Ecological Imbalance and Invasive Species

Joe Rogan, Experience. Tin my day, Joe Rogie podcast by night. All day What Good see you.. We were just talking, sorry, I had a pause, Jamie before the podcast. So you were telling me that LeBron James is not going to go back to the Lakers. How old is he now?ty ty one. Yeah What is the oldest that elite athlete has been? Tom Brady' forty four, I think, NFLQB. That'd be pretty high up there. How How was Kareine. That's a good question. How was C Kareine when he retired. Bernard Hopkins I think would be the next. Bernard Hopkins is number one. Yeah, Bernardin. We were talking about how he beat Kelly Pavlich forty. But Berard had a couple of years to Inubating a little bit. Oh yeah. Well you know about that. Yeah. notot take damage and steal up the mind. He He had the most intense discipline. That guy never got out of shape, which is also a giant contributor to longevitor. Never never was building back. you know, He wasn't like a forty two year old who was like You know, he took six months off. I haven't been in the gym. No but no, no, no. It every day. it was running, nutrition, everything was always on point. never varied. Fam was like forty two, I think. So he might be the oldest of the past guys, but this was before all the science, right? Yeah science changes things. science So we were just talking about the science. So Jamie, what are they allowed to take and not allowed to take It's like the NBA used to like I think for like weed stuff, they used to say that like they'd get tested I think like october first, which is like right when preseason starts per weed? Yeah. And so like if as long as you were clean on october first, then you're good because they wouldn't test the rest of the year. That's ridiculous. But now like I know in the NFL, if you have a crazy game, you're going to get tested the next day They're just going to check you for What was going on with you yes. Yeah, Why would you play good I don't think the NBA does that specifically, but I don't know Honestly. So what are the rules in the NBA in terms of marijuana now? I thought that was part of the thing that they negotiated in the contractact to make sure because a lot of players like to be high when they play they might just have justopped I wanted to mention names But I'm friends with some guys and they tell me they can't play unless they're high That's the same thing with pool players. I know a lot of pool players. They like to get lit before they get on the table. Yeahool pool you should be lit playing. Yeah, you feel things better. Here we go. NBA can randomly drug test each player up to four times during the season and two times in the offseason with additional tests allowed anyt timee there is reasonable cause But marijuana is no longer part of the standard testing panel. Yes, sir Yeah, so they can smoke weed, Which makes sense. Let them It's not what are you doing It's not hurting anybody and they play better with it Leave them alone. That's what I think Unless they're doing? Unless they're doing math Must know you know what I mean? They also had another big betting scandal has kind of broken recently. twenty four hours there. Oh no.ur player has been called out for throwing at least four games And then where that's gonna go from here is kind of being speculated online. I'll tell you where that goes. If people find out that goes to bullets That's the problem. The problem with someone throwing a game is somebody bet on that fucking game A lot of people bet on cases I've seen though are like the overse like they had player props and like he needed four point five rebounds and he has four and he's just trying extremely extremely, extremely hard to get that extra rebound whichich is like wrong. Wait that bad. That means he's playing well. And the other one, which was he was fixing a spread at like in the last second. like he sprinted down the court to get an extra basket with like three seconds on the clock when they were down by ten or seven technically beat the eight and a half points spread Yeah, but so what? is's just scoring How can you ever It's just's when you watch basketball enough, you go like that doesn't happen that often. whyy would you do that? like look. Yeah, especially. Yeah you used to people throwing the ball and just throwing it down there. not you running down I know, but if you can do it in score, why wouldnt you do it? I don't even understand why anybody would question that. You down by ten. It's five seconds to go. they game want that ball in the net. you man No Why? Because That's not going to change. o we lost by eight But just means if you're competitive to the end. You never give up and even though you know you're losing. and no starters on the floor at this time You down by ten's five seconds ago. No no star is on. Yeah, But how but it's not like he's missing on purpose. So it's one thing if the guy' like missing on purpose. but if he's scoring on purpose, finally leave him out I'll along. All right. It's a similar thing World Cup just happened like two, three nights ago where They just got under the knockout round, you know, so that the big tournament was every team plays three games to figure out where you figure where you end up. the next part of the tournament, ten teams get eliminated. Third place teams for the first time ever can make it through. And so there was I think it was Algeria and I forget the other team, sorry If they both tied They both move through. If one team wins and one team loses, one team goes through And then they're like F minutes to go in the game They're kind of just passing the ball around. the score is tied and one team goes ahead and scores And it kind of starts to fight on the field where you see the other team yelling at the other team like you like I don't know exactly what they're saying, but like what like went in was like two minutes to go The other team sort of just stops playing defense and kind of seems to like let them score. Oh God. It's like is that a big collusion or if they just were like a b man. How don't they have mics on those guys? It's such a They have to have mics on somebody. They have strong mics now and they have people that can lip read They could pick up. Hey, mother fuck are you supposed to leave this a tie? Yeah. If that happens, like you can't play anymore, right? Like what happens to those guys? They have to get suspended for That'd be the entire that'd be both teams, the coaches, It'd be everybody I don't know I don't really know how it's going to pan out, but it was very Nund drum How could you do that Like I hate that. This is what this what I don't like about sports betting, not that because that's about advancing, but about sports betting is the even the consideration that a person is playing a certain way because they're worried about a spread or because they've been paid off to not score or they've been paid off to foul you know, like there's The problem with these things is you could bet on anything. You can bet on anything. Any. anythingthing. So if you're a crooked and What has been like the most crooked aspect of the fucking human race over the past like one hundred years other than the legal system The most crooked aspect has been sports betting. It's always crooked. Sports and politics. Pitics. They damn there. They're all the same. Yeah, they the same. It's the same. It's money. It anytime there's money involved and decisions can be shifted, influence can be used to make something happen. But it seems like that with most things that people, you know, have some type of you know, hierarchy desire for they they hundred percent they going put something in You know, like, even with like awards in games, this is a Wh can promote the best and who can If you can take all the people Tw dinner in you know smz them at dinner. it's gonna be a, um thing with who's going to beat you when you have all the voters? Or you have a situation where you have people that work for your company that can vote And saying whoo How are you not going to vote for the project that the company put out? Right Yeah. You know, we got sixty voters, you know? So we at least got sixty votes This episode is brought to you by Cate, the leading brand in creatine. 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Save time and meet great candidates sooner with Zip Recruiter. four out of five employers who post on Zip Recruiter quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at ziprecruiter d. com slash Rogan. That's ziprecruiter dot com slash Rogan. meet your match on Zip Recruiter. I think you said it best when you said the hierarchy That's really what it is. It's in anything that has any kind of a hierarchy Politics is the ultimate example. Politics is the ultimate ultimate example. But there's that hierarchy shit in everything in the world Everything It trips people up. But with politics It is little more detrimental than with sports. You know, sports sports is, you know, you gambling, people trying to win things, but with politics, it's like if youre not Somebody that's not qualified can be in a position where You know, they making decisions on on the masses of people's lives. Not just that. they can appoint judges which is they can appoint crazy judges. Like these's obviously judges like they have disputes. but why do they have disputes because they're ideologically captured on both sides There's people that are like, you know like certain right wing judges. you throw someome case out there that's a right wing case. abortion rights, whatever it is immigration, you know how they're going Yeah. sameame thing with left wing people Like hardcore left wing people, you guarantee trans women in sports, trans women or women Let play in sports. That was a recent Supreme Court order. Three judges said that trans women should be able to play in women's sport. The rest of them said, fuck no. The other six cancellled it out ugily You know, those people are not taking to account. the sport. Like it's a it's a difference if you are was originally something and now you playing is something else Your strength is different And you know, you don't feel that until your daughter get knocked out of the rain which she's supposed to be boxing somebody that's the same gender then now she's her all side of face broke from you know. It's insane. It's insane. And it's not cruel to not let that happen in sports. That's what Title nine is about in the first place give women the opportunity to play in an equal time as men. Good thing Having men that think they're women play with women is fuc craz Like what do we it doesn't mean, you know, you need to castle people out of society. It doesn't mean ain't that you Live and love live. I agree Get the fuck out of the women's room. Yeah You have a dick. Get the fuck off the team. You're you're running track at a literal a women's Olympic level and you're fifteen. Youy? Because you have a dick. This is crazy. You're not really a girl. This is nuts. Yeah that's it That's the world we live in. and what' I'm not even gonna to say that's the world we live in. That's the world that's being presented to us at this point. that That's right you know, and it's You know, it's a lot of things it's like this, man. you This is why in comedy, I choose not to go the current the current affair or the political route Be I don't have time to separate the room. I'm too busy trying to do things to bring the room together And that's more of a righteous aim for me Well, you I said this before, I'll say it live publicly. What you've done is very extraordinary because you've made a giant following online completely organically. It's very inspiring because all you do is just do your thing the best that you can and put it out there and it just keeps growing It's amazing It's very, it's very cool. It's very inspirational And it's you should be proud of it because What you've done, like I said, it's totally organic. Like you don't have a bunch of production companies pushing you and trying to make you more popular than you are. No it's all just Putting it out there and getting this gigantic following just from your work. Yeah. Just the work. Appreciate it. And then, you know, even with that, you still have Oh some type of responsibility to not see things the same as other people. I just got all this flack about me talking about the how is business of people inflating things has caused depression in comics. You know, that we' supposed to be a a happy craft. But now it's this big push about if you're not on social media, you're not on this, you're not on this. A lot of these comics are you know, going through this mental health thing where they always sad about their numbers or, you know, or this thator like, yo, man, it is u and some people inflate things and everybody wants to be on the same level. So sometimes you you can't be where you can peopleeople look at it as a certain way well when you're proud of the steps that you've taken An If I play in the G League That's not the NBA So I wouldn't say that I was playing I played in the league because I know what the league means. I know You know, I know this says this the G League When I present myself, yo, you know, I play in the leeague. People automatically think the NBA, you know, it's not it's not The G League is not knocking the G League, but that's not the first thing that comes to my mind You know , you know, it's just a Paying for the Washington Genals is not the NBA Even though you played against the Glob Trotters, they were great players But we know how this game goes, but people that's how people see things now Well, the number things is real. The numbers thing is a real problem with people because it gives you quantifiable measure of whether or not you're doing well And if you already have anxiety, which a lot of comedians have You're already like socially awkward, which a lot of comedians are you don't feel accepted, a lot of comedians feel. And then you look at those numbers four hundred I only have twenty four hundred dollars I've been doing comedy for seven years. Why do I only have twenty thousand four hundred follows? Th then you go to someone's page that you'd never even heard of and have one point two million. You're like, What the fuck? And and so This is about being grateful in the position that you are in. I remember when they were P peopleople was pushing me you need to get on the internet, you need to be on social media to be okay But I would see those people that had all those followers And that same year The year before that I did a half hour special comomedy Central In year twenty eighteen, I did a full hour spepecial Comon Central I had, um five hundred followers on Instagram. I had three hundred followers, three hundred subscribers on YouTube on a page that I didn't own. had to get this page. I had less people on Facebook but I was officient in what I was doing So the numbers didn't They didn't pick me because I had these numbers. They picked me because came and I did what I did and then they oh, he's he's great. So then we we started going, you know, a route to build it up But we were already getting things prior to the numbers. Right. What year is this again? This is seventeen and eighteen. Okay. so the difference is that in seventeen and eighteen, people were just starting to be aware of the power of social media and then they were really concentrating on different comics that had a large social media following. You know, I think that was like right when it first started happening. Dan Cook had blew up before that. That was a Yeahah, that was a my space. That was a my space internet another internet true That's true. That was different. But the difference is like he had gotten so huge justust from that that he was already doing like arenas. Yeah. when they So he was already huge and then they just went with him. like But he was like super popular. Now it's like super popular on social media is one of the most important things So now now moving up to this because I have a strong argent with this. I have million followers here, million followers there, all these specials. I still didn't getting invited to the BT awwards I still didn' get I still don't get invited to a bunch of things. I still get looked over for things even though I have numbers and success, but I don't worry about it. I'm just in my I'm not watching to judge myself against what somebody else is doing. It's guys who have less everything, they're in this in this round where they they had every they had everything. I see guys as that everything with no Oh No specials and no pro. They around And I'm like, okay. but it's I'm not I think the point that I'm not judging myself up against what somebody is doing socially. But that's also easier when you're successful and you're successful. You're very successful. So the difference is like when you sell out these shows and you put out these specials, like I've seen your specials, have millions of views. So it's like obviously you have a following. If you didn't and you were doing the same thing, then it would be a problem But then also that would it's like Comedy in a lot of ways, not always, but in a lot of ways is a meritocracy If you're good People will come. It's that simple Night is here, title shots, debut killers and the rising contender. noobody's talking about yet and only Draft Kings has you covered every step of the way. The Draft Kings app is now available in all fifty states and includes all markets, bringing the gamame straight to your fingertips wherever you are. no matter where you're watching, you're always connected and in the game with one app New Draft Kings customers sign up with Code Rogan spend five bucks to get two hundred in rewards within twenty one days. That's Code Rogan in partnership with Draft Kings The crown is yours. 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You have fifty people more Th then if you didn't play the role, what I' saying? Be Who knows you in Utah? You' it's a building thing. Like I got all of this all of this going on. But if I go to Utah, I'm in a comedy club. It doesn't matter what happened the night before. I was just in an arena. But in Utah, it's like it takes me back to on trading places He said, Hey man, this is he gave he gave all this elaborate what this watch is. And that man said, this is what this calls in Saint Louis. like I don't care about you pawning the watch.. He saying So I don't have that. and I'm not If I'm It's like you you own a cub. Okay, it's guys that can come to your club and sell your club out And then it's guys that come in the club and you paper the room Okay, Then his guys Like when you're in the theater, some you can scale the theater down. Some theaters hold four thousand six hundred people, but you can scale it down to two thousand, but then The I'm not going to say if the room holds forty six hundred. two thousand tickets on sale. I didn't sell out the theater. I sold what I put on sale. what I'm saying? 'ause I'm not to the point where I can get the four thousand six hundred yet. If I could sell the room out then I would need to relish the real accomplishment versus the lesser accomplishment. Inflating. Yeah And that's And because I don't have this thing where I'm in competition with what happened before me. You know, so with other people? So I'm in San Antonio. We at we at the theater And because people can make you feel bad about anything. if you if you a person that feels bad. just thing Um Minnesota It's all these people that's on the team. that play for the Boston Celtsics that are millionaires. They already millionaires. They play in the league Boston traded Seven people to Minnesota for one person Ke' goingone in They got rid of seven human beings for one person. So it's like, if I was a person that felt bad about my career, this would make me feel bad. L they they like the first person that they they ask o, I'm a trade, this person for that. They're like, no. Well, I'm gonna give you two more people. they're like, no. And then I'm gonna give you four more people okay. in a lottery pick Okay. I' gonna feel horrible. They traded me for seven people. Yall don't even want me realistically. So Boston went. they got Kevin Garnet. I mean, what's Yeah, Kevin Garnet and seven other millionaires. They got all this money, this got all this they went to Minnesota It was saying. so If somebody wanted to make you feel bad about something You know, they they could if that's how you are. So I'm at I'm in San Antonio. The line is around the block The place is sold out. It's the same seell out no matter who comes to sol out. That lady said to my face tomorrow, You should have saw it when Matt Rife came In my mind, I was like, And I asked, I say, was it a different theater? She said, no, same theater So when Matt Wife came, he sold it out. I sold out two nights, I mean two days in the same night. But her thing was, you should have saw when Matt Wife came. I was like, okay, she probably wanted you to feel bad. I was like, but I'm not good for you. Well good for you, but the thing is a lot of people would. That's what it is. A lot of people are in competition with other people. I think you should be inspired by other people. You know, if you want to compete in that way, be inspired. But the moment you turn it into a negative, it's like, are you you're a fool. You're being a fool. Compete charity. Inspiration is power. It's fuel. If you see someone doing well, so you see someone set and you like it, that's fuel that makes you want to go work, makes you want to get some shit done, makes you it gives you energy. It. Or it could cripple you. If you're a dummy. If you're a dummy and you get angry and you get bitter and then you just put all this negativity on the person who's doing better than you, lot of people do That's that's that's a weird, that's a weird dynamics in this business when you know that 's going to be people No matter what you're doing is going to be somebody doing bet and you when I was in comedy clubs I remember being there and they were paper in the room Okay I wasn't saying I was selling out. They was paper or. I know out of all' three hundred people here. two hundred and forty of these people came because it was freeing they sent out the email blasts. But then what I looked at was They wanted to come. Yeah. They wanted to come. They're probably comedy fans, which is why they're on the email list in the first place. And then those people, you give them a great show, they'll come back. Then the next time I came They didn't pay for the room. They sold the tickets. That's how it used to be, man. That was the old days before social media. You would build a market. So you would just show up at Philadelphia once a year, show up Do your homework, like makeake sure you got a tight set. You've been practicing, you're ready to rock, fuck these people up and then leave And then they're like, can't waitil you guys are back again. And then next time you come back, you know, all right, I built an audience now. I can't disappoint these people. I got to get fired up And that's what it used to be. It used to be a totally organic thing across the whole country Is it a is it a thing Is it a difference in your opinion between Bringing audience to a been you from whatever other thing that I do versus people coming that don't know anything about me and be winning person over versus thes definly no Yeah., it's a different thing. You know, people are coming to see you specifically. you've already won them over. That's a different thing. They want to take a chance on you. That's a different thing because I've heard about you. But when you know That's a completely different thing because that's your you have an audience now. you have fans When you are just performing at a club and it's a papered room You have an opportunity you have an opportunity to turn these people into fans You have an opportunity to give these people a great night and have a good time. and also you're doing your fucking thing, which is the most important thing of all Everybody is results oriented. I try to be process oriented with everything I do. I'm process oriented. I think about There's a goal that you got to reach, but how do you get to that goal? The way the way you get there is not thinking about the goal. The way you get there is thinking about what you're doing. What's the process? The process is wrriting bits, performing them, tweaking them, getting them tight, knowing, reviewing tapes, going over your material, going over your writing, talking with friends. And then every day it gets a little bigger. Every day it gets a little better. Every day that knife gets a little sharpper That's the process. That's the process that leads you to become whoever whoever you are. And then you add other little pieces in that process. I I was talking to Bobby Lee and me and Bobby Lee talking, I said, Bobby, you don't realize where you met me at And he's like Well, it's just a it's going to be a good story as a bad story. I' getting a lot of bad stories. you met me at u at the Houston improv And they called me and asked me did I want to host A room that I already sell out M saying they asked me do I want to host? I said, cool So I came and I host it. And I was notot trying to, but I was destroying his feature I'm just hosting We should not be hosting and especially at the Houston improv. but my thing was this isz, this is Jazzcoo I say, Bobby, you don't understand when when I was hosting at the Houston improv. I was doing something. that most people didn't understand why I was even doing it. Well like and they would see like, why would you be hosting I said, because I'm not going to be in front of Bobby Lee's audience. But it's people that live in Houston that his audience that I have noa have no idea who I am. I say, Bobby, but before you, I say I was coming to the Houston Irov hosting for multiple people And I was just winning over fans that would never had seen me if they wasn't coming to see you. They wouldn't be coming to my show. I said so before that it was You were la, Bobby. It was You in the week prior to that It was Mster Bryie and the week. prior to that was u What's my girl? Angela Johathon Answer Johson. And before that, it was some random white guy. I say I just came And I want to do I'm a comic. So me hosting was no big deal. I wasn't working. So I say, well, let me just come hosted. That's what they want me to do So I gained fans from four different audiences. in a month So when I came back, they was like, yo I saw you with Miles Jibroni, and so I came back I came back to see you when you put your show up, I'm like, cool So my process, that was a part of my process. It didn't matter who I hosted for And then I'm like, okay cool You know, like let me let me go like when I host it for um Bill Burr Bill Burr's like This is crazy We in we in Austin at the paramount is And and I said I said the worst thing about this. was that at the time I was wearing all black. And I went to the show And when I walked on stage, the first thing I said is, hey I do not work here. don't like eight people ask me, whereere's the bathroom? I don't know. I don't workry. But it was like, I look like a usher. Like yo I was like, yo, this sucks, you know But it was a cool yeilarious. That's a smart approach. I mean, that's a great way to build Eespecially if you'reready headlin Yeah, I think I think that that thing about concentrating on the process People should try to apply that to everything you know, um My friend John Dudley, who taught me Achery. He's a big believer in that being process oriented. like as you get better at archery and he used to compete all over the world, travel, compete in archery tournaments I think that's I think that applies to everything. I think it applies to music. I think that applies to everything. The I think one of the things that trips people up about social media, A lot of these young guys in particular, young people in particular is that they are thinking about other people and they are comparing themselves to other people and they are looking at those numbers And you're looking you're spending all of your energy if you ha ant allotted one hundred units of energy in a day. You're spending a disproportionate amount things that don't empower you and actually kind of fuck your head up. Not good for you at all. instead of saying, wow, I am chasing the fucking dream R? I am out here being a professional comedian and I have a real chance to develop a real following. If I put my time in, I put my effort, I really care and I really work hard I could sell out a theater one day possible Like that's a goal. It should be a goal just like getting your PhD in chemistry or whatever the fuck it is your goal is. process is what's important The process is like appreciating what you're doing why you're doing it and just Bearing down and doing your best. That's it. That's it And other people, you look at them as inspiration. otherther people that are kick an ass You know, don't go don't become a hater. That shit is so bad for you I know so many dudes who have like hater tendencies and they never excel Never It's the counter thinking of an excellent person is a hater. Someone who' always trying to diminish people and downplay people and look at someone in the least charitable way in the worst possible way, does somehow they're trying to make themselves feel better. But it doesn't work. It does the opposite of work. It robs you It robs you of your self esteem, it robs you of your self respect. You're spending so much time thinking about this other dude. likeike why? It lot it's a lot of energy. and my dad, this one this is one story that I did not put in the special that I should have And Dad had all these these thoughts And he was I literally say he was a crazy man. but when you think about the things that he would say ense my dad. And why would you be telling me this at the age that but he just gave them. I think I was like eleven And my dad out of nowere to say, you know, I. Peoplend spend the same time and money on being fake when they can put that same time and money into being real Yeah. And I'm like, I didn't know, I understand what they meant Wait As I got older If you spend any money or time faking something you could probably spend that money and time being real Yeah about something. Yeah. you know, why go by a fake necklace act like you rich when you can go buy a real necklace. It was saying at some point It was and you know, be actually be rich, you know, if that's what if you you comparareing it to necklaces, but I just didn't understand it at the time, but then as I got older, I understood like, why put this why put this time in to pretending when you can put that same energy and then become real at what you do. It makes no sense. My uncle Vinny When I was Six or seven years old I was staying at his house with my cousins And we were we were supposed to brush our teeth. And I didn't like foollowing rules period And so I wouldn't brush my teeth. inststead, I would take toothpaste and smush it around on my teeth and so that when they smell my breath, they would smell toothpaste. And my uncle explained to me, he goes He goes I understand why you're doing it. He goes, but the amount of time that you're spending pretending to brush your teeth, you could have just brushed your teeth I thought about that when I was six, I was like, Damn I was a little kid but I was like He's right Why am I faking brushing? put on six years old I feel such My uncle Vin was like super patient, super calm out of all my family members. he was the strangest out of all these wild crazy Italian people. He was he was an artist and he was like very soft spoken and never got angry about anything. I'd always speak really rationally He's so smart. He's so peaceful. He just but the way he laid it out when he didn't say, Hey, I know you're not brushing your teeth, you little fuck. What's l that? It was the time you're spending pretending to brush your teeth. You could have just brushed your teeth. But it was like sometimes adults will say something to you like that when you're six And it just gets in your head and you're like, whoa Okay That just saved me a whole lot of time. I just brush them. Just brush your fucking teeth. Stop pretending, stop faking. It doesn't help anything It does the opposite. does the opposite. And you know, people The truth sometimes is hurtful to be The truth doesn't feel good you know to a lot of people, unfortunately. but You know, you have to look at it You have to have perspective, But that's the ultimate hate right there. That's the ultimate hate is for me to give you a falsehood instead of tell you the truth. Right? That's the ultimate it's the ultimate hate. Especially if like you're making a background for yourself You making up A story about your life that's not true. pretretending you're somewhere in life that you're not You know? No, man, just do the thing Just do a thing J but it's hard for people It's hard for people and then there's a lot of people that think you just fake it until you make it. And then you hear stories of this guy. I had five hundred dollars in my bank account told them I got this, I got that loan and next thing you know, my business is making all this money. And you go, wow, he faked it until he maked it. And it worked you think it doesn't most of the time. So few and far betweenine then they never tell you that that guy goes to jail later for fal. one hundred percent, a hundred percent. the fans busted mousees three years later and took everything. like, o. Exactly. Like when they arrested Carl Spencier recently So like all these counts of tax fraud, I was like, okay I don't want that to happen to him, but There it is Right? I mean that's what I I'm not laughing at C over the thing. I'm just laughing at the fact that you was like, yeah, yeah, when they busust the car I mean, I didn't I it didn't bring me any joy to see that. I don't like anybody getting arrested for taxes. think I think taxes Until they have an accurate account of where the fucking money goes to you completely eliminate all fraud and waste What the fuck are you doing locking people up for not paying taxes? Like you guys should get locked up for not doing a good job with our money. So what' you think about all the new purchases and redoing the White House All this with tax dollars Did they do it with tax dollars? Like how much money did they spend in tax dollars to do the ballroom? What's Let's find out. What's that u They need a ballroom, though That's how that guy snuck in with a gun because they tried to do that White House correspondence dinner in a hotel dude who got arrested few months back. What What's this this this resolution the Pool something full of algae right now that we spit on the. I don't know about that That's something about making the pool look nice whatever that is reflecting pool. Yeah to reflect. Reports indicate the new White House East Wing ballroom is projected to cost about six hundred million with roughly half just over three hundred million coming from taxpayer funded government accounts despite earlier promises that it would be taxpayer free Three hundred million sounds like a lot until you find out how much money they spend on other things When you find out how much just how much fraud, It is in NGOs. How much fraud is in nonprofits? How much fraud is in insider trading and propping up companies so that they can get better deals. The whole thing is frauded thing is If you spend in understand how much money goes and other things, but if you spending any money that That's my money that I don't know that that I need it or that's not really the aim, the goal. You shouldould be able to vote on it. You should be able toote You should be able to vote on where all your tax money goes. How much money is how much tax money is being spillent on getting smart people in placeac getting smart making smart children That's the big one That's the that's the thing. The big one is If you look at our country as a community and that's what we're supposed to be doing. We're supposed to be the United States of America, All that bullshit aside, that was the one good thing that happened about nine eleven When nine hundred eleven happened after that, we were all united. It was crazy It was crazy. We realizeed like we are actually on a team So four on a team Why do we have These deeply impoverished neighborhoods for decades and decades that are riddled with crime and drug abuse. Why Is it impossible to fix? That's crazy. That's not true. It's just no one's tried to fix it. No one's done any effort to fix it And if you did fix it, You want to make America great Here's the best one less losers And how do you get less losers? more opportunities for people, more opportunities, more support, more education more everything that you need if it was your neighborhood And if we did that, We'd have to switch the way our system runs, but that could be done, man. That's'tes have losers. N that manyers. That's the thing about make America great, right? If you're trying to make anything great, don't you need intelligent people to do that O course So that's the number one thing. So when we have all these divisive people that on a Lower vibration. How is that making the country The country great. if we're putting people in position that don't have the experience or the education in those in those things. And then we just saying a bunch of divisive things, you know? Yeah, you know, It was If I'm watching, the extravagans that it have in the White House What was the thing Michelle Obama is a man? Like how did that help? How did that help? That guy says that every time. But what is the what is the the thing first of all, It's really divisive because you know that a large portion of the country is going to take this is going to have a problem with this You know, clearly she's not a man. I'm saying, but it makes no sense like T I've never seen this many people say so many damaging things about past president. It's like he's still on the forefront and It's not like we have a president that's doing the greatest job for this this country, you know, which is which is weird or weird thing to me. And people going ask Is that what the belief That's that's the real belief of people. That's the real thing. Yeah, Well, listen, there's some crazy people that believe the world is flawed There's a lot of dumb beliefs. There's probably people that do believe Michelle Obama is a man. What that guy does, he's like a pro wrestler Like he's got a character called the Incredible Hope It's very cororny in a lot of ways. sometometimes it's cringy, but the point is he gets a lot of attention. A lot of attention because of all this. That's what he's doing So what he's trying to do is maximize the amount of attention that he can get for a very short window of career. This is not how he really feels, how he really thinks. When you talk to him in real life, it's very reasonable. This is an act that he does, like a pro wrestling act. But what he can do is fight He's really good And that's what's so confusing about it all So you got this guy who's created like this fake persona where he puts on an American flag bandana, comes out to Hulk Hogan music, does all his interviews with sunglasses on, has a bunch of crazy silly rhymes and says ridiculous shit, just trying to get attention. The most amount of attention. So it is very divisive. Don't get me wrong, but that's by design. So he's Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage In the same in the same an actual fighter. fucking good one, Mat. He just knocked out Derek Lewis at the White House. Derek Lewis has the most knockouts in all history this.'t't don't don't do that Don't do what? Let's this don't don't say that're so excited because Derek Lewis go to the same gym Main Street boxing Jimy Houston. I'm very close to that. Dude, I love Dk I don't like the fact that Derek Lewis lost their fight. I think is D Derek of ten years ago would have been a real fucking problem for that dude. because Derek of ten years ago, you couldn't hold him down. He would just get up He There's a whole compilation of people trying to hold Derek Lewis down. He just gets a hand on you and just whoop His grip, they did that UFC grip thing where they test the grip. Everybody's like one hundred and forty, the strong ones are like one sixty, one night. Derek just squeezed it casual to eighteen So they were like what the fuck? So you see how problematic this was for me? You already beat My friend, then you turn around and say He beat a forty year old Derk. A forty year old derk then turn around and say, Michelle Obama's a man. I was like, Okay, you know something. I know what you're saying. I'missed. Listen. You're right. Listen you're right. But I'm telling you, if you met that dude in real life, you would get it. He's just a dude. He's just a guy who' a competitive wrestler played in the NFL And he's like, I got to do something to figure out how to get people to pay attention to me because it can't just be fighting. It's not enough. If you look at Connor McGregor, you look at Sugar Seaan O'Malley, you look at these guys that have these flamboyant personalities, these big personalities. Cassius Clay is the original example They get an immense amount of attention and that translates into much more money and much more opportunities. There's no fucking way that guy would have gotten that fight at the White House if he couldn't fight because the fight that he had before that he fought Curtis Bles who was Top ten UFC heavyweight, huge wrestler And they went to war, dude. I mean, he put it on him for three fucking rounds. likeike Curtis just has an insane heart and survived it. But that guy can fucking fight. But just that alone is not enough. But you got to get attention. I don't agree with it. I don't I wouldn't do it. It's not my thing. I don't like it Right But I get it and it's smart with Muhammed Ali though He was very respectful in his in his in his act you know to get attention. you know, just He wasn't I mean, he wasn't with other people but he would show up at fucking Sonny Liston's house and scream about him on his fucking front lawn at four in the morning. He did wild crazy shit He did He did a lot of what. He was just all about getting your heart rate up, getting your emotions in there. He was so fucking smart. He knew before everybody that you could just get somebody into a frenzy and they wouldn't be able to sleep Their whole life revolved around fighting you. and I can't let this guy beat me in the fear of losing. He's going to keep you weak. It's gonna to keep you you're not going be able to eat as much food. You're going feel nervous. But you see what happened when somebody called him cash his claim Oh yeah. Oh yeah. was that? What fighter was that? kept punishing him Mama name M name I you But that didn't work out for him.. He beat the he beatle out of him and he carried him. He carried him while I was beating his ass Dude he was a special special guy. It's, you know, I'm not comparing him in terms of his cultural significance to Josh Hoket Because you know, he was my parents, my mother and my stepfather were hippies. They never watched fight But when he had a rematch with Leon Spinks, that's how much of a cultural figure he was wanted him to beat Leon Spinks. Yeah Oh my God, he's gott to win. He's gott to win. Hippies sitting in front of the fucking TV in like nineteen seventy, whatever it was. How crazy he they't have Italian like because I heard it it was like my family was like, I thought they was a Ital Ital. Well they were hippies, but, you know, my grandmother went to jail for running numbers for the mob. So it's like there was a lot of o. There was a lot of real lot lot of dynamics. Yeah. Grandma went away for a little bit She went't ratem out, so she did some time. I was at I was at a show one time and I said, Wild the Africans. in here And Italian dude Sicily, he raised his hand And I said And the people was like, why is he raising him? likeike, he knows Like He knows. He knows. like Yeah, there's a really re good reason why Sicilians have darker hair, curly hair, darker skin. He like ye Yeah, you know I say Mors. And that's all I said say was he knows. and people who got it, they was like Okay,' like And at that point it's like when people don't know that that you have some sort of level of intelligence' like information. they' like Okay. it's a big thing but that's funny though Italian hippieies, but myother also. Well, yeah, there was a lot of hippieies back then, man. And I think the original idea behind it was great Now was just watch this thing today about the CIA and LSD And what they did it was really funny, man. it was Yeah they animal too. Isn' it dope?. See if can find it. put it up becauseuse it's kind of cool. It conveniently an MK ultraate hearing going on right now in the Oh. how convenient. I know. C Listen, bro, that I got it right here, Jamie, I'll send it to you. They one hundred percent are still doing that. No if ands or butts. If you think they did that in the sixties and they one hundred percent did They're doing mind control experiments on people and they're influencing people's opinions and Half of the reason why people are at odds with each other all day long online is probably government intervention. At one point, or some governments' intervention This is this is not ours Russia and China This is wild that The CIA created the hippie movement, and your mom's favorite band probably helped them. In the nineteen fifties, the CIA bought up the world supply of LSD They brought it to the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, who reverse engineered it, giving them an unlimited supply and a complete monopoly. Then the testing started One early volunteer for these tests was Ken Kesy Kasey wrote a book inspired by this experience which became a best seller. Then Kasey went on to host events, which he called acid tests And he wasn't charging anyone. He just wanted people to show up and do acid For these events, he hired an unknown house band called The Grateful Dead. These events became wildly popular and with them rose the popularity of the band. so the Grateful Dead begins touring, and Kasey follows them around in a bus from show to show, and everywhere he went he brought a vat full of koolt laced with LSD. This guy had a seemingly endless supply, exporting the hippie culture all around the US. Meanwhile, the CIA is flooding college campuses with LSD under the guise of research, and the Grateful Dead was just one of many bands in this movement At the same time in Laurel Canyon came a wave of musicians with something in common. They were all children of high ranking military officials. The biggest names in music. Jim Morrison of the Doors was the son of an admiral. Frank Zappa's father was a chemical warfare specialist Even Crosby stillills and Nash. Yeah, all three of them, and all of these bands as well. The theory is the CIA orchestrated the hippie movement to steer a very real anti war movement into something a little easier to combat. cent without teeth. The hippie slogan was literally Turn on. Tune in R Oh. In other words, do acid and remove yourself from society And a lot of them did drop out of society to go live in communes in the woods. This intersection between hippie culture and the CIA could all be a great big coincidence. Maybe military brats naturally want to rebel And maybe the CIA was giving away acid because they're chill like that. And maybe the CIA created the hippie movement And your mom's favorite band probably help them Isn't that wild? That's crazy. That's wild They also had a big influence on gangster rap B bigig influence on promoting gangster For sure. one hundred percent Pven. one hundred percent. one hundred percent. Yeah. You rather You wanted to fill prisons. You You want to push that over anythingything el, you know, because we can look at high rap music changed and changed. You nineteen ninety two at the nineteen ninety two, they was like no more positive Well it was whenever straight out of Compton came out because I was in Boston at the time. I would remember to the day it happened. But Straight out of Compton wasn't A drug filled induced out. It was If you look at some of the song, you look at a lot of the songs that was on that album It was Rebellious songs against the system you know, fuck the police and then nineteen ninety two, man, when they decided, yo, we don't want no more D La Soul. we don't more trial C quests. we don't want no you get them leather medallions out you. It's like yo, we we need we need like yo, what like self destruction andestast West cooast all stars They was like, what They coming together No no You know, we need this to be divisive. We need them to separate And that's crazy that that The biggest times that I've experienced this country being together was The Olympics When the dream team came, nine eleven in COVID That's the biggest time that we the three biggest times I've ever seen us together. Yeah, because we need something We need something that's real that we need some sort of an event that makes us realize First of all, the fragility of life, that's important, and we have to realize that we're all supposed to be a part of a team and in and You can't play on a team if your teammates don't think you that you're valuable. Not only that, you can't play on a team if your teammates are poisoning you. If your teammates are allowing you to eat rotten food so that you can't play It may be giving you inferior gear on purpose and maybe keeping you in a place where you can't get sleep so that you're not going to evolve that you're not like you're always going to be tired, you're going to be fatigued. So you're never going to get better at whatever the fuck it is you're doing You're never going to advance in life. You're going to be tired. You're going to be on drugs, you're going to be poor This episode is brought to you by Armra. Every week there's some new wellness hack that people swear by. and after a while, you start thinking Why do we think we can just outsmart our bodies That's why Amra colostrum caught my attention. It's something the body already recognizes and has hundreds of these specialized nutrients for gut stuff, immunity, metabolism, et ccetera. I first noticed it working around training, especially workout recovery Most stuff falls off, but I am still taking this. If you want to try, ArmA is offering my listeners thirty percent off plus two free gifts. goo to AmRA dot com slash Rogan This is how I see That's not a good team. This is how I see with parenting. It's hard to parent if your number one goal is survive I'm saying it's hard to parent. You know, you got a parent from A comfortable space. You can't parent from nervous chickens really don't lay eggs in no true. So The thing is you Like the way I parent now versus how my mom my mom was strictly survival. So my thing is survival first. I'm saying. then the rest of it. you know, I don't remember going to Oh on vacation with my parents You know, like vacation your w working two jobs and going to school trying to better She's just taking care of you Right So I'm not in my kids go on vacation You know, it's different. You know, so I see things from both sides all the time because I'm in which makes me grateful. I'm grateful that I can do the things I can do with my family I' say versus parenting from a place of frustration. you know, but I understand This, this this frustration thing, you know, I'm trying to take care of you and, you know. and then sometime I look at my kids like, you know, something you have it really easy because if I wouldn't to washed them dishes My mind would have destroyed me saying becausecause her mind said is, Hey, I'm trying to take care y'all y'all got the help in this. you know, me, like we have a housekeeper What The housekeper com in four days out the week, you know, and now I'm like, so you just going to throw that and stuff on the floor. And you making it hard for the housekeeper You know, the reason why she's here four days a week is so to make your life easier, but you you're adding on to by being lazy. B being lazy. like I don't There's a balancing act, right? You want to protect your children, but you don't want them to develop Soft. You want them to be able to take care of their own problems and you want them to be able to understand the consequences of their actions. So this is like fine line of like enncouragement Schmid and like explaining to them how your life was different And you have to appreciate this life. This is very unusual. You're super fortunate. But I think ultimately what they learn from is how you behave That's a giant part of being a parent that people I don't think totally aware of until you start doing it. that they understand whatever the fuck you say is one thing. That's great. What you do What you do is what they really say. And if you're a lazy fucker who's always making excuses, your kids are gonna not have respect for you. They're gonna know like real early on, you're kind of full shit. This is the craziest thing though. You know how hard it is to put someone on punishment and then say, hey ack we going to Cabo. He's like A I own punishment when we go to Cabbo.et your iPad for sixteen hours. When we get the cabo, you stay in your room, Overlook the ocean. And think about your consequences. As you order a room service, drinking Coca Cola, eating french fries, lamb chops coming into the room. It's like yo, you won't punish me do So I can so I can't have oysters. You hear the birds chirping. you looking at the waves like it's rough. and it's being it's a certain part of success that You almost can't punish because it's like I'm not standaying home Be you w punishment.. See my mom would it's just different, you know, different. My mom would go in her room and turn on Nazand in a dynasty and I'm in my room with no TV because it was only one TV. There's a TV in every room. Every me the punishment was come in here and watch Falcon Chrress with me. I don't w want to watch know Falcon Cst And then you start watching Falcon Cst and now you love it. You's like, So when is it coming on again That's my character. That's why I like Mash. You I' saying? I would be I would be in trouble and you watching Mash and Bananza and then all of a sudden, you love Mash. I cried with Mash when I was It's like that. R remember the dude who dressed up like a girl in Mash? Jamie Farr. Yeah. He was my neighbor. I was a navled? Yeah, wow. Back in California You live right next door, two houses down inker It used to be just me and him And then another guy built a house in between us Uh, who was cool very friendly guy playedac played a good character. That was a good show. Yeah Mash was a very good show. You know, And I said this other day to a friend of mine. I said like I listen, I used to ride and take my kids to school and listen to morning shows, You know, really Tom Jooyna, you know, listen to Tom Jooyna. This is something I can listen to with my kids. Now there's no morning shows that I can listen to children without them putting in a different element that I'm I don't want my kids to be a part of You know, that's a weird thing that they curs in on radio and doing h this but, they can't curse on radio stuff. Oh Yes, they can. Can they? they change? They'll drop a B word in a minute Oh, a B word. Yeah. but that's it You can't he can't use you can't say fuck. No, but the rest of it, you know, my You know you've got daughters, you're the Right, right, right and you're hearing some shit. You don't want them to herear. That's that's a weird thing. Yeah like So they go to school and you know, and they say You right watching the B, you like And it was the ending of the show. right. things. So now you just we ride and listen to K Cold. He was say with no talk Oh I listened to NPR. I listened to, um Uban urban network, you know for them to listen, now they got all these political questions and And you know, when your five year old like, so why aren't we voting?ike It because you've been listening to Carana is the whole time on the way to school or from school. So it's u It's weird how you What shows would you sit down and watch with your kids now You know, they had to watch the shows that I grew up watching. you know, got to go back. You got to watch Perry Mason and Family Matters and, you know, the Cosby show, you know, different world. We had to go back and watch good times. You know, can't watch the current things You know? So, you know, even with with comedy, I took I took Hassan to a comedy show. with me to see some friends And it was fourteen at the time And we left because it was no it was nothing thingsings that were being said It kind of made me go back to when u Cosby did the story about his son going to see Eddie Murphy and his daddy said these things and I was sitting there like after the first Two minut I'm like, yo, we gott to get out of here. How old was he at the time? fourteen? fourteen. That's too young And I was like, yo, man. But I mean, the guy who was doing comedy, he's doing comedy for adults that are drinking in a nightclub, right? No, we was at a event where it was all these bodybuilders, the gym Um nexte level had did a u a show for all the D the people that work out there and the trainers. And I'm thinking, okay, this is at a ballroom. you know, it's probably going to be pretty cool. I stopped in, you know, we sat in the back and then it went left. and I was like, Hey man, let's get out of here and He's seen me And so he's like Now this ain't that this ain't the same. I'm like yeah, I'm not I'm not going for a certain type of laugh. I'm not doing shock value You know, So he's watched almost all the specials. You know, so It's not the it's not the same for for him You know, and he look he knows a lot of comics. So it's it's not This wasn't conducive. I was like, howon we out outio. He's like But sometimes you can go and you can watch their whole show like Margcus D. Wileie, he can get an understanding of At least marriage, you know, how how marriage go to give you some some fuel But I think the landscape of comedy is different for different people, not knocking the people who do shock value or a lot of sexual content that's there That's their stick and they probably young and at some point they'll grow. Hopefully they'll grow and it'll be more things in life to talk about. peopleeople like, well, how do you add this many specials Um becausecause I have a life, you know, I had a life before that I talked about and then I have a life, a current life that, you know, I'm still experiencing things so I'm going to talk about things that that that's a little different because I' I'm living and I'm not stuck in Sex is not the number one thing. I remember I when I when I figured that I was Sex wasn't that big when I went to, you know, they had the thing Netflix and Chill. Oh I actually wanted to watch the movie I'm like, Oh, get your hand on my leg. I'm try to watch this movie. You know I'm saying So it's a thing about the development in this game of how you grow and what you think about Well I think comedy is just One of the problems with the label is that there's no genres. It's not like blues comedy, rock and roll comedy, hip hop comedy, EDM comedy. It's just comedy You don't know what it is It's just different people's perspective on things And there's different kinds of comedy that people like. You know, someome people are giant Richard Prior fans, someome people are Sam Kinnison fans, some people are Jerry Seinfeld fans And some people love Bonnie Wate and some people love, you know, whatever. James Brown fill in the blank. There's a lot of different styles of music And there's a lot of different styles of comedy and All that I care is that you enjoy what you're doing and you're doing it because you enjoy it. And if you're doing that I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck what you're doing I don't care if you have props. I don't care if you write signs and hold them up for the crowd. I don't give a shit what you're doing. I don't care if you do impressions. I don't give a fuck what you're doing. That was a huge So when talk about the scope of comedy, you know, I'm I can star with Carol Binetette and I watch that, but guy who I watched on HBO a lot I knew I wasn't going to do that type of standup. that was just a whole different thing, but Gallag That was crazy to me. Crazy. That was crazy Ebodybody wore plastic in Garbage bags around the neck What sixix rows? Yeah, Just It splattered with watermelons and pineapples and coconuts and whatever the fuck he was Cabbage ridiculous. Ridiculous. But he also had some good jokes. Yeah some solid jokes in between then D did a ton of specials. Yeah. You know the craziest story, the Gallagher story Is Gallagh retired and his brother took over His brother was Gallagher two So we had a brother that kind of looked like Gallant. I remember that. Right? Weember Gallagant too And then somewhere down the line, Gallagh decided he wants to start doing comedy again And he's like, Hey, Gallagher two, the gig is up. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm making money. I'm Gallagher two. I think there was some sort of a legal dispute. Find out if that's correct There was a legal dispute between them. Gallgher's younger brother R, who shred a strong likeness to Leo, asked him for permission to perform shows using Gallgher's trademark sledge dromatic routine. Leo granted his permission on the condition that Ron and his manager clarified in promotional materials that this was Ron Gallgher, not Leo Gallgher, who was performing. Ron typically performed in venues smaller than those of which Leo Gallgher performed after several years. Ron began promoting his act as Gallgher two or Gallagher TOO or TWO In some instances, Ron's act was promoted in a way that left unclear the fact that he was not the original Gallagher Leo initially responded by requesting only did his brother not use the sledge oatic routine. You can't use the fking You can't use the sledgehammer. Ron nonetheless continued to tour as Gallghar two using the routine. In august two thousand, Leo sued his brother for trademark violations and false advertising. The court ultimately sided with Leo and granted an injunction prohibiting Ron from performing any act that impersonated his brother in small clubs and venues. This injunction also prohibited Ron from intentionally bearing likeness to Leo. What Imagine you can't look like your brother. Cut. cut your mustache. Yeah you got to change your muststache. You got to get rid of the beard. That's crazy So did u Gallagh continue with his career after he kicked his brother out Did he come back W was that part of it? Nobody mean does itt say it there? Did't say it It doesn't say that specifically in this Do did When did Gallagher start performing again, putut that in a search? what it says. Be I think he did start performing again. Yeah, he says it's the hospital after performance in twenty eleven Okay And what year did he sue his brother Oh, so he did start doing comedy again. So that's it. Yeah So he's like, Hey, motherfucker. Yeah he hit a special in twenty thousand seven and twenty fourteen. Yeah, you can't be doing that with Gallagher too running around, siphoning off of your crowd. You know, peopleople like, honey, you want to spend fifty bucks and see Leo Forty one spent twenty bucks S see basically the same shit Iron. Sron smashing fucking cabbage You know, D had what ye, carot top. And imagine saying, yeah, you could perform, but you can't use a sledgehammer. I would use a mallet. What about a mallet Can I you use a mallet?' a baseball bat Ia just have someone pitch me things and I smash them into the crowd Yeah you can't own that. s that's a different thing. I'm handing out Oranges and tomatoes in the o. Yeah, I honestly, I don't give a fuck what you do. as long as you like what you're doing It's like I love certain kinds of music complepletely opposite to other shit that I love. I mean, I like all kinds of stuff I don't think you should P pigeonhole yourself with anything But I would not take my kids, especially when they were really young to see someone who's like very sexual or really rowdy or really raunchy like You know, the caveat to this is he was in the green room and they were looking right at him. Like they ended like and I'm like What a tail ch T T me But I didn't know they act. So he didn't say, hey, bro, you got young kids? Yeah, hey becauseuse I would say, hey man, tonight, you know, right Yeah, yeah, ye said an event, Bro. Oh, I would definitely do that Especially if you were another comic and you brought your kids out Brow Yeah, because J Beleril used to bring his te second Yeah yo Yo, you gott to how to get him out of here. They don't need to know about all these techniques. Yeah. So that that's weird, you know, but Yeah that is weird, but you know what I mean? It's like time in a place. like who is he doing it for I mean, they probably knew what he did before they hired him. They probably wanted that. someomeone's a fan Which is fine, but just don't invite kids. And like and like I said, I didn't All I did was hey, how's on Let's go And that's it. I didn't Hey, y'all should have been. I'm like, Hey, man, do what you do, but I'm getting my kid out of here. M And then you get the phone call. Hey man, why you leave? you don really won't know why I'm leaving because you are terrorizing my child. so yeah, no but I definitely wouldn't take my girls to none. I'm like none of know. They don't need to see that really. Not at all. My wife got mad at me when I think one of my daughters was six, the other one was eight I had to watch the movie Alien You ever see that movie Alien in the original movie? Yeah. fucking terrifying. And this is too young. This is too young. I fucked up You know, I think Hassan Watch Anna Baail when he was young and it Oh, Annabelle's creepy. It was he was traumatized. He wased in somebody else's house. Oh you know with some other kids and and they were like, I guess they they understood Hassan was It was a whole problem. likeike you talk about sleeping with all the lights on in the house. Like I want all the lights on and I'm sleeping in your bed, rightight. Do you ever go to that place in Vegas? It's haaunted M Zach Bagggins haaunted Museum He has the Annabelle doll there. Wow There it is Which one is one on the right That's the real one? That's right' the one on the left the movie one? Oh really Interesting Wow, so that Annabelle is Both on creepy as hell of me, but well there's It something extra creepy about the one with eyes like a person The left one that's insane You believe in ghost Yes Really Have you had experience Oh no, no, no, no, no I have let me go back. Let let me say that. I do believe in G ghosts so my old house will my mom say that now. It's a girl that lives there. You know, I don't know what happened at this house, but it's definitely girl that lives in a house, but she would only come from like the hallway bathroom to the kitchen and I remember doing the paint. Wait minute, you say a girl, You you mean a ghost. Yeah, that's a girl Okay. She's definite girl And I remember being during the pandemic. I was in a DN And I was working on I was working on something and literally I just turned to said So you up, huh? And because I can feel her I was like, you know, and I had to go back through my family. A lot of people in my family have experiences with past relatives that passed on My uncle said he saw his dad, which my grandfather in his shoes And my mom said she saw My grandfather before they lived in that died in the house that they had in Mississippi. But yeah, I believe in ghosts. I believe in unsettled spirits My mom definitely had a girl that lived in the house. My grandmother, the one I was telling you about before, she was very interesting. and she really strongly believed in ghosts. and there was a guy that stayed with them for a while. They had like an upstairs area that they weren't using once the kids left And so they rented out Like it was like an attic space that they had converted or I forget exactly what it was. Anyway they rented out a room to this guy. wherever the circumstances were he died And my grandmother swore that that dude stayed in the house Yeah, I I believe it I think It's possible. that if something happens to you that If you're dying, that's a very traumatic experience. and I have a feeling that we don't totally understand memory. And we assume that memory is something that only human beings have or that only animals have or that only creatures have living creatures have. I don't think that's real I have a feeling There may be a type of memory from particularly traumatic experiences that stays in a space And I think this is one of the reasons why they have to disclose within a certain amount of time, someone's been murdered in the house in a lot of places before you buy it because people don't want to live in a house that's got that energy in it. because think I think things keep energy. I think they do. I think there's something more to memory than just as simple as, oh, remember when we were five? I think there's something else there. I think that's our memory. But I think there's a type of memory in things That's what I think. I believe in the unseen world. So I believe in genes You know, I believe in angels I wasm saying? So it's an unseen world. that's not You know I would think but It was things that was things here before us, you know, so I think there's things here with us. Yeah, definitely with us. And peopleople who don't think that haven't smoked DMD Deinite get a hold. G get a hold of some DMD and you're like, okay There's things around you all the time. There's things that are influencing you all the time And this is like when we talk about like good energy and bad energy, one of the things you experience in psychedelic states is a clear recognition of like good things you've done and bad things you've done. The good way of thinking, the good way you think about things, a positive way and bad. I I remember having negative thoughts in an experience once and it was all these like dark fractals. And then I realized it was trying to show me that these dark fractals, these crazy geometric, these like scary patterns that I was seeing was because of my own thoughts. And then I released them and it turned into beautiful geometric patterns over and over. And it kept saying like, look at this this and I was like, o, it's actually the way you think changes the world around you. It has an effect It might not have the ultimate effect. It might not be one hundred percent of what happens to you and in your life, but it has a meaningful effect We just can't measure it. And there's things that are out there, whatever they are They have some kind of consciousness that are around us all the time. We just don't have the senses to take them in. Just like when you wave your hand over an earthworm, it has no fucking idea you're doing that We don't have the senses to understand that there's things around us. And people have been writing about these things for so long. Discount them all they're all liars, they're all delusional. They're all crazy I think that people discount them d to thinking that They were on drugs Well, they probably work But it doesn't mean they're wrong. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean they're wrong. You know, like like Um, a drunk, A drunk really don't tell a lot of lies That'sk drunk don't tell a lie. They I'm drunk. I can't remember all that. I'm just saying what it is. R It was saying when you When people Like LSD, you know, you you hallucin it You know, Mushrooms these things. peopleople like, well, you only saw that because you was on this. but maybe that's the portal. Oh how you see Certain things. I think there's certain things that we block ourselves from being able to see by our own protective instincts. We protect our thoughts mean this is why people I think get paranoid when they smoke weed One of the things that we does is it dissolves all these artificial barriers that you've put between you and the thoughts of real danger. They're all there. You realize your vulnerability. you realize who you are So just think of how years ago how we was viewed. how marijuana was viewed Um It was taught that Marijuana is a gateway drug to crack I didn't believe that. Like, how did that even correlate, but It's for those who are trying to find an ultimate high. Maybe you just smokeed weed and that's all you ever did, you know And you wasn't trying to find another high. I think some people try to find another highlight now Man, a lot of these young people are on so many different things at the same time Like what are you searching for? You know, they popping pills doing coke, drinking lean doing everything all at the same time. like what is and drinking? like what what What are you trying to escape or what are you searching for? You know? And I just know people who just smoke weed and still smoke joints. know they don't smoke I know people who grow their own blood. they're not even trusting what's going on now. now he finding Fittn all and all his marijuana you know And the pesticides horrible pesticides because what people don't know is that a giant percentage of all the drugs or marijuana rather that people are buying in places where it's illegal They're growing them in national forests in California and the cartels doing it And the cartel uses a bunch of pesticides and herbicides that are illegal, like real toxic shit And they find them doing it all the time. They find these grow ops in the forest all the time because it's a misdemeanor So because marijuana is legal in the state of California, growing it is just a misdemeanor. So you can have a full scale grow up And, you know public land out in the forest And these guys find them there all the time. A friend of mine found one in a ranch that he works at If follow these TVC pipes. And he realized that some guy was diverting water into this little area that was on a Tahon ranch. which is a big ranch outside of Bakersfield. But this dude that was on my podcast for his name's John Norris. He wrote a book about it. He was a game warden And he had it turned into a tactical unit. They had to get like dogs like Belgian malmois and shit with bulletproof vests and they're going in there having shootouts with the cartel because the cartel that set up these marijuana grow upps in the woods And it was his job to police that area. like, okay I guess that's what we're doing now. And then they it's a crazy story, man. It's not like moonshine. That's why you M moonshine Exactly And this thing moon shine, mooon shining developed into NASCAR Exactly Exactly. They had to outrun the cops Yeah Yeah, that's what NASCAR came about from It's fun. It's I mean, listen also it's al Capone You know, it's all the mob. They were all running alcohol. And there's a lot of people that were connected to them. You know, some people believe that JFK's dad was involved in alcohol That's disputed The point is like a lot of people were making money selling alcohol. They were all criminals, all of them. And so what are you doing? Are you stopping people from getting marijuana? Nope What you're doing is you're empowering a criminal empire. And you're giving them an immense amount of money And they're probably going to have to kill a few people because people get in the way We're probably going to have to rob a few people because people are competition. There's a little bit of a problem over here. We got another guy growing We live in we live in, uh um, society where Bad guys definitely romanticized So how do you stop people from wanting to be the bad guy when It's romanticized in everything. you know. It's romanticized to the point where John Wick is a good guy Yeah. John Wick is a contract killer for the Russian mob He kills who knows how many fucking people And he's the good guy But you got a problem with the ice man an Iice man was a terrible person. You know, play with poison. John Wick at least looks sexy in that suit. But you cannot wait for John Wick six to come out way. I love those Well the John Wick movie though, like he had a reason. They killed his dog and they stole his car They fucked up They fucked up. They stole the wrong guy's car and they killed the wrong guy's puppy And so you' rooting for him. You're rooting for him to kill all these bad Russian guys. But you don't realize like that gu guysy's been a contract killer for the Russian mob. For who knows how many dads is assassinated? How many fucking people that have families that will never come home to them because of John Wick Yep. And sometimes a lot of times, you know, people don't care. We don't you know, That's weird. Well, we're weird. We're a weird animal. We're a weird animal in a constant flux of thoughts And you know, trying to figure out what's the right way to think and the wrong way to think People join religions for it, they'll join cults for it, they'll join political movements for it. They just want to find a way to think that makes them feel better than the way they think right now you know, with with The need to feel better outside of yourself. you know or your family you know, or being you know great to society. I think Dance. detrimental to this society where I just I personally need to feel better, but I don't want the community around me to feel better. And in my mind, if Everybody around you in the community feels better. I think it makes for a more harmonious you know environment than me just being the only one. Yeah that's because you're a wise person. The problem is there's a lot of people that aren't wise and there's no one wise around them And thats that's the real issue is that there's an extreme lack of like direction book. of how to lead a solid life You're not taught at school. In school you're taught to sit down and learn some shit that you don't give a fuck about learning. Memorize this, do good on the test. You gott to get a job. What's a job Well, you got to sit there and do some shit you don't want to do get some money. And with the rest of your time you can do whatever you want as long as you keep showing up every morning at the same spot Okay, and then that sucks. And so what do you want to do? I want to escape this suck. So what do I need? Cld syrup? Okay, give me some of that. What do I need? Weed? giveive me some of that. Aderall Adderall makes me like the job. Okay. I'll take this shit every day. Now I don't give a fuck. now I'ming to get ahead. Next thing you know I'm moving up the corporate ladder. I don't want a fucking anim, bro becauseuse I'm on Aderall basasically on math You're on a well designed slow drip amphetamine. And you're out there fucking sleeping four hours a day, getting shit done You know, driving a jaguar And this is the problem in society said, like People don' have real there's a lot of people out there that don't really have a purpose. They don't have a real feeling of purpose in their life. You are very fortunate because you've found a thing that you're really good at, you love to do, and you make a great living doing it A lot of people don't have a thing and they don't never they never were taught to pursue a thing or they never saw anybody else do it and they realized they could do it too And then next thing, you know, they're married ids and they're in their thirties and forties and they feel like shit As your question You have a team, correct? am of people teeam of people. Sure. okay Do you think your team is happy doing whatever they do for the team. I didn't think that, they wouldn't be working. Okay So you don't want to be the only one happy on the team. That's terrible. So And you don't want to also have someone on the team that is one of those people that justves never happy That's a problem too As' a problem too So there's people out there you can't fix. So with Like I produce other people's specials now And comomics that hit me Hey, man, I want you to my special. I want you to do this for myself. The hardest thing I'm a small company the hardest thing is when I have to explain to somebody why it's a no you know on this particular spepecial. And it's not just my no. It is for other people's No because I tell people and I explain this If we doing a special, with you you have to get the approval All five of us becausecause we all five do different things. I want everybody who's involved me a special to want to do it notot They have to do it because it's a part of the company. No, I want them to want to do it. And I say, I'm not putting you through process that I'm not putting myself through It was say and I've test and I've tested this team. with me U giving them special that I knew they wasn't spepecial And I'm the head. I'm like, I sent it out and they And we brought it back to the table and it was a lot of signence at first, I'm like, so what we think? What are we thinking And they was like L I mean, this is horrible. like Now I'm just listening to everybody's You know, opin on it And they like, I don't understand the direction. I don't understand when you going with this, I just, you know, we don' have to fix a lot of it. I'm like and And I'm just sitting there listening and took the vot And we turn the vote in. It was five ns And he was like So the What was your take on? I said? I knew it was a no from the beginning I just wanted to make sure that y'all wasn't going to try to fluff me with the because he's the head. we're going to say yes. And I'm like, good. So anytime we do a project, If then I put it on the table Just like I put anybody else's project on the table. And you gott to get all five people If you want me to finance, you got to get me. Th you got to get the marketing person that's going to market, you got to get the director, you got to get the manager, you got to get everybody so they can feel good about pushing your project I don't want anybody pushing a project that they don't like. It's very smart. Yeah You make it a democracy smart. So if you got all five of us, then now we ready. I'm saying? And now I'm feel good about somebody coming to me and say, this is going to cost this. R because I know they're doing it out of ay man, this is what's going to cost. We going figure it out. And I'm like, cool. But even when I do a special man, they it is a lot of You don't want to talk about this part. Light No, like we should talk about this And it's been some decisions that have been made that was It was my call at the end, but it was somebody else's idea, like with Domino effect. It would have never been a domino effect two, three or four if I would have stuck with the name that I started with The name was nineteen eighty three.. So how what it was going to be eighty three, part eighty six It's like it's like Rugg it which won what three Reby Awards. Ruggget was was the original name was I'm not Hy. And Eric called me was like No I've listened to it. I've watched it so many times. I think that we should go with this name. And he gave me a name and I sat on it for a day and then I called him back him likeight, Yeah, you about right. That's good. That means you got good people. And I think that people should put, like right now I'm on a custom fit tour Well, I'm off into August because I'm take six weeks of vacation custom fit is not going to be special It's just the tour that I'm doing now because the specials that I'm writing are different than what I just wanted to take this time to just do some material. I didn't want to have a theme be working on the special But the theme is about peopleople think custom fit is about clothes. It's not about clothes. It's about tailor making the people around you. and I'm saying that can you can be a benefit to it can be a benefit to you I'm saying, not just having these people around ' you know, sometimes people have a bunch of people around that secretly despise them you know, and secretly despise their success. And that's u that's detrimental to Any Haters Yeah. Yeah. sometometimes haters will get real close to you.ay stay next to you. It's a problem. I mean, when you're in a position like you're in too, when you produce another other people's specialists you're going get a bunch of people to come to you that you don't want to do their shit It's just like owning the club the same issue, the way I bypass that. put all the power into Adam. Adam Egot decides who's there and who's not there and how the club gets scheduled and You know, who passes and who doesn't And he's really good at it You know, he's really good at it. I trust him implicitly. so I don't have to think about it. And I like it so that when people say I want to work at your club,'m like, well you got to talk to Adam. I just perform I might be the owner, but I just perform there. I don't I don't think about it in terms of like how the scheduling is. I often have to check the website to see who's there. I don't know who's there You know, it's it might be mine, but I got a guy who does it and he does it really well. so why would I get involved in that? It's easier to not. when I had, um when I had a club in Houston I couldn't be funny in the club Why not because I was ively working the club So I'm on stage and I'm worried about Oh so many other things You know, going on. likeike, yo, did you just drop a glass on the ground Likem I didn't have enough help. so you got to get the right help.. I got very fortunate in that a lot of the people that I took to Austin, they were from the comedy store And they were out of work. So the comedy store closed because the fucking stupid government of LA. they wouldn't even allow them to do outside shows ouldn't you couldn't do an outside show in the parking lot or of the comedy store. they wouldn't allow it. It's so stupid. They were closed for like a good solid year and a half They couldn't support paying all these people So they had to get rid of them and I moved here and it's the same time. It just by chance, it happened at the same time. And so they were all out of work. And I said, hey Let's get the bandbacks together again. Lets's do you guys want to move to Austin So I paid for everybody to come out here and I paid for them. I gave them a full salary with everything for like a year and a half or so, maybe even more. Maybe two years before anybody had to go to work. because the club wasn't open. So I was like, I want to give you a job, like so you could settle in Get used to Austin. You're going to get paid like you get paid like you're working, but you don't have to work I love you. I know you And, you know Come here, very admirable. With the store. I just performed at the store Broom for G They had a thing before BT Ww popped in And The comedy store has a certain politics to it that. You know, I like the other one A little more, you know all they serve is pop P. No the back to other comedy store. Oh, La Jolla? Yeahjolla. Loia is the shit, which is that place is the shit. What a club. They just don't have food Let popcorn drinks. I don't believe in food in comedy clubs either. Yeah so. But it's just a different Environment. La Jollia is like very nice beautiful place. That club is awesome. I love performing there And the store in LA It's like you get there and it's very it seems very you know, segregated. This is now. It too me that's when I How long ago was this? I just performed, u Last week, last Wednesday. That's u that's sad here because it wasn't like that before. It seemed like the main room in the room around the corner and the Belly Ollies' rooms are deear friend spaces and That's to me and I may just it may just be that feel because I'm not there a lot, you know? bite. when I come before I came that time, But the management walked up was very pleasant What do you mean by different spaces? but obviously there different rooms. What do you mean What do you mean? It seemed like the main room is different from the room around the corner. Well, it is different, but what do you mean by It feels different. it feels a little different Well, I mean, just by its design. It's a big room. It's brighter, the ceilings are taller. And then you get into the original room, which is just tight and perfect The original room is like, that's where you find out what's real. You know, I've seen a lot of people have rough sets They were real real confident going into that room. That room is a truth serorem. I like a type. Well, then then there's the belly room. The belly rooom is the ultimate truth serum trying out new jokes in the belly room is the place because, you know, only seats seventy people. man can't You can't bullshit those people there.s Crime Dlla Crim is a tight small. Bell room is that's whatacular. I came from such a good room. I came from small audiences. They're the best. It's the best for finding out if jokes are real There's nothing like a small crowd. Like in our club we have the little boy. little bit we have our rooms are named after the bombs. They dropped on on Hiroshima and Nagasaki And Little Boy is only one hundred and ten seats. It's a super low ceiling This is when You know, it's those times in comedy when you knew that That's what you actually love to do And I remember I was in San Antonio at this this place called Santas's. He he literally owned the whole strip ub, the was cheer, the corner store, everything, a guy named Santa I didn't know that he owned it, but it was like a rainstorm or something. got the show got rained out. and it is literally Three people in Israel is Two ladies in this santa And I don't know that this is him at the time And We had to go on to get paid. The promoter was like, I'm not paying anybody who don't go on. We're still doing the show A I okay So is this is a hundred dollars ' getting paid a hundred dollars And he was like Wh who going up I like I'm definitely going up And I'm going up first Like I don't I don't care I did like an hour and thirty minutes for three people And I was like, ' I kept looking and like anybody else going over there? He was like, now we good. I'm like, I And Santa I remember heat He finally revealed that he was the owner of the club. And he was like, well, let me take you today b. he took me to the back and he gave me like seven hundred dollars It wasan for performance He say, Yeahah, man, you wasn't scared and me and my friends had a good time. And it was like three people It was literally the d name Vance put the show on. It was like three Vance to tell anybody story. was like, this is when I knew Ali was different When he went out three people he went first and he's like hour and thirty and he was like And it didn't look like he was coming down. I'm like Yo, where Imm I'm here. This is what I do. I don't And I need that hundred dollars, so that's definitely some extra motivation.raise that no one else wanted to go up. They say know. Another time I was at Wally of the Wildy College. An Markcus was performing and the mic went out And it's like all these people in this in this auditum, the same place they shot, Denzel shot the movie the Great debate. So in we're in this outdor and the sound goes out and They started ribbing Marcus and and I was in the back and I was like, what's going on? And it wass like the sound went out And I walked out, I was like What's happening And I say, hold on Marcus. let me ask him something, Wait a minute. I know damn well, y'all out in here trying to get somebody in problem because y'all got us in we didn't bring this down system, got us in fair Eastide high performance broken clock. And so I say, listen, Marcus sat down in the back and I say, yo is what we going to do Tu Y'all gonna laugh, then I'm gonna talk to some more, but y'all can't be laughing all along ' we at no sounds. I'm not supposed to use my real voice in this I'm at like forty five And then I look back at Mark I say, Hey, man, you w't come back up. Mark was like, No. L you got it.' like an hour and twenty. He's like, at least nuts. I'm like, no, this is what I do And I'm gonna figure it out. We did a show at the improv once in Hollywood and the power went out. and they were going to cancel the show. And we were sitting there talking and I said, whyy don't Can we light the stage somehow And they said, yeah, we can get a emergency light attached to like a generator and we could put a you know, put the run the wires to the crowd and put an emergency light on the stage. I go, that's that. We'll do that And then we'll just do stand up with no mic And we did the whole show with No Mic It was the opening middle And then me, I did a full hour. It was amazing. Everybody had a great fucking time. It felt special It felt very unusual. Yeah. You got to see what it's like like when you don't have a microphone and you're projecting to the back of the room, changeed my pacing on things But it was great. it felt cool It felt like you were doing something and the audience was into it. I go, lookook, we're gonna have fun, right? Like fuck it Who cares? This is going to be this is never going to happen again probably ever I've never I've been doing comedy thirty something years. I've never had that happen where I did a show with no microphone except that one So this is the thing. These are the experiences that as a com it going through the trenches Some comics are never have Right because they didn't come up that way. And you have a different set of chops When you come up a certain type of way, I've come up and Just joking had to be the craziest place becausecause some some nights You're coming in it's like nine people Th these nine people are into comedy and Alice would be like, you got to do the show. L it's not a we don't have a limit. We got to do these people that's here because what the thing is that whole idea that the show must go on regless regardless too Well, I learned that from Paul Moononey too and one of the things that I said I did a show at the comedy store. It's like the first time that Moononey ever complimented me. and that I was always scared of him Beause like Mooney didn't like it, it was terrifying. He was a legend. He was a legend wrote for Richard Prior. and it was like the way he carried himself. he didn't like you like And I was twenty seven, you know I was young and stupid. I went up because I would always go up last or late had late spots And there was like fifteen people in the room But I did my act And I heard in the back of the room He was laughing, having fun. And then he grabbed me afterwards he goes, You're a real mother fucking comic He goes, that's what a real comic does. He goes, all these other motherfuckers, they went up there and they did, Oh, where are you from? bitch, I know where I'm from. Tell me some fucking jokes. Do your fucking act. and that's what you did. And I was like, wow Palmon you likes me. P, me and P had a different type of relationship Did you and Paul not get along? One, I have to always say, I love, I love Paul until I met him Paul was on some bullshit when he when I met Paul. manan. I was at the improv and I was featuring for him and The Imrovit got me the feature for him and I was like, cool, I'm excited. I get to meet One of my idols in this game, one of the people who changeed the course of my pacing because it my lenage is just sitting down. pass through Paul. So It's When I first started, I was a crazy man, I was all over the place thought that you had to have all this energy. And then this guy named Dez White walked into the club One night I was there and Dare stood in the same exact place. He never took the mic out of the stand put his drink down the stool and Dad just stood there And he was destroying this room never took the mic out the stand and people and he always my people say dad That is why you don't take the mic out the stand And he's like because there's a stand it let it on the mic. Well some of my favorite comics don't take the mic out stand. Ron White. Yeah. Ron White just stands there with a drink on a stool, sometimes with a cigar, just killing with the microphone in the stand Oh man. Joey Diaz Joey Diaz keeps the fucking mike in the stand and he makes me laugh harder than any fucking human being that's ever lived. that So I'm gonna go I'm gonna finished pa, then I'm going go to Ryine. So what did he do though So I'm in the green room And at the old imppro where they had a downstairs you would come through the it used to be a rain forst c. Yeah. So It was spell binders at first and then it changed. So I'm sitting in the green room and like it's a main part and it's a smaller part He walked into the small park and said, Hey go count the room count the room work here like that I. Yeah. All right. And he walked out And then he came back like maybe twenty five minutes later Yeah tell you and your little white friend that it's packed out there and I want my bonus Like what white train? What do what are he you talking about? Raymond Cook is the manager of the club design. He was talking about Raymond And I was like Pul, I don't count the room. I'm the feuture. Why would I be counting the fucking room? like And then he says something else negative to me. and I'm like, your pal If you say something else To me, I'm gonna kick your away, Pal My work What is wrong with you? So I called DL, I'm like, yo, I'm about to fucking beat up pony. He's like You can't beat up Pulmononey.'s legend. I'm. It's like even if you beat him up, you're still not going to win. It's like it's going to be a l. So I'm like, o, so then another time Oh, and then late on that that same weekend He had this lady with him and she was sitting at the top And I was sitting up there and she got up and she left her purse. So I didn't want to leave and leave the lady's pur there. So I grabbed strabbed and I got the purse like this. I came in and I'm like, Hey, man, you love your person. Paul turned on What are you doing with her purse? I say she left it And I then with The only thing in my head is deal, you cannot up Paul Ment. So I just walked out I'm like, I'm gonna fuck Paul up. What year was this? This is like three years before he died And this was the this is the old improv. This is what I'd heard just for clarity. He was struggling in the last years of his life So you probably didn't get the best version of Paul Mooney So then we we here Nston forming at the the, um theater that's right next to the paramount It' it's another theater that's connect to the Paramount Black heritage, the bllack art something booked both of us, not knowing we at odds. So I'm in my green room and the lady comes in, Hey she's very nice. Hey, Alie, Paul Money' next door, E wasan and you like to meet him. And I was like, No cool. And then She goes, Paul, Ali' next door. you know, I don't know if y'all want to meet each other. And Paul' like, No, I'm cool and I went up I'm in my grain room and The host is on stage and Paul is getting ready to go up And this was his apology. He walked by The room It came back like on, um Purple rain game back and lean in the room. Hi Ali. they. Oh fucking nuts, man. And Yeah, but that's you gotta take that you know, there's certain people are just eccentric. That's Pul. I mean, I wouldn't have counted the fucking room either. I would have been like that's not my job. Rron white. I was in Orlando Manager Orlando call me, say, Hey, Ali, I know you have a I know you have a feature at. Ron White would like to You know, feature for you And I was like, I don't I don't know person a around one And She wass like You don't know Ron White Im wait a min Like Ron White, Ron White? I think it's like some other guy who's using his name or something like that. hisis name happens to be Ron White too Like R, Rwayways like Yeah he want he want a feature for h say you, he called and asked Bye hell, yeah. So I call Marcus myo Mcus You're gonna go up and then you're going bring up Ron like, When was this? This was like maybe four years ago. That's crazy And Ron shows up and this huge tour bus walk into the cub and I'm like, who bus is this? Then I'm like, oh shit, it's Ron's brother got the Kila brand on it and all this. And he's in his bus. He's not even in the green room. Then then I get knock on the door and it's his manager. He's like, Hey, Ron, I wouldd like to know, can he come in the green room? I think come' in a dre ro So it comes in, he's like, yo, man, I just want you do I just want to do some time Ron went up there and was destroying this room. And I couldn't wait to get up because I wanted to talk about fucking wrong whiteest feature for me. I destroyed his room and R. He sat out and watched, he was like And my mind is, I'm still in alle that Ron White. wanted to fucking to work with I was like, Yeah thatit was crazy. That's so cool. Well you know, when he's working on new stuff, that's what he likes to do. He likes to go around and does a lot of sets. He's constantly active. He's at the club tonight. We're working tonight He's one of the main reasons I moved here Ron moved here before the pandemic. So I called him up in like twenty eighteen, I loved having him at the store. So he started coming to the store around twenty like fourteenish, something like that. oh my go, we had so much fun for years and years And he had a beautiful place up in Beverly Hills And then he just got sick because he's always traveling. He just got sick of the long flights and the traffic And I called him up. I go, whyy'd you move to Texas? It goes Austin's amazing. The food's fucking great. Everyone's nice. It's in the middle of the country. If I want to fly to Florida, it's quick. If I want to fly I like God damnit, can I live in Texas? And then the shitit the fan with COVID and I' was like, I to get the fuck out of California. This place sucks. They're telling me what to do. This is not what I signed up for. You tell me I can work. You tell me I have to wear a mask, fuck you I'm getting out of here. And when I came to Austin, it was one of the main reasons why I was willing to move there. I'm like, if we never do comedy again, at least I can hang out with Ron. That's that's amazing Yeah, and then everybody else came And then once, I mean, everybody says,, I got everybody to move here. Sorta, I got a lot of people to move here, but Ron got me to move here. That's the most important thing. Like Ron got me to move here. and then I realized how nice people are here and how disconnected they are from show business And I was like, oh, this is so refreshing. Everyone's just normal My neighbor's a normal guy Everyone's normal. They're regular people. just people living their lives Having a good time. You know, it's like, And for me, you know, because I love hunting. because everyone hunts out here. Yeah. it's like a normal pastime. I tell people I bow hunt in California like. Texasas, Texas, we have been a gym for a long time and we just let we let other people feel like they the Echelon o. Texas ruled forever. I mean you gott to think Kennison and Hicks, two of the greatest of all time came out of Houston. Yeah. And when I was coming here all the time, I knew it, right? So one of the things that was good about doing comedy is a lot of people that moved during the pandemic just wanted to get out of California, but they had no idea what the rest of the world was going to be like. They had never been to that They never been to Austin. I've been here at A couple dozen times, I knew I loved it So I was like, look, this will be all right. Like I'll be fine. Like it looks like I'm never doing comedy again. I was like, it looks like comedy's done. It looks like the they're going to fucking make us just stay indoors, especially in like blue cities. L like, this is crazy You have to have a Vax card to eat at a restaurant in New York City.m like, this is fucking bananas. None of this shit makes any sense I remember You guys came, Mothership was coming. The next thing I know Creeaking the cave was here. Crereeaking the cave was here first. Yeah, what I'm saying. I'm saying how I heard about it. I'm like, oh, yeah like creeaking the cave. I'm like, dangn okay Creeaking the cave is coming from New York And then mothership is here. then but they had rooms, you know, the main thing was, u It was the room that that was so hard to get in at first. in. ame of it Velva Rom? No, no, it was the actual comomedy club. Cap City? Cap City. Yes. Cap City. That place was always packed. Yeah, you know. I almost bought that place Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, I almost bought that whole mall, but the guy I was trying to sell it to me wanted way more than it was worth And then he got roped up in some FBI investigation. I was told While it was going on and he was being investigated and I was like, oh Okay, and then you w up getting arrested and That building was for sale. The whole thing was for sale. and I went in there, I thought about how many shows I'd been there, how many shows I'd seen there, how many shows I'd performed there over there I'm I could own this place. Oh my go. Cap City was the first place Oh that I did on the road with DL. That was a great club You know, fucking great club, perfect club. That place was amazing. Such a fun place to work. I think that people don't didn't realize how the rich history of Houston, Dallas, Austin. Lap stop. San Antonio bro Lap stop in Houston in River Oaks. onene of the greatest clubs of all time.. someomebody told me that that building still exists like that So it's still set up like that. There's nothing in it. Is that true? Yeah nothing in it though. But it's still the same room shhip Houston That's so We see if there's another city that could support like a large group of talented up and comers. Houston's one of them Yeah, so, you know, we have u Seeker group there, we have, um They had the other cap city that was upstairs. Remember they opened up the second one? They closed that one and the lap another to my lap. No, the cap caps they had another Oh, I'm sorry. Lap stop. Yeah. Lft stop. Lap. This was the last spot Oh they No, no, they have that already. That already existed. No the last spot had went upstairs own wall. They had my I thought there was Lugh stop. I thought it was the same group that no the same group that owned the laugh stop in River Oaks The Lgh spot was another place. I knew that because When I was working at the lgh stop, Ralphie May was working at the last spot. we got together we're hanging out and eat dinner But that was That was that was the old spot. Then there was the other laugh stop that they put upstairs. It was a new, but it didn't last. It was only for Aud of years. Yeah't I didn't go to that. It was a good spot. Yeah. And then it went under Yes. Yeah. Arish Sapfir did it with a Hitler mustouache once. He trimmed his muststache to look like Adolf Hitler. All right, A he is. Ari is by far the craziest person that I know. Like I thought my uncle Mac was the craziest person and then I then I met Ari. I'm like. This is the craziest person that I know Yeah he's awesome. Yeah and He just moved to England. A'm my brother gonna stab you He moved to England. they will fucking stab you. They stab people there.t don't get stabbed A is But he's such a cool dude, but he's fucking nut. I want to go see him Creek in the cave when he getting ready to film it special. I like yo, A is so A is so crazy. If you just if people took time, just go through the mini looks of R Shapir on internet. The one that killed me was the half he was just bald on one side then on the other. I was like yo, is he doing two face It is insane. He a do face for Batman. Yeah he's out of his mind But that's really who he is, you know, he's not trying. Yeah, he's not trying. He's not trying He's out of his mind iac. compleplete maniac. When he told B when I heard about him tearing a Bird's check It was like twenty five thousand dollars. He' like, you just made twenty five thousand. He just tore a checkup and like, they wrrouot you another one. I'm like arere you insane? It' like he's the crazest person, but he's fun. I've had some great conversations on the phone with him and he's just and was Very fucking smart dude. I was very very smart. hond when he called me to do his last, the endless, you know, I was like That's cool to say because that's where that's a pivoting point, a major point in my career when I did this iss not happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great showm man. It was a great idea. I remember when he started doing it. He started doing it at the lab at the improv So do you remember the lab? Yeah? Another little room. Coolitty room, cool little room Um they should have never got rid of that room. They They changed that place and they fucked it up In my opinion, That's the room, the main room still awesome But the lab used to be in the back. And it was like there wasn't a big bar there. I think it's still there. different Yeah D co. last time I was did Don cold. Yeah, but it's different. It's not the same setup. It used to be you went through a door and it was like another small room And in that small room, it was separated from the front door They moved the front door and now everybody went into through the parking lot. Right? And so they went into the lab through the parking lot. So the The front door was back there that now. and when you would open it, it was all this noise from the street and they had a curtain to block off the noise. and you'd hear people they were like right next to your stage where they were buying tickets. It was annoying. And then there was the bar, which is right there. It's still a cool little small room once everybody settles in But the original setup was way better And Ari started doing it there and I was like, what are you doing And he's like I'm going gonna do a storyteller show. I was like, What is that? That's what I thought. I was like, whyy are you doing that? And then he said, Well, it really helps you without like having to have like punchlines and setups and have everything really tight You could find the beats in a store and it' like, o A actually, that's brilli fuck'sart. It's a good alternative sort of way to develop bits You know, you develop bits by working it out but into a more loose format of telling a story. And I didn't even know that that was the premise behind it because when I got it Oh. It wass like it's going, he tell a true story And I was like, okay, cool, that's my That's my thing. R. You know, and I had, um just won Comedy Central's comic to Watch in like twenty thirteen. So you get a package, you get a album, you get a half hour and You get the chance to go on one of the shows that's already on Comedy Central So they was pitching me at the Adam Divine show and I was like, And It was another show. I was like, No, I'm cool. So every show that they would say that they wanted to be to go I was like Not it really my thing So then chase D Russo young comic called me and said, Hey, listen You might want to go on This is not happening I was like, what's that? He say is a show start on the internet? You know you I went on and I watched both I think both seasons of it on the internet. and I was like, yo, is this is the one. So I called Anne Harris that I was like, this is the show that I want to do. And R didn't know me. R is like I don't know him. but Eric Abrams is one of the co creators of the show. He's like I know him. so he's pretty good. You should bring him on. and Aready tell anybody. He's like, I didn't know what he was going to do. But all I know was a true all you had to do was tell a true story And I was like, perfect. Eric thought that I was gonna do the story that I did on the second time that I was on black And I'm like When I got there, I was listening to people's stories I was like secondecond story is Mitchell It's like when I was going to kill a CEO And I wasm like, No, I should do a lighter one And then I did the prison ride, which is affectionately known as Mexican G on boots And our is like, best fucking story I ever heard.m like me telling them the story about a riot, a prison riot. you know and I telling them what happened And I only did like sixteen minutes or whatate have. that was a whole That was a whole ordeal. L it wasn't a sixteen minute ride. It was like nine hours. likeike the whole thing is like nine hour I only told beginning part of it which was You know, pretty cool. You know what happened now Aready lost the show, right? Yeah And so that So when the show came back, it was with Roy Woods They call me to do it and The loyal spirit in me H called Ari first I was like, hey, they want me to do this show. I'm really not fucking with it hesy No, no I was like, what? He's like, I heard about all the stuff. He's like, manan, do it. Eric Eric is still shooting it. He was saying, so you should do it because we wanted you to be the host, but they didn't they didn't want you. to do it. you know, they got Roy, which is cool. I don't think they wanted anybody affiliated with Ari to do it They would punish an Ary. So when they tell people why So for people that don't know, they already got a deal He got an offer to do a Netflix special and he wanted to do it. And they wanted him to do the special on Comedy Central And he said, Well, I don't have to. It's sign in my contract. They said, Well, if you don't do it, we're going to cancel your show And he was like, why I can't believe you cant do that. And that ain't what you tell allry? Nope. So we were trying to figure it out I offered the hosted for free I said, I will come in and host it. I'd already done it That's all coming, I'll host it for no money I go because He wanted to make sure that everybody was paid. He was going to take out a loan. And Ari was going to pay all the grips, all the camera people because they, you know, these people, they chart out their year. They're like, oh, I'm doing this is not happening for the next six weeks and then I'm doing this for five weeks and that's their year And that's how they budget their life. And Ari decided that he was going to take out a loan to pay everybody And I'm like, wow I go this in M. go tell Comedy Central that I'll host it for free. They weren't interested They weren't interested in anybody affiliated with him. He tried to he offered up a bunch of other comics They weren't interested. So I was in that group of the bunch because I know it was you It was Joey Mm me B And They just got me to Once Ari told me it was cool, he wass like, man, do it. Yeah, Ari would never try to stop anybody from working. So what I what I went on and did in my protest Oh you know, you didn't want worry So What I did was told a story about Ari. I just told it like, okay, cool. like my story is mushroom story, which is an Ari. is I was second I thought I was, you know, second season I did the show, Ari gave me mushrooms. say And A I went through the whole thing of what happened when R gave me the mushroom. I ate the mushrooms. I didn't know if they were Mushrooms, mushrooms. I thought they were something else. and it was like out an eighth of mushrooms And it was a long day It was rude thing to not tell you to not eat all of them. And I remember Janice, Janice was my assistant and I remember I had to fly the next day and' I'm still gone. I'm out of my shit So I get to the airport and I call Janice. I said, Janice. People are going through this machine. And then I'm not seeing them anymore J' like he's nuts. He's going like and Jan said they probably go into various places. I was like, but I don't w want to go to Vars, I want to go to Houston. So then when I get up to the TSAA, I said, Hey I'm seeing a lot of people go through this machine and then I'm not seeing them anymore Where are they going the man head? various places. And I got out the line. I called Jan. I said, you are right. They are going to various. Jan's like, he's nuts. L he's losing it. I'm like, yo I was so toasted and just getting on the plane with still full of mushroom It was I just I wanted to just close my eyes, but the shit just wasn't working. It was like, I was out of it. I never Mushro was the crazy thing. crazy thing. And that same week Um, because I was there for a couple of days. Joy Diaz gave me a black star And I remember calling somebody he was like, yo Don't you eat that shit? You say if you wantanna lose it, don't you? the episode of I'm on Joy Diaz. This is back when I was smoking. I took an edible with the flying Jew and me and him It's like you literally see us. I was fine At first And then Joy's the only person that's in this studio that's still together. And you just slowly see us just melting. We both then I know I was speaking very good English at one point. then I was and he was like, Yeahah, Joy' like, No I understand. I don't understand the church of what's happening now had some of the greatest overdose on weed moments ever in the history of the internet. Just Lee, just seeing Lee Sayat just melting because can't keep his eyes open. just melting his chair. Y it' like at first I was like, youo, he's tripping. then I'm like This is not happen it to be like it was crazy. Joey Diaz doesn't give a fuck. And thencause I wan to see the devil. The other side of the story was another comic with me named Billy Serrez. He had taken some edibles, but he ain't on the show. So he's outside. He didn't just melt it outside Like he' just sitting on the ground outside the studio like, yo, Th those black stars are five hundred milligrams. Yo. that was Yeah. I saw Joe eat two of those ones I just took down two of them. I'm like, that is so crazy. That's so much. You know, Jamie doesn't feel it Edibles don't work on him Jamie's got some weird fucking biological condition. throw that and try it. Yeah, I'm not afraid. He doesn't doesn't give a fuck. He's not scared of edibles at all. I've done two different types of mushrooms. I didn't know that they were. It's like the ones where I was really on one. That's the on that R gave me, and then there's some other ones that made me very talkative Fine. G get me Drool on his stir. he's in another dimension right now. Oh He can't keep the headphones on. Hen't know what to do Joey's the best. They're back. They're doing it again. They back. They're back together again. Yeah, man. They're doing it Are they doing it out of New Jersey? Is that what they're doing Yeah He's the best. Yeah I remember I called Moses Malone for Joe because he's a big Moses Malone fan. Before Moses died, I called. He's like, you know Moses Malone?'s no fucking way you know Mosone. I'm like, Yeah, no fucking Mes. then Moses was Moses was nuts too. L Moses Malone was a fucking nut Have you heard about these new mushrooms that make you see the little tiny people? Oh no, no, I haven't talkive ones were. like I called a lot of people on my phone and everybody's same report was, you know, you call me like three in the morning you want to talk to me about my life? like And whichich ones are those? What did you take? It's not pilocybin. It's something different? Yeah, it's something different. It made be very t Dlay, I told Dlay about him. What that would be? comic name Dlay, I told him about him ' I called him and I talked to him for like hours. just about so then he end up taking the same mushrooms. He called me and I knew what it was. I was like, go ahead, just talk He was talking his ass off. I put the phone out and went to sleep, I woke up, he was still talking. I wasm like, yo, this shit is crazy. What is it? man, I gota Jimy put that into perplexity. I gotta call Put that into our AI sponsor, find out what mushrooms make you talkative. Yeah, I know who gave them to me, so I call her and ask, hey, it was somerooms that you gave me Becauseuse she went in bought night I was a fucking tugetive mess. I don't know what that is. I've never heard of that before. Most of the time when people take shrooms, they can't talk. It's like, No I was I was on one. crazy the one is. 'cause the ones that Ari gave me.ro in general. Huh Some people's response to it. Yeah, but it seems that there's different responses to different ones on the screen says what I just said.? I don't think there's enough research. perplexity to have aated answer. Right? How much research are they doing out there? Talkative social on magic mushrooms, but there's no specific mushroom reliably proven to make you talkative. All right, ask if there's a mushroom that makes you see little people I know this. I know, but I want to see what Pxity has to say about it. What does perplexity say? Ask it about, is there a mushroom that makes you see little people? Let's see if it really is up on its psychedelic science. repeat the articles I just pulled. I want to see what it says though It's just a question to see how it handles this Yes specific edible mushroom called Lan Moa U Asotica has been reported to cause very vivid hallucinations. You say hallucinations. Maybe they're really little people right there. of littleittle people when it's undercooked a phenomenon known as Liliputian hallucinations. Swif thing is how do you know it's a hallucination? Maybe you just now can see these things that people have been writing about for eons How ignorant are people? and how arrogant are we that we know everything that's going on all around us all the time? We don't. People have always thought gremlins were real and gnomes were real And fairies studying that since the sixties. Of course they have been. I'm studying it right now Study. Let's go study mushrooms My hand Yeah, they've been studying it, but like the real problem is there's got to be a bunch of I know for sure there's other strains that are much more potent because I know a guy who is a mushroom guy. He's like deep in the world of mushrooms. And he was explaining to me that there's one that's like ten X stronger and there's one there's new ones that they found. I think they found a new one I want to say in China, they found a new hallucinogenic mushroom But this one, this Lilipushian one is weird because it's not pilocybus. It's not way it's cooked. This has something to do withing it. Yeah yeah. I' suppos to eat ' them at all. No, it's That I think this might be the Chinese one Be I think it's a is it? Yeah, okay. So this is I conflated the ch. So theyat in. If you cook it and you do a real good job cooking it, you don't trip. But apparently some people have not cooked it and eaten it and go, o, wait a minute, what are we cooking out of this When you're you might be cooking out whatever the mushroom is giving you to let you see the spirit world or see the fairy world or the gnome world or Whatever it is. restaur you can get it in restaurants Let's go. I'd be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Undercook my. J justust put it on some salad dressing. S that shut out. Let's go. I don't have unfortunately, I don't have a problem with mushrooms. I think that and I just like being Unfortunately, what do you mean? Beause you know, some people like you shouldn't be on there like I don't have a problem with mushrooms, especially if I'm in a in a safe environment But Being at the lows on mushrooms, that's not the best place to be. L Also trying to fight it. if you fight it, you're fucked If if you if you start going and you start No, I don't like this. L u oh and it's going to get dark on you. They' going like I've tried to wrestle with it. I've had them in chocolate like little chocolate squares and it's been It's been a time. I don't it's been of time, but sometimes it can get r too see little people Definitely wna be somewhere What I don't I just need to be somewhere safe. Brian Simpson has a ly story about someone gave him a mushroom chocolate bar and he put it in his freezer and forgot Forgot that was a mushroom bar and they just ate the whole thing and just went to Pluto He's like Dr. Manhattan sitting on Mars, fucking Lotus position. This one's kind of strange. It says doesn't matter who you are or what you do, you're going to have the same experience as everybody else has done it. Okay At that point in time, when do we start to say, maybe there's something in this substance, this compound, this molecule that lets you interact with something that's real, that's around you. If it's repeatable over and over and over again, if all these people see the same thing over and over and over again and people have been writing about it since the beginning of time, they've been writing about elves and fairies and gnomes and magic people in the woods What do you think they were doing? They were probably eating these fucking' mushrooms This is show that I watch that I still don't know this show is about But I've watched I'm on season number four And I have no idea what What chose it? It's called from. I've been watching it. I love that show. I'm in the middle of season four right now. And so you know he's taking mushroom. The one guy did. Yeah. spoiler No, but you knowil But you know al rightready. spoiler. I know, but the people that are listening don't know hy the't's still going be fantastic. Don't fuck this up It's good. I saw M mo One of these new shows that's been talk about's getting moved No, no, no, that's still on Paramount Yeah I think it's MGM. I think it's MGM Yo G fucking show. Yeah. veryery original. I still people Rome is officially on Netflix. There it is. Oh wait a minute, hold on. Maybe it's on Netflix as well. Yeah, that's ye. That's all I was saying. Oh, that's what it. It came on on epics and then But you watched all these seasons. good show, but you have no idea what There's no rules It's and so I called my director and I said, Hey, I want to make a show that is about whatever we doing And he's like, well, give me an example. I say Watch Fro Like I've watched all of I cannot tell you this show is about It's like like I don know people do it For people that don't know that want to watch it. It's people are trapped in this town They all the same circumstance. There's a down tree in the road. They can't go further. So they back they turn around and they find themselves in a loop that keeps leading them through a to over and over and over and over again. and no one in the town can escape And at nighttime, monsters come out and they look like people. They look like a mailman. They look veryormal. Scary ass milkman. Oh It looks like that milkman is insane. That old lady that knocks in the window. Oh terrifying It's a terrifying show. It gives me anxiety and I know it's all fake Anthon. It's like it's a crazy S and Season four is even more bizarre Yeah by thing that I'd be thinking I was like, yo, I think this is what it is and then it don't it doesn't be that, but then it come and like see And but I'm like, see what? Like what am I likeike I don't know the show was going. They don't know no one knows where it's going. But it's like lost. The same people that made Lost made that show Yeah. That's why it has that same sort of feel. like crazy doesn't make not not you can't predict what's going to happen. Nthing makes sense And very entertaining. Lloyd tickles the shit out. Lloyd is mad about it. E got. like but it's so it's a crazy c but it's very interesting. I don't miss it. I love it. Yeah. I've been binging it. so I started I guess me and my wife started about a month ago or so and we burned through the first three seasons And now we're into the fourth Yeah, it's good. And I think the next season is coming out in twenty twenty seven. but I don't really how I think the next season is the last season. unless they decide to keep it going It's the finalge that they just announced that it's going be the last And Mbe maybe when that money comes wr then. But the thing about this kind of show is you could do whatever you want. L Yeah you go back in time. you could do wild shit. like I don't want to give anything away, but there's no rules There's you can make anything happen. You can make anything It's a very strange show. it's Very entertaining. Oh man, it's a very entertaining show But if you want to just sit at home and watch shit and not do anything Man, you never picked a better time to be alive You could waste your whole life just staring at a screen. Yeah like when I ask people, ' my palette for what I take in is different than a lot of people you and I turn people onto a show like when I turn my boy on Pinky Binders. I was like Y Pinky Blinders is a great show. I was like, yo, you got to watch Pinky B. He called me and was like, yo, this is a greatraz show. And I remember my boy D Lay got so invested in what was the first show the motorcycle show that I turned him on to. I know what you're talking about I never watched it What does that show? That motorcycle show that everybody liked You don't talk about anarchy? That's it. Sonons of anarchy. I turned them on the sons of anarchy And it's a person on there that you kind of get invested in. And I remember he called me. and said so the about him. And I was like Yo, who? Like who what what you say I'm putting on my shoes and then I notice Are you talking about the person on Sundo? He said, Yeahah, that's fucked up what they did I was like, Yo, you' a crazy man. he's like, no, I'm so invested. Andight I was like, Yo man, you are a wow person. You know, sonss the anarchy, pinky blinders Like, I was big on Yellowstone. And now the two spin offs of Yellowstone Marshalls and the Dutton ranch. I can't not watch it. like is it's some good shows out there and I just can't watch the typical stuff. I gott to watch something that has a little more to it then normal people would watch because I like to see normal people in shows, like something I can relate to the Dutt Ranch, you know, being Texas This is I don't How ranchy is, this is how I always experienced how ranching goes with cows and and how you keep your land and all these different fights that people have over land. I'm like It it is pretty interesting. It's very interesting Yeah that Taylor Sheridan is a friend of mine. guy made that He's on here the other day U talking about it, but the other show that I love is Landman. sameame kind of deal It's all about the oil industry. Yeah You just realize like, oh, Jesus, is this how all this works? Yeah, it's other things happening in life and it's way more notorious people then a drug dealing show This is Man, crude oil is a business. So it's such a big business. Of course, you're gonna get devious shit G you gk get shit happening. do The real world of oil must be nuts. It must be nuts. I mean, that's why we're in war right now and you have to be Ruthless you know, with oil. Like that's a big thing. And I don't understand fake meat. L why would people be giving somebody fake meat Well because they make money selling freak meat That's why was. I mean, that's that's what a lot of people were trying to push while they're saying that cows are bad cows the methane the environment man Bullshit. all they're doing is trying to someone is pushing this idea that we need to stop eating meat because they're profiting off of us not eating meat. That's what it is tall it is It's not bad for you. It's good for you. You need it protein,s super healthy, onene of the best foods in the world for you There's just a bunch of horssehit out there saying that we need to eat less meat for the environment We need to figure out how to not pollute That's for sure. but Regenerative farms aren't polluting your full shit It's not true You know, if you want to say we need to stop doing factory farming, okay, maybe. Yeah, that's probably a good thing to do. But you need to figure out how to feed all these fucking people You've developed a system that's entirely reliant on massive amounts of animals moving through. The amount of chickens that people eat in America every day is crazy. Yeah. It's cool. What are the amount of chickens that get consumed in America every day? Let's guess twenty million, att least At least I want to say fifty million. fifty million chickens a day. How many million chickens a day get killed Oh, okay, how many did we eat? How many millions of chickens do we eat every day in America Becauseuse I know I can account for three in my house twenty two million chickens every day, son That's nut That is a crazy amount. That's way bigger than the entire residence of Los Angeles If every person was a chicken E we eat that amount in this country every day. That's crazy. In my home alone We roasting chicken If we going to get a roast chick, we're going to get three of them because it's going I didn't even know that I could eat a whole chicken by myself until I did it It's like, yo, man.' just um Muslim Um grocery store they sell them in there it's already roasted and you get two garlic sauces with each chicken And once you dip a piece of that chicken and that gar, it's not going survive. L it's like I bought three of them because I know if two are gonna make it home, I have to eat this one by myself. and they put on a piece of pita bread. It's already roasted and It's insane that I would eat a whole chicken by myself Estimates suggest twenty four to twenty six million chickens are killed every day in the United States for meat So if you don't want factory farming, you got to figure out a solution where you can get twenty six million chickens a day or You convince people they need to stop eating meat if we look at like, Let' say if I'm looking at a show Um game with. House dragons When I would see them sit down to eat, it was a lot of meat on that table. Yeah. V variations of meat. It's a whole they I've never seen the king sit down. It wasn't a whole entire pig on the table And then if you Most people haven't bought a lamb. and you think that A lamb is enough Bans O what you on who's there. If you if we if it's it And it's after the fast. And you put a lamb on a spill and all these Muslim families come your house deaths. That's not you need another lamb You You need two lambs, like whole lambs. like it man it Meat is delicious It's great for you too. Don't let anybody tell you anything different. they can, but I'm not really listening. Like when somebody when somebody tell me about a vegan situation, I'll listen to you but none of it is going it's like, you know, I say something comes in one a't go out the other. It's not even going in here. It's It's like, I've already made my decision. Okaykay, I feelar you. But I'm not really listening to you. I'm eating the lamb. goo, I'm eating it. Life eats life. It's just the factory farming thing is the uncomfortable part That's the gross part And if you just were on a ranch, it's natural If you want to get overtaken Just let the animals just do their thing. Chocolate and see how many see, seeee, don't you see a I am legend taught you that.. It' like, yo, how many antlers ran through a place with a stampede? it's so even like with the thing that happens in the ocean, sardines, right So mass all these mass sardines come one spot. then the whales come first Then the sharks come And then then we still get sardines The Oies This ecosystem is eating. we still get sardines you're not running out of natural for if you let everything do it do its thing You know, do you know how many jellyfish it is? someomebody should start eating them man because that is a crazy jellyfish can mob out L like mob out. And they can kill you. And they can kill you. Yeah. Somebody eatem. Somet eats them. You can eat them at Chinese restaurants. I've had jellyfish before W it good? I don't remember it being good I don't remember where I ate it, but I remember someone cooked a specific type of jellyfish. and I was like, okay. So I didn't even know you could cook that. In Texas and look jellyfish are edible out in Texas and Louisiana The amount of crawfish that we eat. in two months, It's literally insane. Mag if they hidd Iagine crawfish would be You could imagine I know I can account for at least fifty pounds by myself. Like I L at how many crawfish there would be if weren't eating them Like when I was a kid, I grew up in Florida for a while. We lived in Florida in Gainesville. and there was alleg. They' Florida. But they were protected Back then, the alligades were protected. Like the Everglades. Well, it wasn't the eververglades quite here. Okay, hold on. Edible jetlyfish. Best known edible species in use in Asian cuisine Oh boy, try and say that word Robil Lima. Escalentum, often referred to as the Japanese edible jellyfish. That's a lot easier. O Fame jellyfish Yeah, so there's a few different species of jellyfish Anyway, my point was when I was a kid, alligators were protected and they were at this lake and you could see them and people would throw marshmallows in the water and the alligators would eat them. And then now Theres T many There's so many alligators there now, like they can't get rid of them. They're They're in every body of water everywhere you go, those alligators Yeah, The entire Everglades filled with alligators. golf courses filled with alligators. I remember when they when they the kid got eaten Oh, Disney World? Yeah. And I'm like, y'all, that's insanity I don't trust a puddle of water in Florida. No. Ive It could be a puddle. I'm like' allgated there. It's what they what they removed? four hundred some odd. out of games from Disney world. Oh, they remove them all the time. They have to check every day. used to go back there and make sure that there's no alligators. It's like a huge number that. It's a huge number.'s maybe twenty four this year, twenty forty or something this year But it's four hundred or something a wow. likeike that's insane. You know, Disney World has a bass fish in lake You can go bass fishing at Disney World There's like a little trip that you take. You go there. fourour hundred and fourteen alligators removed from Disney World since Tddler's death ten years ago. monster span. they' legit monsters. I remember when I was in Guam I was in Guam doing a show And I think the military moved there and it was a bird they was trying to protect And so they killed all these snakes And this is how when you change the ecosystem to something, something happens So The snakes Not only were they eating that bird They were eating and controlling the population So when they got rid of the snake comoming back from the show And it's like it's literally Hundreds of thousands. of fowers that come out at night everywhere. It's like you just see ' them flat in the street with you because you can't not You can't miss them. It was hundreds of thousands of frogs on Gam And I was like, yo, man, they fuck up everything. They gott to do something, man People metal. Yeah, they gotta bring the snake back Yeah, gotta bring the snake stop stop Stop your bullshit People just medle I mean, there's so many countries that are infested with animals that people brought in to kill other animals You know, like Australia is a giant feral cat problem. They brought in feral cats, I think to kill it Forget what species, I think it was a toad they were trying to kill off. My neighborhood has a goddamn cat problem. my neighborhood is like one cat has some babies and My family had something to do with it. We fed, we fed the cat and then Of course Yeah Of course you want to be nice. Meanwhile, they're killing billions of birds every year in this country. I love Cats th. I love cats too but they kill billions. House cats kill billions of birds and mammals in this country every year If you you don't have a bug problem if you have a cat in your house because we you know, we had these water bugs, they call them cockroaches But I've watched before I left, the cat that just outside, he was just slapping one around. It's like five of them dead out there. He's just slapping one around, like just toying with him. But I don't mind because then they never make it into my house It's like cat eye. I know about the four pest campaign that happened in China What is that What they do explains it to you in this these little for Under Mao aimed at exterminating rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows as a part of the Great Leap forward. It was framed as a public hygiene and agricultural protection drive meant to reduce disease and protect grain from being eaten or contaminated. Mass mobilization methods included trapping and poisoning rats, swatting flies, mosquitoes and organized efforts to scare and kill sparrows So it's like before you get to the end here, they had one little problem. so they introduced something else to fix that problem. that created a new problem. so they introduced something else to fix that problem. Yeah ended here with Tens of millions of people dying from a famine because they didn't have the natural ecosystem of this is craz. So Sarrows were targeted because they ate grain seeds, but they also consumed large numbers of crop eating insects. Their near extinction caused an ecological imbalance, leading to insect population booms, lower crop yields, and contributing to Chinese famine, the great Chinese famine, which tens of millions died. Wow. I got to give something to get something. Yeah, man, don't think you're smarter than nature, you dumb fuck You gott to give something to gets it There's a balance out there and we don't totally understand that balance. What's this fish that we have now Asian carp The one that's infested, all the different lakes and then there's a snake head, that's another one. Then the jo that torpedoes up No that's the Asian carp. Yeah. They fly through the air when you're in a boat. They just, for whatever reason, when you're in a boat, they just try to throw themselves onto the boat. L G me the fuck out of this lake. There's so many of them And they don't have a natural predator and they bring them into places sometimes to clean up the algae. And then all of a sudden now you have a carp problem. now the carp eat all the algae. They eat everything where this' like your whole lake looks like a swimming pool. There's no algae left. Look at these fucking things. That is Crazy That's the Illinois River I mean, this is just hundreds of fish just flying through the air everywhere they go L how nuts is that? You ever see people they shoot them with bows and arrows So wait from them hop up in the air they try to catch them in the air with a bow and arrow with the string on it B. Yeah Yeah, there's a bunch people do that That's a very popular sport. Is this fish edible? I've never heard of anybody. I know people eat regular carp. I don't know if As is Asian carp edible There you go It's lean and nutritious. So I would just have a net rolling behind me. Gayfish, there you go Don't you guys need product There you go. getet out there with bows and arrows and get it done. How many crawlfish does Texas and Louisiana consume in crawfish seies. That's a good question. I guess you would have to do it in pounds, right? Would you do it in pounds or millions of actual crawfish? Because they they don't measure them in individuals. They may by weight, right they go by weight. How many pounds of crawfish do you think Texas, just say Texas and Louisiana in a year fifty million It did give me ninety percent of the farm crawfish comes from Louisiana. Yeah cent How many pounds How many pounds does I know I went way too high. How many pounds does Texas and Louisiana consume in a year I'm gonna say two million of about Really? twowo million pounds a lot. It's fucking way more than that. What is it? What is it seventy percent of the consumed amount is eaten in Louisiana and the total is upwards of one hundred fifty million pounds one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty million annually Whoa. Yeah. Just in Louisiana. seventy percent, which is almost a hundred million pounds of that is just in Louisiana No it's c. Between crawfish boils and crawfish egg toouffet, that is fucking delicious. That's delicious.. That is a crazy thing. This doesn't have It's just tens of millions. All all we need. we've got to Louisiana. I thought they would be to double what the whole country at That crazy. Like Maryland actually thinks that they Big on cryp And and we'd just be checking out here like, okay ' no I think we ship crap to them. The Chesapeake Bay cannot outdo the gulf of Mexico. We Gulf of America now, by the way. It is we still swet name. We still G You know, I don't think Mexico agreed.'s like no, he's like, I don't think they did either. They's like, no, you know, this is not the Gf of America. like we're not seeing it. That's hilarious Well hey brother, it's great to talk to you again as always,s fun. M. Very good to do. Thank you. more often. Man, I'm here. Okay, let's do it. It's always fun. Yeah Tell everybody where they want if they want to consume all your specials, all of it's on YouTube. Is it All of it on YouTube, or you can go to Aliedk. com the new special out my father is getting busy right now. It is u It's a great this is a great special It really Wh did you record this? That was in Detroit Beautiful. Like I said, I love what you do. I love the fact that you're so prolific and you know that you've built this whole thing just on hard work. So congratulations. Appreciate you. Thank you B. It was good see