at war today again, like officially. rightight I don't think that agreement with Iran lasted at all I think there was bombings today in Lebanon And I think there's bombings today in American bases I try to not pay attention, dude. I really do. I try to distract myself with science stuff and space I was watching this documentary yesterday on how they make chips, like how they make like semiconductor chips Dude This fucking machine that they use. I'm going to send you this, Jame, because it's bananas. It's like one of the most complex machines in the world. and this machine they used to make semiconductors, make chips. and they were explaining process of making these chips, how fucking nuts it is, man The amount of atoms that are stacked on and like the way they do it to make these like super complex high end chips There's people out there, Tony, that are doing things way different than us Okay? We are out there talking about sucking dicks and People shitting themselves. And what's going on in other parts of the world is people are doing science fiction Like they they're actually doing science fiction. H I like to save things. here it is The world's most important machine Yes. D you find it? Yeah, but just go to the there's some animation where they show how they make these things It was right where you were at Okay. Oh okay, so they're just showing some of the the different aspects of how these things are made G back to where that guy had the laser beam. That's perfect actually where that guy had the laser beam. So this is him explaining this. So look at this Back it up a little bit and give me some volume. Can you back it up a little bit, please? I want to introduce it to you with a thoughtought experiment Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an end. And you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt through metal like butter Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin, roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot out in front of you around two hundred and fifty kilometers per hour. And your task is to hit this not once, not twice, but three times in a row in twenty microseconds with your little laser Well, that is exactly what this machine does. It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row, eating each one up to over two hundred twenty thousand Kelvin. That's roughly forty times hotter than the surface of the sun. And it doesn't just hit one drop It hits fifty thousand droplets every single second. How often do you miss a laser shot Maybe don't miss them. What? You do one hundred fifty thousand laser shots a second then you don't miss one Exactly The same machine also contains mirrors that might just be the smoothest objects in the universe. If you scale one up to the size of the Earth, then the largest bump would be no thicker than a playing card. It is able to overlay one layer of a chip perfectly on top of another and never be off by more than five atoms. This is all happening while parts of the machine whip around at accelerations of over twenty Gs For thirty years, almost everyone thought that actually building this machine was impossible It exists. There is only one company in the world that can make it. So what is this company? And what is this impossible machine they've built? This video is That's it Wow Yeah. what are they doing with that? All computers, like computer chips that are getting better and better and better. All these AI chips, this is how they make up. One interesting thing I can just add I know When they make those, they make like a big sheet of chips, you know Like they'll be like thirty or fifty of them They'll test each one And the ones that are the best, like test are like one out of a hundred Oes that are like closest to one hundred become like the I nine chip. And if it's like eighty five out of one hundred, it becomes like the n seven ship. Oh they all come off the same sheet It like the best ones become the best chips to sell them for the most money The next's a little degraded. No kidding. interestnteresting So there was that issue with that Samsung chip factory and it was about they weren't getting the results that they wanted So it's probably they were getting more of the shitty chips that were not enough of the perfect chips. were really high end chips You could smoke. We have a fan in here, dude Um, Yeah, I mean Imagine if everybody died And it was just us in this room And there was like three late w be more than that. We'd have to have more people Owise we're going to fuck up the Jean pole. We're all going to look like the English royals We need we probably need a few thousand people A few thousand people, like regular people, like you and I that don't know shit about how these things work. Yeah. How much time would we need if we repopulated the eararth with what we know? Basically you're starting out like a fucking Like a halfast prepper You know, like someone who was on an episode of Lost You know, like one of those plane crash people trying to figure out how to survive out there. You're fucked. Oh yeah. You're not inventing that How long's gonna take infinity. And how many people have to pave the way? This is the thing for every one of these people that makes an invention like this. You're making this on the back of thousands and thousands and thousands of fucking super geniuses that have figured out each and every step of the way that can lead you to thinking Is this possible that we could do this next You know, they all build on each other So you need all these guys and Hopefully they don't get any pussy. othertherwise they're gonna get distracted. You know, I bet if one of them gets a hot wife, like one of their patents kicks and they start making bank and then all of a sudden he shows up for work in Ferrari. And next, you know, he's got a hot wife, everyverybody's like, o civilization just went back two hundred years. We're gonna to lose Tim Yeah. Tim Tim's taking outerle coding eighteen hours a day, trying to figure out how to get us to Mars Actually, that's a bad point because Elon clearly gets psy and doesn't seem to be affecting him at all. I think Elon's different. E to This episode is brought to you by Cate, the leading brand in creatine. 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You can hear why they're interested in their own words. Save time and meet great candidates sooner with Zip Recruiter. four out of five employers who post on Zip Recruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at ziprecruiter. com slash Rogan. That's ziprecruiterot com slash Rogan meet your match on Zip Recruiter. Definitely different. Yeah. I mean, some people are different, different, different It's fascinating how many people want to find flws in what he's doing inststead of just looking at this like, wow, this is an extraordinary time to be alive. But it's because of this narrative that people have One of them, the big one is this U.S. aid is killing people narrative. The people have died because of U.S. aid. Th then a bunch of people have given examples of how them cutting the funding has led to the end of certain people's lives like where they were in hospitals that didn't have any funding There's a lot that that you could point to say, right, if they had the money, they would have had the funding and they would have had that equipment in place or maybe they wouldn't have. But here's the other thing That's not. discounting the fact that a lot of that money is fraud A lot of it. Like it's not a little amount and the idea that you should let it go on because it's going to save lives and there's a bunch of people that are stealing money. Okay. I see that argument. Why are we sending them money in the first place? Like what's did we do something to them? Do we owe them money? No. Okaykay, We're just being nice. Are you sure we're just being nice? Is there anybody profiting of us off of us being nice? Because usually just being nice for no reason and just giving tax money away for no reason. I don't think they do that. I don't think that's real. I used to think that was real. I used to think that charity was real And now I look at and I go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a giant scam that's wrapped up in virtue. It's wrapped up in a nice cozy blanket of being kind and compassionate and virtuous and doing good things for people all around the world. I think a lot of people get involved in those things because that's what they think We're going do good things around the world the good people. I really believe that. And then they find out how it really works. And then they get stuck in that system and then they're making their way up there you know, air quotess corporate ladder to the point where some of them are making a million dollars a year. and you're like what is this? Yeah? What is this? This is a business. This isn't really charity. Most of the money is going to your employees and your overhead. and why do you have such a big building? You're like, what are you doing? How come you not just funneling the money to these people?act W like the LA Fire aid? Great example Spencer Pratt told me how many what number did he say of nonprofits got that money So over a hundred million dollars gets raised. I don't know the exact total All of it goes to these different nonprofits. I think he said two hundred different nonprofits the money And then what happens to that? Well, they just pay their employees. they pay overhead, they pay their rent on fucking nice office on wherever they live Fuck man. it's so disheartening because youve So that's what all that stuff is. And it's also if you listen to when Mike Benz has been on my podcast a few times and explains USAid People think of it as aid. you think of it as, o, we're helping the world, which is great, right? But it's not that. It's the aggency for International Development And it involves funding rap bands overseas that are the subversive rap bands that are supposed to excite people to take over the government. There' like a bunch of like weird shit funds rebels, It funds newspapers and What was he talking about like? There was a lot of it like funding rap music L this is crazy. People have Long said that rap music, even though listen You love hip hop. I know you just got back from Kanye West. I'm a huge hip hop fan. gott to talk about We definitely do. I love hip hop But there's some people that believe that gangster rap in particular When it came about in the nineteen eighties was a part of a Push popularize it and produce it was a part of the the government some faction of the government, some fact some intelligence agencies wanting to create more crime wanting to fill more private prisons wanting to erode the fabric of society so they could push for more laws to keep you safer This is like one of the most tin fooilily of tin fooil hck conspiracies. But people are pointing out that right now it is like one of the rare times where no rap music is on the charts And they're saying, well, how does this coincide with US aid Was USAid like actively promoting rap music? Was that one of the reasons why rap music was so popular Is that real? That can't be real. Maybe back in the day It seems like that would be more manipulative I don't see I believed that until I heard Mumble rap. and I'm like, this makes this is not real This is trying to make people stupid. Yeah. there's something about this. you know, And obviously some artists are better at it than. someome of them are fun the way they do it But I'm saying there's a giant of them that are inaudible You know what what they're like who's who's into this? Oh, almost all of them are in o Like what what's going on there? Imagine if like that was it was like peopleople heard Nas and like, this guy' too smart We got to dumb it down a little. We got to promote some people that can barely talk We' got to promote some people that are on cough syrup, apparently. Yeah. Have you ever done that cffs here? No. they seem to love it. Yeah. A lot of dudes who are into that Cff syrup, man, they swear by it. It's crazy It's gott to be fun. It's gott to be enjoyable. Is it codine? Is that what they're doing? I think so Have you done it, Jerry Bro, we talked about this before, but I remember U Back in the nineties, I got a hold of some Niquill The real Niquill Look, I guess they changed the formula for Nikewill And I had, you know, whatever, the flu or something. and I took some nike when I was laying in bed and I was like, this It was wonderful. Like just the warmth, the softness of the pillows and the warmth of the bed with the covers over me like, o And I remember thinking, ooh, this is dangerous. Oh ye. Like this is a dangerous feeling because if your life was shit And you found that, like that's better than anything else that's happening in your life. you can get it at CVS. crazy. Who was in the old Nikequell? before they switched it I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm afraid of medicine. So this stuff probably was like sitting in my house if I took it. So it might have even been older than ninety seven or ninety eight whenever this was and I was sick But I'll never forget it Bea then I never get like getting scared I could love this. I could just drink this during the day and just like sit on my back porch. day off obliterated with Nyquil and just enjoy the universe. I told you about that time I took a half of the pain pill that the dentist gave me for my wisdom tooth. I was like, o, fuck, this is life changing. It says the earliest Nyquil formula include Ephidrine which is a decongestant C M Dcs. Docsyilamine Susinate which is an antihestamine, acetaminophen Dxtro method metethorphan, cough suppressant and about twenty five percent alcohol. I was getting drunk too Wowow Um What changed the mid two thousands after the combat methamphetamine there it is They removed pseudophiderine. So was that the stuff? So it wasn't coding But is there an I think there is Niquot with coding though, right? What I had was Pretty good I think it was as simple. Yeah, you had the stuff they could make meth out of or whatever Yeah. Okaykay, we'll put it in perplexity And perplexity says In the mid two Yeah, Niquil brands sold in the US do not contain codine and there' never been a standard VX Nquill with codine and its's active ingredient lineup. tyypical nightw will form. So cating So does any cough syrup have cating in it They add it. Or is it just prescription cffs here? That was the whole thing about it Maybe I am fucking up my memory and maybe it wasn't Niquil. becauseuse whatever it was it seemed like I got fucked up off Nikewolf but you to drink like the whole btle you get Niwolf. I definitely didn't drink the whole bottle. I know I took a dose likeike a strong dose. That mean you're just getting fucked up off twenty five percent alcohol and a little bit of maybe little bit See the thing is it's so long ago, I can't remember. I say NC will because it's like saying Q tips, you know, or KleenX just because it's tissues or ear swabs. I don't know if it was nicold, but it was cough syrup, whatever the fuck it was. and I felt wonderful And I remember thinking, like this could be a real problem Like that one dayame big I'm always scared of stuff like that. I'm always scared of get I knew too many people when I was growing up that got hooked on stuff and they' just derail their life So ling in bed was like, o, you can't do this again No more this right I like it. Yeah ye I got a knee surgery once they gave me morphine They more feed in a drip And they say that you can only hit that button so many times it stops giving to you. But every time you feel pain, you just hit the button because I was on like a perpetual motion machine. So my wife's going And I'm just bang bang, bang, bang. This episode is brought to you by Zip Recruiter. 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The closest I come to that because I've never had like a serious surgery or anything, but I go to this they have a dental office here in Austin called the Austin Dental Sa. whole thing is like luxurious dental experience and they will hook you up to laughing gas and they let you like if they're like they're like you want a little more And I'm like, Okaykay, yeah. And that's like the closest I get to it. is once every six months or so I go there and dude, I'm always excited about this fucking experience. It is so awesome. Do you ever come up with bits after doing laughing gas? give me any idea? No, But during the thing, it makes me weirdly honest. Do ever seen and kill Bill when he shoots her in the knee with the honest gun because he was a chemist for like a living is like a secret job. So he comes up with this truth serum. and I've noticed that it makes me like weirdly very honest. So one time when I was in the dental office, the guy's doing whatever And I'm like I'm jacked on laughing gas ' it's not you're not really like cracking up. You're just like in heaven and you're like it's kind of smiling ear to ear And I remember going like, how long did you go to school for dental school? he's like, whatever the answer is like eight years. And I'm like, didid you ever think about going longer and becoming a real doctor? And I realized like kind of in the moment, even though I was fucked up, like that sounds mean But I think they're totally used to it. I think they know that laughing gas makes people fuck. I bet they're not used to that, dude. That's so me.'s not supposed That's what I'm saying is it's like a dangerous real doct A dangerous truth serum. Some people want to be dentists. We need them too You know, crazy gig Yeah It's a weird one. I know I much us bad breathday smell.. And just weird things lodged in teeth for God only knows how long. When I got my root canal, one of the reasons why I had to get it is because I had a cap on my tooth or a filler or whatever it is What's it called No, the when they just fill your tooth up Why cant rem fill? Fillings? Why don' I say filler? whatever? Yeah. It was old school one, you know, it was like white plastic. And when I was a kid, I used to have them, they were like fucking lead. They used to give you lead fillings, which is crazy. L kids had lead in their mouth Um And it was hurting. It was bothering me. So what had happened was crack the tooth and it had gotten infected underneath the filling. So he takes the filling out and drills into it and the smell came out of my mouth. It was it was pus. All this pus came out and this fucking horrific smell I was like, oh my Godd, is that coming out of my mouth? He's like, o, that's normal. It's decay. Right There's an infection under here. We're going treat it. You're going to be fine. Yeah, piece of elk from seven years ago. It is a long time ago. This is a long time ago, it was before I was hunting, I think But it was you know, people die from that stuff, which is really crazy. Like if you don't take care of your teeth and you get that kind of infection Those kind of infections can become septic Yeah, well, it's nuts. Sometimes I'll do a thing where I'll water floss after I brush my teeth just to see what would have been left in there if I just did what normal humans do. 'cause' a bunch of those high pressure water flossers that I fucking love, complete game changer for life. And it's insane. what will jet out of there. We gets stuck deep in between the teeth and everything. and You know, I think you're I would for the most part, I do it before I brush, but every once in a while I'll be like I wonder if there's anything left in there Yeah, you have to flaoss. Yeah. You're going to get a bunch of shit stuck in there And even then, sometimes I'll regular floss and then brush my teeth and just out of curiosity go, I wonder if there's anything left in there and I'll do a one silver with a water flosser and you see like, dink, dink, dink, three little things come out. It's like that would have marinated in between my teeth or in the back of my gum line or whatever. Yeah, that's not good, but according to my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar He thinks if you go back and you look at like when people started developing serious cavities It's people have always had abscesses and broken teeth and there's always been like dental problems that haunted people becausecause back in the day, man, they just pull the tooth out and then who knows what kind of infection you still have in there and they don't treat it. In the seventeen hundreds, if you broke your tooth and got an infection, you could be fucking dead You know, you could die from that shit But he was saying that the amount of cavities like steeply increased when people started putting sugar and everything. And then kids started drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary candy and that stuff gets stuck in your teeth. He's like, I think that's the cause of it Probably high fructose corn syrup, probably just as bad or if not worse than actual sugar. That stuff's not good for your body, that's for sure. Your body doesn't like it. Someone explained to me what's the difference in the absorption of high fructose corn syrup versus natural cane sugar. I completely forget how they explained it, but they were they were basically saying that there's some issues with how the body breaks it down Well when you drink a soda, just think about that. Wh in nature Do you get twenty grams of sugar? just in liquid form? And you just pump it down glug, glug, glg, glug,ug. freshing, crazy. My buddy that I went to school with just flew in from Hawaii, which is where he's lived for like twenty years.'s like he's like a wilderness guy climbs trees and cuts down his own pineapples and coconuts and stuff all the time. He's got a great life And he he checked a bag this trip just a few days ago and he brought it to the motherership because that's where we met up and he surprised me with this checked bag that was like that had the moldings built in and everything and had four coconuts and two white Hawaiian pineapples, I think they're called, which like run like sixty five dollars each or something in the US. likeike it's impossible to get And according to him, I don't know. He's a real hippie dippy type. Is that the dude that you brought to the mother Yeah. Yeah Anthony. Yeah. Your friend from high school. Yeahep, which is crazy. Yeah he's the man. He's just a real dude. That's crazy when you know people. And so this dude is just liiv in Hawai, li best life. And I mean, holy shit, these fucking pineapple. He's like, dude, you're going to love this pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. He just kept going on about it. I'm like, all right, okay. Sure enough, holy fucking shit, man. it's nature can deliver you a sugar dose. ' he was saying that white Hawaiian pineapples have higher sugar but much lower acidity than when we're used to. so it makes a whole different and since obviously it's natural sugar in this and that, it just makes a whole different type of fucking fruit Crazy. Wild how we have to go other places to get unbelievable shit? Well, of course, Hawaii. Yeah. Hawaii really should be its own country Yeah listen, I love Hawaii. I'm glad they're protected by the United States. People are cool as fuck. It should be its own country. It's five hours by plane. I mean comeome on, man.. White pineapples. primarily known as sugar loaf or white jade pineapples Highly prized, rare variety grown in Hawaii unlike standard yellow, they feature creamy white flesh, particularly practically no acidity and a complex completely edible core. It was great And fucking he climbs a goddamn tree Like a little fucking monkey boy, normal little white dude. How did he boind up in Hawaii U he's a real free spirit. He always was. I think he just went out there, visited and stayed. He's the kind of guy that just gets a one way ticket places and figures it out as he goes. He's in Youngstown right now. That shows you how adventurous and crazy he is. He's like, I'm going to spend a week and a half there. I'm like a week and a half in Youngstown. Why's he doing that Is it family and friends you sound? Is there a good hotel to stay at? Y. And I even had to look this up recently because I'm like, I'm not staying at the crazy hotel that I stayed at last time I was there So I'm like, best hotel in Youngstown. And the funniest thing is the actual closest option was in Pennsylvania, like fifty minutes away trial. I mean, there's one like double tree downtown, but it's an area of Absolute chaos. just Death wish. Do you ever go back there and go, I can't believe I grew up here? Always, one hundred percent of the time I got a feeling for it immediately when I went to LA and I didn't hear police sirens anymore as often at least, you know what I mean? This isn' that funny? like LA with LA's crime I always thought. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be crazy. I've heard these two pc songs, like this is gonna to be nuts And it was it was USA. so peaceful. Yeah, exactly So peaceful. In Youngstown, at least when I was growing up there, you could hear a police siren or an ambulance siren almost at any point of the day. My buddy sent me a shirt recently too. another one buddy u has the stats on it of us being the murder capital. I think it was ninety, ninety one and ninety six per capita Not the biggest population per capita It was the most dangerous place you could be. When I was in those most developmental years when a kid shouldn't be having his head next to the window. Yeah, there it is. I got that shirt. Wow. Four time defending champion, Murder Cital of America And zero one zero two, that puts me as a sophomore and junior in high school. And ninety five, ninety seven, I'm eleven, twelve. And you're being raised by your mom? Yeah. onn the north on the craziest. fucking area of the whole goddamn thing, the most dilapidated part of the north side of Youngstown belieelieve it Like every part of my fucking story, I'm like, this is so goddamn weird. So weird. It is when you think about it, right When you really stop and think about it doesn't seem real. sixixty years ago, this Ohio city was named Crimeetown USA Crime town. bombings. Y. Oh this is the mob days. Yeah. So it used to be a mob run town, right? T They were called bombtown. Yeah, it was a Youngstown tune up is a car bomb Look at this seventy five bombings eleven killings in a decade, and no one seems to care They were so nuts in Youngstown that somebody tried to kill the actual prosecutor, the actual DA Isn't that normal? Dough they always try to do that? Wow It's kind of the stupidest craziest thing you could do because then the entire FBI comes down on you It's a little short sighted to go. We're going to kill the main cop of the city. and not think that anything's going to happen from that. Well, we beat the game, we beat the main cop. Imagine trying to be an intelligent businessman and also a mob leader Imagine like playing things out in advance but also you're a mob leader. lot of that going on and I got to see quite a bit of it. Like there were Let's put it this way. mall developers in Youngstown and things like that. And I got to see firsthand very young. that they were communicating with politicians at lunch time and stuff because I was working at this little Italian restaurant at the time, right out of high school And u And having they were having these quiet meetups in a quiet in the corner of a quiet Italian restaurant. and you would see these huge moguls You know, I won't name any names, but big business people in Youngstown meeting with the local this and that and congressmen. I got to meet that congressman and that congressman because they're there meeting with these super duper rich people and I'm like, wonder what the correlation is there. Bro. Back then, when there was no cell phones, ye And, you know, they had to bug people. they have they had to literally bug businesses to get information. Like they were all doing something. Oh yeah. You couldn't be involved. in any big time business. if you weren't down with the teamsters, if you weren't down with the longshoremen. you had to you had to Gotta work this out, Bobby Businessman That's how you do did to business. Give a little money to their campaign, notot a little, but a bit And then you can get your stuff passed and make life easier down the road. Dude, I had friends that had no show jobs Wow. Yeah. I had a friend of mine that had a no show job in New York at the Javit Center You know, the Javit center is like a big convention center He had a union no show job So he's a mob guy. Yeah. and they They just gave him money. I only get a free check on the sopranos. They had thoseess real. No show construction jobs. They're sitting there with their portable fans Yeah, no, that's real, dude That is a real thing There's they get a certain amount of jobs L they would make agreements. like the union would make an agreement You get a certain amount of these jobs iss like You know There's really a hundred jobs, but we want one hundred and thirty Youngstown was a haven for organized crime, related corruption, was ingrained into the fabric of its society. A two thousand publication, New Republic listed, a chief of police, the outgoing prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, members of the local police force, a city law director, several defense attorneys, politicians, judges, and a former assistant U.S attorney as controlled by the mob So if they have that, if they found that for sure, imagine how many others there are. Right. That's everybody. That'sbody everybody prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, the police force, city law director, defense attorney. Iagine not being down with the mob like do you want to stay alive? Like do you want to work in this place Right. And this is the city. I think we looked it up the other day actually. I think it only has twenty five thousand white people. So knowing that bllack people tend to not be in the Italian mob It's just going off of twenty five thousand And that's cururrent. I don't know what it was back in the day, but the point is is like it's not a big city It's not. I think fifty sixty thousand half or less white So there's Tony. Yeah. There's little Tony watching pro wrestling. Oh yeah. Pro wrestling. And even then I was obsessed with good feellas and a Bronx tale and a godfather because it's like it's just what you're taught is humanity. like That's life. Yeah So getting out of that and going to LA and thinking it was going to be, o,, it's going to be crazy gangs and stuff. and it's just quiet Granted, I started in Burbank, which is a fucking television studio, essentially When I moved to New Jersey and I didn't have any money, when I first moved to New York, I couldn't afford to live in New York City. O I didn't even have an apartment. I stayed with my grandparents because my grandfather lived in New Jersey in Newark And he bought a house there in I think it was like the nineteen forties And they did a thing called blockbusting. Do you know what blockbusting is? They would go door to door and they would say, Black people are moving to the neighborhood. you got to sell now. and everybody sold. It was used to be an entirely Italian neighborhood And he was like, I like black people get the fuck out of here. And he kept his house, but it was like one of very few families that stayed. And then B black people moved out and then they started getting like different people Spanish speaking people, like Dominicans and a bunch of other. and that's how it was when I stayed with them So this is like, U ninety one? Yeah. I was three years in the comedy. so it's probably ninety one And while I was living with them, the next door neighbor's house got broken into by the cops. The DEA smashed down his door. dude had an audi parked in the driveway I was selling crack, like right next door to my grandpa The whole neighborhood is dude Like he would get really nervous when I would leave Like I would leave to go play pool somewhere and'd be like be careful.ike it was fucking sc E G ye But it didn't used to be. Like when he first moved there, it was was just an all Italian neighborhood Real Eestate people even back like what a dirty thing to do scare people into moving That's probably the first project of US aid. That's probably the first Yeah. Yeah They probably got real estate people to destroy neighborhoods There's something to it. I don't know the correlation of Italian neighborhoods being taken over, not taken over, but whatever by black people, like mob run cities like Youngstown, like Chicago, like Detroit. Um It's an interesting anomaly. I wonder if there's any correlation between the things. Well, you know wishing you could be there live for the big game, soaking up the atmosphere in the crowd Too often, life gets busy, or the price hold you back Priceeline is here to help you make it happen With millions of deals on flights, hotels, and rental cars, you can go see the game live D just dream about the trip? book it with prriceline. Download the prriceline app or visit priceline. comot Actual prices may vary, limited time offer Uncovered windows can make your home feel up to twenty degrees hotter. Stay cool, and save up to fifty percent off custom window treatments during the fourourth of July mega saale at blinds dot com From outdoor shades to room darkening blinds, finding the perfect fit is easy. Get free samples, expert design help, and professional measure and install services, or DIY with confidence and support every step of the way shop up to fifty percent off sitewide, plus huge savings on doorbusters right now during the fourth of July megale at blinds d. com Mostly the Italians that came in the early twenteth century, we were very poor. You know, they were all coming over here for labor jobs and things along those lines And um, you know, when they started doing better They you know, they started moving out and moving into the suburbs and moving into, you know more gentrified areas. It's always what are the new immigrants that are going to come and take over this area that was like formerly a low income Italian neighborhood or a low income Irish neighborhood? It's the same thing. like there's cycles, you know It's like this cycles in fighting too. Like in the early twentieth century, there's a lot of Jewish fighters Like slappy Maxi Rosenblum. you never heard of him, right? Yeah some very good Jewish fighters because they were poor And they were the new immigrants, you know, And this is like before World War two And then in and even afterwards, there was some Then you get Italians. you get a lot of Italians got Rocky Marciiano, Rocky Graziano, there's a lot of like Jake Lamada. There's a lot of these like Italian bad motherfuckers because they were poor. Yeah. And then what happened then you got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of, you know, it's always like who's the new immigrants Right And who are the most hungry come for the most Poverty ridden areas, like Roberto Duran came from a terrible part of Panama, like notot terrible, but I mean, like very poor, very violent was one of theadest the fuck Bboo man seen. He was right down the street Yeah I mean Youngstown's known for boxing. ye. Kelly Pablick, who's been on the podcast. He's awesome He was a beast dude. Oh man That fight with him, Jermaine Taylor h Sometimes I still rewatch the end of that. How did he survive? Give me a burst of energy I mean, how did he make it through That was a crazy. I mean, he got dropped. He looked it looks like the fight was over. And then when he's got him in the corner and he rocks him and I go no way. Yeah. He's coming back. This is crazy. Crazy. This didid you watch the fights this weekend? Jeron Boots Enis? and I forgget the dude was fighting? No, I was at that concert. I missed it Boots is very good and for the most part, he beat his ass, but the third round, he got rocked third round was incredible because the kid he was fighting. Who's the gentman that he was fighting, James Zias Yeah young kid. He got dropped in the second round, like pretty bad. Boots is very good. He's like one of the best boxers alive And then the third round, the kid came back and rocked boots and it was just a war. J the third round was incredible Bots w up stopping him. I think he stopped him in like The seventh or the eighth round He just dropped him one last time and the cororner called, it was enough, like he was getting his ass kick was very, very valiant, you know, It was a really good fight. Like Boots is better than him like clearly' like he's on another level But this kid showed just tremendous heart, but it's like That third round was just comoming back from getting dropped in the second. like those kind of moments where a guysy getting fucked up like like the gate Dorifyight Perfect example. Yeah, right That's when it's really a fight. a real fight. Yeah because Toporo was on him in that second round. Oh man. We were so close. They were in they were could hear they Oh you could really you could feel it where I was, man. and you know, obviously we're always close to the cage on those things when Tapuria was landing those body shots It was right against our side of the fence and I'm literally like, o my I mean holy fucking shit man And I've seen a lot of people get ripped to the body before, but there's something about his close range strength in near that clinch, that close up, fucking range Aelia that is scary. He's so good, dude He's so good and he's so precise. He just tried to likeail I always repeat this because Chail Son had said it was perfect. If you try to win by knockout and fail You won't win a decision And sometimes you just run out of gas because like you're not supposed to fight like that if you think that the fight's going to go five rounds. Like Ilia had him hurt and he's like, I can take him out Justin's so adurable man He's so durable. and Le hook to the body, the sound of it man is just whip. It's so perfect. He throws perfect punches. his punches are just I mean even Justin said it in the post fight interview like when he's fresh, his skills are unmatched Like that's a crazy thing to say to a guy you just beat up and made stop have in the fourth round That's crazy to say like his skills are unmatched, but they really are Oh at every point of that. I'm at every point of that, anybody I think that knows anything about those two fighters is going until this is stopped Anybody can win this. E when his face was blown up and his eyes looked black and closed Until that Air horn rings. I'm like anything One punch and we've seen it even with Getci, you saw it with Holloway, right? Was it him? Who did he square up with in the middle Yeah away. ye. Y.utes l hit him with that final punch. One chin, one with one second left Yeah. it can all be over. Yeah, that was a little different in that Hollllowway caught him with a jump spinning back hick to the face in the very last seconds of the first round and broke the bone of his nose We talked about it on the podcast. and I was like, that changed that fight because before that, Gatese was pressing him and it looked very competitive and it looked like maybe Gaatese had a slight advantage That's ' Max Max's very clever. It's very clever. was always switching stances and moving and you know, really hadn't showed that spinning back kick a lot. That hadn't been a feature in a lot of his fights. He did it a few times, but For him to land it that way backing up, jump to the face. I mean, it was Perfect and his nose was fucked. And if you're fighting with a broken like a broken bone on your face, every time you're getting hit, you're getting just blasted You're the pain is insane And then, you know, he had you know He was a step behind Max. Max is teing off on him. He landed some good shots though Even though it was a good fight. I mean, Max was definitely ahead in the fifth round It was a good fight. and then you know, during that wild exchange, she should have never done that. Yeah, he was already fading whereas Max was still very fresh Fucking crazy fight man That was a crazy fight. I think Topuria's nose was broken and two, I think, it was pretty early on And hard to say. Yeah, you know, but Justin did clip him with a bunch of those uppercuts. So Justin does this thing where he like collar ties you and then throws an upper cut in tight and he's really good at it. He's really good at like turning you a little and then throwing an upper cut in these exchanges. He collar ties an uppercuts. He caught him a few times and you just get one of those on the fucking nose on the old Snaz hle This thing's so brittle. Yeah. It's such a if you feel your nose, just feel it Have you ever seen morobss? The X ray of Marab's nose. You' never seen it I seent it to you, Jamie Jam you will find it It's Crazy Look at what it looks like, Oh my God. Look at that Oh fuck The row. That thing is destroyed I mean, it's destroyed. He's getting zero air out of that. He's got the best cardio on planet Earth and he's getting zero air out of his nose But he won' get it fixed Becauseuse if he gets it fixed, he can't fight for like a year. And he just wants to keep on trucking If I was this friend, I would say, dude, you got a lot of money. You're a world champion Fix the nose Let's fix it. let's take a year off, come back and fuck these motherfuckers up. because if that guy's got a fixed nose, he's got ten percent more cardio. Are you crazy? Yeah That guy with ten percent more cardio, That's an extra weapon I would get it fixed. But the problem is if he gets it fixed and then like he fights a guy like Halloween, he gets jumped and spinning back kicked to the nose in the first round and shattered is again, then he's kind of fucked Because if they have to fix it again, then they might have to start taking pieces of your rib out and reconstructing your nose and grafting bone and doing weird shit. And then sometimes that shit doesn't take and sometimes it gets infected. And then you have a bone infection on your face And why do they do that? And then they have to remove your nose? Is that what they have to do? God Scary shit, man. Very much so. It fucking dudes, man, that is a crazy job to risk your life, risk your health, risk your bones. You're making a living by trying to damage another person who's trying to damage you. But it's also why it's the most exciting shit in the world to watch. Exactly. So exciting Even boxing as, you know tamed in comparison to MMA because there's less weapons and less options and Youor padding. Yeah. You don't get the chokeouts, the crazy chokeouts. There was a crazy chokeout this weekend U His name is Ruzab Boyev and he fought I say he's last I fought this Russian cat and got a Russian or Ukrainian I forget, But he got him in a rear naked choke and put him to sleep. And it was one of those ones where the guy looks dead. He's like lying there. I mean, it was a fucking nasty choke, man And yeah, like it's looking Oh, yeah saw that is dark dude another meme out this week along with the WMoolself point this nameame Bros nuts. The memes on these things are nuts nowadays Oh the internet is undefeated. Oh, it's crazy. They're so good at mes. There's so many people out there working jobs that they hate that are smart and funny Yep. We were talking about it the other day, but you youve have you caught up with any of those WMBA? What's their name? The girl that's pointing at Soophie Cunningham. Yeah. Yeah. I've been paying it you put that thing in the middle Yesh tray in the m I've been paying attention very little, but one of the things that I did watch is All the fouls. L these bitches throw each other to the ground. and they poke each other in the eyes Like they do this, they literally jab each other in the eyes. It's crazy. like they they foul and also they travel so much. Oh, it's crazy. They take like four or five steps and then no one calls them on it. Oh yeah Double durable Is there a trend now to not call traveling Yes, without a doubt in the actual NBA, it's a thing to There's it's hard to get into this without going way into like the weeds, but The NBA has a technically different rule than college and like high school and everyone else where there's they call it a gather step. And they definitely would call it in high school But they work all day manipulating it with the referee watching them saying like, you can do that, but you can't do that You can do this, but you can't do that. And so like they've got it to a place where Everything they're doing looks like traveling andble double dribbles, but guys will break it down in slowe and you'll be like, well, technically it's not Be weird. I always thought if you took a step, you had to balounce the ball. Yeah That's how it should be. You're allowed to. Itesn't seem like that should be how it is. When you see guys taking four steps, like, what's going on? Whatould do you wantan to see exciting basketball or not Yeah I do. All right, well then just let the referees call the game how they call it. But I think there's something exciting about you having to bounce that ball because you won't be able to score as much Right Like if you have to bounce it every two steps, whatever it is. I wish I loved the NBA like I did when I was a kid and fucking Barley and Jordan and Ewing and all these people were physical. It is just a whole different game now So back then was it traveling? Like when the Lry Bird days? Hell yeah. Unless Jordan talked to the ref and said, yo, you're wrong. Let me do what I want. Jordan had the cheat code where he would leap from the fucking free throw line. That is when I've watched videos of it, it doesn't even look real. He was such an amazing athlete. He was so good and so possessed byy his desire to win. He would do things that you would just go, how does a person fly Imagine if he was like a like one of those jumpers, those long distance jumpers, hed probably have an insane jump Because he's going from the free throw line in the air. That's crazy. Everything he did was crazy The way he did things, the way he practiced everything Yeah And did he not make his college team High school team Wasn't there like one year when he was a freshman, he didn't make the varsity team? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's most freshmen don't Perfect. may have changed basketball history forever Most freshmen,ough that doesn't make sense because they're not even developed yet Yeah, that's I know kids in Texas that keep their kids back a year They want their kid to be bigger I want Billy to be the biggest freshman. I want him to be a fifteen year old freshman. We're pushing for right before his fifteenth, birteenth like. Hey, fifteen's a sophomore Bhilly's a fucking cheater. Why are you standing backaging Billy? Yeah It doesn't bother me nearly as much in a sport like football where I see what you're doing, like you're preparing a kid for a professional future perhaps, especially in Texas. They're very into it down here But if it's a wrestling, was like, hey Hey, there's fucking no money in this. And that kid's sixteen and he's in the ninth grade. L It's nuts How is How old is the oldest that a kid can be and compete in high school sports Jamie, please put that into our sponsor Pplexity. Let's find out I wonder if it varies by sport Mm, interesteresting Do they all have a cap at eighteen Or do they allow you to but it's going compete at nineteen? Yeah, there's gonna be before I even headit enter, I know it's going to say something about like your graduating class can't be out maybe more than like two years or something like that because you got held back or you had an injury or something Boy, I remember from my days of being like seventeen and eighteen. The difference between seventeen and nineteen was huge. Oh yeah. It's a big difference. Fuck yeah. By the time you're nineteen, you're basically man strength You know, seventeen I was like a boy still Yeah. You know, like That was flimsy seventeen th I was like a flimsy kid. By the time I was nineteen, it's a different animal. You've got two more years of training and testosterone in you If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a huge advantage. Every advantage Every in wrestling is a huge advantage. Starting one year earlier is czge huge advantage nineteen bas off Oh, bro, that's so rude. Making nineteen year olds wrestle against like possibly fifteen year olds is crazy Right? So if you are like in a certain weight class that's not strong, like I wasn't a good wrestler. I was a pretty good wrestler, but I started I was on the varsity team at my high school. and Like one year I didn't even cut weight or one weight class I didn't cut. was There was a guy that was below me at like one hundred twenty six or one hundred twenty eight and he was better than me. And so the next available weight class was one hundred thirty four, which is that's what I normally weighed when I was fifteen So I just wrestled at one hundred and thirty four. That's lovely. I could have been in there with a nineteen year old fucking animal who weighs a buck sixty and dries himself out braefly to hit one hundred and thirty four And there was guys like that, man. You would see them at like the states. And you go what the fuck? Yeah. And they were going to camps. So they were wrestling three hundred sixty five days a year All year long. Oh yeah. I just started. I didn't know anything. Same. I started as a freshman in high school and got fucked up. I didn't even start as a freshman. I started as a sophomore. I started as a sophomore because some kid kicked my ass in the locker room. some kid grabbed me in a headlock and threw me to the ground and didn't punch me. He could have punched me, decided not to, but I was so humiliated. I was like, Ohh my God, I need to learn how to wrestle And then I also wrestled in the park like in the grass with my friend Stehven and I thought I'd be able I was a good athlete. I was doing karate I was like, you can't take me me down instantly. I was like, o no, this is terrible. Yeah it's a whole different piece. It's also like how tired you get I remember thinking, I used to think that I had worked out before that because I'd you know, taken karate classes and done some type window, I thought it'd worked out You don't even know what working out is until you go through a wrestling practice. We're running stairs, What? What? We're carrying guys around the wrestling room. You pick up your partner, your training partner, you have the firemen carry them around the fucking room Jesus Christ, Then you're doing push upps and situps to puke and then you' doing live drills Fuck non stop Dude animals Yeah, we would rotate U, you know, there's all those different weight classes and just for shits and giggles, you know, one of the drills was, you know, escape from the next guy. R right beep, whistle blows escape. you're on bottom. You have to get out the next guy So sometimes at a one hundred three weight class, I would have Hugh Frost who was, I think two thirty five two, forty five to hundred fifty It's a resative. Oh yeah, just for one drill It's a fucking joke. It's a pancake. And he would probably he was probably showing mercy at the time, obviously, but not really because he doesn't want to he doesn't want to let this little fucking shithead one hundred three out from under him. So he's, you know, putting enough pressure to keep everybody there. Not to mention the one hundred and sixty five freak of nature made of muscle and the one hundred and eighty five, you know, it was just a drill. but Of Reality hits hard. That's how you see the difference between fifteen and seventeen and all that. And someone who actually really knows how to wrestle. just wrestler' strength Like I always tell people, if you want to look at MMA, like what is the most important skill? the foundation is wrestling. The foundation. if you wanted your kid to be a badass fighter, like my kid really loves fighting, He thinks he wants to do it, but I want to prepare him right, which I do Teach them how to wrestle that kid into a really good wrestling program because if you have advanced wrestling, you look at how it shuts down so many fighters. Like look at what Hamzat did to Drek' duplicy. he just ragged Ald them. His wrestling is at such a high level and Trekus who was a world champion couldn't do shit to stop it He just dragged him to the ground anytime he wanted to. He got him in a crucifix like three times. Marab against O'Malley I mean Exactly, exactly. You werere watching a guy that does a no look right hand knockout punch into a salute, no look at his opponent Right I mean, it's just impossible. It appears impossible and every Khabib fight The thing I always think about first when I think about could be fighting is him being on top and having his feet under the other dude's feet, which is just that's it. It's the final level when you can't even begin the process of posturing out in any way. you are nothing. you are a tissue in an octagon with a man. And he's wailing on your face He's wailing on your face and he has your legs triangled underneath his legs. It's always funny when you FC or when casual UFC fans don't understand those little things like that that aren't even part of the fight. They're looking up here waiting to see if the punches are going to rain down Yeah But the positioning of his feet is what I'm always looking at and how scary it can be here He was not doing it rightll right here. That leg being thown is orcher. It's's notothing we can do. There's just nowhere to go. And all that weight on those hips, people don't realize I notice immediately if I ever see somebody that's kind of on top and their knees are on the ground, Like if you look his right knee isn't on the ground. It looks like it might be. It look like keeps slamming those left hands into Johnson's head. I mean, he got hit with like fifteen, twenty unanswered full force left hand blows ro He's horrible. He was horrible. So good. Kavee was so good. And he would do this to world class fighters, man. And by the way, Johnson clipped him in that fight too. It was one of the few times in his career where he got clipped Yeah, man, I looked really frustrated. What's that? Who's the one that looks super frustrated in that? Barbza? I'm just asking, I don't remember who it was. Barboza was one of them, but I mean, a lot of guys are fucking be look frustrated because there's not a damn thing they could do.. Barboza was like early in the first round. here had that thousand yard stare was like fuck Like I have to go through three rounds of this where they just give up on the idea that they can even win Like all you're doing is trying to survive He was a monster dude that. his leg being trapped is nuts. I L look how he's scooting with it. And he's just slamming punches and get up, he's just chasing you. got g right But if you get up, he chase you and drag you to the ground. so blew all that energy to get up. The moment you try to punch or throw a kick. he's on you. You're on your back again, punch to the face, punch to the face If wrestling's giant. It is the biggest skill. He haves to know how to do everything else too nowadays because all these kids that like you see in the contender series, these young guys coming up, man They're all so fucking talented He tried to wheel kick him And really more than anything, I feel like wrestling being out wrestled and being just trapped on the ground is so psychologically demoralizing. you've been training for a UFC fight and the crowd is out there and the lights are on you and you see the logos on the mat because you're facing it. Back that up a little bit. Let me show you something here too. What's interesting here before that, before the clinch So after he throws the wheel kick like Barbos is trying to win, right? This is the third round. He's trying to win and he throws this w but look now go before that When he throws the kick Here it is. So he throws the kick and misses. He's so tired now that when Kabib moves for him, he clinches. Look. He instigated the clinch Instead of pushing away instead of circling to his left He clinched because he's so tired, dude. He's so tired. And this dude just look at that face He just drags him down to the ground again just he twoo on one on that arm underneath them. leg being thrown in. He doesn't know what to do with his legs. He actually just put his foot above Kabit because it's so confusing All that weight on you You don't know where to even begin to start getting up. Well, he's the first thing he's got to do is get that left leg free and he's not gonna. Yeah for the Yeah rolling thing. He's a he was a monster. He was a monster. and retired undefeated And there's something to being on that mat, not being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking. And this is not how you picture this going. Not only that, this is with the current rules where I think There should be no standupss. I think the only time there should be a stand upp is when there's a foul. Yeah, I can completely agree with you. I hate it when they stand people out. Even if it's boring. I get it's boring, but the guy can't get up and this guy's holding him down. So he's winning.. He's winning. See. I know he's not doing enough What does that mean? He's bitiding his time. You've got to let a guy have strategy. likeike Muhammad Ali did ropad dope against George Foreman. Imagine if the refereees like, you've got to punch back. If you don't punch back, no, he's got a strategy. Strategy is let George Foreman burn himself out and then eventually tee off on him and that's what he did. Yeah. thinks that referees can let the crowd get in their head Well, it's the organization wants action too, the fans want action. A lot of people disagree with me. And I understand their point I understand their point, especially if you're casual, get k get 'em up, make 'em fight. You don't want to fight, you want to hug Right. So what So what this is the sport and that guy who's on top who's biding his time and recovering then decides, okay, now's the time. Let me start dropping some bombs Yeah because I've recovered He held the position and he recovered his energy and now he's winning. likeike let him fucking fight Get out of there. get out There shouldn't be stand upps. And I get it. The referee gets that cheer from the crowd You know, if feels rewarding. sometometimes when they stand fights up, I get excited. Yeah. I go Yeah yeah.. That But Striker has a chance. But my position is still the same. I don't think they should stand him up. I'm worse than that. I think they just start each round where they lost the last round. Oh I love So every round. whyy do you get to stand up? Why do you get that advantage the striker gets of standing up when you didn't earn it Get back down there. Crucifix. Iad you have to start the round up in a crucifix Yeah, that's how the Bown ended. they look at the big screen, get a freeze frame of the position, referee sets you in the exact position and says ready fight I love that Yet fuck off Yeah that's what the sport is supposed to be. and sometimes it's going to be boring. Yeah. That's real though. At least it's real because there's been a lot of fights where the guy got taken down in the first round starts out the second round and blasts the guy and knocks him out And it's like, okay, it's exciting to watch, but he didn't earn that position. He just got that position because the other guys survived the first round. And so it's like, it's one fight. It's not five fights. R So I think it should be one continuous fight with a one minute break in each round Yeah, that'd be like if the team losing automatically got the kickoff after halftime or something like that Yeah, and I guaranteed, if I was running the UFC, it wouldd probably go bankrupt. I'm not the right guy. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I'd be a terrible promoter be too honest about stuff, and I'd want to give people fights that maybe they weren't the most exciting fighters, but they were above the other person in the rankings. I think the ranking should be the whole reason why you make fights Samy Zayan won the Universal WWE Championship over this weekend at a big paper view I have no idea who that is, but I'm happy for him. Shocked Cody Rhodes. He was he was like a guaranteed win. Wonder what happened? Rolled them up real quick. Do you think maybe that was fixed? Well This is very entertaining ery entertaining. I'm sure it was. I just don't understand how you go back and forth. Oh, it's the best. I know you love it. Well Sometimes that's what I said about this White House card, by the way, is like, There's nothing that could have happened that they could have written if it was written that would have made it more exciting. R. it felt real the whole time and the fights that happened before made it feel like anything could happen in that main event. like It just felt raw and real, but also storyline which then when UFC is at its best like that It's like the WWE. That's what's interesting. Of course, It's not as, you know Well it's not script exactly. But it is it was a special moment You know, it was a Regardless of how you feel politically and I understand it If you' if you hate the Republicans and you hate the whole idea. I get it But just as a person who loves a sport, it was a very unusual experience, very unusual and just I think people have to just look at some things that way. You know, and some people have a really hard time separating themselves politically because they're going, oh no that White House puts on this thing. there's all this bad press because of the war. There's bad press because of this and that and They put on this thing at the White House and it's sort of like Maga washes everything. You know what I mean? Yeah makes everybody like them again, gives them positive press, which Undeniable Undeniable game positive press I mean, the amount of people that have seen it is nuts You know I think just on paramount It's something like thirty something million now And you know, they were telling me that they thought it was probably one hundred fifty million people had watched it in some form whichich was, you know, TikTok clips, Instagram, YouTube, but that is a nutty number, man I think Dana and Hunter, they were thinking it could get to like a billion people see it. whichich is just nuts. Yeah in some form, you know highlight reels, clips. I mean, just the gaity fight alone, just the highlight reels. How many people watch those on Instagram and TikTok and T The awareness of the event of the moment was so huge. It was like nothing else. Like it didn't feel like any other event we'd ever I was nervous before it started Yeah I could never get nervous for you OC. I get excited but I was like legitimately nervous It was like I was feeling like, little like this is crazy. L where're on the White House lawn? Nuts The flyover is when it really hits Yeah, but when they had all those jets together and they' so close to each other. Yeah like imagine if one of those fucking clips under their wing it spirals right into the ellipse. Yeah Yeah, crazy. What a spectacle. Yeah. They would have definitely canceled the fights. because think they canceled the White House correspondence dinner because of that assassination attemack. Damnit. You had a bunch of bangers on that, I heard. Yeah. so annoying I was more excited for that than like anything Howy did they just cancel it? Why didn't they reschedule it? Maybe they're gonna to wait until the ballroom's finished becauseuse that's the argument for the ballroom that they could have it at a place like that where it's completely secured Kur Maskter thinks the whole thing's fake Ohake fake assassination attempts? Yeah. Howd that I get in there? Yeah. how Well I think some people are just incompetent There's incompetence. There's bad security. There's people that don't do their job. alsoso. There's also people that you didn't expect to be a problem and were a problem and you're in a hotel Also the guy made it to the first level of the first scanning of security. It's not like he made it into the thing. But he did shoot somebody, right I think he shot one of the secret Svice agents in his bulletproof vest True, Jammie There were so many stories online. It's so hard to know What was true and what was not I think think I was a teacher L like a substitute teacher It's all nuts. And it's like man, you didn't think this out. I scheduled it for july twenty fourth Oh God The cororrespondence dinner? Wow. It's on this. I might want to polish up some of them bits. Yeah, Snd me some new stuff. Go back and tag some of them with some current events. Where are they going to have it If they have it at the same spot, that's not smart. A new event held july twenty fourth Is it the Pentagon They might wait they might wait to release that. Yeah, it's not saying. Oh Waldfer Excuse me, Waldorf Astoria. Oh, okay Well I guarantee they'll tighten that bitch up a little bit. Oh yeah I No he was excited to do the jokes. Oh yeah. Yeah. No, he was he was very pumped. Yeah. They were bangers. I ran them, because the thing happened, I happened to be performing at the Kennedy Center that wee the next weekend So I ran the jokes And I realized that I had Adam Ray as a special guest that was on before me. He brought me on stage So I go, you know what? even I wrote jokes for the president of the United States to make fun of the press and everybody at the White House Correspondence dinner, but I just realized, Adam's here, Adam, you want to come out and read these in Trump's voice And so he was seeing the jokes for the first time s him and we had so much fun. I didn't know he does a Trump, which doesn't surprise me. I mean, his oppressions are insane. He can do anything.. He could do anything. He didn't even he was dabbling in a Biden week that I hit him up to do Trump Biden, which I think is a fucking, I think it's like forty million or seven some crazy amount. And again, just like the UFC, God only knows after clips. But it was a monumental comedy fucking moment having Shane as Trump right before the election. Adam is Biden right before the election right after their first debate where Biden was clearly fucking zonked and sleepy and just couldn't compete at all. And so I hit up at him via text. I'm like, do you have a Biden? He's like, I cover it for five seconds in in my standup. I'm like, uh free on Monday to fly to Austin and do Biden if I can get She as Trump And I remember telling Shane. I was like, I'm like, this is going to be an interesting ask D But you know, I'm just like, hey, Adam's got a Biden. and Shane's like, I have something to do on Monday. I'm canceling it. I'm doing Trump. He immediately saw the brilliance. It was just such a hot topic at the time. And my Godd, it was fucking crazy. There's clips that I see of that episode and I never rewatch Kill Ton's or anything I'll see clips sometimes and I literally go Holy fucking shit. There's one part where Trump goes, how many more retards are you going to bring out here because there have been like two handicapped people on this show? All right, how many more retards you have come as I'm pulling a name out of the bucket in real time. I go, anything can happen, mister President, Let's see what the next guy's like. And he comes out and he has like these weird deformed penguin arms. Oh And you see Shane as Trump crowds dying because they see him first and you see Shane as Trump Loo go It's just one of his His facial reactions to things are like his greatest secret fucking hilarious weapon. And when he's Trump, it's even amplified. It's like, in my opinion, tencent or twenty percent funnier than even Shane is. I mean, I'm sure he'd admit to this and know it because Trump is just such an interesting polarizing character and his take on him is so fucking funny, It's psychotic. His impression so good It's the greatest Trump repression of all time. 'cause it's like the jokes are so good Oh by far. He's so What's funny, J So happy. B it up a little bit. another fun appearance by trrue Nickens. This is the best. Jony, how many more retardigas do you have back? Anything gonna happen? This crowd is hungry for more retardig. Frankly, I don't think we've seen enough retardigas. How about a retarded racist? would you like to see This next person could be one. I pulled it out of the bucket. It is the Killed Sony debut I do believe of Jacob Barr, everybody, Jacob Barr. Oh, my God. Thank you. Well, who, well. Oh my God. Okay Cful what you w for Okay, hold on. We're gonna reset this, Jacob. What's funny is Adam knows better than anybody that you're not supposed to say anything after the bucket poll comes up. So me grabbing the mic out of his hand and putting it down is even another layer of hilarious to all of us. It's like Biden's misbehaving I don't know. did you see Shane's face when he notices his ans List look. And then He's our Jackie Gleason. Oh yeah, without a doubt. That's is plus plus man. He's the great one. He's generation. What people don't realize I mean, obviously is that He is that funny all the fucking time. All the time. We're hanging out in the green room, every bar, every restaurant, every green room, every every stairway, fucking anywhere, everything. He I always compare it to Mike Tyson in his prime. He just hits harder and different doing the smallest little things, even if it's a face, if somebody says something and just like reacts to it. It's crazy. It's also always fun. He's a fun guy. likeike he wants to have fun Like even when's rackking jokes it's But I know he was very reluctant to do the roast He was a little reluctant to even host that like Yeah, you know, but Well, everything is, you know, Everything could be something he crushed so hard caused a real ruckus. him and I Ecapping that thing. you know what I mean? Yeah It was supposed to be a, you know, this roast of black excellence and me and Shane are just fucking having time of our lives. He got Who said it was a roast of black excellence You're just saying that because it was Kevin Hart? Well yeah, that that's like that was It wasn't like explicitly stated or anything, right? Bea imagine if you said we're gonna to have a roast of white excellence? Right, exactly. Now why not crazy? Oh yeah. It's weird. you can and can't say. Oh yeah. That does weird. Oh yeah. you know That's a whole thing with that. I mean You can't talk about this but we can talk about that. Well, it's just weird what we accept whichich like doesn't bother me at all, but like Cane Velasquez when he fought in N UOC. heep brown pride tattooed on his chest His family came over from Mexico. they literally walked here White Pide, not so popular, right? White pride on your chest, you know, fucking Sean Strickland just decided to get white pride he posted a picture on Instagram of him as a world champion with white pride on his chest next to Kim Velazquez as a world champion with brown pride on his chest and people would lose their fucking Yes. And Mgan, not saying that Sean would ever put white pride on his jest. He would, No he would. In fact follow himt have any tattoos. I follow him on Twitter. He would trrust me. He's a wild boy. He didn even show a tary tattoo. He showed up at the UFC, even though he' banned. He showed up and they arrested him He's the world champion. There's a UFC event at the White House at the time before Justin Won, He was the only American world champion And they're like you can't come Because you talk too much shit about Israel He's a wild boy, but that's wild that your criticism about Israel is what keeps you from going to the White House as a world champion in a world title fights at the White House Like you think you would want to celebrate the American male world champion I think he said some other stuff too, though some Epstein stuff there. Yeah. He's a wild boy. Yeah. I think he's I told him when he retires from fighting, he one hundred percent should do a podcast And he was like,, you know, I seeing these guys doing these streamers and like I you don't have to do that. You don't have to do it that way. He's like, I couldn't do that. Just sit there every day and talk to people for I I'd lose my fucking mind. I'm like, right, but you don't have to do that Just your opinions on things. So he's an awesome podcast guest, you know, Iike he could totally totally do that, just talk about stuff. And also Seaan when he lets the whole stick down and just gives you his opinions on things, very smart guy. Yeah. He's notstupid at all And he would get better at it You know, as he did it more, he easily could do a podcast Yeah, he's entertaining his fuck. I just can't believe they kicked him out of the White house. And that is they kicked him out of the ellipse, that area. There I think there's video of it. seeee if you can find the video of it L sorry guys, like they got like fucking six cops a bulletproof vest. Yeah, I think there was like eighty five thousand people there. so it's funny that they're like that one the champion. It's just he wasn't supposed to be there. He's banned It was not invited or whatever. But even if you're not invited, shouldn't you be able to go to the fan area 're the world Champion. If you want to be that wild with no security, and there's video of him from the first night from the night of the Wayans where they found out that he was there, it's amazing. 'use he was wearing a hoodie the entire time And someone told me' got to take off the hoodie. and he's like, I can't listen going to be a problem As soon as takes off the hoodie, everybodyes, That's fucking strong Duckon. And then he's just surrounded by bros Getting a hugged to death He asked some dude some dude asked him to leg kick them so Sean leg kick some kid Crazy. We're champion fucking kickets of kid What is this world coming to him. It is him Is it is there audio This is crazy I like that we have some entertaining American He's the most entertaining. that Josh Okay Pock it. Hke it. poke it. Yeah. my go That was what was hilarious. was people were so upset that he said Michelle Obama's a man at the White House It's like, that's what he's doing. He's doing that on purpose. Like he's literally wearing an American flag bandana. He comes out to a Hulk Hogan song and he's wearing sunglasses. Yeah, it's not appropriate. You're right. Yeah, R He said the exact same thing when I interviewed him somewhere else. Yeah. He said I'm pretty sure he said Michelle Obama' a man like last time I interviewed him. That's what I heard is it's not his first rodeo at the. Michelle Obama is a man. That's how he ends his interviews il He's trying to get people to talk about him. Yep. You know, it's the whole thing is so crazy All of it would be nothing if you couldn't fight Exactly. That's what that's where it's real exciting is the pre fight stuff I mean, the post fight interview pretty polarizing, obviously, because that was the news But if for the real fans paying attention, you didn't get to see them do that Did I send it to you the Kil Tony mininute that he did at the pressard Oh my Godd. so funny because he's like purposefully bombing. So he's literally doing a joke He says, you guys know Tony Hinchcliff, I'm gonna to do my kill Tony Minute. and he's purposefully like bombing. It's corny, purposeful, bad jokes. and he's going, man, tough crowd. All right, let me try this one. it's like Literally being hilarious by strategically Trying to be funny, but not being funny. You could tell that he was planning on nobody laughing, but that it's set up punch and He's just fucking try he's just trying to entertain with he's trolling he' is rorolling. he's getting attention And then the most important thing, he can fight That dude's good. He's fucking good, man. He's fast as shit for a heavyweight. he's very light on his feet. fast shit, fast hands So fun to watch. And you know, what's interesting is he talked a lot of shit about Alex Perrera And you know, I want a shama on your mama or all that crazy shit Um Perrera losing to Cyriel Gone. if Perrera decides to fight again. I don't know if he's going to fight again. He might be done. I think he said he might be done. But I mean, a lot of fighters say that after a fight and especially after a loss Yeah. let them sit around for a while. then they come up with he's not done backack up the Binks truck Get him versus Josh Hope get him Oh God as a co main event on a fucking banging New Year's Eve card Let's go. Ho it willll be making fun of his head dress and his face makeu. Oh Oh I'd be insane. It would be insane You know, the thing is Hok's got to deal with that guy. That's a different guy. That's not Derek Lewis I mean, if he continues to fight heavyweight It is interesting watching a guy who's been so dominant at eighty five and at two hundred five with that all that extra weight on No if that necessarily was the right move You know, I mean, I think like some weight is probably good, but maybe even twenty pounds lighter. like maybe two hundred thirty something Maybe that would be a better weight if you were wants to fight a heavyweight because it seems like he was carrying Work with a weight vest on. Yeah It's crazy. Yeah. L a twenty five pound weight vest. It's nuts how much harder everything is So you got to realize he had fought at one hundred eighty five and he fought at two hundred five. That was what he weighed in at. but let's be Honest at one hundred eighty five, I think he probably weighed two twenty something two hundred twenty six, I think it was Fight night, which is nuts. It's forty pounds difference two hundred five, he probably got into the two hundred thirtyies, like two hundred thirty five, two thirty six, something like that. but still was not It didn't look like he looked at two hundred fifty one. T fifty one, he looked like he was carrying unnecessary weight. a little bit of it at least. And if he was just like twenty pounds lighter He would still have that speed and movement, but he's always had crazy knockout power. It might be a better waya for just S seemed like it was a lot of weight y here You know S it'll to his ass ass was giant. Fat ass. Big fat ass. You know me. you know, that's all I'm looking at That's why I watch UFC. And yeah, it was all there It's like a backpack. Well, that's where all the power comes from. You know, when you're pushing off your feet And you know, you're pushing off those fucking quads and pushing into those glutes and then torquking that body the way he does Ferocious power, dude. Damn that Cyril gone's good. Wh! O Yeah czy. So good, dude. And he's in his prime right now. Cyro Gan is like really coming into his own There's no heavyweight like him. No one moves like him. Yeah, I was gonna say extremely accurate for a heavyweight. Not just accurate, agile. Be we were talking about this the other day that basketball is a great place to start if you're a big athlete and you want to learn combat sports, especially striking. 'use think about how many direction changes basketball players take where they're always kind of doing that. They're always spinning and moving. It's a series of plyometrics. It's a series of hops and jumps like Jordan's jump. Imagine Jordan at a flying knee. Right Right? He's f. He's hit you with a flying knee from fourteen feet away. What do he are What's that interestnteresting because Oh Serial gun are Yeahah. so he started out playing basketball least where I come from basketball season and foot wrestling season or at the same time. So I wonder what he was doing back then. Well, he's in France, right? So France does not have wrestling in their high school or in their college You know, and he learned wrestling after he had become really elite world class Mi Thi fighter So he's got The grappling has come up in big ways, like his grappling' much better than it used to be really primarily as a striker And when John fought him, like John just got him to the ground and submitted him like quickly. It's like the different I think in that fight was kind of a big ass wake up call And Francis beat him too. So Francis beat him by just Francis just got a hold of him and Most of the fight was on the ground, a giant chunk of it because Francis fought that fight with a blown out ACL D defended his world title with a blown out ACO had big ass knee pads on I know, wobbly ask me, but that's how dangerous Francis is. Yeah He could just win it with grappling It's a shame that he's not in the UFC. It's a real shame. Yeah. It like That whole thing was what drove everyone crazy about boxing You know, it was really hard to get these guys together You know, and this was the whole idea why everybody was excited about what Riyad season was doing and Turkey Al Sheikh and you know, all those people that put together these big ass fights like Tyson Fury and Alexander Osk. And the last one they just did Rico Verhooven and Usic like they're putting together these big crazy fights That was the thing that drove everybody nuts about boxing. and that's what drives everybody nuts about MMA The one thing is it's the heavyweight division, the fact that the best heavyweight or at least the guy who was the lineal heavyweight champion in the world. isn't even fighting for the UFC. That's crazy crazy. Yeah Who knows maybe one day, right? Nope I don't think so. I tried to make it happen. Damn. I think we need to get those dudes together. Look at that Look atZo gone Dunkey That's crazy. I know. See that kind of ability to throw your body around like that is so huge as a striker becausecause a lot of those guys are plotting You know, they're plotters. They just kind of like wobble through. I think one they need to do is get Francis and the USC together, they allll do mushrooms Yeah, just like Make friends. Yeah becausecauseuse he doesn't have much time left. I think Francis is thirty eight Is that all old he is I think he's thirty eight Which is different as a heavyweight, heavyweights turns to forty in September. Wha Not much time left, right Fortty, you can do, but unless you're Bernard Hopkins fighting on a world class level in your forties kind of unheard of I R remember when Fr when Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlick A lot of people didid not think that he had a chance. Oh yeah, I rel it very clearly. Yeah he outboxed the fuck out of. Oh man he looks so good. Truly the executioner. I wantan to say he was in his forties. When that happened I think so. How old was Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly Pavllik He fought at a world class level until he's fifty years old. Yeah We were all watching that one, everyverybody from Youngstown going All right, this is it. We're going to get back on the right path because it was after his loss to u Margarita. Is that right guy that got with the cement in his gloves against the one guy Maro Antonio Margarito, I do Fty three. Wow. He was forty three years old Agst twenty six year old crazy, especially at one hundred and seventy pounds, like nobody thinks That way that you can be etitive at a world class level into your forties. Most of the time like people just write you off on the number. Yeah. They don't care what you look like. he's not gonna to be able to do it. Was he the first one to be Kelly? Is that what I just saw? Wow. Okay. So he lost to him and that's where shit started to get fucked up. ' then he went alla Bad run after that. Well, you got beat up like that. Yeah. It's just tough on the brain, dude. There's only so many of them fights that you could take whereere you get really beat up like that not put it on them You know, there's been a bunch of fights where a fighter got beat up really badly and then they were never the same again Maldric Taylor vers Julio Cesar Chavez, That's a great example Chavez just put it on him and dropped him in the final moments of the round and then Richard Steeel stopped it and it was like this crazy fucking controversy because he stopped the fight with like one second to go in a fight that Melrick was ahead on the score cards But the real The real story of that fight was that the damage that Chavez had put on Melric. Meljric was never the same again actually won his next two fights and then had a bad staph infection Oh wow. So after he beat Sergia also He was set to fight Paul Williams but to major stapp infection and allergic reaction to some antibiotics nearly kill them. whoa He eventually was able to fight against light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez. Martinez beat he beat him he Martinez beat him Um, by yeah unanimous twelve round decision. Sergio Martinez was a bad mother for. Yes it was Yeah In late Rounds, Martinez came up. Yeah, it's just a crazy sport man. You only have so many wars in you There's only so many times you could do that and the really clever guys are the guys that just don't get hit much I went down a Mad dononna rabbit hole recently. Oh my God. That fucking guy's a freak. Oh, he's an animal. What a career. who's animal. Unbelievable. He fought everybody He was one of the few guys to really rock Floyd May with him. Yeah. knocked his tooth out The war his tooth around a chain He got Floyd's tooth and wore it as a piece. seeee if you can find the tooth that my dononna had of Floyd. Look at this Oh my God, that is so cool. How hilarious is that That's So funny. He had his tooth put on a fuck. I think he wears Food's tooth on a necklace. Wow Boy, what a square jawed motherfucker that guy is, huh? Yeah. Look at that jaw. guy looks he could hit him with a baseball bat He was a tough dude. inssane career. I think he fought everybody. The Broner fight too. he dropped Broner That was when Broner was in his prime Yeah his beast It's a It's a hard ass fucking sport. any combat sport. that is a hard way to make a living. Profitable. Do you see all the stuff's going on with Floyd Yeah, I can't wrap my head around it. I don't understand how someone makes that much money and doesn't pay taxes or whatever Yeah, well, I could tell you how. you run out of money. Yeah, you know. you spend so much money on things You don't do you think he has a business manager Maybe he wasn't looking out for his best interest. I don't know Just J gota put somebody in charge of that amount of money You would think You would think seven hundred fifty million dollars would last you a while. Yeah. I mean he's not even fifty. to give one guy five percent. Hell was flight now I Yeah, put some away But the thing is it's like That lifestyle, his lifestyle was all about showing you his wealth his lifestyle He's forty nine. Imagine 'm making seven hundred fifty million dollars and you're forty nine, you're broke. Oh God That's crazy. But Tyson talks openly about how we spent hundreds of millions of dollars just went through it You know, if you're living that life where you're just wearing diamonds everywhere and you're buying crazy watches and you know, Floyd does these things. you're seeing when he'll go into a hotel room when he's traveling. And he talks about like the watches that he brought. and so he opens up suitcases with millions of dollars in watches just open suitcase. You ever seen these? findind them because they're kind of hilarious Be he's just trying to figure out which one he wants to wear. brings them all with him. Yeah, it's just showing off. it's showing off that he's got two suitcases filled with diamond encrusted potato. Philiipes and You know, the most high ended watches Look at this See if you do you have the clip Here it is. Let put some volume on this. Look at this about what I'm doing What Floyd is doing, what Floyd ain't doing, what I do got, what I don't got Just know, I'm gonna stand in my lane. I ain't gonna fuck with nobody and I don't wantnabody fuckking with me If I go on vacation, my fult when I go on vacation For thirty days. I take thirty watches with me. Look at this, dud. You know what? You know what was crazy as this If we add ten more days I'd take ten more watches But then I'll say, fuck it. If I were to bring out the one and only, then' I not bring out the on that cost eighteen million do. Oh, Jesus M matter of fact, you know I'm gonna do For you mother fucking hatey today, I'm gonna go fuck on fifty thousand dollars 'cause Iin' got shit else to do Money May, or mother fucking day. That's the problem So that you can only do for so long. Yeah. So if you have one eighteen million dollars watch, like okay, let's not get crazy. Let's not get crazy. You wanted to get it, you got it. You have seven hundred fifty million dollars. You have one eighteen million dollars watch You can't have Teen watches cost millions of dollars. L because you're going to need more. You're going to keep wanting to buy more. You're going to keep you're going to run out of money. How many Rolls Royces do you have? Okay, each one of those is a half a million dollars. You have four or five of them How many Ferraris? you got ten Ferraris? What Some of those fes are almost a million dollars. You have ten, almost a million dollar cars Okay, so just in watches and cars alone We're looking at fifty sixty million Okay, and then you have to make one hundred and twenty plus to actually have sixty I don't know if he's leasing them. I don't know how he's financing things. I don't know I just love to know. real make that money back by He can make the money that he needs back by literally making a super documentary about how he spent it. You ever seen that thirty for thirty broke about how the NFL players all spent their money? No Well, it's unbelievable. onene of the easiest watches ever And like It's got to be thirty for thirty' like biggest production ever. Like it's everywhere. it's just huge And yeah, who the hell doesn't want to know about that? Right. And I'm waiting on that Nicholas Cage dock that probably nobody's making either where it's like because he's a different version of that. You know about this. He went broke? Oh yeah But even then he made it back again Well, yeah, he works his ass off. So he went on a He's on a terror. He's just making movies left and right And u Yeah He faced severe financial struggles in the late two thousands, going from one hundred fifty million dollars fortune to being six million in debt. Wha. He never officially filed for bankruptcy, but he cleared his debts by relentlessly taking on movie roles, including direct video films and selling off extensive real estate and assets. And I guess he bought like a lot of T Rex skulls, L he spent his money on like crazy things. He didn't just go watches and cars He would find crazy pieces of art Oh historical things, I think Well, he was a movie star way back You got to realize like what was his first film? I think his first film was like nineteen eighty or something I remember him being a movie star when I was in high school. Yeah That's a lot of time of being in that bizarro Hollywood bubble Getting your brain cooked by fame He's one of those you can watch him do anything One of those freaks were E though people will say, I don't like this, Nicholas Cage thing, I don't like that. article about what he spent his money on F four hundred fifty five thousand dollars for two snakes. Okay, so it was two hundred seventy six thousand dollars in two thousand five, the equivalent of four hundred fifty five thousand dollars today. Thanks, inflation. How crazy is that What's think about that, two hundred seventy five thousand dollars in two thousand five is four hundred fifty five thousand dollars today How fun is inflation What was Nicholas Cage's first movie Yeah. Just that crazy movie with him and in Arizona to be like the first big hit, right? That was a big one That was a big one. H new ones are good too. ack filmography if you go all the way back. nineteen eighty two fast times at Ridgemont High Nicholas Coppola Valley Girls what I was thinking of. That was in eighty three Yeah. C credit is Nicholas Coppa. That's before he changed his name because he didn't want to be connected It was is his uncle, Francis Ford Cobbolo? Is that what it is Valley Girl. So Valley Girl was eighty three. so I was in high school, dude Big Those were huge movies, dude. Raising Arizona is so fucking funny. I saw that like a year ago I forgot I forgot how funny it was. Remember Tiop or text cob was in there The boxer with the flat nose who fought Larry Holmes He did a bunch of mov big white guy. Yeah. big big fucking corn fed white guy. motorcycle. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's great. It's a Cohen brrothers movie, right? Raising Arizona is Those guys might be the goats They might be the goats of Commedy. They're ne thearly brothers.. No doubt. how many amazing hilarious fucking movies And the Cohen brrothers they were always so out there. everythingverything' so out there Some of their films are just like, what the fuck are you guys doing? King It was King Pin Fairley brothers? Yes. thoseose guys too. Without a doubt. Fuck, that was good. Unbelievable Fuck, that's a funny movie. So so fucking great. So funny The scene where he's throwing up in the toilet when she's talking about him eating her p Pace ready. C Woody's range is incredible. You know what I heard about that movie? that they had primed all the actors. to get really excited when Bill Murray throws three strikes because he had to throw three strikes in a row. And so they said this might take a while, so we're going to really need your enthusiasm And then Bill Murray actually threw three strikes in a row first attempt and everybody went crazy like for real because they were, you know, like they were said, this is not going to happen this way. So when he actually did it Everybody went fucking bananas Dude, Woody's a freak bro. Since he's moved here and goes to kill Tony and like We hang out and stuff On D being making friends with him Like I knew he did a lot of great stuff, but he sneaks up in so many great things. It's insane. He's in fucking um What is the Conan Brothers one with notot there will be bllood. It was made at the same time with Javiar Bardem. Oh my Godd, how am I blanking on this? It's No country for old men Oh that's right. He's in it. and he's not even. they don't even like promote him on that or anything. He just comes in the movie halfway through with all these other fucking greats and is crushing It's hard to think that that's a Cohen brrothers roe People versus Larry Flint. He's a freak of nature, fucking Well little thing that you sent me the other day with him when he's playing LBJ Oh my Godd, it's so good I randomly stumbled across that one. I'm like, oh, I'llall asleep to this. Woody is LBJ. and it's one of those movies that fucking kept me awake becausecause it was so goddamn good mesmerizing. Super nice guy too. like easy to hang out with. Oh my God, the best. Very chill with everybody. just hangs out Wys in the green rooms just like one of us. Yeah, normal know which just hard to do. and you've been famous that long, just be cool Yeah. But also he doesn't have a phone. You get a hold of him, you got to go through his wife to get a hold of him. he's smart. Just insulates himself from all the nonsense. Brilliant So it. Yeah, But I think when you get to like that level, you kind of have to or you'll go crazy. Yeah You know, yeah. He has this fun. He likes laughing, sipping his tequila. smmoking his weed. He's got it all figured out pros his own weed makes his own tequila eats live food or whatever and just laughs and enjoys life Yeah, it's nice to know that people can make it through that crazy maze And you know, you could either go nuts and buy tyyrannosaurus Rex skulls Or you could just completely disconnect from it all and just be yourself. keep keep telling it I know him and Mcona have a TV show that's coming out where they play brothers, right? Yeah I think it's on Apple TV coming out soon. M So What's it been like like the weirdness post roast weirdness I'm always surprised by these things. I'm always surprised They last so long that anybody's talking about it. It's so bizarre I was surprised the Pang dang thing, I was surprised at the Trump thing and this one is really surprising because with Other ones are like, ah, there's a time and a place for jokes like that or this or that or whatever And this is the time and the place for it is like the roast of Kevin Hart You know, I'm going to go for it And we roasted Kevin, you know, I did a Fucking George Floyd joke in the u at the Tom Brady Roast and I did a Wh's the white guy that shot people fan base as God damn it kid that shot people up in wherever T a little more specific. Whes. The white guy shot a couple people, had a gun at a thing. They made it look like it was black people, but it was actually white people that he shot that were shooting at him or had guns What his name? has those I have no idea who you're talking Dav. David Luke is his friends with them, brought him to the Oh Kyle writtenouse. That's it. That's it. Oh didy written house joke. I did this. And then this one, people are offended or something I don't know And yeah, if you just watch that clip on my discount, it's a crazy clip. But if you watch the entire flow of the row set, it's just one last departing joke, which That's my thing, man. It's like I knew Earthquake would be standing up on his feet like he was halfway through my set, you know you know, there's standing O's that are happening during my actual roast. And on this one Because there were so many people on it, it was such a long, big roast, you know, they set you to an allotted time. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do something I don't normally do and blast off more jokes per minute than I normally do. inststead of milking it and getting applause breaks and things like that, I'm just gonna create a bang bang, bang, bang, bang final stand of things you know, what's funny is that I have something that's supposed to offend everybody. L I don't want you to like one hundred percent of any of my jokes. I'm not that guy. I'm heelish Bad guyro fle. Exactly So it's funny people got offended about the George Floyd thing and people a lot of people said, Yeahah, well, Pete Davidson did a Charlie Kirk joke And they're comparing these things from two different spectrums. But what they didn't mention is that I did a Charlie Kurt joke in my set So them, fuck them, fuck them, fuck them, You know what? Everybody gets them. Everybody gets it is always Everybody get some jokes Ebody does. I said that Kevin has a quite the fan base, he has more gunfire at his merch table than Charlie Kirk or whatever. and So you know, for them to for people to nitpick that joke and be offended and it's funny because it was a lot of A lot of comedians, a lot of black comedians were like, I'm upset about this. you know, they made their videos, which is It's just hilarious because they're not on the roast. They're not in attendance at the roast. You saw Tiffany Hadish. That was the best one. Nobody handled it better than her. Did findind Tiffany Hadish getting asked questions? It was it a TMZ thing? Yeah about the roast because she handled it so perfectly. They were trying to they were trying to everybody. Of course there were everybody. Even Cheryl Underwood, who handled it all like a champ, We made friends before had a Netflix brunch that week that was that festival. Wellude, I told you about Cheryl. Yeah. She's the shit. She's awesome. Yeah. I worked with Cheryl in like the early two thousands, I think it was in Montreal. I told you, she's a monster. Yeah. She go on stage her purse on just clutching her purse on stage and murdered Sot here's listen to Tiffany. Sor all there look so good. Do you have thirty seconds to chat Re quick? Yeah. So talking about Kevin Hart Roast, right? Yes, it was so much fun. So Monnie Love, they didn't think so. Monnie Love was like, you know what? It's exhausting, It's edgy. spepecifically about the George Floyd joke. What are you thinking? Is it just comedy? Should they have been a little less I think it should have been shorter. The show was too long. Okay. I mean I was sitting there the whole time. I had to peede somethingomething I didn't hear to George Floyd becausecause I had to pe so bad.? Yeah, I was a glorified seat filler and I was tired. Also, I mean, Lining and other people were like, oh maybe it was a little too racially Motivated. What are you As far as like the jokes. Is this just comedy? Or are people taking it too seriously Is this all comediian saying it that wasn't invited That's the fucking comedian Tiffany Hattish. Bro, that was her version of the Shot O'Malley Walk off c. I love it. I love it, man You never forget those people that actually are answering honestly in real. Well real comics. And again, it's the same thing for one hundred percent. She's not only is it a fun walk off home run, but she's also one hundred percent correct. There's nobody that was there that was offended. There was no ruckus there just like everything else where you leave and you go This things this thing's kind of crazily taking off, it seems. A lot of people are talking about that one joke at the end So We live in an outrage culture and an outrage there's a there's money in outrage. There's engagement in outrage. Orage is the it's the commodity that everybody wants. Yeah. They want to be outraged.. And they want to be right. And if you're outraged and you've got a good point, you just ride that fucking thing for as much juice as you can get out of it and then you move on to the next thing What are you mad at now? It You know, there's never in any of these things, there's never a moment where I'm like, o, this could cause a problem It was it's never been that way. Wild. It was high fives Yeah. High fives and laughter after my three PM set in a half filled Madison Square Garden waiting for the eight PM arrival of Trump to speak., you know, on a thirty four person lineup Everyone was thrilled. way to get the crowd going. I mean,'re just getting the party started. The lights were up. like it obviously wasn't the best position for me on that lineup, but the same exact thing. And then it's like a little bit later, you realize like, oh, they're making a news story about the Puerto Rico joke of whole thing. So interesting. the joke is gonna be a problem I would have never told you to do that joke during that, but I told you that was going to be a problem in your act. It wasn't supposed to be in my original thing for that It was the last second filler because they gave me more time than everybody. It was a very bizarre thing. They gave me more time bizarre thing. First of all. The idea that you would go on after someone like who went on before you Stehven Miller? No not was It was the national anthem with a guy painting a ing a fame. Actually no, he went on after I went on right of the national anthem. But someone had some kind of a like raa raa speech wasn't. I wish there was. That all came like way after, which is crazy. They just had me on the wrong position on the thing and uh, You should only do stand upp. Oh we're totally doing stand up. Totally tootally. It doesn't work. Totally.s like. You got to say, But then again, it did did work in house. The place isn't miced for I'm sure stand upp comedy or lit for stand up anything like it. No, they were laughing. They wereving bit old time. Well, they werere probably happy that something wasn't stiff and boring R dollar. Taxesn' fucking, right Tariffs. I mean, Rudy Giuliani went on like three hours after mon. It was a nuts all day. It was a super long thing. My point being is that it always surprises me that I'm the news, even though I'm because If someone else said it, if it was a politician that did it or someone else, someone high up in the administration, that would make sense. Same thing with the roast. If it was clean comedian, right? If Nate Bargazzi or Jim Gaffigan were on it and they said that, that's crazy. me saying it That's normal They don't know that though. See the thing is, it's like you've achieved a level of fame that like really snuck up on people over the last couple years You know, it's because The rise of Kill Tony has been completely organic There's been no promotion of Kill Tony that made it become what it is. It's all just people sharing it on YouTube, sharing it online. That's all it is. clips. And these moments, you know, And then, you know, obviously the Shane moments and all the Kyle Duniggan. It's been so many amazing moments. It such a good show It came organically And then you got to this point over the last couple of years're like, Oh, we got to pay attention this fucking guy And then we had and then after they started attacking you from the White House thing or the Madison Square Garden thing rather, which is twenty twenty four thenen it was on. then it's on like Donkey Kong. Right? Y That's two years later. So now you're a guy that they go to. to get mad at. And there's a bunch of people like that online that that's their business. Their business is people are mad at them. They have hot takes, people are mad at them That's So youre you've fallen into that category. and So there's going to be people that genuinely don't like what you did and don't like you. and then there's going to be people that are just using it as a commodity They're just using it as outrage, which is part of what the game is. you know, this this is what they do and their engagement You know fucking game that they play and it's kind of what we do in the joke game. Yeah. You know, you get engagement, you get people to laugh. you say outrageous things that you don't even really mean, but's because it's a funny thing to say It's just like, I always say Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff. You know that right? Right. It' like it's just jokes. Like when you say inappropriate shit on purpose And mean that is like everybody used to know that. L Louis CK was a very left wing progressive guy when he was saying really fucked up things that he didn't mean on purpose because they were funny. Yeah. L That was what he did And everybody was fine with it uil somewhere Around it seems to like it was like twenty sixteen, two thousand like it started to turn a corner where it became like People are starting to take these things as statements rather than as comedy material And they started trying to pretend that the person really means this Like that's where it got crazy And that happened around the time where social media really came into prominence Because before that There was no real avenue to do that. There's no real avenue to pretend you were really deeply upset. I'm sure there's some people that were upset, but there's also a lot of like people that are just ill They're online all the time on these social media apps just arguing and spittning out venom and yelling at people and they yell at them. It's like they're in hell all day long. And anytime something comes along, they could be upset at. They got to they have to have their take They have to have that hot take. Yeah And if their hot take gets engagement, they're all looking at their likes and they just start you re engaging with that subject and going back on it and this is the real problem Good luck with that That's bad for your head, kid.ight Exactly. Very bad for your head. All those people that I know that are like especially comics that are doing it, The comics that are doing it, almost all of them don't have good careers But no, all of them, right. None of them have like impressive career, especially compared to their contemporaries that are doing well And then on top of it, they're all mentally ill They're all people that are fucking filled up with pharmaceuticals and they're going to therapy. They're like literally mentally ill and they're online talking about fascists. You know, like stop. get your shit together. No one, your opinion is not that valuable to people because they know that you're fucked up. Do you not understand that Like the way you view the world is is it's not a healthy balanced perspective Like you're viewing the world in this like mentally ill lens Well, the whole online thing doesn't it doesn't even convert to sold tickets or a bigger thing. It's such a temporary drug for them. to get to fill this void of what they're not doing. Right. It doesn't convert to them people wanting to go see them. No. I mean, some people maybe they getting like a little juice out of it, but It's not enough because you're also opening the door. If you do become popular, you have to understand that if you've been spitt and hated people for a decade and then you become popular, boy that hate's coming your way Oh yeah. It's coming your way, you know. I mean, this is one of the things that I said after the Mincia stuff I said, even though I think it was the right thing to do, I wouldn't do it again becausecause just too much It's just too much. You just you create all you just feel the darkness of it all, the neg it's all negative. It's all negative. Even if though it had to be done Hes' got this guy that with it It showed me how Cpletely absent of morals and ethics the business is complete abent. They knew what he was doing and they did not care. They didn't care because they were profiting from it This is the conversation that I had with my agent when they were dumping me. I told them I go, you're making a mistake right now that's going to affect the rest of your life. You have to understand the choice that you're making You're choosing align with someone who in any other industry, the person would be in jail If that person was also if this was in literature or if this was in music, they would be sued into high heaven. Like there's songs that like they don't even seem Like they're that close to each other and people had to give like songwriting credits to it. Yeah Oh yeah. L songs like people get inspired by certain songs and then they write A song that sounds Close enough There's a rhythm to it that people get upset. Well, there's only so many notes and so many chords and there's only so many beats and so much timing. And it's often the same thing with comedy. Like there's some crossovers in a writer's room, which I've been in so many of, so many people writing on the same subject will have the same jokes It's only when it's like what Mensia was doing word for word, long form. Well that was a different thing But he he was a buccaneer. That was a totally different thing There's songs like, o, so I was listening to this video the other day or watching this video the other day, rather. that was comparing Radiohes creep to an older song And they had to give creep radiohead rather, had to give this older song writing credits for this which sounds so different. And then Radiohe accused Lana Del Ray or someone from their organization, accused Lana Del Ray of having a song that ripped off creep or was sounded too much like creep. And it did sound a little like creep, but it was very different. likeike it should be. Obviously, this is like inspired If that's the like Elvis Pressty's entire career was inspired by black musicians Like like the way danced and moved and the way he sang So it's like, what are we doing? stealing and then there's inspired by. Inspired by is what we were all doing. It's like we were talking about that computer earlier, that chip manufacturing thing. That thing was built on the back all the fucking super wizard geniuses that have been working on all the different technology that led to that being. You can't just invent that in a vacuum. If have to invent that on all these other inventions that have taken place for decades before you This is the same it's like with music It's interesting how litigious they are because they're run by a certain group of people. T me. But they're so good at like suing people. Btersweet syymphony You remember that song? Yeahah, totally. They had a They had to give all their money to the stones. ye Because it was what's wrong Tony is or while, Jamie R is Oh, I can't do that. That's right you can Oh we have to do do. I know. Are you if if I mean, we learned this the hard way because I have an actual band can play anything and everything and years ago they could play anything and everything. our old episodes hold Um ' you know, I'd literally be just to a, you know, a shy person. I'd be like, what do you you know, you ever do karaoke? they're like, yes, I'd go, what song do you sing? and then they they go d da d da And literally they would go right into it. And now you can't hum A song few seconds. So Btersweet Symphony was a sample from the verb developed Bittersweet Symphony from a sample from a nineteen sixty five version of Rolling Stone's song The Last timeime addding vocal, strings, guitar, and percussion. After a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones former manager Alan Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling Stones members, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards who were' also added to the songwriting credits. Wow twenty nineteen, ten years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards and Klein's son ceded the rights to the verb songwriter Richard Ashcroft because he was probably broke. There's similar things that have happened recently with livia, Rodrigo and Paramore and then uff daddy and ye. Can you please look up the other one that I set up though, which was radiohead creep? Lona Dell Ray and Radiohead Creep had to give songwriting credits to another band. The Hollies, That's right. What was the original song the air that I breathe It's interesting. when you listen to, let's listen to them. See if you could find that there's a comparison video that I watched uh, on, um YouTube see if you could find that because it's interesting how they they they say the first one And you're like, jeez, I don't see it. Well, we'll have to edit this out, ladies and gentlemen, but you could find it yourself Radioheads creep versus Lonado Rays getet free versus the Hollys, the air that I breathhe. Yeah, that was a live version of it, but if you hear the recorded version of it, it's even more You could see L people get inspired by things I get it, though I get it in those cases, especially like the beginning of the Holly song and then the beginning of radiohead like sort of dead on Yeah They're set in a mood, like a very specific mood. Have you ever seen how the guy from here's a crazy one, the guy from The Gorillas, the song Clint Eastwood. think it is He had a like one of those like little kids kind of keyboards And he hit the demo button because like oftentimes it'll just have a regular song or whatever. And u It's The entire backbone of their biggest hit You'd have to you'd have to pull it up, I guess to understand, but it's that bant There it is. So that's just on the thing. Wow And somehow they got away with it You want to get your backyard summer ready, but you don't want to break the bank? Wayfair gets it. Planning on dining alfresco, or relaxing poolside? 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I was the one who told you were gonna get stabbed for the Puerto Rican joke There was that was so many years later, it's crazy. I was doing that joke during the pandemic to the point to where it got extended to where you were part of it. And what's funny is I left those tags of the longer joke out of the Trump rally one, which probably would have protected me probablyably would have saved it going Ah, it's gonna get me stabbed, whatever, you know what I mean? Then you would have to do the Amy Schubera joke. Well, yeah, there was a lot to it, yeah People don't realize that that's a chun of a much, much bigger chunk at the time. Well, that's why it should be in a set., you know.f Comedy 'uch such a weird art form. I mean, look, I love it to death, but real comedy should be seen in person Oh ye You know, Stanhope said this once like it was like everything we do on TV is just to try to get people to come see us in the clubs. Exactly. Like that's really what it is. So you just really want people to go there live because that's the real fun. The real fun is all us a bunch of human beings fucking around and having a good timeight. As soon as you start taking it seriously and making it something that it's not, like you' get why you're doing it because that has become a thing that people do today I'm just saying like for your own mental health just not it's not good for you to be engaging like I was saying about the Carls thing, like just engaging in conflict. It's not good. It's not good for you. It's bad for you. feels bad It's not good It's not there's negative energy and positive energy. You should spend as much of your time possible on things that make positive energy. And I know it sounds hippy 'use I'm a little bit of hippie. I got a lot of hipp in me But that's what I believe. I believe you should spend as much of your time having fun making people laugh, having a good time And less about dwelling on shit That's why I try to stay off Twitter Because when I get on, I just start freaking out at all the different news stories that are just omination after abomination. We' just so angry. It's just impossible now. You know, it used to be Twitter was Twitter and this and that, but really it's just the news X is the news. It is the news. so hard to absorbed that. It was fun and, you know, it's cool and all and my algorithm still shows me stuff that I love, police chases gone wrong and and UFC highlights and all of this stuff, but all the stuff around that is just crazy. I did a thing because I was staying at a hotel in u Yeah DC right after the state of the Union or something? Anyway, I'm like, okay, it's a hotel TV. I never get to watch regular TV. I'm gonna be asleep in a few minutes anyway So I threw on I ended up going by CNN. I'm like, let's see what these Wackos are saying over here. Let's see how fake the news can possibly be because from what I understand, the most recent state of the Union was a solid state of the Union and very positive and long and entertaining. Let's see what they say. Oh racism this, he caused the deaths of black people here. He's the reason why we why America is failing. It's the reason why we're the laughing stock of the country made me so stressed out I'm like, okay, well let's see what Fox News is saying. And it was crazy over there. And then you have photo they say. A Well, they had their counterpoint person on unlike CNN where they're just all in agreents. Yeah. Yeah and going by six people literally going, Yeah, he's the worst. And let's not forget that he doesn't think trans people deserve this and this and like they're just going on and on about straight doom And Fox News had a counterpoint person that was stressing me out. and you know, I swear to God, I'm not kidding. This is not a joke I was flipping through the different chan. goo by MSNBC. I'm like, o my go, this is crazy. I put on silence of the Lambs. al yourself down. I swear to God, I was asleep five minutes later Silon and I ended up it just coincidentally was on the buuffalo Bill part where like he's got a girl in a wellotion on the bask here ickness And I'm like, h peace on the cable television I never get to just watch normal TV. So did Fox News have a positive spin on the state of the Union address? I did not watch it. I remember for some reason it was stressing me out, whatever was going on Be like they they at least Fox has they'll argue still like the news used to be. They'll have both sides on and kind of talk it out And CNN has that poor guy, that poor one guy that just takes all the bullets for everybody is just going, you're lying. This is that stat doesn't exist. Scott Jenning. Y. Yeah. Yeah pooor guy probably he probably has months to live. He takes so many bullets every day He's a fucking war hero out there It's It's a very turbulent world when it comes to discourse. everybody's mad at everybody else It's really weird to watch It's really weird to watch these shows on CNN now that are basically like bad podcasts. get interrupted every five minutes for a commercial. It's really what it's like I just don't I don't remember it being that way where it's just so many panel opinion shows. I remember was it was more like CNN used to have Bourdain show on You know, Well they would travel around the country and ck out I travel around the world and check out food. and it was interesting you know, give you his perspective on the cultures and All the problems and the things that these people are facing their food and what the community was like. fucking great show They did a bunch of different shows that were different, you know, and then Somewhere along the line, man. they just went all outrage Yeah And I don't think that's going to get any different now. I mean now, it looks like Barry Weiss is going to be running that as well. So she's running the CBS newews and perhaps she's going to be running CNN, the same company is going to be running CNN Like okay Good luck. Good luck because it's al people already don't want to listen. They don't want to take it seriously. Yeah. You know, and that's why X has become the news. The reason why it's become the news is because they can't trust the news. Right. You know crazy. Like Tim Dylan had these two New York Times reporters on this podcast And I listened to him talking about it. I hadn't listened to them on the podcast, but I listened to him talking about it. And he was saying that they said there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence. And I was like, what What There's no if watch one Mike Benzs episode of my podcast where he breaks it down. It's almost impossible that he's not Like what the fuck are you like no evidence? No, that's not true. There's just evidence that you're not considering So it's like if the New York Times and the people that we're always supposed to trust to be the objective purveyors of all that's going on in the world, if they're compromised. So they're not allowed to say things or they have narratives that they they're supposed to spin one way or another, or they're very cautious about being honest about their opinion very, very shielded about their actual opinions Either either one of those is not good. or if they actually believe that, that's not good either Becauseuse that means you're not really paying attention obbjective Watch a Mike Ben's episode where he breaks down Epstein's connections. It's nuts. The whole thing's nuts It's crazy that anybody could say that he wasn ant intelligence Yeah, there's no doubt about it, but they will do anything to push their own story. They don't yeah, it's a propaganda network. Yeah. And whatever that propaganda is, I mean, that propaganda will shift depending upon who's in control of the realm of the reigns rather really is a realm Realm of nonsense whoever's in control, they're going to be the ones that dictate how the narrative goes. And it's always going to be whatever the sponsors are. That's why you never hear anything about An of these studies that they're showing about the vaccine safety signals that they found very early on, how they hit it. all this fousci stuff. They're not showing any of that The Tulsy Gabbard speech. We talked about that where, you know, she gave this speech explaining how he lied to Congress and Fauci pressured these other scientists changangeed their perspective on whether or not it was gain of function research. and the shit that we had a pretty big feeling about back in twenty twenty. Yeah, you don't hear any of these people. they're not covering it. Yeah. And they can't Because they can't really tell you the whole news. They can only tell you the news they're approved to tell you That's not good. and that's how X comes about. Yeah. That's how X becomes the place where everybody trusts. But then you go to X and it's just filled with horssehit There's so much lies. There there's always video of something happening and they're saying this is going on right now. and you're like And then someone says, no, this is a video from twenty twenty two.. This is in, you know, this part of the world. This is AI. This is China. This is not Israel. this is, you know, it's like There's so much horseshit. And there's so many bots It's like You just dip your toe into the water and you just feel poisoned. You're like I got to get out of here. But then you feel irresponsible for not paying attention. Exactly. You know I feel like so many people feel like they're doing the right thing, watching the news and being informed and they hear that the news is fake and they think that's just like a Trump talking point. I've always said that Trump calling it fake news was like one of the worst things that could happen because then it sounds like a Trump thing and the Trump enemies go, fake news. sureure it's fake. If he's saying it, then it can't be fake Because we have to disagree with him. Meanwhile, it's a fucking, it's a goddamn Pion. I mean, it is And they're right. it's fake. Yeah 'sake A lot of the news is fake. It's not true. All that I mean, the fact that no one got in trouble for all that Russia gate stuff Crazy. Absolutely crazy. And that' still the same people that were pushing that rushig gate shit are they're still giving opinions on TV. Right. It's nuts. Yeah. There's no repercussions to be found. They get to say whatever they want It's crazy Well, the repercussion is no one takes them seriously That's real. They've suffered that. I mean, we've seen that in real time And I think the pandemic was the big That was the big wake up call for a lot of people Especially people that were forced to take the vaccine because they had jobs or, you know, they had a fly. or they had family members. And then they they got some horrible side effect And those people got what they call red pilled, you know. I know a lot of people that got red pilled from that They just can't take it anymore It's crazy Andutes buubblish, you know what I mean? There's certain areas geographically. in which That's the mentality and they stick to it. I mean Here in Austin, I'm known as, you know U a skinny little fagot I went to LA and it turns out I'm a racist Nazi. Like I'm like They were doing jokes on me at that roast in which it's like, what are you guys talking about? There's parts where I'm literally like, what the f I've never even heard this about myself. I'm on a comedy show every week where people take shots at me And I've None of this is a thing Well, it's made up. and it's all they also made up a bunch of stuff about like you going to Saudi Arabia Yeah, which is crazy. Right craz They just made it up. Yeah. not only made it up, turned it down. didn't go when offered vast sums of money that the bus boy bag boy Tony would never imagine turning down. And people don't even know that you turned it down because you haven't been public about it. Right. I mentioned it I glazed over it on one for one moment on Kill Tony once, but yes, people turned down that money are you and Shane Gillis. Yeah And meanwhile, Netflix that pinned it on their Instagram, that joke and with the caption long sip because I'm sipping my water because the joke isn't on me. So the camera shouldn't be on me Meanwhile, they're getting my reaction shot to all you guys took that Saudi Arabian money and it makes it look like I'm offended or something or guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money. But just a joke when you just lie about a fact and to make a joke. is crazy because you're just lying That's there's a difference between that and making a joke about something. Like you had to make something true and then criticize them for something. So you had to lie about something. and then criticize them about that lie that you just invented. Which takes three seconds to find out it wasn't true. Exactly. takes a really quick search. L, oh, he didn't go. Right. Okay On the contrary, the guys that Chelsea was complimenting during that set, basically, Kevin Hart and Pete Davidson did take the money and went to Saudi Arabia. Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler would have taken that money if they offered her to go to Saudi Arabia? She went to dinner at Epstein's house. Exactly. the fuck are we talking about But it's all right, becausecause Woody Allen was there and apparently she gave him the w have you She told him That's what they said. She told him. She was very upset with him Yeah at the intelligence agent slash sexual Predator's house. Yeah guys who arrested for statutory rate That's fine though. raz Just, yeah, don't be a white guy It's just the whole thing is so stupid. likeike if you want to make fun of someone for anything for you know, you looking gay or you like you're down with that There when you invent a fact that's not true, you say it's not true and then you criticize someone for that, like that's stupid That's a stupid way to do comedy You know? And the way that it's covered and everything, it's like, what what are you guys doing? Well, if you didn't know and people didn't know obviously because they laughed. They thought you maybe you did go or maybe Shane did go. They didn't know that you were the two people that did say no You know, Jessica Kurson went and she got criticized so much she gave her money away gave the money away. I think she gave What did she do with the money? Find out what she did, but I was like, o man Listen, those people that went to see Jessica Kurso, first of all, heard she murdered over there. She's very funny. She's a fucking dynamo. She's a killer on stage. Very entertaining, lovely lady, a love her to doesust. She had fun to talk to She fucking murdered over there, I heard. So a lesbian woman from New York. went to Saudi Arabia donates Riyad Cedy Festival fee to human rights campaign. All that money is going to someone's payroll. Yeah. It's going to be a daycare salary. may better. Yeah, you feel better. But meanwhile, someone it's paying for someone's salary that's probably not fixing homelessness or whatever the f it is. That's what they do. Tom SZagirro went and put a photo of a Ferrari and said, thanks, Saudi Arabia. Yeah. Everybody was very upset, but my perspective is the people that are in that audience, if you're upset of the people that are paying and organizing, okay The people that are in that audience though, that they're performing to, they don't get a chance to see American stand upp comedy. and they're getting a chance to see it live. and stand up comedy, like music, like literature It changes people's minds. It changes all art where you see someone a different person than you with a totally different perspective that lives on another side of the world that says something that you think is hilarious and you love. It changes You know It changes people's perspectives. You win hearts and minds. I mean, that's real. L you can change the world a little bit by getting people to say, hey, we kind of are we all have a lot of shared interests. We just want to have fun. We just want to be with our friends, be with our family and do what we want to do. everyverybody wants that, includluding those people in the audience. those people in the audience in Saudi Arabia were just Saudi Arabian citizens. They're just a bunch of people that lived there. that came out to see comedy performing in front of them I mean What is wrong with that It's was It's wrong. You're supposed to boycott it because the people that run it probablyrobably were involved with the killing of Jamal Khashogi in some way or the people that finance it. Okay Maybe I see how you didn't want to do it and I see how a chain didn't want to do it and I probably probably wouldn't want to do it either. but I don't have any problem with people doing it Be I think at the end of the day, you're just like I don't have any problem with Saudi Arabia putting on these boxing matches that I talked about. I love that they put on these boxing matches. And oddly enough, that's not really criticized that much. even by like heavy duty left wing MMA media, which is a real thing There's a lot of like. shit liibbs that are MMA media just because they're journalists And they just happen to be fans, but they have that like hardcore left wing perspective. don't seem to have that much of a problem with it. Not like people have the problem with the comics over there where guys like Louis and Bill Burr, they used to get Destroyed for that. Yeah It's nuts But I think Sigura had the right move. J. Don't even pay attention. Fuck off I'm gonna perform wherever I want to perform You know Yeah. No, makes sense. totally I just can't go straight from a Trump rallied to Saudi Arabia, a little bit of a hop of skip and a jump I know. It's also it's like Is that what you want to do? I don't want to go there. It's too long. Right. So It want to be on a plane for sixteen hours to go anywhere. Yeah. why? I hate it I hate flying. Yeah, fuck off. it's terrible Come to Texas. Yeah. Yeah, Eactly It's just we live in a very polarized society. and I think a large part of that is what we were talking about earlier with social media and mentally ill people just just screaming into the fucking void every day I just would like to suggest to people Just try not to engage like that for a month and see how much better you feel Yeah. just try. talk and make friends. And hopefully that's not how you've set up your life where you have to do that for a living. Hopefully, you're not one of those people because there are people that are paid posters and they make a pretty good living. just posting and getting engagement. Well I don't know what to tell you. You're trapped. R You know, if your whole thing is like shitting on people all day long, you're kind of trapped. Yeah There' No way. No There's no way. It's like the amount of cortisol that must be pumping through your body all day where you're going over And I see like people that do that, I see how they get destroyed in the replies. And I'm like and I know they're reading that Good Lord. ye I don't know how Gavin Newsom is still alive. Every time he posts something, the way he gets destroyed in those comments is like Fucking insane No one is happy. It's just the funniest thing because it's he reminds me of like one of the last actual politicians. Like he's a different just lying ignoring of facts type of human being Because we're witnessing it. Maybe it's easy for someone in uh I don't know, New Hampshire to go. Ah, that gvin Newsom's the future. We lived in California and I've been to San Francisco recently and we've seen it. Like when you travel You know, comedians aren't the end all be all in these wise whatever sages, perhaps, but we do travel a lot and you spend a weekend in a city and you're not just doing your shows, you're having lunch somewhere you're having coffee somewhere, you're dealing with the people at the hotel lot, whatever it may be. There's different communications and vibes and energies And there's so many of these places, especially California you know, San Diego' like a last stand. Huntington Beach is an area around there. There's like These little pockets in which there's still some common sense and happiness enjoy Newport, these little pockets Those major cities are fucked man. E the drive and you know, I go to LA basically maybe once a year now for a quick Al fun visit, always doing some arena and a couple nights at the store, which is different, unfortunately. The drive from LAX to that area of West Hollywood slash Beverly Hills is Bruce Everything is for lease Everything is empty. Um There's nothing new except for the crazy looking weird ass Obama Museum library, which is the craziest weirdest eye soar Humanly imaginable. Where's that? It's like on the way up there. I can't remember if it's like off of La Sienega or Fair. That's not the new one. Be the new one is in Chicago, isn't it Oh it is What's the fucking? they built something that looks just like that on straw. Now the one in Chicago, peopleeople don't like it. I think it looks dope It looks like It looks like something from Blade Runner. yeah I liked it A lot of people don't like but it costs a lot of money. cost like eight hundred and fifty billion dollars. So you can find out what that building looks like Sh me a photo of something that Ts just like that building. Who did the Obamas? Yeah What is the the one in Chicago A lot of people were criticizing it and I saw I go, that thing looks dope I love it Like that thing. Where is it? Yeah, the one there where your cursor is. cllick on that. that's a rendering I was not done I saw people were in it. What's it down there in the lower showed this online and everyone was going crazy. I thought people were already going to it Um I think that's that looks like a rendering to me. That looks fake as fuck. But that one down there, that one down there with the darkness in the corner Yeah, right there. Is that real? I think that's a real photo I think it's done I might be wrong But Lets see if it You have Los Angeles, Chicago Yeah, it's real. So it's up But I think it looks cool It's different P peopleople are saying it's ugly. It looks like see if we can find photos of it. Go to images Yeah, it here we go like there Dude, I think that looks dope Really? Yeah. that Yeah. window lif. Look at how all's are writing on the top, what does it say Go all the way up, please Oh Unconstrained Convention by what It's written on two sides Oh right Oh, goes all the way around it. Oh, that's fucking cool. I think that looks cool I mean, maybe I have no taste I mean, we can't even find an angle of what they're trying to say there Right. I don't know what it's saying, But I think it's cool that they did that that they had words that go across like that I just think it looks sick But I like that kind of brutalist architecture, I think that's what they call it. Yeah. I like that kind of cool cement with big glass like There's a lot of houses like that, especially like in the Hollywood Hills that I love I looked at one of them B when I was starting to make that cheddar. And I was like, maybe I should live in Hollywood and then I could just do the store right there. but I was like Probably not that safe. I looked at the house above the store that Mitsy was selling What was on Colfax? Was that what it was? Was that those street? It was the comic store, the comic house where like Kinnison stayed there and Pauly lived there for a while. But I had dogs and I was like, this is not enough backyard. It's too small. And also it was like, it's too close to the machine. Yeah. It's like right next to the beast. L I don't know if I want to be like right next to the beast. I think I'd rather be outside the beast and go visit. Yeah. Like that for me, for my head But I looked at a couple of houses up there One of them was this house that was like really was out of my budget really. I was just, I shouldn't have been looking at it ten million bucks and it had crazy like likeike concrete with massive windows, but it was There on the street Like you're walking on the street. there's a sidewalk. you could rean over and touch the front door of the house. I was like, ye, this is kind of crazy to buy this house. And the guy was like, don't worry we have state of the art security system. So I go, yeah, you know what that is? I go, your camera are going to catch a guy with a ski mask robbing you And two weeks after I said that, the guy who in the house got shot in. Whoa. twowo weeks. got shot in the neck, Fx Yeah So Hey, That's these places, man. But the that kind of architecture, I think is dope I like like the crazy modern cement stuff But for a house Like what you're going to live in, the reality is, you'd probably be like, I'm sleeping in a museum. This is too weird. Yeah. I'd rather just have a regular house. Yeah Windows are a necessity. Yeah I just want to see stuff. I just want to be able to have a cup of coffee and see some trees Let me just sit down and Fucking collect my thoughts for the day You know? necessarily need to be in a fucking museum Concrete asked It's there's something weird about it. It's like you're too weird If you live like that, you're weird, Ben You're living with this giant twenty foot high glass wall in front of you that looks out at the blade runner scape that is Los Angeles from the hills. Have you seen that view at night? Have you ever been up to a house? yeah? this house? Oh, that's sick. I love that house. It's known as like the Oakley Founder' house. I don't know if he still owns it. Yeah, that's up there. Yeah. That house I love. See, if I was single and a baller, that's where I would live. two hundred ten million A bargain Fucking love that shit. I see shit like that. I'm like, oh my God, that's where it. I love it But I don't want to live there for real I think after a while, you wouldd be like, I'd rather have a log house I' trying to find pictures of Kanye's concrete house I just love those kind of houses that look like that. Especially that one, that circular one The way you pull into that driveway and the entire back house faces the lights and you see the lights Like it's hard to see from photos of how look how sick that looks, man. That's sick I love that The lights from that, like if you're up in the hills, you want to be above looking down and it's like a movie. It's like a sci fi movie. It's one of the coolest fucking views I've ever seen. Holly has the fucking as crazy as it sounds, that motherfucker. when he made it, he bought a house that's on top top, top, top, top of the Hollywood Hills with that MTV money It's crazy. He remodeled it recently. when I was there for the festival. he's like, dude, you gott to come see the house. comeome see the house. I'm like, Polly, I'm so busy Very highly unlikely. comeome, see the house. Dude, you gott to come to the house. Sure enough, I went there one afternoon for a fucking coffee Bro. It is crazy. He was right. He's got the house. He did it. It's on top of everything. So there's if if a robber does try to go up there, they're robbing someone else's house. They don't want to go to the tippy top of the fucking hill. That's a tough escape That's the problem with the escape. Yeah. You want to be close to the bottom. Right so you can Right. Speaking of which, I've been watching I got I went down a rabbit hole the other day on YouTube where street racers. And there's this one guy who is like a famous street racer because there's all these videos of him. He got his things set up where he can shut the lights off. He's got this black Corvette I'm gonna send this to you Jamie Yeah, his name is really slow R Y L S LO Um, and he's got videos these cop encounters. so they like baits cops. and then goes on these mad runs And you watch it, you go holy shit, I love it Yes, this is the dude Yeah, so about. Yeah, this is well, he's like a legend online because he does interviews only with a voice changer whereches voice and b like that. where he describes all the modifications that he did to his car He puts a three D camera on the back of his car. An you know, they have those things where you stick it on the back of your car. And it gives you a three D view of the automobile and he has video of the cops like flashing their lights His car has got a thousand plus horsepower So these poor cops and they're like three hundred horsepower fucking crown Victoria, they try to chase this guy. he just disappears. And then once he gets out of the line, like go back to that video where it was before, watch this I mean, it this is it's just edited. It's not his videos. it's just so much I understand. But if you just I know this video But if you what he does is they start pulling him over And in the beginning when they pull him over, he hits the gas and then shuts his lights off. Did you pass that? Here it is. This is it So They hit the lights and he's like, S ya Are they going to show it? Yes, this is not the Okay. it's not the compilation. So when he does it and he hits the gas. he gets Here it is. He gets far enough away from them, they're not showing that These motherfuckers. They have to edit their own shit. Leaving it alone is better. So he gets ahead of everybody and then just he has a button where it kills his headlights. and he's using night vision.. Yeah. It's nuts. So is this it? Yeah does the enters Ghost mode here? Yes, this is it. So this is this guy. So his license plate says will run Like it'sake it's a fake license plate. The cops get it behind him. they hit the lights and he goes bye And the cops realize there's no way to catch this guy. It's not look at that. lights go out and he's gone And he's flashing lights on people to get them the fuck out of the way and there's no way to catch him. And then He bangs U turns, he knows where he's going. he plots it out And the thing is he's filming this and uploading it So he's got to hide his identity through how many different channels. How does Instagram not know who he is? How is he posting I guess he's using a VPN, he's probably using a proxy and he's probably going through some other country or something. if he's smart. If he's smart enough to avoid detection, He just has these fucking crazy car bills. likeike he's got a Calvo Viper that has like I mean, I don't know how many horsepower that thing has. But they make some of these Cvo Vipers. It's a company here in Texas They make vipers that have two thousand horsepower What ike fuck are you talking about? Isbody know where? Does he always do it in the same. I think he's in the Dallas area Well yeah, well, not good if you kill somebody but it's Very spooky Yeah Yeah It's nut San because this fucking dude really knows how to drive too And you see these poor cops and one of them, the cops wipe out. They slamm into another car. and they're trying to pass by these cones and the road cuts off and the cop hits the cones then loses control of his car and slams into another car. So like people can fuckking die especially If he runs a red light and he runs a lot of them And someone's being an idiot Maybe someone's doing exactly what he's doing while he's running the red light. Dude, you have to see what Kanye is doing right now. It's a historical moment in all of Yeah, you said the he's standing on the globe, right? Well, not only that He the entire everything is a super production. And it's all him. Like you could tell he's made every decision and tweaked everything to the color of everything, to when it happens, to how it happens, that it's not too much. He's not overwhelming the senses with lasers and lights and all of this. It's all so strategic But most importantly It's first of all, it's the fucking greatest production I've ever seen of anything. And I come from Pink Floyd Land, where the live show has to be ahead of its time and state of the art and everything for my mind to be blown And I was expecting this to be like every other rap concert that I've seen, which is going to be fun and good and maybe great. Of course, it'll be great, but this was like a thousand times my expectations Because first of all, he's doing pop up shows at stadiums, which is crazy. He announces it a week or two in advance and the stadium's like, okay, we're sitting empty that night. We love to sell beer and water and get a percentage of merch, right? How these venues work? They don't give a fuck. He's not promoting it everyveryone else that's been to one or seen one is promoting it. And then the mayor of whatever city or whatever leftist person, whether it be the governor of that state or whatever,'s like, this shouldn't be happening. So they're promoting it for him and it's filled to the top of the fucking stadium whereas even Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones or whoever announces a tour all at once and goes, Hey, buy tickets. I'm on tour, prettyre please come Right He's just like San Antonio, july fourth. Bom a week ago literally And what's crazy is that my buddy got me tickets to go see him in Tampa because as All we knew is that he was going to Tampa And so there there I was and I'm looking and it's filled to the top and the floor is filled and he doesn't stop. He doesn't take a break. There it is. I saw that on Instagram after his first one that he did. I think it was in LA. and I'm like, Ohh, that's crazy. I need to see this That is nuts, That stage is nuts. But these pictures and videos do not do any justice to what is happening sound wise, energy wise. Just that stage alone is fucking insane. It's crazy and he enters at the he walks through the crowd because obviously it's in the round He comes out and you hear a pop from one side because they can kind of see him. And then the globe turns on and you know, he waits until it's dark. So he is he enters one point. And then inside is a Um, a lift that only takes him so like there's no one that can storm that stage or anything because it's inflatable on the outside. So it's an impossible impossible to you know, storm the stage or anything like that And he's the only one that has access to the lift obviously. and he has a tether he's attached to so he doesn't go off or anything. Sot fall into the balloon. Exactly. And it is the most diabolical show I've ever seen in my entire life ever. And that includes all the fucking everything. And again, I come from the School of Pink Floyd, which is always ten, twenty years ahead of its time production wise And this was nuts because he does not stop. He does not take a break. He doesn't go thank you guys for coming out until the very end in which he goes, it's all about love. I love you guys. Thanks for sticking with me all these years when all these people said this. And then by that point two and a half hours in when he's saying that, you're just like You gotta be fucking kidding me. When we realize the bulk of his work, how many bangers that guy has It's Nuts Bangers I as an experiment took my one buddy who said that you know, part of the group was my one friend who has always been like, I don't know, you fucking love Kanye. I mean, not really my thing. but he's just not really a rap fan, is the reality So I invited him on this trip and his mind was fuc Now he's a die Hard Kanye fan. Now he's going back and You know realizing that He's always been a Kanye fan. Like it's such a crazy fucking thing because not only does he have hits on hits on hits but he does not stop in between songs because some of his beats kind of correlate or this and that He'll literally just keep going and going and going until his amazing On his new album, he has this keyboardist with one of those like crazy blowing two tube instrument things. I don't know what it's called And he has a solo, a big one on one of the songs, which is gives Kanye a minute and a half to catch his breath, an hour and a half into non Stop going And also on top of all that, you know, a rap concert's a rap concert. Pakanye is the greatest producer of all time in that industry every noise that's happening, even if he's not talking or singing or rapping into a microphone is all him and him only you know what I mean? Like he might get an idea or an inspiration as weve talked about, or he's a master of sampling. old hit songs and having them be in the backbone of the thing and everything. This was it's just a whole notother level.amn Absolute insanity. Like I thought I was gonna go there and be like, Yeah, and maybe, you know, move a little bit or sing along or whatever. And instead my jaw was dropped the entire time. Is there anybody that ever bounced back from being canceled like him? And that's really the underlying thing. There's this feeling of loyalty that's there. and We're right You know what I mean? There's a feeling that everybody there is like there Correct Does that make sense? Yeah. I saw a breakdown of it because my algorithm' feeding me kanye stuff nonstop since I went to it because somehow fucking Instagram knows and whatever. And I watched a breakdown of it talking about how like it's like this psychiatrist or energy specialist or something that's talking about how and why this is the craziest concert ever done before And she breaks it down and goes p that Kanye. believe in themselves. because If Kanye saying, I'm the greatest, I'm the man, I'm a God, all of these things makes you not like him and you insecure, You're insecure Does that make sense? Like it's like he if that turns you off to somebody, then you don't really like yourself that much Why do you think that Well, again, this was someone else's psychological breakdown of it and I'm probably not explaining it correct because I was stoned I can see what they would be saying to try to defend him, but There's some people that just get turned off by that kind of braggadocious rap music I don't I love that shit I love nineties hip hop talking about how great they are I love it I'm a giant fan of that shit. Yeah. You know, I think like some of my favorite rap lyrics, like some of Naz's lyrics just him talking about how he's the shit. Yeah Totally I don't mind it at all. But it's like It's when you're singing along to that stuff and you're listening to that stuff, like you're feeling what that guy's feeling when he's saying it. And if his raps are h if his rhymes are really hitten Eespecially like Kanye or any of the gres, you know, bigiggie Tupac, Nas, like when they're nailed, it's like. Oh my go Yo Good lyrics and good execution It's a fucking amazing art form, even if USA really did create it It want to believe that. You know, I think theyre probably very they promoted it. What's really interesting is the lack of big rock and roll bands. I know Jamie's kind of defended this, but I think it's a fact. No no no doubt. There's less big rock and roll bands than when we were a kid. When we were a kid, rock and roll was everything. It was like rock and roll. if you likeed rock and rap, like you were a weirdo You know Like I really became a rap fan Like almost like silently, like secretly 'causeuse you gott to be a rock fan. If you love rock music and you went to rock concerts like that's all you liked. But I was like, yeah, but this is good too. Oh yeah. know, I'd like listen to gheto boys. I'd be like, you gotta listen to this. Come listen this. S shit is awesome Oh, my range is absolutely ridiculous. Wh green room. I just got Roy Orbison on vinyl. Oho. Oh yeah. pretty. Oh my go.. And again, that's one we're gonna be in trouble for that Fg. Fun And again, pretty woman, much like Pink Floyd's Wish were here is like one of my when you get into their radio stuff, it's kind of funny how some bands and musicians get like typecasted by their hit. Whereas like P pretty womoman's kind of repetitive and easy, even though it's a jam Right? M but his other songs that like I hadn't even heard before because I'm like This guy seems like he has some fucin. some hits and he does, man And u What I mean by the pink Floyd thing is it always fascinated me that People go, Ohh yeah, I like pink Floyd wish you were here, another brick in the wall and it's like, damnit It's because those are the radio songs because they can't play an eleven minute long shine on you crazy Diamond. R All their real hits that their real echoes, which is like seventeen minutes and goes slow and fast and bluesy and then jazzy and this and that Yeah, there were so many songs like that, especially from like the seventies where they just took wild chances and long ass songs. Like famously Freebird like record executives are telling them like the beginning of it is too slow. Yeah And they're like, Nope, this is the song. Exactly. This is what it is Bohemian H City. Yep. There's another one. Yeah. Who whole lot of love. Yeah. Wh whole lot of love is a minute and a half of fuck sounds.. And cymbols and shit. It's weird. I only recently got to see the Queen movie, whatever that is Bohemia rhapsody. Whatever do you so. Whatever they call. I haven't seen it Yeah. well, I walked in on a part where It's the rec they're at the record executive's office. And he's going, this can't be the main single off of this thing. And and Freddie Mercury's like, dude, it fucking has and I'm obviously not quoting this. but And the record execs like, man, you're saying gibberish at points. It's slow with a piano. You're saying things that don't even make sense and it's fucking eight minutes long. Like what are you thinking? And they're arguing back and forth and back and forth And his bass player, guitarist or one of the guys that's in the meeting with this record exec sitting behind a big fancy desk points at the wall and goes, So you were the record exec that made this, huh? And he points at Dark S sideide of the moon. And you see the record exec go Because what the fuck was that? It starts with a heartbeat has no words for the first what, however long. Also, what is the deal with it aligning with the Wizard of Oz easy. Roger says it's coincididental I know. But it seems like the universe organized it. Yeah. It almost seems like evidence of the simulation.. 'cause it's so good. The way it lines up. Yeah, it's too good. I've always said it's the craziest coincidence of all times It's evidence of the simulation There's something about it. There's evidence of like some weird bizarre synchronicity between those two pieces of art prodroucing that would have been near impossible impmpossible. Not that you couldn't, but so anning and so things out. Yeah technology then would have been so Yeah, so hard I think Floyd would have had to they would have literally have to watch it and then go over each beat. And decide how high was the person that figured it out to Right Right and discuss but like ye, how do you notice that hold on. Is it it's it's still going. Right. forty five minutes.ight. But meanw, it's perfect Like, we've watched it before. pererfect. The lyrics are the scariest part. whichich one is wit at one point when only when the only moment when both the good witch and the bad witch are there? Yeah, it's nuts The wildest one to me is always when she's balancing on the thing, you know, in black and white and with the other farmers around and on the run that crazy blah, bl, bl, bl, bl, bl bl starts and she falls off at that exact moment chaos is happening. It's crazy. Is there a why in that? conspiracy, you know, like why would they have done that to do it Just for funzies. because they were paying Yeah. lot of other mo you could have picked. Well, I mean, Roger Waters says it was an accident. I know I'm just saying like I know, I know. but the conspiracy theorists. I don't know. I mean, I would imagine they think that I brought The people that believed that it was some sort of a coordinated conspiracy It's like, why would' they say that Why wouldn't they just say we lined it up with The Wizard of Oz? Yeah, if they said that, it would make more people watch it and more people listen. They did pretty good off of it. Yeah. They did pretty good Who were we to give them advice? Yeah. Speaking of doing pretty good, you're fucking killing it, dude. Congratulations. Thank you Bud. It's awesome. Watch it all. Thank you, man. You're taking all the hits.. Keep on moving. keep on trucking. just makes it stronger. Ono the next one. Makes the jokes better. newew jokes are killing it. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. We're having a good time. Yeah. Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the best working them out at the motherh. Yes, sir All right, I appreciate your brother. Thank you man. Oh yeah. Bebody
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